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The Aristocats

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Ha -cha -cha -cha -cha! For the first time on
Special Edition DVD, Walt Disney's jazzy classic,
The Aristocats! Meow! Meet a wealthy duchess
and her three adorable kittens. Why should you
beef her? Cause I'm a lady, that's why. You're
not a lady. You're nothing but a sister! They've
been catnapped. They're gone! By a greedy butler,
out to steal their fortune. What's gonna happen
to us? Now, it's up to O'Malley, the Streetwise
Alley Cat, to save the day. Yeah. As he and his
friends help Duchess and her kittens find their
way home. Charge! Lay some skin on me, scat cat.
This is outrageous and crazy. Fire! With bonus
features including an all -new virtual kitten
game and a newly rediscovered song. Everybody
wants to be a cat. Hello and welcome to the 88th
episode of Tooncast brought to you by the GeekCast
Radio Network. I, Rose, D .O .G. and Mike. And
today I'm joined once again by Kevin Ogimisolo
Thompson. Hello. And making her return is the
rising star, Tara. Hello. Hey. How's it going?
Everything's going good, thanks. How are you?
Pretty good, pretty good. That's not convincing.
Oh, shit. Cheer up, Mike. Shut the hell up. I'm
going to inject you with a five -hour energy
drink. Oh, no. Do they make a five -hour sleep
drink? Because I would take that. Not before
you're done with the podcast. No, I meant after
this hour. No sleeping through the podcast. Oh,
please. I'm sure you've slept through a few episodes.
Only the Star Wars one. That has nothing to do
with Tooncast, but anyway. That's true. Today
we're going to be going back into the Disney
Vault and talking about Aristocats. Yes we are.
The Aristocats. I don't think it really matters
what character Phil Harris ever voices. I see
nothing but Baloo every time I hear his voice.
But we'll get to that. Anything else we need
to bring up? Shut up, Kevin. No, nothing else
we need to bring up except for that Mike hasn't
seen the movie in its entirety. I have too! Shut
the hell up! Skipped multiple - Did not, shut
up. Go in the history lesson already, you asshole.
Alright, for those of you that actually may want
to watch the entire movie, the Aristocats is
an animated feature. Obviously it's produced
by Walt Disney, and it was made in 1970 and it
is number 20 out of the Walt Disney animated
classic series. It is based on a story by Tom
McGowan and Tom Rowe and revolves around a family
of aristocratic cats and how an alley cat acquaintance
helps them after a butler has kidnapped them
to gain his mistress's fortune. and obviously
the title is a pun on the word aristocrat. The
film is noted for being the very last film to
be approved by Walt Disney himself as he died
in late 1966 before the film was actually released
and garnered positive reviews and was a box office
success. It is also the last Disney film to end
with the words a Walt Disney production as it
would be changed to Walt Disney Productions to
appear under the end logo. So there's a little
bit of trivia right off the bat. So, Tara, what
do you remember about Arista Cats? What I remember
about this movie is the humor. Yeah. A lot of
humor and it was cute. I thought the cats were
cute. I thought the storyline was really engaging
and the characters were really memorable. That's
basically what I remember. Yeah, I remember,
you know, I've always been a bigger fan of cats
than dogs because dogs are stupid. But anyway,
that's another story. But no, I actually don't
remember this one a whole lot from my childhood.
I remember liking it when I was a kid. But I
honestly couldn't have told you a lot about the
plot until I rewatched it and then it all came
flooding back. But I definitely remember the
music. I remember some of the main characters.
And it was just, like you said, it was a fun,
cute movie. I just, I don't know, I remember
good things about it from my childhood. So Mike,
oh wait, you've never seen it before. The whole
time I was watching this, I was like, oh, it's
101 Dalmatians with a plot that doesn't involve
puppy fur. I was like, holy crap, the villain
wants the millions. He wants to get rid of the
animals. Yeah, it's 101 Dalmatians for cats.
Lovely. That takes place in France. Oh god. It's
not really a 101 Dalmatian. No, 101 Dalmatians
is ten times better, but anyway. No, it's not.
Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Yes, it is.
But anyway. It's a completely different story,
though. Whatever. You're missing the whole part
about the heuristic. It might be a completely
different story. It might be said in a completely
different place, but it's the same overall premise.
Of course. A person wants employers millions.
gets rid of cats to do so 101 Dalmatian person
wants puppies for fur and she's gonna eventually
kill the puppies. You're killing puppies, you're
killing kittens, it's the same damn thing. In
101 Dalmatians, there's a whole storyline about
the difference between aristocratic society and
alley cat society and the love story and how
you separate that and go home to your owner compared
to living out on the streets. It doesn't even
talk anything about the two different societies
mixing and meshing, so it's not really the same
story. It has parts that are the same, but it's
completely different story yeah the overall premise
is the same let's just agree on one thing both
have cases of animal cruelty yes they both have
similar parts but it's not all the same story
it's basically the same premise in both films
no sorry when it comes to the animals when it
comes to the animals outside of the fact they
don't you know outside of the fact that You know,
what was his name? Edgar doesn't want the cat
fur. I mean, it's the same thing. They're both...
Cruella and Edgar should get fucking married
for Christ's sake. They both want to kill animals.
Yep. Giving them sleeping pills? That's why they
titled it that, because the whole story was supposed
to be more about the aristocratic society mixing
and meshing with street society. I mean, yes,
it has some plot parts that are the same, but
it's not the major premise. Yeah. Sorry, Mike.
Moving right along. Yes. I mean come on the butler
puts like a whole bottle of sleeping pills in
their food. This one is a little more violent
Yeah When I saw that I'm like no, I'm like no
don't do that First for some strange reason when
I saw that whole scene First thing that popped
into my head was um oh What's his name from office
space? Don't watch that show What's his name?
What's his name? Milton, at the very end of the
movie, I'm going to put Strict Night in the guacamole.
I remember that. Yes. That's hilarious. Yes.
What else do we want to say about this movie
before we go on to the characters? We'll get
into stuff as we go. It has some great characters,
though. Oh, yes. Alley Cat. Love him. Yeah, Thomas
O'Malley is just... so cool in this movie. Like,
if you could be Thomas O'Malley, you would. Like,
he is just the essence of cool. And obviously,
like Mike mentioned before, he is played by Phil
Harris, who did Baloo and who did... Little John
in Robin Hood, who's just a great voice actor.
I mean, he uses the same voice in all his roles,
but it's just such a great voice. So he's the
main character. Then you have Duchess, who is,
I don't really like Ava Gabor that much, but
she's a voice of Duchess. And then you have the
three little cats, Toulouse, Marie, and Berlioz,
who their voice actors are not important because
they'd never voice anything again. Then you have
Madame Adelaide Bonfamille, who's played by Hermione
Badly. She was in Mary Poppins and a couple other
things for Disney. Not a whole lot in animation
except for this, but she did a lot of more stuff
in live action. And her butler, Edgar, and her
lawyer, George Huckwort. I don't remember if
that's how you say his last name or not, but
those are the main characters as far as the cats
and then the humans involved with it and then
we obviously have some pretty cool and some pretty
annoying mixture of side characters. Mostly annoying.
Well, I love Roquefort, the mouse. Yeah, I like
his voice. Well, Sterling Holloway is a genius.
He's probably one of the most famous Disney voice
actors of all time, and he's excellent. You have
the horse, who is actually Ruth Buzzy, who does
a lot more animated series, not so much movies
after this. You have a couple geniuses, also
voice actors, Pat Butchram as Napoleon and George
Lindsay as Lafayette. George Lindsay was Trigger
in Robin Hood. And, you know, I love those two
as they play off each other because they have
two phenomenal voices. Then the annoying characters
for me are the three geese, Abigail, Amelia,
and Gabble, and Uncle Waldo. Even though Uncle
Waldo is voiced by Bill Thompson, who's pretty
good, I just, I don't know, I don't care for
the geese at all. I don't care for the part of
the movie that they're in. So I could do without
them and then you have the cat band or the scat
cat and shung on hit cat Peppo and Billy boss
who Wow, throw Ravens craft Lord Tim Hudson Paul
Winchell and scat man crothers. Oh, yeah And
then Peter Rennaday played a few small parts
too, but uh Tara, which characters do you like
the most the characters? I like the most I love
Thomas O'Malley Yeah, I also love one of the
kittens. It's the one with the blue bowtie Yeah,
the funniest part with him is when the sister
is like, I'm a lady, that's why I go first. And
he's like, you're not a lady, you're nothing
but a sister. That was the funniest thing ever.
And yeah, just those are two of my favorite characters.
I don't really care for the sister very much.
I don't know why. I don't know if she's just
a little too, I mean, obviously she's supposed
to be a aristocratic and whatnot, but yeah, I
like Toulouse. I even like Berlioz a little bit
better, but I think both of the male kittens
are pretty funny. Mm -hmm. Yeah, the boys. You
know what I just realized? The two children's
sisters, the one from this and the one from Lady
and the Tramp 2, you don't like. Yeah. I don't
know. It's something about those sisters. Yeah.
But, no, I like Napoleon the Lafayette. I think
they're pretty cool. Like I said, I could do
without the geese. And the cat, the band of cats,
some of them I like and some of them I don't
like. Was there any, or Mike, you didn't say
anything about which character is your favorite
or which ones you liked? Probably has to be Thomas
O'Malley, the alley cat, just because, I mean,
I like the, I like the, his little, I guess,
band of merry cats or whatever. But, scat cats
gang. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. Is that right?
I think that's what they call it. Yeah, that's
true. I didn't catch that until you... I caught
it when I was watching it, but I was like, it
didn't click in my head. And I was like, oh yeah,
that's interesting. Why is jazz in a cat outfit?
Jazz in a cat outfit singing jazz. That's epic.
You know what, Kev? I have to agree with you
about the comment you made about the geese. I
hated them. Yeah, they were just annoying. I
mean, I guess Uncle Waldo was funny for maybe
a second, but I was just like, somebody shoot
those geese. He's drunk. He's the drunk guy.
I like how they don't hide it at all either.
The geese for me are kind of like the fairies,
or not the fairies, the mermaids from Peter Pan.
They're just total ancillary characters that
are so unnecessary. Yeah, no, I yeah, I just
didn't like him at all their whole scene like
that is one scene in the movie that I wouldn't
mind skipping if I watch it again because I'm
just like I Seriously, there's much animal cruelty
as it is in this movie. Why couldn't we have
just shot the geese? It's hunting season Yeah,
put one more scene with Napoleon and Lafayette
the dogs or put one more scene with scat cats
gang and then take the geese out It's duck hunt
Yeah, that's hilarious. I will say at first when
I saw Napoleon and what's the other dog's name?
Lafayette. Napoleon and Lafayette. When I first
saw Napoleon, I thought it was another, not ripoff,
but another port over from trustee's model. But
it's not. At first, when I first saw it, I thought
it was. But I like Napoleon and Lafayette. They're
kind of cool, and it kind of brings in the same
thing that you had in 101 with having animals
that have ranks and stuff. Right. And Napoleon
is the same voice actor that did Chief from Fox
and the Hound. Oh, interesting. So it's kind
of a similar type of role, I guess. But yeah,
I just love those two voice actors. And when
they're together with most of those scenes, I
just thought it worked really well. Yeah. George
Lindsay as Lafayette and as Trigger are both
two great roles for him. Did you hear Thirl Ravenscroft
as the deep sounding cat? Did anybody pick that
out? Yep. I was like, that guy is deep sounding.
That has to be Ravenscroft. Yeah. That's a, I
think, hasn't he passed away since? Yeah. That
would be a soundbite or an interview I would
have loved to have had. Oh yeah. That would have
been so awesome to talk to Thirl Ravenscroft.
Yeah, him and Candy Candido were just so deep
voiced, it was ridiculous. And without even having
the scene, it seemed like it was effortlessly.
The other voice actor I want to bring up, I know
I mentioned him again, but I thought Paul Winchell
was phenomenal as Shungan. He didn't have very
many lines, but he sounded completely like that
character, like you picture that character to
sound. And I'm a big Paul Winchell fan anyway,
so I had to mention him again. You know what?
Most of the voice cast did a really good job.
They fit their characters. Yeah, like I said,
I don't care for Ava Gabor, but it's not because
she did a bad job. It's just because I don't
care for her voice. Yeah. But she still did a
fine job playing that part. Phil Harris did an
awesome job as Thomas. I love Phil Harris. Yeah.
I don't think anyone else can put a resume that
has three major Disney characters as much as
he can. Oh, yeah. Like Little John, Baloo, and
Thomas O'Malley. Not many people can put, you
know, something that can match that up. Nope.
Didn't you put another one, though? Wasn't there...
I seek to remember, he's done a lot of Disney
characters. Yeah, he was, um... Oh, let me think
real quick for a second. He was also, uh... Well,
he was a character in Rock -A -Doodle, but that's
something different. These were his only three
main Disney roles. Yeah. He might have been some,
like... additional voices in something that never
got credited. Yeah. But hey, if those are going
to be the only three Disney roles you get. Oh
yeah. Why not? Exactly. You're immortalized forever.
That's right. Yeah, so I mean, I think we're
all in agreement that Thomas Lomale is probably
the best character and the geese are the worst
characters. Yeah, pretty much, yeah. And the
rest is kind of a mixture of, you know, different
levels. It's like meh. Yeah. That's what I said
in the very beginning, meh. Yeah, but you said
it about the whole movie, jerk. Anyway, yeah.
I would have said if I was on the 101 Dalmatians
record. Whatever. It's not our fault you had
other things to do. Yeah, I know. Show must go
on. Showbiz. Yes. Getting into some behind the
scenes segment here really quick. This film was
the last one to be approved by Walt Disney himself
and the first one produced after his death in
1966. The film took four years to produce and
a budget of four million dollars. Five of Disney's
legendary nine old men worked on it including
the Disney crew that had been working at 25 years
on average. So they had a lot of experience when
they went to this one. Oh yeah. Oh you can tell.
Yeah just a little bit as far as the the animation
and stuff like that since we're in that segment.
I will say that that is one thing that kind of
bugged me a little bit about this movie. I know
it's the same similar animation as is on multiple
other Disney films, but I didn't like the fact
that on this one more than any other ones you
could, for me it was almost distracting being
able to see the amount of, I don't know what
you want to call it, the pencil lines or the
actual drawing marks. And I know you probably
can see those in other Disney movies, but I never
have noticed it as much as I do with Aristocats.
Yeah, I don't know if anyone knows what I'm talking
about, but you can like I yeah, I saw that too
Especially on the humans faces and in their hair
like in the very first scene when it's madam
and I think it's with the lawyer the lawyer yeah
all the the drawing lines everywhere and I don't
know. For some reason, it was distracting for
me on this one. I especially noticed the drawing
lines when two men, Edgar and the lawyer, were
interacting when the lawyer first shows up. Yeah.
I'm sure Superfan Ken can give us some information
as to why that might have been in this one more
than other ones. Maybe they were using a little
different technique. I don't know. You mean Kevin,
not Ken? Yeah. I was confusing our usual... Ustream
fan with our... I mean, Ken might know, because
we are broadcasting this video at Ustream. Ken
Curry might know about the drawing lines, but
the super fan is Kevin Cooper. That's right.
But yeah, that's the only thing I really had
as far as animation -wise. I mean, obviously,
the milestone as far as the last Disney, actual
Walt Disney film, I guess. So that's kind of,
you know, momentous. Why don't you give us the
getting into the actual show? Why don't you give
us the five -minute plot here Kevin and then
Terry can take some of the trivia? Okay, I'll
try to do it in less than five minutes with that
but yeah basically in the beginning of the movie
you have the news of the cats inheriting the
fortune of Madame instead of Edgar that goes
the cats first and then after the cats are gone
then it goes to Edgar so Edgar comes up with
the idea that he is going to poison the cats
basically so he gives them sleeping pills and
takes them on a motorcycle ride to basically
dispose of them and And that's when we're introduced
to Napoleon and Lafayette the dogs, and they
kind of have an interaction with Edgar there,
which, to make a long story short, leaves the
cat stranded outside, where they run into the
character of Thomas O'Malley, the alley cat,
which I'm not going to say his whole name at
this point, but anyway. They run into Thomas
O'Malley and you know, they have the interaction
he and Duchess are falling for each other He's
not basically at the beginning not so keen on
the idea that she has kids and we basically have
a long -running story line here where Eventually,
he wants to be with Duchess etc. But Duchess
says that she can't because she needs to go home
to Madame because you know, she can't leave her
alone because the cats is all she had so Meanwhile,
we meet the geese, we meet some other characters,
etc. And then back at the house, the butler and
Roquefort have a scene together where Roquefort
finds out that the butler is bad and he basically
devotes the rest of his role in the movie to
helping the cats. Then we go back to Thomas O'Malley
and Duchess and the kittens and they meet the
scat cat gang which leads us to another song
and basically another scene where... Thomas O'Malley
is willing to be the cat's father, but Dutchess
refuses him again. And then they return to the
house where Madame lives. And the butler has
one last chance to get rid of him. He puts him
in a package to send to Timbuktu. Along with
Nermal. Along with Nermal. I've never actually
seen this work, but apparently it does in this
movie. And the robofort gets the scat cat gang
to come help out and Basically, the moral of
the story is that the butler gets put in the
package and sent to Timbuktu. So then the cats
move in Madame welcomes Thomas O'Malley into
the family and everybody lives happily ever after
the end The problem I have with this movie lies
within the plot Every time I've seen a VHS cover
or a DVD cover or a poster for this film, it
shows Duchess and Thomas together with the kittens.
So I always thought, and the one cat, the orange
cat, kind of looks like Thomas, so I always,
I, what? Toulouse. Whatever. It's a French name,
I'm not fucking pronouncing it. That's a name,
I was just helping out. Yeah. They look, not
exactly alike, but... To lose looks similar to
Thomas and at first I always thought that he
was the father of the kittens So that's my big
issue with the whole plot is that your issues
that one of the kittens looks like Thomas O'Malley
No, my issue is the fact that It's not really
with the actual plot. It's more with Disney They
market this with having Thomas and Duchess and
the kittens on the cover of everything But yet
we don't meet Thomas until Edgar Throws them
off the bridge like you know the penguins parents
didn't Batman returns I Don't have any problems
with the plot of this one. Yeah, do I I? Just
the only thing I had an issue with was just Edgar
Edgar was a little bit He is one of the I didn't
say this before we were talking about the characters
But he is one of the most like unassuming Disney
villains of all time. Oh, yeah Like you would
not if you just saw a picture of all the characters
and someone said point out the villain I don't
think anyone could. He doesn't look like it.
Yeah, I don't even know who you would pick out
as a villain just based on looks because none
of them look like they're villains. Yeah, exactly.
No one ever suspects the butler, right? Right,
the butler did it, darn it. But yeah, it always
takes me back that he's the bad guy. I'm like,
what? Really? I kind of, I don't know. I kind
of got the impression that he was before... Like
right when he started listening in on the conversation
with the lawyer and and what's her name? Yeah
But I didn't really get it until obviously She
says that the cats come first and then the butler
Obviously you get it from that point on but the
lawyer actually looks more evil than him at times
Not when he starts singing and dancing and stuff,
but like at the first time you see the lawyer
He looks almost more evil. So you think something's
up with the lawyer? Yeah You know, and then he's
like, needing help to get up the stairs, but
then he can dance fine. I don't know, he's a
crazy character, but at first if you had to pick,
I think you would pick the lawyer as the bad
guy. Definitely. But yeah, I don't know, I thought
the plot was pretty good. I mean, I'll give you,
before we get into the trivia, I'll give you
my two favorite scenes. My first favorite scene
is easy because it's when Thomas O'Malley is
first introduced and he has his song. because
that's probably one of my favorite songs in the
film, and I just think it's cool that he's just
kind of strutting his stuff and walking around
and, you know, being Mr. Cool Guy. But I also
love, there's a scene where, um... Roquefort
has just gotten the scat cat gang and he tells
them that the kittens and the cats are in trouble
and the gang starts taking off and then Roquefort
is slower and smaller so he's behind them and
it looks like he's chasing them and they go by
that guy that's sitting out in a little cafe
or whatever and he's drinking and he sees the
mouse chasing the cats and he's like what the
heck and he pours out all his alcohol. That's
hilarious. I love that scene. Those are my favorite
scenes. I don't know if any of you guys have
any favorite scenes or not. I like when the two
brother cats interrupt Marie in the piano lesson
in the beginning when they go off key and all
that with the piano and the paint gets on the
piano and stuff like that. I like that. I also
like the introduction of Thomas O'Malley. Again,
for some strange reason, every time I hear Phil
Harris' voice, more so when he's playing animal
characters. It's kind of hard to imagine Little
John in a Baloo suit. Anybody have a guess what
my least favorite scene is? Yes! Sarah, what
about you? What are some scenes that you like
in this one? I like those. I also goes back to
the piano scene more so with the painting when
one of the brothers is painting and he makes
a drawing of Edgar. Yeah. That was so cute. The
two brothers are just hilarious. I mean... when
she's just trying to do her piano lesson and
they're fooling around. She's all going to be
proper and they're like, screw that. Yeah, we're
not proper. One other thing I didn't necessarily
care for a lot is when Toulouse would try to
hiss. Because I've never seen a cat that spits
when they hiss. And he always like spit, like
there was liquid coming from his mouth. I know.
I'm like, that is nasty. That's nasty. Yeah.
Yeah, that was really funny for me. He would,
you know, he'd try and hiss like, you know, a
wild cat, and I'd be like, what are you trying
to do, buddy? Yeah, I mean, I liked that the
fur was standing on end and that he would, like,
you know, get all, like, his back would arch,
but then I'm like, why is he spitting? Yeah,
I've seen a cat hiss, and when cats hiss, they
don't spit. No, not at all. They show their teeth,
and that's it. Yeah, he would be growling, if
anything. He wouldn't be, uh... We're not growling,
but he'd be like hissing, you know? He'd be like,
ehhhh. They hiss sometimes, so. That's a little
bit of a flaw there. NitroStreak in the chat
says it's a kitten thing because they're not
adults yet, so they don't know how to hiss properly
just yet. Well, that, kind of, but I've had kittens
and I've had kittens that have hissed and they've
never spit, so... Maybe it's just not in every
kitten thing, but I've had multiple multiple
kittens because I'm a cat person and I've never
seen them spit when they hiss. They don't make
as much noise as the adult ones and they don't
have the growling effect and they don't do it
quite right, but I've never seen one spit. He's
trying to be an adult. Can't blame it. That's
my one problem, I guess, with the movie. Getting
into some trivia, Tara, why don't you take some
of the trivia points here? Sure thing. So first
up, we got the character of Scat Cat was designed
to be voiced by Louis Armstrong. The character's
look was modeled after Armstrong, the way he
played his trumpet, his roly -poly physique,
right down to the prominent gap between his teeth.
However, at the last moment, for unknown reasons,
Armstrong quit the film without recording a single
line. His replacement, Scatman Crothers, was
directed to pretend you're a... Satchmo. Satchmo.
Satchmo Louis Armstrong. Satchmo. Louis Armstrong
would have been great, but I love Scanlan Carther's
too, so it's not like it's a bad replacement.
But Louis Armstrong was the man. So that would
have been cool if he would have done some lines
in this one. That would have been awesome. And
then next, we got the Sherman Brothers, Richard
M. Sherman and Robert B. Sherman, whose father
wrote the big Chevalier hit, Living in the Sunlight,
Loving in the Moonlight. Talk Maurice Chevalier
out of retirement to sing the title song. Yeah,
and Maurice Chevalier is like one of the most
famous French actors from back in like the 30s
and whatnot. He was in the movie Can Can and
Gigi and a bunch of stuff. So yeah, they talked
him out of retirement and they actually talk
about that on one of the special features on
the DVD. He has a pretty cool voice at the beginning
of the film. Yeah, it's a very, very good voice.
And then also Eva Gabor and Pat... We're both
starring together in the TV series Green Acres
while recording voices for this animated film.
So they must have known each other pretty well
then. And this was originally intended as a two
-part live -action installment of the TV series
Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color in 1954.
That would have been very strange. I'm actually
glad that didn't happen. Yeah, me too. I'm gonna
put it together as a movie. Otherwise, it would
have been like, uh, Cinderella 3. Yeah. Hey!
Let's not go there. Cinderella 3 was good. It's
Cinderella 2 that's bad. Get it right, dumbass.
Yeah, Cinderella 2, man. It's not dumb. It's
smart. Dumbass. Not a dumbass. Dumbass. Oh, we
got Thomas O'Malley's full name. Give it to us.
Oh, yeah. I got a mouthful here. Thomas O'Malley's
full name is Abraham de Lacey. Goose up. Casey
Thomas O'Malley. He says it in the song and the
kids actually call him it a couple times. It's
kind of funny. I can't pronounce that. And the
character of Uncle Waldo the English Goose was
the last role of voice actor Bill Thompson who
died from a heart attack at age 58 shortly after
the film was released. And this was Ruth Buzzi's
first feature film. And the Goose sisters, Abigail
and Amelia, are voiced by Carol Shelley and Monica
Evans, who played the equally chatty Pigeon Sisters,
Cecilia and Gwendolyn in the movie TV series
and original Broadway production of Neil Simon's
The Odd Couple in 1968. They also provide the
voice of Maid Marian and Lady Cluck in Disney's
Robin Hood from 1973. Yes. So this is like the
changing of an era. We have Walt Disney being
done, Bill Thompson who's probably like the second
most prolific Disney male voice actor being done.
Then we have Ruth Buzzy starting and it's almost
like a shifting of the guards here. Very interesting
little trivia. Yeah, but no Mickey Mouse's and
no Castle Thunder. No hidden Mickeys. There's
nowhere really in the film to put a hidden Mickey.
Oh sure, they could have somehow. I'm sure they
could have come up with something. I don't outright
hate the film, but it's not one of my Disney
favorites at all. This is not a movie that I
can put in for enjoyment whatsoever, but at the
same time I don't outright hate it. Tell me you
hated it before you'd ever seen it. No, I didn't.
That's not what I said. Okay, you said you weren't
going to like it. You know what? This film wasn't
that bad. Like it wasn't. I sat through it and
I enjoyed it and I had a few laughs. I'm not
saying I'm going to put it in like my top five
Disney movies of all time or anything, but it's
better than some of the crap. Oh, definitely.
Definitely. It's a lot better than some of the
other stuff that we've seen Disney throw out
there. I don't know, 101 and Robin Hood give
it a run for its money. Robin Hood's definitely...
Robin Hood's way better than this. 101 is on
the same level. No, no it's not. 101 is way better
than this. Anyways, so yeah, moving on to the
music segment. There is a soundtrack for this,
surprisingly. Six songs are on the soundtrack.
Only Thomas O'Malley, Cat... O'Malley the Alley
Cat is on the purple disc and Everybody Wants
to Be a Cat on the orange disc for Disney. Classic
Disney, 60 years of musical magic. And on Disney
Greatest Hits, this includes Everybody Wants
to Be a Cat on the red disc. Yeah, but there's
some great songs in this one. I love everybody.
Everybody wants to be a cat. And then the Thomas
O'Malley Cat. You know, I don't necessarily love
the Scales and Arpeggios song, but it's a good,
cute song for the little kittens. And I like
the Aristocats opening theme. It's not like one
of my favorite songs, but I just like hearing
Marie Chevalier saying that in his French accent
and whatnot. So, you know, I don't necessarily,
she never felt alone. I don't necessarily care
for that much, but the rest of them, you know,
they're not like Aladdin songs or, you know,
Lion King songs or stuff like that, but they're
pretty darn good. I just felt, and Kevin and
I talked about this in episode 86, The songs
for Robin Hood fit the movie. The songs for 101
Dalmatians fit that movie. I just felt when I
watched this, it's like, oh, hey, we're going
to break into song now. Yay. Well, but it is
written into the plot because, number one, when
the kittens are singing, it's supposed to show
that they're aristocratic and that the one's
doing art and they're training in music and stuff
like that. So that one is kind of necessary.
Yeah. And you have a group of people called the
Scat Band, so they're allowed to bust into song
whenever they want to. I mean, I can see how
it seems like it's kind of like bust, you know,
just all of a sudden having a musical number
a little bit more than in Robin Hood, but it
still kind of fits the plot. But Thomas O'Malley
Cat is a pretty smooth transition and everybody
wants to be a cat, I think. I don't know. I just
like that song a lot, I guess. That's my favorite
song in the whole movie. Yeah. And there was
another song that was supposed to be on the,
well not necessarily supposed to be on the movie,
but that was written for the movie. It's also,
this is probably the best part of the DVD is
the special feature that it kind of talks about
it. And it's actually the writer of the song.
He goes into what was the purpose of the song
and how it was going to fit in and it was supposed
to be split into two different parts and they
actually show which parts and they actually have
a recording of the voice of Madame Hermione Badly.
They have a recording of her so they actually
show or play that while they show the storyboards
of what was supposed to happen. So it's kind
of a neat little feature on the DVD that you
can look for. Not a great song but it's just
kind of interesting. It's very interesting. If
you're a huge fan of the film, why not? Go check
it out. Too many songs can ruin a movie. This
one was right on that borderline for me. Yeah,
it had a little too much. It was boring. Compared
to Robin Hood, which was absolutely perfect.
Yeah, Robin Hood was immaculate. This was just
meh. And for those of you that are obviously
not with us live on Ustream, just for your information,
Mike is greatly outnumbered in the Aristocats.
I don't care. I don't care, damn it. Everybody
agrees with me, just for the record. I don't
give a shit. That's what I gotta say to you,
ass -hats right there, ass -hats. He's calling
all the people on YouTube ass -hats. No, specifically
you, Kevin. Oh good, I thought you were calling
me an ass -hat. No, no, no, just Kevin. I'm fine
with that. So, getting into the legacy segment
for the release, The Aristocats was re -released
to theaters on December 19th, 1980 and April
10th, 1987. It was released on VHS in Europe
on January 1st, 1990. It was first released on
VHS in North America in the Masterpiece Collection
Series on April 24th, 1996. Wow, it took them
that long to put it on VHS in the new year. Oh,
wow. Wow. and DVD on April 4th, 2000 in the gold
classic collection line. The Aristocats had its
gold collection disc quietly discontinued in
2006. A new single disc special edition DVD previously
announced as a two disc set was released on February
5th, 2008. You know, based on the reviews we've
been giving the Rotten Tomatoes lately, the Rotten
Tomatoes got a 67%, which is actually higher
than Robin Hood got. Fuck you, Rotten Tomatoes!
It just proves it's better than the 101. Anyway,
while this is rather low for Disney... This has
nothing to do with the 101. It still classifies
it as fresh. Of the reviews, 12 gave it fresh
and only 6 gave it rotten. This is based on,
and then they had 497 as far as like the user
reviews, it gets 81%. And Snoop Dogg gave it
a positive review as well. I'm not sure why that's
relevant. I don't know either. But we're giving
you that information. Snoop Dogg likes Aristocats
and his name is Snoop Dogg, so that just proves
it's not a dog -cat thing. Anyways, there was
supposed to be a direct -to -video sequel. The
Aristocats 2 was supposed to be a direct -to
-video sequel to this film. It was scheduled
to be released in 2007, but the production was
cancelled in early 2006 after Disney acquired
Pixar and cancelled all projects not related
to consumer product lines. But apparently Mike
has fallen off the face of the earth. No, I haven't
Flipping the you stream people off because they
want to send me fucking snow I don't think so
because you flip them off and they were mad because
they're your audience. Oh, we have tons of snow
here in Toronto right now You can keep it. Yeah,
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I'm going first dammit final thoughts on aristocats.
It's okay It's it's a nice little film. It's
not my cup of tea though at all 101 Dalmatians
is easily better than this. Robin Hood is most
definitely better than this. Hell, Lady and the
Tramp is most definitely better than this. Obviously,
Mike's opinions are not all of our opinions.
That's for sure. Not even close. So my final
thoughts. Like I said, I don't know. This is
just a fun movie It's not something that I would
watch over and over again, but it's something
I enjoy watching every so often I love a couple
of the songs. I love Thomas O'Malley as a character
It's just a fun fun movie for me I you know I'm
not gonna put it in my top five or top ten list
or whatever of all -time Disney movies But I
definitely am gonna put it ahead of 101 Dalmatians
You have to agree with you guys 100 % agree.
It's not a bad film and it's enjoyable for the
most part. You won't stab your eyes out when
you watch this film. That's reserved for Snow
White and the Seven Midgets. I didn't have too
many issues with the film. If you're interested,
go watch it. If not, you're not missing anything.
You know what, the people that listen to this
through iTunes and through whatever podcasting
client, they're going to be so lost with half
of the stuff that we've talked about. That's
right. It's nothing to do with the movie. Just
know that they're all agreeing with me. Yeah,
it doesn't matter. This has probably been the
best Ustream audience I've had ever. They want
us to put a disclaimer on all future episodes
that your opinion is not the official opinion
of the rest of us. Fuck that. I'm second in command
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to Steve's Megadron. That's right, I'm Unicron,
so bitches. No, I'm just kidding. I'm like, play
nicely, children. Alright, so Kevin, did you
give your final thoughts? Yep, we both did. Okay,
I wasn't sure. We've gotten so far off topic.
I didn't want to forget anybody. Yeah. That'd
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star. Until next time. God, that was such a train
wreck. But at least they all know that Aristocats
is better than 101 Dalmatians now. Old Mallie
the Alley Cat, I've got that wonderlust. Gotta
walk the scene. Gotta kick up highway dust. Feel
the grass that's green. Gotta strut them city
streets, showing off my E -clat. Yeah! Tell them
my friends of the social elite. Or some cute
cat I happen to meet Dad I'm... Abraham de Lacey,
Giuseppe Casey, Thomas O'Malley O'Malley the
Alley Cat Everybody wants to be a cat Because
a cat's the only cat Who knows where it's at
Tell me everybody's picking up on that feline
beat Cause everything else is obsolete. Strictly
high button shoes. A square with a horn makes
you wish you weren't born. Every time he plays.
But with a square in the act, you can set music
back. Through the game and days of jub jub jub
jub boozin'. I've heard some corny birds who
tried to sing. Still the cat's the only cat.
Who knows how to swing? Who wants to take a long
head cake and stuff like that? When everybody
wants to be a cat.
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