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Hulu’s Animaniacs Reboot

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About this Episode

TFG1Mike, Steve Megatron, and Doug Abel from Talkin' Bout My Generation discuss Hulu's Animaniacs reboot across all 13 episodes. They explore what worked—the returning voice actors and new animation style—and what fell short: the lack of supporting characters from the original show, reliance on dated political humor, inconsistent animation styles, and writing that tries too hard rather than capturing the original's wit. The hosts compare their viewing experiences and rate the series using the GCRN Universal Rating Scale.

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am I to do? Good rain here. I like listening

to Tooncast while trying to take over the world.

Hello, fellow geeks out there. It's that time

again to listen to a podcast from the Geekcast

Radio Network. Helen, this species of cartoon

has been extinct since 1998. I mean, these haven't

been seen on TV since the golden era of animation.

And... What? No! It's... It's the Warner Brothers.

And the Warner Sisters! Yeah. Oh, yeah. He did

it. That crazy son of a gun actually did it.

Clean vectored outlines. Widescreen format. These

don't look like reruns. Well, they're not. I

reanimated them. We are going to make a fortune

with this show. How zany are they? To the max.

Boingy, boingy, boingy, boingy. Where are they

going? Home. Welcome to Animaniacs. Hello and

welcome to ToonCast here on the GeekCast Radio

Network. I'm, of course, TF2 and Mike. And it

has been one year and four months since Optimus

Solo and I recorded episode 230 of this podcast.

Where we introduce the Aftertoons era. And you

can go back and listen to all that for all that

information that's going to be coming up eventually

here on ToonCast. But I am not alone. I am joined,

as always, by Steve Megatron. Hello, sir. Yo.

Yo. And returning from his self -podcast exile,

making a grand entrance, is Thaddeus Plotz. Ha

ha ha ha. No, it is Doug Abel from Talking About

My Generation. Hello, sir. How the hell have

you been? I've fallen off the face of the earth

and decided to come back. COVID hasn't killed

me yet, so I'm still around. That's good. Everybody

stay inside, everybody. Unless you have to leave

your house, do not. You need to stay safe. I've

known at least... I can count at least 10 people

right now that I have known that have either

gotten it or gotten over it. I don't know. Luckily,

fingers crossed, I don't know anyone personally

that's died from it. But please, everybody, take

precautions. Be safe for yourself and for everyone

else around you. Suspicious. Getting the test

done. I'll tell you that. Touch your brain. It

feels like. At any rate. At any rate, speaking

of the brain, we are here tonight to talk about

Hulu's Animaniacs reboot. Dun, dun, dun. Yes.

I was dun, dun, dun when I got done. This is

supposed to get two seasons, I think. Is that

right? Is that what I heard? Two. They greenlit

two. Okay. And they are going to be doing the

same with Tiny Toon University. Yeah. But Animaniacs,

we are coming from sort of from three different

perspectives. Doug has only seen the first five

episodes. I've seen it all. Steve got the preview,

which was Like four or five episodes, but Steve

has also seen the whole of the 13 episodes since

Hulu's Animaniacs got released. What I find absolutely

hilarious is I watched this both on my computer

and my phone at times. On my phone, in the Hulu

app, three different Hulu logos pop up. The Hulu

black and green Originals logo pops up. You know,

you're watching a Hulu presentation or whatever,

and then a third, you know, this is a Hulu blah,

blah, blah. And then the Warner Brothers logo

pops up, and I'm like, okay, how many logos do

we get here? Like, come on. You don't need three

different Hulu logos. If I'm watching on Hulu,

obviously I know where it's from. Oh, yeah, I

got it on my Apple TV where it starts off. I

get the Warner Brothers logo. Hulu comes up after

that. Then it comes up with a Hulu original.

And then it gets it in the contracts part of

the intro. Oh, yeah. They're not shy about self

-promotion. We'll get to that in one of the episodes.

I'm sure we're going to talk about that. Absolutely.

Okay, so all of us... When I was 13, from age

13 to 18, I was kind of... of cartoons. I knew

about Animaniacs in the 90s, but I didn't actually

dislike it as a teenager. I didn't really care.

I didn't really know anything about it. I didn't

really care about it. I didn't really pay attention

about it when I was a teenager. Doug is slightly

older than both Steve and I, and Steve is younger

than both Doug and myself. So, Steve's the baby

of the podcast here. Age -wise, anyway. But I

eventually came around and I watched Animaniacs,

I think at some point, and then it hit Netflix.

Oh no, originally I had the DVD sets at the time.

I watched it on DVD. And I love the original

show. I think it's a great, great show. It holds

up. The thing for me with cartoons and with most

visual media, it's not whether it holds up or

not. is I view it in the time that it was meant

to be. Because it's going to come up eventually

anyway, because every podcast we do on the PC

has to involve Transformers. Transformers Generation

1 was done in the 80s. Beast Wars was done in

the 90s. You look at it in that scope of that

time. You don't say, oh, well, if this was made

today... Anyway. If this was made today, a lot

of stuff would have happened. A lot of different...

All right. What was your experience with it,

Doug, in the beginning, way back when? Well,

funnily enough, all my friends and I actually

watched the show. This was on while I was in

high school. I remember I actually had a friend

of mine way back when, and this is going to really

date me, I used to run a BBS. I've never heard

of it. This is pre -internet, pre -big internet.

This was kind of the precursor to it in that

you had a dial -up and everybody could get into

your media. One of the guys on there happened

to be named, a guy by the name of Scott Watson

happened to be named Tiaka Warner. And he kind

of got me hooked on the show. And we started

watching. He was pretty soon quoting all of the...

you know, pinky the green things of, are you

pondering what I'm pondering? All the stuff at

the end of each episode's credits or back credits

up, running for the intro, you have the different

intros with, you know, animating, I'm Lon Chaney

or something like that coming on. You know, that

was, that was great gag. We all loved it. The

fact that, you know, I actually, We actually

used it in geography. Our geography teacher loved

it because he taught us the countries of the

world from it and the state capitals with Yako

Wako singing it. So we got to learn a little

bit of that. It was fun. I enjoyed it. Absolutely.

Steve, what about you? What was your exposure

to Animaniacs in the 90s? I remember watching

it shortly after, because I think it came out,

what, after Tiny Toons? Yep. Somewhere after

that. See, I didn't like Tiny Toons as much.

And so when this came out, I was like, oh, it's

something new. And then I, of course, saw Pinky

and the Brain, and then I saw some of the songs,

and I was like, I believe the first song I saw

was Wacko Belching. Oh, the great Wacko Rotty.

Yes. So I saw that first, I believe. And that

was just, as a younger person, it was hilarious.

And so the whole object of it is you try and

go around and imitate it. I never succeeded,

but I can mimic some of the tones. But yeah,

the show caught my attention with a lot of the

skits. I liked the good feathers. I liked the...

Good idea, bad idea. The chicken boo, the slappy

squirrel. There were so many different variety

sketches in the show that I just couldn't help

but enjoy it because kind of the joke with it

was if you don't like this particular skit or

segment, wait four minutes and then it'll turn

into something else anyway. So, like, it was

fine with me, honestly. And there was so much

that I enjoyed with not only the voices, but

the fact that it was just so different. And coming

into this one, I was disappointed to hear that

it was only Pinky and the Brain and the Warner

Brothers and their sister. I realized that Kiki

and the Brain got their own series for three

seasons as well. Although the third season kind

of crossed over with Tiny Toons a little bit

with Elmira. But, and granted, I hated her character

anyway, so it was just atrocious with that. But

yeah, those segments, I feel like with this show,

they almost try too hard. the Warner brothers

relying too heavily on them. And the pinky in

the brain is kind of the middle segment, which

is pretty much, you know, you get what you're

expecting out of that. Exactly. And so that I

didn't have a problem with per se. And I found

some of those like laugh worthy because they

did something new with them and they were able

to use modern jokes with it. But I missed a lot

of the old, uh, skit players in the, the program.

Um, they did. They did do one callback in one

of the episodes. I don't know if you've gotten

to it or not. Yes, he has. I made sure he watched

that just in case because that's honestly the

highlight of the series. That, to me, was hilarious

how it came out. They're putting the dots together

and they're... Just how that whole thing came

out with Chicken Boo and then the rest of them

chasing him out of town, even though they didn't

get voiced. A small part of me was hoping that

they got to play their character again as they

chased him out. But yeah, I missed the variety.

I missed the segments, the sketches, the good

idea, bad idea. I loved good idea, bad idea so

much that I used it in college in 2016 for an

assignment. It was sorely missed. Absolutely.

So much with this one that was just, you know,

like you said, things that were missing, obviously

all the other characters. I mean, yeah, we did

get the nod in episode five where we kind of

get an explanation. But the whole, you know,

even the joke at the very beginning of that episode

where they're drawing ideas out of a hat. It

was like, we're out of ideas. You know, why the

F -bomb did you... You know, why didn't you get

some of the other things? Get some of the other

writers that you guys had and put them out there.

Have them come in. Well, and the thing is with

that is I was looking at Tom Ruger and some of

the other people. They didn't even approach them.

Yeah. They just left them high and dry, and I

felt like the wit and the charm that was Animaniacs

back in the 90s... this doesn't happen it doesn't

happen it's it's too and i'm not saying that

you know like some i could see where some would

be offended by the um like the the gun episode

with the bunnies and the you know the the trumpisms

that are in it which they always made fun of

stuff i mean they made fun of bill clinton 90

of the time Because he was president at that

time. I wasn't offended by that, and I understood

it. Yes, was it a little bit annoying just because

we've had it in our face for four years? Yeah.

But overall, I felt like they were trying too

hard to make something that they themselves enjoyed

instead of something that was actually just profound

and really good. I don't know who it was at Warner

Brothers. I don't know if it was Sam Register.

I don't know if it was anyone else. I don't even,

you know, I'm not even currently looking at who

actually is the CEO. I don't think Register is.

But it's one of those things where I don't know

what edict was passed down to say, you need to

fill 30 minutes, let's say 23 minutes, with five

characters. Linky and the Brain and the Warners.

Fill it all. Fill it with whatever you can fill

it with. Make sure it's somewhat funny. Or whatever,

because here's the thing. This is my biggest

complaint. There is not enough variety. You compare

episode one of the new Animaniacs to the first

episode of the original Animaniacs, there's at

least seven or ten other characters in that first

episode from the original show versus five characters

here trying to fill time. That was my biggest

complaint about it, too. I felt like, you know,

I kept thinking, well, where are your good feathers?

Where is Rita and Run? Where is Chicken Boo?

I mean, yeah, we got an episode kind of good

in Chicken Boo, but where is everybody else?

You know, this is... It's not enough. Yeah. I

felt like we, in a way, got gypped. on part of

the series. And let me tell you, having watched

further in the 10 episodes that they have, it

wasn't... They had some high moments in some

of it, but a lot of the pro... I'm trying to

dance around this as carefully as I can, but

a lot of the things that they push the envelope

with. on purpose, like, more so just because,

like, it didn't fit. Like, they were trying too

hard. Whereas, like, the old Animaniacs used

to push the envelope too, but they did it in

a witty way that you didn't realize what they

were doing. Right. And even as an adult, watching,

you know, like, I forget when the original Animaniacs

five -volume sets came out, the five DVD volumes

came out, at least ten years ago or more. Ten

years ago, when I watched that for the first

time all the way through, I watched all 99 episodes.

I got every single thing. I laughed at the things

you're supposed to laugh at. And for me, watching

all 13 of these episodes, almost all at once,

I think I watched them within a day and a half.

There were things I laughed at. There were things

that I cringed at. There were things that I just

don't think belonged there. Again, who's the

target? Is it just the people creating this that

are the target? Are they trying to... And they

even mention this. Oh, we want to appeal to the...

In the very first episode, we want to appeal

to the dads because those are the people who

grew up with the old show. Blah, blah, blah,

blah, blah. Reboot, reboot, reboot, reboot. And

this is the thing. I felt alienated. Yep. I felt

more in the vein of... I felt like... I liked

Pinky and the Brain back in the day, and I still

enjoy the hell out of them now, but I was always

more of a Warner person when I was watching it,

kind of thing. At least when I was watching it,

you know, 10, 11, 12 years ago. And now I feel

like I've, you know, someone said this, that

I think that adults, the adult us's have flipped,

where we would rather, like, the Pinky and the

Brain stuff made more sense to us than what the

Warners were doing. Yeah, I'll agree with that.

I know one of the things that I look forward

to, and it was kind of a, I don't know, it seemed

kind of weird to me, the episode where they were

talking about women's rights, the whole Dot song

that she did, and they're talking about Susan

B. Anthony, Sojourner Truth, all the women that

were fighting for women's rights and the right

to vote. Oh, well, cartoon characters have to

vote. And we have to see the whole fill of cartoon

characters coming out with the Flintstones, uh,

uh, filthy peril and all that stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

Again, like I understand you want to make timely

comedy and the sad thing is this was made two

years ago. They even say that in the show. But

it felt dated. Yeah. This was being written two

years ago. Okay. Half of the Trump stuff that's

in here is, at least for me personally. It's

cringeworthy, but it's because a lot of it's

like really dated. Yeah. It felt like that they

could have found other things. To make fun of,

like they did, you know, they made fun of the

news at one point. They made fun of, you know,

some various other things, but I feel like they

there were more creative ways they probably could

have done some of this. It's just that they kind

of just did what they did because that's the

show they wanted. Some of the jokes that they

did, one of the ones that I kind of cringed over,

well, several things I cringed over on the show,

but One of them was with the Seth Meyers. And

they brought out Seth Meyers and they had him.

And it was just like, and then he goes, I'll

wait for you guys. Yeah. You guys missed that

completely. That wasn't funny at all. You can

be president. You'll get it. I'll wait. And honestly,

I don't find Seth funny. Karen finds him funny.

I don't. I've never. The only time Seth is funny

is when he's putting on a vocal impression or

when he's trying to do a character. Seth himself

is not funny at all. I cringe every time I see

a section of his show. The one thing I want to

bring up is the theme song because there are

some new lyrics. So just sit back and relax.

You'll laugh till you collapse. We're Animaniacs.

Come join the Warner Brothers. And the Warner

Sister Dot. Just for fun we run around the Warner

movie lot. They lock us in the tower whenever

we get caught. But we break loose and never moose

and now you know the plot. We're Animaniacs.

Dot has wit and yak -o -yaks. Wacko packs away

the snacks. Our careers have become facts. We're

Animaniacs. Me, Pinky, and the Brain who want

to rule the universe. A brand new cast who tested

well and focused group research. Gender balanced,

pronoun neutral, and ethically diverse. The trolls

will say we're so passe but we did meta first.

We're Animaniacs. You should see our new contracts.

We're zany to the max. There's baloney in our

slacks. We're animany. Totally insaney. Have

no shamey. to this theme song now. Well, they

changed Dot is Cute to Dot Has Wit. Right, Dot

Has Wit. Our careers have made comebacks, which,

obviously, our careers have made comebacks. We're

Animaniacs. In verse two, they say, meet Pinky

and the Brain, who want to rule the universe.

A brand new cast who tested well and focused

with research. Gender balanced, pronoun neutral,

and ethnically diverse. The trolls will say we're

so passe, but we did meta first. And then other

changes were, you should see our new contracts.

And here's the show's namey. Here's the show's

namey was always there. I don't know why that

shows as a changed lyric. And they obviously

insert, you know, whatever they're going to insert

into that. Here's the show's namey and blah,

blah, blah, blah, blah. But this theme song is

not. I hope they change it for season two, but

I don't think they will. They won't. I don't

think they will. It would have changed to put

lower characters back in. The whole slapping,

you know, slapping, waxing with their furs. Mm

-hmm. Yep. You know, cut out. That was part of

what was great. Exactly. What else do we want

to talk about with this? I love, and I will not

say anything against them at all. It's not their

fault. I love all the voice actors that did return.

I love the new animation. Okay. Other, like,

as far as, like, the Warners and some of that

is concerned, some of the brighter, vivid colors,

some of the cleaner lines. However, the short

segments that they did, or the where they went

off in different animation styles, like the borderline,

like, CalArts thing, or the the Powerpuff Girls

almost type setup, and the the anime a lot of

that just like particularly in some of the stuff

where they're trying to show people like really

gross or nasty looking they they had almost a

ren and stimpy vibe to it which was oh my and

i was i was looking at this and i'm like they

literally are all over the map with the animation

like i i was kind of grossed out at the The Ren

and Stimpy stuff, it's like, this stuff would,

I mean, granted, they're rebooting it, so who

knows what they're going to do. I mean, it's

on Comedy Central or something like that. But,

yeah, I don't know. I didn't really care for

any of those aspects. I will leave you with that.

There was two characters in there that, if you've

watched, ever watched Ren and Stimpy, you're

probably close there. Something John did later

called The Ripping Fern, which a lot of it had,

you know, a lot of it had pile of enemies. And

I'm watching it and there's that, there was the

whole Olympics episode that they did with that

guy. And I'm looking and I'm going, shit, it

looks like something straight out of John Christopher

Lucy's Nightmares. Yeah, it looked like Butter

Toast Man with the human form. You know, and

I went, oh God, cringe. That, and then the Odysseus

bit. And there's, I'm going to talk about this

because it's just unnerving to see it. He stands

out there, he's singing off the front of the

bow of the ship, trying to make a joke about

having hair in arms and all his hair. And I happen

to look, and there's a bit throughout the entire

thing, you see a bit of, I'm going to say it's

cute because of how low it is. Where is it? Oh,

it's popping up on the top. Oh, that was bad.

Yeah, I found so much cringe in the show when

it was the Animaniacs shorts as opposed to when

it was the Pinky and the Brain. The Pinky and

the Brain I felt like was the most stable and

coherent out of all of it. And those were the

few segments I could stand to watch all of it.

Yeah, some of it was a little bit repetitive

in certain elements, but you pretty much knew

what you were getting because it's Pinky and

the Brain. What was the other thing I was going

to say? I did notice that they sprinkled in voice

actors occasionally from other things. Specifically

when they had the Olympics and Dot was on the

unicorn. That was John Bailey. I don't know if

you're familiar with him, Doug, but on his trailers,

guy. He played Optimus Prime in one of the War

for Cybertron things by Machinima, one of the

seasons, I think the second season of it. But

he was doing basically an Optimus Prime in that

moment. I thought it was Peter Cullen for a second.

I'm like, no, that doesn't sound like Peter Cullen.

No, that was John Bailey. I know the dude's voice.

Yeah, John Bailey was Pegasus. Diedrich Bader

was Odysseus. Wow. Batman as Odysseus. Okay.

Oh, Phil Lamarr had a no -name part. Yep. Honestly,

the voice cast wasn't my problem. It was a lot

of the animation all over the place. And then

the jokes just fell flat. It could have been

so much more profound and intelligent on a writing

level had they had the original writers back.

And that's no disrespect against the actors or

the people doing the music or any of that, because

what they did was well for what it was. But,

yeah. Well, did you guys know that Wellesley

Wilde, who is one of the executive producers

of the show, apparently I guess he's got big

ties with Family Guy. Yes. That's probably why

I'm feeling more of this kind of... Gross, weird

humor that just doesn't quite fit. I get it.

They're trying to bring in something for the

21st century, but it didn't work. No. Okay, so

I'm looking at the credits on IMDb. And it does

list Leslie Wilde, and it lists Timothy Nash,

and Jess Slatcher, and all these other people.

People I've never even heard of. I'm not a Family

Guy person. that's great if you are fine whatever

it's not my thing but like he's listed as developer

for eight of the 13 episodes and i'm like oh

okay i guess sure and tom minton who was one

of the original people is listed as developer

unknown episodes ruger is listed as characters

unknown episode how do you not know that there

are 13 episodes for this well imdb doesn't necessarily

have to be accurate true Because they were never

really approached. They put them for characters

because they created the characters and they

developed the original show. It has nothing to

do with this new version, though, but they have

to credit them because they created it. Yeah.

The other thing I don't like is, and it's because

it was not zany enough. It's not because they

put a female CEO. But you look at Thaddeus Plotz

and Dr. Scratch and Sniff versus the Warners.

And you look at this new thing with the female

CEO. She's just annoying. She just doesn't want

to have anything to do with them at all. She's

not even worried about them. And I'm like, hello,

that's the point. That's the premise of the Warner.

You're supposed to be worried. And the fact that

Scratch and Sniff is only in one episode, that

made me mad. I do like, however, that he said,

and I love this, like, yes, we had the character

thing at the end of episode five and all of that,

but Dr. Scratch and Sniff. actually said, we

should have gone to Doctors Without Borders with

Hello Nurse. Like, I like that we actually got

an explanation of why Hello Nurse is not there.

Yeah. Yeah, I, yeah. I must have missed that

particular episode, or that segment of it, where

he talked, because I did not see that. Really?

Yeah. Scratch and sniff? Yeah. Yeah, I didn't.

Is that episode 13, I think? Oh, that's why.

When I watched on Hulu, the first time I watched,

they had five episodes. When I watched the second

time, they had ten. There were three episodes

missing. Oh, jeez. Yeah, go back and watch episode

13. Not that we're going to come back to this

or anything like that, but just for yourself

so you can see it. So I've got to watch 11 through

13, but Rachel McFarlane, Seth McFarlane's wife,

plays the boss. Oh, okay. That explains a lot.

I'm kind of wondering why they don't have Dr.

Sniffin more because Bob Paulson voices Dr. Sniffin.

And he fits really well with the Warners. Yes.

A lot of the stuff back in the 90s, they had

multiple episodes. Like with him talking to Ronald

Reagan and figuring it out. says, oh, I want

to be a president. You know, this all is supposed

to be back in the 60s or 70s or whatever before

he was actually president. That was a joke. Why

not pull them in? And it's not like they couldn't

do harm with scratch and stiff. Why didn't they?

I don't know. Overall, I think all three of us,

I'm not going to speak for us, but I think what

I'm getting is that we're fine with the fact

that we've seen it. But it's probably not something

we're going to go back and watch again. Who knows

if any of us are actually going to watch season

two. I'll watch season two because I'm a glutton

for punishment. It's the same reason why I watch

all the new Star Trek shows even though I can't

stand them. I'll probably be the same. I'll watch

it to see if we get any new characters because

I'm really hoping they'll bring back some of

the others. But I'm just kind of like... I don't

have high hopes. So you mentioned earlier about

Rita and Walt. I know Frank Welker is still alive.

Hell, Frank Welker was Ralph, wasn't he? He was

Ralph the Guard. Yeah, so I know Frank is still

alive. During the process of us recording this

episode of ToonCast, I looked up Tom Bogat and

Bernadette Peters, because Bernadette Peters

was the voice of Rita. They're both still alive.

Bernadette Peters is like 72 years old. I don't

know whether... elf is, but they're both still

alive. I'll tell you this. Bernadette Peters

looks great. I happened to see her on... She

showed up on an episode of Zoe's Extraordinary

Playlist. That's right. I remember that. Yes.

It was great. Singing. I'm going, Oh my God!

Rita's still alive! That's right. I remember

that episode. Yes. Absolutely. I know we've all

watched various parts and Steve needs to catch

up and Doug needs to watch the rest, but I still

want to use the GCR Universal Rating Scale, which

is 0 to 5 stars. I personally probably am going

to give it a three. It's a two and a half, a

three for me because it just lacks that extra

variety. Yeah, I think I'm going to do the same,

and I'm going to give it a two and a half, three

on that. I'm hoping it gets better, but I'm not

holding a high candle for it. And the fact that

on my Facebook page, that I made earlier today

on this. Shortly before we were actually going

through this recording, Tom Ruger actually happened

to see my comment and was not happy. Yes. He

actually posted an angry face. And I completely

understand that because he was left out of all

of this. Yeah, I don't like that at all. We got

a chance to interview Tom for the first time.

Last year. Last year, yeah. It was this time

last year, I think. Yeah, it was this time last

year, actually. And he was so nice. Oh, he was

awesome to talk to. He was so fun to talk to.

Go back and listen to that interview, folks.

I'll put it in the show notes here for this episode

of ToonCast. I almost said ToonCast Beyond. I

forgot what show it was on. No, but I mean, I

had so much fun talking to Tom last year about...

Animaniacs and all of the various shows that

he's been a part of. You could just tell the

love and the inspiration poured out of him about

it. To not include him or the other writers is

kind of a disservice to the program. It really

hurts. I remember I went up to see an Animaniacs

live that they did in La Mirada several years

ago. They were just starting to take off this

whole Animaniacs Live thing that Rob Paulson

was doing. And they had Chris Arnell. They had

Tress McNeil. They had Randy Rogel. But there

were a bunch of people that were in the audience.

I saw Andrea Romano there. Tom Ruder was actually

sitting three seats in front of me, had I known.

I would have said hi, you know, to him. But just,

I mean, all these people. And, like, Tom got

up. He was waving at everybody. He was very proud.

He showed up wearing a tiny cheese cast leather

jacket. He was just so proud of it. He was so

happy to see people performing the songs and

the theater being full for all these people who've

grown up watching this stuff. Now to be left

out of this, that's not just a dagger to the

heart. You put a sword in it. You twisted it

around. You pulled it back. shot him with it

it's like basically shooting somebody with the

eye of fundera or something yeah it was it was

just horrible like how they they did that to

to them and then they tried to say that they

included them and they're like look we've never

heard anything about it until we caught news

that it was coming and then our agent was trying

furiously to get a hold of them and they're like

look you're not going to be part of this that's

ridiculous um One thing before we go, only because

I feel the need to comment on this, is this episode

will be out soon for ToonCast. It's been confirmed

through Twitter and through some production people

or whatever else, but I have a post here from

ThundercatsNow. ThundercatsNow can now confirm

the controversial and divisive show Thundercats

Roar has been cancelled by Cartoon Network. Thundercats

producer Marlee Halpern Bracer announced on Twitter...

The upcoming December 5th Christmas episode will

be the series' last. Oh, Lord. I hope Warners

can do something better with Thundercats, because

that show... I watched, like, five episodes of

it, and, you know, Steve mentioned earlier in

this episode the CalArts style. I miss traditional

animation. Raising World of Gumball should not

be Thundercats style. No. Yeah, that's a whole

other topic. Sorry, I wouldn't... Alright, coming

up next time on ToonCast, episode 232 will be

our Christmas 2020 episode because we all need

something fun here in 2020. And Steve and I are

going to be talking about the LEGO Star Wars

Holiday Special that was on Disney+. So very,

very cool. I'm so glad we have a holiday special

from Star Wars that we can actually watch and

enjoy. Because nobody wants to watch bookie porn.

Stop it. Doug, where can the people find you

online, sir? Oh, I've been hiding. I'm out there

on Facebook. Find me there. I still have a Twitter

account, at F -B -R -Z -O -U -T. And talk about

my generation. It's still out there. I still

have it at mygenerationpodcast .com, so you guys

can go check it out out there as well. Awesome.

What about you, Mr. Megatron? Well, they can

find me on Twitter at scp21. There you go. Alright,

I am at tf2andmike on Twitter. You can follow

at dcastradio for the network updates, at gcr

and tooncast for the show updates. Again, I was

going to say at tooncastbeyond. You can follow

there, too, because I post pretty much the same

content on both of them. Even though tooncastbeyond

is not dead. Since we're back to... TuneCast.

All tunes all the time. 24 -7. Uh, yeah, so,

uh, Star Wars Lego Holiday, Lego Star Wars Holiday

Special coming up next. After that, who knows?

Because originally, episode 231 to 249 was all

going to be Scooby -Doo stuff because this was

supposed to be recorded last year during the

50th anniversary of Scooby -Doo. Oh, well. Make

your great escape of the cartoons, and we'll

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