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Danger Mouse

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I'm fantastic. Sorry. Yes, and for those of you
who didn't catch that reference... Today we are
going to be talking about the better of the mice
in the last two weeks. Danger mouse. I think
I'm going to shoot myself because we've agreed
with each other two weeks in a row. I'm still
fantastic and I'm still the greatest and wherever
there's danger I will be there. Yes, so getting
right into the history lesson sir. Danger Mouse
is a British animated television series, which
was produced by Cosgrove Hall Films for Thames
Television. It features the eponymous Danger
Mouse, a English, not British mouse, who works
as a superhero slash secret agent. The show is
a loose parody of British spy fiction, particularly
James Bond, the Danger Man series, with some
influences coming from Sherlock Holmes, and there's
lots of other nods to British stuff which we'll...
probably get into as we go through here. With
the Watson -like assistant Penfold, the show
originally ran in the United Kingdom from 1981
to 1992. Danger Mouse was the first British cartoon
to break into the American TV market. since the
animated shorts Simon in the Land of Chalk Drawings,
Ludwig and Paddington Bear, which were all shown
in the 70s. In the United States it was broadcast
on Nickelodeon in the 1980s in the late afternoons
and in the early evenings as they segue into
prime time hours as the A &E Network and later
Nick at Night as the series appealed to both
pre -teens and adults with its quick witted English
humor. Danger Mouse aired for a whopping 10 seasons
consisting of 89 episodes which were broadcast
in the UK or in the US basically from 1981 to
1992 What do you remember about good old Danger
Mouse? It's James Bond as a mouse Basically,
I actually do remember watching it in prime time
though. I do too I remember watching it on Nickelodeon
at prime time and it was like Right in that segment,
right before Nick and Night, I remember that
clear as day. I don't necessarily remember if
I watched it in the afternoons when it was on,
but I do remember watching it in prime time for
sure. Oh yeah, I do too. It was awesome. Yeah,
and this is something that we'll get into, but
basically, Danger Mouse, to me, maybe more than
most cartoons, stands the test of time because
it is aimed... It was supposed to be a kids cartoon,
but they did everything in their power to aim
it almost totally at adults. Oh, yeah. And especially,
I mean, I can imagine that if you were someone
who grew up with British television series exposure
or British lit background that you would like
that your appreciation for the show is even more
than mine is because besides James Bond and Sherlock
Holmes, you know, there's some. Some references
like some of the Monty Python references I might
not get Some of the Doctor Who references I might
not get but someone who is big on all the British
TV stuff Has to really appreciate this show.
I have never gotten Into Doctor Who I know nothing
about the show. I It's not that I don't care
for it. It's not that I dislike it. I just don't
There's It's one of those shows that unless you're
going to try attempt to get into it from the
beginning You're hopelessly lost. I think yeah
It's it's one of those shows that you're either
gonna be way into or you better just stay away
from yeah the only at this time in the 80s the
only British TV or the only British comedy show
that I ever watched two of them actually was
faulty towers with John Cleese and rising damp
I don't remember either of those. Faulty Towers
is just comedy gold. Basically, take John Cleese
out of the queue or our role and put him in a
hotel. It was called Faulty Towers. It's just
awesome. I think I think this may be I mean I'd
have to do a search or Do some research on all
the British cartoons that have ever come out,
but this may be the best British cartoon. I've
ever seen Yeah, oh, yeah, I'd have to agree I
mean this is just and I you know I remember watching
that as a kid like I said primetime right before
Nick at night And I watched quite a few segments
here and there recently and it's still just as
good Yeah, I mean I can't get over it. I love
everything about this show almost. I love the
theme song. It's one of the best theme songs
of the 80s. At least top 30, 40 in there somewhere.
I love the voice acting in this show. I love
the characters. I love just about everything
about this show. I didn't realize how much I
liked it until I started re -watching it actually.
knew I liked the characters because I could remember
you know you that a character or a show stuck
with you as a child if you can remember more
than the main character and I remembered like
five or six characters from this before I even
started rewatching it like I could have told
you the bad guy was I could have told you who
danger Mouse was who his sidekick was I could
have told you about the little white pet thing
with you know that the the evil guy has i could
have i could have told you about you know the
the colonel k i remembered all that without ever
watching a minute just from my childhood yeah
and that's when you know a show was good back
then oh yeah compared to last week's show you
couldn't None of us could remember anything besides
Mighty Mouse until we started rewatching them.
Now, it's different. If you start rewatching
them, obviously that doesn't count because you've
had your memory jogged then. But to remember
the characters before you start rewatching it
means it was a good show. Oh, yeah. And, you
know, shows like this, like, you know, and I
don't really want to equate it to other shows,
but I mean shows that we grew up with, like Transformers
and G .I. Joe and... Thundercats and Voltron
and Mask and He -Man and She -Ra and Tiny Toons
and all that other good stuff. Keyword there
is good stuff. Those damn metal things don't
count. Solarhawks are awesome. Shut up. You know,
they all have characters that we remember that
we grew up with. I mean, I don't think anyone,
unless you go through a memory eraser... only
anyone is going to be able to forget optimist
prime or he man or you know why no uh... with
the buddha but i think what i'm saying uh...
you know i think you kind of the same point is
up if it is a great show every day impact on
you as a child you remember more than just those
characters oh yeah i think you're gonna remember
the sidekicks you're gonna remember that all
yes but yeah yeah i i i totally agree And this
show to me this show is kind of like I I mean
obviously we can't compare them to all the action
the action boys shows or the action shows of
the 80s but to me this one you could put this
one kind of with um I'd say like Garfield um
that type of show um you could put it with I'm
trying to think of some other ones that were
kind of like that where it's just kind of comedy
for both kids and adults just kind of General
themes almost like inspector gadget. You could
kind of put it with that Yeah, you know, it's
just a good all -around show and You know, obviously
inspector gadget Garfield are more known But
I think danger mouse could hold its own against
some of those shows. Oh, yeah, I agree So any
other memories before we actually talk about
some of these characters that were remembering
so finally, nope Alright, starting off obviously
with Danger Mouse. He's the greatest secret agent
in the world. He's fantastic. He's the greatest
wherever there's trouble he's there. So secret
in fact that his code name has a code name. He
speaks 34 languages fluently including some extra
terrestrial ones. He regularly bounces himself
on his index finger and bounces up and down on
it. He refers to this as going into a seventh
level yoga hopping trance. His eye patch is not
actually needed and as he points out is worn
because it's part of the suit. His biggest catchphrases
are Good Grief and Penfold Shush and Blast. He's
also a practitioner of the ancient martial art
of Kung Maggi. Sounds like something Hong Kong
Flu would come up with. Yeah, I don't remember
the martial arts part or that it was called that,
but I remember him just being kind of this over
the top like, greatest secret agent in the world.
He can do all this crap that you're like, what?
But I think the thing about Danger Mouth that
I like... is he has a unique look for a cartoon
mouse. Oh yeah. This isn't Mighty Mouse slash
Mickey Mouse slash Superman whatever this isn't
and even other mouses that we've seen over the
years and cartoons all seem to have like a similar
look but Danger Mouse found a new look a unique
look and a good look and I like that about him.
Yeah I agree. the uh... for a second there when
you're reading his old bio he said good grief
i'm thinking wait since when did charlie brown
get mutated i couldn't help it because that's
what charlie brown always says is good grief
good observation of course danger mouses sidekick
is a guy named ernest penfold hopefully you remember
what he looks like uh... Yeah, there's a picture
right there. Well, I mean the viewers Kind of
like a little you know, I glass wearing hamster.
Yeah Um stands just over the height of danger
mouse and always wears thicker on glasses and
a crumpled blue suit with a white shirt and yellow
and black striped tie He's danger mouse sidekick.
He calls danger mouse chief and basically he's
a coward I don't think we need to get too much
into anything else about him. But you know, but
he you know, he's funny. He's a He's a good little
sidekick not as annoying as some sidekicks in
the 80s, but Still your timid scaredy -cat sidekick.
I can watch this guy over that other Crazy learning
sidekick of the metal variety stupid copper kid.
I think I like copper kid better No, but uh,
what's turning? Why are you hating on silverhawks?
It's been like 20 70 episodes since that show
I think you want to take some of the other characters.
You got Colonel K, who is basically Danger Mouse's
boss. He's often mistaken for a walrus. It was
revealed in issue of Look -In magazine that he
is in fact a chinchilla. He previously worked
for Special Branch, where he was known as Special...
Oh, God, no. Special K. Oh, no, no, no, no. Gotta
you gotta you gotta tell the viewers the next
part though about the Colonel K. Oh god. He is
a champion Oh, oh boy. I don't know if I can
finish this. Yeah, this is great stuff He is
a champion penis thrower Judo expert the first
to climb Mount Everest on a on a pogo. What the
hell? There's no way in friggin you know you
can go make this show awesome come on everest
on a fucking although stick you got danger mouse
balancing and jumping on his fingers you got
colonel k climbing on everest on a polo stick
and he was once an eskimo and he took up tap
dancing and was a former kleptomaniac and cheats
at croquet this guy's who else would you want
to have your boss as the greatest boss ever i
want a boss that can do all of those things Except
for maybe being a former kleptomaniac Then you
had professor that professor professor Heinrich
von squawk and cluck oh Boy, it was an inventor
mad scientist guy inventor of mark 3 danger mouses
flying car and the space hopper His personal
spacecraft. He's a mole Despite his avian name
squawk and cluck. Um, then you got agent 57 is
awesome He's an initial initially a master disguise
agent 57 later gained the ability to alter his
own molecular structure to transform into any
appearance he wished and I can remember an episode
where Basically every time he's I don't know
if this was throughout the whole series or if
this is just in this episode because I can't
remember each specific episode that well But
agent 57 was in this episode where every time
he sneezed he turned into something else Yeah,
and he couldn't really control it. So he'd sneeze
and turn into like Baron von Silas read sneeze
and turn in danger mouse or it sneeze and turn
into a penfold or it sneeze and turn into some
weird creature Yeah, I just love agent 57 Remember
that it's funny for some strange reason as we're
going through this I'm drawing so many conclusions
between this and get smart. Oh, yeah, it has
a lot of get smart stuff, too Yeah, but those
are the main good guys I think those are the
ones that are worth talking about and I think
you know you should remember if you don't everybody
should remember danger mouse and You should remember
either Penfold or Colonel K or Agent 57, one
of those guys you should remember. If not, you
need to get the show on DVD and watch it. And
yes, I said DVD, not YouTube. This is worth some
money. Yes, unlike last week's show. Right. Some
of the villains we have Baron Silas Greenback,
the recurring villain in Danger Mouse's Arch
Enemy, and a toad with a wheezy voice, although
sometimes he was referred to as a frog. known
as Baron Green Teeth in the un -broadcast pilot
episode. Commonly known as the terrible toad
in America, Greenback is slang for dollar bill
in many regions. Adding to the sense of his commercial
greed, allegedly he turned to a life of crime
as a schoolboy when other children stole his
bicycle. I love this guy. I love his wheezy voice.
That was so unique for the time as far as an
80s villain and He's a freaking green toad He's
a green toad with a wheezy voice. That's like
a mob hitman guy not hitman, but like a mob like
Godfather he is awesome He's one of my favorite
favorite villains of the 80s. He's probably in
my top 10 favorite villains And that's saying
a lot because there were some damn good villains
in the 80s You know what happens to his toad
when it's struck by lightning the same thing
that happens to everybody else The only other
main bad guy that you see a lot is a stiletto
full name stiletto mafiosa He's a greenbacks
henchman, which is He's a crow. He always calls
Greenback Barone, Italian for Baron. In the original
English version, he spoke with an Italian accent
to avoid offending Italian Americans. That was
changed to a Cockney accent when it was aired
in the U .S. But he's a pretty cool little sidekick,
too. You got a green, huge frog and then this
little black crow. And they just they just made
a good a good pairing. um you should recognize
one other villain on the list though um let's
see oh count duckula yes count duckula was a
showbiz obsessed vampire duck who wanted to get
his own show his ongoing gag of him craving his
own show and show business inspired a later spin
-off series titled count duckula starring the
count himself so this is where count duckula
basically got his start um get this though God,
we're good at scheduling. He is loosely based
on Count Quackula, a filmation animated character
from the 1979 The New Adventures of Mighty Mouse
and Heckel and Jekyll. Which was last week's
episode. We're good here, folks. So let's see
here, folks. We've got episode two was Animaniacs,
and episode three was Tiny Toon Adventures. Now
we have episode 71 being Mighty Mouse and episode
72 being Danger Mouse. The only way that that
would have been better is if we had done Count
Duckula before Mighty Mouse. But those are the
main bad guys. There's other bad guys that make
good one -shot appearances and stuff like that.
But if you're interested in those guys, you need
to watch the actual show. The only thing I don't
recognize about this series is the voice cast.
I do recognize the main guy only because he does
the voice of both Danger Mouse and Count Duckula.
So David Jason does Danger Mouse and Count Duckie.
He's done other stuff, but not really too much
as far as like American voiceover. I mean, obviously
most of these guys are British. I'm assuming
they're mostly British voice actors. Yeah. So
we don't see him a lot in our cartoons or whatnot,
but he's done other stuff. I think he's actually
been on Doctor Who. I don't remember any of the
other, I don't recognize any of the other voice
actors, but I'll name them. Terry Scott, Edward
Kelsey, Brian Truman and Jimmy Hibbert. Kevin's
gonna kill me for that this next reference ladies
and gentlemen If you take David Jason's name
put the Jason before the David and then add a
Frank you have the voice You have the actor that
played Tommy and Power Rangers Jason David Frank
That's gay Oh, I forgot I almost forgot to mention
though greenbacks pet Nero the little white I
Don't know what you actually call him He was
a fluffy white caterpillar and he didn't speak
but His sounds were made by recording David Jason
laughing and talking gibberish and then speeding
up the soundtrack like they do with the chipmunks
or whatever Oh cool. So David Jason's just all
over the show. Yeah, very cool. Very cool Getting
into the behind -the -scenes segment here. I
Don't recognize any of the producers Brian Cosgrove
Mark Holland John Hambly. I don't recognize any
of them either As a cost -cutting measure, the
cartoons made frequent use of repeated footage,
and in the dark sequences, black with eyeballs
visible only, or in Danger Mouse's case, simply
one eyeball. A recurring setting for the episodes
was the North Pole, so chosen because the white
snow -covered backgrounds would require minimal
painting and coloring. Hey, if you gotta be cost
-cutters, do it the right way. Yep, as far as
the directors and the writers don't recognize
any of them. Yeah, apparently Brian Cosgrove
is all over this production. Brian Truman's name
has come up again, Jimmy Hibbert, but I don't
recognize him mostly because we're not going
to recognize a lot of the names behind this.
Because it's a British show. But they did a good
job. I will say that much. Oh, I can't wait till
we get to reception. Oh boy. Although, getting
into the actual show here, although the characters
in the series are animals, the adventures of
Danger Mouse appear to be taking place alongside
the human world. There are various examples of
a mouse -sized Danger Mouse walking through human
scale sets, standing on table. football tables
and not least living inside a normal -sized pillar
box. This becomes less consistent as the series
goes on as many later episodes show the characters
being human -sized. There are also times where
the cast attempts to deliberately interact with
humans such as ducal and mind -controlling human
members of Parliament to be showbiz mad as he
is as well as the episode trip to America where
the danger mouse and Penfold are seen to interact
with a Texan so I I think the thing about the
actual show that I want to bring up that I like
the most is is the The nods to the adults that
they put in there I was rewatching some of the
shows recently and one of them danger mouse is
in his car or whatever and He's with agent 57
And Agent 57 keeps changing to different things.
This is the same episode when he was sneezing,
actually. And at one point, Danger Mouse asked
him what Agent 57 really looks like. And so he
changes into something. But it's so small that
you can't see him because we're looking from
the front view of the car. So we can see the
windshield. And he goes basically below that.
And Danger Mouse gets all disgusted. And he's
like, oh, god. please can you change something
into something else and he changes into like
a I can't remember like a hippo or like a some
huge animal which sends the car crashing to the
ground because it's flying through the air and
it sends the car to the ground and as he crashes
then when danger mouse gets out he's not even
worried about anything else his line and only
adults obviously would get this he's like if
you would have done that three minutes or if
you would have changed because he rechanged into
something else, which wasn't as heavy. And he's
like, if you would have changed into that person
three minutes earlier, I wouldn't have had to
worry about my no claims bonus going out the
window. And it's just stuff like that that's
thrown in all over the show that kids probably
wouldn't get. They would have thought it was
funny because we just had this hippopotamus or
whatever make the car crash to the ground. But
as we're enjoying the kids with some just overtly
physical humor, they throw in lines that the
adults would laugh at. And I love that about
the show. Yeah, I mean besides all the nods to
all the other pop culture stuff like Bond like
Doctor Who like Get Smart and all that stuff
Sherlock Holmes you have just these regular just
good One -liners and stuff like that that adults
would appreciate Yep So that's my favorite part
about the show. Yes and getting into the music
segment here This theme song rocks It does rock
Because every time I listen to it, I'm reminded
of the fact that I am the greatest and I'm fantastic
No, I disagree but Whatever blows your ego up
exactly. No, it's a great theme song It's I wouldn't
say it's like the best theme song of the 80s,
but it is way better than most of the theme songs.
Yeah, no, I don't know I'm not I don't even think
there is one best ever theme song in the 80s.
Gummy Bears might be. What? Gummy Bears and Mascar.
And Mysterious Cities of Gold. Those three are,
without a doubt. Okay then. Alright. There's
no arguing this with me. Getting into the legacy
segment here. Actually it's very funny. In Britain's
Channel 4's 100 Greatest Kids TV shows, Danger
Mouse came third, beaten only by The Muppet Show
and The Simpsons. Why does Britain like The Simpsons?
I don't know. I can understand The Muppet Show
and Danger Mouse. Damn Simpsons. It's still good.
I want to see what their list is because it's
probably better than IGN's list. Yeah, I don't
know so if anyone wants to give it point that
out to Kevin send us Oh, but that just gets to
the point where I saying that people that were
are from Britain or people that have a background
of Britain Pop culture history or entertainment
history TV shows literature or whatever do appreciate
it obviously that shows and it being ranked third
there So Britain people love it, but I love it
too Yes, and there are DVDs for seasons 1 and
2, 3 and 4, 5 and 6, and 7 to 10, or you could
just get the complete series. Exactly. The complete
series came out in 2007, all the rest were kind
of earlier, but I don't know if the extras on
the... Basically, season 1 and 2 are packaged
together and so forth, so there's 1, 2, 3, 4
individual sets. I don't know if the special
features on those are all included on the complete
set or not. Might be. I'd have to do some research,
but I'm assuming they would be. Yeah. But I don't
know how much it cost, but it's 89 episodes and
I am really tempted to get it if it's a good
price. If I can find this on like when Amazon
has their deal of the day or something like that,
if they ever did that with this, I would probably
purchase it. Or if I could just figure out, you
know, I'll have to look after the show or something
to find out a price. This this show is worth
owning, I think, in my opinion. Especially if
you like any of the shows that we're talking
about if you're a Doctor Who fan or like You
know Sherlock Holmes fan or get smart fan and
you've never seen this cartoon You should get
it because it might be one of your favorite cartoons
ever. Oh, yeah This is worth way more than just
a YouTube watch Yes, very much. So I'm actually
on TV shows on DVD calm uh... looking at the
complete series thing here and he has scheduled
in august twenty eighth two thousand seven debut
of danger mouse the complete series mega set
the nine dvd set contains tons uh... every episode
was a great deal of bonus material uh... cost
is eighty nine ninety five srp in the u .s .a
amazon dot com pre -order cost is sixty two ninety
nine courses three years ago so if i could get
it for like under fifty bucks would probably
do it yeah I'm in the same boat with you I agree
if I get the entire series for like 40 45 you
know something like that I would probably do
it oh and the last thing we didn't mention about
the Legacy there are rumors of a CGI revival
of the show. Yeah, I was gonna get to that. Yeah,
you're right Nothing has been officially yet.
Thank God So if they did it, right, I'd be all
about that. But chances are they wouldn't do
it, right? As we've seen when people try to redo
other mice in the past We do other When they
tried to redo Mighty Mouse, it didn't work out
so well. I don't want them to redo Danger Mouse.
They did it right the first time. Oh, okay. Yeah.
Mighty Mouse was done right the first time and
then done wrong twice. Danger Mouse was done
right the first time. Let's not do it wrong.
Let's not do it wrong even once. Yes. So I think
that's it for this week. And we will be back
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Now back to Tooncast! So final thoughts on DM.
DM is one of the best mouse characters in history
Obviously most people probably would say Mickey
Mouse is number one, but I love my I love me
some danger mouse I love the look of Danger Mouse.
It's unique. Like I said before, the voice acting
is cool because it's people you haven't heard
as an English audience. You haven't heard them
very often, so they're unique voices. I love
the green frog bad guy. I love almost all the
characters. The theme song's good. The adult
humor is good. The nods to pop culture is good.
I can't say anything bad about this show. That's
my final thought there's nothing bad to say about
danger mouse. I dare someone to say something
bad about danger mouse And if you do I will send
Mighty Mouse after you Well what I was gonna
say was we triple dog dare you to say something
bad about danger mouse oh Jesus oh come on. I'm
just kidding. I just like getting reactions out
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