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DCAU Spotlight: Superman the Animated Series

About this Episode
I don't know what to say. The monkeys won't do.
And I also don't know what to say about those
crazy producers from the geek cop radio network.
They're driving me crazy. Hello and welcome to
the 94th episode of ToonCast, brought to you
by the GeekCast Radio Network. I am your host,
JFJ and Mike, and today I'm joined by Nightwing.
Hello, sir. Hello. How are you? I'm great. That's
good, that's good. Today we are going to be continuing
the DC Animated Universe spotlight with Superman
the Animated Series. And before we get into the
show, I just... I want to not really start the
show on a sad note or anything, but it was today,
wasn't it, that it happened? Today or yesterday,
one of those two. It happened yesterday, actually.
I thought it was today. Yeah, no, it was yesterday.
Yeah, it was yesterday. Sorry about that, folks.
We are recording this Wednesday night. I almost
said July. Why the hell did I almost say July?
Wednesday night, February 23rd, 2011. On the
22nd of 2011, February 22nd, 2011, Dwayne McDuffie
passed away. I believe it was due to surgical
complications. He was having some surgery done.
Unfortunately, he passed away. And for those
who don't know, Dwayne McDuffie was the co -creator
of Milestone Comics. He was a co -creator of
Static or The Show. Yeah, something like that.
Yeah, he was one of the main heads on Static
Shock. He also wrote numerous Justice League
and Justice League Unlimited episodes. He rewrote...
Justice League Worlds Collide to be what Justice
League Crisis Unto Earth is for the DC Universe
animated original movies. So hereforth, all of
the DCAU spotlights on ToonCast will be dedicated
to Dwayne's memory as well as Boyd Kirkland's
memory because Boyd Kirkland was a director over
on Batman the Animated Series. He had passed
away a couple of weeks ago. So all of the DCAU
Spotlight episodes here on ToonCast are dedicated
to their memory. It was just shocking to me when
I heard this news. I was like, what, really?
Yeah, it's so weird. He was doing interviews
for All -Star Superman. He was doing all the
press stuff for it, yeah. Yeah, and people were
saying that he seemed perfectly healthy and energetic,
and all of a sudden... Bam, out of nowhere, he's
dead, and that's, yeah, it's terrible. Yeah,
it's so very, very terrible. Although, you know,
of all notes to go out on, All -Star Superman
is a great one. I mean, that is a great movie.
Yeah, I haven't had a chance to catch it yet.
Yeah, it's phenomenal. Maybe the best of them
so far. It's really great. Yeah, I haven't had
a chance to catch it yet, and one of the things
that, you know, Most people make their first
impressions off of trailers or special – especially
with the DC Universe animated films, they usually
show off a trailer or a behind -the -scenes feature
on the previous film, which is what they did
with Superman and Batman Apocalypse. They had
shown the little preview for All -Star Superman.
I wasn't really thrilled with the voice cast
choices, specifically Superman's. I can't see
James Denton. a .k .a. Mike from Desperate Housewives,
as Superman. I just can't hear that. While I
do agree that Anthony LaPaglia as Lex Luthor,
that's just amazing casting. But, you know, as
far as my final judgment, whether I'm going to
like All -Star Superman or not, I'm going to
have to wait until I actually see it because
I haven't had a chance to see it yet. Well, you
know, on the note of James Denton, he actually
is very, very good. I was surprised. I mean,
in the comic, All -Star Superman, Superman is
a little bit, he seems a bit aloof and a little
bit detached, not very humble, which I kind of
hated. But in this story, he feels very down
to earth, like a very personable guy. He definitely
is Superman. I mean, you know, he's not like
Tim Daly. He doesn't sound like the same, but
yeah, he definitely is great. All the voice cast,
they're all really great. Lois Lane, Christina
Hendricks did a great job. She's the first Lois
Lane, I think, where she really is attractive.
She's not just funny. She's not just, you know,
hot to look at as an actress. No, she actually
really does, you know, you can understand why
Superman is attracted to her. You mean the Lois
Lane character or Christina Hendricks herself?
Both. Okay, well, I would argue with you that
Dana Delaney is also very hot. Okay, no, no.
Okay, yes, yes. I would argue that her main asset,
well, we'll get into this later, but is that
she's more... quick -witted and funny and smart.
She's perfect as Lois Lane. I think Christina
Hendricks is a little more, we'll say, attractive.
And again, it goes to people's tastes, and that's
fine. But as far as everyone that has voiced
Lois in the DC Universe movies, I would probably
agree with you on Christina Hendricks' voicing
her. But... Dana Delaney wins out overall for
me. Oh, absolutely. I totally agree. She is the
perfect Lois Lane, I think. Even though Christina
Hendricks is a little bit hotter, I guess. No,
Dana Delaney is absolutely the definitive Lois
Lane. Yes, she is. And for those of you not figuring
it out by now, today we are talking about Superman,
the animated series. Woo! Yes, often shortened
to Superman TAS or STAS, as most of us DCAU fanatics
shorten it that much. It's an American animated
television series starring DC Comics flagship
character Superman. The series was produced by
Warner Bros. Animation and aired on the WB from
September 6, 1996 to February 12, 2000. Warner
Bros. applied the same more modern, more serious
animated treatment to DC Comics' flagship character
in the same way that they had successfully produced
Batman in the animated series. As with the first
season of Batman TIS, the main opening title
sequence of Superman TIS had no actual title.
The series was met with high praise from both
critics and fans, claiming it to be the most
faithful adaptation of Superman to date, and
even nominated for an Emmy. Slightly to moderately
edited reruns were aired on Toon Disney and are
currently shown on Disney XD. So what are your
general memories of Superman the Animated Series,
sir? Let's see. My first ever Superman that I
ever saw was actually the Dean Cain, Terry Hatcher,
Lois and Clark series, the live -action one.
But, you know, this was very similar in that
it was also based off the post -crisis reboot
of Superman, where he was more down -to -earth,
a little bit more personal, less godlike. Yeah,
you know, when I was seven years old, I first
saw this show, and I thought, whoa, okay, this
is awesome. Yeah, I started watching it. I watched
every episode as a kid. As soon as it came out,
I watched it every day I possibly could. I think
this is probably the definitive, well, this is
the best on -screen version of the Superman universe.
Just in terms of the way it portrays Metropolis
and all the characters and everything and their
relationships, I think this really is the definitive
version. And for me, it's by far the definitive
version. This is, I think, my Superman. This
is the one that I always think of when I think
of the character. There's other ones that have
other attributes that I think maybe are a little
bit better here and there, but overall, this
is my personal Superman. For me, I... I told
the story last episode about when Batman the
Animated Series was on television back in the
90s that my stepmother told me that I was not
allowed to watch it because it was too old. Oh,
yeah. And for me, I think I completely missed
on Superman. I think I may have caught one episode
as a 16, 17 -year -old kid because it ran from
1996 to 2000. I may have caught one or two episodes,
but I never actually caught the entire series
run. And then our next week's episode, Batman
Beyond, I caught an episode of that and I was
hooked. Of course, I'll tell that story next
week. But yeah, as a 16, 17 -year -old kid, I
don't ever remember watching Superman. But I
think by the time I was 24, 25, 26, somewhere
around there. I don't remember. A few years ago,
about five, six years ago, I came around to it
and absolutely love it. There are a few episodes
that aren't that great, but the overall feel
of the show, the overall character design, the
voice acting is just amazing. Yeah, I actually
have the opposite story with... batman superman
because i actually was too young at the time
to watch batman when it was first running so
i only caught uh the new batman adventures that
you know the redesign and i caught a bit of the
older series i think i saw one episode of batman
the animated series i saw robin's reckoning part
one i didn't get to see part two for another
like two or three years that was terrible but
yeah so i had the exact opposite experience where
i missed most of batman tas until And then actually
when I was about nine, my mom said I couldn't
watch Batman or Superman because it was too violent.
So I was like, no! And that ruined the rest of
my childhood. But then, yeah, when I was older,
I went back and I got the DVDs and I love them.
So, yeah. Yeah. Jerrica in the chat was saying
something about Space Ghost hosting a marathon
on WB or Cartoon Network when they did a Superman
-Batman marathon. Yeah. They've done stuff like
that before when it's been in syndication. I
don't know how qualified Space Ghost is to host
a Batman and Superman marathon. So getting into
the characters and voice actors. Much like the
BTAS episode, I'm going to go down the line of
the actual voice actors and then the characters.
and I'm going to try to sound less shocked, because
apparently Glade Packer said I sounded too shocked
when I was reading through some of the BTAS stuff.
Really, the only one that really shocked me from
BTAS, because I never knew it, was the fact that
Helen Slater, a .k .a. Supergirl, voiced Talia
al Ghul. Yeah, I didn't know that either. I didn't
know that at all. That was the only one that
really shocked me out of the BTAS list. As far
as the actors, you've got Tim Daly as Superman,
Michael Ironside, who is Darkseid. And it is
Darkseid, not Seed, people. It's Darkseid. It's
even spelled side. If you don't know that, you
just don't know English. Sorry. Yeah. Well, it's
spelled S -E -I and not S -I. Yeah, that's what
it means. Yeah, it's just, yeah. Clancy Brown
as Lex Luthor, as we said before. Dana Delaney
as Lois Lane. David Kaufman as James Jimmy Olsen.
Corey Burton as Brainiac. Gilbert Gottfried as...
Oh, God, I know I'm going to fuck this up. Okay,
as Mr. Mxyzptlk. I think I got that right. In
the comics, I believe it's pronounced Mxyzptlk.
But in the animated series, it's mix, yes, spit,
lick. It's like four different words. He spells
it out in the show. Yeah. Yeah. So it's a little
bit different. Yeah, and then you have Joseph
Bologna. I don't know. I don't mean to butcher
the guy's last name, but it's baloney is the
way it looks like. As SCU Lieutenant Dan Turpin.
Again, George DeSunza, who I cannot pronounce
his last name to save my life, was Perry White.
Lisa Edelston was Mercy Graves. Lauren Tom was
Angela Chen. Mike Farrell was Jonathan Kent.
Shelly Fabrez was Martha Kent. Jolie Fisher was
Lana Lang. Victor Brandt was Professor Emile
Hamilton. Jonah Cassidy was Inspector Maggie
Sawyer. And some notable regular guests, you've
got Ron Perlman, who is the DCAU voice god. Anything
he does in DCAU is just amazing. Yep. Even though
Teen Titans is not in continuity. Leslie Easterbrook
as Mala. Sarah Douglas as... Oh, Mala had two
different voice actresses. Okay. Malcolm McDowell
as John Corbin. Michael Dorn. Michael Dorn! Yeah!
As Calaback. So there you go, Star Trek buffs.
He was Calaback and John Henry Irons, a .k .a.
Steel. Lori Petty as Leslie Willis slash Livewire.
Bruce Weitz as Bruno Mannheim. Jody Benson as
Angela Evans -Smith. Brad Garrett as the main
man Lobo Bibbo and Nito Corrali. I don't remember
that character off the top of my head. Yeah,
me neither. William H. Macy as the director of
the Paranormals Institute. Jason Marsden as the
teenage Clark Kent. Nicole Tom as Supergirl.
Bud Cort as Toy Man. Melissa Joan Hart as Saturn
Girl. Chad Lowe as Cosmic Boy. Scott Menville
as Braver Man. Kenny Braver Man. I don't know
who that is. I don't know. It's one of those
Teen Titans or Legion of Superheroes crossovers.
Yeah, you're right. I can't believe this next
title. Oh, God. I can't believe this. Brandon
Walsh. Oh, wait, I mean Jason Priestley as Freak
Daggle, a .k .a. Chameleon Boy. And, of course,
the ever -present, the ever -awesome Kevin Conroy
as Bruce Wayne slash Batman, Mark Hamill as the
Joker, Paul Williams as the Penguin, John Glover
as the Riddler, Bob Hastings as Commissioner
James Gordon, Charity James as Roxy Rocket, Roddy
McDowell as the Mad Hatter, Henry... Silva as
Bane, Matthew Valencia as Tim Drake slash Robin,
and David Warner as Ra's al Ghul. Heck yeah.
I know that's a long cast listing, but if you
had to pick a favorite and least favorite character
from Superman the Animated Series, who would
they be and why? Oh, man. Okay, well, Superman
is obviously a great one to pick, but, you know...
It's so hard. I want to pick Lois just because
I think she was so well portrayed by Dana Delaney.
At the same time, she didn't do anything in the
show. Occasionally, she might save Superman by
throwing the kryptonite away from him. She rescued
him that one time in the finale. In general,
she doesn't do much. She's just kind of there
to further the plot to an extent and to get saved.
Which is interesting because her character and
the way she's portrayed, you know, that's not
really her personality. It's just the situation
surrounding her. But still, I don't know. I think
personality -wise I like Lois the best, but overall
I've got to say, you know, Superman is just,
this is the definitive Superman for me. So I'll
give it to him, I think. Yeah. What about least
favorite? Good question. I don't really hate
any character from this show. Jax -er and Mala
are up there as being pretty annoying. Even though
the voice acting for Jax -er was awesome, but
yeah, the characters themselves kind of meh.
I mean, I appreciate. I'm glad we had those episodes
because I think you always need that episode
with the Phantom Zone and having the criminals
come back out. It's an important part of the
Superman mythos. I think it's a good thing to
have in there. Ironically enough, my least favorite
is going to be a weird one. It's going to be
Jonathan Kent because maybe I was spoiled by
watching Smallville later and how John Schneider
portrayed him so well in that show. But this
Jonathan Kent has no depth. He's just there to
make a kind of funny or dopey remark every now
and then. He has almost no real resonance. Concerning
the fact that they went with the post -crisis
version where both parents are still alive, I
think you needed them to really be a good presence
in his life, and Martha Kent was sort of like
that. She had some decently insightful dialogue,
but Jonathan Kent was almost like her goofy counterpart.
He wasn't that goofy, but still, he was a little
pointless. So I think that's kind of disappointing
for me. Yeah, I'm going to have to agree. I think
what they should have done, and I know they didn't
do this because obviously I don't think at the
time they really thought about it, and I'm not
sure if these two people would have been able
to even voice the characters, but Eddie Jones
and Kay Callen, who actually portrayed on screen
Martha and Jonathan in Lois and Clark, The New
Adventures of Superman, they would have been
a nice... voice over for the, for the Kents in
this series, I think. Yeah, they were good. I
liked them a lot. Yeah. I mean, you know, Jonathan
and Martha aren't, you know, they're not seen
that much as far as I remember. I mean, they're
seen obviously in the beginning, obviously in
the last son of Krypton three -parter and they're
seen and, you know, sporadic episodes throughout.
So it wouldn't be a steady, if Kay Callan and
Eddie Jones had had the time, it would, it would
have just been, you know, like one of those one
-shot voice roles that you come in every once
in a while that wouldn't be like someone like
Tim Daly or Dana Delaney where you have to be
every day or however the voice acting schedule
went. But I think it could have brought more
to them. I think, okay, well, they were very
rarely seen, but they were very important just
because, I mean, they were there. during the
scenes where Clark becomes Superman. So they
helped forge his character. And then there's
the episode later where it seems like Clark Kent
has died. The late Mr. Kent, that awesome episode
where Superman has to figure out what he's going
to do now that everyone thinks Clark Kent is
dead. And in that episode, you've got him going
back to Smallville and he's like, what do I do
now? And they have a conversation with him. And
that was the perfect time to have some... deep
character development with with them just talking
to him and martha kent talks to him uh but jonathan
doesn't have much to do there's a whole episode
called father's day where he shows up in metropolis
and there's this whole parallel between superman
and his dad jonathan kent and calaback and his
father dark side yet jonathan kent he's just
kind of there to kind of get in trouble and make
a goofy joke every now and then and it's like
oh Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying at all that the
Martha and Jonathan are ancillary characters
at all in this cartoon. I'm saying that I think
that Eddie Jones and Kay Callen would have fit
the characters better than the voice actors that
they got to fit them. They would have put that
in motion. Eddie Jones would have done more with
the Father's Day episode. So, yeah. For me, as
far as favorite characters, it actually boils
down to how they interact with everybody. No
one can deny that Clancy Brown is the best voice
acting Lex Luthor. And actually, it's funny because
I don't know why. I don't remember off the top
of my head, and maybe it'll say it later in the
script. I haven't read through the whole script
yet. They made Lex black in this series. Well,
no, he's not actually black. He has a slightly
darker skin tone, and his lips are a bit bigger,
but technically... In interviews, they mentioned
that he's not actually black. He's sort of a
little bit like of a mixed race, I guess. He's
mostly Caucasian, like we'll say 75%. But he's
got a little bit of something else in there.
So he's not actually black. People confuse that
a lot, though. But if you put him next to other
black characters on the show, it's like night
and day. It's very different. And in Justice
League, when he comes back, he's totally white.
They changed his skin tone so people wouldn't
be confused anymore. Yeah, he still does – like
when I see – and I'm not – we're not going to
get into a big debate over this. That's fine.
But like seeing him next to Superman, seeing
their faces next to each other, Superman is white.
Lex Luthor is a darker – way darker shade than
Superman. I can see that. And I'm not saying
that to be racist at all. I'm just saying that
because that's the way I perceived it. And one
of the reasons why I perceived him as African
-American was because that's what I thought that
the character model looked like, and if that's
incorrect, I'm sorry. At the time, that's what
I thought it was. And originally, I thought because
it was an African -American Lex Luthor, I thought
Clancy Brown was African -American. Well, when
I was a kid, I used to think that he had an African
-American voice actor even though I didn't think
he was black. So yeah, I was with you on that
one. Yeah. And then Dana Delaney as Lois is just
awesome. I mean, if I had to pick, like, my favorite
character out of this, I probably wouldn't be
able to. I mean, I can go ahead and pick Superman
because Tim Bailey did an awesome job. I mean,
Tim Bailey voiced not only Clark and Superman,
even though they are the same person, he also
voiced Bizarro. Yeah, that was so weird. What's
even better is later in Justice League, when
George Newbern takes over Superman's role because
Tim Daly wasn't available at the time to reprise,
George Newbern also does Bizarro in Justice League.
I've told this story before, and I'll tell it
again here. I know that we're focusing on Superman
the Animated Series, but since we're talking
about voice acting here... From the time that
I found out about Justice League until obviously
I've watched it millions and millions of times,
I just wrapped up a podcast about Justice League,
Secret Origins podcast. Go to geekcastradio .com,
check it out. But the change from Daily to New
Bern, I never noticed it. I never noticed it.
Oh, I totally noticed it and I hated it when
I first saw it. On that first episode, it didn't
help that in Justice League they gave Superman
those horrible age lines around his eyes and
his cheeks. But he has this frog in his throat.
If you compare the two voices, there's a really
clear difference. Although, in the second season
of Justice League episode, Twilight, that's where
they took away the age lines and they made Superman.
They brought back the dark side Superman conflict
from this series. At that point... Daly, I guess
he'd been practicing because I – or excuse me,
not Daly. He'd been practicing because I thought
he was Tim Daly. I was like, oh. That's what
I'm saying as far as just in general. I mean
not specifically season one or season two of
Justice League but just overall his voicing of
Superman. I didn't realize it was somebody different.
And then – and I know I'm going to end up bringing
this up in the Justice League episode or ToonCast.
Then I hadn't thought that I had ever seen George
Newbern in anything else other than the special
features for Justice League. And I didn't recognize
him. And then, I don't know, a couple years ago,
for some strange reason, don't ask me why, I
put in the DVD player Adventures in Babysitting.
He is in Adventures in Babysitting with Elizabeth
Shue. Okay. But, yeah, I really like the dynamic
between Mixie and Superman. I thought that was
hilarious. They're perfect. Yeah, I thought that
was great. I do like, I love Darkseid and Calibac.
Michael, not Michael Dorn, Michael Ironside.
Michael Ironside, I don't care who you are, Michael
Ironside, and I know you'll agree with me, but
Michael Ironside is the definitive dark side
for animation. He's the definitive dark side,
period. I don't care for anything. He's the definitive
dark side forever and ever. Exactly. I mean,
he's just... The voice in Flight, and it's Ironside's
voice. I've seen him in so many other things.
Before I even knew about Superman, I've seen
him in so many other things. One of the ones
specifically I can think of off the top of my
head, which might make people cringe, is Starship
Troopers. Oh, that's a good movie. Well, I don't
know. Some people may or may not like it. But
yeah, Starship Troopers. It's cheesy, but it's
good. You know, just... The way he handled the
dark side character was just amazing. And I so
wish, I know we can't go back in time and have
it, have it done this way. I so wish they brought
back Conroy. They brought back daily. They brought
back, uh, who else did they bring back in, in
apocalypse? Um, uh, Ed, Ed Asner is granny goodness.
You know, they brought back those three, but,
They couldn't bring back Ironside as Darkseid.
They had to use Andre Brouwer. Don't get me wrong,
I love Andre Brouwer as an actor in most of the
stuff he does, but I'm sorry, that Darkseid voice
sucked. But that's another subject for another
day. Right, right. Yes, 65 years in the future,
Tooncast Beyond. Anyway, who is your favorite
voice? I mean, I know we talked about characters,
but who is, like... the one voice that you could
listen to all the time, who, which voice actor
did you like the best? Um, hmm. Uh, well, Dana
Delaney is up there. Uh, uh, probably between
Dana Delaney and Michael Ironside, I think. Uh,
yeah, I also did like, um, Jolie Fisher as Lana
Lang, or Lana Lang, as she's called in the series.
Yeah. I thought she was lots of fun. Um, Yeah,
you know, probably one of those. Yeah, I definitely
have to agree on David Delaney as Lois. Even
though it's just his own voice, I love Garrett
as Lobo and as Bibbo. Yes. Specifically, I love
Brad Garrett as Bibbo because of all the mutterings
he does. Oh, yes, yes. And I love him as Lobo
for just how in -your -face he is. Oh, oh, yeah,
yeah. So getting into some behind -the -scenes
stuff, some production notes here. For those
of you who may not know the character of Dan
Terrible Turpin, was visually modeled after the
character's creator, Jack Kirby. His first appearance
in the episode Tools of the Trade also marks
the first series appearance of the Fourth World
characters and concepts that were Jack Kirby's
major modern DC Comics creation. Yeah, that episode,
Apocalypse Now, oh, damn. Yeah, that was a really,
really bad ending, but it was a nice in -memory
of Kirby. Well, I thought it was a perfect ending,
personally. Okay. Let's see. Series producer
Bruce Timms personally storyboarded Superman's
climactic final fight with Darkseid in the series
finale Legacy to ensure it would be done right
and have it as much of an impact as possible.
Good job. I don't think you can get much more
of an impact than that, other than, you know,
slow motion Matrix fist to the face in Destroyer
in Justice League. Well, there's that, yeah.
I mean, his fight with Darkseid in Twilight in
Justice League was also very good. I mean, that
was awesome. But this was definitely one of their,
well, one of their only and best fights. The
top three Superman -Darkseid fights, I think
there's only been three of them. Big, major battles
was Legacy, Twilight, and Destroyer. I love all
three of them for different reasons and all that.
I love the one in Twilight for... And I'm not
going to stop until you're just a greasy smear
on my fist. Well, that's the one where Superman
is like, screw you, Darkseid, I'm going to...
take you down and he does I mean it's so great
because actually with that episode when they
first aired it it was the third hour of a three
hour Superman Justice League marathon and Cartoon
Network actually showed Apocalypse Now And then
– parts one and two. Then they showed Legacy
parts one and two. And then they showed this
episode for the first time as a full one -hour
episode. So you saw Darkseid beat Superman down
in Apocalypse Now. Then you saw Superman get
brainwashed and then beat Darkseid but ultimately
not entirely win the war in Legacy. So by the
time you saw Twilight, you were so ready to see
Superman just unleash on Darkseid and finally
beat him. And he did, and it was awesome. And
everyone cheered. It was amazing. Yes. Let's
see. I found this very interesting. I did not
know this. And I've actually, if I could get
a degree in DCAU knowledge, I would still get
a degree in it because I've studied this stuff
for years now since I've known about it. But
I did not know this little trivia fact. Clancy
Brown, who voiced Lex, originally auditioned
for the lead role of Superman. That would be
a very different Superman. How did he play that?
I don't know. If we ever get an interview with
him, I'm so going to ask him. I hope he played
just like Lex, with that exact same sinister
dark tone. Probably. And then the funny thing
is about Clancy Brown, I just found this out
the other day. I knew it in the back of my head,
but it didn't occur to me. A couple weekends
ago, I was watching The Shawshank Redemption.
And he is Guard Hadley in that, the head guard.
Before this, I had never seen – before Shawshank,
I had never seen Clancy Brown in a live -action
role. And I have seen Shawshank a number of times
over the years since it's been released. And
I never put two and two together until I started
listening to Hadley's voice in that movie. And
I'm like, that's got to be Clancy Brown because
it sounds just like Lex. Yeah, yeah. Let's see
here. Getting into some of the directors and
the producers and all that stuff. Obviously,
we're just going to briefly talk about some of
these guys and gals. Kurt Gaeta, Dan Reba, who
are mainstays. Butch, is it Lucic or Lukic? I
don't know how to say his last name. Something
like that. Butch Lukic, we'll say. Yeah, I'm
not sure. Of course, Joe Shuster and Jerry Siegel
created Superman. Paul Dini, Hilary Bader, Rich
Fogle, Alan Burnett, Stan Berkowitz, Jack Kirby,
Bill Finger, Bob Kane, Mark Avenir, Bruce W.
Tim. Just amazing, amazing writing. And the one
thing I love about DCAU, and I'll say this in
future episodes, the one thing I love is when
Bruce, Tim, and them were able to, they brought
in the creators. Like, Bill Finger and Kane did
five episodes of this series. Obviously, I think
those probably were the five episodes that probably
featured Batman, obviously. Jack Kirby and his
fourth world characters. There's another one
on here. Jerry and Joe, obviously, since Superman
is their creation, 46 episodes. They bring in
people that either had a good run or wrote them
really well in the comics or some epic comic
story, and they have them write an episode or
two, and it's just so amazing. Well, this is
the first, I think, Superman animated production
that really worked hard to make the Superman
universe feel like the comics, where Superman
actually does punch people, and he does get into
brawls, and he is more authoritative. He's not
just flying around, saving kittens and catching
planes and smiling at the camera while he's out
in space. It's interesting because Superman is
a character that, for the most part, is actually
defined more by, I think, TV shows and movies
than he is by the comics. Most people know Superman
for the Chris Reeve films and for the TV shows,
so this was really notable that it reversed that
trend. make most stuff up. It didn't try to reinvent
the wheel like Superman the movie did. It didn't
just copy those movies like some of the other
TV shows like Superboy did. It actually went
to the comics and it found the best elements
of what was then the current run of Superman
and it brought it to animation. Exactly. One
of the biggest changes to the Superman origin
is that the evil computer Brainiac was not only
from Krypton, but was portrayed as responsible
for preventing the knowledge of Krypton's imminent
destruction from reaching its... so as to save
himself rather than be committed in the presumably
futile task of saving the population of the planet.
In addition, the ship that carried the infant
Kal -El to Earth was designed to have a pilot,
and the autopilot used instead was programmed
to land smoothly upon reaching its destination.
This means that the ship is in perfect working
condition during Superman's adulthood, and is
used as his mode of long -range transportation
in space. Yep, yep. As long as he wears a helmet
in space. Yeah, I mean, I appreciate that they
didn't make Superman, you know, like that guy
who can just, like, traverse the entire galaxy
in 20 minutes. It's like, really? If he can do
that, then he can do anything and there's no
show anymore, you know? So I like the fact that
he can't breathe in space, that he is a little
bit more human -like, you know? I appreciate
the other versions, too, where he can't breathe
in space. That's fine. But, you know, for this
show, I like the fact that he can't breathe in
space and he's a spaceship. Also, Brainiac, his
change from the comics was brilliant. I mean,
you know, he's basically Krypton's master control
program. And that was such an awesome, awesome
move to the point where every version of Brainiac
after this has copied it. They're like, oh, yeah,
that's the way to do it. They change the character,
and it's great. It has that same connection.
Because in the comics, Brainiac, he shrunk down
and basically kidnapped the entire Kryptonian
city of Kandor, put it in a bottle. But in this
one, he literally kept the Kryptonians from leaving
Krypton, thus essentially being responsible for
their deaths. And so he committed genocide indirectly.
Whenever I show my friends... This show, I always
show them the three -part pilot. I'm like, here,
watch this. And then we immediately watch Brainiac's
return in, what's it called? Stolen Memories.
Yeah, Stolen Memories. Where Superman finds out
what he did to his father and to his people,
and he is pissed, and it's like, yes. So that,
yeah, Brainiac was a great, a very well -reinvented
character for the show. Yeah, exactly. And Brainiac
was just... The thing that I loved about Last
Son of Krypton, the three -parter that started
the series, was you've got... I don't know off
the top of my head who voiced Lara, his mother.
You've got friggin' Shooter McGavin, Christopher
McDonald, as Jor -El. That's amazing. I never
knew it was him until someone pointed it out,
and I was like, oh my god, you're right. I know
McDonald's voice anywhere. I've seen Happy Gilmore
so many times that I know that voice, and I was
like, oh wow, so awesome. And then they brought
him back to voice the older Kal -El in Beyond,
and that was pretty awesome. Yes, they did. Oh,
and he came back too in Justice League, didn't
he? Yeah, he did briefly. I believe it was for
The Man Who Has Everything. Yeah. The episode
I was talking about earlier with Loana and Van
Allen and all that. Since we're talking about
the actual show and some of the episodes, one
of the biggest things for this, at least in my
opinion, was World's Finest. Yeah. Oh, God, I
love that movie. Me too, me too. I know specifically
to the show it's a three -parter, but they also
released a direct -to -video film of it, film
version of it without the – it has the cut scenes
where like – I remember one of the cut scenes
was when Bruce tagged his cape and he's like
– he picks up the tracer and smashes it and he's
like, ah, touche. He says the line touche. And
it just ends. And normally in the episodic version,
it would end and go to the credits. But here
in the movie, it's just one fluid thing. And
I just, I absolutely love World's Finest. Oh
yeah, me too. It was so weird when, because this
was the first time I'd ever seen any crossover
of any, you know, show or anything. Because,
you know, I was, I think, eight at the time.
I remember we went to the video store, you know,
this is back when Blockbuster was still in business,
you know. Actually, it was a Hollywood video.
So we were just going there, and I, of course,
walked straight over to the VHS tapes. And I
was eight. I didn't know it was coming out soon.
The Internet was barely around even back then.
So anyway, I walk over there, and I see this
thing. It's like the Batman -Superman movie.
I pick it up. I look at it, and I'm like, there's
Batman and Superman and Lex Luthor and the Joker.
On the same cover. And I was like, no, no, no.
I knew the way that the show worked. They had,
it was called the new Batman Superman Adventures
at the time. But they weren't together. They
were separate. You know, you had your Superman,
then you had your Batmans. I figured they were,
maybe it was like, you know, a couple Superman
episodes, a couple Batman episodes. I look at
the back and there's like a screenshot on there.
It's like there's Batman and Superman looking
at each other, talking. And I'm like, wait a
minute. Wait a minute. No way, they're actually
talking to each other? So I, like, ran to my
parents. I was like, we have to rent this. The
Superman and Batman together. And then they were
like, really? Oh, cool. All right, awesome. I
was like, yes! So, yeah, this, like, blew my
mind as a kid. And it's so, so well done. Yeah,
it's just amazing. It's a great story. It's just
amazing. The dynamic between the two of them,
between Batman and Superman. starts with this
crossover in the DCAU because if you start with
Justice League and you see in the beginning of
Secret Origins when the two of them have the
bickering back and forth or they trade quips,
if you haven't seen World's Finest before that,
you would probably feel out of place, but oh
wow, just so awesome. Their chemistry is impossibly
good. I mean, it's insane just how well those
two characters and those two actors work together.
I mean, they really found all the best ways to
have them interact, and it's great. And the other
thing about Daly versus Newbern, which, again,
for me, there is no real versus with them because
I like them both as Superman. Right, right. The
thing about it is... Like I was saying, if you'd
watched Justice League Secret Origins first where
you have Newber and Superman, you'd probably
be taken aback. But see, for me it was different.
For me it was, oh, and that's where – when I
first watched Secret Origins, that's where I
never realized that it wasn't – that it was somebody
different because of the banter back and forth
between Kevin Conroy and – I got you. Between
the two characters because they kept the banter
up. And I'm like, wow. It's just like when World's
Finest was on. But, oh, wait, no, that's not
Tim Daly. Well, I mean, if you look at that pilot,
too, with Secret Origins, essentially the first
part is just a World's Finest episode. And then
eventually they have all the same things. You
have Batman in his Batplane fighting those three
-legged robots just like in World's Finest. But
then it's like, oh no, even with their powers
combined, they can't beat them. So it's like
it's literally taking world's finest and taking
it to the next step in Secret Origin. So it's
saying, oh, we need even more heroes now. I can't
believe you worked in a Captain Planet reference
there. Oh god. That was not intentional, I promise.
Yeah, well, anyone ever says, let our powers
combine? I think of the Wonder Twins, but I guess
that's not where that came from, huh? Yeah. Oh,
dang it. I should stop using that now. Yeah,
one of the things I wanted to bring up was also
midway through the series' run, it was combined
with the new Batman Adventures to become the
new Batman Superman Adventures. Superman TAS
itself was renamed the New Superman Adventures.
As acknowledged by the WB, the characters of
Superman and Batman were then spun off in a new
animated series, Justice League, which also featured
other popular DC Comics characters, including
Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Jon Stewart, Martian
Manhunter, Hot Girl, and The Flash. And just
this series, yes, it does have its bad episodes
like, oh, what's that one where Lois has the
award and Lightner is after her? Oh, Target?
Yeah. Yeah, that one wasn't that great. But overall,
just Superman the Animated Series was just amazing.
Now, do you remember the episode? I'm sure you
do. You remember the episode of Batman Beyond
the Call? Oh, yeah. The Call Part 2, where they
break out of the fortress, and Starro is controlling
the gray -suited Superman, or the black -suited
Superman, whatever you want to call it. And they
play this really, really dark STAS theme. I freaking
love that. I love when they do alterations like
that to the original theme to make it fit to
whatever scene they're trying to do it. At different
points, when Batman is on screen in Justice League
or whatever, sometimes they will play the BTAS
theme. And just hearing stuff like that is just
amazing to me. I guess give me your top three
favorite episodes, and I'll give you mine, and
then we'll move on. Oh, man, I've got to think
about this one. Well, The Late Mr. Kent is definitely
up there. Yeah. I'm trying to remember the entire
series run now. Let's see. Stolen Memories, I
think, is another one. I mentioned that one already.
But, yeah, I think that was a really great. way
to make superman and uh to make the krypton story
personal for him because most superman origin
stories it's like you don't quite get why he
cares so much about his planet it's like well
sure but i mean the thing is you know If you
talk to kids who were adopted, it's like, well,
yeah, they're kind of curious about their biological
parents, but it's not going to drive them mad
almost like it seems like it does with Superman.
Of course, he's an alien, so it makes a bit more
sense. But still, it's like this episode, I think,
really made it a very strong personal thing.
It made Brainiac a very good villain. It also
had some good stuff with Lex Luthor and him having
to work with Superman, where they had to find
common ground as, like, you know, Earthlings
fighting against this evil invader. Aside from
that, I think there's a lot of them that I really
love, but I actually kind of think the main man
parts one and two with Lobo. I mean, oh, whenever
I show my friends that, they almost die laughing.
It's just because it's Lobo. It's so amazing.
It's just, it's so much fun, you know? Uh, so
yeah, I think that those three probably, I love
so many more, but if I, yeah, I mean, there's
so many more to, I mean, like I said, there's
only maybe at least in my overall opinion of
sheer enjoyment. Well, like if I was going to
sit down and watch this series from start to
finish just for sheer enjoyment and not for reviewers
sake, there's, A lot of episodes I can overlook.
There's some that I really can't. But, I mean,
the majority of it is out of, what is it, three
seasons, three years, four years, whatever it
was. There's only maybe two, three, maybe four
total episodes that I can't watch, that I just
don't want to watch. Other than that, for me,
most of the two -parters, you know, Apocalypse
Now, Main Man, Legacy, just... A lot of those
two -part story type stuff, I really, really
enjoyed those. So up next, before the music segment,
you are going to hear, this is the last time
I will play it on ToonCast, I promise, but you
are going to hear the new Batman Superman Adventures
theme, because I love it. It's just a mash between
BTAS and STAS, and it's awesome. I played it
in last week's episode for BTAS. You're going
to hear it one more time, and I also might try
to find, I might try to get a good version of
the dark Superman the Animated Series theme from
that Batman Beyond episode we talked about. So
we will be back after this. is that faster than
a speeding bullet. I remember when we did the
music on this show, Chris did a really interesting
thing where Superman's chasing Batman across
the frozen tundra, and he's playing the Superman
theme, but it's really off -kilter and not necessarily
evil, but it just sounds wrong. It just sounds
weird, and it's all in minor chords and stuff.
It's just really cool and creepy. Was it Adam
Van Wick's idea to have Superman flying upright
at that point? Yeah, that was one of the first
times we did that, yeah. It's really cool. Because
normally we're so used to seeing him flying horizontal,
and there he's just standing straight up and
just kind of, like, levitating. And it was like,
wow, that's weird. In a way, I felt really bad
in retrospect about this episode because when
you were doing Justice League, I was thinking,
like, well, they'll probably work Starro in at
some point. And I go, no, well, they already
did Starro, and we have to keep him away because...
Because there's a continuity problem. Yeah, I
think Starro did come up in conversation several
times while we were working on Justice League,
but I was never a huge Starro fan anyway, so
I don't regret not getting to use him in Justice
League. I mean, it's kind of like, I don't know,
you need all seven of those guys to fight giant
starfish. Yes, that was awesome music. You wanted
to bring up something before we move actually
into the music. You wanted to talk about the
premiere. Three -part pilot. Oh, yeah, I totally
forgot. Actually, The Last Son of Krypton, parts
one and two and three, that's actually my top
episode overall. My favorite Superman origin,
it does so many things right. The entire first
episode is set on Krypton. You get to see its
final days. You get to see Jor -El being, like,
the action hero, firing off laser pistols on
his hover bike and, you know, running from the
cops, which is so weird for Jor -El. But, you
know, it's a great... awesome awesome uh first
episode and you know it's the entire uh three
episode arc is brilliant i think it's you know
i mean yeah it's my definitive version of superman
of course but i think this pilot goes a long
way in doing that the way it establishes the
character and and the world and everything it's
just it's perfect so yeah yeah they they really
nailed it doing the lesson of krypton three par
um It was just amazing. It's almost like, and
it reminds me so much of Schneider and O'Toole
in Smallville, whereas Martha and Jonathan in
Smallville are those types of parents that will
do anything for Clark here on Earth. But Last
Son of Krypton, now that I'm thinking about it,
Jor -El and Lara, they themselves in Superman
the Animated Series are, the animated versions
of Clark's earth parents. I had thought about
that, but you're right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I,
I just think, you know, just thinking about it,
if you look at John Schneider and, and then O'Toole's
Jonathan and Martha, and you look at Christopher
McDonald's and I forget who does Lara off top
of my head. Some awesome British lady. I think
it's. Finola Hughes, let me look it up really
quick. But, yeah, just amazing, amazing stuff.
And it was just one of those parallels that I
just kind of drew on my own that was just awesome
because, like you said, they're willing to do
anything. Right. I think actually – I mean in
that first episode, they're only really in the
show for just the first 22 minutes. But in those
22 minutes, you fall in love with those characters
and when they die, your heart is broken. Oh,
I know. Yeah. It's just – it's amazing and I
think this was what made me really – Even though
I already loved Superman as a kid just because
he was awesome and he had powers and he had that
cool blue suit and the red cape. I think this
– that opening episode really made me love the
Superman universe just because it made it really
personal. So yeah, Jor -El and Lara, they're
amazing in this series. And I was right. It was
Fanola Hughes. Good job. Yeah, well, the only
reason why I know it was her, because I'm ashamed
to admit this, but a number of years ago, for
some strange reason, don't ask me why, I was
addicted to watching ABC Daytime Soaps, and she
was on General Hospital. Ah. Well, okay. Yeah,
I know. I know. I should turn my geek grid in
now. I know. It's okay. It's okay. The other
thing I should point out here, Sullivan. In Last
Son of Krypton was voiced by Tony Jay. Tony Jay
is an amazing voice actor. Yeah, I really loved
the whole family drama in that episode. I like
how Lara's family has the British accent. Like,
they're more proper and everything. But Jor -El
has, like, a straight -up American accent. He's
off, you know, fighting the police and running
around, being the action hero. So there's that
stark contrast, you know. And in the end, they
have to come together. It's pretty great. So
moving into the music segment finally here, same
people pretty much from BTS here for STS. I think
Lolita Romanes took the main bulk of the episodes.
You also had Michael McQuistion, Christopher
Carter, Harvey Cohen, and Shirley Walker doing
a few episodes as well. Again, music for this
show was just amazing. Oh, yeah, yeah. I think
Bruce Timm said it on one of the STAS DVD features
that when they were coming up, when he was telling
Lolita about how he wanted the theme song to
sound, he wanted it for you to be able to sing
Superman, Superman, as it's going along. And
that was just an amazing music cue. I wish, I'm
hoping, I'm crossing my fingers it hasn't happened
yet. Much like last week when I talked about
the Batman the Animated Series soundtrack from
La La Land Records, I'm hoping that Warner Brothers
allows La La Land to make a Superman the Animated
Series and Justice League soundtrack. I'm sure
they will one day. Yeah, one day. In the future.
Let's see. There are a ton of references. I'm
not going to go through them all. But let's see.
In the episode The Main Man Part 2, one of these
spaceships resembles the Batwing from the first
Batman film. It does, yeah. It's green, but yeah.
Of course, there's in Stolen Memories, Superman
punches Brainiac's laser beam. Of course, that
was a reference to the first Fleischer Brothers
Superman cartoon. It's an awesome moment. Yes,
it is very awesome. Let's see. Actor Sherman
Howard, who portrayed Lex Luthor on the television
series Superboy, played the Preserver on the
two -parter episode The Main Man. Howard also
auditioned to reprise his role for the animated
series. However, Clancy Brown won the role. However,
he would later be offered the role as Derek Powers
on Batman Beyond. Oh, that's interesting. That's
very fitting, I think. I did not know that. I
mean, I knew that... that Sherman Howard was,
was the preserver, but I did not know that he
was also, um, third power. It's interesting.
Yeah. Um, now we've got to talk about some of
the post, uh, legacy Superman STAS after legacy
before justice league. Uh, there was, uh, he
seemed at the beginning of justice league, the
human race appears to have forgiven him. which
was Justice League as well. One of the creatures
Superman brings back to the Fortress of Solitude
after his battle with the Preserver is Starro.
And in Batman Beyond, two -parter episode entitled
The Call, which we talked about earlier, the
creature escaped and was controlling Superman
for some time until Terry Bat figured it out
and helped him overcome it. And then there's...
Oh, no. I don't think Mike and James listen to
this show, so it's a good thing because their
ears are going to bleed. In Static Shock, the
episode Toys in the Hood. I know they hate that
episode. The story about Darcy the android and
Toyman from the third season of Obsession comes
to a conclusion. Wait, what? I think I was actually
more shocked at Mike's reaction to that episode
than I was at it itself. I was like, wow, okay.
Yeah. We should also mention that people have
long tried to say that Superman Brainiac Attacks,
which is a direct -to -video DVD, is an STAS
continuity. It is not. Yeah, it's so not. Yes,
the voice actors are the same, but there's no
way it's in continuity because the whole story
is different. It doesn't fit into anything within
Superman the Animated Series whatsoever. What
did you say? You're breaking up. Am I still here?
Yeah, you're still here, but you're breaking
up a little bit. I don't know why that's going
on. Because that was a cheap way of doing all
that pre -production work. but it's not intended
to actually continue any story whatsoever. Yeah.
Yeah, no, it has no bearing on Superman the Animated
Series whatsoever. As far as, I didn't know that
there was, hmm, interesting, I didn't know there
was video games for it. Superman the Animated
Series, much like Batman the Animated Series
and other Warner Brothers cartoons adopted from
popular DC comic books, has released on DVD.
First released January 25, 2005, though it did
not receive the same disc transfer as Batman
TAS did, the second disc of each volume was given
the side A -B treatment. The DVDs present the
series episodes in their airing order along with
special features. Bottom line, much like every
other DCAU show at this point, Get the complete
series. Superman the Animated Series, I know
for a fact, was not a limited edition like Batman
the Animated Series and like Batman Beyond is.
I believe you can get it on Amazon for under
$40. It's $20 .99 when I last checked. So yeah,
the entire show for $21. Just stop listening
to this, pause the podcast, and go buy it. Exactly.
Yeah. Although it's not in the DCAU continuity,
Superman, Batman, Public Enemies, and Apocalypse
were also on DVD as well, where Tim Daly reprises
the role as the Man of Steel in both the movies.
Apparently, Apocalypse Now Part 2 was later altered
from its original airing on February 7, 1998.
Originally, Dan Turpin's funeral at the end of
the episode was a true homage to late New Gods
creator Jack Kirby and featured several of his
comic creations as attendees to the funeral,
including Nick Fury, Fantastic Four, Big Bart,
Scott Free, Orion, and others, alongside Kirby's
friends and fans Mark Evanier, Bruce Timm, Paul
Dini, Alex Ross, his father, Norman Ross, and
Stan Lee. These characters and persons were later
removed, and the scene pacing was re -edited
for subsequent airings as It's DVD release on
Superman TAS Volume 3, Disc 3. The original sketches
for this scene can be found at Michael Urie's
book, The Krypton Companion Book, published by
Tomorrow's Publishing. Neither DC nor Warner
ever commented on the decision to alter this
particular scene, but copyright issues regarding
the use of likenesses of Marvel Comics characters
might justify the deletion. Let's see. Superman
differences between BTAS and STAS. STAS was originally
meant to have an opening montage similar to the
one that Batman had, showcasing what Superman
could do in an awe -inspiring manner, but the
animators were unable to finish it by the deadline,
so a montage featuring clips of Superman in action
alongside his supporting cast from the episodes
were utilized instead. I like that intro better.
I honestly do. Which one? The one that we have.
The clip intro where it's just different adventures
of Superman and the cast versus Superman out
on a nightly errand and he punches somebody in
the face? Well, I mean, we don't really know
what all would have happened. So, I mean, I really,
I wish that they had eventually, maybe like in
season two or whatever, you know, made the new
intro just because I would have liked to have
seen it. But, you know, I mean, yeah, it's fine.
I didn't realize it wasn't the intended intro.
I thought it was fine as a kid. It wasn't until
I read this that I was like, oh, it's not the
original one. Yeah, no, it wasn't. I believe
Bruce Timm mentions it on one of the DVD commentaries.
Yeah, he does. That he said that originally it
was supposed to have some sort of Christopher
Reeve -type feel, like some sort of, oh, John
Williams. Is it John Williams that did? Yeah.
The Superman the movie score? Yes, he did. Yeah.
It was supposed to have some sort of John Williams
feel to it as far as the music and as far as
the way that it was supposed to look. But I'm
happy with what we have, so... Yeah, I mean,
it works out just fine. Yes, yes it does. So
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see a new episode of ToonCast coming this week.
Welcome to a collaboration between the Geekcast
Radio Network and the Pop Culture Network. This
is From the Command Center, the podcast. I am
your host, TF2, and Mike from the GCRN, and joining
me is Zordon himself. Uh, uh, wait. I mean, Scotty
Cash. That's right, Scotty Cash from the Pop
Culture Network, and today we're introducing
you to the audio version of From the Command
Center, the podcast that will entail our intake
on Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, the episodes,
the seasons, and all that other good stuff. So,
final thoughts on Superman the Animated Series,
sir? Oh, man. Awesome, amazing series. Not just...
An integral part of my childhood, but an integral
part of my comics fandom and my geekdom. I think
it's the definitive version of the Superman universe.
I think it's an absolutely amazing series of
the utmost high quality in every possible way.
I think it's notable in that it shows Superman
being markedly different. then Christopher Reeve
yet still being just as compelling. I think even
more compelling in certain ways. Maybe less in
others, but I think Clark Kent as a character,
the fact that he's not bumbling, the fact that
he's very direct and clever and clear, but he
uses cleverness to hide his identity, not just
acting like an idiot. I think that's really great.
I think it makes you able to relate to Clark
Kent and Superman on a certain level because
that way you know that... He's being himself
when he's Clark. He's just hiding his powers.
And I think that's really great for his relationships.
I think just in every possible way, the action,
the music, the dialogue, just everything about
this show is great. It gets kind of overlooked
in hindsight because it's not Batman, the animated
series, basically. But no, I think... It's not
as good as Batman in certain ways, but in other
ways it's a lot better. So I think anyone who
is even vaguely interested in comic books or
Superman or anything has to check this out. Exactly.
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myself. I feel like Robin Williams. Good morning,
Vietnam. Anyway. We did get an updated review
from that person that I talked about last episode,
Fooch41. February 22nd is a five -star review.
Basically says the same things. He loves listening.
He's hoping for Rock Rose Modern Life, Beavis
and Butthead. Those are all potentials. All the
stuff that you list in your review, Fooch41,
that's all potential DeLorean Time episodes for
TuneCast Beyond. And then he also says, The ToonCast
helps him through the work week, and he's glad
that we are doing ToonCast Beyond. Thank you
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We hope you enjoyed this episode of ToonCast.
I wish you'll join us next time when Aaron will
be returning with myself and Steve Megatron will
be back. We'll be continuing the DCAU Spotlight
with Batman Beyond. Yeah. For now, I am TFG1
Mike with... Nightwing, Aaron Ross. Thank you
for listening. Until next time.
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