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Disney’s Adventures of the Gummi Bears

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About this Episode

TFG1Mike, Optimus Solo, and Christopher from Chickenpoppod dive into Disney's beloved 1985 animated series that launched Walt Disney Television Animation. They explore the show's origins—inspired by Michael Eisner's son asking for gummy bear candy—discuss the memorable voice cast (Lorenzo Music, Corey Burton, Jim Cummings, and many others), analyze the core gummi characters and their distinct personalities, and examine why the series succeeded in hitting every mark: animation quality, humor, action, music, and character variety. The hosts debate their favorite gummies and human characters, reflect on the show's surprisingly unique formula that shouldn't work but did, and consider its lasting influence on animation.

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listening to Tooncast while trying to take over

the world. Bouncing here and there and everywhere.

I can't look back beyond compare. They are the

tiny bears. These matches and this cross are

part of their history. Along with the secrets

of gummy bear rituals. The edges is growing,

they thrive and grow. Whatever they do, gummy

bears. Bouncing here and there and everywhere.

I bet you that's the answer, yeah They are the

company, yeah They are the company, yeah It's

the Chicken Pop Pod! Hey, wait. This isn't Chicken

Pop Pod. This is Tooncast. Welcome to the 55th

episode of Tooncast, like I said, brought to

you by the Geekcast Radio Network. I am your

host, Theodore, Joe, and Mike, and today I'm

joined once again by Kevin Optimus Solo Thompson

and our special guest, Christopher Stapleton

from Chicken Pop Pod. Hello, guys. Hey! What's

shaking? At least that was better than the last

time you tried to do one of those. I got enough

practice. Well, yeah, you say it at the beginning

of every episode of Chicken Pop Pod. I do. Today

we will be talking about the Adventures of the

Gummy Bears or Disney's Adventures of the Gummy

Bears. What's been going on over here, Chris?

I just dropped another episode and so we've been

busy, busy, busy. Lots of irons in the fire.

Yeah, at least you're not dropping on Tom's head.

No. No, I'm not. What about you, Kevin? What

have you been up to? I'm just continuously doing

a lot of outdoor work at my house. I'm sorry

I didn't have a chance to when I moved in last

fall because of the weather. The newest thing

that I got going over at BehindTheVoiceActors

.com is, like I said in a couple episodes already,

a new Top 10 list out, Top 10 animated duck rolls.

And then the next two voice compare sections

I'm working on is with Shredder from Teenage

Mutant Ninja Turtles, which is kind of a big

project because about 11 people have done his

voice. And I'm working on getting some Atlin

and Chipmunk voice compares out. Those are the

next things that I'm working on. How the hell

does Chipmunks have voice compares if it's only

the father and the son that originally did the

voices? You have the father in the Alvin show,

you have the son and Janice Carmen in the Alvin

and the Chipmunk show, and then you have all

the people that did them in the live action.

Okay. Okay. The CGI is still voice actors. Right,

yeah. No, I understand that. I just... I was

thinking to myself, how the hell, okay, whatever.

Alright, not much has been going on with me.

Actually, the show that we are going to be talking

about today, we probably, I probably shouldn't

mention this, but we tried doing this like a

week ago. And it seems every time I go to record

a podcast, I am plagued by technical difficulties

and I have no idea why. But I think it's all

Kevin's fault. He's jinxing us Him and his non

internet connecting ass But anyway, um, I actually

ordered gummy bears off of Amazon by the time

this airs it'll be a few weeks But I ordered

it the other day and you know, actually I was

hoping to get it here today before we started

recording the show, but It'll be here tomorrow.

So that's That's a good thing. And I'm assuming

you don't have a script, Kevin. Correct. We've

gone a whole week without recording this show

and he still can't have a friggin' script. It's

freaking believable. So we're going into the...

I haven't got my ass connected to the internet

yet. You work in a friggin' high school! High

school has to be connected to the internet! I

don't want my ass connected to the internet.

Yeah, yeah, is that an Ethernet or what kind

of uh? No, it's Acernet. I got it, okay. Did

you just pick that up at Best Buy or? No, you

have to go to the Defunct Circuit City. Okay.

I don't know if you have to actually go to a

proctologist or what was involved there. Okay

then. Going into the history lesson here. Disney's

Adventures of the Gummy Bears is an American

animated television series that aired in the

United States in the mid -1980s through the early

1990s. The series was first animated project

by Walt Disney Animation Television and was mostly

inspired by the gummy bear candies. Disney CEO

Michael Eisner was struck with inspiration for

the show when his son requested the candies one

day. The series premiered on NBC on September

14, 1985 and aired there for four seasons. The

series moved to ABC for one season from 89 to

90 and concluded on September 6, 1991 as part

of the Disney Afternoon Television syndication

package of the series' 65 shows, 30 were double

features consisting of two 11 -minute cartoons.

that by bringing the series home to 95 distinct

episodes overall. The show is well remembered

for its theme music written by Michael and Patty

Silvershear. The series was later rebroadcast

on syndicated Disney afternoon block and rerun

on the Disney afternoon through the summer of

91, and later years it was shown on the Disney

Channel and Toon Disney, who most recently taught

by Zarian Cranning on Toon Disney on December

28, 2001. Wow, 10 years ago, or 9 years ago.

Seasons 1 -3 of the series were released on DVD

on November 14th, 2006. So let's get into some

general memories of Gummy Bears. Kevin, why don't

you go first? You know, I remember watching the

show. I mean, I don't remember all the details

of it from when I was a kid, but I do definitely

remember seeing the show. It was on for a number

of years. Obviously, being one of the first things

on Disney is kind of what... brought me over

to Disney and led to other cartoons that I'd

watch later on, which we'll probably talk about

a little bit later. But I just like the, I remember

the theme song. The theme song's just ridiculously

awesome, so I remember that basically by heart

since I saw it in the 80s. That theme song has

never left me. And I just like a lot of shows

when you have a variety of characters to choose

from. It's much easier for me to get into the

show than if you only have a couple. I mean,

there's lots of cartoons where you basically

have three or four, maybe five or six characters

to choose from, and that's all you're left with

for choices. And Gummy Bears is one of those

where everybody should have been able to find

a character they could relate to or a favorite

character because there's so many different,

you know, Gummy Bears plus villains plus humans

and everything going around there. So, you know,

I wouldn't be able to tell you without having

watched a few of these recently, you know, plot

lines. stuff like that, but I definitely remember

watching it when I was a child. Yeah, so how

about you, Chris? I've never seen it. I have

no idea what you're talking about. I've never

heard of it. It's a candy, right? You know you're

going to serenade us with the theme song eventually.

It could happen, actually. I remember 85 when

it came out. I actually distinctly remember catching

it pretty early on. Previously, to see anything

Disney, you actually had to have the Disney Channel,

which my parents aren't Bill Gates and whoever

he's married to. So I didn't have the Disney

Channel. So this was kind of the first venture,

Disney, into my television, and I flippin' loved

it. I was bouncing here and there and everywhere

myself. You know, it's funny, I vaguely remember

Cable in the 80s other than HBO. HBO was pretty

much what we really watched in my household,

for the most part, as far as cable networks.

And I remember watching this show, but I remember

nothing about the Disney Channel back then. It's

not like today where you turn it on and it's

either Phineas and Ferb or, you know, oh god,

that new show they just started, Good Luck Charlie,

You know, stuff like that. I have no recollections

of the Disney Channel back then, but I do remember

seeing the show, and I do remember really enjoying

it. And, you know, like Kevin said, the theme

song, and you said, Chris, the theme song is

just awesome. Oh, it is, yeah. I'm gonna say

that is my ringtone eventually. You better. If

you do that, no matter who's calling you, you're

happy about it. This is the IRS. I'm happy to

hear from you. Thanks for calling. Thanks for

letting me hear my ringtone click. I just I like

the serendipitous story of Eisner's kid popping

gummy bears. I mean honestly it could have been

any candy at all. Could have been little worms.

I know we could be sitting here singing raising

ants. They're covered in chocolate and the raisins.

I mean we could have been completely a different

story here or Swedish fish or something, but

It's kind of a cool story. I think the one thing

Iser did well What if they were sour gum worms?

How would that change things? That's that's basically

a gruffy. I guess You know just moving into the

characters in the in the voice actors here I

did watch because I put a call on Twitter earlier

this afternoon before we started recording this.

If anybody knew anywhere to find some gummy bears

episodes without having to go search for them

on YouTube, because when I search for them on

YouTube, I get crappy results. It's mostly people

rehashing the theme song or doing some video

montage that they have no right to do. Talk about

copyright infringement. But you know several

people gave me several links, and I did see the

very first episode a new beginning And I remember

the core group a lot more than I thought I did

yeah Zummy, gruffy, grammy, sonny, cubby Oh,

what's the other one? Tummy yeah, and Tummy I

believe is the same guy that voiced Barfield

yeah, Lorenzo music yeah Peter Venkman as well.

So yeah, he only has one voice. I mean that's

me exactly. It's his voice. Yeah So like I said

You know just some of the characters just to

list them off here you got like I said gruffies

on me See gruffies on me Grammy tummy Sonny Those

are in Cubby. Those were the main those are the

original crew and then of course you added like

Augustus and whoever else gummies of gum -a -doon

I haven't gotten that far in the show to even

know who these freaking people are but you know

first of all I'd like to bring up Grammy because

holy crap it's June 4th Yeah, and they and they

and they name an award after that character.

That's how much influence This show has on pop

culture. Yeah, I mean that they have the Grammys

and It's a powerful cartoon Yeah, right Yeah,

Jim for a is fantastic. I mean what else can

you say? I mean she's she's legendary. Yes There

was part of me when I was watching some of the

episodes. And again, once I get the DVD set,

I'm going to actually do a whole marathon and

watch them all the way through just to do so.

But I was half expecting the witch hazel laugh

a couple of times out of Grammy. Oh, man. There

are some nods, though. I mean, she does kind

of hint around. It's kind of tongue in cheek

through the series. Yeah. And honestly, when

we originally tried to record this episode, when

we were talking about Zummy Gummy, I honestly

did not remember who the hell he was. But he's

the one that's like the purple, he's dressed

in purple and blue. And he's like, he's basically

Grandpa Gummy. Yeah, it's basically what he is.

He sees the elder and I really really enjoy it

You know honestly, I don't think there's a bad

character in this original core group at all

You know they all totally agree. They all have

their in individual personalities. They all have

their individual things Gruffy is a little But

but he comes around She's pretty much that tough

guy with the, I guess you could say, ooey gooey

center, but that would kind of be stretching

it. Kevin, who are some of your favorite gummies?

It works out perfectly that you just mentioned

that. Gruffy's actually my favorite. I've said

it before when talking about this, but it's kind

of like that whole I won't compare it completely

to Care Bears but when you're surrounded by so

many people that are basically have these good,

fun, loving personalities, I always kind of like

that contrasting character and that's where I

see Gruffy coming into and I think he added a

lot to the series by being that kind of tough,

well, Gruffy character. I always like him. All

the other ones, I didn't dislike any of them

but for some reason he stood out a little for

me. Yeah, what about you Chris? Who would be

your favorite out of the core group of heroes?

I probably identify most with Cubby as a kid

but I'd say Tommy would be my favorite and I

think part of it is It's just a fun -loving kind

of you know foil character. I liked him I thought

he's a lot of fun. So I like I like Lorenzo music

so If I was an animated cartoon, I would I would

want his voice which would be difficult now he's

passed away but you know yeah unfortunately um

you know we're going to talk about it i'm gonna

have to really look at the um at uh well not

zombie but like uh uh gruffy when i get the dvd

set i don't really have to look at because the

first three seasons are on the dvd set i don't

have to really look at season one and season

two because bill scott originally voiced gruffy

and then it switched to Corey Burton from seasons

2 to 6. So I'm going to really have to see what

the differences are between the two, because

I honestly don't remember anybody switching or

getting recast. I think there was one other one

that was Jim Cummings. Yeah, but he did, where

is it? I think it was Chummi Gummi and there

was somebody else that did his. I can't remember

who the other voice actor was because there was

somebody else that did that. Until seasons 4

-6 come out on DVD, we will never know. Some

of the human characters. Going back and watching

them, I really remember Kevin. And Princess Kala.

And the king. What the hell is that? King, um,

damn it. There we go. Yeah. Sir Galen can kiss

my ass. I don't like him at all. So Galen to

me is pretty much Sir K from the Sword and the

Stone. Exactly. I hate that guy. I hate them

both. I think you're supposed to. Yeah, exactly.

Just, no. So out of the humans, Kevin, who did

you like? Well, obviously I think Kevin's the

one that... Easiest to like. I mean, I didn't

have anything against Princess Kala. I didn't

obviously, you know, the bad guys are bad guys

for a reason. You're not supposed to like them,

even though I a lot of times do, but I didn't

care for too many of the humans that were bad.

I mean, I think they did, you know, I think they

had a lot obviously to the series, but obviously

as a kid I'm not gonna like a lot of the bad

guys in this one. But yeah, I think just having

stands out to me. Yeah, and then, you know, as

far as the bones, we can talk about egg thorn

and the ogres but other than that all the other

like write -off villains or side character villains

that did they have no real even place maybe outside

of lady bane who was voiced by tres mcneil um

but uh wow they have characters named gad and

zook oh my god oh christ That's 50 bucks as that

was an Eisner thing Probably so We should mention

Tony too No, yeah, I was gonna start talking

about egg phone first cuz he is the main overall

run he Reminds me of an animated animated version

of Sheriff of Nottingham but an animated version

from the dude that played him in Men in Tights.

Who was that? I don't, I'm not even going to

look it up because my computer will end up going

apeshit but um, oh god who was it? I don't know

but he just The way he looks, the way his character

design, it just reminds me the hell out of The

Sheriff of Nottingham. Oh, there's a guy, I know

who you're talking about. I know who it is. I

don't remember his name. I don't remember his

name either. I know Richard Lewis was Prince

John, but I don't remember who played The Sheriff.

Anyways, Kevin, what did you think of Egg Thorn?

I mean, he was alright. I never really... I don't

know. I guess if there's one thing that I can

fault gummy bears, I can't always fault them

for, but if I want to be super picky for me as

a kid, there was never that villain that just

stood out to me like I was used to in so many

of my action cartoons, which is kind of typical

for more of a comedic, kid -friendly cartoon

like this one was. I mean, you're not going to

get like a Skeletor or a Mumrah or a Monstar

or a Megatron or something like that. stands

out and like just grabbed your attention you

know like like that but I didn't dislike any

of the bad guys in this one I just I don't know

just none of them none of them captured my attention

like I was used to I guess. I want to point out

to our listeners that Kevin listed Mumrah before

Momstar so it just goes to show you subliminally

he likes Thundercats better than Silverhawks.

I've gone from worst to best like a countdown.

Oh shut up. Chris, what did you think of Eggthorn?

First of all, you're wrong. And secondly, I loved

Eggthorn. Apart from snickering every time somebody

called him Dookie, I thought he was a phenomenal

villain. I loved him. I thought he's hilarious.

He's just the perfect quintessential 80s cartoon

villain. He's always up to no good, but he had

some character flaws that always disqualified

him, and I thought he was a great villain. You

know, he's one of those kind of very likable

but detestable yin and yang kind of villains

that I still think... I look back on him as one

of my favorites of the 80s. Oh, yeah. I completely

agree. As far as his ogres, Duk Igfan's shock

troops, big and strong, but very stupid. They

constantly call their master Dukie, much to his

annoyance. It's kind of like Beast Wars Megatron

when Inferno calls him, yes my queen! I knew

she'd stop calling me that. are organized in

a way of military rank. You have Toadwort, also

known as Toady, played by Bill Scott in season

one, and Corey Burton from seasons two to six,

the smallest ogre in Drek -moor, and Egg Thorn's

lackey second -in -command. As his name suggests,

he is a fawning and endearing character who mostly

bears any bullying and punishment brought upon

him by the Duke and his fellow ogres. Tony to

me when I was watching episodes today Tony to

me is the gummy bears version of Beast Wars waspinator

Because he's always getting the brunt of whatever

happens. Yeah absolutely Hey, I think so like

most of these these sidekicks. We just did an

episode 62 chicken pot pot what we talked about

uh... cartoon sidekicks and we talked about toting

we also make fun of snark for a quite a long

time but that's beside the point uh... but we

talked about total work and uh... i love this

character and uh... most of these uh... annoying

uh... you know small in the select sidekicks

are are you know like you could do it out i think

he's great i think he and you get born those

scenes uh... every every every time they have

a scene together i'm captivated You feel like

sympathy for this character. There's an episode,

I remember distinctly, where he sides with the

gummies and helps them. And then, because of

his loyalty, he goes back. I thought he was a

very cool character. He was great with the other

ogres being the brunt, the run of the litter

and everything. I like Toady. I could be by myself,

but I really like him. No, I like him too. I

don't know how Kevin feels, but... I really like

him. He's, you know, like I said, he's pretty

much the Gummy's version of Waspinator. So, what

about you, Kevin? Well, I mean, he brought on

cartoon sidekicks. I think that's one of the

first things I think of when I think of Tony

is I think of, you know, somebody like Orko from

He -Man, even though he was a good character,

or someone like, you know, Snark from Thundercats.

There you go, Mike. You're gonna be happy about

that. But that being said, I agree. You know,

Chris said, I wasn't annoyed by Toadie. Whereas,

you know, some of those other ones, even though

I liked him at times, you know, Oracle was annoying

at times, Snarf is super annoying at times, whereas

Toadie, I didn't get that from him. So even though

he was still kind of filling that role, I think

it was more of a, you know, it was easier to

stomach than some of those other sidekicks. Yeah.

Well, you know, Snarf was annoying from episode

one, and he never stopped being annoying the

entire series. That's the only bad part about

Thundercats. Uh, yes. Not bad. Not bad. That

is a ma - major bad part, but, uh, yeah. We could

list a few others. But we won't go into them.

Yeah, we don't want Kevin to, you know, explode

over his hatred for a certain, uh, cat. I honestly,

until I watch the series, I don't know if the

first three seasons have any of these other side

characters or the villains. I honestly don't

remember any of them, so we're not going to talk

about them. Outside of the ogres and Yggdrasil,

I honestly don't remember any of these other

villains that are listed. Moving into the production,

Well, real quick before you do that, I mean,

I know we've mentioned a lot of them, but me

being the voice actor guy, I just got to give

a shout out to a couple people, because this

cast is absolutely ridiculous. Oh, yeah. And,

you know, just a couple of them. We mentioned,

obviously, a few like Corey Burton, Jim Cummings,

Lennon's own music, et cetera. But you have Brian

Cummings in this, who has done some very memorable

roles. Papa Bear from Barenstein Bears, as well

as Dr. Meinbender from G .I. Joe, you have, we

just talked about June 4th, you have the veteran

voice actor Bob Holt. Some of the best female

voice actors in the 80s are actually all on the

show, including, you know, Katie Lee, Preston

Neal, Cass Susie, you have Alan Oppenheimer,

you know, I gotta give a shout out to my boy

Rob Paulson, and Paul Winchell Gargamel from

Smurfs, and then of course you have both. Peter

Collon and Frank Welker in this one. And that's

not even getting into a bunch of the other ones.

So I mean, it's just a hall for a cat. Speaking

of Paul Winchell and Gargamel, Chris, did you

see the posting about Gargamel? Yeah, yeah. I

threw one up myself. Hank Azaria, a pooh from

The Simpsons is going to be doing the live -action

Gargamel and he looks like a freaking sexual

predator in that outfit. I swear to God. It's

perfect though, come on. It brings Gargamel to

life, it really does. It plays off of the animation

model a little bit, but it makes him look like

a freaking sexual predator. It really does. I'm

not saying that in a bad way. I mean, even though

sexual predators are bad, I'm not saying that

they're not. But just the way that the pictures

look and the way that they were taken, it's just,

oh my god. Who's to say Gargamel wasn't? I don't

know. He didn't have a snorkel. He didn't have

a snorkel for a little while. Well, we don't

know what happened. You know, Johan, Peewee,

we don't know what happened. Oh man, that's a

bad Catholic joke right there. Oh my. I mean,

he's walking around like a cat lady in a giant

turtleneck dress. He's not exactly playing with

a full deck, man. I mean, you don't know. Oh

crap. Oh damn. Okay, going into... Wow. I never

thought Tooncast could ever go dark, kind of

like Beast Unleashed podcast does, but wow, that

was pretty dark. So, going into the, uh, going

into the behind -the -scenes segment, I know

everything is fresh production notes, but I do

want to talk about some of the directors and

the writers. For the directors, the main name

I recognize is Art Vitello. He was one of the

original, um, Looney Tunes background artist,

I believe. He had something to do with Looney

Tunes. I've seen him on the Looney Tunes DVD's

special features that I have. As far as the writers

go, Rich Fogel, Mark Zaslav, Art Botello. Let's

see... I'll start recognize here. That's Alan

Burnett, Dwayne Capasi. Just, you know, this

show is very, very well written. And it wasn't

like any other show, and you know, we said it,

you know, I said it in the, in the shit, the

history lesson. You know, this was Disney's first

adventure into television animation. And this

launched the trend for DuckTales, Darkwing Duck.

I was trying to think of Launchpad and Gizmo

Duck, but anyway... You're leaving a bonkers,

uh, The Wuzzles, some awesome, really great -

Yes. Speaking of The Wuzzles, that'll be our

next episode, and, uh, unfortunately, Chris vehemently

declined to be on that episode. I - I'm just

- I'm - I'm opposed to cross -breeding animals

like that. I think that's wrong. Dude, you're

the one that brought up the theme in one of the

Chicken Pop Pot episodes, and that's the only

reason why it's on the Tooncast schedule is because

you reminded me of the friggin' theme at your

own damn fault! Well, I apologize for that. But

I will not carry on with that conversation. Going

into the actual show, the basic premise for the

series focuses on the escapades of the eponymous

gummy bears, anthropomorphic bears who are the

last remnants of once great civilization of gummies

that fled the land centuries ago. When humans

jealous of the advancements and magical skills

of the gummy bears, first the species into exile.

Neither got about most of the humankind as fairytales.

The show's main cast of gummy bears, six in the

number of the answer of the series, increased

to seven during the third season, live in the

vast subterranean warren of Gummy Glen in the

Middle Kingdom of Dunwyn. The gummies' modern

adventures begin when they are discovered by

a human boy named Cavan, who happens to have

a gummy medallion found by his grandfather many

years earlier. You know, this is a very long

overall story here for them, but just an awesome,

awesome story. You know, the first episode sets

it up. It sets it up great, with Cavan meeting

them, discovering that they're alive, with, you

know, him and his whatever that, you know, decay

knockoff asshole is. You know, I swear, it's

like Disney. took the sword and the stone, the

two characters from that, I mean, you know, Gavin

and Wart are pretty much the same character,

almost, in the beginning, and then, you know,

they find something and this, that, the other

thing happens, but overall, you know, and I'll

have to go back and, when I go back and watch

it, I'll have to see, like, how much actual episodic

continuity is to it, but, um, there really isn't

any. Just to butt in a little bit, I mean this,

even though this is what launches Disney, one

thing is as different about it than most of the

other ones that we mentioned is it's basically,

there isn't, I mean there's not a lot of continuity

in this, and this one's more of a, you know,

basically just a one -shot type thing. I mean

there is some storyline, but you know, a lot

of the other ones add more, serialized plotline

type thing where this one didn't if I'm remembering

it right. Well, you know, I agree with you, but

when I say with this show as far as continuity,

I mean, you have, you know, they're not going

to have this first episode and then have the

second episode have nothing to do with the first

one. I mean, they're not going to take that whole

story and just say, oh, they're not going to

retcon like Marvel did Spider -Man deal with

the devil my ass. Anyways, overall, great show.

At least I thought it was. Great, great episodes.

I don't think there's a single episode that people

couldn't just sit down and watch it just for

fun. Thank God this is not Carey Brothers, because

Carey Brothers is like Elmira on sugar. Oh my

God. Yeah, it's awful. Chris, what are your...

Kevin, what are your thoughts on the actual show?

I was just going to say, you know, I'm usually

the type of person that in order for me to really

like a cartoon or anything there has to be basically

an overall story arc that, you know, goes from

the beginning of the series to the end. And that

being said, this is one of the few cartoons that

I think really pulls it off and is successful

without doing that. You know, other ones that

jump to my mind are, you know, comedic, brilliant.

cartoons like, you know, Animaniacs, Tiny Toons,

and stuff like that. But this show did a really

fantastic job of keeping your attention and keeping

you entertained, regardless of the fact that,

for me, there wasn't necessarily an overall story.

I didn't need an overall story for this because

the show was just good enough on its own. I agree.

What about you, Chris? I think it's a ridiculous

formula that probably shouldn't work, but it

did. And so, I mean, truthfully, I mean, we're

taking candy We're introducing that candy. Hey,

let's put it in medieval times. How's that sound?

Cool. What do you like? I like ogres. Let's throw

some ogres at it. Should we have a wizard bear?

Sounds good. How about a mean one? Perfect. How

about some rip -off stuff from Sword and the

Stone? I like it. Let's do it. And so all this

stuff, and we have these sort of ancient civilizations,

almost Aztec kind of. I mean, all these kind

of things that don't necessarily Shouldn't work

and and it was fantastic and I thought the whole

thing just had this great original feel and there's

nothing else like gummy bears and And so like

all of the the shows that that Disney produced

out of it out of the success of it None of them

really followed that same formula at all and

they're all sort of departures. We see a lot

of those, you know You see DuckTales and Darkwing

Duck and some similar things in other cartoons.

Gummy Bear stands alone and I think it's unique

and I think it's fantastic. It's my favorite

of the Disney serials that they threw out there.

I think one thing that it does that, you know,

we're doing Tooncast now, we're in our mid -upper

50, getting in there as far as the number of

cartoons we've covered. And usually with a cartoon,

We will say, you know, oh, it has really good

this, but it's lacking in this, or, you know,

it's got a really good voice cast, but, you know,

the musical soundtrack to it, or, you know, that

type of stuff is lacking. And with Gummy Bears,

I think they hit on everything. You have music,

not just with theme song, but music throughout

is fantastic. You have a fantastic voice cast.

You have a multitude of characters, whereas everyone

can find somebody they like. You have... the

medieval storylines going into it. You have Disney

animation, which tends to be a little bit a step

above some of the other animations that we were

getting in the 80s and early 90s. You have the

humor, you have the action. They hit on everything.

I can't find a specific area of the cartoon that

we've covered where they fall short. That's why

we haven't seen the same thing necessarily repeated

because it's very hard for somebody to get everything

right Yeah, I agree I do too. So moving into

the music segment Are we getting serenaded tonight?

You know, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do that

I'm not gonna do that to your listeners I want

them to stay keep listening Oh hell, if they're

not listening now, they won't listen to the next

50 -something episodes. But, no, the series of

music was done by Thomas Chase and Steve Rucker.

For a second there, that's a Darius Rucker. Wow.

Talk about a hootie flashback. That's almost

like eating a sour skittle. Yuck. Or a sour gummy

worm. He said gummy worm. They had those, yeah.

Yeah, that was an episode they cut where, you

know, unfortunately, Cubby got into some old

gummy berries and got some gummy worms. And yeah,

gummy tapeworm. Oh, God. You know, like you guys

said earlier, like you said, Kevin, they hit

every mark on this show. And the music was...

was as much a big part as everything else and

normally on Tooncast there are some shows especially

those damn Transformers knock off the go -bots

where it's like the only good thing about that

show is the theme song but with this show the

theme song just adds to the goodness of the cartoon.

Yeah and you know I have to bring it up since

I've referenced it in every other or every third

show that we talked about but you know I would

I'm still big on cartoon theme songs. I actually

have two CDs that each have 50 to 75 cartoon

theme songs that I've made myself that I'll just

pop in on a random day just to listen to because

nothing can put you in a better mood than listening

to a cartoon theme song. And I also have a list

over behind the voice actors of the top ten theme

songs of the 80s. It depends on what day it is

and what mood I'm in, but I always have this

one at either the best or the second best cartoon

theme song. of the 80s, if not of all time. And

the only one that I can compete with in my mind

in the 80s is the Mysterious Cities of Gold theme

song, which most people don't know. But this

theme song, I don't know how you could listen

to this theme song and not be pumped up for whatever's

coming next. It's just remarkable. It sets the

mood and it gets you excited for, I mean, they

could have, they didn't thank God, but they could

have thrown Absolute crap on the screen and I

probably would have watched it at least for a

while just based on that theme song Oh, yeah,

I I completely agree with that But I don't know

I can't if anyone that says there's another theme

song in the 80s that's better than this I disagree

Well as far as Disney cartoons go I think you

know that they all have their merits I don't

think you can really stack this up to You know,

if it's cartoon -themed songs of this genre,

kind of like Tiny Toons or Animaniacs or something

like that, but you can't match Gummy Bears up

against friggin' Silverhawks or Thundercats or

Transformers or G .I. Joe. You just can't. But

if it's something in the same vein... No, you

can. You can do it. It's better than all those.

Shut up. I'm sorry, those theme songs are not

theme songs. Those theme songs are more just

musical serenades. There's no song to it. This

is an actual theme song. Wings of Metal, Nerves

of Steel? That's not a song lyric? Are you kidding

me? Talk about a horrible sidekick in Copper

Kid. I like Copper Kid. I like Copper Kid. Okay,

Copper Kid. He's greater than Snarf, for sure.

For some reason for some reason we deemed snarf

a luck dragon turkey and our latest episode I

don't even know why he's a luck dragon turkey,

but that's what he is I Think the difference

between this theme song is you know this theme

song has It has verses that has chorus that has

all the musical parts of an actual song I mean

a lot of those other ones have a little ditty

like that you're trying to remember But it doesn't

have a full -out song like this one doesn't right?

I don't know I just I just think this one stands

up there way better than almost anything I've

ever heard. Like I said, with the exception of

maybe Mysterious City of the Gold, but... Tooncast

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follow -up thoughts on Gummy Bears. Kevin, why

don't you go first? Oh, well, I mean, I just

think like we were kind of talking about a little

bit earlier, it's something that basically got

everything right. You know, all the different

aspects that you look for in a good cartoon,

it got. And on top of that, you know, it was

successful, being number one in a time slot for

MVP for all four seasons it was there. So you

had a good cartoon on all aspects, you have a

successful cartoon, and you have a historically

significant cartoon, and for me that's the trifecta.

So, you know, I don't think you can say anything

bad about Gummy Bears. I don't think I could

put it as my number one cartoon of the 80s just

because I was such a, you know, into the action

cartoons earlier, but I would say it's definitely

at the top of somewhere. You know, I've never

tried to do a top list because... It seems like

it'd be too hard, but it's earned a spot somewhere

in the top ten, I would think. Yeah, and it's

funny, our favorite people, our top 100 animated

list people, there was no information about that

in the wiki. Fuck you, IGN. We love you for pimping

out our Batman Arkham Asylum 2 exclusive, but

fuck you when it comes to that animation list.

Chris, what are your final thoughts on The Gummy

Bears? For me, the litmus test because I still

watch this stuff. It's not even just nostalgic

for me, but I did get the DVDs. I really hope

they release the remaining seasons. I haven't

heard anything about it, but I hope they do.

But it holds up. I think the holdup factor for

me is very important. Like Kevin and I were talking

just a little while ago about Black Star from

Filmation. It does not hold up. I mean, honestly.

It's nostalgic, but it has no value now. Gummy

Bears, you watch it today, and it's better than

95 % of what's on TV animation. the quality,

the storylines, the plot, the characters, the

whole bit, the voice acting. I think it's phenomenal.

It stands up, holds up. I could watch it today

all day. So if you've never seen Gummy Bears,

then definitely find it somewhere and watch that

because it's phenomenal. Have you brainwashed

your daughter with it yet? I haven't done Gummy

Bears yet. I'm kind of slowly moving through

my library. It's coming, believe me. She will

not watch anything made in this decade, that's

for sure. Hey, shut up! Alright, it's plug time.

Kevin, what's going on over at BehindTheVoiceActors

.com? You know, just basically, lots of voice

actors on a daily basis are showing up, so if

you'd like to, you know... If you like to look

for your favorite character and see all the different

people that have voiced them and there's polls

for you to vote on which one does the best job,

there's forums for you to discuss it with other

people. So everything from anime to video games

to movies like Land Before Time and most of the

ones I do are of course 80s and 90s classic cartoons

like He -Man, Turtles, G .I. Joe, Transformers.

Go check it out, and I think you'll like the

voice comparison section, especially, but there's

lots of other stuff to check out too. And, Chris,

what's going on over with the chicken nuggets?

Uh, you know. You know what we do. You guys brutally

torture topics. There's been a few shows where,

like, I'm like, wait, they didn't talk about

what? What the hell? And I just, like, viciously

attack you guys on Twitter. It's like, okay,

this, this, and this is this. You guys get this

wrong. Did you know it's entertaining? No, I

know it's entertaining, and it was great. I really,

even though I didn't stay for the majority of

it, but I did catch part of your all's very first

live broadcast when you were doing the Coke and

the Pepsi bit. Yeah. That was kind of cool. It

was a lot of fun, and we had a much better turnout,

probably. At least double the turnout I expected

so there's a lot of fun. So we're gonna try and

do that again and Possibly this month. So I encourage

you guys if you want to check it out. It is a

lot of fun So the other guys are actually funny

I'm the straight man. So Which isn't true But

it's a lot of fun. So a lot of the topics that

we're talking about tonight, you'll hear there.

So a lot of 80s fun pop culture stuff. So that's

at chickenpoppod .com. It's a weekly podcast,

and we are kind of dabbling with the live podcast

still as well. But we also have a spin -off comic

book podcast called CPP Comics. So if you're

in the comic books, you've got friends that are,

you can check that out. That's on our YouTube

channel, youtube .com slash chickenpotpod. And

as if we didn't have enough going on, we're doing

a wrestling podcast called The Folding Chair.

So if you dig wrestling or used to, we talk a

lot about what's going on in wrestling and try

to make it entertaining. So go to foldingchaircast

.com and all that stuff's linkable from our site,

chickenpotpod .com. So check it out. For shows

call when you're running 11 simultaneously. Thank

you very much. No I'm gonna start a podcast just

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Oh God, I wish you and this said that because

now I bet you like a million Pages on Facebook

are gonna say join us to get 1 million fans that

so marks are better than thundercats. I hate

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little bit of that. And when you add it up, you

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