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What If Killmonger Rescued Tony Stark

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We'll just go with that and see what happens
from here. Yeah, it's been one of those weeks
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signs. No, throw it up. I'm kidding. Yeah, peace.
I love peace. I'd be out of a job with peace.
And it's all about what if Iron Man never happened?
Well, in a way, it's still like Iron Man happened,
but it was Iron Men. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the official
title for this is What If Killmonger Rescued
Tony Stark? And, wow. What a dark, um... A dark
turn this kind of took. Yeah, you're just like,
oh, oh, we're gonna have a nice redemption and
Killmonger's gonna be a no. No. No. And in a
way, honestly, I'm... Still kind of glad they
went this way because it's staying true to his
character and the core of why he became a soldier
and why he You know what his purpose was even
in the Black Panther movie. He still had that
that goal There's a part of me that wished that
he could have used his his new allies and connections
in a way better to not let his need for revenge
for his father's death make him lose part of
that ability to help his brothers and sisters
using Stark tech as opposed to making it still
be about revenge on Wakanda. Was a spectacular
entrance, seriously. The ten rings have reinforcements
en route. We need to move now. Fine by me, Lieutenant...
...Killmonker? What is that, German? A nickname.
That's clearly a good fit. I see where they got
it. Uh, what's your afternoon like? Yeah, and
wow. Just... Just wow. It's... I haven't seen,
I haven't actively watched Iron Man since, I
want to say two or three years ago. And man,
if only Obadiah was dealt with that swiftly in
the actual movie, not that that would ever happen.
I do love what the watcher says throughout this
about how heroes are this and that and whatever
and I do love his overall narration of this story.
I think that was really well done. Without Tony
Stark's fateful capture in Afghanistan, the age
of Iron Man would never come to pass. Though
the man was saved, a hero was lost, and a villain...
Yeah, it's the whole idea that heroes never truly
die. They live on in those who they inspire.
Mm -hmm. And I think that was good for this episode
considering that, um... T 'Challa was killed
by a Killmonger or it was made to look like,
uh, you know. It was made to look like Roadie
did. Yeah. Which, that kind of... At that point,
that's kind of when I realized that this is going
to be... Killmonger was not on a good path. Because
I could see maybe the revenge still for killing...
T 'Challa being, you know, that eye for an eye
with, you know, the king T 'Chaka having killed
his father. Yep. But then he turned on Rhodey.
And at that point, it almost came to being like
that he is willing to actually sacrifice some
of his own people. To be able to gain the power
he feels he needs to help them yeah, and Honestly,
I am NOT the person who can speak on this because
I am not a I am NOT a black person. So that is
not sorry I can really go deep into same here.
Yeah into that I would love to You know hear
people if they want to comment on it about How
that aspect of the story touched them? You know,
you know in ways that I don't have the perspective
to know Right. Yeah, absolutely Yeah, and I had
kind of because it again it's been a while since
I've seen some of the movies I forgot it was
Michael B Jordan as Killmonger Yeah, I really
really did and then his voice and I'm like hey,
what's um What's Johnny storm from fantastic
for going here The same reason that Johnny storm
also was carrying a a Shield and wearing a flag,
you know, that's true. Yep I mean apparently
Johnny Storms are really popular in the MCU Yes,
yes, they are Man they got almost like like like
we've said about the cast before in each of these
episodes They've gotten almost everybody back
but The ones that they got to replace or take
the place whatever yet I don't want to sit here
and say they've replaced them, but they kind
of have and I understand like Tony Stark I get
it Robert Downey jr. Wants to go do other things
and he whatever that is what it is, but Cheetal's
back Leslie bibb is back as Christine Everhart
what surprised me was Beth Hoyt as pepper and
I thought she did a really good job Yeah, I mean
the voice for for pepper is spot -on for a minute.
I thought it was Gwyneth Paltrow. Yeah And I'm
just kind of going through Beth's she hasn't
she's gotten some stuff but she's fairly Fairly
new she's been in One episode of better call
Saul and there's some a bunch of other stuff.
She's been acting since about 2006 so Again animation
good I was gonna say well the gentleman that
they got to play Steve Rogers is also the person
who did the voice for Shiro in In a the Voltron
legendary defender. That would be Mr. Josh Keaton.
Oh, yeah. And then, if I am not mistaken, and
I'm trying to look it up right now. Okay, so
the gentleman who plays Tony, Mick Wingert, he
also played Iron Man in the Guardians of the
Galaxy TV cartoon series. Uh, and he was also
Tony Stark in the Avengers assemble animated
series, which is why his, which is why my ear
keeps hitting on him as being a authentic, um,
Tony voice. Yeah. He was very authentic to our
DJ and it was very, very cool. The one thing
that throws me off with this show is when they
actually show the watcher. Yeah. Just his character
design, just the way, you know, and I guess it
shouldn't throw me off because I'm a huge Funko
Pop nerd and his head looks like it's three times
bigger than his actual body. Like in this specific
episode, when we see him, I'm like, holy crap,
dude. Um, you sure you don't need brain surgery?
Cause it looks like you've got a lot of water
on the brain or something. Cause it just, again,
it's nothing that's going to make me dislike
this episode. It's just one of those things where
I love the way they put him in the background
or they use him as like the galaxy kind of thing
where it's his silhouette kind of thing. Yep.
I don't know. But yeah, I mean good now I was
just gonna say apparently he also played Iron
Man in the spider -man cartoon series from 2017
to 2020. Oh, yeah Yep, absolutely I need to go
back and watch that or finish watching it We
had John Favreau is happy obviously that was
supposed to be my promotion Oh Happy Yeah, you
are such you are such a Hogan happy. Oh Man I
just overall really enjoyed this I I kind of
saw The the whole thing with killmonger coming
not really but I just by the time Roadie couldn't
get him on comms. I'm like, oh He's sneaking
stuff. He's doing stuff. He's not supposed to
he's not on your side Rudy There's something
wrong and then the next thing you know something
goes wrong Yep Yeah, it's kind of like our prior
knowledge of who Killmonger is You know makes
us not surprised When you know he betrays people
But at the same time, you're just like, but come
on, you can be better, be better. And the layers
of manipulation. I mean, you see the same layers
in Black Panther, but it feels like it's like
doubled down in how well, you know, he has planned
this from, you know, betrayal to betrayal that
you don't know if he's Kind of, you know, some
of it is kind of going off the cuff or some of
it is like, he has studied like Tony and the
military so well that he knows how every single
person will react. Yeah, absolutely. And it's
one of those things where he's not just playing
the sides against each other. He is playing.
every single angle that he can because he stays
one step ahead of everybody. Yeah. When they
were doing the press conference and Obadiah was
like, okay, that's enough for tonight. And Eric's
like, yeah, but when I did the research and I
found out that, you know, Tony, you know, the
whole thing over there was all signed off by
Obadiah. all the receipt. It's kind of like Tony
coming into, yeah, it's Iron Man 2, because yeah,
when he goes into the Hammer Suite, when he goes
into the Hammer Conference, and he's like, here
you go, Justin, I'm just going to take over your
entire video screen. And this is what Hammer
Industries is working on. And this is like -
Oh, that was the military hearings. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. That's what this reminded me of when Killmonger
was like, here's all the receipts, I put all
the info online, you can Google it right now.
I'm like, oh boy, this guy is yikes. Yep, and
speaking of Justin Hammer, the AI automated drones,
they looked very similar to the ones from Iron
Man 2 that Vanco and Hammer made. Yep, they did.
They absolutely did. What else about this one?
Um, all right, so the moment in the in the afterlife
with Titala, um, I felt that that was beautiful.
Yeah. Um, especially because, um, gosh, what
is the line? He, um... He talks about how, um...
Oh, Christ. I'm gonna... I'll probably put it
right here or something. I know what you're talking
about. Yes. Insert that conversation here. Who
was it that wet it? My cousin. Yeah. I did what
I had to do. For what? A throne? For vengeance,
for my father, and for all my brothers and sisters
who suffered through oppression while you just
sat back and watched. You believe the cure for
human suffering is more suffering? The cure is
power, and now I have it. Because you stole it,
power and end can be a very volatile force, cousin.
It will get the best of you eventually, on your
plane or on ours. though it's the one about humans
ending human suffrage with more suffering. Yep.
And, and I'm just like, that seems to be all
that we ever do. It's like, it's like everybody
believes that that's the way to end suffering
is by, you know, fighting people to end it, but
no one thinks of the people who are suffering.
Yeah, that's one of the things that I absolutely
loved about this was that moment with T 'Challa.
And the moment in the beginning with Tony and
Killmonger, where Killmonger was like, what is
it your dad used to say? Always have a bigger
stick than the other guy. And Tony's like, yeah,
that didn't work out so well for dad, and I did
it. And I wish we didn't have to do any of this.
I love that they wrote that. As Tony's character,
you know again changing the fact that he never
got injured. He never had the shrapnel. He never
made The the arc reactor he never made Iron Man
is not even a factor. No, he had the arc reactor
No, no, no, he had the arc reactor, but he didn't
miniaturize it like, you know what I mean? Because
of the shrapnel and all you know all that so
Yes, the arc reactor was still a thing, but it
never came into play with him taking it, modifying
it, and saving himself because he didn't have
to because Eric came in and threw the missile
into the sky. Yep. Just, oh man, he's... I'm
not sure like I've seen some people that and
and that's fine as I said last episode I think
I've said every episode we've done one of these
if people aren't interested in this cartoon series
that's fine. You know what that's their prerogative
but this is not a bad. Like we've said there
are certain things we don't like but usually
we end up finding more positive things that we
do like about each episode because again these
are stories that. Are what ifs these are stories
that are in other realities other than the main
MCU and because it's tough if they had done this
series with just trying to adapt the comics and
Not tied it into MCU stuff. I don't think it
would have the same At least for me it wouldn't
have the same effect because again as I've said
I've never read the what -if comics Yeah, well,
and it's the same as like how they're doing now
You know, with the Hawkeye series, which, oh
my god, that trailer. We will talk about that
later. Yes. But how, you know, Fraction's comics
won't match with the MCU Hawkeye just straight
out without any, you know... A little bit of
deviation, yeah. Right. So... What's good is
that in here, you know, we're seeing those deviations
by taking sometimes stories that might have been
in the comics, but blending them with the MCU
past instead of the comic past, which, like you
said, to make it more accessible to people who
only access Marvel through visual media as opposed
to, you know, comic media. I mean technically
comics are a visual media, but yeah, I mean it
you know it is but it's it's you know you read
them you you know it bubbles with the words exactly
and Sometimes there are bubbles with no words,
and you just have to infer everything And then
there's bubbles that are the dogs point of view
and you know it's just a bunch of lines That
issue won an Eisner award Yes, yes it did Pizza
dog, oh lord. Oh, lucky. Oh, that's crazy. But
yes, Season 1, Episode 6 of Marvel's What If
on Disney+. They just... They just keep pulling
at the heartstrings, man. They do, and they are
really good at... at the layers, just like the
layers of that story. Yeah. And it's like, at
one point, I'm waiting for when Killmonger is
kneeling and before T 'Chaka says that he'll
be the Black Panther, I'm waiting for Killmonger
to pull a knife and to stab the king. And instead,
he gets a different kind of power, so he decides
not to, I hope. And I'm sitting here and I'm
like... Because you know, he also knows how to
make all those robots He has all the scrap rope
vibranium Yep, and you know claw has a bunch
of those Because oh, yeah, I mean even though
claw was killed his people have them. Oh Absolutely,
they do. Yeah, and the fact Harry still has the
plans true and the fact that All of the moves
of the robots are based on Killmonger's moves.
I mean, I don't want to compare it to this, but
I'm going to anyway because it was awesome seeing
Wolverine in a certain other film. This was basically
with Killmonger specifically, him tying the moves
for the robot to his own style. It's basically
like Hugh Jackman in Real Steel. Yeah. It is.
You know, it's it's so fun and it's so cool and
I I Know these are supposed to be one -off stories
and they're supposed to be leaving us wanting
more Well every up they are one -offs, but they're
also gonna combine towards the end true, right?
I know that I'm just saying that Every time we
get to the end of each episode, I'm like, but
I want more. Just give me five more minutes of
whatever. Like, I think the Dr. Strange episode
was the only one where I was like, holy crap.
Well, that's that universe then, isn't it? Everything
else I'm like, I need at least five to 10 more
minutes where we get some sort of nice little
bow wrapped around it. I mean, honestly, as I
think I've said every episode, that each episode
of these could be its own movie. Absolutely.
No, no doubt about it. Absolutely it could. And
wow. And I think that's why it's also so intense.
is because they are putting almost a whole movie's
worth of plot and character arcs that they then
have to condense it from what would normally
be, for a superhero movie, be about a 120 page
script down to about 30 pages for what is typically
30 to 45, which is typically for a half hour
show. Yeah, so so yeah, you know that's Basically,
it's like one page would be doing like one minute
would be doing um like Like six minutes worth
of work in a way Absolutely, yeah Again, it's
just so So good and again the music but literally
as as we're recording this i had just found.
That the sixth episode score is at least i'm
sure it's everywhere folks but i use spotify
so it's on it's on spotify and since the last
episode we recorded released i have. created
a whole playlist of the entire first season.
Basically, I just add each album as the episodes
come out, so they just show in order of what
the album order is, as far as the tracks go.
And you are totally going to link that in the
show notes. Oh, of course. Always. Totally. Yeah.
I might even embed it so people can just see
the dang thing. But yeah, I mean, when we do
the next episode for next week, I may have to
do like, oh, by the way, here's a little housekeeping.
I've now listened to the music outside of this
episode six. And it's like, holy crap. Wow. So
good. Yeah. Absolutely. And all I know is that
they've got Looking here at IMDb The pictures
they got for like episode 1 9 is all the Avengers
together Yep, and then episode 1 8 is the one
that happens up in I keep wanting to say the
devil's anus and that's where it is, but it's
not the name of the planet Wow Alrighty then
folks. I think we've good night everybody Yeah,
I know By the way, they they have they have Jeff
Goldblum's character in there But one seven doesn't
have anything still left in here at all. Yeah,
not yet. It doesn't Here's the thing. We haven't
seen yet on the We have yet to see The Captain
Marvel one? Because Captain Marvel is supposed
to have one. We have not seen yet this supposed
to be an amazing one of Natasha on a motorcycle
with the shield. I want to say, and I could be
wrong, I want to say that's 1 -7. The only thing
is I don't know if it actually is because I'm
on the Wikipedia, not the IMDB page of episode
seven. I see Tony. I see your buddy, Clint. I
see, I see Okoy or however, I'm sorry. Okoya.
Okoya. I see Josh as Steve Rogers. I see Sebastian
Stan as Bucky. I see Chadwick as T 'Challa and
obviously Jeffrey Wright. This is the first of
the merge then. Yeah, kind of. Yeah. Then one
eight the only cast they have listed is Jeffrey,
which is obviously Jeffrey Wright is the watcher.
Yeah So and then obviously one nine is the final?
final episode So yeah I absolutely loved episode
six and I don't even have anything. There wasn't
anything, again, like you said last week, these
episodes are really hard to criticize because
we're enjoying them so much and they are different
tales of what we already know actually to happen.
Yep. You know, it's like the Watcher says, you
change one little event, one little thing. One
little moment and you're in a whole new universe
and I just love that. I am so glad that number
one, they got Jeffrey right. Number two, that
he wanted to do the job because I can't see anybody
else voicing the narration for this animated
series. Yeah, Bethany has a little bit of a hard
time though because he plays Bernard in Westworld.
She's like one of the authorities on Westworld
in Dragon Con fandom circles. So it's like she
has a hard time. She's just like, oh, no, it's
the Watcher, not Bernard. It's the Watcher, not
Bernard. Oh, it's so funny. All right, folks.
What would you rate episode six of season one
of Marvel's what if zero to five? Honestly, I
have to give this one a five. It's not my favorite,
but it is very good. Yeah, it is very, very good.
You know, when we get to the point of episode
nine, probably in that podcast episode, we're
going to have to do like our top nine. and just
order them least favorite to most favorite kind
of thing because these stories, holy crap. Yeah.
So good. I am also going to give it a five. Again,
animation is top notch. The characters, the choices
that are being made, everything is just so well
done. Also, can I say one thing? Shuri and Pepper
at the end. Yes, that's why I wanted to see more
of this. Yes, but here's the thing. When they
recovered the footage with Shuri saying that
she's also a genius, which yes, totally true,
but it also reminded me that in Age of Ultron,
Jarvis has a protocol that if he's being attacked,
that he scatters his data and that's why he was
still trying to keep Ultron from getting the
code numbers because these were part of his protocols.
I would not be surprised if Shuri managed to
pull Jarvis back. That would be cool. That would
be absolutely awesome. Alright folks, we're going
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are back and we've kind of loved all over Killmonger
and his journey in Marvel What If Season 1 Episode
6. We've kind of talked about episode seven,
eight and nine. No, not Star Wars, folks. And
now we are because I can literally just I can
hear both Allison and even though Bethany is
not here, I can hear both of them squealing in
my ear after watching the Hawkeye series on Disney
Plus trailer coming November 24th. All right.
So. When you the first time you saw it, What
was your reaction? Incoherent screaming and squealing.
I figured as much. But yeah, no, I walked away
with a couple questions, a lot of happy and a
few like, hmm, I see where we're going here.
I see what we're pulling from, from comics. And
yeah, a lot of Happy. And not Happy Hogan, just,
you know, Happy. Yeah, I don't think Happy Hogan
is going to be showing up here. Well, you never
know. I mean, yeah, you never know. It could
happen, but I don't think Hawkeye is aiming for
Happy's job at this point. No, no, no, he's not.
I mean, after all, he did kind of zombify Happy
recently, so. But man, oh man, it was like, I
don't know, six a .m. or seven a .m. the morning
it premiered. I had seen Jeremy Renner's, one
of Jeremy Renner's stories on Instagram or something,
and I'm like, ooh, it's out? Because the story
was like from nine hours before. He's like, tomorrow,
the Hawkeye trailer. I'm like, oh. Okay, well,
it's tomorrow already. I'm like immediately going
to either the Disney Plus page or the or the
Marvel Entertainment YouTube channel and I'm
like, ooh Hawkeye, this is gonna be interesting
and awesome and really really cool and this is
coming from somebody like I literally do not
I I remember recording our Over on the pullback
episode where they say episode was episode 2019
I forget whatever episode it was that we recorded
the Hawkeye volumes one and two the fraction
run back then I just did not I didn't get it
I thought it was just Hawkeye's day off and it
was but it was obvious obviously more than that
kind of thing and I just was not into it so I'm
gonna have to try to get back into it to get
ready for this series because that's what this
series is kind of based off of and I gotta say,
just seeing the series and seeing Kate and seeing
Clint and everybody that's supposed to be here,
man, and the faces he made in that trailer, any
of them, all of them, like, holy crap, dude,
they really let you come out of your, not come
out of his shell, but basically, they basically
told you, you know, go for the gusto. Yeah, and
that's I think one of the things one of the things
that I'm really happy for because Clint or the
movies for the most part has been a very straightly
serious character and anyone who reads Hawkeye
in the comics know that that is the Clint Barton
is yeah, no and so I was wondering how the translation
was going to go of taking Fraction's comics and
their world and moving it into the MCU. And the
faces that Jeremy makes Especially my favorite
the the oops face at the you know, if he's got
any more danger errors danger more dangerous
than the exploding arrow Yeah That right there
that sold it to me that told me that they are
actually going to let Comedy come into this series.
It may not be heavy comedy But there will be
that connection between Kate and Clint That is
basically almost a buddy cop show. Yeah. And
I think that's awesome. Yes. And I am so down
for it. I'm so excited to see it. Um, I mean,
I mean, hell, he was freaking after falling.
He was treating his bruises with pina colada
mix. Mean these are the things that they honestly
should have had with Hawkeye since the very beginning
I mean he did have We saw parts of it, you know
when he's with Natasha. We see a lot of it when
he's with Natasha Yeah, we really saw a lot of
his his sarcasm and snark in Civil War. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's where we really started to see what
What I see as a Hawkeye, you know endgame was
way too serious, but that was a serious movie
So I'm glad we're getting we're getting back
to the light -hearted Character that he is supposed
to be even though he is going to be facing a
lot of his demons in here. Oh Yeah Yeah, it's
gonna be so fun and I cannot wait Yeah, I'm actually
moving things around in the pull bag for us to
at least At least review the first volume of
the fraction series. So that way before and before
the actual television, before the live action
series starts on Disney plus in November, we
can kind of not necessarily compare them, but
kind of like, cause again, I don't even, I remember
recording the episode, but I barely remember
reading volumes one and two. So. Is this the
point that we should, we should, we should share
with our listeners what I'm plotting? Yes, yes,
we should. So, um, um, um, the, the, the GeekCast
network, right? GeekCast radio network. GeekCast
radio network has, uh, has, has allowed me to
have some fun. And starting somewhere in October,
because I want to give some good lead time before
the show starts, I am going to be starting a
Hawkeye podcast, which is podcast that I lead.
Yep. It's going to be a sub series of Studio
2009, which is our studio 2009 is our new show
that we debuted a couple of year ago to, how
old was that show? I don't even remember now,
I gotta look. Anyway, Studio 2009 is the new
show that Steve Megatron and I started where
I said, let's talk about anything and everything
in the audio and visual medium. So music, podcasts,
movie reviews, TV reviews, that kind of, you
know, we've done, we have, we have this whole
video game series called Video Games We Love.
And we also do other things as well. We debuted
it. Oh, it's only been a year. Wow. Being here
this June, we debuted it June 2nd of last year.
So yeah, it's going to be a sub -series of Studio
2009 and however many episodes we need to do
with it, I guess. And, you know, it's going to
be awesome. Go check out Studio 2009. Like I
said, at least on my end, I want us to at least
do at least the first volume of the Fraction
series inside the pull bag, and it's gonna be
so fun. Oh yeah, I am planning on not only looking
at the volumes of that, I'm also planning to
pull out the stuff with Kate Bishop's origin
story. um you know and uh also maybe seeing if
i can get some of the comic writers who have
written Hawkeye in the past and talking about
you know their relationship with the character
so oh man if we could get Fraction that would
be awesome yeah that's going to be the hard one
because i actually don't have any contact info
with him but i'm going to try Um, but I do have
a couple other people I can poke at. So very
cool. Very cool. But yeah. And so I'm thinking
of titling it. Uh, so you want to be a Hawkeye,
you know? Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. That's awesome.
But yeah. And then I figure, you know, leading
in to the episodes, being able to make sure that
the listeners kind of know some of what they
may be pulling from so that they can find and
be able to relate to things and not think like
where the heck is this coming from kind of deal.
And then obviously, you know, recap, recapping,
reviewing the episodes as they air. And then,
you know, maybe depending on if it's going to
be a secondary season or if it's just a straight
One season that and done one. Um, I was thinking
we can always continue off and talking about
more of his comics, you know, and, and such.
Absolutely. Yeah. Depends on if we get, you know,
listeners and I have a couple people, like I
said, who, who I know will love it and will want
to support. So fingers crossed that it goes well.
Absolutely, absolutely. So when is the, because
as of this recording, it's not out yet. When
is the Dragon Con recap episode coming? It should
be coming out sometime soon. I know that Michael's
been Not feeling all that hot, I believe. Yeah,
I think I saw something about that. And that's
fine. I, you know, I don't know. I mean, as a
podcaster that works as hard as Bailey does,
especially with him having his day job and everything
that's going on in his life, I, you know, life
comes before podcasting. I've said that for 13
years and you know. Yeah, I mean we've recorded
it we have recorded it and And Whether or not
he's gonna get it up right away or not, I don't
know I do know that after we do the recap We
are going to start Maybe heading to a different
CW Superman show and doing some, you know, something
with that. And, uh, let me guess you're going
to need, you're going to need someone to save
me, right? Yeah, probably. Especially since,
you know, I, uh, I found at the, uh, half price
books, I found Uh, the first six seasons for
like six bucks each. Yup. So seasons one through
six might be in my house right now. Just don't
put anybody up as a, as a Clark Crow, please.
We don't need that. I don't even know the reference
of what you're talking about. Clark Crow, Scarecrow,
when they hoisted him up in the, wasn't it the
pilot episode? He was. Really? It has been a
very long time since I have seen Smallville.
I mean, like... 20 years since it debuted. Well,
yeah, and I probably watched it... Oh, gosh.
When did Jensen Ackle... when Supernatural started
in 05? So I probably watched it in the library
in 2010 because I think it was when Supernatural
was getting weird. I supplemented with taking
Smallville out at the library, you know, season
by season. And I only got through season five
there. So man, we are really coming up on its
20th anniversary Yeah, according to this pilot
trailer October 16th of 2001 is when the show
launched Yep, which is why I I said we're gonna
That's awesome which I am always fine for you
know revisiting series that I haven't seen in
a long time because half the time it's like you're
seeing it again. And you just absolutely. And
then of course, you know, I get to, I get to
see young Michael Rosenbaum as fluffy Lex and
that always makes me happy. I call him that to
his face. He probably doesn't remember me, but
I do call him that to his face. Didn't you see
him at Dragon Con? I never actually got to go
over to see him Every time I was in the Walk
of Fame. He was not there. Oh So the only ones
I got to actually go up and talk to that I wanted
to see was Felicia Day and Tyler Everything else,
you know, I wanted to see Anthony rap and I wanted
to see Michael and they just never were in there
when I was in there Hmm Weird I was also kind
of sad because Michael had his He had actual
physical copies of his new band's album Sunspin
Is the band name and I wanted to you know, I
had been bugging him back in gosh before left
on Laurel to have CDs made to bring the convention
so I could buy them. So I was really upset that
I wasn't able to buy it. But it's not like he's
not there every year. So true. So I will just
bug him next year. Maybe he'll even have a new
album at that point. You know, like, there you
go. Awesome. Awesome. Very cool. Very cool. Alright
folks, I think that's gonna do it for us. We've
talked about what if, we've talked about Hawkeye,
we've talked about Smallville. Man, I feel old.
Oh boy. You and me both. How old were you when
Smallville came out? I was 21 at the time. Senior
in college? No, wait. No, I was just, uh, just
out of... I graduated at 19. Yeah, I wasn't even
in college really. I was going into the workforce
at that point because I had already tried college
like twice and it just didn't. Sometimes it doesn't
click with people and you just can't do it. It
can't focus. I was in the workforce by then.
Yeah. 2001, I was already at a college for over
a year at that point. I was 22 at that point.
Yeah, I graduated when I was 79. So yeah, I'm
a 1979 birth. Yeah, no, I feel oh my gosh. So
just randomly off topic. I'm teaching her parbole
to my students today. And they were talking about
like they were giving different different examples
and one of the examples in the video I put up
was I would die without the internet and the
the the narrators like but then I started thinking
you know would you really die without the internet
what was life like before the internet and one
of the kids was like There was a time before
the internet. I'm like, no, you are not allowed
to make me feel old today. It's Friday. Yeah.
I'm like, yes, the internet did not exist. You
will see this in your social studies classes
if you pay attention. Yeah. It's so crazy life
before the internet, man. Like I. So crazy so
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