WWE Hell in a Cell 2018 Review

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Hello and welcome to May... I am Mike's this

is episode 47 of the show and I think folks we're

just gonna stick to reading the boom studios

WWE comics we're not gonna be doing any more

pay -per -views or anything like that we're done

I'm of course TF2 yeah you heard me I am of course

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completely hello All hope is gone right now for

WWE. Wow. Wouldn't go that far. Anyway. I don't

know. So, Hell in a Cell, 2018. We start. This

was on the kickoff show, which neither one of

us watched. I am, of course, TfU and Mike. If

I went back and watched them live. Oh, okay.

Well, whatever. It was really good. I am, of

course, TfU and Mike. Joining me is Ryan, the

Unnamed Flo Merkley. Um, kickoff match was, uh,

tag WWE Smackdown tag team champions, the new

day versus Rusev day. Solid match. And it was

a good starter. It kind of sucks that there was

no, there was no crowd, nobody gotten into the

stadium yet, pretty much, especially when they

first started. Just keep an eye out for that.

They tried to make it seem like there were a

good number of people, but there was not. Early

on in any case. I was solid match the new day

retained to nobody's Real surprise. Yeah, they

do not seem to know what to do with poor Rusev

who is over like crazy Although it looks like

they've Starting the wheels on that finally,

but it's quite a bit overdue. So we'll see I

just want to preface this by saying If you're

going to have a pay -per -view called Hell in

a Cell, every single match should be in the cell.

I don't think everyone should have been, because

it kind of cheapens it. So the first match was

Hell in a Cell, Hardy and Orton. I think that

made sense. The two that bugged me... they should

have done something or had some sort of stipulation

for becky versus charlotte since that was supposedly

a big personal feud and then the one that they

really missed the boat on is joe ajay that should

have been in the cell because joe's been talking

about his family and taking over as daddy and

everything by the way his storybook was great

yeah I was glad they replayed that because I

thought it worked perfectly. I thought I just

I have loved Joe in that feud and it is legitimately

one of the reasons I'm still watching this at

all because I mean, you know, Owens is floundering

and pretty much not doing anything. They don't

know what to do with Elias. They don't know what

to do with Rusev. Sammy Zane is injured like

a lot of my favorite. guys are either out but

then AJ and Joe are just killing it and those

are two guys I absolutely love so that makes

me happy and as for people killing it this match

holy cow so anyone that complains that the PG

era isn't allowed to have rough wrestling or

matches that look hard hitting or that kind of

thing are completely full of shit because they

should watch this holy crap Orton's back and

his legs were a mess after this. Yep. We had

the sequence with the screwdriver, which I did

turn away Yeah, I was kind of doing the whole

is it over yet? Yeah, it's like it's like peeking

through your you know Putting your hand over

your face peeking through your fingers kind of

a thing like oh my god I can't watch this I can't

watch this and then the last Spot which I need

to mention to because Hardy had said he was gonna

do something crazy It wasn't as crazy as I had

feared that making made me happy nobody went

off the top of a cell this year And that actually

makes me happy. Yeah, cuz this stuff's dangerous

enough having seen it live and Knowing the injuries

we've seen in the past year So I'm perfectly

okay with that But regardless of that Hardy swings

himself and it looks like he's gonna try to do

a splash He was face first through the table

onto the mat. Oh yeah that was crazy yeah and

this was a really good opening match and for

as much crap as i've given orton since we started

doing the show and in the years before then for

when he seems unmotivated and that sort of thing

both he and hardy have done a really good job

in this feud and this was a terrific match it

was a great start to it it really it did a great

job of making the cage feel dangerous which by

the way would have made more sense if they had

more than one other cage match yep yeah this

like i mentioned a cage match that took a shit

over the entire cage and the stupid whatever

get to it later yeah we'll get to it at the end

it's all right so the orton the orton harry match

um I dug it. I thought it was cool. You're right.

There are some moments where it's like, I just

can't watch this. I was glad that it was hard

hitting and they had everything, but it wasn't

dangerous. Yeah, and that's the way it should

be. Like, unless you've got like a lunatic in

your corner, things shouldn't really go off the

rails. Hell, even the announcers said, like you

were saying earlier about how Orton seems to

be very much into the feud and very much into

the story, the announcers even commented on that

where it was like, oh, you can tell Randy's really

into this. He's really enjoying this. He's not,

you know, he's giving it his all. He's not just

phoning it in, which is great because Let's face

it, the last time we saw Randy in a big, big

feud thing, it seemed like he was not that interested.

Oh, if you're referring to the gender feud, oh,

man, neither of us were fans of that. I don't

know what anybody was. Oh, no. Yeah, no. So bleh.

All right. And I should note, before I forget,

that Orton won. Yep, Orton beat Hardy. Yeah,

after Hardy went face first. They did the whole

EMT bit, which... Didn't seem at a place or anything

to this was all well done. I was pretty happy

with the whole thing Absolutely The WWE Smackdown

women's championship Becky Lynch defeats Charlotte

Flair I Love this. I thought this was great.

I liked I've liked Becky since she debuted since

she first won the championship being the first

SmackDown women's champion. And I've thought

for the longest time that she deserved another

shot. And thank God we finally get it with her

being champion again. I thought they did a great

job too, especially with what they had to follow.

They had to follow the Hell in a Cell match,

one of the only ones we're getting on the night.

And they did well, the crowd was into it. I'm

happy for Becky Lynch who I think really does

need to be elevated because she's extremely talented

she always was and yeah there were a couple spots

that were a little not smooth we'll say right

much like my transition there but Overall, no,

I thought the match was solid though and everything

worked. Well, there were a couple matches by

the way that the endings were a little off this

one and notably miss Maurice and Brian and three

but M &M versus B &B Why you have M &M going

up against the B &B Well, I'm an M used to be

mrs. Old tag team way back when yeah, we need

whatever so back to this match though Yeah, this

was solid. There was a lot of The two of them

working different body parts no, I was happy

with this match and again, it was really solid

It's weird. This has been a really good start

to the pay -per -view. It's like everything's

great for a long time Something that happens

at the end Yeah, we're folks we're gonna be somewhat

positive and whatever throughout most of this

But this was great once it gets to the end We're

both like I'm I want people to put a an f -bomb

counter on me and count how many times I use

an f -bomb because I'm pretty sure I'm gonna

use a lot but yeah, this was a solid match and

It's obviously not the end of the feud. They've

had them right beat since but I'm fine with it

continuing to go on and becky works really well

as an in -between or heel whatever you want to

consider her as but yeah she's clearly enjoying

it too i would say so yeah well done absolutely

speaking of well done holy crap is this next

match good yeah Yeah, it is that so we had the

raw tag team match Seth Rollins and D man froze

versus Drew McIntyre and Dolph Ziegler I'm just

gonna say it now. This was my match of the night.

This was terrific Action all of these guys work

really well together and they do Ambrose aside

from so Ambrose on Monday night after this looks

great, too He works really well with these guys,

and I think that's something they should continue

with for a while. I'm Rollins works better. It

works really well with anybody. I've said it

before he could probably make me look He can

drag me to a point five star match. That's how

good Seth Rollins is and the end to this Uh,

so first of all, I was surprised that McIntyre

and Ziegler won. I was surprised that they won

cleanly, but I liked how they did it with Drew

kind of running in and he hits the claymore while

Rollins is going for that falcon arrow of his

after the super plex, which he likes to do. And

I like that Ambrose may not have noticed that

there was the tag in and I mean, I'm pretty sure

he did, but there's some question as to whether

or not, like it was clean, but it wasn't super

clean. Neither team looked bad at the end is

what I'm trying to say. Don't be weak or anything.

And the guys just killed it in the ring. There

wasn't, there really wasn't a go take a bathroom

break or something moment in what was a pretty

long match between four guys. I was really impressed

with this and Feel kind of bad for the other

tag teams on raw because they've done well all

this time But man these guys are killing it Yeah,

we finally have a Something for Ziggler to do

that Is it work great when they give him something

to do and he's motivated much like Randy yeah,

exactly But he's perfect with McIntyre. For whatever

reason, the two of them just gel, and I hope

they don't break them up. Yeah, I hope they don't

either. Because the whole idea of the shield

versus Braun Strowman and the zigzag of McIntyre,

like... We haven't seen I don't remember the

last time since I've been watching WWE since

2007 I don't remember the last time I saw a good

three -man team Thing basically having a stables

feud. Yeah. Yeah, I mean long time Yeah, I haven't

had many stables and the last few they've had

were terrible. Remember the League of Nations

They just threw together guys and that kind of

thing. It's nice that, yeah, this has worked

out well. And it's great because they definitely

have chemistry and Roman and Braun usually have

chemistry with one another as well. It's crazy.

It's like if they were, you know, how stupid

would it be to say add a third person to that?

I mean, how dumb would that be? That would be

just ridiculous. Luckily though they're in a

cage, so I'm sure we'll have an end to that so

Should we just skip over everything so we can

curse out the ending or no No, three for three

on good matches and something tells me will be

four for four. Yeah So up next is AJ versus Joe

WWE Championship match should have been in the

cage. It really should have been in the cell

It should have finished the show. If you're gonna

have both world titles defended and you're gonna

have one of the matches doesn't have an ending,

have the one that does have an ending close the

show so people don't leave feeling ripped off.

Yeah. That's why they should have done it. And

not to mention, to be blunt, AJ Styles has been

there every single night, and Joe has been as

well, barring the injuries he's suffered. They

deserve, and this feud, by the way, has been

killing it, they deserve a much higher profile

than what they've gotten. They've been shoved

aside for a bunch of shitty part -timers who

don't give a shit about the business and just

come in for a paycheck to show up for two minutes

of work. I'm not happy about that scenario, especially

when these two guys keep killing it and This

was a solid match I do think it should have been

the cage because it would have felt more Personal

like the two of them have been talking about

each other's families that kind of thing. I Don't

understand why in hell in a cell. It's not in

the cell i don't get it either whatever i'm not

going to get angry about that because it's not

their fault and yeah this was a really good match

regardless i loved i liked the ending even though

it was sort of a non -ending with aj gets the

pin but we find out that joe made aj tap out

right and it makes sense because i mean the ref

can't be on both sides at the same time uh it

doesn't make sense from a well we can't change

the Can't change the result because let's be

honest. They change the result all the time Yeah,

also as we see later on rules mean fuck it all

in a stupid pay -per -view anyway What was I

saying for is getting really angry again, oh

so But yes Stiles wins he retains I still liked

the ending I thought it was well done in terms

of the timing to Like AJ's gotta make the tap

right before the three And then you compare to

say the finale like the last match where Mick

Foley clearly counts to three at one point Like

yeah All right, so we have the Ms. Maurice Daniel

Bryan Briebella match. Ms. Maurice win So it's

the right ending It's the right ending because,

again, they're gonna be... Because Daniel should

finish it one -on -one. Yeah. So I think it's

the right ending. I didn't like the... So the

match wasn't bad, by the way, but I didn't like

that the focus was on Brie and Maurice. It should

have been on Daniel and The Miz, who've been

building this for years. And let's be honest,

it's... mostly on Bree and So the Bellas and

Lesnar need to form a stable of people who are

part -time and just show up for goddamn paycheck

or to promote their shit because the only reason

the Bellas have suddenly returned is to promote

Total Divas which I could care less about and

They are It annoys me because this writing team

can't find anything for Oscar to do or some of

these other wrestlers who are here 24 -7 and

who quite frankly are way more talented than

either Bella. But the two of them get to be the

focus the second they come back. I mean, Brie

and Nikki are teaming up with Rousey for Evolution,

which is just a load of shit to do. Sorry, not

for Evolution. For the Australia Super Showdown.

Super Showdown. And then they announced another

Saudi Arabia match, and I'm like, event. And

I'm like, really? Seriously? Also, it's really

shit timing to be doing an after evolution because

they're not going to be allowed to wrestle on

that card. Exactly. I get WWE needs money, but

this is a bad look for them. Yeah. And whatever.

I don't... I don't even want to get into I am

not excited for that show. I am not I Leave Shawn

Michaels and the Undertaker alone Yep, they have

some of the greatest performances in all of history.

I don't need to see them both Quite frankly trotted

out way past their prime Not as full -timers

and yeah away valuable time this is why none

of This is why nobody can get behind rains or

nobody gets behind Ambrose and Rollins or some

of the others fully Because they keep shoving

these legends back in our face Or the or a guy

like Lesnar or the Bellas or whoever telling

us they're special and we need to feel Everything

we have for them as they're so special and it's

a one night only thing when by the way they show

up every week and they it just it doesn't help

anybody it's at the expense of the performers

that are there day in and day out and it's really

frustrating at this point they can't they can't

seem to figure out why they can't get stars over

but then they just they just keep throwing money

at part timers and You know, oh, this is the

one match you need to watch for oh with this

guy who wrestles, you know once every five years

Yeah, great Whatever women's title match women's

title match Ronda actually. Yeah, do you have

anything to say about ms. Maurice and Brian and

I mean it's a nice setup to what I assume is

gonna be a triple match thing like a This is

the first one or the stuff on raw on Raw or smackdown

I forget whatever like that was kind of like

the first thing this was the second kind of thing

and then the Supposedly grand finale between

Miz and Brian or is gonna be it at Super Showdown

or whatever this Yeah, but this should have been

more personal my thing like like they should

have gone after Bree and Brian shouldn't have

been about Bree and Mary's first of all and especially

since they're both part -timers So again, we

get back to my earlier point that part -timers

are stealing the focus and then to it should

have been more personal like I They whatever

they would have been they would have been criticized

for copying their own stuff, but I don't really

care about that Imagine if say Miz had done something

in the match He cheats, you know, he hits Brian

with a chair and the ref doesn't see it or something

else. He knocks him down. Imagine if Miz took

Brian's wedding ring off and threw it in the

crowd. Alec Gargano, Ciampa. Imagine how much

more people would hate him. Like, I don't understand

why they think the basic kind of good versus

evil stuff doesn't work. In WWE, I think something

like that. It'd be perfect for this feud Or I

want to say it would work for Joe AJ But honestly,

they've done such a good job without stuff like

that. They don't need it, but this one I don't

know. I just could have used something to be

more personal And I don't, I thought about this

while you were talking and I don't necessarily

mean this because it would basically just be

a repeat of what they did before. And I know

Daniel and Brie wouldn't have, like Daniel and

Brie are like out for blood kind of a thing,

like they just want to punch him in the face

kind of thing. I almost wish we had a repeat

of what Ms. and Maurice did to John and Nicky

with the whole, like, reality star mimicking

thing, except on Daniel and Bree's part. Like,

basically mimic the Ms. and Maurice. I think

that would have been a good start to it, but

I think you gotta get more personal to really

kind of make the people hate it till then. They

really haven't. Yeah, they really haven't. The

best personal feud that's going on right now

is really AJ and Joe. Yeah, at the WWE level,

yes. Yeah. Alright, so Ronda versus Alexa...

I like this, I think it's cool. I kinda like

Alexa, I don't like her against... I like Ronda

more than I like Alexa. But it's one of those

things where we knew Ronda was gonna come in

and ragdoll her. Yeah, there's no way Alexa was

gonna win, but I kind of like that they managed

to... Do I Just kind of like that they managed

to find a way for Alexa to at least be competitive

this time, right? Yeah, it's nice. It sets up

that you know, eventually somebody's probably

gonna be Rhonda Yeah, and it's gonna be a matter

of she's competing when she shouldn't have or

They do something they shouldn't have whatever

Yeah, but this works also absolutely full credit

to Ronda Rousey who people and myself continue

forget that she's a rookie and She managed to

sell the rib injury really well. You legitimately

felt like she was hurt. Yep The only negative

I have is for whatever reason Alexa Bliss I'm

hoping it was a storyline thing, but in any case

she was pulled through the injury on Tuesday

I'm hoping that some of those tosses then maybe

the iron bar or armbar or whatever didn't actually

hurt Alexa Bliss because I've been really impressed

with Rhonda's work so far and she just continues

I feel like to improve and so Just don't like

the idea of she potentially hurt somebody in

this yeah, but Rhonda like all the women have

different styles Obviously they have different

moves. They have different this they have different

weight like summer ground and pounds somewhere

You know high flyers just like the men Rhonda

is a refreshing breath of fresh air in WWE because

she's a UFC fight. She's a fighter. She's not

traditional wrestler Strange kind of thing. She's

so different that it makes it so refreshing to

watch her matches. And that's what, that's the

other thing I find really frustrating with Asuka

is that's how she was in NXT. She was this buzzsaw

that used strikes and they've really just, they

just don't know what to do with her in WWE at

all. I don't know currently because I don't remember

because I'm just so tired of it. I don't know

what Shinsuke's doing currently, but I'd like

to see the two of them. He's got the US title.

Oh, that's right. Wow. Well, that belt's been

forgettable since he's had it. He had a good

match on Tuesday at least, but yeah. Yeah. Should

know yeah, Rousey one and you mentioned that

but yeah solid match again This has been a great

pay -per -view so far. I do want to mention one

thing. This was now the segment that Joe was

shown backstage talking to Paige I really liked

this Joe continued to He's become a very good

actor through this. I mean he legitimately seems

extremely angry and he consistently threatens

mostly the show, Smackdown, rather than just

threatening Paige, basically saying that he's

gonna mess with AJ for three weeks. Now they

did a lousy job on the Tuesday after, but whatever.

But having said that I just I really liked Joe's

work there I like that page as a former wrestler

at least kind of stood up for herself with him

it was a good segment that set things up for

the third match in a row between Joe and AJ and

I'm still excited to see it Which leads us to

the next match because I'm not excited at all

to see the next rematch This match can eat it

so The pay -per -view has been great so far and

up until the last I'd say what five minutes or

whatever This is a great pay -per -view this

match. So this is the title match L and SL between

Roman Reigns and Braun Strowman I Loved first

of all their work with each other in the ring.

We're not gonna, we'll get to the end in a bit.

But the work with each other in the ring was

really well done. Yeah, it was. The one thing

I didn't like, and I'm gonna be blunt, is Foley

did a terrible job as the ref. Okay, so I wanted

to bring this up before we started talking about

this. Hell in a Cell. Mick has a history with

Hell in a Cell, right? Like the only real the

only real he's got a history with something.

I'm just saying like no. I know I'm joking. It's

The only reason why Mick Foley is the special

guest referee is because of his history with

hell in a cell That's the only reason why he's

the special guest referee and again It goes back

to what you were saying earlier about bringing

legends back and focusing on them Even though

he's not really the focus here I'll be an all

-right job of not letting him be the focus but

having said that I have a feeling where you're

Going with this so we don't need a guest referee

for this match We don't need it. Well, that's

not if you're gonna have one Give them the ability

to do something in terms of There's got to be

a reason for it. Yeah, if Mick Foley had Been

able to fight off Paul Heyman or something because

Mick Foley is a pro wrestler Yeah. You know,

he's got experience in the ring, et cetera, et

cetera. Then it would have made more sense. But

it really didn't matter that it was Mick. It

could have been anybody. Yeah. Like there was

no reason for it. And to be blunt, the other

referees are trained and they know how this works.

Yep. And we wouldn't have had the botcheroni.

Roman versus Braun, I absolutely loved it. I

thought the match between the two of them was

great. They've always had good chemistry. I thought

that because we have this whole thing with the

shield and Roman, or not Roman, the shield and

Braun and his team, whatever they're going to

end up calling themselves, I don't even know.

Let's hope it's better than the League of Nations.

The monsters among men or something. I don't

know whatever Like because it's Roman and brawn

fighting I love that Drew and Dolph and Seth

and Dean came out and got on top of the damn

perfectly done too because yeah points of the

cage is that there's not gonna be Interference

and there wasn't right. I know some people will

say well it kind of took away from the match

inside still think it would have worked if there

had been if there wasn't something else that

happened either but I just want to concentrate

on this part yeah for now yeah before I get really

negative I really liked it I thought it was well

done you had you know Dean climbs the cage with

the with the kendo stick to save the saves Seth

from the double team yeah the whole thing was

just really well done and the then then you know

we get Dean takes out Ziegler and then back entire

Dean kind of take out each other yeah and Yeah,

I thought that was solid and then you know Seth

gets back off and that he and Ziegler do the

spot where they come down Dan probably the most

dangerous spot of the night. It's either that

or Hardy I mean, technically the whole screwdriver

to the ear thing is super dangerous. Oh, I meant

like the one from the cage. Oh, okay, well there's

that too. You know, you said earlier in the episode

about nobody technically fell off the cell or

nobody jumped off the cell or whatever. I would

say that even though they were... It's still

a good fall, but at least it's more controlled

than Mick or Kevin going off the top. Oh, absolutely.

Yeah. I absolutely love this. I think all of

it was done super great. And then the pay -per

-view ended. There we go. So this is great. I

give this an A. Yeah. Sadly, the pay -per -view

did not end, Ryan. So if we were scoring this,

by the way, I would honestly give this three

and a half, maybe even a four out of the full

four at this point. It didn't end. Yeah. Okay,

so what are they doing? Like, I'm going to ask

that and I'm not waiting for an answer because

I'm going to continue. But what the hell are

they doing? Because I've been saying all of this

year, the end of last year, all of the year and

a half that that idiot held the championship

back. What the hell is WWE? The idiot's a little

harsh, by the way. I totally would have done.

If I was getting paid for it, I would do exactly

what he did. Right, I understand that. I know

what you're saying though, no. I'm not, okay,

I'm not saying specifically, yes I did call Brock

Lesnar an idiot, I'm not saying specifically

that - You're gonna die. It's the, well, I don't

think he's going to hear this because no one

listens to this show. Oh, but when I make that

joke, you're really mad at me. Well, because

I'm hoping other people will listen to the other

show. There's not a lot of people listening to

the other show. Anyway, go listen to The Full

Bag, folks. Make your greatest game in the comics.

Anyway, here's the thing, like, Think this was

dumb on WWE's part because You're you just got

the championship back Brock's off to UFC or wherever

he's gonna go whatever and You feel like Roman

can't do this on his own or whatever I don't

know you feel like Roman is not getting over

and he probably isn't because like you said earlier

Everybody booze him constantly You know, but

like, do we really need Brock Lesnar and Paul

Heyman coming out? Brock actually kicking in

the door to hell? Like, really seriously? Like,

do we really need this? Like, and it ends in

an own contest. Like, that's stupid. What are

we s - How do we point at the cell? So I've said

this before, the end of a pay -per -view shouldn't

change how you feel about the entire thing. I

feel like it's okay whenever the entire point

- the whole show and the stipulation is that

you get a winner and there's no interference

or if there is interference there's still a winner

because we've seen interference in Hell in the

Cell matches before most notably by the way they

did pretty much the exact same thing with Kane

right in his debut and we still had a finish

this was just terrible and it helps you said

it already this helps nobody This doesn't help

well to me and I'm not you know, I'm not trying

to bash the people involved because this goes

above them Yeah, it's not about the people it's

about the events in the way that but there was

pretty clearly like a feeling of people and exhaling

among WWE fans When Brock drops the title and

we would actually see finishes we would actually

see the belt defended etc etc and then to just

Bring him back immediately though. I Don't understand

it at all and fine. So let's say he comes back

And let's be honest, by the way, the real reason

they brought him back is they feel like they

can make more money at the Australia show If

Brock Lesnar's headlining it. All right, fine.

Whatever but He comes back and at the Australia

show Somebody's gonna lose Or, well, yeah, never

mind. I just said something stupid. I mean, if

somebody was supposed to lose here, obviously

that didn't happen. So what, are they going to

have another non -ending? I don't understand

it at all, and it's really frustrating. I think

it's terrible. It's super frustrating. It makes

no sense. Okay, I can understand their fears

of Roman not - think of them not thinking Roman

can win on his own when clearly he can he has

before but like I understand that whole point

with like having Seth and Dean come out and be

his support be like the shield versus everybody

vert instead of just Roman versus individual

whoever you are kind of a thing but like the

fact is I think that they need Brock to help

with it like I wanted a clear -cut winner, whether

it was Roman or Stroman, I didn't care. And we,

and people smarter than us, for months and months

at this point, almost said a year, maybe it has

been a full year, but whatever, have been saying,

Ron Stroman's a star. He has everything they

should be looking for. He has all the stuff that

Vince McMahon supposedly loves. uh he he's so

much better on the mic than when he debuted and

everything else so what was wrong with brawn

versus roman they've had great matches in the

past too what i don't get it at all this was

it was a terrible ending it's frankly a stupid

decision it kills whatever I felt great about

this pay -per -view I remembered before this

match started I remember thinking like man this

might be like the best pay -per -view this year

this has been great and they found a way to end

it so badly that it killed whatever enthusiasm

I had for it and then to top it all off by the

way apparently the ending was so quick You know,

they did the whole credits and we faded the black

super fast as soon as the ref called for the

end of the match Apparently the reason they did

it is because the fans started chanting and we

really ticked off. Well, yeah What do you expect?

I don't get it at all I don't understand it.

It's as confusing as the NFL wanting Maroon 5

for the Super Bowl halftime show. So you do all

this, and then there's the other baffling decisions,

right? So say what you want about Bobby Lashley

since he's coming back, but they're paying him

a lot of money and he's a UFC star, the same

as Lesnar, but he's not even on the pay -per

-view. You don't even have Shinsuke, who's the

US champion on the pay -per -view. Demon Finn

Balor is made for a Hell in a Cell match. He's

not on the pay -per -view. Owens isn't on the

pay -per -view to job to somebody, which is apparently

his job now. Just losing. But whatever, he wasn't

there. I mean, what... I don't understand. And

aside from if you consider Braun a bad guy...

And so aside from his group, the three of them,

their next biggest bad guy is probably Elias,

and he's not even on there. So, it's... I would

have been fine with all that if there was an

ending, but the whole point to Hell in a Cell

is there's supposed to be an end to the match,

and no interference, and they ruined it. What

the hell is the point to these anymore then?

It's so bad and I still would have been annoyed

but I think I would have been feeling way better

about this whole thing if Styles and Joe and

an actual finish would have happened but Like

you said Rating the pay -per -view up to the

point, but right before when Brock came out.

It's easily a three or four out of five Yeah,

it's either a four or a four point five out of

five a nine nine point five out of ten Whatever

you want to call it, but with that ending Part

of me just wants to say zero because I hated

it so much now Like I don't enjoy thinking about

it or talking about it It's just frustrating

to me when they take the entire premise of the

pay -per -view and Basically shit all over it.

Yep, pretty much. I It's like It's like if Batman

the animated series in its second episode Made

Batman trip fall on his face and just look like

a dumbass Nobody take it seriously again Yeah,

no, and I'm not sure how much I can take Batman

and comic seriously right now seeing as how they

showed his dick, but anyway That's fine. Everybody

has one. Well, I mean, yeah, you know every male

has one Anyway Yeah, whoops, um, I don't know

what's coming up next on man Mike's folks I do

know at some point like I said over on the pullback

we will be doing boom studios wwe volume three

roman empire well i say until then why don't

we take another look at one of the network shows

that's enjoyable yes we will do that i'm just

saying i don't know when that's happening is

what i'm saying because there's a lot of fun

stuff on there still absolutely yeah i Hell in

a Cell the ending made it worse and then Raw

and both Raw and Smackdown after shows at the

Smackdown was better, but yeah Raw did not impress

me I don't know and So Corbin plays his role

well on Raw, but Did anybody think he was going

to beat Roman in the main event? No. Or that

it wouldn't become a mess of interference, or...

You know, I didn't think it was a... It wasn't

good. No, it wasn't good at all, because here's

the thing. What they've done right now, because

Kurt isn't there, because, let's face it, Stephanie

isn't there, and I understand that Stephanie

has other duties and other... things that she's

doing and that's all well good and fine but because

it's Baron Corbin and they're trying to do what

I believe is the Vince McMahon move like young

Vince like Vince 20 or 30 years ago Vince where

he basically inserts himself into everything

and makes up his own like they're basically trying

to make you know Baron into a newer version of

Vince kind of a thing like obviously Barron's

not gonna have a kiss my ass club or anything

but I hope not that was not one of his bit whatever

I know but he like what I'm saying is like that

the whole ending to raw last week felt like it

was off topic but yeah my point was just yeah

similar to yours it felt like the ending was

to raw was kind of pointless yeah That really

hurt after a pay -per -view where the ending

was pointless Yeah, it might have been okay if

it had been one or the other But the fact they

did both Made it really problematic for me. Yeah,

I don't know what to rate this I honestly think

I probably would have given a three and a half

to a four Up until the end and I was really happy

with it And then we get the end, which frankly

to me was just an insult. Yeah. Up until the

end I would have said this Rivals, whatever other

pay -per -view I said this year was the best

one to this point. I forget which one, like maybe

Summer Slam or Extreme, there was one pay -per

-view episode that we did where I said this pay

-per -view had, like I wouldn't change anything

on this card. I may have... Switched maybe one

match, but that's it. The card from beginning

to end. Last month was really solid. We enjoyed

that and then enjoyed the night after. That was

well done. This was just a load of crap at the

end. Maybe I'm totally wrong on this. I could

very well be. I don't speak with them, but I

don't know how if you're a dude who works there

week in and week out and everything else. you're

not upset with the fact that they keep bringing

back these old stars and these part -timers and

shoving them down everybody's throats and telling

us how awesome and great they were and saying

hey remember this at the expense of the guys

they're trying to build up yeah I don't get it

I don't get it either I really don't I think

it it hurts I mean if if you did a why do i always

use batman probably because it's so easy for

me to whatever if you did a batman show and the

first week was bruce wayne as batman and he's

great but then the next five weeks we're showing

you how much better somebody else is as batman

You get annoyed pretty quick Yeah, it's like

comparing Val Kilmer to George Clooney All right,

yeah that probably works better. I don't know

where I was So Next time around is episode 48

I have no idea what we're gonna do like Ryan

said we'll probably do something from the network

a couple of some things Maybe we'll finish out

Miz and Mrs. The final two episodes and we'll

do something else after that Honestly, after

this pay -per -view and after the Raw and SmackDown,

I honestly want to walk away for a while. The

only thing that has me continually interested

is the Shield versus Braun and his monsters.

That six -man tag team match, that's the only

thing that I'm interested in right now. Currently

that's on WWE besides evolution, which is the

all women's pay -per -view and that's because

it And that's because that feud why and for me,

it's Joe and AJ. Yeah that too And it's because

that feud at least originally though Featured

guys who were actually there and that kind of

thing It felt like it was the only one that everything

was making sense and going well in Now they've

kind of derailed that with the introduction of

Brock to it. The other one is still good at least,

AJ and Joe. But yeah, just, I don't know. And

as for a rating, because I'm going to make you

rate this, because you always make me rate them,

even when I don't want to. God. I don't have

a clue. I'm going to give it a straight three

out of five because it's mainly because of the

ending. That I feel like it's the ending put

the product on a hole is a middle ground thing

and I feel miserable because Everybody's work

up until that point and the and the wrestlers

work in that match too. Yeah was fantastic So

I don't I don't like what a crappy feeling I

have about this Yeah, I don't either. I don't

know what to give it. I think I'm gonna go lower

and just say two out of four. I mean the early

stuff for me though was a solid three and a half

to four. Yeah. Yeah, it's like honestly like

I said outside of one or two things like you

said Joe and AJ and the shield versus Braun and

his monster team kind of thing outside of those

two things like This almost made me walk away

from watching any of it completely, like the

current Raw Smackdown, the pay -per -views, like,

I almost don't want to watch anymore because

of the ending of Hell in a Cell. I just don't

know, too, how, let's say we were in the writer's

room. I don't know how you pitch this and think

it's gonna go over well. It didn't. No, I know,

but that's my point, like, how do you sit in

the writer's room and say, like, alright, here's

our, here's my idea. Yeah, you know, this is

how it's gonna work and I don't know and I don't

know that you know, maybe I'm off but I Feel

like a lot of people feel the same way about

it and are kind of annoyed by it But who knows

I know the ratings dropped spectacularly But

also remember that the Emmys and Monday Night

Football returned on Monday. So I don't know

That's it. Let's watch from right along Yeah,

exactly Right along our table for three or hell

even camp WWE is better at this point Yeah, so

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Mikes when we'll be talking about, who knows?

Something. Spider -Man on PS4. I don't know.

Something fun. Yeah. That's interesting you mentioned

that. I had a video of glitches from that in

the background a while ago. Spider -Man PS4 with

Bonesaw! Bonesaw is ready! We'll catch you next

time, folks. At least the game has an ending.

Hey! It doesn't just keep going. That's true.

No, I meant unlike Hell in a Cell. Spider -Man

doesn't just call it off. Exactly. All right,

we'll catch an experience by dr. Octopus on the

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