The Top 100 Animated Series: 75-51 | Part 3 – The 15th Anniversary Countdown

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of Podcasts. It's time. The countdown begins.

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The Geekcast Radio Network. Top 100 Dirt Added

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Series. Countdown. Hello and welcome to The Geekcast

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Radio Network's Top 100 Animated Series 15th

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Anniversary 2026 Edition. I'm Steve Megatron

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and joining me in this animated adventure as

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we continue our deep dive into the Top 100 are

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TFG1 Mike. Hello. Optimus Solo. I'm here. And

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DJ Valentine. It's me. So with the first episode

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down and many shows, both expected and unexpected,

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and a lot of upsets in the lineup from the 2011

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edition, we're in for a lot of interesting twists

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and turns. Definitely been more interesting as

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we heard the votes for the 100 through 76 on

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the last episode. With only one master ceremony

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here, knowing the full list, I'm a little worried

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of what's to come or not. So with that, take

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it away, Optimus Solo. Well, I thought we would

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start out by looking a little bit at what we

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did last time. Obviously, at the end of these

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records, we're all ready to fall into catatonic

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states. So we don't have a lot of time to to

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discuss them. So we're going to do a quick review

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of last episode and a quick preview of what the

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guys think may or may not happen in this episode.

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And then we'll start revealing 75 through 51.

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So where we stand so far after the first 25 have

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been revealed. First, looking at time periods,

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we had five. cartoons that fell in the pre 1980s

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time period that have already been listed we

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had eight last time from the 1980s only three

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from the 1990s that being our lowest represented

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time period we had five from the 2000s and four

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from 2010 to present steve any surprises on that

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so far we have 1980s reigning supreme so far

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and 90s in last i think that the 90s will kind

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of come back with a vengeance a little bit but

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i think there's still plenty in the 80s that

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haven't been uh bagged here yet so i i think

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we're gonna be pretty heavily in the 80s to 2000s

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and dj i'll get to you in a second when i after

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i go through these because i want to get your

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thoughts as you had a chance to see the list

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of 25 that we revealed last time but you haven't

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had a chance to comment on those so i'll give

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you a a few seconds to think about that before

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i come to you when it comes to channels represented

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so far from the first set of 25. We so far have

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ABC, Reigning Supreme with five animated series.

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Again, these are just the channel that these

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shows debuted on. They may have switched later

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on in their lifespan, but this is where they

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started. We have four from Nickelodeon and four

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syndicated shows that kind of leads the way.

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We have yet to see anything that aired originally

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on MTV or Fox. We only have had one from Adult

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Swim and Disney and WB, two from NBC and two

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from Cartoon Network. And then from a production

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company standpoint, Right now, Marvel, Hanna

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-Barbera, and Nickelodeon are locked in a tie

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at the top for the three shows each that they

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had represented. And we have WB and Disney with

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two, and then a whole bunch with one or zero.

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So we will see if any of those get mentioned

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in today's episode. From a genre representation,

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last episode we revealed five quote -unquote

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superhero films, four anime, what I would consider

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seven kind of more of the younger audience comedy

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-themed centric shows. Probably nine that you

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would consider sci -fi and fantasy. This is not

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counting the superheroes. And then we've had

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zero entries that were what I would consider

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adult comedy so far. We have seen some franchises

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that have already made an appearance. We've seen

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our first Star Wars, Transformers, X -Men, Spider

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-Man, and Batman shows arrive here so far. Mike,

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when it comes to companies, channels, genre,

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anything that surprised you so far in last week's

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episode? I'm going to say it every episode. It

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was a slobber knocker. It it's been crazy and

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I don't know what's going to happen. It really

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has been. And it's one of those things where

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you just don't know. And the going back and just

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looking at specifically the production companies

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and the channels, it's like, you really don't

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have that now because. Disney owns everything.

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Warner Brothers owns everything else. For now.

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But you know what I mean? You don't have your

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Ruby Spears. You don't have your Deke. You don't

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have your Delvana. You don't have your mainframe.

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MTV doesn't do anything other than reality friggin'

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crap. You know what I mean? You don't have the

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variety that we grew up with, whether it be 40s,

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50s, 60s, 70s, or the 80s, and even into the

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90s and the 2000s. You don't have all of that

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nowadays in the current generation. You have

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Disney and their conglomerate of every monopoly

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that they own. And then you have Warner Brothers

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and maybe Paramount in a close second. And if

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they don't get bought by Warner Brothers or vice

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versa. For the purpose of this, if it is streaming

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on like a Disney Prime, I am counting that as

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Disney or things of that nature. So if it's a

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direct correlation to the streaming purpose,

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I do include that. We did talk about in the introduction

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episode that there was 27 shows from 15 years

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ago that did not. we're not able to repeat into

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our top 100. So we have 27 new shows that made

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the top 100 this time around. Obviously, that's

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somewhat expected with 15 more years worth of

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animated series to choose from. Out of those

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27 new shows to appear, we saw 12 of them in

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last week's episode. So 12 out of the 24 have

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already shown up. I don't know if that's surprising

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or not that they're on this end. Usually we think

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about this first episode where we do 100 through

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76 as kind of... If we were to name each episode,

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that would be the wildcard one, right? 100 to

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76, it's interesting to see what sneaks in. Sometimes

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there's some that have more of a cult following

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or a niche audience that are able to sneak into

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that section. We get into today's list, and it's

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usually more about do they belong on this side

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of 50 or the other side of 50 type deal, but

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it starts to get a little bit more expected than

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obviously with the top 50. Mostly expected, it's

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just a debate on where they should fall within

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that. So that's kind of how these usually end

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up kind of pairing out. We've also talked about

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shows that either we didn't rank last time, shows

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that we did rank that fell or gained ground,

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or those shows that did receive votes 15 years

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ago but not enough to make the countdown that

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for some reason 15 years later have gained enough

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traction to end up on the countdown. So that's

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something we'll kind of keep track of as we go

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as well. week's episode we had like i said 12

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new ones today we're going to have 11 new ones

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so that's 23 out of the 27 so we'll only see

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four in the top 50 that appeared that we did

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not rank last time around and last week's episode

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we had four that were not ranked 15 years ago

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today we're going to have five last week we had

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one two three four five six seven we had eight

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that received votes 15 years ago, but not enough

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to make the countdown, that gained enough to

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make it this time. We're going to only see about

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1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 this time around that have climbed

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up. Last episode, we saw two shows that increased

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their rankings. So they climbed up the rankings.

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That was Jem, who climbed six spots, and Woody

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Woodpecker's show, which climbed eight spots.

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We're going to see one, two, three, four, five,

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six shows that climb in the rankings this time

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around. So DJ, you've had a chance to review

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numbers 100 through 76. Give us your thoughts.

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Anything that surprised you or what were your

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immediate reactions? I was looking at the list

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earlier today and I was like, some of the stuff

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I was very happy about. One of the things I was

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kind of disappointed in. And then the other thing

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I was, like, surprised by, one of the things

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I was very happy about was X -Men 97 being on

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this early because I have it really high on my

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list because usually you get DJ, I'm thinking

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myself as a third person, you get a lot of, like,

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love from me if I thought you were going to be

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trash. You are actually very, very good. And

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X -Men 97 coming into it, I was kind of like,

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yeah, whatever, man. What are you guys going

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to do? It's this, it's never going to work. And

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then I'm watching the first episode. I'm like,

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do I like Cyclops now? I think I like Cyclops

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now. Oh my God. Storm is cool. So yeah, for that

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show, just, I don't want to say underrated. It's,

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it's playing. It's all about the continuation

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of the original show for it to be as good as

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it was, was I was like, I'm, I'm, I want more

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people to watch this. I was happy, very happy

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about that. A little disappointed that spectacular

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Spider -Man is so low. Cause I think that's the

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best, maybe top three iteration of Spider -Man.

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in terms of writing i've ever seen i'm talking

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about live action anything spectacular spider

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-man is fan if you're a spider -man fan you have

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not seen spectacular spider -man i don't think

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you're gonna get much better than that i was

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hoping it'd be a little bit higher and then uh

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the thing that surprised me was i was like huh

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really They got a Danger Mouse on here. I thought

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it was only me that liked Danger Mouse. I love

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Danger Mouse. I thought I was in the Danger Mouse.

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I'm in the Danger Mouse hive, man. Me and Penfold.

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Love me some Danger Mouse. But yeah, when I saw

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it, I was like, hey, Danger Mouse made it. I

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was very happy. Very happy for my boy. I love

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that car. I love the yellow car, man. What's

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the name of the frog? Is it Flint? No. gosh you're

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trying to a villain i forget the the oh god i

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forget his name i just remember penfold and danger

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mouse but yeah i i used to watch thames or thames

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uh programming all the time and uh off of nickelodeon

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i was uh i was alive i was greenback right there

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you go that's his name yeah i did that for the

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record i know i can't prove this but i did not

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look that up you're correct I heard the word

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grovel, and I figured out what it meant, because

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there was an episode where there's a robot where

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they keep saying grovel, but he thinks he means

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gravel. He had to be there. But yes, Danger Mouse

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being on the list, I was very happy about. So

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yes, everything I see on this list, the... If

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you had to boot one out that was like, maybe

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this isn't top 100 worthy, what would it be?

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Oh man, probably Legend of Korra. I hate Legend

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of Korra. I actually brought that up to my kids,

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and they're like, that is the worst one. It is

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not good. I mean, you got to understand what

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you're coming off of. You're coming off of probably

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Nickelodeon's best animated show ever in terms

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of lore, story, writing, performance. And then

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you do Legend of Korra and you're coming from

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like, like I can name six characters on the original

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show that are likable. I can name maybe one and

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a half are likable on Legend of Korra. It's not

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the title character. So yes, I was kind of like

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a Legend of Korra on this one. We'll have to

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see if any of those come up this time around

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that we think maybe should not be represented

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or things of that nature. Another thing that

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I thought was interesting that kind of came up

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over the course of last episode that we'll have

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to see if it continues is the idea of what you

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think holds more weight. And I think the two

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things that we have seen come up that are paired

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against each other is impact or... historical

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significance versus like standing the test of

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time entertainment or quality and i think like

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everybody views those and weighs those differently

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and i think it's going to be interesting to see

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how that plays as we go through more because

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we do have shows that not just old shows but

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or classic shows but just shows that had like

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a very high impact on whether it be a subgenre

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or a time period or influenced a lot of more

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shows that came after it and do we weigh that

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higher or is it more important that regardless

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of the impact you have something that is just

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you know well written well acted well performed

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well you know the whole kit and caboodle as far

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as quality goes and i think sometimes you get

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the the unicorn that has both of those things

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but sometimes it's one or the other so it's going

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to be interesting to see where you guys kind

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of fall as we go through because we talked about

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that a little bit with things like um let's see

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we had last time around i'm trying to think we

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had like speed racer in a way was kind of like

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that historical significance how rewatchable

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is it we had the adventures of gummy bears when

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it comes to like the disney afternoon and things

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of that nature with the same type of argument

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super friends comes to mind right like very impactful

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for you know a couple generations worth of kids

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that hadn't seen superheroes represented that

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way does it you know is it the same quality of

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a batman animated series of course not but like

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when it when there's more gray area what do we

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weigh more on that uh when it comes to some of

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those things dragon ball we had the original

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dragon ball on here right so like do we give

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it extra points for being as influential as it

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is or do we think you know a series that come

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later that are higher quality outweigh it dj

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what do you kind of think of some of those like

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dichotomies it's it's hard because you're when

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you you break that up. I'm like this. Sometimes

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I'll watch a show and I'm like, this show is

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too important. When I was making this lit my

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list, I was like, show is like my, in my blood.

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And there's a show that's like, well, this I'm

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grown up and I've appreciated things like writing

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and story structure. And I'm like, it's blows

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these things out of the way. But then there's

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another one. This one makes me feel good. I like

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putting this on him. It gives me, because speed

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racer is kind of like, if you rewatch it now,

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it's kind of like, The importance of it is trumping

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everything, but in terms of rewatchability, I'm

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not going to probably sit down and watch Speed

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Racer, but there's episodes of things that I

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won't say that's going to probably be in the

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top 10 that I will rewatch, and it still holds

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up, and that's good. And it influenced me, like

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that unicorn you're talking about. So I guess

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I was looking for unicorns when I was making

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my list. Good thing to look for. When I was younger,

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I'd probably be looking for more feel -good,

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but now that I'm older, I'm looking for more

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story structures, more like this is way even

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ahead of its time in terms of I can watch this

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and have somebody who knows nothing about it

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watch it and have them appreciate it. Then, you

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know, let's just say something silly. There's

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like a silly show that might make me feel good,

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but I can't justify this right right it's just

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for me but yeah yeah so i i think i'm looking

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for unicorns but most of the time now if i it

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was 20 years ago i wouldn't be looking for story

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structure but me i'm looking for those stories

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those stories that because that's all these things

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are all entertainment is is who's telling the

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best story with the best stuff yeah pretty much

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true pretty much right so if you're telling me

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a story that i love and i can come back and enjoy

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it and then i can share it and have somebody

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who's skeptical go Oh, you know what? I didn't

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want to watch it, but it is pretty good. If I

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can get that out of a show, then you are unicorn

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and I will appreciate you. Why are you talking

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about Mike like that? Anyways, just to give reference.

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My story is one of the worst stories in human

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history, so shut up. Anyways, like we said last

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time, this is a compilation of 44 different individuals

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that contributed to this list from all walks

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of podcast, website, blog, YouTube channels,

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including some. Actual cartoon historians, Jerry

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Beck, Greg Airbar. We have Tom Ruger, Buzz Dixon,

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Flint Dilley. They all submitted lists. And I

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know I'm forgetting a couple of folks that I'll

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kick myself. Keith Scott. So like we've had a

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variety of folks and we were interested to see

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like as we expanded our age range, like we talked

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about last time, you know, we did this 15 years

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ago and we were probably all within the same

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generation ish. And this time we're ranging,

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uh, you know, seven decades and we have people

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as far up there into their seventies that submitted

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lists and, you know, on down through, you know,

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uh, people that aren't even 10 yet. So, um, it's,

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it's interesting to see kind of how this will

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go. And before I let Steve kind of give a final

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thought on what he expects from today's episode,

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I will mention a couple of things. We have 44

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lists. That means there was 44 number one rankings.

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Uh, we've mentioned in the intro episode that

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three of them didn't make the countdown. We'll

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have to wait and see how that works out. But

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there was three people's number one that did

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not make the top 100. We didn't see any in last

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episode. So that number 100 through 76 did not

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see anybody's number one. Today we will see two.

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So we will see two of our reveals that did appear

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on somebody's number one list. And although we

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did have three ties that we had to settle on

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air last time, we will have zero ties this time

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around. Steve, what are your thoughts going into

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this episode? Anything you are curious about,

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expecting or anticipating? uh for one we don't

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we don't do ties uh uh no i i'm i'm unsure what

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to expect just because i as we were doing the

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tally for the last episode i was going through

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and you were telling like okay it was this number

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on the old list or it was this number you know

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and and i was going oh crud like Some of these

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moved pretty randomly, you know, from way out

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of the list to the list or out of the, you know,

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from the list out, you know. And so I really

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don't know what to expect. I'm hoping that some

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of the shows in my top 10 wait until later, preferably

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in the last episode. Yeah. But yeah, I mean.

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I sincerely don't think my number one is in this

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episode. It might be in one of the next two.

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I think for sure in the final one. I don't think

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it'll land where I think it will, but I'm looking

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forward to where this goes. The biggest movers

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we saw last time, we saw two shows that ranked

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originally 15 years ago 349th and 289th. in speed

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racer and rocco's modern life that climbed that

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far to get into the countdown we will not see

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anything like that today the uh the highest somebody

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will climb is 85 spots in order to get into the

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countdown so nothing as extreme as we saw last

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time and with that being said i think we've kind

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of teased it enough so let's get right into the

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75 through 51 and start revealing these shows

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75 All finished, sir. Thanks, shoeshine boy.

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You're humble and lovable. Bless you, sir. Underdog.

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All right, we are starting in the past. Let's

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start back in 1964 for our number 75 list. And

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Trent here, this was not ranked last time. This

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will be our highest climber. It went from 185th

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15 years ago to 75th. this time around it was

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on three of the lists that we kind of looked

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at when we were trying to compile the nominees

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for this with 919 points we are talking about

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underdog now i will give a little thought and

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then i'll let you guys go i have prepared some

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kind of pro and cons about most shows i won't

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share them with everyone but underdog is one

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of the earliest successful examples of genre

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parody within animation specifically taking the

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superhero format and making it comedic long before

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superheroes became dominant in pop culture. And

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it was a kind of represented a time where animation

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was transitioning into appointment television

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for kids, which kind of made it a foundation

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of serialized character recognition and TV animation.

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Some will say that it's overly repetitive, though,

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structurally simple and limited when it comes

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to animations. Does the historical inclusion

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of kind of what it represented for genre parody

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things and appointment television TV outweigh

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the fact that maybe it's not, uh, hasn't aged

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maybe as well as some of the other ones. DJ,

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since you're the guest, we'll start with you.

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What do you think about underdog? I number a

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hundred. There we go. I remember underdog. I,

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I, I, I, I watched it, but I was, I think back

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when I was. younger you have like these blocks

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before you go to school of cartoons i think underdog

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was like stuck in between rocky and bullwinkle

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and probably another i think it was secret score

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i cannot remember but i was like once rocky and

00:22:07.410 --> 00:22:09.309
bullwinkle went off the air i was kind of like

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all right man you're not gonna get better than

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this and then it didn't really yeah i like the

00:22:14.950 --> 00:22:18.890
theme song the theme song is great but your description

00:22:18.890 --> 00:22:22.299
of it i'm just like yeah that sounds dang accurate

00:22:22.299 --> 00:22:26.599
because it's like it didn't give me enough for

00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:29.559
me to like i i remember it it's like you know

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that night in vegas you go to you just want to

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like you remember it you don't talk about it

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too often you don't tell anybody especially anybody

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important in your family because you don't want

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anybody to know that you actually watched underdog

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very very drunk uh so yes this underdog 100 is

00:22:43.420 --> 00:22:48.730
fine 100 75 is really high for me but yeah I

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had it really low because it's more of a memory

00:22:52.849 --> 00:22:56.369
than a I enjoy the show kind of thing. I did

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not have this one ranked personally. I don't

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know if we may say this is a product of including

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an older demographic and some of our contributors

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are not. We'll have to kind of wait and see how

00:23:07.450 --> 00:23:09.009
that plays out. Steve, what do you think about

00:23:09.009 --> 00:23:11.789
Underdog? I actually think it's kind of funny

00:23:11.789 --> 00:23:14.690
it's on here. I didn't list this go around in

00:23:14.690 --> 00:23:17.309
the list, but I know I did the last time. uh

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and i know for a fact my kids listed it uh i

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have their list yeah i i have their list pulled

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up just because i submitted them for them and

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they i was quite surprised the shows that they

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picked uh my my oldest actually had it in his

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top uh i think his top 45 yeah it was like number

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44 and the other kid had my youngest had it in

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his in his top 15. Really? Oh, wow. Actually,

00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:57.940
it was number three. He's a big Underdog fan.

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I like that they like some of the classics, that's

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for sure. Mike, what do you think about Underdog?

00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:07.380
Go ahead, Steve. I was going to say, I really

00:24:07.380 --> 00:24:10.359
enjoy the show for what it is for the time, but

00:24:10.359 --> 00:24:12.640
I think that it's best left in nostalgia for

00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:16.369
me. because as dj mentioned it is kind of repetitive

00:24:16.369 --> 00:24:18.950
i like the theme song which is kind of the case

00:24:18.950 --> 00:24:23.930
with most older cartoons but um but yeah i think

00:24:23.930 --> 00:24:26.769
that the the show kind of deserves to be here

00:24:26.769 --> 00:24:28.750
plus it's had you know different resurgences

00:24:28.750 --> 00:24:32.890
over the years yeah for sure Mike, agree or disagree?

00:24:33.069 --> 00:24:34.569
It seems like three of us are saying this may

00:24:34.569 --> 00:24:38.210
be too high. Can we flip -flop 75 and 85 and

00:24:38.210 --> 00:24:41.029
put Wacky Races here and put Underdog in the

00:24:41.029 --> 00:24:44.930
previous episode? Can we do a trade? Get my general

00:24:44.930 --> 00:24:49.809
manager on the line. That's right. Yeah, I agree

00:24:49.809 --> 00:24:52.630
with what Steve and DJ are saying. And honestly,

00:24:52.890 --> 00:24:57.130
outside of the fact that Shoe Shine Boy is Underdog,

00:24:58.089 --> 00:25:00.250
I don't remember anything. Don't give away his

00:25:00.250 --> 00:25:03.170
secret identity, man. Come on. But I don't care.

00:25:03.309 --> 00:25:06.490
I don't remember anything about the damn cartoon.

00:25:07.630 --> 00:25:12.450
I don't remember anything. Not even the theme

00:25:12.450 --> 00:25:18.910
song? Like, barely. Okay. Wow. Like, I really

00:25:18.910 --> 00:25:21.609
don't. Like, I was trying to think, and I'm literally

00:25:21.609 --> 00:25:24.839
just sitting here. I don't have. chrome open

00:25:24.839 --> 00:25:28.980
i don't have any tabs open i'm just sitting here

00:25:28.980 --> 00:25:31.640
with the document pulled up with the list pulled

00:25:31.640 --> 00:25:34.319
up that's it obviously i don't have the list

00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:37.640
i'm writing them down as we go but it's one of

00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:41.000
those things where i remember watching underdog

00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:44.220
as a kid i remember liking the cartoon as a kid

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but as we're sitting here discussing it i'm More

00:25:50.500 --> 00:25:53.839
remembering the anthill mob trying to kidnap

00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:56.500
Penelope Pitstop than anything, or protecting

00:25:56.500 --> 00:25:58.700
Penelope. I don't know what the hell. They're

00:25:58.700 --> 00:26:00.619
doing something with Penelope Pitstop over there

00:26:00.619 --> 00:26:02.839
in the Wacky Races. I don't know. Let's keep

00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:06.299
this rated. No, don't do that. Name like Penelope

00:26:06.299 --> 00:26:08.299
Pitstop. That could mean a lot of stuff, all

00:26:08.299 --> 00:26:11.099
right? In Vegas. I was putting it out there.

00:26:12.460 --> 00:26:14.900
You're the one that keeps mentioning Vegas, Mr.

00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:17.500
Gimbler. You know her name, bro. I'm just telling

00:26:17.500 --> 00:26:20.819
you. All right. We got to separate these two.

00:26:20.859 --> 00:26:26.380
Let's move on to the next. 74. I can't tell you

00:26:26.380 --> 00:26:28.319
what an intense thrill it is to be on your show.

00:26:28.460 --> 00:26:31.500
Sure you could. Well, I could tell you, but then

00:26:31.500 --> 00:26:34.039
I'd have to kill you. Tell him now. Tell him.

00:26:34.339 --> 00:26:37.819
Hey, Zorak, you. Shut up. All right. I thought

00:26:37.819 --> 00:26:39.539
it might be fun on a couple of these for me to

00:26:39.539 --> 00:26:40.900
read the description and see if you guys can

00:26:40.900 --> 00:26:42.519
guess which show. So I'm going to put DJ on the

00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:43.920
spot with this one. I was going to move into

00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:49.980
our number 74 here. This show is a format disruptor.

00:26:50.180 --> 00:26:53.059
It essentially created the tone and identity

00:26:53.059 --> 00:26:56.440
of Adult Swim and pioneered a style of humor

00:26:56.440 --> 00:26:59.440
that feels incredibly modern with awkward pauses,

00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:02.740
surreal edits, and anti -comedy. Repurposed Hanna

00:27:02.740 --> 00:27:06.380
-Barbera characters introduced the idea of remixing

00:27:06.380 --> 00:27:08.940
existing IP into something entirely new, a concept

00:27:08.940 --> 00:27:11.519
that's now everywhere in internet culture. It's

00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:13.940
one of the clearest examples of animation influencing

00:27:13.940 --> 00:27:18.250
comedy beyond animation. That could be three

00:27:18.250 --> 00:27:20.269
shows. All right. That could be a little bit

00:27:20.269 --> 00:27:23.670
more here. The argument against it would be that

00:27:23.670 --> 00:27:25.910
it's maybe too niche or experimental to rank

00:27:25.910 --> 00:27:28.250
alongside more fully realized animated series.

00:27:28.829 --> 00:27:31.150
So the argument may be, is this either wildly

00:27:31.150 --> 00:27:33.430
underrated for its influence or properly placed

00:27:33.430 --> 00:27:35.470
because its appeal isn't universal? This show

00:27:35.470 --> 00:27:37.710
debuted in, it's going to be our fourth entry

00:27:37.710 --> 00:27:41.210
into the 90s. We're talking about 1994. DJ, do

00:27:41.210 --> 00:27:43.690
you have a guess? I have three. God, it could

00:27:43.690 --> 00:27:47.400
be. It could be Brack Show. It could be Space

00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:50.680
Ghost Coast to Coast. I'm going to go Space Ghost

00:27:50.680 --> 00:27:52.519
Coast to Coast. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding,

00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:57.279
ding. All right. Space Ghost Coast to Coast aired

00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:01.500
on Cartoon Network. And DJ, you guessed it. So

00:28:01.500 --> 00:28:03.220
you get to go first here. What was what's your

00:28:03.220 --> 00:28:05.299
thoughts? Space Ghost Coast to Coast. All the

00:28:05.299 --> 00:28:07.400
stuff I read actually true. It doesn't hold up

00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:11.440
and doesn't belong. I had to like grow up to

00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:12.880
appreciate it. Cause when I first, I was like

00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:15.240
this, I like space go. Cause I, I remember space

00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.779
ghost. I lived through space ghost. So I was

00:28:18.779 --> 00:28:22.039
like, okay, take in space. Cause this is, this

00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:26.640
didn't happen really. This show, what you described

00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:30.180
to me, I don't remember it ever happening where

00:28:30.180 --> 00:28:33.960
they take a cartoon. You remember now it's a,

00:28:33.980 --> 00:28:36.769
he's a talk show host. And he's interviewing

00:28:36.769 --> 00:28:39.289
real people like Conan O 'Brien. It's like, what,

00:28:39.349 --> 00:28:42.509
what's going on? So now it's like, of course

00:28:42.509 --> 00:28:44.210
that makes sense. Yeah. It's, it's quirky in

00:28:44.210 --> 00:28:46.490
a weird way, but at the time it was like, what

00:28:46.490 --> 00:28:49.809
is this? What's going on? But when I rewatch

00:28:49.809 --> 00:28:53.490
it now and I'm like, this was way, way ahead

00:28:53.490 --> 00:28:55.910
of its time, I think. So yeah, space goes, goes

00:28:55.910 --> 00:28:58.089
to coast. One of those shows that I wasn't a

00:28:58.089 --> 00:28:59.890
humongous fan of, but I completely appreciate

00:28:59.890 --> 00:29:02.069
it for what it did, especially for adult slim.

00:29:02.589 --> 00:29:05.670
Definitely. And for the genre, as you described,

00:29:05.950 --> 00:29:08.809
it's light years ahead of us. There was nothing

00:29:08.809 --> 00:29:11.569
that I can think of at the time that was like

00:29:11.569 --> 00:29:15.869
that ever. So, yeah. Last time we had this ranked

00:29:15.869 --> 00:29:18.150
number 15 years ago, it was ranked number 76.

00:29:18.349 --> 00:29:21.210
It has moved up two spots to number 74. Steve,

00:29:21.289 --> 00:29:22.769
what do you think about Space Ghost Coast to

00:29:22.769 --> 00:29:25.849
Coast? I think it was a great show. I enjoyed

00:29:25.849 --> 00:29:28.289
even just the original Space Ghost. And then

00:29:28.289 --> 00:29:31.450
I watched this one and the animation was kind

00:29:31.450 --> 00:29:36.730
of goofy. The banter between Space Ghost, Zorak,

00:29:36.849 --> 00:29:41.049
and Brack were hilarious on every episode, plus

00:29:41.049 --> 00:29:45.309
the special guests. It did make it very awkward

00:29:45.309 --> 00:29:48.450
in certain scenarios, but it was... I don't know.

00:29:49.349 --> 00:29:52.529
I think it's one of those experimental shows

00:29:52.529 --> 00:29:56.269
from the 90s that kind of fit that era very well.

00:29:57.170 --> 00:29:59.329
It appeared on five of the different lists that

00:29:59.329 --> 00:30:02.799
we looked at, and it... As far as the lists that

00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:05.099
were submitted, it appeared on 19 of the 44.

00:30:05.700 --> 00:30:08.019
So a decent number there. Mike, any thoughts

00:30:08.019 --> 00:30:12.079
on Space Ghost Coast to Coast? Was it a time

00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:15.900
where animation was like, oh, look, live action's

00:30:15.900 --> 00:30:19.119
been doing this for decades. Let's have animation

00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:23.079
get in on late night. Let's see what animation

00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:27.119
can do with late night. And let's do it with,

00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:31.900
yes. I was going to say it is more. entertaining

00:30:31.900 --> 00:30:35.119
than what we're getting now though well yeah

00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:44.319
duh of course like literally look i just shared

00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:50.839
the uh um star wars fallon thing from years ago

00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:53.279
that's and more entertaining than what we're

00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:56.980
getting now anyway the point is at the time when

00:30:56.980 --> 00:31:01.509
cartoon network was just kind of getting their

00:31:01.509 --> 00:31:04.130
feet wet in things in the 90s and again this

00:31:04.130 --> 00:31:10.990
is the 90s folks the the 90s had its own groove

00:31:10.990 --> 00:31:15.009
the 90s was doing so many different things to

00:31:15.009 --> 00:31:18.170
experiment to figure out what the 90s wanted

00:31:18.170 --> 00:31:21.509
to be and this was just one of those things and

00:31:21.509 --> 00:31:26.230
putting 60s and 70s hannah barbara characters

00:31:26.230 --> 00:31:32.160
in the 90s on late night especially especially

00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:35.400
space ghost like wow okay who's gonna put that

00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:40.680
guy on late night like like wow cool uh thank

00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:44.980
god it wasn't blue falcon and uh dino mutt oh

00:31:44.980 --> 00:31:47.240
he still moved up he still moved up two spaces

00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:50.480
this time no i'm not saying it's a bad thing

00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:52.640
i'm saying it's a good thing i love space ghost

00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:55.740
ghost ghost awesome okay so it seems like we're

00:31:55.740 --> 00:31:58.579
consistent 76 15 years ago 74 this time around

00:31:59.339 --> 00:32:01.319
I guess that's probably where it belongs. So

00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:10.839
let's see what comes after it. All right, that

00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:12.779
was fun last time trying to get DJ to guess.

00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:14.599
So I'm going to open it up for anybody on this

00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:19.640
one. So for number 73, here's my little diatribe

00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:21.880
on this one. Animation purists may argue it belongs

00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:24.779
higher due to its technical brilliance. Others

00:32:24.779 --> 00:32:27.119
may rank it lower because it doesn't meet modern

00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:29.910
expectations of storytelling. A near -perfect

00:32:29.910 --> 00:32:33.990
example of visual storytelling and timing, proving

00:32:33.990 --> 00:32:36.869
animation can thrive without dialogue. Its reliance

00:32:36.869 --> 00:32:39.349
on music expression and pacing makes it universally

00:32:39.349 --> 00:32:42.849
accessible across cultures and generations. DJ?

00:32:43.250 --> 00:32:46.069
Ooh, maybe I'm wrong. I'm going to say Primal?

00:32:46.950 --> 00:32:49.609
Nope. It is going to be an older show. We're

00:32:49.609 --> 00:32:54.130
going to go all the way back to 1969, our second

00:32:54.130 --> 00:32:58.500
trip to the 60s this time. Debuted on NBC. Back

00:32:58.500 --> 00:33:00.519
in this time period. Mike or Steven? Oh, I know

00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:03.299
what it is. Tom and Jerry? Nope. No, it's not

00:33:03.299 --> 00:33:06.279
Tom and Jerry. The Pink Panther? It is the Pink

00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:10.599
Panthers. I'm in here at number 73. I had this

00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:13.420
one ranked 31, actually, because I do put a lot

00:33:13.420 --> 00:33:16.359
of emphasis on the historical parts. I was a

00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:19.200
history major and a history teacher, so I guess

00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:22.019
that's what's coming out there. It fell, though,

00:33:22.019 --> 00:33:24.759
quite a bit from last time. Last time, 15 years

00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:28.220
ago, we had it ranked 18 spots higher. so this

00:33:28.220 --> 00:33:30.960
time it's all the way down at 73 i'm happy it

00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:33.920
still stayed on the countdown so i'm not going

00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:35.980
to complain too much mike what do you think about

00:33:35.980 --> 00:33:38.700
the pink panther show how many lists was it on

00:33:38.700 --> 00:33:44.079
it was on the 20 of the 44 wow was it on my list

00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:46.839
i think i don't know 72 as a matter of fact so

00:33:49.979 --> 00:33:52.619
you're pulling steve guesses out of your ass

00:33:52.619 --> 00:33:55.380
over there i'm pretty good all right yeah yeah

00:33:55.380 --> 00:34:01.119
yeah no i i love had your vitamins oh boy i love

00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:03.559
the pink panther i love everything about the

00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:08.039
show uh it's so fun i especially love the ant

00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:10.679
and the aardvark they're hilarious absolutely

00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:13.969
love that And yeah, no, I absolutely love it.

00:34:13.989 --> 00:34:16.949
I do wish it was higher, though. I really do

00:34:16.949 --> 00:34:20.949
think it's at least top 50, maybe 48, 47, something

00:34:20.949 --> 00:34:25.610
like that. Do you agree or disagree? I think

00:34:25.610 --> 00:34:28.949
it deserves to be on the list. I think it's nice

00:34:28.949 --> 00:34:31.630
that it still showed up, even though it's higher

00:34:31.630 --> 00:34:34.289
up. It just means that the caliber of what's

00:34:34.289 --> 00:34:36.929
coming is going to be that much greater compared

00:34:36.929 --> 00:34:41.809
to the previous list. It's not too big of a change.

00:34:42.929 --> 00:34:45.849
Right. But it also has spawned a lot of different

00:34:45.849 --> 00:34:49.949
marketing materials and animated and other things

00:34:49.949 --> 00:34:53.070
that have kind of had plays off of it with live

00:34:53.070 --> 00:34:59.889
action stuff. So I think it deserves it. DJ,

00:34:59.989 --> 00:35:02.429
you only missed it by one spot. So I'm assuming

00:35:02.429 --> 00:35:04.969
you think it's pretty well placed. This was on

00:35:04.969 --> 00:35:08.969
TNT, right? After Monty Python's Flying Circus

00:35:08.969 --> 00:35:12.369
back when I first saw the show. And then they

00:35:12.369 --> 00:35:14.489
made movies about it. And I was like, where's

00:35:14.489 --> 00:35:19.849
the Pink Panther going to show up? Where's the

00:35:19.849 --> 00:35:22.469
Pink Panther? They lied to me. But no, I remember

00:35:22.469 --> 00:35:26.150
Pink Panther. It was good. It was one of those

00:35:26.150 --> 00:35:31.949
clever sight gag stuff where you can tell a story

00:35:31.949 --> 00:35:35.059
without any dialogue. I mean, a lot of tom and

00:35:35.059 --> 00:35:37.400
jerry and the roadrunner and riley coyote that

00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:40.400
works too but i think this was a little bit more

00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:44.619
uh clever i was i was a highbrow i'd say clever

00:35:44.619 --> 00:35:46.559
and some of the stuff they were doing yeah i

00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:48.360
think you used music and a little bit more than

00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:50.639
those other ones did too it's a chain smoking

00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:53.960
cartoon guys come on how many chains do we got

00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:56.139
here i think there is a something to be said

00:35:56.139 --> 00:35:58.150
though that by doing that it does definitely

00:35:58.150 --> 00:36:00.949
make it more accessible across languages, cultures,

00:36:01.090 --> 00:36:02.789
generations, and things of that nature, because

00:36:02.789 --> 00:36:05.130
you're not relying on any of that to, to move

00:36:05.130 --> 00:36:09.429
the narrative, so to speak. So I could see that,

00:36:09.429 --> 00:36:11.389
you know, being something that would work on

00:36:11.389 --> 00:36:14.230
an international basis as well. So we've spent

00:36:14.230 --> 00:36:16.550
some time in the past. Let's see if we continue

00:36:16.550 --> 00:36:26.219
that trend or not with our next entry. 72. So

00:36:26.219 --> 00:36:28.500
you guys might not be having fun getting put

00:36:28.500 --> 00:36:30.559
on the spot, but I'm finding this fun, so I'm

00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:31.960
going to stick with it for a little while. So

00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:35.199
our number 72, I'm going to read a couple things

00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:37.340
about it. This is, like I talked about in the

00:36:37.340 --> 00:36:39.800
intro here, a classic case of historical importance

00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:44.480
versus modern watchability. It can feel slow

00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:46.420
and dated. The humor doesn't always translate

00:36:46.420 --> 00:36:50.099
to modern audiences, but this show would be a

00:36:50.099 --> 00:36:52.719
turning point in animation history. It's the

00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:55.469
first animated series to win an Emmy. and it

00:36:55.469 --> 00:36:57.849
helped legitimize television animation as a serious

00:36:57.849 --> 00:37:00.429
medium. Also played a major role in shifting

00:37:00.429 --> 00:37:02.869
animation from theatrical shorts to TV -first

00:37:02.869 --> 00:37:09.730
content. This series debuted in 1958. Anybody

00:37:09.730 --> 00:37:14.730
have a guess? Flintstones? No. 50s? No, no. It

00:37:14.730 --> 00:37:24.869
is from Hanna -Barbera. Is it Yogi Bear? It came

00:37:24.869 --> 00:37:29.690
before Yogi Bear, kind of. Yogi Bear was introduced

00:37:29.690 --> 00:37:32.090
through it, I think. Huckleberry Hound? Yes,

00:37:32.090 --> 00:37:35.570
the Huckleberry Hound show here at number 72.

00:37:35.989 --> 00:37:39.349
So it beat the Pink Panther show by three points.

00:37:39.389 --> 00:37:40.809
But yeah, it was the first animated series to

00:37:40.809 --> 00:37:43.949
win an Emmy and definitely a turning point in

00:37:43.949 --> 00:37:47.610
animation history. But like we said, as far as

00:37:47.610 --> 00:37:49.489
quality goes or modern watchability, I guess

00:37:49.489 --> 00:37:52.119
it depends. I know for me and Mike, like we can

00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:53.860
watch it probably no problem, but I don't know

00:37:53.860 --> 00:37:55.519
if you show it to a younger audience, if it works

00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:57.460
or not. Uh, Steve, we'll start with you this

00:37:57.460 --> 00:37:59.300
time. Huckleberry hound show. I had it ranked

00:37:59.300 --> 00:38:02.480
at 30. I had it 30 and I had pink Panther 31

00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:04.000
and they're coming right next to each other here

00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:08.159
at 73 and 72. What do you think of, uh, I had

00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:11.500
this in my top 100, so I'm pleasantly surprised

00:38:11.500 --> 00:38:15.239
that it's here. Uh, and it's enjoyable and it

00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:22.199
is a staple of old animation. A lot of the tone

00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:25.280
of the shows that would come out after took it

00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:30.280
from this show alone. And it wasn't until much

00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:32.820
later that there was another evolution in animation.

00:38:36.860 --> 00:38:40.199
It's out of the shows that made our top 115 years

00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:42.840
ago that also made it this time around. For today's

00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:45.280
episode, it's The Biggest Climber. It was 94th.

00:38:45.739 --> 00:38:47.619
15 years ago and it's climbed all the way up

00:38:47.619 --> 00:38:49.920
to 72nd so even though it didn't hit 30th like

00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:52.340
i had it ranked i am happy that it climbed 22

00:38:52.340 --> 00:38:54.179
spots mike what do you think about huckleberry

00:38:54.179 --> 00:39:02.739
hound oh my darling no there you go there you

00:39:02.739 --> 00:39:06.219
go that's that's it right there there you go

00:39:06.219 --> 00:39:10.559
good old clementine uh i i love huckleberry hound

00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:14.900
once again it just that those classic hannah

00:39:14.900 --> 00:39:19.019
barbaric characters just stand the test of time

00:39:19.019 --> 00:39:25.539
and uh was it the steely blue -eyed stranger

00:39:25.539 --> 00:39:28.320
or whatever he calls himself and several other

00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:35.420
things just absolutely love it just so good all

00:39:35.420 --> 00:39:39.420
the adventures he got to go on was so fun and

00:39:39.420 --> 00:39:48.639
again it's a Now, I know these are two Hanna

00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:50.739
-Barbera characters, but I don't remember if

00:39:50.739 --> 00:39:52.860
he goes up against them or if it's somebody else

00:39:52.860 --> 00:39:55.139
in the Hanna -Barbera. Doesn't he go up against

00:39:55.139 --> 00:40:00.940
the crows, Heckle and Jekyll? I don't know if

00:40:00.940 --> 00:40:05.000
they ever did or not. I'd have to go back through

00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:06.760
some of the compilation shows and things of that

00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:11.690
nature to see. But anyway, just, yeah, Huckleberry

00:40:11.690 --> 00:40:15.449
is awesome. Huckleberry rules. So, DJ, we ended

00:40:15.449 --> 00:40:18.230
last week's episode with the Woody Woodpecker

00:40:18.230 --> 00:40:19.949
show. And now we've started off and we've had

00:40:19.949 --> 00:40:22.730
Underdog, the Pink Panther show, and the Huckleberry

00:40:22.730 --> 00:40:25.510
Hound show. Are you surprised at this foursome

00:40:25.510 --> 00:40:29.050
of kind of classic shows? Or do you think they're

00:40:29.050 --> 00:40:30.670
all deserving? What does it mean for the rest

00:40:30.670 --> 00:40:33.710
of the countdown? For me, for Huckleberry Hound,

00:40:33.730 --> 00:40:36.030
I did watch it. But, I mean, he didn't really.

00:40:37.610 --> 00:40:40.010
rise into my estimation of cartoon characters

00:40:40.010 --> 00:40:43.070
until like he came back like laugh olympics and

00:40:43.070 --> 00:40:47.269
stuff like that so that's when i like liked him

00:40:47.269 --> 00:40:51.610
his own original stuff wasn't like oh i love

00:40:51.610 --> 00:40:53.829
this show it's more like oh i like this character

00:40:53.829 --> 00:40:55.449
but then when he was on like laugh olympics i

00:40:55.449 --> 00:40:59.670
was like oh this guy's great yeah but uh yeah

00:40:59.670 --> 00:41:03.329
so i i guess we're kind of in the classics territory

00:41:03.329 --> 00:41:06.840
we're dealing with the the importance more than

00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:10.739
we're dealing with uh you know the this is a

00:41:10.739 --> 00:41:13.119
fantastic show this is more of a this show makes

00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:15.460
me feel this is the feel -good one for me yeah

00:41:15.460 --> 00:41:19.079
i like it all right let's see where we go to

00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:24.619
next 71. Excellent. So you're not going to talk.

00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:27.400
Then how about a dip in my lava jacuzzi? Look

00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:29.400
at his smug face. You're loving this, aren't

00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:33.000
you? So back at 74, I don't know if I remember

00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:34.739
mentioning it or not, but with Space Ghost, we

00:41:34.739 --> 00:41:37.219
had our first entry in the entire top 100 so

00:41:37.219 --> 00:41:40.099
far. That was more of that adult comedy genre.

00:41:40.420 --> 00:41:44.099
So it took us 27 shows to get to our first one.

00:41:44.380 --> 00:41:46.800
We're going to go back there here for number

00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:48.780
71. So it only took three more picks to get to

00:41:48.780 --> 00:41:52.260
our second. This one is from the 2000s, our first

00:41:52.260 --> 00:41:55.480
entry in the 2000s of this episode. We're going

00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:58.500
to 2005 specifically for an adult swim show here.

00:41:58.659 --> 00:42:03.659
And then at number 71 is Robot Chicken. So Robot

00:42:03.659 --> 00:42:07.340
Chicken, the rapid fire pop culture parody with

00:42:07.340 --> 00:42:09.860
stop motion, self -awareness, reference heavy

00:42:09.860 --> 00:42:12.500
humor. Now, some would say that the show can

00:42:12.500 --> 00:42:15.519
be inconsistent. Some sketches land, others miss.

00:42:16.300 --> 00:42:19.179
comedic influence can't be denied dj you laughed

00:42:19.179 --> 00:42:22.780
first so uh robot chicken what do you think in

00:42:22.780 --> 00:42:26.559
terms of like our my own show that i'm on with

00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:31.780
my two co -hosts i i can't like not give credit

00:42:31.780 --> 00:42:33.460
to robot chicken because we write sketches on

00:42:33.460 --> 00:42:36.760
our show and i gain appreciation on how hard

00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:39.760
that is and they're doing it throughout their

00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:43.559
show we do like two they do like 17 so it's like

00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:47.420
yeah And some of them, when they land, the jokes

00:42:47.420 --> 00:42:52.480
that land kill. Like, there's one that will stay

00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:55.400
with me forever. It is the clown that's jumping

00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:58.579
out of the plane. And he opens the parachute.

00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:01.940
And there's nothing in there. And he goes, happy

00:43:01.940 --> 00:43:04.000
birthday, Billy. Because he knows he's going

00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:09.159
to land and die. For some reason, that one sticks

00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:13.989
with me. robot chicken in terms of you know claymation

00:43:13.989 --> 00:43:16.610
which is i mean we've seen that on um what's

00:43:16.610 --> 00:43:18.909
the mtv when they had to fight the yeah celebrity

00:43:18.909 --> 00:43:22.670
death match so the the claymation wasn't like

00:43:22.670 --> 00:43:25.929
new to me but just the pop culture references

00:43:25.929 --> 00:43:27.789
stuff that they were doing on there with the

00:43:27.789 --> 00:43:30.670
star wars and stuff like that and i think i had

00:43:30.670 --> 00:43:33.190
a little brief comeback a couple years back i

00:43:33.190 --> 00:43:35.989
can't remember so yeah i i love robot chicken

00:43:35.989 --> 00:43:39.099
in terms of You're doing sketch comedy. Some

00:43:39.099 --> 00:43:40.980
of them are going to hit. Some of them are going

00:43:40.980 --> 00:43:43.900
to land. Sorry, some of them are going to hit.

00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:46.260
Some of them are going to bomb. The ones that

00:43:46.260 --> 00:43:50.800
hit, oh, man. They're great. So, yeah, Robot

00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:52.800
Chicken, never going to get a bad word said for

00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:57.860
me. It has gotten over 27 award nominations and

00:43:57.860 --> 00:44:00.659
wins along the way. This was not on our list

00:44:00.659 --> 00:44:03.960
15 years ago. 15 years ago, we had it at 134th.

00:44:04.250 --> 00:44:06.150
So it's climbed quite a bit to make it up to

00:44:06.150 --> 00:44:08.989
number 71. Steve, will Robot Chicken warranted

00:44:08.989 --> 00:44:10.610
in our top 100 this time around, even though

00:44:10.610 --> 00:44:12.829
it wasn't last time? What do you think? 100%.

00:44:12.829 --> 00:44:15.829
This is one of those staples of that Adult Swim

00:44:15.829 --> 00:44:19.630
Cartoon Network era. And honestly, if it wasn't

00:44:19.630 --> 00:44:21.429
here, I would have to question it a little bit

00:44:21.429 --> 00:44:24.130
because there's a lot of that adult humor, but

00:44:24.130 --> 00:44:27.550
it's playing in the realm of nostalgia and things

00:44:27.550 --> 00:44:31.130
that we all understand and poke fun at. Kind

00:44:31.130 --> 00:44:34.010
of like DJ said, like... They do the skits, but

00:44:34.010 --> 00:44:36.849
then Robot Chicken does it, like, tenfold. And

00:44:36.849 --> 00:44:41.250
so, like, one of my favorite clips are the ones

00:44:41.250 --> 00:44:45.369
with, you know, David Kaye doing Beast Megatron

00:44:45.369 --> 00:44:49.610
throwing the panda in the lava. Oh, good. He's

00:44:49.610 --> 00:44:53.269
like, and that is a maximal, you know, and throws

00:44:53.269 --> 00:44:58.590
it in, and it's a real panda. Or Optimus Prime

00:44:58.590 --> 00:45:04.320
having... gonorrhea or whatever you know so there

00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:06.500
were so many different clips between all of that

00:45:06.500 --> 00:45:10.820
or selling Soundwave on eBay and I don't know

00:45:10.820 --> 00:45:13.199
I find a lot of the different clips even if they're

00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:15.719
not Transformers related to be very funny and

00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:21.639
not all of them are enjoyable but overall I feel

00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:25.300
like this show is great plus if possible to get

00:45:25.300 --> 00:45:27.949
the original voice actors back yeah for some

00:45:27.949 --> 00:45:32.329
of these characters or if not yeah or seth just

00:45:32.329 --> 00:45:37.550
does it yeah that's true so yeah it's it's it's

00:45:37.550 --> 00:45:40.750
such a great show mike agree disagree yeah i

00:45:40.750 --> 00:45:44.630
agree i had this one ranked 98 and it came in

00:45:44.630 --> 00:45:46.849
here at number 71 so i think it's warranted i

00:45:46.849 --> 00:45:49.670
think uh is one of those that didn't make the

00:45:49.670 --> 00:45:51.409
cut last time around that you could have questioned

00:45:51.409 --> 00:45:54.070
so i'm glad that we made its way into our list

00:45:54.070 --> 00:45:56.610
this time so mike i got a question for you Go

00:45:56.610 --> 00:45:59.489
ahead, DJ. Go ahead. Oh, no. I was just saying

00:45:59.489 --> 00:46:03.309
I recently had to watch a couple. I had to go

00:46:03.309 --> 00:46:06.570
to YouTube, the thing called YouTube, and look

00:46:06.570 --> 00:46:08.630
up some of them because we had to do a Star Wars

00:46:08.630 --> 00:46:10.650
show. And I was like writing a sketch. And I

00:46:10.650 --> 00:46:12.829
was like, did they do this on Robot Chicken?

00:46:12.909 --> 00:46:15.670
I had to make sure because they did a crap load

00:46:15.670 --> 00:46:19.289
of Star Wars sketches. I remember the one where

00:46:19.289 --> 00:46:22.230
it's what Mark would say from Empire Strikes

00:46:22.230 --> 00:46:25.880
Back and Vader is explaining the plot. like I'm

00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:27.559
your father and then you're married to your son.

00:46:27.619 --> 00:46:28.960
And then Mark Hamill was like, well, if you're

00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:30.119
not going to take this seriously, I'm out of

00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:34.820
here. You're talking about, you know, like 15,

00:46:34.900 --> 00:46:37.820
16, 17 skits per episode that it has aired over

00:46:37.820 --> 00:46:39.860
220 episodes, I think, or something like that.

00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:41.800
So yeah, man, it's crazy. It's covered a lot

00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:47.480
of ground. It's essentially SNL for nerds. You

00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:50.179
look at it. Acclamation SNL for nerds. So yeah.

00:46:50.820 --> 00:46:54.039
Okay. Mike, my question to you is, where haven't

00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:58.760
we been yet this time around? Anywhere before

00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:10.000
1980. Let's see where we go next. We've been

00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:12.460
in the 60s and the 50s. We've been in the 90s.

00:47:12.460 --> 00:47:14.780
We've been in the 2000s. One decade that hasn't

00:47:14.780 --> 00:47:19.320
been breached yet this episode? 1980s. This show

00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:22.579
represents one of the earliest examples of global

00:47:22.579 --> 00:47:26.860
animated franchising done at scale. It helped

00:47:26.860 --> 00:47:29.960
prove animation could drive massive merchandising

00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:33.860
and worldwide recognition. The show's simplicity

00:47:33.860 --> 00:47:36.579
also made it accessible to a wide audience, contributing

00:47:36.579 --> 00:47:39.960
to its longevity and reach. Maybe formulaic and

00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:43.019
repetitive, maybe limited narrative growth, but

00:47:43.019 --> 00:47:45.320
some will argue that its cultural reach alone

00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:49.860
justifies it to be even higher. Any guesses on

00:47:49.860 --> 00:47:50.940
this one? I don't think you guys are going to

00:47:50.940 --> 00:47:54.559
get it. He -Man and the Masters of the Universe.

00:47:55.139 --> 00:47:57.719
Mike, I was just about to say He -Man. An even

00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:01.480
earlier example of massive merchandising and

00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:03.780
global animated franchising done at scale. We're

00:48:03.780 --> 00:48:09.639
talking about 1981's Smurfs. Really? Smurfs from

00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:12.960
Hanna -Barbera aired on NBC. 256 episodes. I

00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:15.119
think it aired almost every year of the 1980s.

00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:17.380
It appeared in six of the nine lists that we

00:48:17.380 --> 00:48:19.900
used to compile our nominees. It appeared on

00:48:19.900 --> 00:48:24.360
22 of our 44 lists. It did fall 18 spots from

00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:26.440
where we had it last time around, though last

00:48:26.440 --> 00:48:29.000
time we had it at still in this episode, but

00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:31.579
we had it around the 52 mark, and it's coming

00:48:31.579 --> 00:48:35.659
in here at 70. Mike, Smurfs warranted to be in

00:48:35.659 --> 00:48:38.940
our top 100 or not? If you choke a Smurf, what

00:48:38.940 --> 00:48:40.840
color is the turn? Oh, we went straight there.

00:48:41.019 --> 00:48:43.159
Okay. Right to it. You have to always make it

00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:46.570
sexual, Mike. Come on. No, no, no, no, no. Seriously,

00:48:46.889 --> 00:48:49.530
if you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn?

00:48:50.130 --> 00:48:56.070
Purple? Green. Does it? Yeah. I was joking. I

00:48:56.070 --> 00:48:58.190
didn't even know. I was going to say purple,

00:48:58.289 --> 00:49:01.389
too. They choked a Smurf? I literally just choked

00:49:01.389 --> 00:49:03.670
a chicken. Oh. This is not what I wrote about

00:49:03.670 --> 00:49:07.210
chicken. Was this something in our series? Oh.

00:49:07.989 --> 00:49:10.070
Oh. Turns green. Mike, have you choked a Smurf?

00:49:11.219 --> 00:49:15.619
Long time ago. Anyway. This is going to be like

00:49:15.619 --> 00:49:19.480
the dark side of the Geekcast radio network.

00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:20.699
It's going to be like one of those documentaries

00:49:20.699 --> 00:49:23.579
that show like... It's a perfect clip, though.

00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:27.500
It's like... Geekcast radio after. After you

00:49:27.500 --> 00:49:33.280
die. TF2 and Mike. Smurf Joker. News at 11. Smurf

00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:34.920
Joker is a hell of a title. You're right in your

00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:37.860
own obituary, Mike. That's right. Well, I've

00:49:37.860 --> 00:49:41.369
been doing it for the last 17 years. They call

00:49:41.369 --> 00:49:43.170
them in for special occasions. I'm the Smurf

00:49:43.170 --> 00:49:46.150
Joker. You guys call me the Smurf Joker Runner.

00:49:48.369 --> 00:49:51.449
Who are you going to call? Smurf Joker. Smurf

00:49:51.449 --> 00:49:57.150
Joker. We now have all of the YouTube clips we

00:49:57.150 --> 00:50:04.190
now need for the YouTube channel. I don't know.

00:50:04.309 --> 00:50:08.969
I liked Smurfs for about a half a second and

00:50:08.969 --> 00:50:12.739
it was... No, seriously. He's a Snorks fan, so

00:50:12.739 --> 00:50:16.300
you gotta... Now you spoiled it. Why are you

00:50:16.300 --> 00:50:21.679
gonna spoil my fun? You jackass. You jackass.

00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:23.440
I think this goes against the rules that we signed.

00:50:23.820 --> 00:50:31.539
Yeah, exactly. You jackass. You're fired. Steve,

00:50:31.539 --> 00:50:34.300
thoughts on Smurfs? Wait, I'm not even finished

00:50:34.300 --> 00:50:37.539
yet. I mean, you say you're a smurf choker and

00:50:37.539 --> 00:50:39.059
they turn green. I mean, I think that's all we

00:50:39.059 --> 00:50:42.900
need to know. We cut your mic. You assholes.

00:50:42.980 --> 00:50:45.699
My favorite thing of smurfs showing up is in

00:50:45.699 --> 00:50:49.139
the movie Pixels where Michelle Monaghan takes

00:50:49.139 --> 00:50:55.050
them out with a light cannon. God. Smurfs are

00:50:55.050 --> 00:50:57.849
like the most non -violent things. I just watched

00:50:57.849 --> 00:51:00.190
Family. If I was a Smurf and I was in pictures,

00:51:00.269 --> 00:51:03.789
I'd want somebody to choke me out. Please. It

00:51:03.789 --> 00:51:06.630
was the most family -friendly cartoon in maybe

00:51:06.630 --> 00:51:09.210
history. And we're choking them. We're blowing

00:51:09.210 --> 00:51:13.110
them away. I like it. I don't mind the show.

00:51:13.250 --> 00:51:14.849
I think that it deserves to be on there. But

00:51:14.849 --> 00:51:16.909
I feel like it gets super repetitive and annoying

00:51:16.909 --> 00:51:19.789
the more you watch it. And I feel like it's got

00:51:19.789 --> 00:51:22.800
a limited shelf life. same thing with snorks

00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:24.780
it's the same thing and just underwater like

00:51:24.780 --> 00:51:28.559
i find them both whatever i i find them both

00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:31.199
and highly annoying i think for me it's the fact

00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:33.260
that like when i think of a show that encapsulated

00:51:33.260 --> 00:51:35.719
like the entire 80s like this would be in like

00:51:35.719 --> 00:51:39.179
a top 10 probably if if not like top five of

00:51:39.179 --> 00:51:40.900
shows that really represent the wrong character

00:51:40.900 --> 00:51:44.860
and smurfs it was gargamel that was such an you

00:51:44.860 --> 00:51:46.800
could have done a series called gargamel and

00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:48.380
i would have been in because i want to know everything

00:51:48.380 --> 00:51:54.380
about this guy's life it is genius from a mass

00:51:54.380 --> 00:51:56.920
merchandising standpoint that they had like the

00:51:56.920 --> 00:51:59.500
sheer number of like the types of smurfs had

00:51:59.500 --> 00:52:01.079
to be in the hundreds right like there was literally

00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:03.260
hundreds of them you could have like little figurines

00:52:03.260 --> 00:52:05.780
for like jokey smurf and smiley it's like the

00:52:05.780 --> 00:52:07.860
care bears right it's like every smurf had a

00:52:07.860 --> 00:52:14.880
different like persona so like i mean jokey smurf

00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:18.760
tells jokes yeah exactly so being serious for

00:52:19.309 --> 00:52:21.530
two seconds here anything about smurfette i'm

00:52:21.530 --> 00:52:26.230
cutting your mic again that's dj's job he's the

00:52:26.230 --> 00:52:31.010
one yeah that's on him oh so being all serious

00:52:31.010 --> 00:52:33.969
for half a second here this coming in at number

00:52:33.969 --> 00:52:37.510
70 and for all of its everything that it did

00:52:37.510 --> 00:52:40.829
in the 80s the merchandising and the the cartoon

00:52:40.829 --> 00:52:43.510
and the movies and everything else the funny

00:52:43.510 --> 00:52:46.969
thing is is that a couple of years ago i interviewed

00:52:46.969 --> 00:52:51.159
someone uh michael asiello who was putting out

00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:55.480
a movie at the time about his life he actually

00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:59.219
is one of if not the biggest smurf collector

00:52:59.219 --> 00:53:05.440
that i've ever not kidding uh he actually founded

00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:10.039
uh years and years ago he he doesn't work there

00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:16.719
now but he founded tvline .com wow yeah uh um

00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:20.480
what what's the name of the movie um spoiler

00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:24.380
alert is the name of the movie but when i interviewed

00:53:24.380 --> 00:53:26.719
him and i was you know i was preparing for the

00:53:26.719 --> 00:53:28.579
interview and everything else and he was telling

00:53:28.579 --> 00:53:30.559
me you know asked me about the smurf collection

00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:33.179
that i have and this set and the other thing

00:53:33.179 --> 00:53:35.139
and everything else i was like oh really cool

00:53:35.139 --> 00:53:40.039
very cool and whatever else um so yeah no it's

00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:44.230
uh I mean, I liked, like I said at the beginning

00:53:44.230 --> 00:53:46.030
of this, before we started doing all the joking,

00:53:46.130 --> 00:53:49.449
whatever else, I liked Smurfs for a number of

00:53:49.449 --> 00:53:51.869
years. I thought it was a cool cartoon when I

00:53:51.869 --> 00:53:55.730
was a kid. And then when Snorks came along, I

00:53:55.730 --> 00:53:59.409
just felt that Snorks at the time when I was

00:53:59.409 --> 00:54:03.309
a kid was a cooler, more interesting story. And

00:54:03.309 --> 00:54:06.449
besides, it had Michael Bell as the lead character.

00:54:06.570 --> 00:54:09.340
It basically had Prowl underwater. And I'll give

00:54:09.340 --> 00:54:10.760
you that. You were telling everybody that you

00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:13.820
were dating Smurfs and then you just kicked Smurfs

00:54:13.820 --> 00:54:16.380
to the curb. Well, at first he said he liked

00:54:16.380 --> 00:54:20.679
them for half a second. The problem is we needed

00:54:20.679 --> 00:54:25.000
more Gargamel. That's true. Hell no. Yes, we

00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:29.480
did. Papa Smurf was like the precursor to Optimus

00:54:29.480 --> 00:54:36.420
Prime. Like, come on. Slow down. Papa Smurf was

00:54:36.420 --> 00:54:42.289
essentially a pimp. look look we're gonna go

00:54:42.289 --> 00:54:44.090
down a smurf rabbit hole and i think that even

00:54:44.090 --> 00:54:45.829
sounds sexual so why don't we just go on to the

00:54:45.829 --> 00:54:50.309
next i agree exactly okay i know this is not

00:54:50.309 --> 00:54:53.590
gonna happen but man if stripperella is number

00:54:53.590 --> 00:54:57.449
69 i'm gonna crack my i'm just gonna crack 69

00:54:57.449 --> 00:55:05.809
at this point all right 69 what is this place

00:55:07.820 --> 00:55:11.519
You might call it my throne room, Optimus Primal.

00:55:13.579 --> 00:55:16.860
All right, coming in at 69. Why is that the number

00:55:16.860 --> 00:55:18.840
that had to come after this last conversation?

00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:22.440
That's my question. There's a channel that comes

00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:24.840
to mind that we have not seen a single show from

00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:30.440
so far, which is surprising to me. We've had

00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:35.500
100 through 70. No cartoons that debuted on Fox

00:55:35.500 --> 00:55:39.320
so far. oh wow box kids which is somewhat surprising

00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:42.860
to me um i think at least some of the panel might

00:55:42.860 --> 00:55:44.800
be happy about this one i think the argument

00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:47.940
is for some is that it's bold and ahead of its

00:55:47.940 --> 00:55:51.340
time thematically ambitious as far as a franchise

00:55:51.340 --> 00:55:53.739
cartoon like one of the most thematically ambitious

00:55:53.739 --> 00:55:56.019
franchise cartoons ever like it tackles philosophy

00:55:56.019 --> 00:55:59.519
identity environmentalism uh in ways rarely seen

00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:02.019
in toy based animation i push the boundaries

00:56:02.019 --> 00:56:04.380
of what a franchise show could attempt narratively

00:56:04.699 --> 00:56:06.340
Although there are some fans of the franchise

00:56:06.340 --> 00:56:09.300
that don't like it for a lot of different reasons.

00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:11.280
We'll have to get into where we all fall on this

00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:13.039
one. It did not make the countdown last time.

00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:16.420
It missed it by six spots last time, and it has

00:56:16.420 --> 00:56:18.559
found its way to number 69. We're talking about

00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:25.119
1999's Beast Machines. Oh, that's not what I

00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:26.960
thought you were going to say. That is not what

00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:28.360
I thought either, but I am happy. I thought he

00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:31.550
was going Captain Planet there. A little more

00:56:31.550 --> 00:56:33.730
thematically maybe ambitious than Captain Planet

00:56:33.730 --> 00:56:35.670
even, I think, with some of the philosophizing

00:56:35.670 --> 00:56:38.409
they do on Beast Machines. But it appeared on

00:56:38.409 --> 00:56:41.210
14 of the 44 lists, so not as many as the ones

00:56:41.210 --> 00:56:43.489
we've seen beforehand, but those that ranked

00:56:43.489 --> 00:56:46.690
it, ranked it fairly high. And obviously it went

00:56:46.690 --> 00:56:51.289
from 106 all the way up to 69. So nothing fancy

00:56:51.289 --> 00:56:53.269
for you, Mike, on the numbering there, but what

00:56:53.269 --> 00:56:56.010
do you think of Beast Machines? Of Beast Machines,

00:56:56.110 --> 00:57:00.949
it... is an amazing story it's an interesting

00:57:00.949 --> 00:57:07.550
story it is some of the best cgi for the time

00:57:07.550 --> 00:57:15.170
in 1999 at the time i heard that smirk dj if

00:57:15.170 --> 00:57:20.130
you could hear a smirk yeah don't choke sorry

00:57:20.130 --> 00:57:26.940
i heard smurf i said smirk okay uh what is so

00:57:26.940 --> 00:57:33.960
cool about beast machines to me and about beast

00:57:33.960 --> 00:57:38.079
wars itself and i'm doing this on purpose the

00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:40.480
character of shidor you look at the character

00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:42.659
of shidor from beast wars all the way up to beast

00:57:42.659 --> 00:57:47.440
machines is how that kid grew up the evolution

00:57:47.440 --> 00:57:51.039
of that character by the time we get to beast

00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:58.199
machines he is a full -on adult and he just has

00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:01.059
to deal with everything he has to deal with and

00:58:01.059 --> 00:58:03.199
i just absolutely love it i love what ian james

00:58:03.199 --> 00:58:05.880
corlett did with the character as far as the

00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:11.420
voice goes and oh boy megatron he gonna lose

00:58:11.420 --> 00:58:16.500
his head we had transformers prime last episode

00:58:16.500 --> 00:58:18.659
now we get beast machine steve what do you think

00:58:18.659 --> 00:58:21.679
of our transformers representation so far in

00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:25.820
the countdown i call it my throne room optimus

00:58:25.820 --> 00:58:37.139
solo um well well well uh yeah so i i'm honestly

00:58:37.139 --> 00:58:40.900
surprised that it made it on the list uh considering

00:58:40.900 --> 00:58:43.559
all the other transformer shows that were available

00:58:43.559 --> 00:58:49.099
um It did tackle a lot of big topics and a lot

00:58:49.099 --> 00:58:54.719
of like different character developments. It

00:58:54.719 --> 00:58:58.360
also kind of alienated the franchise and it was

00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:01.719
unsellable overseas, which is why they went back

00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:04.719
to like robots in disguise and then started with

00:59:04.719 --> 00:59:07.420
the Armada, Energon and Cybertron and then kind

00:59:07.420 --> 00:59:12.539
of snowballed back into the G1 era. Because it

00:59:12.539 --> 00:59:14.599
didn't quite land as well. And I think there

00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:17.659
was really, I hated the transformations, I hated

00:59:17.659 --> 00:59:22.539
the toys, but I liked what they did of putting

00:59:22.539 --> 00:59:24.840
them back on Cybertron, having Megatron take

00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:29.860
over, having the Viacons, having the Ragtag Maximals,

00:59:29.860 --> 00:59:32.219
although I wish that some of them weren't a part

00:59:32.219 --> 00:59:39.119
of the group. Specifically Night Scream. But

00:59:39.119 --> 00:59:42.659
yeah, I'm happy that it's on the list this go

00:59:42.659 --> 00:59:45.059
-around. I know originally when I first watched

00:59:45.059 --> 00:59:47.159
it as whatever age I was when I first watched

00:59:47.159 --> 00:59:50.539
it, I actually liked Beast Machines more than

00:59:50.539 --> 00:59:52.420
Beast Wars. I'm not saying that that's still

00:59:52.420 --> 00:59:54.639
the case, but I know originally I gravitated

00:59:54.639 --> 00:59:56.699
towards some of what it was doing and what it

00:59:56.699 --> 01:00:00.119
was going for, and I kind of liked it. I am surprised

01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:02.980
that it made the list a little bit. DJ, do you

01:00:02.980 --> 01:00:04.539
think Beast Machines and Transformers Prime,

01:00:04.659 --> 01:00:06.360
the two Transformers shows we've seen so far,

01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:08.820
are they both top 100 worthy, or is this showing

01:00:08.820 --> 01:00:12.789
a little bit of a bias? I was more of Beast Wars.

01:00:12.909 --> 01:00:15.710
So Beast Machines, I think, was right as I was

01:00:15.710 --> 01:00:19.170
stepping away from Transformers. So I don't even.

01:00:21.130 --> 01:00:25.650
I get it. To me, Transformers is just me anyway.

01:00:25.869 --> 01:00:31.429
One humongous brand. So it's kind of split off.

01:00:31.449 --> 01:00:34.690
And this is kind of the one that I kind of never

01:00:34.690 --> 01:00:39.230
got to get into so much. If you have that name,

01:00:39.309 --> 01:00:43.289
Transformers anything, you're going to get some

01:00:43.289 --> 01:00:46.849
votes. Put it this way, I'm not surprised it's

01:00:46.849 --> 01:00:51.250
on the list. Just really quickly, I found my

01:00:51.250 --> 01:00:57.769
list, my spreadsheet. I had it at number 9. Oh,

01:00:57.769 --> 01:01:02.329
well there you go. You're the reason. I had it

01:01:02.329 --> 01:01:05.090
at 24 because I would not have put that in my

01:01:05.090 --> 01:01:07.989
top 10. I liked it, I enjoyed it, but there were

01:01:07.989 --> 01:01:10.550
so many other shows I wanted to represent in

01:01:10.550 --> 01:01:14.869
the top 10 that were more deserving. And if I'm

01:01:14.869 --> 01:01:16.869
going to pick one Transformers show in my top

01:01:16.869 --> 01:01:19.369
10, we all know what it's going to be. Yeah,

01:01:19.849 --> 01:01:28.530
that's fine. But my children even ranked it in

01:01:28.530 --> 01:01:34.000
the 20s. Yeah, I am a big fan of Beast Machines.

01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:35.619
I didn't quite have room for it in my top 100

01:01:35.619 --> 01:01:38.320
just because I had already had some other franchise

01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:40.079
-related shows that were in there, so it didn't

01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:41.840
quite make the cut for me, but I'm not necessarily

01:01:41.840 --> 01:01:44.800
mad at it. That means that there's only, you

01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:47.500
know, we've seen little of every time period

01:01:47.500 --> 01:01:49.940
so far except for one, so let's go ahead and

01:01:49.940 --> 01:01:53.480
get our first from that time period next. 68.

01:01:55.400 --> 01:01:58.059
Yes, Finn. Stop hurting that edge, you old bag,

01:01:58.219 --> 01:02:01.519
or you're going to get it. You want some of this,

01:02:01.539 --> 01:02:04.420
too? That time period that I'm talking about

01:02:04.420 --> 01:02:07.239
is the 2010s to present. We haven't had one of

01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:09.519
those yet today, so let's break that now and

01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:12.500
go with a Cartoon Network show from 2010 itself.

01:02:13.500 --> 01:02:16.199
A lot of people will say this is significant

01:02:16.199 --> 01:02:19.000
or will argue this is significantly too low and

01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:20.719
it needs to be much higher. Some would say this

01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:22.480
is one of the most important animated shows ever.

01:02:23.019 --> 01:02:25.800
Others would say. Its early randomness tonal

01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:28.059
shifts make it inconsistent and hard to access

01:02:28.059 --> 01:02:32.219
for some viewers. May have reshaped modern animation.

01:02:33.059 --> 01:02:34.760
We'll see. I'm interested to see what you guys

01:02:34.760 --> 01:02:36.719
think. From Cartoon Network 2010, we're talking

01:02:36.719 --> 01:02:41.019
about Adventure Time at number 68. It obviously

01:02:41.019 --> 01:02:42.679
was not ranked last time since it didn't exist.

01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:46.079
DJ, what do you think? It's been nominated or

01:02:46.079 --> 01:02:49.940
won over 33 awards for various things like Emmys

01:02:49.940 --> 01:02:53.280
and etc. Adventure Time coming in at 68. Will

01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:54.599
we get some hate for this or do you think it's

01:02:54.599 --> 01:02:56.780
right? It's going to be hate for me. I'm not

01:02:56.780 --> 01:02:58.619
an Adventure Time fan. I'm a regular show guy.

01:02:59.960 --> 01:03:04.219
Very good. I am aware of Adventure Time, not

01:03:04.219 --> 01:03:09.340
my cup of tea. That's kind of leaning into the

01:03:09.340 --> 01:03:17.179
zany for me. But again, I hear it a lot and people

01:03:17.179 --> 01:03:18.780
are telling me, oh yeah, Adventure Time is great.

01:03:19.340 --> 01:03:21.340
i sat down and tried to watch it a couple times

01:03:21.340 --> 01:03:25.340
i'm like yeah sometimes people like oysters and

01:03:25.340 --> 01:03:28.239
sometimes people don't like oysters and i don't

01:03:28.239 --> 01:03:32.099
like oysters but i i understand oysters okay

01:03:32.099 --> 01:03:36.079
i get it i understand the uh the appeal of oysters

01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:38.599
i just would not put them with a steak anytime

01:03:38.599 --> 01:03:42.139
soon so yes i i get adventure time i just wouldn't

01:03:42.139 --> 01:03:43.460
pick adventure time i don't think he's even on

01:03:43.460 --> 01:03:45.139
my list i believe i'm looking at my list now

01:03:45.139 --> 01:03:47.519
i did not see it anywhere on there so no right

01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:49.539
steve some say it opened the door for creator

01:03:49.539 --> 01:03:51.699
-driven storytelling and influenced an entire

01:03:51.699 --> 01:03:54.360
generation of shows are we just the wrong age

01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:57.539
group for this or what do you think steve i well

01:03:57.539 --> 01:04:00.980
i i did not like this show at all i tried watching

01:04:00.980 --> 01:04:04.039
and again this is where i went through shows

01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:06.679
i'd never seen before watched multiple episodes

01:04:06.679 --> 01:04:10.619
this was one i was like what the heck am i watching

01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:15.420
I was like, do I need to be drinking for this?

01:04:15.539 --> 01:04:18.039
Do I need to, you know, do I need to be on acid?

01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:21.360
Like, what is it like here? Because it seems

01:04:21.360 --> 01:04:24.940
like most of the shows between 2010 and like

01:04:24.940 --> 01:04:29.579
the early 2020s of Cartoon Network stuff had

01:04:29.579 --> 01:04:31.719
this kind of animation and this weird storytelling.

01:04:31.780 --> 01:04:36.960
And it was really strange. And I find it. It's

01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:41.900
the modern day Nickelodeon for me. with Cartoon

01:04:41.900 --> 01:04:45.440
Network because around that time Nickelodeon

01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:50.960
shifted to better animation so I will say that

01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:54.699
I don't like it I'm not the group that this is

01:04:54.699 --> 01:04:57.980
geared towards but I also I'm not a fan of this

01:04:57.980 --> 01:05:02.119
type of humor writing or animation style you're

01:05:02.119 --> 01:05:05.900
not high enough we're just not high enough Mike

01:05:05.900 --> 01:05:08.380
any last thoughts on Adventure Time before we

01:05:08.380 --> 01:05:13.260
move on? Can I go back in time and take a neon

01:05:13.260 --> 01:05:16.639
Genesis and move that up to here and put adventure

01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:19.559
time at one Oh seven, please. Again, I would

01:05:19.559 --> 01:05:22.599
like that trade to go through, please. I vote

01:05:22.599 --> 01:05:26.420
for that as well. I don't know if it would work

01:05:26.420 --> 01:05:29.460
for like, like the audience out there. Adventure

01:05:29.460 --> 01:05:33.320
time. Just like, I don't know. Like, and what

01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:37.880
Steven and DJ are saying about, like, I don't

01:05:37.880 --> 01:05:41.000
even think. alcohol or drugs would help you watching

01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:45.360
this show like i really don't think like i'm

01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:50.199
not a like i i don't know i i really don't think

01:05:50.199 --> 01:05:54.800
it would like it's just too out there for me

01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:59.719
like i've seen mike i i've seen multiple it'll

01:05:59.719 --> 01:06:04.260
be okay i doom scroll instagram a lot i've seen

01:06:04.260 --> 01:06:06.860
regular show clips i've seen adventure time clips

01:06:06.860 --> 01:06:10.949
i think jake the dog does something with bacon

01:06:10.949 --> 01:06:14.530
pancakes or something he i i don't know that's

01:06:14.530 --> 01:06:16.710
the most recent thing i've seen i don't know

01:06:16.710 --> 01:06:18.929
it's it's a thing i'll send to you guys later

01:06:18.929 --> 01:06:22.349
i think that's probably the best most interesting

01:06:22.349 --> 01:06:26.449
thing about that show that i've ever seen but

01:06:26.449 --> 01:06:29.590
it doesn't make me actually want to like even

01:06:29.590 --> 01:06:31.809
all the homework and research we've done before

01:06:31.809 --> 01:06:34.130
we even set out to do this project this time

01:06:34.130 --> 01:06:41.000
it still did not want me want or have no mike's

01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:42.780
broken someone give him some hot chocolate put

01:06:42.780 --> 01:06:44.539
him in the corner and put some snorks on and

01:06:44.539 --> 01:06:47.800
we will uh try to get him back into a good place

01:06:47.800 --> 01:06:50.760
it was that animation style though from the 2010

01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:53.519
onward for a while because like you get bob's

01:06:53.519 --> 01:06:55.260
burgers and a lot of the other things that kind

01:06:55.260 --> 01:06:59.559
of had that aesthetic writing though they had

01:06:59.559 --> 01:07:03.300
good that story structure yeah That's what I

01:07:03.300 --> 01:07:05.260
will give you on that is that it does have writing

01:07:05.260 --> 01:07:07.599
and it does look like normal people for the most

01:07:07.599 --> 01:07:11.880
part. Somewhat. Yeah. Comparatively to this.

01:07:12.260 --> 01:07:17.539
It did take us 10 spots from our last modern

01:07:17.539 --> 01:07:20.840
episode or show. We had number 78. We had Invincible

01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:23.539
and then it took us all the way to 68 to get

01:07:23.539 --> 01:07:25.820
Adventure Time. We're not going to have to wait

01:07:25.820 --> 01:07:27.980
very long for our next one because it's coming

01:07:27.980 --> 01:07:32.710
up right now. 67. The Force is strong with you,

01:07:32.750 --> 01:07:37.030
Ezra. Come with us. What part of Blast them did

01:07:37.030 --> 01:07:43.829
you not understand? It's over, Jedi. Number 67.

01:07:44.070 --> 01:07:45.909
We're going to stay in the modern time period,

01:07:45.949 --> 01:07:50.809
this time from a show from 2014 aired on Disney

01:07:50.809 --> 01:07:53.349
or some sort of Disney, whether it be streaming

01:07:53.349 --> 01:07:55.550
or the channel or whatever you want to say. I

01:07:55.550 --> 01:07:57.530
think it was Disney XD, actually, originally.

01:07:58.349 --> 01:08:01.090
Second time we've reached this franchise. We

01:08:01.090 --> 01:08:05.690
had back way back when a number 97, we had star

01:08:05.690 --> 01:08:09.630
Wars clone Wars from 2003. And here we go with

01:08:09.630 --> 01:08:14.090
number 67, star Wars rebels here at number 60.

01:08:14.769 --> 01:08:17.869
So our second entry into the star Wars universe,

01:08:17.930 --> 01:08:22.149
it's been nominated for 11 different awards and

01:08:22.149 --> 01:08:24.890
it was ranked by 16 folks. Obviously didn't appear

01:08:24.890 --> 01:08:26.569
on our last countdown since it didn't exist.

01:08:27.789 --> 01:08:31.149
DJ, what do you think of Star Wars Rebels? Rebels

01:08:31.149 --> 01:08:34.970
has good moments in it, and it has good characters

01:08:34.970 --> 01:08:38.270
in it. To me, when it comes to the animation

01:08:38.270 --> 01:08:43.529
for Star Wars, it's not as high as some things

01:08:43.529 --> 01:08:46.890
like Jenner Tartofsky's Clone Wars series or

01:08:46.890 --> 01:08:50.329
even the regular Clone Wars series, but I like

01:08:50.329 --> 01:08:55.350
what they did with the Maul, Ezra Bridger stuff.

01:08:56.090 --> 01:08:59.680
I think... There was a moment in that show, and

01:08:59.680 --> 01:09:01.859
this is going to kind of seem like a tangent,

01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:05.479
but it's not. There was a movie called The Ballerina

01:09:05.479 --> 01:09:07.939
starring Ana de Armas. And it was like in the

01:09:07.939 --> 01:09:10.600
John Wick universe. And I'm watching the movie

01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:12.199
and I go, John Wick better not show up in this

01:09:12.199 --> 01:09:15.840
movie because if he gets bodied by the ballerina,

01:09:15.840 --> 01:09:18.079
I'm going to be very upset. And John Wick shows

01:09:18.079 --> 01:09:20.100
up. And if you haven't seen The Ballerina, Ballerina

01:09:20.100 --> 01:09:22.760
tries to fight John Wick. John Wick is like.

01:09:23.180 --> 01:09:25.300
I could kill you in like 15 different ways. And

01:09:25.300 --> 01:09:27.539
he shows her. I'm not going to do it, but I could

01:09:27.539 --> 01:09:29.979
kill you in 15 different ways. They didn't nerf

01:09:29.979 --> 01:09:32.260
John Wick. When I'm watching Rebels and Darth

01:09:32.260 --> 01:09:35.199
Vader shows up, I'm like, if Vader gets touched

01:09:35.199 --> 01:09:39.840
at any moment, if he even gets like, has trouble,

01:09:40.100 --> 01:09:42.260
I'm going to get upset. And then there was Ezra

01:09:42.260 --> 01:09:45.920
and Kanan. Is it Kanan? Yeah. They were fighting

01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:50.859
him and Vader wasn't even like breaking a...

01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:55.199
sweat yeah i was like thank you that's all i

01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:57.060
want when vader showed up i was like he better

01:09:57.060 --> 01:10:01.180
destroy these two so yes that so there are moments

01:10:01.180 --> 01:10:03.420
in rebels that i like and there's some good stuff

01:10:03.420 --> 01:10:05.359
from rebels i like there's some pot i think it

01:10:05.359 --> 01:10:06.840
didn't get its footing to probably the second

01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:09.800
season you can say that about every show a lot

01:10:09.800 --> 01:10:13.439
of so yeah they got its footing and when it hit

01:10:13.439 --> 01:10:16.880
hard i i did like some stuff but i i got better

01:10:16.880 --> 01:10:19.779
moments out of uh other star wars stuff but i

01:10:19.779 --> 01:10:23.960
i can see this i would probably have clone wars

01:10:23.960 --> 01:10:25.779
a little bit higher but yeah i i get it i get

01:10:25.779 --> 01:10:28.000
it so that's interesting because in my write

01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:29.960
-up that i didn't share i part of this was it

01:10:29.960 --> 01:10:33.220
starts slower and can be underrated due to its

01:10:33.220 --> 01:10:36.359
later season strength um so that was part of

01:10:36.359 --> 01:10:38.159
my synopsis there mike what do you think of star

01:10:38.159 --> 01:10:43.640
wars rebels order 67 doesn't sound the same as

01:10:43.640 --> 01:10:47.859
order 66 oh my god you and your numbers missed

01:10:47.859 --> 01:10:52.239
it by that much is it top 100 worthy or not oh

01:10:52.239 --> 01:10:55.560
definitely yeah absolutely steve what do you

01:10:55.560 --> 01:10:58.979
think oh definitely top 100 worthy i i agree

01:10:58.979 --> 01:11:01.720
too with the panel that the first season's a

01:11:01.720 --> 01:11:03.699
little rough to get into but once you get past

01:11:03.699 --> 01:11:05.439
that it's it's pretty decent and then digging

01:11:05.439 --> 01:11:09.239
into the the jedi sith lore and then uh getting

01:11:09.239 --> 01:11:14.510
to deal with more of the continuation of the

01:11:14.510 --> 01:11:18.010
Clone Wars and some of that and the end of Maul,

01:11:18.149 --> 01:11:23.789
finally, with a really fast ending for him. A

01:11:23.789 --> 01:11:26.449
perfect ending. Have you ever heard? It was perfect.

01:11:26.810 --> 01:11:29.770
But Sam Witwer breaks it down, how that fight

01:11:29.770 --> 01:11:34.090
happens. Yes! I love Sam. Love Sam. Sam rocks.

01:11:34.569 --> 01:11:38.050
He understands Star Wars, and I feel like he

01:11:38.050 --> 01:11:42.420
does. That guy should be... Way higher in the

01:11:42.420 --> 01:11:45.199
pecking order of the creative than most people

01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:46.819
who are in charge of Star Wars. Because Sam Witwer

01:11:46.819 --> 01:11:50.000
gets it. Oh, he totally gets it. And that's why

01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:52.539
he's been so engrossed in the entire mythos and

01:11:52.539 --> 01:11:54.359
playing Maul and all these other characters.

01:11:54.579 --> 01:11:58.319
He understands the mentality behind them. It's

01:11:58.319 --> 01:12:01.399
the character, man. I love the clip. I love the

01:12:01.399 --> 01:12:03.699
clip of the interview where he's talking to whoever

01:12:03.699 --> 01:12:06.800
he's talking to. And he tells the story of Dave

01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:10.640
Filoni or wherever else he goes. We need to do

01:12:10.640 --> 01:12:14.359
that scene again. And Filoni's like, what? Why?

01:12:14.659 --> 01:12:20.560
Well, because he met me already. Right. And.

01:12:21.800 --> 01:12:24.479
ashley turns around she goes i've never seen

01:12:24.479 --> 01:12:28.539
anyone out geek dave filoni yeah man no it's

01:12:28.539 --> 01:12:31.760
so good but no sam i literally just saw him do

01:12:31.760 --> 01:12:34.060
a clip where he's talking about he's revealing

01:12:34.060 --> 01:12:37.020
the new mall funko pops because of mall shadow

01:12:37.020 --> 01:12:40.239
lord he's so awesome he ruled mall shadow lord

01:12:40.239 --> 01:12:44.380
is it i was i'm watching the episodes and i'm

01:12:44.380 --> 01:12:48.380
just like waiting for it to think and i'm like

01:12:48.380 --> 01:12:51.359
it doesn't think doesn't stink yet because Sam

01:12:51.359 --> 01:12:53.560
Witwer is probably like nerding them out he's

01:12:53.560 --> 01:12:55.739
essentially animation Henry Cavill where he's

01:12:55.739 --> 01:12:58.000
like no no no no no this would happen not that

01:12:58.000 --> 01:13:00.159
would happen this would happen more of those

01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:04.439
guys in charge of Star Wars 100 % 100 % and apparently

01:13:04.439 --> 01:13:07.140
that means Sam Witwer came in at number 67 here

01:13:07.140 --> 01:13:10.979
yeah he's a big part of Rebels though he's a

01:13:10.979 --> 01:13:13.220
big part of the Rebels he's a big part of Star

01:13:13.220 --> 01:13:16.239
Wars though he's played Palpatine he's played

01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:22.329
he's played star killer and he's played uh he's

01:13:22.329 --> 01:13:25.489
in andor too he's in the episode um he's on the

01:13:25.489 --> 01:13:27.210
miami beach planet he's the one in the storm

01:13:27.210 --> 01:13:29.350
the desert troopers or whatever so yeah he's

01:13:29.350 --> 01:13:32.149
ingrained he's ingrained yes he is we had the

01:13:32.149 --> 01:13:35.090
2003 clone wars at 97 we have rebels here at

01:13:35.090 --> 01:13:38.409
67 we'll have to see what if and when we see

01:13:38.409 --> 01:13:42.109
anything else from the star wars franchise but

01:13:42.109 --> 01:13:47.739
until then let's see what comes up next Well,

01:13:51.859 --> 01:13:53.539
we have a rule on the show here. We can't go

01:13:53.539 --> 01:13:56.899
five reveals without going back into the pre

01:13:56.899 --> 01:13:59.859
-1980s time period. So let's go there one more

01:13:59.859 --> 01:14:02.680
time. This show introduced a cinematic serious

01:14:02.680 --> 01:14:05.760
tone to TV animation, influencing action adventure

01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:08.340
storytelling for decades. It brought a sense

01:14:08.340 --> 01:14:11.479
of realism and danger that was rare for its time.

01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:14.199
Some aspects, however, have not aged well, particularly.

01:14:15.020 --> 01:14:18.659
cultural representation and pacing. Some will

01:14:18.659 --> 01:14:20.420
elevate it for genre influence while others may

01:14:20.420 --> 01:14:23.880
rank it lower due to dated elements. This show

01:14:23.880 --> 01:14:26.840
came out in 1964 from Hanna -Barbera and debuted

01:14:26.840 --> 01:14:36.319
on ABC. Any guesses? 64. Not the Flintstones,

01:14:36.359 --> 01:14:39.460
right? Action -adventure storytelling. Action

01:14:39.460 --> 01:14:43.920
-adventure storytelling. Ooh. Sense of realism

01:14:43.920 --> 01:14:47.819
and danger that was rare in the 1960s. No, Scooby

01:14:47.819 --> 01:14:51.439
-Doo was 69. Johnny Quest. Johnny Quest from

01:14:51.439 --> 01:14:56.899
1964. 1964 release date, 1966 in our countdown.

01:14:57.239 --> 01:15:00.800
It is another climber. It was actually at number

01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:03.319
74 15 years ago, so it's climbed eight spots

01:15:03.319 --> 01:15:06.720
in 15 years. Mike, what do you think of Johnny

01:15:06.720 --> 01:15:13.460
Quest? I could. i liked it up to a certain point

01:15:13.460 --> 01:15:17.640
and then i eventually moved away from it um it

01:15:17.640 --> 01:15:21.180
was okay i think i liked the new adventures of

01:15:21.180 --> 01:15:25.079
johnny quest which came later great song yeah

01:15:25.079 --> 01:15:32.199
or theme anyway yeah theme song yeah is that

01:15:32.199 --> 01:15:36.159
all mike i bandit's the best dog ever all right

01:15:36.159 --> 01:15:39.609
dj Johnny Quest, does it get points for being

01:15:39.609 --> 01:15:42.210
influential in the action -adventure seriousness,

01:15:42.350 --> 01:15:45.649
realism, danger that we hadn't seen yet in 1964?

01:15:46.550 --> 01:15:49.590
Johnny Quest is influential because it created

01:15:49.590 --> 01:15:53.750
a spinoff remake spoof of it that may be one

01:15:53.750 --> 01:15:55.710
of the greatest cartoon shows of all time, which

01:15:55.710 --> 01:16:00.029
I won't mention. And also, isn't it weird? They've

01:16:00.029 --> 01:16:02.289
never done a live -action version of this show?

01:16:03.069 --> 01:16:10.409
Don't give them ideas. In a magical world where

01:16:10.409 --> 01:16:14.609
there's people who care about writing, you could

01:16:14.609 --> 01:16:18.789
do something really fun with this show. I'm just

01:16:18.789 --> 01:16:22.189
surprised with all the stuff they're milking.

01:16:22.210 --> 01:16:24.229
We've had two Smurf movies, but we haven't had

01:16:24.229 --> 01:16:27.270
a Johnny Quest movie? What's going on here? Had

01:16:27.270 --> 01:16:29.350
Speed Racer. Why not Johnny Quest? Have a Speed

01:16:29.350 --> 01:16:32.090
Racer movie. What's going on? Steve, any thoughts

01:16:32.090 --> 01:16:34.710
on Johnny Quest being top 100 worthy? Well, I

01:16:34.710 --> 01:16:38.109
find it funny because the original show has only

01:16:38.109 --> 01:16:41.590
one season of 26 episodes. And then the new adventures

01:16:41.590 --> 01:16:45.170
only has 13, which came out in the 80s. And so

01:16:45.170 --> 01:16:48.310
it's kind of funny that it's ranked so high and

01:16:48.310 --> 01:16:51.949
yet it has so few seasons. Yeah, I think it's

01:16:51.949 --> 01:16:54.750
probably that genre influence. I think that some

01:16:54.750 --> 01:16:56.930
folks think from, you know, a little bit of that

01:16:56.930 --> 01:17:00.439
classic, maybe. uh foundational argument that

01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:01.880
you could have because it definitely did not

01:17:01.880 --> 01:17:03.739
have a long staying power it was on five of the

01:17:03.739 --> 01:17:07.220
nine lists we looked at across the board so it's

01:17:07.220 --> 01:17:08.659
interesting and it's been on our top 100 both

01:17:08.659 --> 01:17:11.739
times 15 years ago and this time so seems to

01:17:11.739 --> 01:17:15.420
be some consensus um i had it ranked closer to

01:17:15.420 --> 01:17:20.380
the 80s and on my list so i don't know i think

01:17:20.380 --> 01:17:21.720
the argument can be made either way on this one

01:17:21.720 --> 01:17:23.260
that's one of those it's kind of like that borderline

01:17:23.260 --> 01:17:25.710
like maybe over time as more and more animated

01:17:25.710 --> 01:17:29.010
series like happen this one falls at some point

01:17:29.010 --> 01:17:30.850
but this time you know in the last 15 years it

01:17:30.850 --> 01:17:34.329
gained eight spots so it's hard to say all right

01:17:34.329 --> 01:17:38.390
let's see where we go next 65 whether you're

01:17:38.390 --> 01:17:43.529
getting physical getting ahead or just getting

01:17:43.529 --> 01:17:46.350
through the day the chips are down ron stop will

01:17:46.350 --> 01:17:48.510
take charge for the second time today we're going

01:17:48.510 --> 01:17:52.170
into the 2000s and we're going to go to a disney

01:17:52.170 --> 01:17:56.680
related cartoon here that was not ranked last

01:17:56.680 --> 01:18:02.020
time it was 110th last time but uh made it up

01:18:02.020 --> 01:18:06.600
all the way to number 65 this time around strong

01:18:06.600 --> 01:18:10.800
capable female leads in action animation help

01:18:10.800 --> 01:18:13.300
expand representation in the genre also balance

01:18:13.300 --> 01:18:15.239
tumor action and character relationships in a

01:18:15.239 --> 01:18:18.359
way that appealed to a broad audience some may

01:18:18.359 --> 01:18:19.979
argue that it's solid but not groundbreaking

01:18:19.979 --> 01:18:23.100
enough to rank this high Some say its cultural

01:18:23.100 --> 01:18:25.260
impact and female representation gives it enough

01:18:25.260 --> 01:18:29.100
to be here. Anybody, a guest from 2002 Disney

01:18:29.100 --> 01:18:33.039
show with a female -centric lead? Holy Spice?

01:18:33.619 --> 01:18:37.500
Close. We're talking about Kim Possible. Kim

01:18:37.500 --> 01:18:40.920
Possible here at number 65. It's climbed from

01:18:40.920 --> 01:18:47.039
110th to 65th. DJ, is it top 100 worthy? The

01:18:47.039 --> 01:18:49.420
amount of time my sister forced me to watch this

01:18:49.420 --> 01:18:54.220
show? Yes, I'd probably... this was like a my

01:18:54.220 --> 01:18:56.659
sister is like 13 years younger than me so I

01:18:56.659 --> 01:19:00.159
had to like I was conscious watching had to go

01:19:00.159 --> 01:19:03.100
back and watch these shows that I was too old

01:19:03.100 --> 01:19:05.380
to watch watching her watch it or her making

01:19:05.380 --> 01:19:07.479
me watch it and it was Kim Possible and Totally

01:19:07.479 --> 01:19:09.680
Spies that's why I mixed them up because it was

01:19:09.680 --> 01:19:13.899
like the block and just watching that influence

01:19:13.899 --> 01:19:18.600
on her as a woman now young girl at the time

01:19:19.100 --> 01:19:20.920
Yeah, there wasn't a really show like Impossible.

01:19:21.420 --> 01:19:26.520
I didn't think it was the greatest show ever.

01:19:26.699 --> 01:19:28.380
But I was like, you know what? If I was a little

01:19:28.380 --> 01:19:30.840
girl and this show came on, I would freaking

01:19:30.840 --> 01:19:32.899
love this show. It's fantastic. And the characters

01:19:32.899 --> 01:19:35.640
are fun. And it doesn't take itself uber seriously.

01:19:35.920 --> 01:19:39.600
So, yeah, yeah. I think every, I don't want to

01:19:39.600 --> 01:19:41.699
say gender, but I guess every generation and

01:19:41.699 --> 01:19:43.859
then gender kind of needs a show like this. Good.

01:19:44.579 --> 01:19:48.420
I like this. First off, you go to any Comic -Con

01:19:48.420 --> 01:19:50.199
or any kind of con, you're going to see about

01:19:50.199 --> 01:19:54.680
85 Kim Possible cosplayers anyway. Like that

01:19:54.680 --> 01:19:58.539
generation's She -Ra, right? Exactly. See, if

01:19:58.539 --> 01:20:01.340
I had to put She -Ra up against this, I'm leaning

01:20:01.340 --> 01:20:07.119
Kim Possible. She -Ra was not as clever as this.

01:20:07.539 --> 01:20:10.539
15 different award nominations. Steve, what do

01:20:10.539 --> 01:20:13.310
you think of its top 100 worthiness? I definitely

01:20:13.310 --> 01:20:16.229
think it's top 100 worthy. One, it has multiple

01:20:16.229 --> 01:20:19.010
seasons. It even spawned in a live action film

01:20:19.010 --> 01:20:24.350
on Disney. And, you know, it it was genuinely

01:20:24.350 --> 01:20:27.409
entertaining for what it was like. I didn't go,

01:20:27.550 --> 01:20:29.689
oh, that's a girl cartoon. You know, it was like,

01:20:29.770 --> 01:20:31.829
oh, this is interesting because you had Will

01:20:31.829 --> 01:20:34.569
Friedle. You had a lot of the goofy antics. You

01:20:34.569 --> 01:20:38.489
had just, you know, your normal teenage kind

01:20:38.489 --> 01:20:42.340
of jokes that are that are funny in it. I feel

01:20:42.340 --> 01:20:44.039
like it was kind of relatable, but it was also

01:20:44.039 --> 01:20:47.100
entertaining. Mike, any thoughts on Kim Possible?

01:20:47.640 --> 01:20:49.960
Yeah, Kim Possible, she can do anything. You

01:20:49.960 --> 01:20:52.979
got Ron Stoppable, who can't do anything at all.

01:20:54.899 --> 01:20:57.659
Like Steve mentioned, Will Friedle is the voice

01:20:57.659 --> 01:21:01.220
of Ron Stoppable. You got Christy Carlson Romano

01:21:01.220 --> 01:21:08.899
as the voice of Kim. And the villains in this

01:21:08.899 --> 01:21:14.850
show. You've got, I forget what the villain's

01:21:14.850 --> 01:21:17.229
name is, but you get Patton Oswalt as the voice

01:21:17.229 --> 01:21:21.130
of one of the villains. You've got Ricardo Montalban

01:21:21.130 --> 01:21:27.550
as Senior Senior. You've got Khan as one of the

01:21:27.550 --> 01:21:32.449
major villains. This show is amazing. Four seasons,

01:21:32.750 --> 01:21:36.029
two animated movies. Like Steve mentioned, the

01:21:36.029 --> 01:21:37.850
live action movie, which honestly wasn't that

01:21:37.850 --> 01:21:42.770
great. But the animated stuff is amazing. Absolutely

01:21:42.770 --> 01:21:45.529
love Kim Possible. This is so awesome. Such a

01:21:45.529 --> 01:21:49.229
great show. This is just absolutely awesome.

01:21:49.829 --> 01:21:54.189
Yeah, it was so cool. I personally think it should

01:21:54.189 --> 01:21:57.529
be at least 15 spots higher than where it is

01:21:57.529 --> 01:22:00.010
right now. I'm going to hold my breath on that

01:22:00.010 --> 01:22:03.029
because I don't know what's coming. I don't care

01:22:03.029 --> 01:22:07.130
what's coming. This should easily be number 50.

01:22:07.710 --> 01:22:09.369
I would have argued for it to be in last episode,

01:22:09.449 --> 01:22:13.409
honestly. I think it's worthy, but I can see

01:22:13.409 --> 01:22:16.050
it much more in the 76 to 99 range or something

01:22:16.050 --> 01:22:19.310
like that. You need your head examined. Fair

01:22:19.310 --> 01:22:24.090
enough. I would argue that it should be swapped

01:22:24.090 --> 01:22:29.029
with Dragon Ball in the sense that... Shut up.

01:22:29.770 --> 01:22:35.430
I'll edit you out. But Dragon Ball is much more

01:22:35.430 --> 01:22:39.930
influential than Kim Possible. I would probably

01:22:39.930 --> 01:22:42.289
be behind that. Steve and I will make our own

01:22:42.289 --> 01:22:45.710
trade as far as that goes. We're going to stick

01:22:45.710 --> 01:22:48.050
with Disney, but we're going to once again go

01:22:48.050 --> 01:22:54.409
to a show from the last 15 years next. 64. Guys,

01:22:54.470 --> 01:22:57.829
guys, you hear something? Dude, I don't know,

01:22:57.829 --> 01:23:03.029
man. This is it. This is it. What was that noise

01:23:03.029 --> 01:23:07.750
then? I heard a monster noise. Sweet. Beaver

01:23:07.750 --> 01:23:12.590
with a chainsaw. Right at number 64, another

01:23:12.590 --> 01:23:17.329
Disney Channel show. This one from 2012. We're

01:23:17.329 --> 01:23:22.770
going with Gravity Falls for number 64. It's

01:23:22.770 --> 01:23:26.090
got 16 award nominations or wins. It was on four

01:23:26.090 --> 01:23:28.270
of the nine lists we looked at. 17 people ranked

01:23:28.270 --> 01:23:30.819
it. obviously didn't exist last time around so

01:23:30.819 --> 01:23:33.760
it's a new newcomer to the countdown gravity

01:23:33.760 --> 01:23:37.560
falls at number 64 some say it's short run and

01:23:37.560 --> 01:23:40.579
means it lacks the longevity and volume of some

01:23:40.579 --> 01:23:42.399
other shows but some say it should be much higher

01:23:42.399 --> 01:23:45.920
due to its near perfect execution dj what do

01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:48.859
you think of gravity falls never seen i've seen

01:23:48.859 --> 01:23:52.140
like clips of it yeah yeah but perfect execution

01:23:53.000 --> 01:23:54.600
That's what they say. It says tight narrative

01:23:54.600 --> 01:23:56.960
structure, mystery elements, and emotional payoff.

01:23:57.180 --> 01:23:58.600
Maybe I need to watch this. I'm putting it on

01:23:58.600 --> 01:24:00.939
my list. To prove that a carefully planned story

01:24:00.939 --> 01:24:02.779
could resonate deeply even with a short run.

01:24:02.979 --> 01:24:05.060
And it says it has an influence on modern storytelling

01:24:05.060 --> 01:24:07.779
and animation that is significant. Gravity Falls,

01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:10.739
the one with the little cutesy animation. I haven't

01:24:10.739 --> 01:24:14.420
seen a ton of it, so I'm not well -versed. But

01:24:14.420 --> 01:24:16.640
Mike or Steve, did you have a chance to see any

01:24:16.640 --> 01:24:20.840
of this leading up to our countdown? Yes, a long

01:24:20.840 --> 01:24:27.859
time ago when it was on. Back in 2016. Back in

01:24:27.859 --> 01:24:33.539
my day. That's right. So Gravity Falls is basically,

01:24:33.840 --> 01:24:42.060
it's a mystery comedy show. It takes place in

01:24:42.060 --> 01:24:45.979
Gravity Falls. It's about Dipper and Mabel Pines.

01:24:46.079 --> 01:24:49.670
They're trying to find their grunkle Stan. it's

01:24:49.670 --> 01:24:52.970
uh it deals with a little bit of horror stuff

01:24:52.970 --> 01:24:56.909
but basically these two kids mabel and dipper

01:24:56.909 --> 01:25:00.789
pines dipper is kind of like the molder and she's

01:25:00.789 --> 01:25:03.390
kind of like the scully so it's kind of like

01:25:03.390 --> 01:25:08.289
x -files kind of animation type stuff okay it's

01:25:08.289 --> 01:25:12.789
it's not for me maybe it's for you dj i don't

01:25:12.789 --> 01:25:14.829
know i mean i see linda cardellini i like her

01:25:14.829 --> 01:25:20.420
but uh I know everyone hates when I do this.

01:25:20.439 --> 01:25:23.140
I don't care. I'm going to do it anyway. Being

01:25:23.140 --> 01:25:25.500
from Wikipedia, for their summer vacation, 12

01:25:25.500 --> 01:25:28.020
-year -old twin siblings, Dipper and Mabel Pines,

01:25:28.039 --> 01:25:31.380
are dropped off from their home in Piedmont,

01:25:31.520 --> 01:25:33.880
North Dakota. That's not what it says. Piedmont,

01:25:33.939 --> 01:25:36.420
California, to the fictitious town of Gravity

01:25:36.420 --> 01:25:39.000
Falls, Oregon, to spend the summer with their

01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:43.020
great uncle, Grunkle Stan. who runs a tourist

01:25:43.020 --> 01:25:45.880
trap called the Mystery Shack. Soon after they

01:25:45.880 --> 01:25:49.100
arrive in Gravity Falls, Dipper accidentally

01:25:49.100 --> 01:25:52.640
uncovers a mysterious journal that details many

01:25:52.640 --> 01:25:55.819
different paranormal or mythical creatures that

01:25:55.819 --> 01:26:00.220
live in the town. So it's your standard. It's

01:26:00.220 --> 01:26:02.840
like Scooby -Doo Mystery Inc. without the dog.

01:26:03.340 --> 01:26:06.380
Would you say it has perfect execution? Because

01:26:06.380 --> 01:26:11.649
that's a bold statement. i don't know i guess

01:26:11.649 --> 01:26:15.109
it's been like the last time i watched it the

01:26:15.109 --> 01:26:18.750
only time i've watched it was december of 2016

01:26:18.750 --> 01:26:23.470
um and dog years that was a long time ago for

01:26:23.470 --> 01:26:27.449
mike yes exactly have you ever seen gravity falls

01:26:27.449 --> 01:26:30.989
i've i've watched it a little bit when i was

01:26:30.989 --> 01:26:33.229
kind of perusing the different shows to try and

01:26:33.229 --> 01:26:35.630
see what we were going to be dealing with here

01:26:35.630 --> 01:26:42.479
i I would rather watch Ren and Stimpy. Me too.

01:26:44.239 --> 01:26:48.659
My kids, on the other hand, enjoyed the show

01:26:48.659 --> 01:26:51.979
because my oldest put it at like 39 and my youngest

01:26:51.979 --> 01:26:55.539
put it at 17. So obviously there's something

01:26:55.539 --> 01:26:58.180
there for that generation. I just, I could not

01:26:58.180 --> 01:27:00.579
get into it. I, between the animation and the

01:27:00.579 --> 01:27:02.840
writing, I just, I didn't like it. It's one of

01:27:02.840 --> 01:27:05.500
those. modern shows that keeps coming up. When

01:27:05.500 --> 01:27:07.319
you're talking about which of the shows from

01:27:07.319 --> 01:27:09.180
the last 15 years should be considered for a

01:27:09.180 --> 01:27:11.779
top 100, it comes up quite often with Adventure

01:27:11.779 --> 01:27:14.100
Time and some of the other ones. I'm not shocked

01:27:14.100 --> 01:27:18.380
that it's here. Again, I will say it does have

01:27:18.380 --> 01:27:22.899
good writing. It's just not my genre of show

01:27:22.899 --> 01:27:26.739
that I like. It's just not to my taste. The writer

01:27:26.739 --> 01:27:32.439
and creator of it is a year older than me to

01:27:32.439 --> 01:27:37.859
the day. yeah interesting all right so for our

01:27:37.859 --> 01:27:40.279
next one we're gonna it's been exactly 20 spots

01:27:40.279 --> 01:27:43.619
since our only other show so far that aired originally

01:27:43.619 --> 01:27:45.939
on the kids wb so let's see what that is coming

01:27:45.939 --> 01:27:57.840
in next 63 all right number 63 our second show

01:27:57.840 --> 01:28:00.439
from the kids wb we had freakazoid at 83 and

01:28:00.439 --> 01:28:04.170
now we are up to 63 This show may be one of the

01:28:04.170 --> 01:28:07.409
most influential animated properties ever, extending

01:28:07.409 --> 01:28:11.229
far beyond television into games, movies, and

01:28:11.229 --> 01:28:15.050
global culture. It is a defining example of transmedia

01:28:15.050 --> 01:28:18.710
dominance. The show itself can be formulaic and

01:28:18.710 --> 01:28:22.189
repetitive, especially across its long run. So

01:28:22.189 --> 01:28:24.350
its impact versus storytelling quality debate

01:28:24.350 --> 01:28:27.289
could be a part here, may have or may not have

01:28:27.289 --> 01:28:35.460
aired for over 1 ,200 episodes. Number 63. It

01:28:35.460 --> 01:28:37.039
was on seven of the nine lists we looked at.

01:28:37.680 --> 01:28:40.800
It has dropped actually 25 spots from where we

01:28:40.800 --> 01:28:42.399
had it last time around. We're talking about

01:28:42.399 --> 01:28:48.239
Pokemon. Oh, wow. Pokemon, which was in our top

01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:52.319
50 last time. It was number 39, I believe, and

01:28:52.319 --> 01:28:56.340
now it has fallen down to 63. Steve, what are

01:28:56.340 --> 01:29:00.289
your thoughts on Pokemon? I've gotten this. This

01:29:00.289 --> 01:29:02.449
is directly from my children who like the show.

01:29:02.470 --> 01:29:06.010
Like I watched the original run somewhat in passing.

01:29:06.430 --> 01:29:08.930
Like it wasn't something I religiously watched.

01:29:09.229 --> 01:29:11.569
I was a fan of the original games and like the

01:29:11.569 --> 01:29:14.289
first season of the old show. My kids have said

01:29:14.289 --> 01:29:16.949
that all of the newer programs are crap by comparison

01:29:16.949 --> 01:29:21.909
to the original run. They literally will watch

01:29:21.909 --> 01:29:24.289
the original stuff over the new stuff because

01:29:24.289 --> 01:29:26.550
they're like, all it is is like there's no story.

01:29:26.609 --> 01:29:29.659
It's just battles. And then. like you know ash

01:29:29.659 --> 01:29:31.579
they ruined his character and they ruined all

01:29:31.579 --> 01:29:33.479
these other characters and that you know like

01:29:33.479 --> 01:29:36.220
all the familiarity's gone right that's what

01:29:36.220 --> 01:29:38.859
i love to hear good go ahead go ahead yeah yeah

01:29:38.859 --> 01:29:40.439
they were just ripping it apart and i'm like

01:29:40.439 --> 01:29:45.319
oh you would do so well debating this but yeah

01:29:45.319 --> 01:29:48.039
they yeah i was like uh children after my own

01:29:48.039 --> 01:29:50.159
heart like they're they're like bashing the new

01:29:50.159 --> 01:29:52.600
stuff because they're from your own dna i know

01:29:52.600 --> 01:29:56.239
i know that but i'm saying like as far as like

01:29:56.239 --> 01:30:00.229
the the programs they enjoy oh yeah yeah so but

01:30:00.229 --> 01:30:02.630
it probably helps i curated a lot of it initially

01:30:02.630 --> 01:30:05.869
but they're like the new stuff sucks they're

01:30:05.869 --> 01:30:09.949
like i want the old stuff yes dj thoughts on

01:30:09.949 --> 01:30:13.409
pokemon is a top 100 worthy uh it pokemon to

01:30:13.409 --> 01:30:16.069
me is like anime cocaine so i don't really like

01:30:16.069 --> 01:30:19.569
say i stay away from it because it's if you say

01:30:19.569 --> 01:30:21.489
you went through there when you were a child

01:30:21.489 --> 01:30:25.029
right exactly and if you say i work with a bunch

01:30:25.029 --> 01:30:29.109
of people who still like grown people still like

01:30:29.109 --> 01:30:33.109
got the cards play the games no like anime they're

01:30:33.109 --> 01:30:35.270
like they have the poster in the office and they're

01:30:35.270 --> 01:30:37.729
telling me i'm like i i don't care but it's like

01:30:37.729 --> 01:30:40.029
you listen to them talk about it i was like is

01:30:40.029 --> 01:30:42.130
this me is this me in star wars is this what

01:30:42.130 --> 01:30:44.170
i sound like because they're just insane and

01:30:44.170 --> 01:30:45.949
like if i say anything bad about pokemon they

01:30:45.949 --> 01:30:47.609
get this look in there i like they're looking

01:30:47.609 --> 01:30:49.489
for my jugular or somewhere to kill me really

01:30:49.489 --> 01:30:52.109
quickly so i i don't i don't say anything bad

01:30:52.109 --> 01:30:54.069
about pokemon but this is going to be a mic thing

01:30:54.069 --> 01:30:57.039
where It's just not my cup of tea, but I know

01:30:57.039 --> 01:31:00.340
it is about as influential as, you know, oxygen

01:31:00.340 --> 01:31:03.300
to half of the world where I still got people

01:31:03.300 --> 01:31:05.739
driving around trying to hunt imaginary creatures

01:31:05.739 --> 01:31:08.640
in there from an app on their phone. That's 10

01:31:08.640 --> 01:31:11.140
years old. So no, I'm not a huge Pokemon fan,

01:31:11.279 --> 01:31:13.760
but Jesus Christ, stay away from me. Pokemon.

01:31:14.140 --> 01:31:17.380
I have no problem with you. You have no problem

01:31:17.380 --> 01:31:21.520
with me. My kids both play the old games and

01:31:21.520 --> 01:31:25.140
then they collect the cards. So yeah. I know

01:31:25.140 --> 01:31:29.340
grown folk that still do it, Rand. I think the

01:31:29.340 --> 01:31:34.239
games and the cards are maybe more impactful

01:31:34.239 --> 01:31:37.760
than the show itself. It's all a package deal,

01:31:37.899 --> 01:31:41.329
though. It's not like, oh, I collect the cards,

01:31:41.409 --> 01:31:43.470
but I don't like the show. They protect all of

01:31:43.470 --> 01:31:44.489
the people. No, but I mean, as far as, like,

01:31:44.489 --> 01:31:47.329
the cultural phenomenon, what is the cards, is

01:31:47.329 --> 01:31:49.670
the games? Like, I remember, like, when the Pokemon

01:31:49.670 --> 01:31:51.630
Game Boy games or whatever, Game Boy Color or

01:31:51.630 --> 01:31:53.189
whatever it was, like, that was, like, the number

01:31:53.189 --> 01:31:54.930
one selling game every time they came out with

01:31:54.930 --> 01:31:58.449
a new one. Yeah. But, like, that, to me, is where

01:31:58.449 --> 01:32:00.369
it goes. I had an appreciation for Pikachu from

01:32:00.369 --> 01:32:02.390
Smash Brothers because I love Smash Brothers,

01:32:02.590 --> 01:32:05.949
but I used to pick, I used to just pick Star

01:32:05.949 --> 01:32:08.050
Fox and kick Pikachu off of the thing because

01:32:08.050 --> 01:32:10.770
I didn't like Pikachu. I mean, I totally get

01:32:10.770 --> 01:32:12.510
it. It was on our top 100 last time. It's on

01:32:12.510 --> 01:32:14.750
it again this time. But for me, I'm very much

01:32:14.750 --> 01:32:18.149
like DJ. Don't send your hate mail to me. I have

01:32:18.149 --> 01:32:20.770
no problem with you liking it, but I will never...

01:32:20.770 --> 01:32:22.909
To me, there's two franchises like that that

01:32:22.909 --> 01:32:24.890
I will just never be able to get into. We're

01:32:24.890 --> 01:32:26.550
going to be hunted, man. We're going to be hunted

01:32:26.550 --> 01:32:29.510
by the... I'm going to level it up because now

01:32:29.510 --> 01:32:31.029
I'm going to have two different franchises come

01:32:31.029 --> 01:32:32.630
after me because it's Pokemon and Power Rangers.

01:32:32.750 --> 01:32:35.670
I can't get into either one of them. I just can't.

01:32:35.789 --> 01:32:37.229
They're not my thing. I can get into Power Rangers

01:32:37.229 --> 01:32:41.020
before Pokemon. I got into one season of RPM.

01:32:41.359 --> 01:32:44.119
I thought that was pretty cool. Yeah, RPM's good.

01:32:44.500 --> 01:32:46.859
Yeah, but I know other people are like, you don't

01:32:46.859 --> 01:32:49.140
like Power Rangers? It's something with the P,

01:32:49.199 --> 01:32:50.880
I guess. Power Rangers and Pokemon. Not for me.

01:32:50.960 --> 01:32:53.779
Mike, what do you think about Pokemon? So...

01:32:53.779 --> 01:32:59.760
Pokemon. Oh, boy. Oh, shut up. Do not have 10.

01:32:59.840 --> 01:33:02.680
You can't... How the fuck are you doing that?

01:33:02.840 --> 01:33:06.899
Well, you used it up. Okay, moving on. Ass hats.

01:33:07.479 --> 01:33:11.680
all right so i never get into the cards or the

01:33:11.680 --> 01:33:13.880
game i never get into the game stuff because

01:33:13.880 --> 01:33:17.180
i just never get into the game stuff i watched

01:33:17.180 --> 01:33:19.359
watched the first couple of seasons of the show

01:33:19.359 --> 01:33:25.220
it was okay i was more into the yugioh cartoon

01:33:25.220 --> 01:33:31.159
than i was into pokemon however oh yeah love

01:33:31.159 --> 01:33:36.350
yugioh the the kaiba all we'll talk later dj

01:33:36.350 --> 01:33:42.510
yes um yeah shut up kevin uh so anyway uh when

01:33:42.510 --> 01:33:48.689
it comes to pokemon it's i think the only pokemon

01:33:48.689 --> 01:33:52.710
thing i have and the only one i've ever like

01:33:52.710 --> 01:33:57.409
gone after was when funko made a angry blocked

01:33:57.409 --> 01:34:01.880
pikachu i have that that's it When that stupid

01:34:01.880 --> 01:34:06.579
app came out in 2016 or 2015 or whatever it is,

01:34:06.680 --> 01:34:12.220
I went online and I'm like, okay, whatever. I

01:34:12.220 --> 01:34:15.800
never downloaded, didn't care, whatever. I found

01:34:15.800 --> 01:34:18.560
when it came out and it was at its height, I

01:34:18.560 --> 01:34:20.739
was like, okay. And I saw somebody on Facebook

01:34:20.739 --> 01:34:24.699
posted whatever image they posted. It was Pokemon.

01:34:24.819 --> 01:34:28.420
Stop. Immediately save that. And anytime anyone

01:34:28.420 --> 01:34:30.920
talked about it. That was the first image I put

01:34:30.920 --> 01:34:35.119
in whatever comment it was on Facebook. And I

01:34:35.119 --> 01:34:38.119
still have that Pokemon stop image because I'm

01:34:38.119 --> 01:34:40.979
like, oh my God, no. Especially after the news

01:34:40.979 --> 01:34:44.060
story of somebody being so irresponsible out

01:34:44.060 --> 01:34:46.060
in California. But then again, it's like, yeah,

01:34:46.100 --> 01:34:50.000
no, I get it. The cartoon is influential. It

01:34:50.000 --> 01:34:53.100
was influential the first few seasons of it.

01:34:53.159 --> 01:34:55.399
The first, I would say, four or five seasons.

01:34:55.680 --> 01:34:58.119
It was fun. It was interesting. It was cool at

01:34:58.119 --> 01:35:01.720
the time. but you know like the first like 600

01:35:01.720 --> 01:35:04.579
700 episodes were fine i'm sure but once they

01:35:04.579 --> 01:35:07.119
got to like 1200 i'm very excited like i said

01:35:07.119 --> 01:35:10.180
the first two or three or four seasons is fine

01:35:10.180 --> 01:35:14.000
i don't think they have 100 episodes per season

01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:17.180
i don't remember i'd have to look i know you

01:35:17.180 --> 01:35:24.600
are but my problem with pokemon is i don't know

01:35:24.600 --> 01:35:31.039
if it's anywhere online to stream like like directly

01:35:31.039 --> 01:35:35.439
season one two three four or if it's all broken

01:35:35.439 --> 01:35:38.619
up it's on this app it's on that app whatever

01:35:38.619 --> 01:35:42.380
else but 63 is a good spot for it i'm glad it

01:35:42.380 --> 01:35:46.359
dropped right there's one theme so far for the

01:35:46.359 --> 01:35:48.140
last little bit of the countdown it's modern

01:35:48.140 --> 01:35:50.239
shows and we're gonna go back there again next

01:35:50.239 --> 01:35:56.159
62 That's the end of the Morty Gets a Dragon

01:35:56.159 --> 01:35:58.199
experiment. Are you going to slay it? First off,

01:35:58.239 --> 01:36:01.680
I always slay it, queen. Secondly, yes. All right,

01:36:01.680 --> 01:36:05.899
for number 62, we're going to a show from 2013.

01:36:06.319 --> 01:36:09.079
Some say it's a modern benchmark for high -concept

01:36:09.079 --> 01:36:12.939
sci -fi storytelling and animation. Others say

01:36:12.939 --> 01:36:15.399
that there's total inconsistency and the long

01:36:15.399 --> 01:36:17.520
-term quality and legacy could be in question.

01:36:17.800 --> 01:36:20.220
I know it was a craze for a while. From Adult

01:36:20.220 --> 01:36:24.720
Swim, we're talking about 2013's Rick. and morty

01:36:24.720 --> 01:36:28.779
oh rick and morty here at number 62 dj you reacted

01:36:28.779 --> 01:36:30.600
first that means you get to go first go ahead

01:36:30.600 --> 01:36:33.399
this may be one of the greatest shows that have

01:36:33.399 --> 01:36:36.180
turned into one of the most ponderous shows i

01:36:36.180 --> 01:36:41.819
used to be rick and morty was brilliant was a

01:36:41.819 --> 01:36:45.579
amazing show i adored this show and where it's

01:36:45.579 --> 01:36:49.149
fallen now it's kind of like oh man does that

01:36:49.149 --> 01:36:52.430
wipe away all of the greatness of the show? The,

01:36:52.430 --> 01:36:55.170
the, the, the vat of acid episode, maybe one

01:36:55.170 --> 01:36:59.329
of the best episodes of television I've ever

01:36:59.329 --> 01:37:01.590
seen. It's so good. But then I watched in recent

01:37:01.590 --> 01:37:05.069
seasons. I'm just like, oh man, it's like that

01:37:05.069 --> 01:37:07.770
watching that, that, that athlete you love. And

01:37:07.770 --> 01:37:09.350
like, you look, you look at him now and you're

01:37:09.350 --> 01:37:10.970
like, oh, you're broken. You need to retire,

01:37:11.090 --> 01:37:14.850
man. You were so great. Like 10 years ago, but

01:37:14.850 --> 01:37:17.869
now you can see that you don't have the pace

01:37:17.869 --> 01:37:20.869
anymore. You don't have the shot anymore. But

01:37:20.869 --> 01:37:25.270
yes, Rick and Morty, the episode where... I can

01:37:25.270 --> 01:37:28.409
go back and go back to anybody. But yeah, the

01:37:28.409 --> 01:37:31.890
episode where the Lucky Charms guy, where they

01:37:31.890 --> 01:37:34.789
rip open their version of Lucky and they eat

01:37:34.789 --> 01:37:37.350
the Lucky Charms out of his small intestines.

01:37:38.430 --> 01:37:41.779
I... I'm not ashamed to admit, I think I pissed

01:37:41.779 --> 01:37:45.260
myself laughing. It is one of the funniest things

01:37:45.260 --> 01:37:48.520
I have ever seen. The ants in your eyes. I think

01:37:48.520 --> 01:37:50.680
all of it was improv. They were watching animation

01:37:50.680 --> 01:37:52.859
and they were just improv -ing their reactions

01:37:52.859 --> 01:37:55.800
and stuff. It is so good and so smart. It was

01:37:55.800 --> 01:37:57.779
such a smart show, I guess, when Dan Harmon was

01:37:57.779 --> 01:38:01.720
in charge. And now, you don't understand. Because

01:38:01.720 --> 01:38:05.289
of that show... Two of the writers of that show,

01:38:05.350 --> 01:38:07.329
who weren't even really good writers on that

01:38:07.329 --> 01:38:09.130
show, they were kind of like yes men for Dan

01:38:09.130 --> 01:38:13.010
Harmon, got to write two Avengers movies. Think

01:38:13.010 --> 01:38:16.130
about that. A Doctor Strange movie was written

01:38:16.130 --> 01:38:18.909
by one of the guys who did the Pickle Rick episode.

01:38:19.189 --> 01:38:25.010
You understand how that show was at a time phenomenal.

01:38:25.810 --> 01:38:31.689
Now, it's not really that much so. I have to

01:38:31.689 --> 01:38:35.109
give it its plot. It was one of my favorite shows

01:38:35.109 --> 01:38:39.369
of all time. I had it at 46. So yeah. I ranked

01:38:39.369 --> 01:38:41.750
this one just on reputation and kind of influence

01:38:41.750 --> 01:38:43.789
the popularity at its time. So I had this one

01:38:43.789 --> 01:38:46.270
at 69. It comes in here at number 62. Steve,

01:38:46.369 --> 01:38:48.909
what are your thoughts on Rick and Morty? So

01:38:48.909 --> 01:38:50.909
while I may not care for a lot of the animation

01:38:50.909 --> 01:38:54.010
style in this either, and I didn't list this,

01:38:54.090 --> 01:38:58.270
I did, however, find that there is a lot of endearing

01:38:58.270 --> 01:39:00.819
qualities with this show that people, I can see

01:39:00.819 --> 01:39:03.100
why they would like it between the humor and

01:39:03.100 --> 01:39:09.500
between the zany and kind of. Weird adult animation

01:39:09.500 --> 01:39:13.600
stuff, the jokes, the I don't know, it just it

01:39:13.600 --> 01:39:19.100
feels almost like a modern Futurama. In a sense,

01:39:19.119 --> 01:39:21.819
like kind of pushing the envelope, kind of, you

01:39:21.819 --> 01:39:24.119
know, purposely doing stuff a little bit differently,

01:39:24.239 --> 01:39:26.180
but also kind of playing in that same realm.

01:39:26.750 --> 01:39:28.829
So I don't necessarily have an issue with it.

01:39:28.869 --> 01:39:32.050
I didn't personally rank it, but I can see this

01:39:32.050 --> 01:39:33.489
one a little bit more than some of the other

01:39:33.489 --> 01:39:36.909
ones that I was kind of vehemently opposed to

01:39:36.909 --> 01:39:40.149
in the previous listings. Fair enough. Mike,

01:39:40.189 --> 01:39:43.390
final thought on Rick and Morty. What's next?

01:39:45.920 --> 01:39:47.899
I'm the only one that likes Rick and Morty. Wow.

01:39:48.319 --> 01:39:51.199
Are you still like, I've only seen clips of it.

01:39:51.220 --> 01:39:54.939
I don't, I, and I just like, I know about the

01:39:54.939 --> 01:39:58.119
pickle Rick thing. I haven't even pick a Rick

01:39:58.119 --> 01:39:59.659
is not, I mean, pick a Rick is just a diehard

01:39:59.659 --> 01:40:02.579
spinoff, but yeah, no, I know. That's what I'm

01:40:02.579 --> 01:40:05.180
saying. Like, I've only seen clips of it and

01:40:05.180 --> 01:40:09.479
it's like, okay, cool. Like I've seen, sadly,

01:40:09.479 --> 01:40:12.180
I've seen more adventure time than Rick and Morty.

01:40:12.180 --> 01:40:15.899
Sorry, but yeah, I know. Watch the first, I'd

01:40:15.899 --> 01:40:19.939
say two seasons. That's worth your time. More

01:40:19.939 --> 01:40:22.060
recent stuff is kind of like more ponderous,

01:40:22.060 --> 01:40:24.720
but like the first two seasons, they were doing

01:40:24.720 --> 01:40:26.420
some stuff. How many episodes are in the first

01:40:26.420 --> 01:40:29.199
two seasons? It's like 15, 20 minute episodes.

01:40:29.279 --> 01:40:33.000
It's nothing. It's cotton candy. How many episodes

01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:35.199
are in the first two seasons? You can look that

01:40:35.199 --> 01:40:38.739
up later. You can look that up later. Yeah, it's

01:40:38.739 --> 01:40:41.270
just 20 years. It's just one that I didn't get

01:40:41.270 --> 01:40:43.250
to in my homework to watch beforehand. It's just

01:40:43.250 --> 01:40:45.390
a blind spot for me. I would recommend if you've

01:40:45.390 --> 01:40:49.329
never seen Rick and Morty, watch until, if you

01:40:49.329 --> 01:40:52.130
look this up, you can do your Wikipedia thing.

01:40:52.470 --> 01:40:55.710
Look where Dan Harmon leaves and then stop. Dan

01:40:55.710 --> 01:40:58.010
Harmon's on it, I think, which is the first couple

01:40:58.010 --> 01:41:00.670
seasons. It's really good. Dan Harmon from Community

01:41:00.670 --> 01:41:04.149
and whatever. But yeah, especially the writing.

01:41:04.289 --> 01:41:07.670
The jokes are... Even though a lot of it's improv.

01:41:07.750 --> 01:41:10.310
And essentially all it is is a spoof of Back

01:41:10.310 --> 01:41:13.010
to the Future. The Rick and Morty instead of

01:41:13.010 --> 01:41:16.029
Doc and Marty. It's the same thing. But it's

01:41:16.029 --> 01:41:20.310
the writing that is of the jokes and how they

01:41:20.310 --> 01:41:21.890
get to certain places. Because there's episodes

01:41:21.890 --> 01:41:25.970
that are jokes, but then it's got lore to it

01:41:25.970 --> 01:41:28.770
and stuff like that. So yeah, the first few seasons.

01:41:28.930 --> 01:41:30.930
The more recent stuff, not anymore. But yes,

01:41:31.050 --> 01:41:32.989
the earlier Rick and Morty were through time.

01:41:33.149 --> 01:41:37.779
The recent Rick and Morty, not. We're going to

01:41:37.779 --> 01:41:40.140
keep it modern for our next one as well. 61.

01:41:43.000 --> 01:41:44.720
That's butter. You know what? Butter's better.

01:41:46.359 --> 01:41:48.800
You have seven days to make your payment. Seven?

01:41:49.039 --> 01:41:51.659
It's going to be okay, Bob. All right, number

01:41:51.659 --> 01:41:53.619
61. We're staying in the same decade, this time

01:41:53.619 --> 01:41:59.439
2011. There was a lot of adult or primetime animation

01:41:59.439 --> 01:42:03.239
comedy that was more cynical and had a different

01:42:03.239 --> 01:42:06.100
tone. But this one. a little more character -driven,

01:42:06.180 --> 01:42:09.859
a little more heartfelt adult animation. It might

01:42:09.859 --> 01:42:12.159
lack some cultural impact or some sharpness that

01:42:12.159 --> 01:42:13.680
we got with some of the other adult animated

01:42:13.680 --> 01:42:19.840
hits, but solid, long -running show. So I'm interested

01:42:19.840 --> 01:42:22.560
to hear your guys' take. 269 -plus episodes,

01:42:22.720 --> 01:42:25.479
30 -plus award nominations and things like that.

01:42:26.420 --> 01:42:29.739
We're talking about 2011's Bob's Burgers. It

01:42:29.739 --> 01:42:32.380
already was mentioned once today. So Bob's Burgers

01:42:32.380 --> 01:42:36.050
at number 60. Mike, any experience with the burgers

01:42:36.050 --> 01:42:40.050
that Bob makes? I watched about four or five

01:42:40.050 --> 01:42:45.750
episodes of it. I liked what I saw, but not enough

01:42:45.750 --> 01:42:48.890
to continue it. Okay. Steve, what do you think?

01:42:50.750 --> 01:42:55.050
Same. I didn't dislike this one. It kind of gave

01:42:55.050 --> 01:42:59.649
me the vibes of some of the older programs, like

01:42:59.649 --> 01:43:03.420
a King of the Hill type. I still don't like the

01:43:03.420 --> 01:43:07.239
animation. It's still a thing with that era,

01:43:07.460 --> 01:43:10.840
but I can see where people like it. I personally

01:43:10.840 --> 01:43:14.619
don't, though. Another rare Fox show here showing

01:43:14.619 --> 01:43:17.560
up on the countdown. We've had Beast Machines

01:43:17.560 --> 01:43:20.840
and Bob's Burgers so far from the Fox network.

01:43:21.100 --> 01:43:24.359
DJ, what do you think of Bob's Burgers? I was

01:43:24.359 --> 01:43:27.239
excited getting into it because this is the guy

01:43:27.239 --> 01:43:31.079
that did Dr. Katz, which I loved. And it's just

01:43:31.079 --> 01:43:34.979
not, it wasn't as sharp to me as that show was.

01:43:35.060 --> 01:43:37.220
So it was kind of like, it's a fun, it's not

01:43:37.220 --> 01:43:40.779
horrible. It's just like, oh, okay. I think it's

01:43:40.779 --> 01:43:43.539
very high on this list. I wouldn't put it this

01:43:43.539 --> 01:43:46.199
high. I know people who like, like, like the

01:43:46.199 --> 01:43:49.380
show a lot, but I mean, I bet you, if I asked

01:43:49.380 --> 01:43:50.760
them that question, would you put it this high?

01:43:50.840 --> 01:43:53.520
They probably, nah, it's one of those safe. Okay.

01:43:53.939 --> 01:43:55.960
Enjoyable shows, but I would not put it up against

01:43:55.960 --> 01:43:58.869
certain things. interesting too we went into

01:43:58.869 --> 01:44:04.229
today with zero adult comedic centric shows in

01:44:04.229 --> 01:44:06.750
last episode and it seems like we're getting

01:44:06.750 --> 01:44:09.770
our fill of them here that's the number of them

01:44:09.770 --> 01:44:12.810
that we've gotten so far i said there was a rule

01:44:12.810 --> 01:44:16.149
every five spots we have to do what then we remember

01:44:16.149 --> 01:44:20.149
uh go back somewhere 80s back in time we gotta

01:44:20.149 --> 01:44:21.970
go back all the way to the classic era so that's

01:44:21.970 --> 01:44:39.579
where we're going next 60. All right. Coming

01:44:39.579 --> 01:44:43.680
in next, that number 60, going back to the 60s.

01:44:44.000 --> 01:44:47.579
Fittingly enough. Foundational show to animation.

01:44:48.399 --> 01:44:50.640
Influence character animation, action timing,

01:44:50.699 --> 01:44:52.960
and humor structure. It's one of the earliest

01:44:52.960 --> 01:44:57.159
globally recognized animated icons. Its age and

01:44:57.159 --> 01:44:59.340
style may make it feel less relevant to modern

01:44:59.340 --> 01:45:01.600
audience, but often debated between top tier

01:45:01.600 --> 01:45:04.220
historical importance and maybe lower modern

01:45:04.220 --> 01:45:10.300
engagement. 1960 classic show. I had it ranked

01:45:10.300 --> 01:45:15.100
number 18. It falls here at number 60. Last.

01:45:15.760 --> 01:45:18.439
15 years ago, it was at 53, so it's fallen seven

01:45:18.439 --> 01:45:23.920
spots. Anybody have any guess to this 1960 animated

01:45:23.920 --> 01:45:28.460
icon? The Popeye the Sailor Man? It is Popeye

01:45:28.460 --> 01:45:31.859
the Sailor Man. Popeye the Sailor Man features

01:45:31.859 --> 01:45:36.979
here. 1960 show. Like I said, I obviously feel

01:45:36.979 --> 01:45:39.359
this should be top 50 minimum, but it comes in

01:45:39.359 --> 01:45:43.159
here at number 60. It is what it is. I'm glad

01:45:43.159 --> 01:45:44.760
it made the countdown. I'm glad it only slid

01:45:44.760 --> 01:45:46.819
seven spots, but I would have had it slide seven

01:45:46.819 --> 01:45:50.100
spots the other way into the top 50. So I just

01:45:50.100 --> 01:45:52.859
think it's that iconic and influential from an

01:45:52.859 --> 01:45:55.260
earlier standpoint, but I'll let you guys share

01:45:55.260 --> 01:45:57.079
your opinions. DJ, what do you think of Popeye

01:45:57.079 --> 01:45:59.539
the Sailor? I was upset because I think Jenda

01:45:59.539 --> 01:46:03.140
Tartofsky was going to do a kind of a remake

01:46:03.140 --> 01:46:05.840
of this, I believe, but it just fell apart. I

01:46:05.840 --> 01:46:07.899
think he just went to do Primal, but I mean,

01:46:07.979 --> 01:46:11.720
Popeye to me. I mean, I remember reading the

01:46:11.720 --> 01:46:14.640
comic strip and then I saw the Robin Williams

01:46:14.640 --> 01:46:17.399
movie directed by Robert Altman, of all people.

01:46:17.619 --> 01:46:21.239
And I loved it. And so Popeye, he's an icon.

01:46:22.039 --> 01:46:28.039
He's as iconic to me as the bunny Mickey Mouse

01:46:28.039 --> 01:46:30.000
because it's Popeye. You say Popeye and people

01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:31.640
know what the hell you're talking about. And

01:46:31.640 --> 01:46:34.859
he's the reason why I was forced to eat spinach

01:46:34.859 --> 01:46:37.239
when I was younger. And I hated spinach when

01:46:37.239 --> 01:46:40.399
I was younger. But yeah, yeah, Popeye's great.

01:46:40.939 --> 01:46:44.500
And he's not just the only one. That universe

01:46:44.500 --> 01:46:48.699
has some great characters in it. Olive Oil, Sweet

01:46:48.699 --> 01:46:51.300
Pea. Wimpy. Bluto is one of the greatest villains

01:46:51.300 --> 01:46:53.859
of all time. You got a whole bunch of stuff going

01:46:53.859 --> 01:46:57.500
on in there. Blimpy. Sorry, Blimpy. Wimpy. So

01:46:57.500 --> 01:47:02.140
yeah. I feel like Bluto and Olive Oil were like

01:47:02.140 --> 01:47:07.289
the precursors to, what, Darkseid? Darkseid?

01:47:08.510 --> 01:47:11.270
Lowest Lane or Wonder Woman or whatever it was.

01:47:11.550 --> 01:47:17.310
Wow, that's a jump. That is a jump. I want Darkseid

01:47:17.310 --> 01:47:20.729
vs. Voodoo immediately. Yeah, we need that immediately.

01:47:21.189 --> 01:47:23.569
That comes from my watching of Super Friends

01:47:23.569 --> 01:47:26.710
last year when there was a lot of interesting

01:47:26.710 --> 01:47:29.710
things that was trying to happen between Darkseid

01:47:29.710 --> 01:47:32.430
and... A female. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, wow.

01:47:32.630 --> 01:47:34.449
I see why you got one. You get a lot of that

01:47:34.449 --> 01:47:37.109
with Pluto and olive oil. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gotcha,

01:47:37.189 --> 01:47:38.770
gotcha. Mike, what do you think of Popeye the

01:47:38.770 --> 01:47:42.270
Sailor? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Love Popeye. Very awesome.

01:47:42.529 --> 01:47:44.789
Top 50 worthy or 60s good or what do you think?

01:47:48.050 --> 01:47:50.930
Closer to the 100 end? What do you think? I don't

01:47:50.930 --> 01:47:54.529
know. This is about good. Yeah. Steve, agree

01:47:54.529 --> 01:47:57.199
or disagree? i agree i think it's i think it's

01:47:57.199 --> 01:47:59.739
about good however it does have a massive episode

01:47:59.739 --> 01:48:02.979
count yeah a lot of spin -offs too like there

01:48:02.979 --> 01:48:06.239
was a lot of uh popeye and sons and then the

01:48:06.239 --> 01:48:08.180
new new popeye or something all new popeye i

01:48:08.180 --> 01:48:10.220
don't know there was lots of popeyes watch the

01:48:10.220 --> 01:48:12.800
movie with robin williams it's fantastic i do

01:48:12.800 --> 01:48:15.300
need to watch that now because i forgot guilty

01:48:15.300 --> 01:48:19.020
pleasure of mine well i don't think we've got

01:48:19.020 --> 01:48:21.079
enough of them so let's get some more adult animation

01:48:21.079 --> 01:48:25.930
next 59 morning citizen venture welcome to the

01:48:25.930 --> 01:48:28.329
neighborhood pass your bags white we're going

01:48:28.329 --> 01:48:32.390
to new york city coming in at number 59 a master

01:48:32.390 --> 01:48:35.529
class in long form storytelling and layered satire

01:48:35.529 --> 01:48:38.390
complexity though and continuity can make it

01:48:38.390 --> 01:48:42.569
less accessible to new viewers from 2004 adult

01:48:42.569 --> 01:48:46.890
swim show the venture brothers did not make our

01:48:46.890 --> 01:48:49.710
countdown 15 years ago is ranked 167 so it's

01:48:49.710 --> 01:48:52.020
climbed almost It's climbed over 100 spots to

01:48:52.020 --> 01:48:56.260
number 59. The Venture Brothers. Mike, any experience

01:48:56.260 --> 01:48:59.239
or what are your thoughts? Never seen it. What?

01:49:00.159 --> 01:49:03.680
Never seen it. Sorry. You've never seen it? I

01:49:03.680 --> 01:49:07.979
haven't even seen that. Bro, you have some homework

01:49:07.979 --> 01:49:11.060
to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We already revealed

01:49:11.060 --> 01:49:14.520
it. It's fine. Steve, what do you think? I think

01:49:14.520 --> 01:49:17.039
it's well -versed. It wasn't my favorite show,

01:49:17.180 --> 01:49:19.399
but it was one of those ones that was on Adult

01:49:19.399 --> 01:49:21.060
Swim and I would watch it just because it was

01:49:21.060 --> 01:49:26.239
goofy. The animation was pretty good. The jokes

01:49:26.239 --> 01:49:30.619
were funny. Hand -drawn animation. Some of it

01:49:30.619 --> 01:49:35.239
was meh. But overall, it wasn't bad. It was kind

01:49:35.239 --> 01:49:37.979
of entertaining to watch. yeah so we've had a

01:49:37.979 --> 01:49:40.140
couple adult swim shows here you know robot chicken

01:49:40.140 --> 01:49:42.260
i mean i technically reckon morning now we get

01:49:42.260 --> 01:49:45.020
the venture brothers dj what do you think of

01:49:45.020 --> 01:49:46.640
venture brothers and how it ranks amongst those

01:49:46.640 --> 01:49:49.979
other ones venture brothers is my number 11 it's

01:49:49.979 --> 01:49:52.279
one of the smart and steve is saying it's goofy

01:49:52.279 --> 01:49:53.880
because it is goofy there's scenes in there there

01:49:53.880 --> 01:49:58.100
brock samson is goofy it's hilarious but there's

01:49:58.100 --> 01:50:01.100
elements of that show where they'll be telling

01:50:01.100 --> 01:50:04.760
a joke that you'll have to look up to get it

01:50:04.760 --> 01:50:08.380
because it's a joke having to do with Plato telling

01:50:08.380 --> 01:50:11.199
a dissertation to somebody and they make a joke

01:50:11.199 --> 01:50:14.340
about it. If you're not paying attention, you

01:50:14.340 --> 01:50:17.140
don't even... This show is the show I tell people,

01:50:17.239 --> 01:50:18.300
like, if you want to watch Benjamin Brothers,

01:50:18.479 --> 01:50:20.159
you're going to watch it for three different

01:50:20.159 --> 01:50:21.640
levels. You're going to watch it for the animation,

01:50:21.880 --> 01:50:25.300
which is great, and the goofy Johnny Quest spinoff.

01:50:25.789 --> 01:50:28.289
Or you're going to watch it for the adultness

01:50:28.289 --> 01:50:30.270
where Brock Sampson is killing people in the

01:50:30.270 --> 01:50:32.189
way where you're just like, oh my God, this is

01:50:32.189 --> 01:50:34.789
uber violent and fun. And then you're going to

01:50:34.789 --> 01:50:36.310
be watching on a level where you're like, wait

01:50:36.310 --> 01:50:39.590
a minute, this, that joke is so high brow. I

01:50:39.590 --> 01:50:41.770
don't think I'm old enough to watch this show.

01:50:41.869 --> 01:50:44.770
It is so, it is one of the shows that I would

01:50:44.770 --> 01:50:47.869
put up there. If I tell you, just give it a chance,

01:50:48.050 --> 01:50:50.890
give it. And again, this is another light show.

01:50:50.989 --> 01:50:52.989
It's not, I mean, it's been going on forever

01:50:52.989 --> 01:50:54.390
and they have a YouTube channel where they just

01:50:54.390 --> 01:50:57.199
play it over and over again. give it to the first

01:50:57.199 --> 01:51:01.180
season where again if you and you guys like you

01:51:01.180 --> 01:51:03.539
dig it the most they're making gi joe references

01:51:03.539 --> 01:51:05.880
they're making transformer references they're

01:51:05.880 --> 01:51:07.880
making johnny quest references they're making

01:51:07.880 --> 01:51:10.899
and then they'll make a reference to socrates

01:51:10.899 --> 01:51:14.319
talking to some other guy but it it's all over

01:51:14.319 --> 01:51:18.039
the place in terms of what they hit but what

01:51:18.039 --> 01:51:21.239
they hit is very very i have never seen a cartoon

01:51:21.239 --> 01:51:24.819
show as smart and as funny as adventure brothers

01:51:24.819 --> 01:51:30.069
ever Name me something as smart as it. When the

01:51:30.069 --> 01:51:32.489
people who are writing it, I think I forget his

01:51:32.489 --> 01:51:34.829
name. God, I forget. He doesn't want to avoid.

01:51:34.930 --> 01:51:38.029
He does. And you got Dr. Girlfriend, who is a

01:51:38.029 --> 01:51:41.890
Jackie O ripoff, who sounds like Harvey Fierstein.

01:51:42.109 --> 01:51:44.689
Then you have the Monarch, who's essentially

01:51:44.689 --> 01:51:49.590
doing underhand jokes like he's a Batman villain,

01:51:49.670 --> 01:51:53.170
but then he's making jokes that only like Mark

01:51:53.170 --> 01:51:56.720
Twain would understand. well at least it was

01:51:56.720 --> 01:51:59.800
harvey firestein and not harvey weinstein yeah

01:51:59.800 --> 01:52:02.479
firestein he kind of talks like this dr girlfriend

01:52:02.479 --> 01:52:04.579
kind of talks like but she looks like jackie

01:52:04.579 --> 01:52:07.899
o which is like what's going on here so it's

01:52:07.899 --> 01:52:10.560
got the quirkiness of it but then if you like

01:52:10.560 --> 01:52:14.520
pay attention to the dialogue it is so high and

01:52:14.520 --> 01:52:16.460
then if you don't even care about that the fact

01:52:16.460 --> 01:52:18.699
that they have a gi joe spinoff and i think they're

01:52:18.699 --> 01:52:21.239
i i forget that i i'm gonna forget their names

01:52:21.239 --> 01:52:23.619
but they call it something else they have like

01:52:23.619 --> 01:52:26.619
shipwreck then they have Kevin Conroy as gay

01:52:26.619 --> 01:52:31.760
Batman. They have... Wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:52:32.000 --> 01:52:35.460
Kevin, the late, great, amazing Kevin. Yeah,

01:52:35.460 --> 01:52:40.359
absolutely. 100 % Kevin effing Conroy voices

01:52:40.359 --> 01:52:44.319
gay Batman on the show. You are lying. I am not

01:52:44.319 --> 01:52:49.060
lying. What I'm hearing is that this show gets

01:52:49.060 --> 01:52:52.430
the DJ seal of approval. If there was... if I

01:52:52.430 --> 01:52:55.689
had to be trapped in a desert island with one

01:52:55.689 --> 01:52:58.729
show to watch that would get my entertainment,

01:52:59.069 --> 01:53:01.289
Entry Brothers would be a strong consideration

01:53:01.289 --> 01:53:05.770
for me because you, one, every character has

01:53:05.770 --> 01:53:08.649
a lore hole. When I say lore hole, I mean, you

01:53:08.649 --> 01:53:12.170
could just, they delve into, if it's about Brock

01:53:12.170 --> 01:53:14.569
Sampson, if it's Dr. Girlfriend, if it's the

01:53:14.569 --> 01:53:19.970
Monarch, if it's the brothers, the, again, I'm

01:53:19.970 --> 01:53:23.020
not doing it justice. Just trust me. you trust

01:53:23.020 --> 01:53:27.340
me one season you will not regret it it is again

01:53:27.340 --> 01:53:32.279
right it's goofy but it's also very very smart

01:53:32.279 --> 01:53:36.279
sunshine oh he's captain sunshine yeah which

01:53:36.279 --> 01:53:42.579
is essentially gay batman so we've revealed 40

01:53:42.579 --> 01:53:46.060
percent over 40 percent of our list and so far

01:53:46.060 --> 01:53:51.859
we sit at six shows from the 1990s Let's do our

01:53:51.859 --> 01:53:56.119
best to change that next. 58. Excuse me, sir.

01:53:56.239 --> 01:54:00.239
Show's over. Get away, zit face. Excuse me, sir.

01:54:00.359 --> 01:54:03.479
The show's over. Is the snack bar still open?

01:54:03.960 --> 01:54:07.340
Excuse me, sir. The show's over. But I have nowhere

01:54:07.340 --> 01:54:12.920
to go. Number 58. Sometimes boosted by the canceled

01:54:12.920 --> 01:54:15.720
too soon status. Didn't have a long shelf life,

01:54:15.859 --> 01:54:21.149
but sharp satire. Of media culture that anticipated

01:54:21.149 --> 01:54:23.630
the rise of review culture and commentary driven

01:54:23.630 --> 01:54:27.050
entertainment. It's humor still resonates. It

01:54:27.050 --> 01:54:30.989
debuted on ABC. So another ABC entry here, number

01:54:30.989 --> 01:54:36.069
58 from 1994. We're revealing now the critic.

01:54:36.609 --> 01:54:43.210
It jumped from 68 to 58 on our countdown over

01:54:43.210 --> 01:54:46.569
the course of the last 15 years. So another intelligently

01:54:46.569 --> 01:54:50.060
written. animated series. Mike, what do you think

01:54:50.060 --> 01:54:53.000
of The Critic? Yeah, it was interesting at the

01:54:53.000 --> 01:54:57.500
time when it was out. I think it's probably one

01:54:57.500 --> 01:55:00.140
of the only, I think it's one of the only two

01:55:00.140 --> 01:55:05.060
John Lovitz things I actually enjoy. Mike's spreading

01:55:05.060 --> 01:55:07.039
the hate all around today's episode. What? What

01:55:07.039 --> 01:55:11.039
are you talking about? What the fuck? I'm going

01:55:11.039 --> 01:55:12.939
to have the John Lovitz fans coming after you.

01:55:13.020 --> 01:55:18.510
They like The Critic. Didn't like Pokemon. You're

01:55:18.510 --> 01:55:22.630
in trouble. I said, I didn't, I've never seen

01:55:22.630 --> 01:55:25.470
the Venture Brothers. I never said I didn't like

01:55:25.470 --> 01:55:27.930
the Venture Brothers. You said you detest the

01:55:27.930 --> 01:55:29.689
Venture Brothers. That's what you, I heard it.

01:55:29.729 --> 01:55:33.090
We had it recorded right now. You fucking liar.

01:55:35.090 --> 01:55:42.489
No, and I said, it's one of the, no, it's one

01:55:42.489 --> 01:55:45.800
of the three things. One of the three things

01:55:45.800 --> 01:55:47.899
that I've seen Lovitz in that I actually like.

01:55:47.939 --> 01:55:50.520
The other two things are A League of Their Own

01:55:50.520 --> 01:55:54.020
and High School High. He's a good wedding singer.

01:55:54.340 --> 01:55:56.880
He's a good wedding singer. They're losing their

01:55:56.880 --> 01:56:03.359
minds. Oh, that's right. I forgot. Okay, so one

01:56:03.359 --> 01:56:08.579
of four. Getting better by the minute. I used

01:56:08.579 --> 01:56:11.159
that line recently with a situation at work.

01:56:13.559 --> 01:56:17.239
They're losing their minds and I'm reaping all

01:56:17.239 --> 01:56:19.699
the benefits. Do you do the slow pullback of

01:56:19.699 --> 01:56:24.779
your head behind the curtain? My wife, like as

01:56:24.779 --> 01:56:26.979
a joke, like, and she's like, she caught the

01:56:26.979 --> 01:56:29.579
joke in the reference and I was like, it landed.

01:56:30.920 --> 01:56:34.060
There you go. This is, this is one of my favorite

01:56:34.060 --> 01:56:38.359
shows to be honest. I, I had that in my top 40

01:56:38.359 --> 01:56:41.539
just because I, I love this show. The, The humor

01:56:41.539 --> 01:56:43.720
in it, the fact that he's poking fun at crappy

01:56:43.720 --> 01:56:47.500
written movies, the fact that nobody likes him,

01:56:47.539 --> 01:56:50.460
but yet he's still giving his two cents on it.

01:56:50.539 --> 01:56:52.880
And he's completely honest and blunt, even though

01:56:52.880 --> 01:56:55.979
people are mad at him for doing it. I love that

01:56:55.979 --> 01:56:58.840
he says it stinks. And then the end of the episodes

01:56:58.840 --> 01:57:02.140
are always so funny because they change it every

01:57:02.140 --> 01:57:04.920
episode. Like when the credits are rolling and

01:57:04.920 --> 01:57:07.180
he's sitting in there and they're like. you know,

01:57:07.180 --> 01:57:09.399
sir, the theater's closed. And he's like, is

01:57:09.399 --> 01:57:15.199
the snack bar still open? Or like, sir, you can't

01:57:15.199 --> 01:57:17.460
stay here. And he's like, I have nowhere to go.

01:57:18.479 --> 01:57:21.600
Yep. You know, I mean, there's just so many,

01:57:21.619 --> 01:57:23.500
there's so many good clips of the show that I,

01:57:23.500 --> 01:57:27.979
I love this show. DJ agree or disagree. I love,

01:57:28.020 --> 01:57:30.439
I mean, I'm, this is pretty much a spinoff of

01:57:30.439 --> 01:57:32.140
the Simpsons because he showed up on an episode

01:57:32.140 --> 01:57:36.029
of Simpsons as well. And I, I was, getting into

01:57:36.029 --> 01:57:38.489
movies right when this show hit and the fact

01:57:38.489 --> 01:57:40.569
that it was like, we're going to do the Simpsons,

01:57:40.569 --> 01:57:42.729
but we're going to focus on the, the, the movie

01:57:42.729 --> 01:57:45.409
world. I was like, I'm in. And I, I love, I love

01:57:45.409 --> 01:57:48.529
that. I was, I remember this show, I guess getting

01:57:48.529 --> 01:57:50.550
canceled or just not coming back. And I was like,

01:57:50.609 --> 01:57:53.729
oh man, I love the critic. Why? I mean, more

01:57:53.729 --> 01:57:55.090
of the critic. And I think, I think it jumped

01:57:55.090 --> 01:57:57.569
networks first. I think it was like on one network

01:57:57.569 --> 01:57:59.869
and then it went to another. Oh man, I loved

01:57:59.869 --> 01:58:03.430
it. John Lovitz. I mean, I love them on SNL.

01:58:03.470 --> 01:58:06.000
So with this, him voicing the character I was

01:58:06.000 --> 01:58:08.979
like oh this is great yeah the critic and it

01:58:08.979 --> 01:58:12.199
holds up today you can still watch a lot of those

01:58:12.199 --> 01:58:16.840
episodes him trashing Hollywood probably holds

01:58:16.840 --> 01:58:19.159
up even less it's like wait a minute you're not

01:58:19.159 --> 01:58:22.500
hard enough you need to be more critical and

01:58:22.500 --> 01:58:25.899
then you get you get uh Orson Welles clips in

01:58:25.899 --> 01:58:29.359
there and uh it did jump four networks though

01:58:29.359 --> 01:58:32.659
it was on ABC it went to Fox it went to Comedy

01:58:32.659 --> 01:58:36.930
Central and then UPN I think I watched it from

01:58:36.930 --> 01:58:43.729
ABC to Fox. Was it new episodes on Comedy Central

01:58:43.729 --> 01:58:46.270
or did this rebroadcasting it on Comedy Central?

01:58:46.569 --> 01:58:48.670
They had it for a few months. Okay. Probably

01:58:48.670 --> 01:58:50.050
just a broadcast or something. I don't know.

01:58:51.210 --> 01:58:53.390
Yeah, a well -traveled show for sure. And it's

01:58:53.390 --> 01:58:55.609
another intelligently written one. So I have

01:58:55.609 --> 01:58:58.970
no problems with it being on our countdown. Let's

01:58:58.970 --> 01:59:00.750
go ahead and stick with the 90s, though, for

01:59:00.750 --> 01:59:13.000
our next one. 57. All right, number 57. I think

01:59:13.000 --> 01:59:14.720
some of you may guess the wrong show, but I'm

01:59:14.720 --> 01:59:16.739
going to say a defining show of youth culture

01:59:16.739 --> 01:59:19.640
that helped push animation into edgier, more

01:59:19.640 --> 01:59:23.100
rebellious territory, influenced an entire wave

01:59:23.100 --> 01:59:26.000
of adult animation, although some critics would

01:59:26.000 --> 01:59:31.510
say it was too crude and lacked depth. We're

01:59:31.510 --> 01:59:39.210
going with 1993. First entry with the MTV of

01:59:39.210 --> 01:59:45.069
Beavis and Butthead at number 57. So it was 26

01:59:45.069 --> 01:59:50.789
last time. It was in our top 26 15 years ago.

01:59:50.789 --> 01:59:55.609
It has fallen to number 57 this time. Do we have

01:59:55.609 --> 01:59:57.710
it on the right side of the 50 mark this time,

01:59:57.729 --> 02:00:00.380
or did we get it right 15 years ago, Steve? i

02:00:00.380 --> 02:00:02.119
i think it's where it needs to be i feel like

02:00:02.119 --> 02:00:04.819
there's other shows even that we've covered so

02:00:04.819 --> 02:00:07.439
far that could have been ahead of this yeah i

02:00:07.439 --> 02:00:09.859
had it ranked number 93 on my list i do still

02:00:09.859 --> 02:00:11.880
think it warrants like a spot on the countdown

02:00:11.880 --> 02:00:13.899
probably but i was having trouble getting it

02:00:13.899 --> 02:00:16.180
much higher than that so like for me it fell

02:00:16.180 --> 02:00:18.960
all the way down to 93 i'm not upset that it

02:00:18.960 --> 02:00:21.720
appears it may be a little too high for me but

02:00:21.720 --> 02:00:25.199
uh i'm not sure dj agree or disagree i again

02:00:25.199 --> 02:00:28.800
this is one of those shows where i was not i

02:00:28.800 --> 02:00:32.260
i understood its cultural relevance i've watched

02:00:32.260 --> 02:00:35.300
it a bunch i was more of a daria guy because

02:00:35.300 --> 02:00:38.699
i i like that uh and i think daria is a spin

02:00:38.699 --> 02:00:40.819
-off of beavis but if i do or at least it was

02:00:40.819 --> 02:00:42.659
on i know it's on mtv at the same time right

02:00:42.659 --> 02:00:48.880
but uh what they were so annoying to me i could

02:00:48.880 --> 02:00:52.680
not like stick into the show enough but as in

02:00:52.680 --> 02:00:56.840
terms of mtv and then they're they're the groundbreaking

02:00:56.840 --> 02:00:59.340
nature of that show. It's, it's, it's got, it's

02:00:59.340 --> 02:01:02.439
gotta be there because it put MTV, they had that.

02:01:02.460 --> 02:01:04.819
What is it? Two movies. I know they had one movie.

02:01:04.859 --> 02:01:07.939
He was about to do America. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

02:01:07.960 --> 02:01:11.680
But yeah, I, their humor wasn't my humor, but

02:01:11.680 --> 02:01:14.319
I mean, you cannot get at that. When that came

02:01:14.319 --> 02:01:16.140
out, you cannot get away from Beavis and butthead.

02:01:16.399 --> 02:01:19.899
Everybody had a shirt. Yeah. Mike, do you think

02:01:19.899 --> 02:01:24.479
it's worthy of still being on the top 100? Can

02:01:24.479 --> 02:01:28.159
I get number 103 in its place, please? That would

02:01:28.159 --> 02:01:32.920
be Young Justice. Wow. I like Young Justice.

02:01:32.979 --> 02:01:34.760
Again, you made some good trades today. I like

02:01:34.760 --> 02:01:38.739
these trades. I don't know how much the mass

02:01:38.739 --> 02:01:41.100
audience would agree with that or not. Their

02:01:41.100 --> 02:01:47.979
humor was okay for about 25 minutes, and then

02:01:47.979 --> 02:01:51.880
I didn't care for any. As a kid in the 90s, I

02:01:51.880 --> 02:01:54.989
was... when did it Dave what year did 93 you

02:01:54.989 --> 02:02:01.569
said right I was 13 what what DJ isn't king of

02:02:01.569 --> 02:02:03.550
the I couldn't remember if it was Daria or king

02:02:03.550 --> 02:02:04.689
of the hill that was a spin -off I think it was

02:02:04.689 --> 02:02:06.390
king of the hill that was a spin -off of Beavis

02:02:06.390 --> 02:02:09.949
and but I think Hank Hill might have been like

02:02:09.949 --> 02:02:11.630
their neighbor or something to that effect or

02:02:11.630 --> 02:02:17.680
he showed up originally on there Do America and

02:02:17.680 --> 02:02:20.939
do the universe. Do America was 96. Do the universe

02:02:20.939 --> 02:02:26.020
was 2022. That's too long between frigging films.

02:02:26.260 --> 02:02:31.199
Anyway, no, I just don't think, like I said,

02:02:31.359 --> 02:02:35.920
it's good for like a party trick. It was good

02:02:35.920 --> 02:02:40.140
for the time. No, seriously. In 2026, it's good

02:02:40.140 --> 02:02:43.159
for a nice little party trick. It's good. If

02:02:43.159 --> 02:02:48.180
you know the. i am cornelio if if you know the

02:02:48.180 --> 02:02:52.760
thing i did as a kid as a teenager in the 90s

02:02:52.760 --> 02:02:55.720
i didn't care for any of the music videos they

02:02:55.720 --> 02:02:58.979
were playing i think the thing that people would

02:02:58.979 --> 02:03:01.600
uh i think we're all somewhat in agreement on

02:03:01.600 --> 02:03:04.000
like it should be placed closer to the in the

02:03:04.000 --> 02:03:05.579
hundred mark or whatever but i think the argument

02:03:05.579 --> 02:03:07.460
that would be made by the other side of the coin

02:03:07.460 --> 02:03:10.300
would be not on its quality specifically but

02:03:10.300 --> 02:03:13.899
on what it did for pushing the edge and allowing

02:03:13.899 --> 02:03:16.880
uh you know the next wave of adult animation

02:03:16.880 --> 02:03:19.779
whether you're a fan of that or not is is kind

02:03:19.779 --> 02:03:21.899
of beside the point that it did do that right

02:03:21.899 --> 02:03:24.319
like it did open the door for adult swimming

02:03:24.319 --> 02:03:26.720
groundbreaking groundbreaking show a lot of that

02:03:26.720 --> 02:03:28.779
so i think that's what people would argue for

02:03:28.779 --> 02:03:30.500
as far as in its favor but like i said i had

02:03:30.500 --> 02:03:33.420
it at 93 so um either way it has made our top

02:03:33.420 --> 02:03:36.380
100 countdown once again and for the third in

02:03:36.380 --> 02:03:41.920
a row we're going to stick with the 90s 56 What

02:03:41.920 --> 02:03:52.880
a fine day for science. All right, next up, number

02:03:52.880 --> 02:03:55.760
56 from 1996. I'm just going to let Mike talk

02:03:55.760 --> 02:03:58.779
about this one because I am not a fan. It did

02:03:58.779 --> 02:04:01.060
not make my countdown, but I get that a lot of

02:04:01.060 --> 02:04:03.739
people love it. A cornerstone of the Cartoon

02:04:03.739 --> 02:04:07.119
Network Renaissance, helping establish a creator

02:04:07.119 --> 02:04:10.760
-driven model that shaped modern animation. Visual

02:04:10.760 --> 02:04:14.180
style and humor were highly influential. Later

02:04:14.180 --> 02:04:16.859
seasons may have dropped in quality, but early

02:04:16.859 --> 02:04:19.399
impact maybe deserves this high of a ranking.

02:04:19.539 --> 02:04:21.939
I'm not a fan. I know, Mike, you are. So 1996

02:04:21.939 --> 02:04:25.939
from Cartoon Network, Dexter's Laboratory. You

02:04:25.939 --> 02:04:32.079
said you don't like Dexter's Laboratory? I do

02:04:32.079 --> 02:04:36.079
not. He's a troglodyte. Don't worry. He's a troglodyte.

02:04:37.289 --> 02:04:40.229
yeah i can anger fan groups he doesn't understand

02:04:40.229 --> 02:04:44.029
the nuance of dexter dd and laboratory there's

02:04:44.029 --> 02:04:46.670
no power without power without dexter's little

02:04:46.670 --> 02:04:52.229
samurai jack exactly i was there is no cartoon

02:04:52.229 --> 02:04:55.090
network which would be fine which would be fine

02:04:55.090 --> 02:04:58.329
with me oh my god what is wrong i would be totally

02:04:58.329 --> 02:05:02.170
okay with that oh you son of a gun like i don't

02:05:02.170 --> 02:05:05.550
necessarily appreciate the cartoon network uh

02:05:05.550 --> 02:05:09.449
quadrant of the animated you know i don't like

02:05:09.449 --> 02:05:12.270
this style of animation i haven't liked most

02:05:12.270 --> 02:05:14.489
of the shows it also came out kind of when i

02:05:14.489 --> 02:05:17.130
was like out of cartoons for a while like oh

02:05:17.130 --> 02:05:25.010
my god uh i'm gonna do fromage nothing no nothing

02:05:25.010 --> 02:05:28.010
for me i get that i'm in the minority and i was

02:05:28.010 --> 02:05:30.350
like 15 16 when this came out i was on to other

02:05:30.350 --> 02:05:33.199
things I didn't come back to animation until

02:05:33.199 --> 02:05:38.239
maybe a decade later. So here's where I was in

02:05:38.239 --> 02:05:42.420
1996. Did you say a month or whatever? Did you

02:05:42.420 --> 02:05:45.880
say an actual date? No, it was 96. Oh, crap.

02:05:46.159 --> 02:05:49.020
That means I have to do the research. I don't

02:05:49.020 --> 02:05:52.939
think it's important. No, it's important. It

02:05:52.939 --> 02:05:54.399
was on eight of the nine lists that we looked

02:05:54.399 --> 02:05:56.239
at. So I know it's a universal appeal. Well,

02:05:56.300 --> 02:05:58.420
Mike's picking that up. Steve, thoughts on Dexter's

02:05:58.420 --> 02:06:01.079
Laboratory? I actually didn't list it, but it

02:06:01.079 --> 02:06:02.720
was more so because I had so many other shows

02:06:02.720 --> 02:06:06.020
that I wanted to add in my list. I did enjoy

02:06:06.020 --> 02:06:08.180
it at the time when it came out, as well as a

02:06:08.180 --> 02:06:11.340
lot of the other Gennady Tartakovsky programs.

02:06:13.260 --> 02:06:16.279
Each one got a little bit more edgier and different.

02:06:16.579 --> 02:06:18.699
I mean, it started during the What a Cartoon

02:06:18.699 --> 02:06:22.680
era, too, which consequently also started Seth

02:06:22.680 --> 02:06:26.319
MacFarlane with the precursor to Family Guy.

02:06:26.859 --> 02:06:29.640
And we got Johnny Bravo. We got Dexter's Lab.

02:06:29.880 --> 02:06:33.300
We got Powerpuff Girls. We got all kinds of different

02:06:33.300 --> 02:06:36.020
stuff in there in that block. And I enjoyed them

02:06:36.020 --> 02:06:38.880
all to different degrees. They weren't like my

02:06:38.880 --> 02:06:42.899
go -to shows, but in a pinch of like, I want

02:06:42.899 --> 02:06:44.880
to watch cartoons. I knew I could turn those

02:06:44.880 --> 02:06:46.939
on and I could watch them and, you know, halfway

02:06:46.939 --> 02:06:50.239
decently enjoy them. You know, Dial M for Monkey

02:06:50.239 --> 02:06:53.359
or the, you know, the Justice Friends. Yeah.

02:06:55.960 --> 02:07:00.680
Major Glory. Major Glory, voiced by Rob Paulson.

02:07:01.020 --> 02:07:04.979
A wall fight between what you would call Dee

02:07:04.979 --> 02:07:07.899
and Dexter and the mom and the dad. Mom is the

02:07:07.899 --> 02:07:10.359
best snowball fighter of all of them. Put the

02:07:10.359 --> 02:07:13.420
snowball down, dear. Yeah, put the snowball down,

02:07:13.439 --> 02:07:18.659
dear. You're not going to win. I mean, I feel

02:07:18.659 --> 02:07:22.289
like it's deserved. I don't necessarily... know

02:07:22.289 --> 02:07:24.569
if it belongs this high but at the same time

02:07:24.569 --> 02:07:26.810
like i don't i don't disagree with it being on

02:07:26.810 --> 02:07:28.689
the list because it was kind of that show that

02:07:28.689 --> 02:07:30.930
brought us the rest of the stuff that showed

02:07:30.930 --> 02:07:34.789
up on cartoon network later so it ran from it

02:07:34.789 --> 02:07:38.850
had two release dates but it ran from 96 to 2003

02:07:38.850 --> 02:07:44.270
overall it was released april 27th or so in 96

02:07:44.270 --> 02:07:50.770
and At that time, I was in the middle of going

02:07:50.770 --> 02:07:57.109
through whatever state run placement I was going

02:07:57.109 --> 02:07:59.909
through. So I was a ward of the state in Kentucky

02:07:59.909 --> 02:08:03.329
at the time. Wasn't living with my mom, wasn't

02:08:03.329 --> 02:08:06.729
living with my dad. I was a state kid at the

02:08:06.729 --> 02:08:11.979
time. So I was 16 and just like you said, Kev,

02:08:11.979 --> 02:08:15.300
I was kind of out of cartoons. I was focusing

02:08:15.300 --> 02:08:17.960
on other things. I was doing whatever, but I

02:08:17.960 --> 02:08:22.000
would catch cartoons here or there. And I was

02:08:22.000 --> 02:08:24.640
more so looking for whatever Transformers thing

02:08:24.640 --> 02:08:28.220
or whatever other superhero DCAU Batman thing.

02:08:28.479 --> 02:08:31.399
And this just kind of caught on because it was

02:08:31.399 --> 02:08:37.640
a kid genius with. evil older sister that she's

02:08:37.640 --> 02:08:40.319
not really evil dd's not evil but like annoying

02:08:40.319 --> 02:08:43.899
she's annoying older sister and i'm an only child

02:08:43.899 --> 02:08:46.479
so i never really had that i had cousins who

02:08:46.479 --> 02:08:48.800
kind of even though i'm the oldest out of all

02:08:48.800 --> 02:08:52.140
my cousins who but i had annoying cousins and

02:08:52.140 --> 02:08:55.340
everything else so i just and dexter's accent

02:08:55.340 --> 02:08:59.100
and He has a laboratory and he wants to go down

02:08:59.100 --> 02:09:01.180
and invent a bunch of things. And he has this

02:09:01.180 --> 02:09:08.560
evil nemesis. It was just fun. And like Steve

02:09:08.560 --> 02:09:11.479
mentioned earlier about, you know, just us friends

02:09:11.479 --> 02:09:14.680
and major glory and, and all that, it was just

02:09:14.680 --> 02:09:18.420
a fun, fun show. And I think during those times,

02:09:18.460 --> 02:09:23.939
uh, between 95 and 99, when I was in state's

02:09:23.939 --> 02:09:28.300
custody, I needed something. that was that kind

02:09:28.300 --> 02:09:36.659
of fun and it was just cool so yeah final thoughts

02:09:36.659 --> 02:09:39.779
dj on dexter's laboratory i'll tell this is my

02:09:39.779 --> 02:09:41.720
number 14 by the way i love dexter's laboratory

02:09:41.720 --> 02:09:43.579
jenner trotovsky it's one of my favorites uh

02:09:43.579 --> 02:09:46.100
i'll tell a little story uh i used to work at

02:09:46.100 --> 02:09:49.640
the ymca i was a counselor and i was in charge

02:09:49.640 --> 02:09:51.399
of the eight -year -olds and i had a little kid

02:09:51.399 --> 02:09:54.859
he was french he was very sad because he only

02:09:54.859 --> 02:09:57.930
spoke french and like we would get him to play

02:09:57.930 --> 02:09:59.649
and stuff and he wouldn't he would play but he

02:09:59.649 --> 02:10:02.050
was kind of like and then one day i saw an episode

02:10:02.050 --> 02:10:04.210
of dexter's laboratory where they make dexter

02:10:04.210 --> 02:10:07.210
only say omelette du fromage that's all you can

02:10:07.210 --> 02:10:10.029
say that didi like one of his experiments goes

02:10:10.029 --> 02:10:12.770
haywire and all dexter can say is omelette du

02:10:12.770 --> 02:10:14.930
fromage which i think is cheese omelette i believe

02:10:14.930 --> 02:10:17.850
so i walked up to this french kid the next day

02:10:17.850 --> 02:10:21.109
and i said omelette du fromage and the smile

02:10:21.109 --> 02:10:25.189
on this kid's face just to hear me say something

02:10:25.189 --> 02:10:28.789
in French to him, the rest of the summer camp,

02:10:29.029 --> 02:10:33.229
he would run up to me and scream, omelette du

02:10:33.229 --> 02:10:36.069
fromage, every single time. Eight -year -old

02:10:36.069 --> 02:10:38.409
kid. That would have never happened without me

02:10:38.409 --> 02:10:41.029
watching an episode of Dexter's Laboratory where

02:10:41.029 --> 02:10:43.130
Dexter is forced to say omelette du fromage.

02:10:43.229 --> 02:10:45.369
His name is Stephen Orsini. I remember it vividly.

02:10:46.210 --> 02:10:49.890
Because he was just a nice, quiet kid, but nobody

02:10:49.890 --> 02:10:53.949
spoke French. He didn't speak English. We bonded

02:10:53.949 --> 02:10:56.270
over Amelie du Fromage from Dexter's Laboratory.

02:10:56.430 --> 02:10:58.130
So thank you, Dexter's Laboratory. Thank you,

02:10:58.130 --> 02:11:01.869
Jenny Tartowski. Yeah, I like it. All right.

02:11:01.989 --> 02:11:04.569
That means there's only five spots left for today's

02:11:04.569 --> 02:11:06.649
episode. So we'll see where we go next. Hint,

02:11:06.710 --> 02:11:10.369
we're going to stay in the 90s. 55. Disney's

02:11:10.369 --> 02:11:13.850
Tailspin. In Hot Air Baloo, Becky takes over

02:11:13.850 --> 02:11:17.760
when Baloo gets grounded. But Baloo shows us

02:11:17.760 --> 02:11:20.479
you can't keep a good bear out of the air. All

02:11:20.479 --> 02:11:23.340
right, from 1990, let's go to the wonderful world

02:11:23.340 --> 02:11:28.359
of Disney once again. I don't know what the thought

02:11:28.359 --> 02:11:31.119
process will be on this one. Some will say it's

02:11:31.119 --> 02:11:33.539
often overshadowed by other superior shows that

02:11:33.539 --> 02:11:36.560
came in the Disney afternoon. Some will call

02:11:36.560 --> 02:11:38.920
it underrated, others mid -tier. So I think it's

02:11:38.920 --> 02:11:41.420
going to be all across the spectrum on this one.

02:11:41.500 --> 02:11:44.670
It has fallen. quite a bit it was 34 last time

02:11:44.670 --> 02:11:48.470
around 15 years ago now it is 55 from 1990 we're

02:11:48.470 --> 02:11:53.210
talking about tailspin here 55 steve you first

02:11:53.210 --> 02:11:56.550
tailspin i love this show like the animation

02:11:56.550 --> 02:12:01.270
the theme just you know baloo the cheer con you

02:12:01.270 --> 02:12:04.430
know like all these guys like it it was so much

02:12:04.430 --> 02:12:07.949
fun to watch like i feel like the we had a lot

02:12:07.949 --> 02:12:11.350
of good animated series from disney between the

02:12:11.350 --> 02:12:15.369
80s and 90s yep and this is one of them like

02:12:15.369 --> 02:12:21.569
i i genuinely enjoyed it yeah i agree i i think

02:12:21.569 --> 02:12:23.789
it was a good show um the question then becomes

02:12:23.789 --> 02:12:27.069
like when we go to disney so we already had the

02:12:27.069 --> 02:12:31.350
adventures of the gummy bears which was 95 and

02:12:31.350 --> 02:12:37.439
now we get tailspin at 55 um Is it one of the

02:12:37.439 --> 02:12:39.859
better from the Disney afternoon? DJ, where do

02:12:39.859 --> 02:12:41.479
you think it stands as far as like, where should

02:12:41.479 --> 02:12:43.180
it be in the top 100 if you think it belongs

02:12:43.180 --> 02:12:46.539
here at all? It's number 20 on my list under

02:12:46.539 --> 02:12:49.039
which I think is the better one. I will not name

02:12:49.039 --> 02:12:51.399
it because I have assumed it has not been named

02:12:51.399 --> 02:12:54.699
yet. You can make another show, you guys, just

02:12:54.699 --> 02:12:58.960
based on which show has the best theme song and

02:12:58.960 --> 02:13:01.619
have a hundred list. And I think Tailspin was

02:13:01.619 --> 02:13:04.319
still land number 20 right behind the one that.

02:13:04.800 --> 02:13:07.439
disney afternoon one that i think is one spot

02:13:07.439 --> 02:13:10.239
better than this because their theme song i think

02:13:10.239 --> 02:13:12.520
is the greatest one of the greatest theme songs

02:13:12.520 --> 02:13:16.420
of all time but talesman is right there uh the

02:13:16.420 --> 02:13:19.920
show is great in terms of you know it's fun it's

02:13:19.920 --> 02:13:22.359
disney it's baloo it's jungle book but they switched

02:13:22.359 --> 02:13:24.640
it on his head where blue is now like kind of

02:13:24.640 --> 02:13:27.119
this han solo type character kid crowd kicker

02:13:27.119 --> 02:13:29.979
and you're kind of a businessman but he's kind

02:13:29.979 --> 02:13:33.060
of like a like american psycho kind of businessman

02:13:33.060 --> 02:13:38.109
but To me, when you say Tailspin, the first thing

02:13:38.109 --> 02:13:41.909
that pops in my head is the song. The song is

02:13:41.909 --> 02:13:44.949
goated, as the kids say. It is one of the greatest

02:13:44.949 --> 02:13:47.890
theme songs of all time. The only song that beats

02:13:47.890 --> 02:13:50.970
it is probably for the one that I have right

02:13:50.970 --> 02:13:55.569
before it. Let's get dangerous. No, no, no, no,

02:13:55.569 --> 02:13:57.069
no, no. That's not what he's talking about at

02:13:57.069 --> 02:13:59.409
all. That's not what he's talking about at all.

02:13:59.430 --> 02:14:01.010
And I would also put the gummy bears in there,

02:14:01.050 --> 02:14:05.159
too. Wait, wait, wait. There's a song better

02:14:05.159 --> 02:14:06.819
than that. Oh, you're talking about the other

02:14:06.819 --> 02:14:10.579
duck. I'm talking about another mallard. Anybody

02:14:10.579 --> 02:14:16.180
else? Any thoughts on Tailspin? That's a discussion

02:14:16.180 --> 02:14:19.239
for another day. I like Tailspin. Tailspin is

02:14:19.239 --> 02:14:22.880
awesome. It's so interesting, that show. So fun.

02:14:23.659 --> 02:14:31.260
Don Carnage is a very misunderstood pirate. Fair

02:14:31.260 --> 02:14:34.189
enough. Anybody else? Last thought on Tailspin,

02:14:34.210 --> 02:14:36.649
or should we move on to the next one? Let's go.

02:14:37.710 --> 02:14:39.750
All right, let's stick with the 90s, but this

02:14:39.750 --> 02:14:41.670
time let's reveal somebody's number one overall

02:14:41.670 --> 02:14:45.989
pick. 54. You also have to find the other guardians

02:14:45.989 --> 02:14:51.449
and our princess. I wish I could go back to being

02:14:51.449 --> 02:14:54.670
just a normal girl. You're the guardian that's

02:14:54.670 --> 02:14:57.569
been chosen for this mission. Alright, next up

02:14:57.569 --> 02:15:01.729
is number 54. One person's number one overall

02:15:01.729 --> 02:15:04.350
pick altogether. We're going to stay with the

02:15:04.350 --> 02:15:08.210
90s. How about a global phenomenon that helped

02:15:08.210 --> 02:15:13.289
define this may give it away the magical girl

02:15:13.289 --> 02:15:16.930
genre and expand anime's reach in her international

02:15:16.930 --> 02:15:20.569
influencing storytelling fashion and representation.

02:15:21.369 --> 02:15:23.409
Some say it has some pacing issues and there

02:15:23.409 --> 02:15:25.029
were some filler episodes that could have affected

02:15:25.029 --> 02:15:27.430
your experience, but Others would say it belongs

02:15:27.430 --> 02:15:29.489
significantly higher than we have it due to its

02:15:29.489 --> 02:15:33.149
global impact. Did some of you guys say it? I

02:15:33.149 --> 02:15:37.210
wasn't paying attention. Number 54 is Sailor

02:15:37.210 --> 02:15:42.909
Moon. Wow. Last time it was 58. This time it

02:15:42.909 --> 02:15:46.829
is 54. So we've had it in the 50s both times.

02:15:46.909 --> 02:15:51.529
It was one person's number one overall. Thoughts

02:15:51.529 --> 02:15:55.840
on 1992 Sailor Moon? DJ, you go first. um sailor

02:15:55.840 --> 02:15:58.319
moon it's it's kind of landing in the speed racer

02:15:58.319 --> 02:16:01.020
category for me where it's like yeah this is

02:16:01.020 --> 02:16:04.479
groundbreaking i don't know if and they go to

02:16:04.479 --> 02:16:06.979
any con you're gonna see a zillion sailor moons

02:16:06.979 --> 02:16:10.579
and yeah what's the name of the guy the tuxedo

02:16:10.579 --> 02:16:15.579
with the mask is that his name yes what's the

02:16:15.579 --> 02:16:18.279
name of the guy the tuxedo with the mask he says

02:16:18.279 --> 02:16:22.100
his name is fantastic fantastic That was a shot

02:16:22.100 --> 02:16:25.079
in the dark. But no, it's culturally significant.

02:16:25.380 --> 02:16:27.739
It's groundbreaking in terms of that. But would

02:16:27.739 --> 02:16:31.579
I watch Sailor Moon again? Probably not. But

02:16:31.579 --> 02:16:38.100
again, I don't like Michael Jordan, but I know

02:16:38.100 --> 02:16:42.239
Michael Jordan was good. So I put my hands up

02:16:42.239 --> 02:16:47.020
and go, yeah, I understand Sailor Moon. Fair

02:16:47.020 --> 02:16:50.729
enough. Mike, any thoughts on Sailor Moon? um

02:16:50.729 --> 02:16:53.790
i watched the show back when it was on but i

02:16:53.790 --> 02:16:57.889
haven't seen it in a long time but uh having

02:16:57.889 --> 02:17:03.190
it at uh 54 gained a little ground who knows

02:17:03.190 --> 02:17:06.690
when we do this in another 40 years maybe it'll

02:17:06.690 --> 02:17:10.709
go up another four spots steve what do you think

02:17:10.709 --> 02:17:14.110
final thoughts on sailor moon uh I didn't watch

02:17:14.110 --> 02:17:16.270
this a whole lot, but I do see the significance

02:17:16.270 --> 02:17:18.690
of it. And it was probably the first anime that

02:17:18.690 --> 02:17:23.629
I saw before Dragon Ball Z. So, yeah, I remember

02:17:23.629 --> 02:17:26.190
catching it and it was just on. I don't know

02:17:26.190 --> 02:17:28.850
if it was UPN or Fox or something. It was on

02:17:28.850 --> 02:17:31.430
one of those stations because I caught it around

02:17:31.430 --> 02:17:33.750
other shows I was watching and I just watched

02:17:33.750 --> 02:17:37.409
it out of just mild curiosity. Didn't have any

02:17:37.409 --> 02:17:39.389
issues with it. And I thought it was kind of

02:17:39.389 --> 02:17:42.530
cool with the powers and everything. it does

02:17:42.530 --> 02:17:47.030
have a very anime vibe to the whole thing. But

02:17:47.030 --> 02:17:49.149
I think that also is kind of what softened me

02:17:49.149 --> 02:17:51.750
up for when Dragon Ball Z came along because

02:17:51.750 --> 02:17:53.409
you had the fighting, you had the powers, you

02:17:53.409 --> 02:17:57.809
had all that stuff. So I think that it definitely

02:17:57.809 --> 02:18:03.049
belongs in this list as one of the kind of staples

02:18:03.049 --> 02:18:06.870
of anime and staples of animation. Another pretty

02:18:06.870 --> 02:18:10.559
good theme song as well. Yes. There's a lot of

02:18:10.559 --> 02:18:13.200
that. We should do a top 100 theme song. I gave

02:18:13.200 --> 02:18:16.659
you the idea. I want my 15%. Yeah, you can join

02:18:16.659 --> 02:18:20.879
us. DJ, you were going to be one of my... If

02:18:20.879 --> 02:18:23.340
it ever happened, I have a whole theme song show

02:18:23.340 --> 02:18:25.500
that you were going to be one of my main guests

02:18:25.500 --> 02:18:32.500
on. Bro? I'd be ecstatic. One day. That means

02:18:32.500 --> 02:18:34.340
there's only three more spots on this side of

02:18:34.340 --> 02:18:44.840
the 50 mark. Let's see who takes them. 53. All

02:18:44.840 --> 02:18:50.719
right. For once in the last five shows, we're

02:18:50.719 --> 02:18:53.340
going to get out of the 90s. So we had only had

02:18:53.340 --> 02:18:55.139
six the whole time, and then we got five in a

02:18:55.139 --> 02:18:58.440
row. It also meant that we went six shows in

02:18:58.440 --> 02:19:01.950
between our last one that was pre -1980s. So

02:19:01.950 --> 02:19:04.290
let's go back there here for number 53. This

02:19:04.290 --> 02:19:06.569
should give it away, but just in case, I want

02:19:06.569 --> 02:19:08.909
to see how you guys do. A unique blend of education

02:19:08.909 --> 02:19:11.829
and entertainment with songs that became part

02:19:11.829 --> 02:19:14.590
of cultural memory demonstrates animation's ability

02:19:14.590 --> 02:19:17.329
to influence learning at scale, but some would

02:19:17.329 --> 02:19:19.149
say it's not traditional narrative series, which

02:19:19.149 --> 02:19:21.110
makes it hard to compare to the rest of the shows

02:19:21.110 --> 02:19:24.729
that we have on our countdown. Any guesses for

02:19:24.729 --> 02:19:29.290
our number 53? What year was this? 1973. I know

02:19:29.290 --> 02:19:34.240
what it is, but I can't remember the name. burning

02:19:34.240 --> 02:19:39.579
conjunction junction that's part of it yeah why

02:19:39.579 --> 02:19:47.379
can't i remember the name how about uh a show

02:19:47.379 --> 02:19:53.149
that aired on yes schoolhouse rock Another one

02:19:53.149 --> 02:19:57.010
that aired originally on ABC. Is that something

02:19:57.010 --> 02:20:00.590
we need to make kids watch again? Yes, yes. Schoolhouse

02:20:00.590 --> 02:20:03.729
Rock. Yep. What are you guys' thoughts for an

02:20:03.729 --> 02:20:07.069
educational slash entertainment series here from

02:20:07.069 --> 02:20:10.590
1973 coming in at number 53? DJ, what do you

02:20:10.590 --> 02:20:13.069
think? Made us watch these in school, so I was

02:20:13.069 --> 02:20:16.309
kind of like, eh. But it was kind of like, well,

02:20:16.450 --> 02:20:19.329
I don't have to do any work. But yeah, I remember

02:20:19.329 --> 02:20:21.940
the... It worked because I remember that Bill

02:20:21.940 --> 02:20:26.319
on Capitol Hill song. Right. I think I've only

02:20:26.319 --> 02:20:29.559
seen that once in my life, but it did stay with

02:20:29.559 --> 02:20:33.360
me. But yeah, in terms of what it did, I learned

02:20:33.360 --> 02:20:37.219
more from probably shows like Sesame Street and

02:20:37.219 --> 02:20:43.299
stuff like that. Mr. Rogers. Mr. Rogers was there,

02:20:43.399 --> 02:20:45.940
but Mr. Rogers was kind of like a vibe. But yeah,

02:20:46.059 --> 02:20:49.829
Schoolhouse Rock. When you see it, it kind of

02:20:49.829 --> 02:20:51.850
gives you the warm and fuzzies of, oh, remember

02:20:51.850 --> 02:20:55.290
the 70s? I was born in the 70s. Remember the

02:20:55.290 --> 02:20:58.670
70s, you know, right out of Vietnam? Thank God.

02:21:01.389 --> 02:21:04.569
We're kind of like getting over the 60s. We're

02:21:04.569 --> 02:21:06.670
kind of coming off that high. Let's learn some

02:21:06.670 --> 02:21:08.270
stuff. That's what kind of schoolhouse rock is.

02:21:09.049 --> 02:21:12.030
A decent climb for this one. If I have my data

02:21:12.030 --> 02:21:14.690
correct, I believe last time this one lost in

02:21:14.690 --> 02:21:18.530
a tiebreaker for the 100th spot. And this time

02:21:18.530 --> 02:21:22.290
it gets 53. So that's almost a 50 spot to jump

02:21:22.290 --> 02:21:26.629
here. Interesting for me, I voted it a number

02:21:26.629 --> 02:21:29.370
55 and it came in here at 53. I had sailor moon

02:21:29.370 --> 02:21:31.790
at 51 and schoolhouse rock at 55. So I'm feeling

02:21:31.790 --> 02:21:35.049
good about the last two. So, um, Mike, last thoughts

02:21:35.049 --> 02:21:39.010
on schoolhouse rock. Got to learn about them

02:21:39.010 --> 02:21:42.069
bills that turn into those laws. Yeah. Sitting

02:21:42.069 --> 02:21:45.139
on Capitol Hill, man. Come on. All right. All

02:21:45.139 --> 02:21:47.100
right, that leaves only two spots left. Let's

02:21:47.100 --> 02:21:53.899
see what's next. 52. I sense a plot to destroy

02:21:53.899 --> 02:22:00.579
the Jedi. Great care we must take. For number

02:22:00.579 --> 02:22:03.040
52, we're going to have our first franchise with

02:22:03.040 --> 02:22:06.719
a third entrant. Get the wheels turning a little

02:22:06.719 --> 02:22:10.500
bit. Significantly deepened this franchise's

02:22:10.500 --> 02:22:12.559
universe, adding emotional and narrative weight

02:22:12.559 --> 02:22:14.959
to characters and events. Proved animation could

02:22:14.959 --> 02:22:18.799
carry major franchise storytelling. From 2008.

02:22:20.760 --> 02:22:23.159
Some may say this should not have been revealed

02:22:23.159 --> 02:22:27.440
yet, but we'll see. We've had Clone Wars, we've

02:22:27.440 --> 02:22:31.540
had Rebels, and now we have The Clone Wars at

02:22:31.540 --> 02:22:35.420
number 52. The 2008 Cartoon Network Lucasfilm

02:22:35.420 --> 02:22:40.079
vehicle, Star Wars, The Clone Wars. I would have

02:22:40.079 --> 02:22:42.459
had it much higher. I had it number 10 overall.

02:22:43.040 --> 02:22:46.920
But it is coming in here at 52. Mike, what do

02:22:46.920 --> 02:22:53.280
you think? So I went on a deep dive when Disney

02:22:53.280 --> 02:22:57.799
Plus first started way back when. And right before

02:22:57.799 --> 02:23:00.180
everything shut down, I went on a deep dive and

02:23:00.180 --> 02:23:03.579
watched everything I could with Star Wars animation.

02:23:04.180 --> 02:23:08.399
And I binge watched this entire series. Really?

02:23:08.879 --> 02:23:16.530
Yeah. If I had my old Twitter account, I actually

02:23:16.530 --> 02:23:21.370
had a whole thread where I literally did a whole

02:23:21.370 --> 02:23:26.190
thing as I was watching. Yeah, I binge -watched

02:23:26.190 --> 02:23:28.409
the whole thing, and I absolutely love this series.

02:23:28.750 --> 02:23:32.049
This series was so cool, so awesome. I absolutely

02:23:32.049 --> 02:23:35.549
love the characters. Ahsoka is amazing. Ahsoka's

02:23:35.549 --> 02:23:39.100
great. What? that's no i said so it was great

02:23:39.100 --> 02:23:41.239
because i've originally when i watched the movie

02:23:41.239 --> 02:23:45.920
i hated her and that show made me like her a

02:23:45.920 --> 02:23:48.620
lot yeah absolutely the show is so much better

02:23:48.620 --> 02:23:51.719
uh i think it should be a little higher maybe

02:23:51.719 --> 02:23:57.639
45 but 52 is okay uh yeah no star wars the clone

02:23:57.639 --> 02:23:59.870
wars absolutely love it I think it should be

02:23:59.870 --> 02:24:02.170
in our final episode where we do the 25 through

02:24:02.170 --> 02:24:05.250
one, but that hasn't happened 15 years ago or

02:24:05.250 --> 02:24:07.229
this time around because 15 years ago it was

02:24:07.229 --> 02:24:10.770
at 49. This time it's at 52. Steve, does that

02:24:10.770 --> 02:24:13.209
mean we have it right around the 50 mark? Is

02:24:13.209 --> 02:24:14.790
this the right spot or what are your opinions

02:24:14.790 --> 02:24:17.209
on the Clone Wars? I'm kind of torn because like

02:24:17.209 --> 02:24:20.069
I do agree this show is awesome and there's a

02:24:20.069 --> 02:24:22.229
lot of great storytelling and mythos in this.

02:24:22.950 --> 02:24:32.950
I. I think that. While it's good, I don't know.

02:24:33.069 --> 02:24:36.489
I'm so torn on it. I do feel like it should have

02:24:36.489 --> 02:24:39.709
been at least in the next episode, though, for

02:24:39.709 --> 02:24:43.170
where it lands. This one seems like it's like,

02:24:43.229 --> 02:24:48.950
I missed it by that much. And yeah, so I don't

02:24:48.950 --> 02:24:53.770
know. But same could be said for some of the

02:24:53.770 --> 02:24:55.889
other shows that have already appeared here that

02:24:55.889 --> 02:24:58.959
they should have been. In a slightly different

02:24:58.959 --> 02:25:01.819
order, but because the way that they're, you

02:25:01.819 --> 02:25:05.879
know, voted on, I mean, I didn't personally put

02:25:05.879 --> 02:25:10.180
it above 50, but I also had other shows that

02:25:10.180 --> 02:25:14.180
I wanted, like I enjoyed more and I found other

02:25:14.180 --> 02:25:20.620
relevance with outside of Star Wars. So I do

02:25:20.620 --> 02:25:22.420
think that it's a strong contender and it should

02:25:22.420 --> 02:25:26.000
be here, though, regardless. DJ, give you the

02:25:26.000 --> 02:25:28.680
final thoughts here. So first, do we have it

02:25:28.680 --> 02:25:30.219
in the right place or would you place it different?

02:25:30.299 --> 02:25:33.180
And second, we've had Clone Wars, Rebels, and

02:25:33.180 --> 02:25:35.020
now The Clone Wars. Does that mean we've shut

02:25:35.020 --> 02:25:37.579
the door on the Star Wars franchise here at number

02:25:37.579 --> 02:25:40.219
52 and that's it for the rest of the countdown?

02:25:41.020 --> 02:25:47.940
Yeah, I think if until Season 7 came out, I'd

02:25:47.940 --> 02:25:51.079
have probably said this is the right place for

02:25:51.079 --> 02:25:55.020
it. Then I saw Season 7. And there's a scene

02:25:55.020 --> 02:25:59.620
in, or I guess a climactic fight in the end of

02:25:59.620 --> 02:26:03.659
season seven between, um, spoiler ball in Ahsoka.

02:26:04.040 --> 02:26:06.819
I think it's one of the best star Wars, anything

02:26:06.819 --> 02:26:10.159
that I've seen other than Andor ever, where it's

02:26:10.159 --> 02:26:13.860
like, I'm watching it. I'm like this moment here,

02:26:14.040 --> 02:26:17.600
I would put it up against anything in the sequel

02:26:17.600 --> 02:26:22.170
serology, anything like it, it's Ahsoka. All

02:26:22.170 --> 02:26:24.889
trying to convince Ahsoka for the wrong reasons.

02:26:25.110 --> 02:26:29.649
So Maul is correct and Ahsoka disagreeing with

02:26:29.649 --> 02:26:31.370
Maul for the right reasons, even though she's

02:26:31.370 --> 02:26:33.409
incorrect. I was like, this scene right here

02:26:33.409 --> 02:26:37.350
elevates this entire series where it was. Because

02:26:37.350 --> 02:26:40.090
if you watch the first episode of The Clone Wars

02:26:40.090 --> 02:26:43.030
in this scene, it's going to be like a whiplash

02:26:43.030 --> 02:26:47.010
of how deep and good. And then the fight happens

02:26:47.010 --> 02:26:49.450
and it's like motion capture and it's Ray Park.

02:26:49.959 --> 02:26:52.819
Ray Park doing the motion capture. It's like,

02:26:52.840 --> 02:26:56.440
this is amazing. So I think that season seven

02:26:56.440 --> 02:26:58.459
elevates it. And the problem with the Clone Wars

02:26:58.459 --> 02:27:02.180
is for every like six episodes of really good,

02:27:02.299 --> 02:27:04.719
solid Ahsoka leaving the Academy because the

02:27:04.719 --> 02:27:08.719
Jedi essentially didn't believe her. So she's

02:27:08.719 --> 02:27:10.079
like, okay, we proved your innocence. She's like,

02:27:10.139 --> 02:27:12.780
yeah, I ain't coming back. For every great story

02:27:12.780 --> 02:27:16.079
arc like that with a class of interest, you'd

02:27:16.079 --> 02:27:17.899
have a Jar Jar episode which kind of would bring

02:27:17.899 --> 02:27:20.760
the show down. But I think season seven, the

02:27:20.760 --> 02:27:23.799
stuff that happens in season seven is so good.

02:27:24.399 --> 02:27:28.020
I think this and it kind of hurts me that it's

02:27:28.020 --> 02:27:31.559
as low as it is. So, yeah, if there's any Star

02:27:31.559 --> 02:27:34.239
Wars above this, I would be surprised. I don't

02:27:34.239 --> 02:27:36.979
think it can be. I remember. I hope. Oh, no,

02:27:37.000 --> 02:27:40.360
no, no, no, no. But yeah, anyway, to me, this

02:27:40.360 --> 02:27:44.120
was probably a little bit too low for me. But

02:27:44.120 --> 02:27:47.280
the thing is, the thing is, though. Even the

02:27:47.280 --> 02:27:50.780
Jar Jar episodes in The Clone Wars are better

02:27:50.780 --> 02:27:53.120
than... No, no, no, hold on, hold on, let me

02:27:53.120 --> 02:27:56.299
finish. Even the Jar Jar episodes in The Clone

02:27:56.299 --> 02:27:59.020
Wars are better than anything in the sequel trilogy.

02:27:59.459 --> 02:28:02.920
Oh, well, yeah, yeah. And I would say that the

02:28:02.920 --> 02:28:06.399
only thing that, not saying that it's better

02:28:06.399 --> 02:28:11.360
than, I would say it's close to as good of quality

02:28:11.360 --> 02:28:15.760
as The Clone Wars, maybe The Bad Batch. might

02:28:15.760 --> 02:28:18.200
yeah that's what i'm forgetting yeah but it's

02:28:18.200 --> 02:28:21.040
always good to i mean as a star wars like fanatic

02:28:21.040 --> 02:28:24.059
yeah when i watch or any or in a marvel fanatic

02:28:24.059 --> 02:28:26.700
and a dc fanatic and yeah when i watch somebody

02:28:26.700 --> 02:28:29.860
make a show based on the ip that i love and you

02:28:29.860 --> 02:28:34.440
can just tell from a scene oh they like the thing

02:28:34.440 --> 02:28:37.180
they're working on yeah exactly they know exactly

02:28:37.180 --> 02:28:39.799
what the thing they're working on is about they're

02:28:39.799 --> 02:28:41.680
not just using it to tell their own thing they're

02:28:41.680 --> 02:28:45.389
actually in the lore of the show When you have

02:28:45.389 --> 02:28:47.389
shows like that, it really hits you like, man,

02:28:47.489 --> 02:28:50.370
thank you. I'm going to try and spread the word

02:28:50.370 --> 02:28:53.450
as much as possible about this because you showed

02:28:53.450 --> 02:28:57.069
effort where the sequel trilogy did not. But

02:28:57.069 --> 02:29:01.409
the Clone Wars, I think to me, it started off

02:29:01.409 --> 02:29:03.190
as like, oh, it's a cutesy boots show where George

02:29:03.190 --> 02:29:04.489
Lucas is making. And then it started getting

02:29:04.489 --> 02:29:05.909
like, oh, wait, this is kind of serious. Oh,

02:29:05.909 --> 02:29:08.790
wow. This is scarier. What the, what was, oh

02:29:08.790 --> 02:29:11.569
my God, that guy's dead. So it's like, so it's

02:29:11.569 --> 02:29:13.840
just. It just grew and grew and grew to where

02:29:13.840 --> 02:29:15.959
it's like, oh, this is not a cutesy -bootsy show.

02:29:16.159 --> 02:29:18.899
This is actually hitting lore elements that a

02:29:18.899 --> 02:29:21.760
movie couldn't tell you. So, yeah, I got high

02:29:21.760 --> 02:29:25.079
respect for the Clone Wars. That means there's

02:29:25.079 --> 02:29:27.760
only time for one more on this side of the 50

02:29:27.760 --> 02:29:29.959
mark, and it is going to be another person's

02:29:29.959 --> 02:29:34.840
number one overall. 51. I come from the net,

02:29:34.879 --> 02:29:39.000
through systems, peoples, and cities, to this

02:29:39.000 --> 02:29:44.950
place, Mainframe. My format, Guardian. To mend

02:29:44.950 --> 02:29:49.649
and defend. All right, coming in at 51. Six out

02:29:49.649 --> 02:29:52.149
of our last eight shows today were from the 90s,

02:29:52.149 --> 02:29:54.229
and this is the third show that finds its way

02:29:54.229 --> 02:29:59.709
here from 1994. Originally aired on ABC. Seem

02:29:59.709 --> 02:30:03.790
to see a lot of those recently. And it has fallen

02:30:03.790 --> 02:30:06.770
over the course of 15 years, fallen 16 spots.

02:30:06.870 --> 02:30:09.829
So it was 35 last time around. It is now 51.

02:30:10.870 --> 02:30:14.270
Also our second show from the company Mainframe.

02:30:14.530 --> 02:30:17.690
So the first fully CGI animated TV series making

02:30:17.690 --> 02:30:21.389
it a landmark in animation history evolves into

02:30:21.389 --> 02:30:23.510
more serialized storytelling over time, showing

02:30:23.510 --> 02:30:26.549
ambition beyond its format. Some do say, though,

02:30:26.610 --> 02:30:28.530
that its early visuals and episodes feel dated

02:30:28.530 --> 02:30:31.770
compared to modern standards. We're talking about

02:30:31.770 --> 02:30:37.170
1994's Reboot here at number 51. I know there's

02:30:37.170 --> 02:30:39.309
a lot of love on the panel for this one. I didn't

02:30:39.309 --> 02:30:41.389
quite have room for this one on my top 100, but

02:30:41.389 --> 02:30:43.329
somebody did rank it number one overall. Steve,

02:30:43.430 --> 02:30:44.909
I know you're a big fan, so I'll start with you.

02:30:44.950 --> 02:30:47.030
What do you think about Reboot? I think I know

02:30:47.030 --> 02:30:50.309
who ranked it number one. But anyways. Hi, Tara.

02:30:53.610 --> 02:30:58.930
Sorry, Tara. I ranked it in my top 35. I really

02:30:58.930 --> 02:31:00.770
enjoyed this show. One, it was kind of groundbreaking

02:31:00.770 --> 02:31:04.129
for animated television series. It had a lot

02:31:04.129 --> 02:31:08.590
of interesting. uh plays into the computer world

02:31:08.590 --> 02:31:13.670
it had strong villains but it also was what led

02:31:13.670 --> 02:31:16.809
to like war planets and beast wars and beast

02:31:16.809 --> 02:31:21.389
machines and several other animated series i

02:31:21.389 --> 02:31:27.690
think action man too and uh i i think that while

02:31:27.690 --> 02:31:31.510
some of reboot was kind of hit or miss when they

02:31:31.510 --> 02:31:33.829
started going the more serialized route it did

02:31:33.829 --> 02:31:36.469
kind of pick up and get a little better but i

02:31:36.469 --> 02:31:38.229
i could argue the same thing with some of the

02:31:38.229 --> 02:31:41.989
other uh mainframe television shows too uh although

02:31:41.989 --> 02:31:44.409
i would argue that beast wars is probably their

02:31:44.409 --> 02:31:47.290
strongest show uh reboot did have a lot of good

02:31:47.290 --> 02:31:49.250
voice acting a lot of the same voice actors were

02:31:49.250 --> 02:31:51.950
carried over between them uh and megabyte was

02:31:51.950 --> 02:31:58.010
voiced by tony jay which another villain similar

02:31:58.010 --> 02:32:01.129
sounding to beast wars megatron of where they

02:32:01.129 --> 02:32:06.420
have the deep voice and very commanding and It

02:32:06.420 --> 02:32:09.319
was good enough that Mainframe in their current

02:32:09.319 --> 02:32:15.180
iteration decided to try and do a reboot and

02:32:15.180 --> 02:32:19.540
do their own Power Ranger version of it going

02:32:19.540 --> 02:32:22.180
into it, and they kind of bastardized the original

02:32:22.180 --> 02:32:28.399
reboot with it. But this one, while I argue that

02:32:28.399 --> 02:32:34.680
it's great and it is dated, both... with story

02:32:34.680 --> 02:32:39.780
and visual i i do think that it deserves to be

02:32:39.780 --> 02:32:43.399
on this side of the 50 there we go and uh mike

02:32:43.399 --> 02:32:46.719
for the record it was not tara so um take that

02:32:46.719 --> 02:32:48.780
back she did not rank this number one she did

02:32:48.780 --> 02:32:52.100
have it in her top five though um all right mike

02:32:52.100 --> 02:32:54.079
what do you think of reboot uh does it deserve

02:32:54.079 --> 02:33:00.280
the spot for 51 last time it was 35 yeah it probably

02:33:00.280 --> 02:33:04.620
does deserve the spot at 51 I need to go back

02:33:04.620 --> 02:33:08.040
and rewatch it again. I didn't have time in the

02:33:08.040 --> 02:33:12.120
research to rewatch it. I did see a number of

02:33:12.120 --> 02:33:16.719
the episodes at the time when it came out. Plus,

02:33:16.840 --> 02:33:20.520
when we first started the GCRN, there was supposed

02:33:20.520 --> 02:33:23.100
to be some weird show where we were supposed

02:33:23.100 --> 02:33:26.459
to reboot mainframe at some point. Rebooting

02:33:26.459 --> 02:33:29.479
mainframe. Yes, yes, yes. I know. I forgot the

02:33:29.479 --> 02:33:39.379
ING. Excuse me. But I liked what I saw. I found

02:33:39.379 --> 02:33:42.659
it interesting. And Megabyte was one of the coolest

02:33:42.659 --> 02:33:45.860
villains, especially. I would love to see, and

02:33:45.860 --> 02:33:47.719
I know this is never going to happen, but I would

02:33:47.719 --> 02:33:51.200
love to see a Bat in the Sun superpower beat

02:33:51.200 --> 02:33:54.000
down between Megabyte and Beast Wars Megatron.

02:33:55.760 --> 02:33:57.959
As long as I get to play Megatron, I don't care.

02:33:58.100 --> 02:34:02.959
Well, yeah, that's the point. DJ, what's your

02:34:02.959 --> 02:34:05.399
thoughts on Reboot? Does it deserve 35th like

02:34:05.399 --> 02:34:07.799
last time? Does it deserve 51st like this time?

02:34:07.860 --> 02:34:11.139
Or does it deserve way closer to maybe 100? Or

02:34:11.139 --> 02:34:14.700
does it even deserve to be on the list? I would

02:34:14.700 --> 02:34:19.280
say it's in the realm for me of like almost like

02:34:19.280 --> 02:34:21.979
a Beavis and Butthead where it defined that network

02:34:21.979 --> 02:34:24.760
a lot. Where when I first, when I think of Cartoon

02:34:24.760 --> 02:34:26.000
Network, something like Cartoon Network to me.

02:34:26.590 --> 02:34:28.889
Or at least the beginning of it. Reboot's there

02:34:28.889 --> 02:34:30.629
because I'm like, when I first started watching

02:34:30.629 --> 02:34:32.670
Cartoon Network, it was two shows that I remember

02:34:32.670 --> 02:34:36.770
seeing first. It was Reboot and then it was Dragon

02:34:36.770 --> 02:34:39.549
Ball all the time when I was in college. And

02:34:39.549 --> 02:34:41.670
I was like, oh yeah, Reboot. Okay. And it wasn't

02:34:41.670 --> 02:34:45.889
like a show that I loved, but it's like synonymous

02:34:45.889 --> 02:34:50.430
to me with that network. So a lot of stuff wouldn't

02:34:50.430 --> 02:34:53.889
probably happen. I'm not sure if this is even

02:34:53.889 --> 02:34:56.709
the... first one that was on cartoon i don't

02:34:56.709 --> 02:34:59.129
think so but it just for me that was like the

02:34:59.129 --> 02:35:00.569
first ones i remember watching i was like oh

02:35:00.569 --> 02:35:02.370
yeah this is an actual network we're gonna have

02:35:02.370 --> 02:35:05.510
cartoon this was a a main concept back in the

02:35:05.510 --> 02:35:07.590
day but they had a network where they would only

02:35:07.590 --> 02:35:11.190
play one thing they didn't used to do that back

02:35:11.190 --> 02:35:13.290
when i was younger but when i got to like uh

02:35:13.290 --> 02:35:14.870
you know middle school college and they were

02:35:14.870 --> 02:35:17.649
like oh yeah uh we're gonna make a network it's

02:35:17.649 --> 02:35:20.649
gonna be based on one thing food or travel or

02:35:20.649 --> 02:35:22.469
cartoons i was like cartoons what are you gonna

02:35:22.469 --> 02:35:24.940
do with that then i saw them making their you

02:35:24.940 --> 02:35:27.340
know i wouldn't say it's not original but because

02:35:27.340 --> 02:35:30.979
from a canadian uh channel i believe they brought

02:35:30.979 --> 02:35:33.879
over but when i think of cartoon network it's

02:35:33.879 --> 02:35:38.500
reboot so yeah for its i guess influence to the

02:35:38.500 --> 02:35:41.500
network where that kind of put it on the map

02:35:41.500 --> 02:35:44.500
kind of i would i understand it being here what

02:35:44.500 --> 02:35:48.940
i'm not a huge fan of it the lore is deep so

02:35:48.940 --> 02:35:52.250
i don't uh i can't say i'm you know best lore

02:35:52.250 --> 02:35:56.129
expert on it, but I respect what it is. Alright,

02:35:56.250 --> 02:35:59.030
so that is the 25 shows that we have revealed

02:35:59.030 --> 02:36:02.069
today. A couple things in wrap -up fashion. Did

02:36:02.069 --> 02:36:04.889
ask ChatGPT to take four of them and kick them

02:36:04.889 --> 02:36:07.549
off. The four that should most likely not be

02:36:07.549 --> 02:36:13.149
on this episode, they said Tailspin, they said

02:36:13.149 --> 02:36:16.510
The Smurfs, they said Beast Machines, and they

02:36:16.510 --> 02:36:18.610
said Underdog. They said those are the four.

02:36:19.739 --> 02:36:21.799
They said those are the four that we should kick

02:36:21.799 --> 02:36:25.659
off. This is why I don't trust artificial intelligence.

02:36:25.739 --> 02:36:28.399
I prefer actual intelligence. They said still

02:36:28.399 --> 02:36:33.360
feels like non -essential within its own era.

02:36:33.479 --> 02:36:35.100
So it's saying the other Disney afternoon shows

02:36:35.100 --> 02:36:39.040
are better. And then as far as the internet,

02:36:39.239 --> 02:36:42.020
and then as far as four shows that it says should

02:36:42.020 --> 02:36:44.840
be on the other side of the 50 mark, it gives

02:36:44.840 --> 02:36:49.920
us Popeye, Sailor Moon, The Clone Wars, and Adventure

02:36:49.920 --> 02:36:56.239
Time. Rocks the tailspins amazing. Alright, as

02:36:56.239 --> 02:36:57.959
far as looking at the different categories that

02:36:57.959 --> 02:37:00.440
we've been looking at so far, I don't know if

02:37:00.440 --> 02:37:04.180
any of y 'all noticed this or not. Do you know

02:37:04.180 --> 02:37:07.200
which time period had the biggest presence in

02:37:07.200 --> 02:37:11.840
this section? We had nine shows from the 90s.

02:37:12.079 --> 02:37:15.680
We had six shows from the pre -1980s, five shows

02:37:15.680 --> 02:37:19.270
from the last 15 years. Four shows from the 2000s.

02:37:19.270 --> 02:37:20.750
Does anybody keep track of how many 80s shows

02:37:20.750 --> 02:37:28.170
we had? Two? Three? We had one. Murph's at number

02:37:28.170 --> 02:37:31.510
70 was the only 80s show that we had this time.

02:37:31.590 --> 02:37:33.409
So we went from the highest representation last

02:37:33.409 --> 02:37:37.030
episode to the lowest in this episode. As far

02:37:37.030 --> 02:37:41.889
as some genre things, we went from zero adult

02:37:41.889 --> 02:37:44.750
animation or adult comedy shows to seven this

02:37:44.750 --> 02:37:49.889
time around. And we went from five superhero

02:37:49.889 --> 02:37:57.930
shows to how many this time? Underdogs. I'm not

02:37:57.930 --> 02:37:59.549
counting underdogs since it's a parody. He's

02:37:59.549 --> 02:38:03.209
a superhero. He has a secret identity. We had

02:38:03.209 --> 02:38:05.690
zero this time around, guys. We had nothing from

02:38:05.690 --> 02:38:09.309
DC or Marvel. We had nothing from DC or Marvel

02:38:09.309 --> 02:38:13.100
this time around. So that was interesting. As

02:38:13.100 --> 02:38:15.079
far as some channel representation, we had four

02:38:15.079 --> 02:38:17.940
from ABC, three from NBC, four from Cartoon Network,

02:38:18.139 --> 02:38:21.100
three from Adult Swim, four from Disney. We had

02:38:21.100 --> 02:38:23.540
our first MTV show and our first two Fox shows.

02:38:24.459 --> 02:38:27.700
Nickelodeon completely absent from this entire

02:38:27.700 --> 02:38:30.700
episode. So nothing from Nickelodeon, even though

02:38:30.700 --> 02:38:33.219
we had four Nickelodeon shows last time around.

02:38:33.420 --> 02:38:36.479
And then from a studio standpoint, shows that

02:38:36.479 --> 02:38:38.239
were absent this time around or studios that

02:38:38.239 --> 02:38:40.479
were absent. We had nothing from Marvel. We had

02:38:40.479 --> 02:38:42.649
nothing from Nickelodeon. And we had nothing

02:38:42.649 --> 02:38:46.409
from Warner Brothers. But we did have our first

02:38:46.409 --> 02:38:50.649
emergence of Cartoon Network mainframe, as well

02:38:50.649 --> 02:38:53.010
as two additional Lucasfilm shows, three additional

02:38:53.010 --> 02:38:55.709
Disney shows, and three additional Hanna -Barbera

02:38:55.709 --> 02:38:59.709
shows. So, give you guys each a chance to react

02:38:59.709 --> 02:39:01.870
overall to this segment and the countdown so

02:39:01.870 --> 02:39:03.850
far. So, Steve, what are your thoughts so far?

02:39:03.950 --> 02:39:07.030
Biggest surprises or biggest fears? Or what are

02:39:07.030 --> 02:39:12.850
you thinking now? Well... I'm quite surprised

02:39:12.850 --> 02:39:15.709
in the amount of shows that did show up. Some

02:39:15.709 --> 02:39:19.829
of them above the original top 100 made it into

02:39:19.829 --> 02:39:24.309
the top 100 this time. And then some that are

02:39:24.309 --> 02:39:27.610
flip -flopping locations and then a few new ones.

02:39:27.889 --> 02:39:31.510
I don't know where this is going to go, but I

02:39:31.510 --> 02:39:33.750
think it bodes well that at least some of my

02:39:33.750 --> 02:39:39.190
top 25 to some of my top 50 will probably end

02:39:39.190 --> 02:39:43.440
up in the next. in the top 50 uh where they're

02:39:43.440 --> 02:39:49.420
gonna land i have no clue but i have i have high

02:39:49.420 --> 02:39:54.260
hopes that some of my top 10 will show up in

02:39:54.260 --> 02:39:58.719
the top 10 not all of them but like two or three

02:39:58.719 --> 02:40:02.909
but wait and see we did have One, two, three,

02:40:02.950 --> 02:40:05.430
four, five. We had six shows that climbed enough

02:40:05.430 --> 02:40:08.149
to get into the top 100 that had votes last time.

02:40:08.190 --> 02:40:09.889
So that would be Underdog gained enough to get

02:40:09.889 --> 02:40:11.829
in this time. Robot Chicken, Beast Machines,

02:40:11.889 --> 02:40:14.170
Impossible, The Venture Brothers, and Schoolhouse

02:40:14.170 --> 02:40:16.090
Rock. Those are all the ones that were new top

02:40:16.090 --> 02:40:18.030
100 entries that didn't get enough votes last

02:40:18.030 --> 02:40:21.250
time. We did see climbing in the rankings. Sailor

02:40:21.250 --> 02:40:25.110
Moon, The Critic, Johnny Quest, Huckleberry Hound

02:40:25.110 --> 02:40:27.829
Show, and Space Ghost Coast to Coast. We saw

02:40:27.829 --> 02:40:32.040
Falling reboot. The Clone Wars, Tailspin, Beavis

02:40:32.040 --> 02:40:35.559
and Butthead, Popeye, Pokemon, Smurfs, and The

02:40:35.559 --> 02:40:38.260
Pink Panther Show. DJ, what are your thoughts

02:40:38.260 --> 02:40:42.500
about this set of 25? It's crazy to me because

02:40:42.500 --> 02:40:45.799
it felt like we got a lot of Star Wars, at least

02:40:45.799 --> 02:40:48.520
a lot of sci -fi in which... How many sci -fi

02:40:48.520 --> 02:40:50.739
shows did we get in? Did you keep track? Yeah,

02:40:51.180 --> 02:40:54.940
we had like seven or something last time, I believe,

02:40:55.020 --> 02:40:57.940
and we added... A few, because we had two Star

02:40:57.940 --> 02:41:01.180
Wars entries this time around. But then we had,

02:41:01.219 --> 02:41:02.540
let's see, Pokemon. I don't know if you count

02:41:02.540 --> 02:41:06.180
that or not. We had Johnny Quest. We had Beast

02:41:06.180 --> 02:41:09.659
Machines. Beast Machines. That's about it. It

02:41:09.659 --> 02:41:13.159
was a lot of adult animation. So yeah, you had

02:41:13.159 --> 02:41:16.639
some. Yeah. The emergence of adult animation,

02:41:16.719 --> 02:41:20.319
though. I mean, we had Beavis and Butthead. Depends

02:41:20.319 --> 02:41:22.319
on if you want to call the critic that. The Venture

02:41:22.319 --> 02:41:25.170
Brothers, Bob's Burgers, Rick and Morty. We had

02:41:25.170 --> 02:41:30.850
Space Ghost, Robot Chicken. I'm just talking

02:41:30.850 --> 02:41:32.790
about as far as comedy goes. We had a big presence.

02:41:32.889 --> 02:41:37.690
Right, right, right. Any other thoughts on what

02:41:37.690 --> 02:41:40.129
you saw or what surprised you? I'm surprised

02:41:40.129 --> 02:41:42.590
you guys have not seen two of these shows. I'm

02:41:42.590 --> 02:41:44.530
going to hold your feet to the fire and I need

02:41:44.530 --> 02:41:48.010
you guys to watch them. Dear God, you're missing

02:41:48.010 --> 02:41:51.559
out. I feel like Jules, I feel like, what's his

02:41:51.559 --> 02:41:54.059
name, Vincent Vega in Pulp Fiction. Y 'all, you

02:41:54.059 --> 02:41:56.020
think it the most, baby. Like, you guys would

02:41:56.020 --> 02:42:01.879
love one of these shows. Mike, what do you think

02:42:01.879 --> 02:42:05.920
about this set of 25? I'm sitting here every

02:42:05.920 --> 02:42:08.620
time you said, oh, somebody's number one is coming

02:42:08.620 --> 02:42:11.600
up next. I'm sitting here writing down every

02:42:11.600 --> 02:42:14.379
time. I'm like, it's going to happen. It's going

02:42:14.379 --> 02:42:16.819
to happen. It hasn't happened yet. So either

02:42:16.819 --> 02:42:21.520
it didn't make the list. or it's higher yeah

02:42:21.520 --> 02:42:25.120
it gets to that time right like we talked about

02:42:25.120 --> 02:42:29.540
like the difference between um some of the um

02:42:29.540 --> 02:42:33.899
shows with as far as once you get to the top

02:42:33.899 --> 02:42:36.520
50 right like it becomes a little bit more predictable

02:42:36.520 --> 02:42:39.860
obviously you you get a better feeling like we've

02:42:39.860 --> 02:42:42.059
we said 27 new shows are going to be around this

02:42:42.059 --> 02:42:43.780
time we've talked about all of them except for

02:42:43.780 --> 02:42:46.500
four so 23 of those 27 we've already talked about

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so there's only four new ones to be here otherwise

02:42:49.309 --> 02:42:50.930
everything in our top 50 is something that was

02:42:50.930 --> 02:42:53.569
on our list last time so it will be a little

02:42:53.569 --> 02:42:55.809
bit more predictable and then as we reveal more

02:42:55.809 --> 02:42:58.610
and more like obviously it's not the type of

02:42:58.610 --> 02:43:00.729
list that is going to trick anybody once you

02:43:00.729 --> 02:43:03.069
know once we reveal number two everybody's going

02:43:03.069 --> 02:43:04.989
to know what number one is right like or that

02:43:04.989 --> 02:43:07.969
type of thing so like that's going to happen

02:43:07.969 --> 02:43:10.290
and you know next episode when we do 50 through

02:43:10.290 --> 02:43:12.450
26 we're going to see two more number ones fall

02:43:12.450 --> 02:43:15.590
and then in the final episode when we do 25 through

02:43:15.590 --> 02:43:18.579
one we're going to have uh 13 of those shows

02:43:18.579 --> 02:43:20.840
were ranked at least number one by somebody.

02:43:21.600 --> 02:43:24.940
And it represents a ton. Like we're talking about

02:43:24.940 --> 02:43:29.620
10, 20, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 37, 30, like

02:43:29.620 --> 02:43:33.780
almost 38 of our 44 number ones are in the final

02:43:33.780 --> 02:43:36.260
25 episodes or shows. So it's going to be kind

02:43:36.260 --> 02:43:39.899
of crazy once we get that point. So interested

02:43:39.899 --> 02:43:41.920
to see what people think on the comments and

02:43:41.920 --> 02:43:45.040
everything. So Mike, tell them how can they leave

02:43:45.040 --> 02:43:49.030
comments and do all that type of stuff. all right

02:43:49.030 --> 02:43:52.510
folks well that's gonna do it for us but first

02:43:52.510 --> 02:43:57.149
dj promote yourself where can the people find

02:43:57.149 --> 02:44:00.909
you yeah you oh you're the guest okay i'm sorry

02:44:00.909 --> 02:44:05.370
make it simple make it simplistic man i was born

02:44:05.370 --> 02:44:08.350
a poor black child no uh i'm on the simplicity

02:44:08.350 --> 02:44:12.229
reviews podcast wait a minute here i didn't crack

02:44:12.229 --> 02:44:16.420
a whip and say uh anyway I'm doing the jerk with

02:44:16.420 --> 02:44:20.079
Steve Martin, my friend. Anyway, I'm on the Please

02:44:20.079 --> 02:44:21.899
Reviews podcast with Justin Polizzi and Matthew

02:44:21.899 --> 02:44:24.840
Stewart, where we talk about movies and TV and

02:44:24.840 --> 02:44:27.819
a little bit more, let's just say, adult swim

02:44:27.819 --> 02:44:30.680
fashion. You can check us out on, you can search

02:44:30.680 --> 02:44:35.520
us on anything, YouTube, Spotify, iTunes. Check

02:44:35.520 --> 02:44:38.260
us out. We do some stuff. We talk about some

02:44:38.260 --> 02:44:41.659
things. I love your dead draft, by the way. We've

02:44:41.659 --> 02:44:45.510
gotten Kevin to join us in hell. our death our

02:44:45.510 --> 02:44:48.690
deadpool as we call it the deadpool is awesome

02:44:48.690 --> 02:44:52.389
that pulls pretty good hell draft or head draft

02:44:52.389 --> 02:44:55.530
uh no no we're doing something called i don't

02:44:55.530 --> 02:44:57.610
even know it might not be appropriate to bring

02:44:57.610 --> 02:45:00.250
it up on this show but we're explicit around

02:45:00.250 --> 02:45:02.750
here we've been explicit for 17 years just saying

02:45:02.750 --> 02:45:05.889
man it's not even explicit it's just the nature

02:45:05.889 --> 02:45:07.629
of morality we're doing something called the

02:45:07.629 --> 02:45:10.809
deadpool where we uh pick every year who we think

02:45:10.809 --> 02:45:15.409
might uh um not make it through this mortal coil

02:45:15.409 --> 02:45:18.270
by the end of the year and uh whoever wins uh

02:45:18.270 --> 02:45:21.670
wins the trophy and that's why we have so many

02:45:21.670 --> 02:45:23.649
celebrity deaths when we do the year in review

02:45:23.649 --> 02:45:25.989
steve they're killing people over simplistic

02:45:25.989 --> 02:45:29.329
reviews we're not literally well i don't know

02:45:29.329 --> 02:45:31.770
what jess is doing on a spare time i'm not literally

02:45:31.770 --> 02:45:36.110
coming they're voting on it it's a morbid but

02:45:36.110 --> 02:45:38.709
hilarious concept we're conscientious objectors

02:45:38.709 --> 02:45:39.969
we have nothing to do with their deaths maybe

02:45:39.969 --> 02:45:42.549
uh have nothing to do we just get a trophy if

02:45:42.549 --> 02:45:44.760
we win I just got a trophy and I celebrate if

02:45:44.760 --> 02:45:47.399
I win. I lose four of them. So if you want to

02:45:47.399 --> 02:45:50.700
live, be on my list. You'll live a long life.

02:45:52.479 --> 02:45:59.440
I feel like you're embodying the spirit of Burt

02:45:59.440 --> 02:46:03.020
Aramis over there. I was thinking the Grim Reaper,

02:46:03.139 --> 02:46:05.899
but sure, whatever floats your boat. All right,

02:46:05.899 --> 02:46:08.180
Mr. Ring of the Musketeer. All right, folks,

02:46:08.379 --> 02:46:11.120
we're going to get the heck out of here. Thank

02:46:11.120 --> 02:46:14.620
you, Toonsters. As always, we want to continue

02:46:14.620 --> 02:46:17.239
to welcome you in and joining us here on the

02:46:17.239 --> 02:46:20.260
Geekcast Radio Network's Top 100 Animated Series

02:46:20.260 --> 02:46:26.360
Countdown. This was numbers 75 to 51. You can

02:46:26.360 --> 02:46:28.899
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02:46:29.000 --> 02:46:30.979
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02:46:30.979 --> 02:46:33.420
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02:46:53.909 --> 02:46:59.149
what is your Twitter? At SCP21. Kevin, what's

02:46:59.149 --> 02:47:04.530
yours? At Optimus Solo. DJ? At trying to be DJV.

02:47:05.420 --> 02:47:08.379
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02:47:10.799 --> 02:47:15.260
Radio Network. Next time, we are revealing the

02:47:15.260 --> 02:47:19.159
numbers 50 to 26. We may have a special guest

02:47:19.159 --> 02:47:21.299
on that one. We're not sure if it's going to

02:47:21.299 --> 02:47:23.739
be DJ or someone else. We're going to talk about

02:47:23.739 --> 02:47:27.620
that off -air. But for now, I am TF2 and Mike

02:47:27.620 --> 02:47:32.239
with... Steve Megatron. Dr. Masolo. Watch Adventure

02:47:32.239 --> 02:47:37.360
Brothers. that's your name that's my name that's

02:47:37.360 --> 02:47:42.719
what the v stands were oh enter i'll give you

02:47:42.719 --> 02:47:45.739
venture all right folks thank you for listening

02:47:45.739 --> 02:47:48.879
until next time oh yeah and unleash the tune

02:47:48.879 --> 02:47:49.319
in you