Streaming Services Exhaustion!

Well, I say he does have to shoot me now! So

shoot me now! Oh, a sneak attack, eh? I gotta

warn you, you're dealing with scrappy dudes!

That's more like it! Mwah! T -t -t -snake demon?

Oh, like what's the good news? That is the good

news. Huh? The bad news is that all images of

the demon are cursed. Cursed? Wrist? How's everybody

tonight? Good. Fantastic. Very much. Very, very

fantastic. It's going to be very interesting.

Yes, it is. And I will warn you ahead of time,

Steve, and the reason why Steve knows this is

because he remembers it almost better than I

do. We get death threats over 15 years ago. Netflix.

Okay, that's what I thought it was. Yeah, that's

all because we didn't because we didn't use who

because we didn't use Hulu Right. That's what

it is. I have the email somewhere They got death

threats that shit is need to cover the Sanji

more People literally gave us Death threats for

not using We were talking. Yeah, so back then

we were talking about what we were watching and

what we were doing and what new streaming services

we were using Yeah, and we had I think two different

episodes back then about streaming services.

It was like Netflix in their crappy fail failure

thing quickster and then Hulu and something else

and this person was like You don't use Hulu.

I'm going to blah blah blah blah. I'm like really

You're sending us death threats over a streaming

service. Really? Yeah, these people were unhinged.

Yeah, very unhinged Yeah, they were going to

different sites to from like they're like, oh,

you don't like Nintendo Like they were going

after like other people at other websites and

I was like these guys are morons. I Suddenly

feel like I'm that somehow. I feel like suddenly

going ash come get some Yeah It was stupid though,

these people. They're all, they're all in hinge.

That's, that's the given thing with these guys,

man. It's you're never going to placate everybody.

And the thing is, even if you wanted to placate

them, do you really want to? I mean, a lot of

these guys are going to complain. Yeah, I actually

found One of one of the emails Lay on us 129

yeah 129 2016 Wow, I thought it was earlier than

that. No, I don't know. Well, I think it might

have been 2015 from the initial person I don't

have that email particularly but So, I sent this

email to this other guy. It was telling us that

we were bullying his friend. I sent a very professional

email back. I was like, we are unsure why your

friend is trolling us. However, we never made

an iTunes comment about it. Also, to be fair,

some of our staff use Hulu, which is what I know

this whole tirade is about. Some use Netflix.

The reason we predominantly refer to Netflix

is due to the fact most of us use it and the

content it has. It has nothing to do with bullying

or choosing to neglect the other streaming service.

Nor have we ever said ill of those services.

Why your friend continuously bullies us about

it is beyond us. We would like to stay mutual

in the whole affair. Also, in effort to communicate

fairness, we ask that you and your friend write

to us in courteous and fair manner. We can hardly

and effectively read your feedback when half

of the words are misspelled and the grammar is

broken. I don't understand the ending of your

comments. Thanks for understanding." So he says,

you misunderstood or misunderstood. Yeah, he

says and then he sends me a second email and

he goes you miss under sound he was labeled or

labeled that as bullying since it's as and Though

back to what the kids on playground was doing

since he was Nintendo kid and only Or one only

ones in the school to have an in computer and

the internet Literally, this is like verbatim

what the guy wrote And then so like after that

we never heard back until four months later When

the same moron emails back and goes this site

is fell shows not on disk DVDs are blur or blurry

Pay and own Ike iTunes or any And now to me streaming

Stuvis Isis and so the real grammar major here

But he went to college. I don't know. I have

the email from this person, like the exact email

address. It's a Gmail, by the way. Because they

were mentioning Kiss Cartoons as like the thing,

but it was like not actually in the email. And

then I was like, thanks. And then they're like,

didn't Kano you canoe we about it? I like it

since Thier are many cartoons I can't view anywhere

else until Thier on disc pen iTunes or Hulu.

Once I get them, one of them, I unbookmark that

cartoon. Oh, it hurts my head. Is he trying to

serenade you? He was very hardcore. Notice Hulu

still got in there. This is, this is astonishing.

This, this kind of language is just astonishing.

I mean, if I feel, I feel like if I was his grammar

teacher, I would have slapped him around a few

times and made him read the dictionary. What

email did this guy send to? Oh, he sent it to

feedback. So I wonder if it's still. Oh, he's

going to go. I wonder if I still have it. I mean,

OK, so what do you think about this lunacy? I

get that. I got that for a while when YouTube

was promoting my starfield. Short how I said

on on my show with you guys, I will never be

another Bethesda game again, because this is

not the most innovative game of the year. And

I remember being roasted for it. But granted,

it was. pretty darn hilarious at the end of the

day. But yeah, there was those that were like

ready to fall on the sword of Bethesda. How did

you say this? They're ready to start crying.

And I'm just like, why? I can have my opinion

and I'm sorry, but the game. This this is why

when we had yeah, I don't have it Unfortunately

because I think this email only goes back to

2018 because we switched web posts But yeah,

I I Had fun reading I don't know why I saved

it, but I think it's still humorous. It's still

there But we used to get all kinds of weird threats

though. We used to get them on iTunes, we used

to get emails, we used to get comments on the

website. We used to, I can't even remember all

of the idiocy that used to come our way. It just,

it was mind boggling the level of stupid we would

get sometimes. And then that's why Mike and I

used to, we used to go on rants, like calling

these people out in the middle of the show. And

then after a while we're like, eh. I don't care.

And and you know, sometimes we used to record

our show, though. Well, we did. You got to do

it. You can't just tell them it's headshot. You

got to really do it. Headshot. I mean, I mean,

you got to monetize your haters. That's right.

I wish monetize those haters, man. Oh, man. it

was just yeah it was it was just funny um i but

that's also why headshots not online anymore

is because obviously yeah i don't need that kind

of publicity with the way people are today oh

the council oh yeah so well i don't need to lose

my job because of something i said like 15 years

ago yeah or well it could be worse it could be

like nasanji You say talk anything about nasanji

on uh youtube right now because there's a big

scandal going on with the vtuber world and all

that stuff Let's put it this way right now If

you say anything Then they're canceling you they're

uh Swatting your house calling calling them and

swatting you And just all sorts of crap. That

still happens? Yes. More often than not. More

often than you think. People are unhinged. Like

literally people don't have a moral compass anymore.

They have no concept of time. They have no concept

of what they're doing. They don't care who they

hurt. They're like, burn the world down. They

offended me. Yup. I guess I've just gotten to

the point after 15 and a half, 16 years for me

and almost 15 years for the network. I just don't

care anymore. Am I sad when something sad in

the world happens? It's a real tragedy. Yeah,

absolutely. Can I feel emotion? Yeah, absolutely

wouldn't generally like it's not directly affecting

me. I don't give a shit. I mean, I pretty much

just. I just leave it alone unless I really,

really care. Now, God, we have this so. Pay for

this only because i get something in return for

get those you guys know they have shown to you

they're the support slap shot pops on youtube

and they have a patreon program and they send

you. Every month they send you a park and whatever

it's a full form hockey park so it's mainly because

of that but because i am one of their patrons

i have access to their. Instagram chats with

the blue team is the team that i'm on. And there's

a guy in there that is just so overwhelmingly

positive and so asinine as far as like. He likes

things half the, half the rest of the people

don't like, or this or that or whatever, or he,

he would rather spend money on one thing, but

he won't spend money on something he really wants.

And I'm just like, he's just one of those people

that you just, Oh God, my head. Yeah. That is

the norm. I mean that's that's the norm with

everything Fortunately, yeah, I just get what

I want You know, I mean if you come at a point

in my life I just I yeah, I'm just like I'm gonna

get what I want and if it doesn't work That's

on me, but I at least got it Yeah Well, they

always there's always that whole thing of if

I You can't have my way. I go out of my way to

try to make sure I destroy your life. And that's

that is a norm in today's society. And. It's

in my opinion, social media has created this

weird universe where these people that think

they are. Marauding heroes of some. Screwed up

social justice will turn around and go right

at you and right at everybody else and They don't

have any accountability. They're not afraid of

it and part of it is because Okay, let's be real

probably most of them don't hold a job most of

them are probably sitting there I hate using

this term, but welfare recipient that they can

sit in mom's basement collecting a check and

sit there and type on the keyboard and be the

armchair warrior. And the armchair warrior. Yeah,

it's so true. And I don't understand why we can't.

There's no such thing as civil discourse anymore.

No, because people don't go by What I usually

go by and what Steve normally goes by but he

doesn't say it the way I said No, I know what

you're gonna say opinions are like assholes.

Everybody's got one Look, I can Steve and I have

disagreed on things a lot in the last last 15

years But at the end of the day, we're still

best friends at the end of the day like we've

never gotten to a point where it's like It's

like I still think Scrappy Doo is bad. But honestly,

he's better than any of the modern cartoons.

So I have to give him props because he doesn't

suck in that regard. He's got more cojones than

any of the modern cartoons do. Think of it this

way. It's okay to disagree with friends. It's

okay to disagree with people. We have forgotten

in modern society, it's okay to disagree. It's

okay to not like something it's okay to think.

Marvel's garbage it's okay to just not like what

you see. And somehow. Society's change things

where. If you dislike disney because of bad shows.

You've got a lot of problems all of a sudden

and people try to cancel you and they'll try

to make your life a living hell and they forget

the fundamental thing about it, which is We all

want something good in life and we all want something

to escape The politics of the world if you flip

on the TV or you flip on the internet nowadays

And I'm just saying flip on it's literally the

first page is Politics second page politics third

page politics fourth page politics. I am so exhausted

with Modern drama I can understand why people

feel like there is like literally no hope in

the world And maybe that's why when you go to

the doctor's office, I don't know if you guys

have had this with the doctor Do they ever say

are you feeling hopeless or depressed or any

of this? Every time I go in I'm like I One, if

I was, I probably wouldn't tell you because you

put me on a mental list. Two, I'm not. I've got

plenty going on in my life that I don't hate.

I feel like people focus too much on negative,

watch too much news and just don't. I mean, yeah,

I can hate stuff with pop culture or hate stuff

with politics or things like that, but honestly,

it doesn't from my day to day. Does it ruin my

life? No, because I'm going to do what I'm going

to do and I'm going to enjoy what I enjoy and

I'm not going to like let it bother me. But there's

a lot of people that just like they literally

will let it ruin their entire existence. And

that is so true. And the thing is, is that we

have like. Do I suffer from depression? Yes.

Does it happen all the time? No, not all the

time. And usually for me, usually how I get it

to go away or get my brain to reset is I'll take

a nap or I'll go to sleep for the night and just

wake up for the next day and restart the whole

day. Oh, you know, next new day, new things,

new whatever. So it's like, I don't know. Yeah,

I'm also I don't let it dwell. I suffer from

depression. Did my mom. Yeah, absolutely. But,

you know, is it very, very sure or whatever.

But like, I'm not going to like. I have come

to realize and I've also curated my social media

so I don't, unless I'm looking for it, I don't

see any of the crap that I know is gonna quote

unquote trigger me to want to whatever. Like

this guy I was talking about that's in that chat.

Like today, I deleted, I wrote out comments that

I was gonna reply to his thing and I just, I'm

like, nope, I can't. Can't do this. I can't.

I have to just delete this and not say anything

and just walk away because I can't contribute

to it. It's just noise. Mm hmm. Yep. Mm hmm.

By the way, I just just thought some of this

is actually good. We use this. Oh, yeah, for

sure. We can we can throw intro at the beginning

and then OK, OK. I just want to make sure. Before

- before we continue, you're listening to Altered

Geek. That's the pre -show, folks. Pre -show?

What was the pre -show? So everything you saw

before that was pre... the show... which makes

a pre -show! Hi, this is John Delancey and you

are listening to the Geekcast Radio Network.

Hi, this is Adam Mastroianni and you're listening

to Altered Geek. Grr. Arrgh. You are tuned in

to Steve Megatron on Altered Geek. He's Steve

Megatron, I'm TF2 and Mike and holy crap. This

is the Dragon Lord Kai. I was going to say pause

for dramatic effect because I actually have a

Dragon Roar sound effect that I'm going to put

in and people would have already heard it at

this point. That's amazing. I was just thinking,

God, this is some good conversation. Oh my God.

Please tell me we're using it. I record everything

and I use most things. I use everything, but

I use most of it. Yeah, you got to be careful

what you say around Mike. He's recording. But

I'm sending my check in the mail like don't worry.

Don't worry. I gotta make sure it doesn't bounce

as long as I'm paid in advance I Don't accept

checks. Yeah. Well, I can't guarantee that I

have you seen today's prices for food. I mean

That's what she said That's right. This is episode

427 and this was an idea I had because we've

talked about it before but and Steve and I recently

have talked about this off air and I'm like this

would kind of make a good topic for altered geek.

Why don't we do it? And he's like, okay fine

because most of the time if I have a good idea,

he'll he'll allow it. Streaming. That's how I

roll. That's how he rolls. Streaming services

exhaustion. I'm exhausted. Can I go home now?

Yes. I I'm so tired of the streaming services,

but you know, I've talked about this for a while

that at some point you're going to have Peacock

Paramount Max, Disney Plus, Hulu, Netflix, probably.

More gonna pop up at this rate you're exhausting

people and as they're all raising their prices

because they can't handle handle. For some reason

making any money cuz they don't know anything

about apparently joint ventures partnerships

and working together which modern corporations

don't understand that. They each one wants you

know fifteen twenty dollars for a subscription

if you want to add free stuff if you. Get three

or four of them. You're paying just as much as

cable with the pay channels It's like that captain's

captain planet thing It's got like all of them

calling out different streaming services and

it goes by your powers combined I am as expensive

as cable. That's right I remember back in the

day We had an episode of geek cast radio. I believe

mm -hmm. Yep about You know a la carte in streaming

services. Yep. Oh That was so long ago, but I

remember asking for an a la carte option way

back when and So this is all your fault this

is all your fault remember though I predict the

future I can see the future too. Yeah The future

really sucks right now. Yes. But yeah, I mean,

I feel like we're going to hit this point, though,

where. They're all going to end up kind of colliding

again back into one beast. I mean, I mean, they

kind of almost are sort of I mean, he just I

just mentioned. Peacock and paramount potentially

making a deal and I'm sitting here thinking holy

crap if NBC Universal and whoever the Comcast

technically Makes a deal if Comcast and paramount

make a deal. Hey as long as it's still included

with my Walmart plus subscription that I don't

have to pay for it I'm fine. I'm alright, but

still seriously like I'm making a deal and everybody

else making a deal and like holy crap It's crazy

But the problem is they're wheeling and dealing

and all this they're gonna it's gonna happen

but the same Same issue is just gonna happen

over and over. Let's take Netflix. For example,

Yahoo News as of today 227 there was an article

in finance today. That's literally stayed Netflix

whom just already did a price hike Is getting

ready to do another one because of their wonderful

shows, which speaking of which, has there really

been any wonderful shows? I, I mean, I haven't

really seen anything. I'm just like, okay, you

know, we need something better that I mean, everywhere

you go, all these shows are everywhere and you

have to hunt for them. And sometimes Netflix

is complete miss on all shows for that month.

And Paramount is good for a couple of months.

And I'm just tired of bouncing back and forth.

I liked it back in the old days when Netflix

was dog in town. They had Disney movies, Marvel

movies on it, all this stuff on there. And sure,

they just paid royalties to Disney and all that.

I want to go back to that, maybe one or two streaming

services and just Stop drowning in this. Pay

20 bucks a month for a ton of selection. No more

raises. No, nothing. Life is great. Is it going

to happen? Never. No, they've got a taste of

it. They ain't letting it go. No. Yeah, we did.

We did an episode. This is dating and way back.

2009, GeekCast Radio episode three, we did like

television technology and talked about, you know,

TV and DVD and that kind of content. And then

episode nine was in 2010, pre -10, 2010. Why

has network TV gone down the tubes? Yeah, pretty

much. But it's just funny because we went on

the rant there and then we went on a rant about

Netflix stuff and Quickster and all these other

ones in 2011 and then another one in 2011 from

different mediums and the evolution of TV and

everything. It's honestly quite funny that we're

where we are today. That is very much so. It's

wild. It's disappointing, but yeah. Here's my

thing. My biggest thing with streaming services

is I will pay your subscription price as long

as it's ad free. That's the whole thing with

me and subscription services is whatever your

price is, as long as you have content I want

to consume, and honestly right now, Netflix has

two things. I can't believe that, you know, normally

I'm paying whatever the price is now, I don't

even know, 25, 26 bucks a month, whatever it

is, for two movies that are on Netflix that I

wish were actually on physical media so I can

just watch those movies and never have to be

on Netflix again unless I absolutely had to.

Six Underground and the Atom Project. That's

it. Hulu has numerous shows and movies that come

back and forth and it has a lot of the true crime

stuff I watch. Discovery Plus, I will always

be subscribed to Discovery Plus because it has

all of the investigation discovery stuff that

I've, all the true crime stuff that I watch.

So that's fine. But like Steve was saying, like

you were saying, Kai, if you can dodge a wrench,

you can dodge a streaming service. Like seriously,

it's everywhere. Right. But yeah. Disney Plus,

this plus, that plus, whatever, minus, whatever,

whatever, whatever. It's only, and I know this

is probably going to happen, it's only a matter

of time before Disney envelopes Hulu into Disney

Plus somehow, some way. I know that they do the

Disney bundle with Hulu now or they have been.

I don't know how much longer Hulu is going to

be. But it is on its own outside of the Disney

much longer. Yeah. I mean, Disney. Well, the

reason why is Disney is trying to consolidate

all its power because, you know, those high quality

shows Disney's been releasing for the past several

years and spending all this money on their streaming

program that they didn't realize didn't work

well post pandemic and They've stuck to this.

So you got all these shows low key and One division

all this stuff that they just gurgitated out

there instead of focusing on good quality movies

They just sat there and threw out all this stuff

on their streaming service. Well People come

in binge watch it. Okay, they lock it behind

they'll do one episode a month or a month week,

whatever the whatever the hell it is and next

thing, you know Okay, I'll just wait till it's

all released on Disney plus watch it for a month

then unsubscribe Yep, why stick around? Yep What

value have you offered me? And that's one thing

that none of them will ever be able to explain

is what? My money is worth a lot just like yours

just like Steve just like everyone else we have

to figure out how much we're spending what we're

spending and Unfortunately that how to touch

corporate suits don't really understand this

well, and this is the thing too and like I work

in an industry where Subscriptions are a thing

like but it's a service. It's not necessarily

like a You know streaming or any of that kind

of stuff part of part of the issue with A lot

of these subscriptions are people are getting

just fatigue in general like our money is not

going as far like just people are Kind of upset

with just having to spend more money But the

thing is is people are fine spending the money

give them more value Don't take things away.

Give them things like you're more likely to retain

people and keep them if you don't keep jacking

the price up if you give them more value if you

show them that they can't live without your service.

And in most cases, these platforms are like,

oh, come back to us. We have great platforms.

We have all of these shows that nobody wants

to watch because they're new and they're trash.

If you've noticed, Netflix has started doing

original series that are more family friendly.

Yeah. They've gotten away from some of the stuff

that's a little controversial. They've gotten

stuff that people are more likely to want to

watch because they're not getting the dollars

otherwise. Yeah. And so I think that it's very

wise that they're pivoting plus especially with

all of these other platforms decidedly Creating

their own even though I think that we need more

of the third party stuff and less of The ones

run by the companies themselves because they're

like, oh I can ditch this show and get a tax

break I can delete this show and get a tax break.

I can do you know, it's just not it's not beneficial

to anybody involved other than the stakeholders

and those that Yeah, and it's not even really

beneficial to them When you're throwing away

two films that are practically pretty much completed

Mr.. Bowser like the Willow series Yeah, it was

garbage. It was garbage, but I leave me by you

know verse verse acme and then you get We could

be Wiley Coyote right now I hate to be political,

but release Coyote versus Acme! And then you

get Batwoman. Yeah, that was a surprising one

that they just said, yep, we're scrapping that

too. Granted, they must have really dreaded that

it was going to be hot garbage. But if you know

it's going to be hot garbage to begin with, why

did you even make it? Why did you green light

it? Yeah. I mean, that to me sounds like a boneheaded

move that they did. And then they were trying

to recover from it. And they never did, which

unfortunately that's typical Hollywood for you.

Yeah, I'm not so. And you know, bouncing around

from streaming services, streaming services,

fine. You used to be able to bounce around from

cable package to cable bad. Talk to Steve about

cable packages, man. I mean, dude would get locked

in for two years and then two years later he

would. Clearly turn it off and then get it back.

That's the other thing. That's a whole other

conversation We can have about brand loyalty

New customers come get this new best deal customers

that have been years or more. You're fucked Yeah,

all right but you know, it's just the way that

it is and it just it just sucks and think about

which we will talk about next week about some

of these shows and stuff, but Shows man, like

I don't know what the metric is for I used to

know what the metric was for television for new

television shows If your show got good Nielsen

ratings in the first week and a half to two weeks

or whatever it was You were at least get a full

first season if your show Consistently did go

to the Nielsen ratings. You may have gotten the

second third fourth or fifth season depending

on whatever whatever whatever How with streaming

so I don't know what the metrics are now And

that's the thing is Netflix and all these streaming

platforms don't have to report it to Nielsen.

And Nielsen is actually being kind of shoved

to the wayside. Yes. It's a relic of the past.

And I don't disagree with it. I do understand

it and I do feel like it's warranted to kind

of do away with it because I feel like it's kind

of stupid. Oh, we're going to mail you something

in the mail and say, Hey, um, rate your favorite

shows and rate your favorite radio and rate your

favorite this and that the other thing and It's

I mean, it's kind of biased from the get -go

depending on who you know, I don't know who they're

sending that crap to and the other thing is is

I mean, they've already hand -picked a lot of

this stuff for you when they send it to you.

So it's kind of already rigged Yeah, because

I've been I've been on the receiving end of like

answering the questions. So I've, you know, gotten

the five dollar bill mailed to me, which is kind

of stupid. Oh, no, you want to know what's even

more stupid? I remember 1991. We were a Nielsen

household. My mom got something from Nielsen.

Three one dollar bills. We got three bucks in

1991. And I'm like. Oh, cash in an envelope.

Wait a minute. This isn't three $100 bills. This

is three $1 bills. What's going on here? But

I mean, the whole thing with Nielsen to me is

that, like I said, if it did well in the ratings,

because TV and radio and all, it's dependent.

It's always been dependent upon ratings ever

since the beginning of TV and radio. Right. The

thing to me is like, if we're going to do away

with Nielsen, We need some sort of something.

We need some sort of gauge because no these new

shows like you're talking about the Willow show.

Like I don't even care. I don't even I'm just

going to say Willow as just insert show name

here gets one season or one episode. Like they

can't let things exist unless it's making the

money. That's the problem because they can't

don't let it go long enough to see if it's going

to make money. You can't look. You can't make

a billion bucks overnight. You just can't in

TV. I mean, maybe you can, you know, ever. But

I don't know. It's just my biggest problem with

it is that they don't give stuff enough of a

chance. And if I'm not given enough of a chance

to try something, why am I going to try it? Why

am I going to watch this new show that I'm going

to get invested in? And then all of a sudden,

Sweep the leg or rip the rug out from under me

What I'd rather go back to a show that I know

is already either completed or already canceled

and watch that Take any of the 80s comedies take

any of the 90s kind of whatever it you know,

they're all wrong Yeah, you're not wrong at all

in that and I think that's it's so frustrating

because I look at all these prices and like Netflix

I haven't watched Netflix and Since Koper Kai,

whenever the hell that was the last season, I

think over a year, I keep it for my family because

when I have guests, they come watch it, but it's

just getting more and more of a hassle. I watch

Max more than I do Netflix, but that's only when

they have the shows that I'm looking for Paramount.

My mom got that cause she wanted to watch the

NFL. Play off game that was exclusive to streaming

service which by the way it's the stupidest thing

i can see i mean it's also clever because you

can manipulate the markets to force you to watch

it. If you really give a damn about the playoffs

but at the same time is that most of us don't

care to it or. They're not even taking consideration

the people that are in their 60s 70s and 80s

that still are functional human beings that can

still get around and They're just not as tech

savvy. They don't have computers or they don't

use computers as much I know I have to help my

folks in their 60s with computers and smartphones

and stuff because they don't understand what

they're doing and you're trying to tell these

people, oh, you're going to have to go to streaming

services when they're used to their analog antennas

or their cable. It's just I know that also causes

problems. Well, you know, you mentioned about

the NFL and Paramount and streaming exclusive

games on streaming, sir. And I know Steve doesn't

give a rip about this and honestly, I don't anymore

either because well, you know what I'm going

to bring up. Yes. I've been out of this since

right before the pandemic, but WWE had the WWE

network. Okay, fine. Yes. It's another streaming

service. Whatever. It's another cost. Whatever.

He had that for years. And then they sold out

to Peacock, NBC, Comcast, whatever. And now.

You're gonna completely remove Monday Night Raw

from actual televised television and put it on

Netflix. They just decided I'm like wait what?

Nope, not uh -uh It's wrong. I mean No matter

which way you spin it the fact that they're going

about that way it is wrong it I mean there's

In some ways, in my opinion, there is still a

corporate obligation to make sure everybody has

fair access to a product. But a lot nowadays,

they don't like the money and they don't understand

why. Then they start losing money. And then we

get the waterworks of boo hoo hoo. I'm going

broke and I don't understand why. And then thinking

to myself, because you guys kicked yourself in

the nards. Pretty much. One of the things I will

champion all the time now, even though it is

online, is TubiTV. It's free. Until they do away

with it, because a lot of those free ones are

run by the paid services. So, like, Amazon runs

a program called FreeVee. FreeVee, yeah. And

they're doing away with that in April. Are they

really? Yes. I remember when that debuted where

they're like, look, it's FreeVee, it's this,

it's that. And again... So it's funny because

they they framed it in such a way that they're

like They're like we're going to have you know,

all of this stuff and they mention it for like

Advertisers because I'm in that kind of world

now Amazon's like oh sign up for it because you'll

get it with your advertising package, you know,

blah, blah, blah. And people will see it. And

it's like, well, no, they won't because you're

getting rid of it. I had a coworker today that

was telling me and I didn't have a chance to

substantiate it, but I will say it that apparently

like Verizon, because of this whole weird thing

going on with Disney Plus and Hulu. Verizon to

cover their cost or some is going to be charging

people four more dollars unless they upgrade

their plans now. I like, why do we keep price

gouging? I'm like, this has got to stop at some

point. So this is from CNET. As you were talking

about this to just substantiate it, Verizon price

increase while your phone bill may be higher,

blah, blah, blah. Starting March 1st, Verizon

customers on select. Older unlimited mobile plans

will see a monthly plan increase of four dollars

per line effective in their next billing cycle

I'm looking for the other Yeah, it's mainly for

their plan. It's for their actual phone plans.

It's not to do streaming stuff I don't think

interesting. It was strange to me because I had

got that from Coworker and I said well, I'm gonna

have to read more into this because it was like

That's really awkward if that's really the case.

Yeah. So the, and again, folks, this article

from CNET will be in the show notes because I'll

put it in there, but it continues to say the

move is the latest rise in price increase with

the carrier previously raising rates on some

of its older unlimited plans last summer. Also

adding in new fees for other plans in 2022, it

raised the prices on its shared data plans. And

that previously got a rate hike will not be seeing

another increase with this move. As with its

other price increases, the move seems designed

to push users to switch to some of its recent

my plan, quote unquote, my plan, unlimited plans.

So basically what, again, what they're telling

us is if you've been a Verizon customer for the

last decade and you're on an old unlimited plan,

so you have unlimited minutes or unlimited data

or unlimited, whatever you're going to get charged.

There's three or four more bucks just because

you have that old plan where it is. Let's get

you on a new plan, blah, blah, blah. Well, if

you're going to put me on a new plan and I'm

not with Verizon at all, so I can. Oh, really?

I'm not with Verizon. Hell no. I'm so used to

everybody being on that stuff. I use boost because

it's cheap. If I. Use Xfinity Comcast because

it was built in in 2021 when I had to move and

had to change everything out of both mine and

Karen's name into just my name. So I stayed with

Xfinity. I got a Pixel 6 Pro and I've just been

with Xfinity this whole time for mobile. I haven't

been a Verizon customer since I think 2007 maybe.

No, but the point is, is they're doing what I

was saying earlier about, Oh, old customers,

new customers, blah, blah, blah. Here's how we're

going to reward your loyalty. We're going to

increase the prices on you and not give you any

deals. That's essentially what this reads to

me as they want the older plans to be upgraded

to the recent, my plan, unlimited plans. Unlimited

Ultimate, Unlimited Plus, and Unlimited Welcome.

These new plans don't come with included streaming

services like the Disney Bundle or International

Data Roaming Days, but instead lets you add them

as a $10 per month per... No! Oh my God, Verizon,

no, don't, and stop! Oh my God! The more you

know! Does your head hurt yet? My eyes are about

to start twitching. It's not even Dragon Lair

night, folks. We're on Altered Geek. This is

Steve's show. My eyes are about to start twitching.

Oh my god. So funny story with my internet company,

Cox Cable. Oh boy. I had them for about nine

years. The name speaks for itself. COX Thank

you very much. I know that's the same thing with

like com or with Hasbro CEO. Oh, even worse.

So I was with them for eight years. I had their

giga speed internet garbage. Never had a gigabyte

internet speed. My download speed was or upload

speed was only 15 download maybe. Got up to three

hundred. I call all the time and complain. I

go out. They do something and it would work for

like two, three days and nights to get close

to a gig. And then suddenly it was gone again.

And there's brand new connections. They ran a

line directly to my computer from outside. So

there was no splitters or anything. And every

time someone's wrong, oh, well, we're going to

have to come in your house and we're going to

have to charge you money to come in. I said,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I am supposed

to get guaranteed Internet service. It comes

in from the wall. You go out and check the poll.

And then every time I complain, a couple of days

would be fine. Well, what made it worse is I'd

been with them for a while, so they start taking

off all these promotion plans and didn't offer

me anything. They call me to just say, hey, we

want to add cable to your thing. They wouldn't

offer me anything for my Internet. And then they

started throwing in data caps, which I became

a full time content creator. as well. And next

thing you know, I'm getting these extra bills

and like, what the hell? Data caps? So I had

to call them and then pay an extra $70 a month

for them to remove it. So by the time I was done

just paying for Internet with Cox, I was paying

$180 a month. And I was fed up, not surprised.

So, yeah, I was at Sam's Club. AT &T, which I

know can be a garbage company depending on where

you're at. I think it was Ruggles who said he

had a hard time with AT &T. AT &T does suck.

I would take Comcast and a heartbeat over them.

Yeah. And so they said $81 will offer you one

gig upload, one gig download. I said, really?

$81, data caps? No. I made the switch immediately.

And I have had working internet for three years

here, maintaining the same level of speeds unless

we get a terrible storm. And the day I called

Cox, they said, please, please don't leave us.

What can we do? What can we do? They called me

eight times. I kid you not at work. What can

we do? What can we do? We'll take $10 off. I

said. You guys should have been working with

me since day one. I've been a loyal customer

and you're like, well, yeah, but and they're

just they're right. And that's something that

I have a big proponent of is honor the ones that

have built you. Like I work in marketing now,

like I understand it, but I also understand the

consumer standpoint. It's like. Give, at least

if you're going to raise the price, give some

other added perks that are actually helpful.

Comcast, they raised the price. They're like,

well, we have a rewards program. And I'm like,

yeah, for raffles to get stuff. I'm like, that

does nothing for me. I'm like, and they're like,

well, we have, you know, blah, blah, blah. And

I'm like, your stuff is garbage. I'm like, that's

why I'm enrolled. It's like, it's not useful

at all. And like, you know, or throw your customers

a bone, you know, instead of waiting until their

promotion ends, be like, hey, we got this new

promo. Would you like to sign up for it? Sure.

You know, because then if they yeah, because

then if they offer you the new promo that will

hang around for another. Yeah, that locks you

in for another two or three years because you

have a better price. Well, and you're like, sign

me up. Well, and this is the thing Comcast is

like. pretty much the only game in town that's

actually worth signing up for. We've got like

CenturyLink and some other ones that are crap

around here. And there's municipal ones now popping

up all over the place. And that's one thing I

got to give the local government. They do not

put up with companies BS when it comes to their

price hikes and monopolies, especially out here.

And so some of the local towns have built their

own ISPs, like they're their own internet service

providers and their services run by the city,

which, okay, like it's debatable because, you

know, it's government run. So, but it's not like

they can't get their grubby hands in Comcast

pocket either. Right. So, but they have a one

time, you know, it's like a one. one cost per

month, doesn't go up, doesn't go down fee for

the internet. It's gig up and gig down for home

users. For businesses, it's like 10 up and 10

down. It's run by the local governments. My town

does not have it. I've been in communication,

however, with the town over that does have it.

I actually met one of the reps at a marketing

meeting a week or two ago. And I said, you know,

it'd be really nice if you guys got that out

here because I hate Comcast. And they're like,

and I said, you know, what a lot of people don't

understand is yeah, they give you decent download

speeds. Like Comcast, I get 220 or something

megabyte download speeds. My upload speeds are

10. It's like it should, it should parallel itself.

Like it should be uniform across the board because

Even if your download speeds are fast, if your

communication upward is not, it makes no lick

of difference. I think it's like 70 bucks a month

to get the gig up and down. I would honestly

sign up for it if it was out here. I pay 50 bucks

a month for what I got. because Comcast is like,

yeah, that's the best we can do unless you get

cable. And I'm like, I don't want cable. Yeah.

They're like, well, what about a phone? I'm like,

dude, I'm paying like 20 bucks a month per line

for unlimited data on my phone lines. I'm not

switching. Like. It's like there's literally

no package you can offer me other than just giving

me a discounted Internet price because your guys

service sucks. Like, I mean, don't get me wrong,

it does work. But for the speed disparity, like

the difference in the upload and download speed

for what we're paying, it's kind of ridiculous

because it's not keeping track with, you know,

modern Internet society. Absolutely. Yeah. And

they really don't. They don't understand that,

and that's they don't care. No, I mean, I was

with Progressive for six years and I just signed

up with them because. You know, the sad part

is all insurance companies suck. And one way

or another, it's like I fire them. I was with

progressive though for six years. And I got tired

of them raising rates every year and they couldn't

find me any price breaks or anything. And that

point, I just said, guys, I'm out. That was the

first time it's like. OK, thank you. Bye. And

I'm just thinking to myself. Wow! Yeah, they're

not any more loyal to you than you are to them.

They do not care. And that is why I don't believe

anymore in the whole stick and brand loyalty

is just garbage. Now, I will say this, if you're

dealing with small businesses and not a corporate

conglomerate, you're more likely to get somewhere.

Correct. because I work for a local business

chain, 13 locations type thing and expanding

along the way. We do try to retain people. We

do try and throw them a bone. We do try and,

hey, we got this special or we got this thing

going on that you could actually save more if

you paid for a year in advance or things like

that. Then we're trying to educate people on

this is the value you get because some people

are just like, I don't... listen to the terms

and conditions. I don't pay attention to stuff.

You have to show them the value of why you're

paying for it. You can't just, eh, we don't care.

Show them why they need you. That's why I value

smaller businesses as opposed to bigger ones

because the bigger ones get bigger. Of course,

look at them now. They're all suffering. Which

means that it's time for the indies and the time

for the small businesses to grow and to take

them over, more or less, because they're not

in tune with the people, with the communities.

They just don't understand it. There was an article

I did see earlier out there that I think we're

getting ready to have another game drop, especially

with Sony not releasing any new major hits for

over a year now. So there's a severe drought

and they are now predicting that Gaming triple

-a games are getting ready to take a massive

crash and As you said it's time for indies. I

think you're gonna see more indies and I mean,

do you remember the 90s? We used to have like

we had broader bun. We had like, you know, like

all these Always oh there were so many different

companies that were out in the 90s that are not

here anymore like mindscapes Apogee, you know,

I mean there were so many different companies

that were producing content back in the 90s in

the the late 80s and most of them aren't around

anymore or their properties have been bought

up by bigger conglomerates and They've either

a squandered it or you know did the Disney wrote?

We're gonna reinvent it and then they destroyed

the entire essence of what it used to be And

people are like, yeah screw this noise I'll play

the old stuff, which kind of plays into the next

episode topic. Yes, yes, it will. I don't know

if it's still a case. I don't think it is. I

could be wrong. It's been 25 years since I graduated

high school from Louisville, Kentucky. Back then

in 98 and 99, when I was in junior and senior

year high school, we had a... TV show we did

in the media class and it was kind of run the

school through Intermedia Cable, which at that

time Intermedia Cable was the cable company in

Louisville Kentucky. And then it became Insight

Communications. And then Insight Communications,

guess what? Got bought up by Comcast. And now

it's all, you know, so yeah, exactly. Going from

local to mobile, it's like, It makes your head

spin. Things that make you go, hmm. It really

does. You're like, wow. Wow. There are some people

out there that don't mind bouncing around from

service to service, but I'm going to be a loyal

customer of your service like Hulu or Disney

Plus or discovery play any of them. And you have

like Disney Plus has plenty of content I want

to watch. So it's because I'm podcasting because

I'm reviewing the content or whatever, but has

plenty of content I want to watch. But it's just

like, Oh, Eventually I'll get it again next week

or whatever the hell it is. But it's like, yeah,

I just wish we had one platform where everything

could just be. Aren't you platforms where it's

not whatever, but it's never going to be that

way again, because you have all these companies.

But I can, if that paramount peacock thing happens,

like I said at the beginning of the show, as

long as it's still covered under my Walmart plus

description, that's all I care about. If that

happens though, that's going to be crazy. It's

going to be a game breaker in my opinion. It's

essentially NBC and CBS teaming up to try to

take Disney down. Yeah, and Disney's already

been getting a lot of kicks to the face lately,

so this is just another one that they get. I

hear some of the Disney... I just think AI is

going to save Disney. Disney needs a like enema

at this point. Disney needs a vision and they

haven't seen a vision. That's because they've

been buying the vision. They don't understand.

They buy the visions. They don't understand what

to do with it when they have it. No, they don't.

And that's why I haven't been a subscriber to

Disney Plus. I think what did it for me was when

I saw what Disney Plus was doing behind the scenes

with like the Gina Corona thing, which I didn't

really care. Much at first, but just the internal

harassment you were seeing on Twitter Twitter

by employees and stuff and just it's just really

weird. the situation that you that I saw on there

because I was, you know, I eavesdrop on those

channels or those Twitter's because I'm always

curious. Well, what's going to happen next? And.

I found it fascinating that that was the direction

suddenly everybody was going with it. And I was

like. This is crazy that all this drama is just

non -stop happening because There's this weird

How do I want to put it? I almost want to call

it. We're trying to kiss People's butts as much

as we can Under the false pretext. I'm choosing

my words carefully here. Um under a false pretext,

and they have alienated all their main loyal

viewers that they've had for a very long time.

When you alienate viewers and things like that,

Kyle, look at your watch. Look at my watch. What's

your watch say? When you alienate viewers and

things like that. I set the zero on the give

a shit meter. Huh? That's right. Absolutely.

If you're gonna alienate us, why would we give

two craps? The genochrono thing was crazy and

still like, no, don't harass people at work at

all. Don't harass people in general. Like, oh

my God, just so much. I didn't understand that

craziness. I still to this day don't. I mean,

I wish I wish I could say yeah, I I understand

it. I Don't I don't understand why we can't just

enjoy movies have a love and passion for the

stuff we used to love That I mean that's yeah,

and I don't know if it's just There's so much

bad stuff going on in the world that Everybody

just needs to find something to gripe about and

turn on each other. I don't understand it because

All the stuff that we had was supposed to be

an escapism Absolutely, that's what I was just

going to say entertainment is an escape It's

supposed to be entertaining. Yeah, it's not real

life. It's it was never In the hundred plus years

entertainment, any form of entertainment has

been around. It's never been about real life.

And these and that, my friend, is where I'm lost.

I don't understand it. I truly do not, because

there used to be a thing. Loyalty, even in a

job market where you work, there's no such thing

as loyalty anymore. People used to work for a

company and had the Old I almost want to say

the old 80s well even before then kind of the

Baby boomer spirit as much as I hate using that

word Where you know companies took care of you

you took care of the companies everybody was

happy Life was all hunky -dory and all that And

even entertainment, you come home, you watch

the stuff. It was great. Roll forward 50, 40,

50, 60 years. It's changed. Now there's no loyalty.

Corporations just will smack you around and act

like they own you and control your life, which

let's look at streaming services again on this.

Netflix with Back to the Future. I know I bring

this up, but that's one of the best examples

that I remember was the ooh la la scene where

they basically rewrote that script because they

were like, you know what? Ooh la la seems like

it's a bad thing. Don't know how that seems like

it's a bad thing. It's a What is this steve like

what would you say like under two seconds? It's

barely memorable I mean, I we all remember it

because we all look back to the future because

we're all geeks but Generally somebody watching

that movie. That's not the scene that they are

gonna pick out the you know, uh It's just not

kind of thing, you know, correct It's it's so

minuscule and the fact that Netflix had to feel

like they needed to do exterior No, don't and

again, that's changing somebody's art Yes, it

is like that's not no don't do that It was to

me it was morally wrong Absolutely, I'm it's

like why would you do this knowing what you know

now And I love how Netflix. It's like, we're

so sorry. We're so sorry. And they start trying

to backtrack on it. In my opinion, this is where.

Consumers should just give them the middle finger.

Just like when Netflix keeps raising the prices,

Disney Plus has raised prices. And I know at

some point I'm going to just start cutting everything.

Again. Something we've talked about and we will

get more Most likely next week because this show

started off on a weird way this week But we will

get more all about Kai next week and I in episode

428 but on His show the Dragonslayer over on

Kai dragon media on YouTube youtube .com slash

Kai dragon media You've been talking about physical

versus digital media for the last two and a half

three months because If I could get physical

copies, like I just said earlier in the show,

if I could get physical copies of Six Underground

and the Atom Project, I don't need Netflix. There's

nothing on Netflix right now that I feel like

I absolutely have to watch. It's just... Yeah,

I mean, and it's hit or miss for me. Like, I'm...

I'm kind of of that mentality of, you know, I'll

find something. But it shouldn't have to. No,

you should never have to. I can find something,

sure. But do I really want to? But yeah, I mean,

I've I've got a decent amount of stuff I'll watch

on Netflix for the most part. But even then,

like it's. It's still kind of hit or miss. I'll

watch it, but. It's more so because I have access

to it, and then I like some of the previews of

some of the shows I've gotten. So, yeah, I mean,

that's been nice. But on a whole, like, I don't

have a ton that I just have to go after. I think

the other problem, too, when you look at the

overall situation with streaming services, Is

they try to do all these adaptations are they

tried they tried. To jump into things that they

clearly have no idea what to do and think of

how much money netflix is lost with cowboy b

bop when they tried to that adaptation and then.

How was that other one i did one piece surprisingly

successful because. It was actually controlled

by japan they made sure it was not too far from

the content. But there was another one that was

just got awful. And I heard Avatar from what

I've heard, just surfing critics. It's. That's

not looking very promising either. And you pay

all this money for these licensing rights to

that. Oh, Naruto is going to be now a live action

first streaming service. I don't know which one.

I saw that and I was like, no. Just no, please.

No, I get Dragon Ball evolution flashbacks. I'm

just like, I'm just like, God, no, please. No,

no. That's the crazy thing. Yeah, absolutely.

You're absolutely right. And that's the crazy

thing. Steve, OK, we kind of saw it and I know

Kai likes it and I know I kind of like it and

you're kind of whatever. Really, you go back

nearly 30 years. Do you ever think we would see

a Beast Wars live action anything based on the

actual cartoon? Not really. I mean, I've seen

it pop back up in other places. Right, but my

point is, like Kai's talking about with Naruto

and Cowboy Bebop and everything else, these things

started as cartoons or anime or whatever the

hell you want to call it. They started as...

different type of medium and then they wanted

to bring it into light like Aladdin's a perfect

example I haven't seen the live -action Aladdin

I have no interest in seeing live -action Aladdin

I'm not making any judgments against the film

or or against the film because I haven't seen

it but I'm just saying Aladdin animation sure

cool awesome Aladdin in live -action why do we

need that Why what was the purpose of in the

same thing with? I am perfectly fine with certain

things being in form of medium of media and entertainment

I do not a lot of comic books that I've read

that I would love to see animated adaptations

to or something like that, but You know, it's

probably never gonna happen and I'm perfectly

fine because I can go read the comic That's where

it's great. That's where it excels. Oh It's I

don't know it just Tired guys. I'm just tired

of media Hard of it all it's called a fatigue

It's just and these streaming services adaptations.

They're just trying so hard to Build some type

of franchise. I mean don't get me wrong. I liked

When Netflix had control of Marvel and they did

Daredevil and Jessica Jones, I really liked those.

I thought they did good. I was disappointed in

the Defenders mostly because I felt like it ended

too, it just was not. It was too short. It wasn't

long enough. It didn't tell the whole, it didn't

have enough breathing room for the story that

it wanted to tell. That was the problem with

Defenders. Yes. And then we can bring up. Tired

fist that was just He's intentionally doing it

now folks and if you watch the dragon's lair

you'll understand because my eyes just It's a

toy cheese. Yeah very much so Are you feeling

it? I twitching fist Everyone's eye twitched

on that. Everyone's eye twitched on that. And

it's like, what were they thinking? And then

you got to realize, oh, they weren't thinking.

I mean, I really think, and the only reason why

I think this is because it was a cool way to

do the commercial. There's a trailer for the

defenders where they use, uh, Cool. Is it all

apologies or come as you are? They use a nirvana.

I have the trailer. Anyway, there's a trailer

for Defenders where you have Luke Cage and Danny

Rand. What's the deal with that fist? What's

the deal where they're talking about each other?

That was cool. That was interesting. That is

about as interested as I was ever in Iron Fist

before and or after his show. That was it. Just

for that. I'm fleeting moment. But yeah, I don't

know. It's gone. That fleeting moment was gone.

Absolutely. Steve, anything else for you? No,

I think that I think that we're just going to

hit that threshold now at this point that. You

know, things are going to start winding down

for some of these services. Yeah, I think a lot

of them will start end up going belly up. It's

a matter of time. Yep. It's just a matter of

time for a lot of them just shutter everything

down and say, yep, we're wrong. We're wrong.

Sorry. And then they just scrap it all. Yep.

It's going to be belly up and you get no bar.

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