WWE 24: Raw 25 Review

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referee, Ryan from Manhattan to go to the Barclays

Center for our Raw 25, the anniversary of the

longest -running episodic show in television

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us into your home. There's nothing else like

it. It's great to be back on Monday Night Raw.

I don't think there's any other form of entertainment

that is out there 52 weeks a year for 25 years.

And to this day, it's probably one of the most

important television series on cable television.

My dad has this saying, one of these days will

be an overnight success. And 25 years is a major

accomplishment. hello and welcome to mayhem mics

this is episode thirty nine yeah let's go with

that i am of course tf2 and mike joining me as

per usual ryan the uneven flow merkely hello

sir hello what a great open where you can't remember

what episode we're at yeah well hell i almost

thought last episode the backlash episode i almost

thought i didn't have it like i almost thought

I know we recorded it because we sat through

that train wreck, but of a pay -per -view, not

the recording. But yeah, I almost thought, I

got so screwed up in the head, and like, wait,

wasn't that supposed to be this or was it, I

don't know. But yeah. Well, speaking of losing

track of what episode, this was episode, or recovering

episode, I don't know, 10 billion or whatever,

of Raw, which is the 25th anniversary show. Boy

they or rather we're covering the WWE 24 behind

the scenes of the 25th anniversary Yeah, it's

like it's funny because it's funny because it

just aired before we started recording by the

way on the network Yeah It's yeah raw like Okay,

so there was raw 1000 which was X number of whatever

ago and then whatever Remember when that was

yeah like raw 1000 like when the hell was that

I don't remember That's not good. So this was

the latest in the WWE 24 series where they kind

of go behind the scenes on something Usually

frequently it's someone or whatever, but in this

case, it's just on the episode of 25th anniversary

for off. And, you know, we open with a segment,

just everybody talking about what a milestone

it is. It is a milestone, though. I mean, 25

years of anything. Yeah. Is 25 years of if you

look at sports. 25 years of a football franchise,

baseball, whatever, is a huge amount of time.

The roster has turned over completely over and

over again since then. It's just, just to keep

going that long. And for RAW, which is a weekly

television series, and I don't, it is scripted,

so. To do a weekly show have a script every week

is astounding. It's amazing to me that they don't

have more stinkers than We already have fun.

Yeah, see that's the thing like after watching

this I feel so guilty for for blaming creative

on everything Last recording how tough it is

to Try to Put together something every single

week and every single month and look at any TV

show And even the best seasons of a show There's

gonna be at least one or two stinkers and they

have the advantage of it's not live. They can

record it They can take six months, you know,

they can take time No, these guys have six days.

Yeah, exactly Wow this um I Feel old now Like

besides already feeling old I feel older at this

point because raw 1000 was longer ago than I

thought it was One thing I liked is they mentioned

the fact that And it's Xbox himself who mentions

it that the razor versus one two three kids segment

Was one of the first kind of noteworthy things

to happen on raw right and it is I would say

that's the earliest moment earliest raw moment

that I remember fairly well and Yeah, that seems

forever ago and obviously they show the first

interview with Razor Ramon on raw Because again,

they talked to Scott Hall behind the scenes on

this as well and who that shirt for example Screams

early 90s that he's wearing in the that original

interview I just got a kick out of seeing that

and some of the man things have changed Yeah,

they've changed a lot so Okay, so they're on

like 1300 episodes at this point for raw. I think

somewhere around there. I think I could be wrong

This is crazy to me like it feels like it was

almost yesterday that raw was celebrating the

1000th episode episode one thousand was july

twenty third of twenty twelve that was a long

as time ago and how long last time ago it was

a daily and cm punk were in this episode you

know uh... yeah but raw twenty five for me in

mind i think my When I first started watching

a rock because I didn't watch it Right away.

I didn't watch it when it first debuted. I was

I Was into wrestling, you know by the time I

was 6 and 1986 to the time I was 10 or 11 and

90 or 91 and I kind of got out of it for a few

years I got back in once I kid you not my junior

and senior year history teacher in high school

Mr. Petzold, I will never forget this guy. He

basically emulated Stone Cold. I mean, basically,

dude shaved his head, wore Stone Cold t -shirts

all the time under his, you know, whatever teacher

suits or whatever he had to wear, sweaters, whatever

the hell, but like... He loves Stone Cold Steve

Austin and As soon as I saw Stone Cold I was

like, okay, I got this. This is cool. This is

great You know, we were all talking about Undertaker

and everything else in the match and whatever

not with Stone Cold But just talking about Undertaker

in general and all the matches that he was doing

back then I mean 25 years of the Undertaker that's

At least on raw that's just nuts It's funny to

me that there's a couple guys that are still

active and Jericho is one although Wasn't on

raw at that point. Yeah wasn't Active was raw

man was Jericho on TV yet. Even at that point.

I don't think so, but in any case No, no, no

one raw debuted when raw debuted He wasn't he

came in like the mid 90s. Like I want to say

97 98 Yeah, we debuted with well he debuted in

in terms of television debuted with ECW, okay?

even before the WCW days, but yeah, I can't remember

when that is because I won't but It's so as as

this episode as the WWE 24 goes on they interviewed

people and they show a lot of the backstage stuff

which is fun to see because I mean you get to

see kind of what I think is sort of a writers

or prep room and I mean one thing you forget

too is man how many people work on these shows

weekly as well yep because just that prep room

is is 20 some odd people and then you've got

you know all the people who set up the ring all

the people setting up the and running the cameras

and for raw 25 they had two prep rooms they had

one at barclays and one at uh manhattan center

so yeah there's there's part of me that watches

this and i realize they would have lost out on

money for obvious reasons because the Manhattan

Center is much smaller and because obviously

if you can have two crowds that's more money

than one but there's a part of me that really

wishes they'd just done the Manhattan Center

maybe and even watching this there's so much

that went into the logistics of trying to run

it at two places that right I don't know I kind

of wish they had just done the the one Yeah,

maybe I don't know I See this is the thing yeah,

you're right it it did kind of you know do a

bunch of stuff with You know having all this

to put together, but Here's the thing We complain

about this often. Oh, how are you gonna have?

At the time it wasn't Cole coach and Corey it

was Cole Corey and Booker T, or whoever How are

you gonna have all of those guys plus? JR and

King that's why I liked having it at two places

because get to see JR and King as a broadcast

team again and Really enjoyed them. I think there

was like one remark you still could have just

replaced them for a couple segments Just sort

of swaps them out would have been the same effect.

Yeah When watching this WWE 24 on raw 25 I almost

Almost did a double take and I was like, who's

that guy? It was Michael Cole. I barely recognized

Michael Cole like hit the way he's talking in

this it's not his announcer talk it's not it

is his voice obviously, but just he his voice

is so low in this thing. I'm like damn Okay,

and I forgot that Vince used to do ring announcing

Oh Yes was the voice like I completely forgot

about that so Vince McMahon wasn't a character

until obviously famously the Montreal screw job

just after that that's when they finally acknowledged

that hey the guy who is a ring announcer is actually

the due to runs the company but yes for ever

he was just the announcer and he was an excellent

announcer he was and i love forgotten about that

i love you very good here in this year i love

his voice i'd i'd completely enjoyed it uh...

the if you think about it this is the uh... very

first original undercover boss. So they intersperse

segments and interviews with the people who worked

on working on raw now with pictures and shots

of them in the past. One of the ones that caught

my eye too was Shane. Seeing him 25 years ago.

Yeah. versus now when we know and we've seen

him on camera because we didn't see him back

then obviously but I just find it interesting

he was around and just seeing shots of him I

like some of the behind -the -scenes stuff with

the McMahon macho man doing crap and stuff like

that too was neat to see That's what I mean like

watching that part of the segment with with Vince

and with macho man And then just kind of talking

to each other trying to figure it out and try

to kind of joke around a little bit I guess And

then Vince goes into his announcer voice. I'm

like oh So Vince was the voice of the WWF at

the time Yeah, and that's something I don't think

people should ever forget or not know because

don't get me wrong Michael Cole's a great guy

You know, I mean, I know a lot of people hate

his announcer character, but trust me There are

worse announcers than Michael Cole in the WWE

right now And they fumble a lot But everybody

now is like oh Michael Cole the the broadcast

correspondent for the WWE the the longest announcer

and he kind of has turned into the longest announcer

in the The biggest voice especially for raw because

I think it's only been very rare occasions that

Cole was on smackdown. I Don't remember Cole

being on smackdown all that much No, yeah, I

can't This isn't a show about smackdown. Come

on. No, I know we try to remember other things

The smackdown 25th anniversary is not for a while

so That's true don't worry about it yet not yet

no um but yeah um and seeing the whole like basically

shades of old to compared to new with the whole

Vince Stone Cold Stunner thing basically that

happened 25 years ago the he stunned Shane he

stuns Vince stun Shane stuns Vince now you know

uh well that didn't happen 25 years ago uh that's

just Footage from other raws the stone -cold

character if I remember correctly didn't exist

for that original raw so one of the things So

one of the few things when they intersperse a

lot of these shots that I didn't really like

is I'm trying to think of a nice way to say this

because I don't want to say anything really negative

on this. So I really like the WWE 24 presentation

and it's 52 minutes on the network and it's definitely

worth people checking out and it's fun. The only

negative I have to say about it is since it's

made by WWE productions and it's really not a

documentary or you know they don't really speak

about the original raw it's a lot of it's from

people's recollections and points of view. those

old RAWs were recorded. Right. They weren't aired

live. And B, partially because of that, when

RAW originally debuted, it didn't make a huge

impact. And part of that is because, well, Nitro,

and Nitro was live. And there's just so when

they when they're airing this it's very much

a it's very much wwe putting a positive light

on it when it first aired on usa network all

those years ago though it was vince randy and

rob barton what the hell's his name brad is rob

bartlett that's it were the announcers But it

didn't make a huge impact. It took a little while.

It was 1993 and none of the characters we would

eventually know as part of the attitude era really

were there. There was one, two, three kids. The

Undertaker was part of the attitude era, so that

counts, sorry. But Brett, Mr. Perfect, Razor.

Et cetera, et cetera. Most of those guys, with

the exception of 123Kid, who would, you know,

become... What the hell did they call... Xbox,

geez. That's what happens when you take a nap

before the show. But anyway, it wasn't until

95, is what I'm getting at, and it became raw

as war. Right. Like that first one didn't necessarily

make a huge splash. And that's the only downer

that WWE kind of paints it like this was this

big event. It was a big deal for them. But they

wouldn't go in live and it wouldn't become what

we know more of, what we remember more as Raw

until a little bit later. And it didn't debut

with those characters. Yeah, the Rocky Maivia

wouldn't debut for another few years, for example.

And the Ringmaster was around first, long before

he became Stone Cold Steve Austin. But they were

getting there with this. And these were the first

steps. And it's still fun to see a lot of that

old footage. I just kind of wish they had timestamped

some of it, just because. The first episode didn't

have a whole lot of noteworthy stuff that has

passed into the annals of Wrestling history Yeah,

but as a whole the show differently did I mean

they show a lot of the moments over the years

that have been ridiculously important in wrestling

in January of 1993 WWE premiered their signature

weekly televised program Monday Night Raw 25

years over 1200 episodes later, it is still going

strong. Monday Night Raw will mark a quarter

century on television. It's the longest running

entertainment series on television period. I

mean, it's a huge statement. Raw has been a major

brand in the entertainment industry for so long.

I say it every week, the longest running weekly

episodic television show in history. Think about

that in history. Beating shows like Gunsmoke

and The Simpsons. It's incredible. It's an incredible

milestone. And I think WWE wanted to make it

special. So you'll be there. Oh, I'll be there.

I will be there. The 25th anniversary was exactly

where it needed to be. New York. As the opening

bell, it is World Wrestling Entertainment celebrating

the 25th anniversary of Monday Night Raw. The

Empire State Building recently lighting up red

to mark the occasion. One, two, three. The show

my father created, you know in the city my grandfather

really started it all. It's pretty remarkable.

I'll see you there. yeah absolutely a lot of

the moments that i'm like oh i remember that

i remember that i remember that one too it's

like uh -huh trip down memory lane everybody

and that's good that's you know celebrating the

25th anniversary of raw and that's the way you

should do it um yeah seeing shane back in those

days i'm like oh yeah um that almost looks like

a curt angle comb over right after he shaved

his head um Because you know Shane's hair back

then was really really wacky But I remember I

don't remember exactly where I was but I remember

being in front of a TV in that moment When Shane

bought ECW or whatever it was an ECW or WCW?

It was WCW. Yeah, that's right Vince McMahon

and finally purchased them and It was the the

simulcast raw and nitro briefly and yeah, that

was 2001. Yeah And that was, I remember I watched

it live at that point. Originally I couldn't

watch Raw live because I lived out in the sticks

in 93, but I would get the sort of weekly shows

later that summed up things. So I saw what was

on Raw back then, but I wasn't able to watch

it until I moved out of the country. Sorry, when

I say out of the country I mean out of the sticks,

into a larger city. in 99 and yeah just 98 actually

whatever anyway the yeah the no so another thing

I really enjoyed on this show was the Miz kind

of bookending Mm -hmm the show and him kind of

half being in character Half out of character

beginning to see his experience because he was

one of the guys who he wrestled at? The Berkeley

Center and then had to go to the Manhattan Center

For an interview not to mention to try to bump

up the star power because the poor Manhattan

Center crowd We talked about this during the

show didn't get a whole lot to do until Yeah

until the men showed up And I think my favorite

part of that was seeing the behind the scenes

of like You know seeing all of that and him being

like oh, I have no time to do this I have no

time to do that They're like oh you need to be

here you need to be here you need to be here

so get there get there get there Yeah, I like

that. I enjoyed that What I loved is once he

actually came out and he was in the ring Puts

his hand up because wait. I don't even need to

say it do I? I love that! Well he tells them,

he has them join in with his put your hand up

bit because yeah the crowd is he's exceptionally

popular at that point with the crowd because

these are the hardcore fans who kind of kind

of get it, you know, know that he's a character

and he's been there forever, so. Yeah. Yeah.

And I mean, you know, Mike is a guy that I have

said this plenty of times in the last three years

that we've been doing this podcast. He's a guy

that, at least in my mind, the first time I ever

knew about him was when he was on the real world

on MTV. there was a big thing of him having one

of the replica belts or whatever saying oh one

of these days I'm gonna be a huge WWE's WWF star

or whatever and look at his career now like you

know he managed to yeah and he's still managing

to he he is essentially you know one of the he's

he should he's not like in the same class as

like Hogan or under the giant or he's in his

own class. He's in like the attitude error type

Not really attitude error, but he came at the

tail end of that but like the early 2000s era

kind of a thing No, he's held down the company

and he's been one of the top Heels bad guys,

whatever you want to say or Seemingly ever though.

Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, you know,

absolutely he has been and like him, hate him,

whatever, they finally figure, like, WWE creative

doesn't have to do anything with him. He knows

his character, he knows what Vince wants for

the show and for the whatever, and he goes out

and he does it and he gets the job done. And

it's just, I absolutely love it, you know. So

yeah behind the scenes on raw 25 like you said

all the all the camera crews all of the Like

actually seeing inside the raw I don't want to

say war room, but basically the control room

for the TV and how that's all done and Which

we've seen I mean, it's it's nothing super special

We've seen TV controls before but it's very rare

that you know someone that tunes into raw weekly

basis for let's say the last two years that isn't

a lifelong fan but wants to start getting into

it this is something special for them because

how would they know that they've never really

shown this kind of stuff and like I mentioned

a couple episodes ago when we talked about 365

Kevin Owens that Vince was there you know behind

the scenes kind of a thing like I know Shane's

back in the company, Shane's back in this, Shane's

back in that. This heavily featured Shane more

than Stephanie, and I'm surprised at that because

Stephanie is the Monday Night Raw woman, Shane

is the SmackDown guy at this point, but the fact

that it's a whole family affair and that Shane

is there behind the scenes with them, Stephanie

is there behind the scenes with them, and obviously

they would be, but I'm really surprised that

Steph wasn't shown more. Well, they're not always

all together. Obviously, this was a big event

where all of them were going to appear on camera.

Steph is out doing a lot of the PR stuff because

this takes place. So a lot of these stuff that's

filmed, you mentioned it's neat seeing the backstage

area. I was going to say it's neat seeing it

when the show... It's being shown before the

show is started and then kind of getting stuff

ready We generally only ever see it when the

show is on when I show those backstage things.

It's just kind of interesting to see that yeah,

these guys have to work the entire time and It's

not just okay Ross starts in 20 minutes. I can

sit down and take my seat here and start working

right but No, no the entire thing like I said,

it's worth watching for anybody fan at any point

and Yeah, just Going back again and kind of thinking

over all of the years of raw One of my favorite

segments one of my favorite raw moments that

doesn't get a shout out or anything on this is

really recent and That was the festival of friendship

And part of the reason it's on my mind is I went

and I found a complete video of the entire thing

and complete with the commercial break and after

commercial. And I showed it to my girlfriend

who she is not into wrestling at all. And she

asked me at one point, you know, why do you why

do you watch it? And I explained some of it,

but I wanted to show her that particular segment,

because in my opinion, it kind of had everything.

It had the over -the -top aspect of it. It had

the scripted aspect. It had the comedy. It had

improv. You know, you had Owens being kind of

the straight man to Jericho's funny man slash

over -the -topness. And it just worked really,

really well. It was funny that after I showed

it to her, she said, okay, I get it now. It's

entertaining and I think anybody who isn't into

wrestling can enjoy that so It's just one of

those things I think of when I watch something

like this that encompasses all of it All of the

different eras that I watched wrestling in And

I just think about okay, which segments do I

remember? Which kind of means something to me

and of the old ones they did show I mentioned

it before I remember the when one two three kid

beat razor Ramon and That was one of the early

wrestling memories. I have from the 90s and stuff

that I Something that I remember and something

that I over the years Remember being a pretty

big deal because that was the first time Xbox

Sean I'm all Waltman whatever you want to call

him was a Big deal because one two three kid

was pretty much just a job guy. He would just

go out and get beat right Yeah, and that was

Vince's whole thing was he wanted you to watch

her on because he never knew what would happen

And that was the first time something Really

important kind of happened on it. So maybe that's

why I remember it so well, obviously I've got

a ton of other ones like first time stone cold

debuted that raw after the huge Face slash heel

swap in the match between he and Brent's and

just I Considered list a ton of different ones

Jericho's debut uh... they did briefly show the

festival of friendship though yeah i did get

a you get a small and that's because um... jericho

was essentially behind the seat that's the thing

jericho wasn't that he was on raw twenty five

but he was behind he was in the backstage area

he specifically says in this that's what he wanted

to do for it because a that's one of that is

one of the coolest things to me outside of the

athleticism outside of the matches outside of

whatever storylines going on in the ring outside

the ring it was always great to see who's gonna

pop up like nowadays don't get me wrong reyong

is a great interviewer or whatever else but you've

got it all set up and good whoever she's gonna

interview whoever charlie caruso's gonna it doesn't

matter which interviewer it is So they try to

make it special when like Roman or whomever it

doesn't necessarily have to be Roman It could

be Seth. It could be Dean. It could be John Cena,

whatever pops in to do the interview Like you

know where the interviewer is standing by themselves

and my guess at this time is and then they pop

in back then in the olden days that was super

special because you just never knew and you never

knew what was going to happen if somebody was

going to interrupt it or whatever and it's one

of the greatest things about Monday Night Raw

and even SmackDown itself is seeing the athletes

walk to the ring from whatever car wherever they

are it doesn't really matter where they start

from and seeing who they pass and who they interact

with because again that's a small behind -the

-scenes thing And that's just really really cool

that they do that so showing more of that here

and having Jericho be the behind -the -scenes

guy for raw 25 I think really really worked Yeah,

I don't know in terms of talking about this one

or this show the WWE 24 on raw 25 just go watch

it. I mean, yeah Say it's 52 minutes. It's definitely

worth fun. Yeah worth seeing and worth the Worth

you'll have fun with it. It's a cool look kind

of behind the scenes and it's neat to see some

people That we haven't seen in quite some time

get to interact with some of the new crowd and

be reminisce about a whole lot of time with Whole

lot of time with the company whole lot of things

that happened with the company over the years

Yeah, absolutely Everyone should go watch this

Because if you're not why are you watching raw

like go see this go look at this and see how

much work is put into this Not to mention the

number of people that's why I always try I try

to real hard When I watch something like backlash

and it's not particularly good Not to be exceptionally

negative because an awful lot of hard work from

an awful lot of incredibly talented skilled people

went into it Nobody sets out to Make it not good

show or an episode of a show or a pay -per -view

or a match or whatever it's just not everything

it happens to all of us i have shifts where i

can't do anything right so it happens to everybody

so and just with the sheer number of people it's

almost amazing it doesn't happen more often yeah

absolutely absolutely Think that's gonna do it

for us short quick to the point folks. It's only

a 52 episode or 52 minute things. Yeah, exactly

Exactly exactly. It's not too long. It's you

know, I will say this one of the things I had

forgotten about and they briefly sort of mentioned

or hint at is the fact that And it's funny because

we talk about this almost every week. I had almost

forgotten that raw was originally two hours Yeah,

I did too. Yeah, it was only 2012 that they became

the three hour Yeah, and I would I will still

and I will pretty much always say too long. Yeah

show that it is now, but Yeah, it's in terms

of the number of people working on it too. There

have to be way more I would think I would think

because of that as well. Yeah Yeah, see it so

throughout this Chronicles be the last thing

I say we can wrap this up throughout this Chronicle

on WWE 24 they show like 11 a .m. 3 p .m. 5 p

.m. It basically takes them obviously a whole

day to set all of this up not just the ring stuff

not just all of that, but the cameras the this

the that everything for a three and a half for

a three -hour show I I remember the two -hour

Raw's it's obviously been six years since they

changed that to three hours, but see here's the

thing I don't watch raw live anymore Have not

watched raw live and since I got a hulu subscription

now that I have hulu and they have a deal with

hulu that they put raw and Smackdown on hulu

and they don't put it on the network like would

I still watch raw if it was on the network for

three hours probably but hulu they put it on

for like an hour and 30 or 40 minutes out of

the three hours and they basically put you know

the biggest parts of each week's episode they

they put a full show on like it was but i'm sure

they've cut out middle sections and things like

that uh... i'll have to one of these days i'll

have to show you how raw works on on hulu because

you know hulu in canada just blood and water

and oil and water and all that i've tried to

watch raw I try to watch it live. I usually watch

a good portion of it, but I frequently tap out

before the end just because it ends at 11 o 'clock.

I got to be up for whenever the next morning,

usually fairly early. And the annoying thing

is here in Canada and I'm sure some of our other

International listeners have similar issues Once

it's off air. I can't there's no legal way to

watch the stuff. I miss Great, which is really

annoying. That's where the network at least internationally

should step in You know, they should be allowed

to show raw on the network for countries that

don't have an airing uh don't have a company

that airs it afterwards there we go but for some

reason they do not so blah they should really

get on that yes they really should Okay, side

nothing to do with wrestling, but somebody just

did a meme and compared Joel Olsteen to the Joker.

Oh my god anyway Sorry, yeah Yeah, I don't know

about watching it league, you know like like

I said Hulu is great like Because it's so easy

and it's it's just so fun. It's it's great only

having to spend an hour and a half or so on the

program obviously smackdowns two hours smackdown

gets full full coverage uh... but they were they

present monday night raw on hulu as if nothing

was missing there are things that you've said

to me in the past couple weeks, couple months,

whatever oh did you see this part on raw on hulu

and i'm like no i wasn't there but it wasn't

like it got It wasn't like a really, really bad

jump cut or a really, really fast jump cut where

it's like something is missing. It's a full show.

It just doesn't have all three hours of it, which

is great. Because three hours, like you said,

too long, especially for a weekly show. No. All

right. Episode 40 of the show, who knows what's

gonna happen. We could do a Superstar Spotlight.

We could do something else. I don't know. The

two episodes I had planned for episode 40 and

41 are not actually out on the network yet. They

were going to be 365 AJ Styles and then WWE 24

on Ronda Rousey, but those have not been published

yet on the network. So we're gonna move some

things around for next time. Who knows? Obviously

we get Money in the Bank coming later. Yeah,

usually one of the more entertaining reviews

because trainwreck or not generally the money

in the bank Matches at the very least are extremely

good. Yeah Absolutely. So now you remember the

last time we had really bad money in the bank

matches last year No, I don't remember them being

that bad with okay. So I hated the finish of

the women's where that's what i said specifically

what i meant was the finish of the women's life

but it doesn't mean this stuff leading up to

it they didn't do a good job especially right

from sever match and then the men's that was

terrific and this year i think the tell a really

fun story because he got guys like brawn in its

and will see you know what what they decide to

do with roman not in it Bronze already in Finn

is already in who is an insanely talented performer.

So you've already got two guys that if I were

choosing who I want to see in a ladder match

would be two of my top choices. I suspect, you

know, we'll see what they do with AJ or Shinsuke.

They'll probably end up fighting each other.

So unfortunately they won't be. Stop. no more

ajay and shinsuke no no no that's done jesus

christ wwe i disagree i think they can still

they have to salvage it with an actual decent

match with a finish though yeah and they can

finally do that and then get away with it but

they should have yeah they should have done it

a while ago instead of just constantly giving

us non finishes yeah because nobody likes those

anyway The last thing I'll say about Raw 25 behind

the scenes on WWE 24, funniest thing was AJ trying

to be Hulk coming up to Mean Gene. Yeah, well,

you know, Mean Gene. I love that. I friggin'

love that. That was hilarious. Yeah, it's gonna

be fun. It was entertaining to see the current

superstars get to interact with the people who

they grew up watching. And there's a sense of

fun and everything else surrounding this that

really makes this, whatever you want to call

it, behind the scenes, documentary, whatever,

makes it work. Yeah, absolutely. All right, where

can the people find you on Twitter, sir? Online,

whatever Twitter thing. At Nightbeat on Twitter,

which you already said. Which I said, yes. And

I am of course at TFU and Mike on Twitter. You

can follow at GeekCastRadio and at This Week

in Geek as well. Join us next time for whatever

we'll be doing. I gotta come up with some sort

of plan, folks. I mean, it's not like Bobby Heenan

is gonna come running in here and screw things

up. since you and I have been in the ring together.

And a lot of things have changed. You look great,

but obviously Mother Nature has not been too

kind to me. I'm a member of AARP now. I have

heart problems. I've got this murmur that just

won't seem to go away. I've got arthritis and

my bones are really brittle. I live in a retirement

community now. I'm trying to say, Steve, times

have changed. I'm now a senior citizen. But I'm

a senior citizen, but Shane changed it his prime.

Now, James and his prime guy, he looks so good.

Look at him. My God, he flies off from one side

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