Physical vs. Digital Libraries

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Hey, this is Steve Bloom, and you are listening

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to the Geekcast Radio Network. Hello and welcome

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to Altered Geek. I'm your host, Steve Megatron,

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and joining me on this adventure into geekdom

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is TFG1 Mike. Yo, are you on the mic with Mike?

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Yep, we are. Yep, we are. So today, we're going

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to be covering a topic instead of random geeky

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news stories. That's right. And on this one,

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I know we kind of teased on the last one doing

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the blockbuster or the home video. It's going

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to lead into that. It'll lead into that, but

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this kind of... fits with where we are as a culture

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at this point. It's physical media versus digital

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libraries. Yeah. I used to have a ton of physical

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media. I kind of have a new collection. So since,

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I want to say, yeah, 2021. So for the last five

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years, I've been building up a new digital, not

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new physical media collection, but somewhere

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around 2011, 2012, I sold all my physical stuff.

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Something happened. I was moving. I was whatever.

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And I just didn't have wherever I was moving

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to at the time did not have room to take it with

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me. I will send you a photo. I've shared the

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photo with you, but I'll send you a photo to

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put in the post. I'm looking at my original 2010

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era dresser and. Three media bookcases that at

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the time my mom had purchased for me because

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we were living together at the time. And literally

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this thing has it's got an animation shelf, a

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TV show shelf and a film shelf. So three separate

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black media cabinet cases. It's the it's the

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ones you buy anywhere. It's the. Media tower

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things. Uh, it's the, they're black lacquer that

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you can put them together. They're not lacquer,

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but they're the, the fakie wood stuff that you

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can build media shelves with. And when I put

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these together back then, I knew at the time

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that the, I wanted three sections, one for animation,

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one for TV shows and one for movies, because

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back then I didn't have the biggest collection

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in the world, obviously. But I wanted to separate

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them out into, as I just said, cartoons, TV,

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and live action. And it worked for the longest

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time. And I think by 2010, it was... easy enough

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to where we were living to where i you know to

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where the apartment we were living in these were

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on top of my dresser in my bedroom they were

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out of sight out of mind and by the time we were

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moving oh what it had i know what had happened

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was uh it was 2012 that i had to sell these mom

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moved back up to massachusetts So I had to find

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a new and different apartment. So I just couldn't

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take them with me and I needed the money to move.

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So back then in those times, DVDs specifically,

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I had not made the, because this was still around

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the time I think of the HD DVD, Blu -ray, HD,

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it was the HD DVD, Blu -ray war, which one will

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win? Obviously Blu -ray won. but it was around

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that time and i was just like i think i took

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it all to the pawn shop and i'm like what are

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you gonna give me for all this and they're like

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as long as the discs are in good condition you'll

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get whatever i don't even know what i got for

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the whole thing and i just wasn't i was just

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kind of out of physical media at the time i was

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at this point in 2010 i was Four years into using

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iTunes because I started using iTunes in 2006.

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So I was mostly buying music on iTunes. I was

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buying some TV shows, some movies, and I do still

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have my iTunes library of movies and TV shows.

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But for me. I don't know. I just ended up watching

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whatever was on YouTube or if we ever needed

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anything, I would find it digitally somewhere.

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It just wasn't. I just didn't need to have the

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stuff because after mom had moved back up north.

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In 2010, I had to then bring her back down to

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Kentucky in 2012. That's what that was. And we

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kept moving and moving and moving. And then she

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passed in 2015. And I still was moving and moving

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and moving. And I just didn't have any. By that

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point in 2015, I was all digital. Just everything

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digital. Whether it was Amazon, whether it was

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Netflix, whether it was Hulu, doesn't matter

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what it was, whatever was around back then, whatever

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digital storefront I had, whatever, I just was,

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oh, just didn't need the physical stuff anymore.

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Does that mean I don't have an appreciation for

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physical media? Hell no. It was just an inconvenience

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to... lug around three giant shelves of physical

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media stuff for as much as I was moving from

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place to place to place. So that's my then media

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story. What's your media story in the past before

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we get to the current day situation? funny you

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mentioned this i was going through various documents

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i found a version of this document it's not the

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most recent copy that i made i just i don't know

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where it's at it's probably on a hard drive somewhere

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my current dvd collection is very small at present

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it didn't used to be i remember yeah i remember

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this list yes When I was when I was a kid, I

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had a ton of VHS tapes and actually I still had

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them up through working at Little Caesars. In

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the early mid part of the 2000s before before

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2010, like before we started podcasting, I I

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had. I had sold my VCR and all the VHS tapes

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and. To somebody I worked with because I was

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like, I'm getting invested in DVDs. I don't I

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don't want any more of these. They take up twice

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the amount of space or three times the amount,

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depending. And then. I also like the fact I didn't

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have to rewind them. I had a ton of cartoon series,

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like if I go back to my my Amazon dot com history

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from when we first got Amazon. I had bought all

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of Animaniacs, Pinky and the Brain, Batman Beyond.

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No, I had Batman Beyond Return of the Joker.

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I never had the series of it. I had Batman the

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Animated Series, albeit briefly. I think I had

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the separated discs of the seasons for that one.

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I had The Critic. beast wars from before shop

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factory it was rhino i had rhinos uh beast machines

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which actually i still have that i don't have

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the shop factory beast machines i have uh the

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ones from rhino still because i was comparing

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features and i was like the rhino ones were superior

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uh so i stuck with those and didn't worry about

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it i used to have a bunch of g1 i used to have

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animated i used to have a bunch of dc related

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stuff Never had any Marvel, unless you count

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like, well, technically I did, because I had

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this massive list of TV shows and movies years

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ago, and I clocked it at like 1 ,300 total DVDs.

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Wow. And 22 Blu -rays at the time. And so I had

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like, some of these were review stuff that I

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got too. So like I had All -Star Superman. Blu

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-ray. Not one I paid for. It was just one that

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was sent to me from Warner Brothers, and I reviewed

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that. A ton of Adam Sandler stuff. I had Toy

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Story 3. I had various Transformers live -action

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movies. I had WALL -E. I had Star Trek movies,

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Spider -Man movies, Iron Man, the Dark Knight

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stuff. I still have my Back to the Future Blu

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-rays. Those were the only Blu -rays I'd kept

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at the time. At this point, I have some again,

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but it's definitely a small list of Blu -rays.

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I have more DVDs still than Blu -ray at this

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point. I had a lot of TV series collections.

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I had Weird Al Live, the concert DVD I had. some

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of the whose line is it anyway had full house

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which i gave to my brother -in -law and he still

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has and it's still in the shrink wrap uh like

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i bought all eight seasons separately and now

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i'm like kicking myself because i'm like like

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i could have watched those i have boy meets world

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the complete series uh but they were so that's

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the funny thing is back then if you were trying

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to get a complete series before they came out

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You got whatever somebody recorded off TV and

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burned to a disc. So I actually have a DVD set

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of Boy Meets World better recorded from somebody.

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Oh, geez. Which I paid for. It was like 40 bucks

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at the time. And I was like, oh, that's not bad.

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And it was like an eBay buy. And and I bought

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some like some of those ABC family movies that

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never made it to disc for like five bucks from

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certain websites. Can't remember anymore. But

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there were movies that. my wife liked, and I

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was like, I'm going to get this movie. So I had

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those. I had a bunch of animated stuff. It turns

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out I did have Batman Beyond, now that I'm looking

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at my list. I had Darkwing Duck. I had the Flintstones.

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I had Freakazoid. I had Futurama. I had G .I.

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Joe. I had Reboot, which that one I'm kicking

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myself a little bit because I got that one for

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review, and it would be nice to go back. yeah

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that one I'm kicking myself a little bit over

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I had a Rocko's Modern Life season one I had

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Swat Cats the animated movie which I did keep

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that disc and I had season one of G1 and I have

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the 4k blu -ray of G1 now at this point for the

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movie yeah I never owned this is this is the

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funny thing I never owned Batman Mask of the

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Phantasm on DVD or Blu -ray. I do now. I bought

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the 4K one and I was like, OK, this holds a special

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relevance for me. My first movie in theater.

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And I have that. I have Justice League Unlimited

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on Blu -ray. I have Justice League on DVD. Because

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it's not on Blu -ray. Which is weird. It's weird.

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Batman Beyond with Return of the Joker on Blu

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-ray is coming. and then I got like the like

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the Spider -Man Tobey Maguire trilogy because

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they're like they've got all these different

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Marvel ones that are like all bundled together

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based on the trilogy or you know like all the

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Avengers movies or all the Iron Man movies or

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all these different ones and so now I'm kind

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of like waiting for price drops and stuff but

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I had all the Adam Sandler movies up to that

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point I had Steve Martin movies I had I had G

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.I. Joe, the movie. Nice, nice. Both Rhino and

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Shop Factory. I had some of the Green Lantern

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stuff. OK, so it turns out I did have Mask of

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the Phantasm. Unless I was counting. I wonder

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if I was counting a digital file. I don't know.

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It's hard to say. I had Resolute, had a ton of.

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I broke them down by family movies, by holidays,

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by saga movies, which is more or less if it had

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more than one movie in the series. The Batman

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films, Bill and Ted, Blade, The Bourne movies,

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Die Hard, Fantastic Four, The National Lampoon,

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Police Academy, X -Men, MNT, Star Wars, Star

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Trek, Ace Ventura. I had those. I had a ton of

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comedy movies. Had a ton of action. Had a ton

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of horror, which I don't miss those. A bunch

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of drama stuff and Disney movies. And then we

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bought this Disney treasure chest off eBay. Yep.

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And it had like 133 discs in this thing. Nice.

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And what's funny is the case, like everything

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on them, like they were written in Chinese. So

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it's like, you couldn't read it, but if you knew

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what the picture was, if you knew what the picture

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was, you could get on the, you know, you could,

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you knew what you were watching and, and then

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you just put it in the Blu -ray or the DVD player

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at the time. And it would, it was, they'd play

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fine. Uh, they were in English. So it was just,

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they were bootlegs. And I didn't know that. Uh,

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but I guess what should have tipped me off is,

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uh, in addition to the Disney stuff, like we

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had Tom and Jerry in there. Jesus a ton of Tom

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and Jerry among other stuff so it was just it

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was kind of funny but yeah I had like this huge

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plethora of it and when we moved from Michigan

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we actually that's when we offloaded majority

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of the stuff like give it to my brother give

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it to her brother give it you know sold some

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of it I traded some of it in some of it I was

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like I have not even watched this disc ever past

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the shrink wrap or like this, this particular

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part of it kind of ties into the movie stores

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is when like a Hollywood video or a jumbo video

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or family video or blockbuster would go out of

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business or they'd sell discs at dirt cheap pricing.

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That's when we'd stock up. Oh, yeah, that's that's

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always a good thing. Yeah. It was it was funny

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because like the amount of movies we would pick

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up at these these going out of business sales

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because they were like 75 percent off. Yeah.

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We would be walking around with like 70 discs

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in our hand. Both my wife and I separately. Yeah.

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And oh, yeah, absolutely. People would come up

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to us and think we work there. Yeah. Because

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the amount of discs we were carrying. So it was

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just it was humorous. So. Yeah, I mean, I miss

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some of it. I don't miss the storage of it, like

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the space that it physically took up, because

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it was literally a whole bookcase. But if I could

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go back, I would still probably keep half of

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the collection, at least, of stuff that we actually

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watched. Because I would prefer to have it than

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stream. right i understand and i and i i somewhat

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agree for the most part i see the storage part

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is the interesting thing to me because over the

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last five years i have bought two separate they're

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not equally the same i don't think but they kind

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of are i bought two separate cd dvd blah blah

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blah giant 130 disc wallet cd wallet holder thing

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you know what i'm talking about right yeah so

00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:18.380
the discs are protected and i have access to

00:18:18.380 --> 00:18:23.740
them and i can go and open them up and flip through

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them and figure out what i want to watch without

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having to either have the cases displayed like

00:18:32.529 --> 00:18:35.930
i used to like i can just throw the throw the

00:18:35.930 --> 00:18:40.269
the cases in in storage like if you look at that

00:18:40.269 --> 00:18:43.970
photo the old photo i used to proudly display

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them and that's great and whatever else and everything

00:18:46.369 --> 00:18:49.849
else but ain't nobody really over here ain't

00:18:49.849 --> 00:18:52.109
nobody really looking at them but me and the

00:18:52.109 --> 00:18:55.710
funny thing about my story is by the time i ended

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up having to move after mom left and went back

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up north in 2012 and right before i sold the

00:19:03.289 --> 00:19:07.170
whole damn thing i got so sick of looking at

00:19:07.170 --> 00:19:10.609
all these damn things trying to decide what i

00:19:10.609 --> 00:19:13.329
wanted to watch oh yeah like the the fatigue

00:19:13.329 --> 00:19:16.329
of it yeah the fatigue of oh my god what am i

00:19:16.329 --> 00:19:18.589
gonna watch now what am i gonna watch now and

00:19:18.589 --> 00:19:22.839
it's like hmm i don't know And it's but it was.

00:19:22.859 --> 00:19:25.480
Yeah, I mean, I can totally relate to that because

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there were there were times where I would literally,

00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:29.220
you know, like, what do you want to watch? I

00:19:29.220 --> 00:19:30.960
don't know. Like and I would grab the same like

00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:34.700
50 discs like time and time again. Like I would

00:19:34.700 --> 00:19:39.019
cycle through them because. I see. And this is

00:19:39.019 --> 00:19:42.079
the this is the thing that kind of sucks in my

00:19:42.079 --> 00:19:45.640
regard. I can watch a movie once, maybe twice.

00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:48.980
I can tell exactly what you're watching the next

00:19:48.980 --> 00:19:51.140
time I walk in the room and I see even a fraction

00:19:51.140 --> 00:19:55.440
of it. I can barely hear it I can barely see

00:19:55.440 --> 00:20:00.859
it I know what you're watching and I like we

00:20:00.859 --> 00:20:04.779
were literally putting we were tearing apart

00:20:04.779 --> 00:20:07.839
a weight machine at somebody's house that my

00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:13.079
wife bought for her home gym and I heard Star

00:20:13.079 --> 00:20:16.839
Trek The Next Generation playing upstairs and

00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:22.329
I figured it out by the sound by the music by

00:20:22.329 --> 00:20:26.250
the vocals and then i was getting close to figuring

00:20:26.250 --> 00:20:30.990
out what season and then i was and then because

00:20:30.990 --> 00:20:33.710
i've watched every episode all i needed was a

00:20:33.710 --> 00:20:36.490
little bit like i couldn't hear enough to be

00:20:36.490 --> 00:20:40.640
able to piece what episode your wife's like we

00:20:40.640 --> 00:20:42.420
gotta hurry we gotta get out of here before he

00:20:42.420 --> 00:20:44.799
figures it out well and she told them while she

00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:46.519
was like carrying some of the stuff out she's

00:20:46.519 --> 00:20:48.519
like you're watching uh are you watching star

00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:51.039
trek uh and they're like yeah how'd you know

00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:53.319
and she's like he's down there trying to guess

00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:57.940
the episode exactly yeah um it's like as soon

00:20:57.940 --> 00:21:01.390
as i hear One shall stand, one shall fall. I

00:21:01.390 --> 00:21:04.670
know exactly why I throw away your life so recklessly,

00:21:04.970 --> 00:21:08.289
like verbatim. I know exactly what it's going

00:21:08.289 --> 00:21:15.430
to be. It's like. But yeah, like, I mean. As

00:21:15.430 --> 00:21:17.789
far as the as far as the discs in the display,

00:21:17.970 --> 00:21:19.690
like I actually found something out recently

00:21:19.690 --> 00:21:25.210
that. People are discovering with audio CDs and

00:21:25.210 --> 00:21:31.299
to some degree DVDs. The original cases that

00:21:31.299 --> 00:21:34.920
they're they're purchased in actually help preserve

00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:40.380
them. Oh, no. Yeah. Because I've seen cases of

00:21:40.380 --> 00:21:45.700
it, of where the disc starts to rot. Yeah. Yeah.

00:21:46.740 --> 00:21:51.799
Yeah. So I have a I have a old weird LCD. And

00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:54.539
it's not in the jewel case anywhere. Like I took

00:21:54.539 --> 00:21:57.940
the. the cover and i put it in like a clear plastic

00:21:57.940 --> 00:22:01.859
one like it's not the original yeah and because

00:22:01.859 --> 00:22:04.420
it's not the original that's like perfectly sealed

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and you know preserved in there and it's like

00:22:06.539 --> 00:22:11.119
a cheap case um it it's like almost translucent

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in certain areas and there's a couple of other

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dvds i've had this problem with too like even

00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:17.700
new ones like i bought a little house on the

00:22:17.700 --> 00:22:20.799
prairie for the the family like last year and

00:22:20.799 --> 00:22:24.509
a couple of the discs do not want to play in

00:22:24.509 --> 00:22:28.869
my blu -ray like certain episodes like certain

00:22:28.869 --> 00:22:31.970
spots of the disc don't work and it's because

00:22:31.970 --> 00:22:37.430
the discs are old right and they don't like because

00:22:37.430 --> 00:22:41.529
it's it's definitely like an older uh box set

00:22:41.529 --> 00:22:43.789
that like walmart had and it was like on clearance

00:22:43.789 --> 00:22:45.710
or something and i bought it and i was like oh

00:22:45.710 --> 00:22:48.390
it's not bad and i get looking at it and i'm

00:22:48.390 --> 00:22:53.579
like oh this this is why but um So, yeah, like

00:22:53.579 --> 00:22:59.359
I and yeah, this is like horrible to say, but

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I may or may not have had versions of the films

00:23:03.619 --> 00:23:08.880
that did not come with a original case. Yeah,

00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:17.480
that were in binders like that. And those like

00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:20.880
and there's still some of my possession that.

00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:25.900
exist uh my brother ended up with most of them

00:23:25.900 --> 00:23:30.039
because one i was like i started discovering

00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:32.980
the discs were going bad like burn cds go bad

00:23:32.980 --> 00:23:37.799
way faster than oh yeah factory burned so i i

00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:39.700
learned that years ago and i was like well there's

00:23:39.700 --> 00:23:43.559
really no point in dealing with this um so i

00:23:43.559 --> 00:23:45.980
i stopped doing that but i had binders full of

00:23:45.980 --> 00:23:50.220
these things like um bootleg movie stuff and

00:23:51.619 --> 00:23:54.380
yeah see i don't i don't do the whole bootleg

00:23:54.380 --> 00:23:58.900
thing i did for a while my somebody my family

00:23:58.900 --> 00:24:01.700
showed me how to do it and then i did it for

00:24:01.700 --> 00:24:04.259
a number of years uh just because i was broke

00:24:04.259 --> 00:24:07.819
and then like i said i started getting actual

00:24:07.819 --> 00:24:10.140
discs when places were closing down and then

00:24:10.140 --> 00:24:13.740
i was like oh okay here we go and then um mind

00:24:13.740 --> 00:24:15.640
you at the beginning of the internet like the

00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:18.900
first movie i ever like bootlegged was star trek

00:24:18.900 --> 00:24:23.200
nemesis And it was a real audio player file.

00:24:23.900 --> 00:24:27.599
Oh, wow. So it was like super crappy resolution.

00:24:28.359 --> 00:24:31.720
And I always thought that the movie just looked

00:24:31.720 --> 00:24:33.819
like crap because it was a crappy file. No, it

00:24:33.819 --> 00:24:35.460
was just because the cinematography was bad.

00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:39.799
Like I found that out later when I got the actual

00:24:39.799 --> 00:24:46.400
disc. But no, like I. Obviously, like I preferred

00:24:46.400 --> 00:24:50.180
the movies that were legit. just because i liked

00:24:50.180 --> 00:24:54.079
the box art i liked the ability to easily look

00:24:54.079 --> 00:24:56.519
at the side of the the disc and be able to tell

00:24:56.519 --> 00:25:01.359
what it was without much thought and whereas

00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:03.380
the other ones i had to cycle through but again

00:25:03.380 --> 00:25:07.000
like you said like decision fatigue like it definitely

00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:09.900
hit more often than i would have liked and i

00:25:09.900 --> 00:25:13.759
don't feel like that that's uh changed any i

00:25:13.759 --> 00:25:16.460
feel like it's it's just evolved into the current

00:25:16.460 --> 00:25:20.829
standing of What show do I want to watch? What

00:25:20.829 --> 00:25:24.150
streaming platform is it on? How many variations

00:25:24.150 --> 00:25:34.049
of it are there? I think different companies

00:25:34.049 --> 00:25:36.869
do different things with their packaging and

00:25:36.869 --> 00:25:43.710
I don't like it. The biggest culprit at least

00:25:43.710 --> 00:25:46.250
for me and I know I'm speaking away from the

00:25:46.250 --> 00:25:49.130
microphone and I have my head away from the microphone

00:25:49.130 --> 00:25:52.829
at the moment that's specifically because i'm

00:25:52.829 --> 00:26:01.470
pulling out this um this one yeah so i have the

00:26:01.470 --> 00:26:06.289
complete 2003 tv series plus movie nickelodeon

00:26:06.289 --> 00:26:09.589
and it's not just nickelodeon it's it's other

00:26:09.589 --> 00:26:12.849
things but it's the tmnt ultimate collection

00:26:12.849 --> 00:26:18.960
for the 2003 series This is a hard case box that

00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:25.000
has the discs in a hard shell and in such...

00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:28.759
Turtles. Hard shell. Yeah. Funny. Funny guy.

00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:36.480
But it has that insert where it's a one thing,

00:26:36.680 --> 00:26:40.980
six thing, seven thing hard shell where the discs,

00:26:41.019 --> 00:26:43.579
when you put them in, they overlap each other.

00:26:43.720 --> 00:26:46.329
You know which one I'm talking about? i'm sure

00:26:46.329 --> 00:26:50.029
you've seen this uh hopefully the audience has

00:26:50.029 --> 00:26:53.690
so basically you put like let's say the the first

00:26:53.690 --> 00:26:57.630
two things are disc one and disc two disc two

00:26:57.630 --> 00:27:01.309
goes in first and then disc one goes on top of

00:27:01.309 --> 00:27:05.990
it i don't like that that's stupid it is that's

00:27:05.990 --> 00:27:08.930
the stupidest thing in the world to me that that's

00:27:08.930 --> 00:27:12.730
so lame why do you have to have For a complete

00:27:12.730 --> 00:27:15.390
series set, why do you have to have something

00:27:15.390 --> 00:27:20.130
like that? Why couldn't you... And even, like,

00:27:20.170 --> 00:27:27.549
the... Get the... Even in here. Uh, Viper's complete

00:27:27.549 --> 00:27:30.890
series set has... They actually pulled it out,

00:27:30.930 --> 00:27:35.089
but, um... They have pull -out individual sleeves

00:27:35.089 --> 00:27:37.809
for their whole thing, so this thing doesn't

00:27:37.809 --> 00:27:42.640
even sit in the box. It... is actually a pull

00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:45.880
-out sleeve that fits all the discs, which is

00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:49.259
an individual sleeve that comes out. Well, then,

00:27:49.259 --> 00:27:56.380
I guess that's okay. I guess that's fine, but

00:27:56.380 --> 00:28:01.180
I don't know. It's all kinds of weird and crazy,

00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:08.480
and I just wish for somebody somewhere, some

00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:14.079
sort of... genius level IQ person to come up

00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:22.240
with an easier way for some sort of complete

00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:26.759
series DVD thing that wasn't double up discs

00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:32.480
or wasn't single sleeve stuff that would come

00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:36.119
out of big box packaging that would I don't know

00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:43.440
it's just just weird It's just crazy. Yeah, I

00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:46.079
don't... I've got a couple of TV series where

00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:51.559
there's... For instance, the Back to the Future

00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:55.539
Blu -ray, there's a digital disc in the back

00:28:55.539 --> 00:29:00.940
behind each flap, and then in front of it is

00:29:00.940 --> 00:29:06.799
the Blu -ray with the partial overlap. The the

00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:09.819
discs for the little house stuff, there's like

00:29:09.819 --> 00:29:14.119
multiple and it's like in the paper backed. Disc

00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:17.880
thing, which is why it's crappy. Compared to

00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:20.339
the other one, which is like the plastic snap

00:29:20.339 --> 00:29:25.900
cases. And then I look at a lot of my other discs,

00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:31.240
most of them. Break down rather easily with the

00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:34.440
snap case plastic, which I honestly prefer if

00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:36.369
they're going to have that. Just because the

00:29:36.369 --> 00:29:38.089
other one is just kind of feel cheap unless they've

00:29:38.089 --> 00:29:40.369
got like the kind of the jewel case thing that

00:29:40.369 --> 00:29:44.329
that kind of covers the outside of the. The entire

00:29:44.329 --> 00:29:54.730
box set, which I think is cool. But yeah. Luckily,

00:29:54.730 --> 00:30:00.029
I think because I did was this last month, when

00:30:00.029 --> 00:30:05.700
did I? Actually, I didn't order it. A buddy of

00:30:05.700 --> 00:30:11.519
mine sent it to me for Prime Day. Sent me the

00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:15.259
4K Back to the Future because during Prime Day

00:30:15.259 --> 00:30:19.539
was the 41st anniversary. Yeah, that's right.

00:30:20.180 --> 00:30:23.380
For Prime Day this year, the 41st anniversary

00:30:23.380 --> 00:30:28.559
for Back to the Future, the 4K version of it

00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:34.869
was on sale for under $25. Oh, wow. And I haven't

00:30:34.869 --> 00:30:39.470
updated my Back to the Future. I've had it on

00:30:39.470 --> 00:30:42.509
digital for years, but I haven't updated my physical

00:30:42.509 --> 00:30:47.329
copy in years. I literally think I just have.

00:30:47.529 --> 00:30:51.170
I had DVDs at one point, but I think right now,

00:30:51.170 --> 00:30:53.910
I think somewhere in my closet, somewhere, probably

00:30:53.910 --> 00:30:57.410
the original three VHSs. I don't even remember

00:30:57.410 --> 00:31:02.240
what happened to the original DVDs I had. So

00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:04.880
I have the 4K. It's in the other room. I forgot

00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:08.660
to bring it out. The 4Ks, other than I think

00:31:08.660 --> 00:31:13.680
bonus discs, are not doubled up. So you have

00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:16.680
the 4K disc on one side, because they're individual.

00:31:17.740 --> 00:31:21.579
I'm pretty sure... Yes, they are. Because I took...

00:31:21.579 --> 00:31:26.279
I'm pretty sure I took a photo of this. Pretty

00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:33.359
sure... of it. Where are... Come on back to the

00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:38.059
future. Where are you, DeLorean boy? There you

00:31:38.059 --> 00:31:49.000
are. Yeah, they are your standard. In the packaging,

00:31:49.240 --> 00:32:01.200
that's the single disc, but in the overall. This

00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:09.180
is the main box set that it comes in. But the

00:32:09.180 --> 00:32:12.140
top image I just sent is the individual disc,

00:32:12.339 --> 00:32:15.019
and I think in the individual disc for Back to

00:32:15.019 --> 00:32:18.720
the Future Part 2 is just two discs, because

00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:23.380
I don't think that one has a special disc for

00:32:23.380 --> 00:32:26.660
it. So I think it's just the 4K and the Blu -ray

00:32:26.660 --> 00:32:31.140
disc. So it just has... an open case with two

00:32:31.140 --> 00:32:37.059
disc trays so that version is so much better

00:32:37.059 --> 00:32:39.980
than whatever the original blu -ray version was

00:32:39.980 --> 00:32:44.480
yeah i mean i have the blu -ray the i think it's

00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:48.140
it i don't know it's old it's i think it's my

00:32:48.140 --> 00:32:51.599
original blu -ray set um that i bought years

00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:55.720
ago um because it's got the digital version that

00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:58.420
you can't download anymore because whatever the

00:32:58.420 --> 00:33:02.880
service is doesn't exist um so there's there's

00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:07.339
that there's also and this is this is something

00:33:07.339 --> 00:33:09.900
with physical release compared to digital and

00:33:09.900 --> 00:33:14.519
we can get into digital after uh the thing with

00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:19.900
physical release and i'm i'm gonna have an article

00:33:19.900 --> 00:33:27.309
go out soon uh It won't be on this version of

00:33:27.309 --> 00:33:30.369
the site. Let me premise that it'll come out

00:33:30.369 --> 00:33:32.910
when the new one launches, which should be in

00:33:32.910 --> 00:33:36.130
another week. So it'll be on there if people

00:33:36.130 --> 00:33:39.490
want to find it. But it's going to be essentially

00:33:39.490 --> 00:33:46.849
bring back the TV edit. Yes. So I've recently

00:33:46.849 --> 00:33:52.009
gotten this kick of it. And people can read the

00:33:52.009 --> 00:33:56.130
article when it comes out. it's more so just

00:33:56.130 --> 00:33:59.910
making the case for alternative takes of movies

00:33:59.910 --> 00:34:02.990
not just the tv edit like that's part of my premise

00:34:02.990 --> 00:34:08.909
here but the other part of my premise aside from

00:34:08.909 --> 00:34:11.269
that is because mostly i wanted to watch like

00:34:11.269 --> 00:34:16.949
shawshank yeah and i didn't realize years ago

00:34:16.949 --> 00:34:19.989
like it's like yeah i didn't realize that they

00:34:19.989 --> 00:34:22.030
dropped the F bomb literally consistently and

00:34:22.030 --> 00:34:25.210
it's very vulgar and it's very like, but I'd

00:34:25.210 --> 00:34:29.389
watch the TNT or the TBS version. Oh yeah. You

00:34:29.389 --> 00:34:32.650
were very sanitized and I didn't know that. And

00:34:32.650 --> 00:34:34.849
so when I went to go rewatch it, like I think

00:34:34.849 --> 00:34:38.010
five years ago or three years ago, uh, I sat

00:34:38.010 --> 00:34:42.349
down, I'm like, Holy crap. No, it's like, it

00:34:42.349 --> 00:34:44.769
was like, yeah, I can't, I can't sit down and

00:34:44.769 --> 00:34:48.090
watch this now. And it wasn't, you know, it was

00:34:48.090 --> 00:34:50.110
just, personal preference like some people don't

00:34:50.110 --> 00:34:52.190
care and some people you know that's what they

00:34:52.190 --> 00:34:54.469
grew up with and so that's that's kind of the

00:34:54.469 --> 00:34:57.389
premise of this is like not asking like studios

00:34:57.389 --> 00:35:00.369
to erase movies or rewrite them or replace the

00:35:00.369 --> 00:35:04.849
original vision just asking if it can coexist

00:35:04.849 --> 00:35:11.929
because i mean uh for instance there's and this

00:35:11.929 --> 00:35:14.489
is this is something that we've seen different

00:35:14.489 --> 00:35:17.800
things of physical media so there'll be theatrical

00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:22.039
editions directors cut editions extended editions

00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:24.880
anniversary editions collectors editions steelbook

00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:27.539
editions remastered versions you know so it's

00:35:27.539 --> 00:35:30.340
like and and they'll sell all of these and like

00:35:30.340 --> 00:35:33.679
variations from year to year of some of the same

00:35:33.679 --> 00:35:36.000
movies that you know it's like you you got the

00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:41.170
the the 4k yeah blu -ray of back to the future

00:35:41.170 --> 00:35:43.230
and i have the original blu -ray of back to the

00:35:43.230 --> 00:35:46.050
future and you know while yes the 4k is going

00:35:46.050 --> 00:35:49.309
to be better quality just like you know and i

00:35:49.309 --> 00:35:51.809
haven't watched the animated series or the uh

00:35:51.809 --> 00:35:57.590
mask of the phantasm yet to compare notes but

00:35:57.590 --> 00:36:03.110
again like there's so many other versions and

00:36:03.110 --> 00:36:05.250
i was like well why don't we have a broadcast

00:36:05.250 --> 00:36:09.510
television edit version you know like or Or if

00:36:09.510 --> 00:36:13.969
nothing else, and this can again tie into, you

00:36:13.969 --> 00:36:17.090
know, the physical media or the streaming is,

00:36:17.190 --> 00:36:19.750
you know, imagine buying a Blu -ray or, you know,

00:36:19.750 --> 00:36:21.849
digital copy and having the option to choose.

00:36:23.590 --> 00:36:26.150
You know, between what version you want to watch.

00:36:27.969 --> 00:36:30.050
Out of any of these, whether it's theatrical

00:36:30.050 --> 00:36:32.849
or director's cut of available or the original

00:36:32.849 --> 00:36:37.050
broadcast television edit or, you know, just.

00:36:37.369 --> 00:36:39.309
any of those things i mean we already have multiple

00:36:39.309 --> 00:36:43.750
you know language tracks subtitles commentaries

00:36:43.750 --> 00:36:46.489
alternate endings deleted scenes bloopers you

00:36:46.489 --> 00:36:50.610
know you name it so it's like why can't we also

00:36:50.610 --> 00:36:53.989
get that so that that was kind of like part of

00:36:53.989 --> 00:36:57.550
my soapbox there but i think the only reason

00:36:57.550 --> 00:37:02.900
why they don't include the tv edit It's because

00:37:02.900 --> 00:37:06.119
the stations themselves paid for it. That's exactly

00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:12.880
right. It's a TV edit. It's a television film

00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:16.719
right controversy. Like you just said, the TV

00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:22.800
stations paid for it. And I just don't think

00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:26.199
that that's ever going to happen. I agree with

00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:27.900
you. I agree with everything you're saying. I

00:37:27.900 --> 00:37:32.110
think that would be a cool. tell film and television

00:37:32.110 --> 00:37:37.690
preservation thing but i i you know because i

00:37:37.690 --> 00:37:40.150
mean i who doesn't want to hear yippee -ki -yay

00:37:40.150 --> 00:37:44.170
mr falcon on their diehard dvd or or like you

00:37:44.170 --> 00:37:46.269
know i've seen you know like i said shawshank

00:37:46.269 --> 00:37:49.429
like what if you know i overall do i think it's

00:37:49.429 --> 00:37:52.269
a great film a hundred percent like what i showed

00:37:52.269 --> 00:37:54.949
to my kids if i could find the sanitized version

00:37:54.949 --> 00:38:00.219
like the tnt version yeah I would probably, you

00:38:00.219 --> 00:38:02.980
know, I wouldn't feel uncomfortable showing it

00:38:02.980 --> 00:38:09.719
to him. But the the original theatrical version,

00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:12.280
I mean, I'm not even comfortable sitting there

00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:15.699
watching it. So it's like, you know, and then

00:38:15.699 --> 00:38:17.599
there's scenes of like Back to the Future where

00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:20.280
they've changed it, you know, instead of Libyans.

00:38:20.340 --> 00:38:25.780
It's like the terrorists, you know, or or trading

00:38:25.780 --> 00:38:30.329
places, you know. there's a whole nudity scene

00:38:30.329 --> 00:38:34.130
that i didn't realize was there like i i literally

00:38:34.130 --> 00:38:37.250
i kid you not dude like i i rented the movie

00:38:37.250 --> 00:38:39.710
when my wife worked at blockbuster and i was

00:38:39.710 --> 00:38:41.829
sitting down like to watch it because like she

00:38:41.829 --> 00:38:43.150
doesn't care for those kind of movies anyway

00:38:43.150 --> 00:38:48.250
like the comedy stuff of the 80s and i sat down

00:38:48.250 --> 00:38:53.250
to watch it one day and i was paying no other

00:38:53.250 --> 00:38:55.010
attention to it and then all of a sudden i'm

00:38:55.010 --> 00:38:56.829
like uh i don't remember this in the original

00:38:56.829 --> 00:39:01.960
like in the original film and yeah and well i

00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:03.619
didn't know it was there because i saw the tnt

00:39:03.619 --> 00:39:08.340
version and you know same thing with like stuff

00:39:08.340 --> 00:39:11.820
and happy gilmore or you know ace ventura or

00:39:11.820 --> 00:39:13.860
you know some of the other shows like there's

00:39:13.860 --> 00:39:16.619
there's plenty of them that have had random edits

00:39:16.619 --> 00:39:20.440
and so it just sent me down this rabbit hole

00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:24.920
of like when i was looking for a clean version

00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:27.679
of shawshank i was like is there anywhere I can

00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:31.119
stream these or find it or, you know, download

00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:35.280
the file or, you know, buy a disc like like I

00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:39.519
would buy it. I just can't find it. There's nowhere

00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:42.199
like it's like unless you watch it live on TNT

00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:45.019
and TBS, which I haven't in cable in so long.

00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:46.920
I don't even know what if they're still existing.

00:39:47.780 --> 00:39:53.559
I assume they are, but. I again, like it's one

00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:57.199
of these things that. I would like to see it

00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:00.699
as a form of like preservation with media, like

00:40:00.699 --> 00:40:02.820
along with, since we're getting all of these

00:40:02.820 --> 00:40:04.900
different things on discs and all these remasters

00:40:04.900 --> 00:40:09.119
and these, you know, yeah. I mean, just looking

00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:11.980
at like even the 4k thing, like the very top

00:40:11.980 --> 00:40:14.800
of it's 4k ultra HD. And then it says on the

00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:18.219
next line, 4k ultra XD plus Blu -ray plus digital

00:40:18.219 --> 00:40:22.539
code. And then it's got back to the future. and

00:40:22.539 --> 00:40:26.519
40th anniversary trilogy like so it's like all

00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:29.079
this extra text it's like okay guys come on throw

00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:31.400
some throw me a bone here like throw alternate

00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:34.500
stuff on here that we haven't gotten before along

00:40:34.500 --> 00:40:36.920
with the other stuff like if you're gonna resell

00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:39.940
me on the same crap like i get it's in 4k but

00:40:39.940 --> 00:40:43.219
if you're gonna resell it to me again like make

00:40:43.219 --> 00:40:45.719
it worth my while put different versions of it

00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:47.940
on there with it so i can choose which one because

00:40:47.940 --> 00:40:51.519
like there's been uh like even back in the day

00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:54.920
when we had the, uh, uh, the four by three or

00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:57.619
the 16 by nine where you could choose widescreen

00:40:57.619 --> 00:41:01.480
or full, full, uh, full screen. Yep. Additions

00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:03.679
of like movies when you would pop the DVD in,

00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:06.440
like that's, that's kind of what I'm getting

00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:09.000
at is like, yeah, can I choose the theatrical

00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:11.320
or can I, you know, or like they have a theatrical

00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:14.340
or director's cut additions. Yeah. And I do that

00:41:14.340 --> 00:41:17.300
with, you know, so that that's the beauty of

00:41:17.300 --> 00:41:20.329
having discs. Like I think having physical media

00:41:20.329 --> 00:41:23.050
is the option if they so choose to put it on

00:41:23.050 --> 00:41:26.869
there. Whereas streaming, you get a lower res

00:41:26.869 --> 00:41:30.670
version. Unless you pay for the high end stuff,

00:41:30.690 --> 00:41:32.349
and even then it's still compressed compared

00:41:32.349 --> 00:41:36.710
to the disc. True. I think the thing with 4K,

00:41:36.750 --> 00:41:41.030
though, is that if you're paying for 4K media.

00:41:43.690 --> 00:41:47.829
You're expected to have, you're expected to be

00:41:47.829 --> 00:41:53.309
a person that has a 4K player, a 4K television,

00:41:53.449 --> 00:41:58.170
and ain't no 4K television in 4 .3. A 4K television

00:41:58.170 --> 00:42:02.650
is a widescreen television that would be 16 .9,

00:42:02.769 --> 00:42:09.329
that would be anything over 40 inches. Oh, I

00:42:09.329 --> 00:42:12.289
know. I was just comparing. right i was comparing

00:42:12.289 --> 00:42:15.550
the option of of choosing like right in the day

00:42:15.550 --> 00:42:19.130
yeah no absolutely yes absolutely i i understand

00:42:19.130 --> 00:42:22.230
and i agree i mean you're giving us the 4k option

00:42:22.230 --> 00:42:25.690
or blu -ray edition yeah no absolutely so i mean

00:42:25.690 --> 00:42:29.989
you're getting both i mean yeah and that's what

00:42:29.989 --> 00:42:37.409
most do most most 4k discs that i have uh see

00:42:37.409 --> 00:42:41.429
here well Let's take a look at one we've already

00:42:41.429 --> 00:42:44.949
mentioned. Since I so happen to have it right

00:42:44.949 --> 00:42:48.489
next to me and in my hand. Batman, Mask of the

00:42:48.489 --> 00:42:54.369
Phantasm. Oh, wait. No, that disc is just 4K.

00:42:55.130 --> 00:43:00.949
There is no blue with Mask of the Phantasm. For

00:43:00.949 --> 00:43:16.070
example. But, yeah. You could be like surfing

00:43:16.070 --> 00:43:18.750
and just be stuck on DVD the rest of your life.

00:43:20.030 --> 00:43:22.630
Well, I just went over to get my discs since

00:43:22.630 --> 00:43:26.510
you were talking about it. I don't have that

00:43:26.510 --> 00:43:29.550
many. We have some Christmas movies that are

00:43:29.550 --> 00:43:33.389
downstairs that are on DVD still. Like certain

00:43:33.389 --> 00:43:35.090
ones that were just discounted and we were just

00:43:35.090 --> 00:43:36.940
like, eh, we're not going to get rid of it. I

00:43:36.940 --> 00:43:38.659
mean, I still have the DVD of, like, Fun with

00:43:38.659 --> 00:43:43.440
Dick and Jane. Yep. Jim Carrey. Yep. Which is,

00:43:43.460 --> 00:43:46.460
it's still one of my all -time favorite DVDs.

00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:51.039
And, again, special features. Widescreen and

00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:54.280
fullscreen formats. Yep. Dag reel, deleted scenes,

00:43:54.619 --> 00:43:59.559
publicity outtakes, reel of Jim Carrey, interviews

00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:02.400
of the movie, filmmakers' audio commentary. So,

00:44:02.420 --> 00:44:09.079
I mean, a lot of stuff on there. It's very cool.

00:44:09.380 --> 00:44:16.619
Then I'm looking at I have the Back to the Future

00:44:16.619 --> 00:44:24.360
disc set. This one is the 25th anniversary. I

00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:29.539
got it 15 years ago. 15th anniversary Blu -ray

00:44:29.539 --> 00:44:33.130
and digital copy is what it says. It says all

00:44:33.130 --> 00:44:36.230
three movies digitally restored in HD, all new

00:44:36.230 --> 00:44:38.610
bonus features plus digital copy. And then it

00:44:38.610 --> 00:44:41.409
says for a limited time on that. So I have that.

00:44:42.150 --> 00:44:50.590
And then like Beast Machines. I have the Rhino

00:44:50.590 --> 00:44:54.329
version of it because it has like all the interviews

00:44:54.329 --> 00:44:57.130
and it's got a cool menu interface. The box that

00:44:57.130 --> 00:44:59.289
just looks neat. It's very metallic and shiny,

00:44:59.489 --> 00:45:05.130
which. I felt like it was a better disc set than

00:45:05.130 --> 00:45:08.329
what shout did in that regard, but I still have

00:45:08.329 --> 00:45:11.630
shout factories, beast wars, complete series

00:45:11.630 --> 00:45:15.610
set that they sent me. Right. Um, and so I have

00:45:15.610 --> 00:45:17.750
that with the case and the individual stuff.

00:45:17.929 --> 00:45:22.190
And then, uh, I want to say it, but I forgot

00:45:22.190 --> 00:45:26.710
it came with, uh, it came with a mini comic,

00:45:26.750 --> 00:45:34.739
the beast wars prequel. oh yeah that's right

00:45:34.739 --> 00:45:38.739
donna future past i i forgot it did that um but

00:45:38.739 --> 00:45:41.059
anyways yeah so i mean it's shiny and it's cool

00:45:41.059 --> 00:45:44.280
looking but again it's it's a dvd like there's

00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:47.219
no uh like they have the retrospectives they

00:45:47.219 --> 00:45:51.420
have brand new interviews they have um like the

00:45:51.420 --> 00:45:54.119
making of an art gallery and character stuff

00:45:54.119 --> 00:46:00.139
but there's like nothing beyond that uh for that

00:46:00.139 --> 00:46:07.329
disc set and then Then I have I have like the

00:46:07.329 --> 00:46:11.929
the Tobey Maguire Spider -Man. Three movie collection

00:46:11.929 --> 00:46:15.110
because Walmart's got like Walmart, it seems

00:46:15.110 --> 00:46:16.829
to be the one that's kind of like holding the

00:46:16.829 --> 00:46:21.190
torch for DVDs and Blu -rays still like you can't

00:46:21.190 --> 00:46:23.789
even go to like a spy or like any of those places

00:46:23.789 --> 00:46:27.329
and window shop anymore. I mean, there's the

00:46:27.329 --> 00:46:29.829
five dollar bin and a seven dollar bin at Walmart,

00:46:29.989 --> 00:46:33.440
and I don't. I don't peruse that too often because

00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:37.400
it's mostly stuff that I'm like. But I go through

00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:40.280
their television stuff, their TV series, and

00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:43.000
then their collection sets more so than anything

00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.780
else, because I'm like, oh, what am I going to

00:46:45.780 --> 00:46:53.239
find in here of good deal wise? And. So anyways,

00:46:53.340 --> 00:46:55.340
like the Spider -Man movies, like there's all

00:46:55.340 --> 00:47:02.010
three. All three of them on. one box set like

00:47:02.010 --> 00:47:10.789
one set of dvds and it it again like it but this

00:47:10.789 --> 00:47:18.429
has like the 1 .85 to 1 widescreen or the 2 .4

00:47:18.429 --> 00:47:21.269
or whatever like they they have multiple on that

00:47:21.269 --> 00:47:27.289
front um but they they did the stacking thing

00:47:27.289 --> 00:47:31.059
though which i don't like yeah They put all three

00:47:31.059 --> 00:47:34.000
of them back -to -back in the same slot, so I'll

00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:37.019
probably transfer that at some point. But they

00:47:37.019 --> 00:47:42.900
all say widescreen on them. And then... I hope

00:47:42.900 --> 00:47:46.079
people aren't bored listening to us rattle on

00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:52.400
about our discs. And then, like I said, I've

00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:56.619
got the Sony release, the 20th anniversary special

00:47:56.619 --> 00:48:04.150
edition of... of transformers the movie so like

00:48:04.150 --> 00:48:06.030
you got the disc one with the the widescreen

00:48:06.030 --> 00:48:08.150
version and disc two has the full screen version

00:48:08.150 --> 00:48:10.289
and then they both have like their own set of

00:48:10.289 --> 00:48:16.210
uh you know commentaries and uh like scramble

00:48:16.210 --> 00:48:21.110
city is on there with commentary yeah scramble

00:48:21.110 --> 00:48:28.869
scramble city is the the fan dub yep so we were

00:48:28.869 --> 00:48:31.340
we were kind of I think there was some involvement

00:48:31.340 --> 00:48:35.480
from our group on that. The fan dubbing. And

00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:37.699
then, of course, there's the death of Optimus

00:48:37.699 --> 00:48:40.400
Prime and a bunch of other deleted alternate

00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:47.619
footage. So, yeah, there's that. And then, of

00:48:47.619 --> 00:48:53.380
course, I got the 4K Blu -ray Transformers the

00:48:53.380 --> 00:49:02.000
movie for the 35th anniversary. Yep. steelbook

00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:06.260
which just looks awesome yeah i remember that

00:49:06.260 --> 00:49:14.519
i have the uh 40th the 35th of the 40th what

00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:18.039
is that over here got like the promotional stills

00:49:18.039 --> 00:49:23.880
in it it's got uh uh it's got the the full frame

00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:26.940
blu -ray and then it's got a widescreen ultra

00:49:26.940 --> 00:49:32.219
hd 4k Yeah, the 4K. And that was by Shout. So

00:49:32.219 --> 00:49:35.559
like I have that and I actually I need to pop

00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:37.280
them both in at some point and do a comparison.

00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:41.519
And then, of course, I just like I said, I just

00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:45.340
got Justice League Unlimited on Blu -ray. And

00:49:45.340 --> 00:49:49.780
I'm awaiting. And see that this Blu -ray, I really

00:49:49.780 --> 00:49:51.900
like how they did the inside of the case, like

00:49:51.900 --> 00:49:56.619
there's, you know, disc one. And disc two are

00:49:56.619 --> 00:50:01.250
on different. sides of the the flap inside the

00:50:01.250 --> 00:50:03.190
case and the disc three is on its own on the

00:50:03.190 --> 00:50:05.869
back like but they're all blu -ray and they're

00:50:05.869 --> 00:50:09.650
all you know that makes sense yeah it's all very

00:50:09.650 --> 00:50:11.869
polished and very nice and i'm like okay this

00:50:11.869 --> 00:50:15.429
is this is a nice little box set and i love blu

00:50:15.429 --> 00:50:17.710
-rays because there's they take up less space

00:50:17.710 --> 00:50:21.869
and they have more stuff on them yep and then

00:50:21.869 --> 00:50:26.159
i have the the the 4k ultra HD mask of the phantasm

00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:30.880
with the, the beautiful new cover art. And, uh,

00:50:31.179 --> 00:50:36.239
and then they explain actually like how to get

00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:40.219
the 4k experience on the back of the case. Like

00:50:40.219 --> 00:50:43.579
you need a 4k ultra HD TV with HDR. And it's

00:50:43.579 --> 00:50:46.079
like, okay, you also need an ultra HD Blu -ray

00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:50.420
player and a high speed HDMI cat to cable. Yeah.

00:50:50.539 --> 00:50:52.989
See that was the, That was the biggest thing.

00:50:53.110 --> 00:50:55.989
I had already, I already, I've told this story

00:50:55.989 --> 00:51:02.650
before, but in 2018 for Christmas for each other,

00:51:02.750 --> 00:51:05.070
Karen and I were like, okay, we're each going

00:51:05.070 --> 00:51:08.550
to get each other whatever big gift each other

00:51:08.550 --> 00:51:14.489
wants. She wanted a new laptop. I wanted the,

00:51:14.489 --> 00:51:17.750
whatever the most, whatever, whatever, whatever

00:51:17.750 --> 00:51:21.909
TV was. We were going to have it mounted in the

00:51:21.909 --> 00:51:26.389
house at the time. Never ended up mounting the

00:51:26.389 --> 00:51:28.690
damn thing. It always ended up sitting on our

00:51:28.690 --> 00:51:37.889
dresser in the bedroom. Ended up moving. Yada,

00:51:37.889 --> 00:51:40.909
yada, yada, yada, yada. Ended up here in Indiana

00:51:40.909 --> 00:51:46.989
in 2022. Ended up because we bought a mountain.

00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:51.480
everything we had all the stuff we whatever we

00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:56.059
just never ended up doing it and uh ended up

00:51:56.059 --> 00:52:03.099
here by myself in 2022 and called up uh company

00:52:03.099 --> 00:52:06.099
and had them come out and made sure it was okay

00:52:06.099 --> 00:52:08.179
with the apartment complex here and they said

00:52:08.179 --> 00:52:11.880
hey as long as you don't damage our walls it's

00:52:11.880 --> 00:52:16.010
like okay Got the TV mounted up in the bedroom.

00:52:16.070 --> 00:52:22.369
TV I've had for almost 10 years now. And like

00:52:22.369 --> 00:52:27.550
I said, in 2021, after Karen passed, I went and

00:52:27.550 --> 00:52:32.469
I got that Sony 4K Blu -ray player. And I haven't

00:52:32.469 --> 00:52:38.210
looked back ever since with 4K media. For me,

00:52:38.309 --> 00:52:40.269
it's about price. Like, I don't care if it's

00:52:40.269 --> 00:52:42.570
4K or not. Like, I just I like the Blu -ray if

00:52:42.570 --> 00:52:47.679
I can get it. Um, but I'll, if it's more than

00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:49.900
I'm willing to pay, then I'll just get the DVD.

00:52:50.059 --> 00:52:53.340
But at the end of the day, like I'm, I'm being

00:52:53.340 --> 00:52:56.079
very selective on which series I get. Oh, trust

00:52:56.079 --> 00:53:00.880
me. I'm also being very, very like eventually

00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:03.880
I like, eventually I'm going to get Batman, the

00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:06.659
animated series and, uh, Superman, the animated

00:53:06.659 --> 00:53:10.719
series. Cause then I'll have the full DCAU. Uh,

00:53:10.940 --> 00:53:15.889
I just was like, doing it like little spurts

00:53:15.889 --> 00:53:19.309
so like i have mask of the phantasm and justice

00:53:19.309 --> 00:53:23.349
league unlimited yeah and then i'll have beyond

00:53:23.349 --> 00:53:26.309
and justice league and then i'll i'll work my

00:53:26.309 --> 00:53:29.889
way the other direction but um but yeah like

00:53:29.889 --> 00:53:34.849
i it it more so like anymore it's it's more so

00:53:34.849 --> 00:53:40.650
do i really enjoy it enough to have it yeah same

00:53:40.650 --> 00:53:44.469
here Oh, absolutely. In the last five years,

00:53:44.570 --> 00:53:48.269
there hasn't been a purchase that I've made that

00:53:48.269 --> 00:53:52.670
isn't like, oh my God, do I have to have... When

00:53:52.670 --> 00:53:57.630
they announced Knight Rider on 4K, it was like

00:53:57.630 --> 00:54:00.829
a bulldozer in a china shop. Move. Get out the

00:54:00.829 --> 00:54:07.389
way. Like Nick Burns on SNL. Move. Yeah. I've

00:54:07.389 --> 00:54:10.510
bought Knight Rider in my lifetime. I've bought...

00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:13.719
night rider on physical media like every time

00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:17.239
they've put it out like literally i'm looking

00:54:17.239 --> 00:54:21.320
at the photo of the 2010 era when they originally

00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:24.340
put it out on dvd in a complete series set they

00:54:24.340 --> 00:54:29.619
did it as a special box set where if you press

00:54:29.619 --> 00:54:32.940
the scanner thing at the bottom if you look at

00:54:32.940 --> 00:54:35.960
that photo at the very top next in the middle

00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:38.889
next to batman the animated series The little

00:54:38.889 --> 00:54:43.190
red part of the bottom there, it lights up and

00:54:43.190 --> 00:54:46.909
you'll hear kids scanner noise because that was

00:54:46.909 --> 00:54:48.949
the gimmick at the time when they put it out

00:54:48.949 --> 00:54:55.090
on DVD. I bought it when they put it out on Blu

00:54:55.090 --> 00:54:59.050
-ray. And now that it hit 4K, I bought it again.

00:54:59.630 --> 00:55:03.230
I've bought it three times every time they've

00:55:03.230 --> 00:55:07.960
upgraded the media. for the series the 4k should

00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:12.179
do me up until probably my dying breath i'm perfectly

00:55:12.179 --> 00:55:15.980
fine with i don't need it in 8k it's fine the

00:55:15.980 --> 00:55:19.300
4k is more than fine but that's my point is that

00:55:19.300 --> 00:55:25.179
my selections for 4k are very very selective

00:55:25.179 --> 00:55:29.659
like uh two guns batman mask of the phantasm

00:55:29.659 --> 00:55:33.199
power rangers the movie national lampoon's christmas

00:55:33.199 --> 00:55:38.289
vacation Transformers the movie. Tron. Tron actually

00:55:38.289 --> 00:55:44.230
is only on Blu -ray. Tron and Tron Legacy. Las

00:55:44.230 --> 00:55:50.510
Vegas, the TV series from 2003. So yeah, no,

00:55:50.570 --> 00:55:54.889
just like you. I mean, yeah, no, I'm not going

00:55:54.889 --> 00:55:58.389
out and buying every single 4K disc. Hell no,

00:55:58.550 --> 00:56:01.289
I don't want them all. I just want the ones that

00:56:01.289 --> 00:56:03.110
I know that I'm going to really, really enjoy.

00:56:08.140 --> 00:56:13.219
Las Vegas. Oh, man, that series. I had to buy

00:56:13.219 --> 00:56:18.460
that because I still had my original DVDs from

00:56:18.460 --> 00:56:22.320
when NBCUniversal released that way back when

00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:27.599
in 2007, 8, or 9. Because my original DVD set

00:56:27.599 --> 00:56:31.760
for that from NBC. That was back in the day when

00:56:31.760 --> 00:56:35.280
physical media would release dual -sided discs.

00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:39.280
Who the hell remembers those, folks? I remember

00:56:39.280 --> 00:56:42.360
that. I know you do. I was asking the audience.

00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:46.059
But dual -sided discs? Oh, my God. You want to

00:56:46.059 --> 00:56:52.940
talk about... I'll try to save disc space. Holy

00:56:52.940 --> 00:57:02.369
crap. But, yeah, no. But yeah, no. And then the

00:57:02.369 --> 00:57:07.449
whole digital side of, of media, like I already

00:57:07.449 --> 00:57:10.869
said, I still have a whole iTunes collection

00:57:10.869 --> 00:57:18.090
as far as movies and TV shows and stuff. Still

00:57:18.090 --> 00:57:22.389
have a whole, Oh God, my, my iTunes music collection,

00:57:22.449 --> 00:57:26.110
the whole iTunes collection in general is Oh,

00:57:26.110 --> 00:57:29.750
hell, 20 years old this year, 2006 to 2026, so

00:57:29.750 --> 00:57:40.929
it's 20 years old this year. I find myself buying

00:57:40.929 --> 00:57:45.909
more on Fandango at home now just for the ease

00:57:45.909 --> 00:57:50.230
of it. I don't buy it a lot, but it's like if

00:57:50.230 --> 00:57:53.210
something pops up, especially their bundle and

00:57:53.210 --> 00:57:58.369
save deals. Oh man, especially TV series. That's

00:57:58.369 --> 00:58:01.170
just a gold mine to me, especially when they

00:58:01.170 --> 00:58:05.150
have sales for it. That's just a gold mine. Cause

00:58:05.150 --> 00:58:09.050
again, it's just so much easier. Uh, so there's

00:58:09.050 --> 00:58:13.309
that, uh, and then everything else is just streaming.

00:58:13.449 --> 00:58:17.230
It's like I pay for Disney plus I pay for this.

00:58:17.230 --> 00:58:21.389
I pay for that. It is what it is. Uh, so yeah.

00:58:25.380 --> 00:58:30.880
yep and then as far as streaming like I I do

00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:34.360
enjoy it but again I feel like I watch the same

00:58:34.360 --> 00:58:39.519
shows I would watch if I had discs like I mean

00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:41.599
ultimately that is the case like unless it's

00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:50.199
a new show yeah I don't I don't have the same

00:58:50.199 --> 00:58:54.840
like oh there's a ton of stuff on here what do

00:58:54.840 --> 00:58:58.800
I want to watch that's new like it really depends

00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:02.260
for me like I be in a certain mood to like even

00:59:02.260 --> 00:59:09.579
bother checking out something but for the most

00:59:09.579 --> 00:59:11.599
part like I mean my kids enjoy the streaming

00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:14.280
platforms more than I do I think I'm just a relic

00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:18.400
of like I like what I like to watch and I don't

00:59:18.400 --> 00:59:28.780
really care beyond that whereas One, they kind

00:59:28.780 --> 00:59:32.679
of jump between programs a little bit too much.

00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:39.300
Like more than I would. Like they never seem

00:59:39.300 --> 00:59:42.380
to finish a show. Like they'll skim a show or

00:59:42.380 --> 00:59:46.260
they'll, you know, whatever. I don't work that

00:59:46.260 --> 00:59:48.900
way. Like I, I intentionally like watch a show

00:59:48.900 --> 00:59:50.420
with the intent to watch the whole thing. And

00:59:50.420 --> 00:59:52.320
I've, I've watched some, like I have Amazon prime,

00:59:52.460 --> 00:59:55.659
I have Netflix, I have, you know, access to Disney

00:59:55.659 --> 01:00:00.119
plus and, uh, Amazon prime. Like I watched spider

01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:03.579
noir and Netflix. I watched the new little house

01:00:03.579 --> 01:00:06.820
that just came out and reviewed both of them.

01:00:08.539 --> 01:00:12.820
And so i mean there's there's those aspects too

01:00:12.820 --> 01:00:14.880
like i watch it more so like the new stuff more

01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:17.199
to review it and i'll probably go back and watch

01:00:17.199 --> 01:00:21.239
some other stuff and review it too but uh i i

01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:23.480
find myself going back to more of like what i

01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:28.480
enjoy and if it's on streaming great uh i'm i'm

01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:30.619
waiting for like spider noir and that little

01:00:30.619 --> 01:00:33.039
house like the first seasons of both to like

01:00:33.039 --> 01:00:35.699
hit blu -ray because i'll probably pick them

01:00:35.699 --> 01:00:40.940
up yeah Well, it's like me, like, I don't, I

01:00:40.940 --> 01:00:44.780
don't just, I can't just start something and

01:00:44.780 --> 01:00:49.960
not finish it. I've never been that way. I will,

01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:53.099
I have two modes when it comes to my media. I

01:00:53.099 --> 01:00:57.400
either start it and finish it, or I start, oh,

01:00:57.400 --> 01:00:59.300
I have three modes. I start it and finish it,

01:00:59.340 --> 01:01:04.340
or I start it and come back to it later, or I

01:01:04.340 --> 01:01:07.969
just don't do it at all. Like, Because I can't

01:01:07.969 --> 01:01:17.349
just not... Like, if I have... Like, the start

01:01:17.349 --> 01:01:20.309
it and come back to it later thing, it's like,

01:01:20.429 --> 01:01:24.780
okay, I need to start this with... And then set

01:01:24.780 --> 01:01:28.280
an alarm for later that day or later that like,

01:01:28.340 --> 01:01:31.119
okay, I need to do this by this time to make

01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:33.639
sure this is done by this time kind of thing.

01:01:33.739 --> 01:01:36.860
So I have a clear set intention for myself to

01:01:36.860 --> 01:01:40.599
make sure I get this done. But generally, it's

01:01:40.599 --> 01:01:43.420
mainly the other two. It's mainly either start

01:01:43.420 --> 01:01:46.119
it and finish it or don't do it at all. Because

01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:51.429
it's like, why bother even? Even. existing in

01:01:51.429 --> 01:01:55.710
the media space of of consuming media if you're

01:01:55.710 --> 01:02:00.449
not going to do what what it is whatever i recently

01:02:00.449 --> 01:02:06.110
for the first time since the show the show's

01:02:06.110 --> 01:02:10.969
been over for a while now but in 2009 ncis did

01:02:10.969 --> 01:02:14.469
their first spinoff called ncis los angeles and

01:02:14.469 --> 01:02:17.949
i had seen episodes here there back in the day

01:02:17.949 --> 01:02:22.880
and i think what really Hooked me on to that

01:02:22.880 --> 01:02:26.619
show was a two -parter in season three called

01:02:26.619 --> 01:02:30.139
Bly Kay, parts one and two. It was about one

01:02:30.139 --> 01:02:34.199
of the characters, Kenzie Bly, played by Danielle

01:02:34.199 --> 01:02:40.559
Rua. And I don't know, that episode just kind

01:02:40.559 --> 01:02:45.059
of hooked me. Stars Chris O'Donnell and LL Cool

01:02:45.059 --> 01:02:50.539
J and a bunch of other people. I've got that

01:02:50.539 --> 01:02:55.579
on, on Fandango at home. Last month, maybe a

01:02:55.579 --> 01:02:58.739
month or two ago, whatever it was, I've got the

01:02:58.739 --> 01:03:05.039
whole 14 season bundle and I've just been plowing

01:03:05.039 --> 01:03:07.460
through that show. I'm up to season four now.

01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:13.880
And it's just, it's such a good show. It really

01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:17.119
is such a good show. And it's just, it's just

01:03:17.119 --> 01:03:20.739
so fun watching it. The late, great Miguel Ferrar

01:03:20.739 --> 01:03:29.780
is in it. He plays assistant director Granger.

01:03:32.480 --> 01:03:37.400
And it's just fun watching that show. And if

01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:42.239
I had the physical disc version of it, I would

01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:45.380
still be doing the same thing if I didn't have

01:03:45.380 --> 01:03:47.989
the digital version. It was just the digital

01:03:47.989 --> 01:03:50.449
version was easier to purchase at the time. Cause

01:03:50.449 --> 01:03:54.849
again, it was like half off at the time when

01:03:54.849 --> 01:04:00.050
I got it. So, but yeah, no, I think for me, digital

01:04:00.050 --> 01:04:03.929
is more of a convenience thing. It's it, that's

01:04:03.929 --> 01:04:08.590
really all as it is for me. It is sometimes it's

01:04:08.590 --> 01:04:13.030
a price thing. Uh, but again, I can save up my

01:04:13.030 --> 01:04:17.280
money either way, either way it goes. and purchase

01:04:17.280 --> 01:04:26.780
mostly the physical media stuff now is it's more

01:04:26.780 --> 01:04:32.559
movies than tv shows it's more movies than animation

01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:36.579
it's more live action than animation unless it's

01:04:36.579 --> 01:04:44.389
like animation that hasn't had a 4k update or

01:04:44.389 --> 01:04:47.889
anything like that like i bought one of these

01:04:47.889 --> 01:04:50.710
looney tune vault collection things and i'm like

01:04:50.710 --> 01:04:54.809
oh my god okay well i don't think i've seen any

01:04:54.809 --> 01:04:57.989
of this like i don't know how i got it wasn't

01:04:57.989 --> 01:04:59.750
that i got tricked into buying it or anything

01:04:59.750 --> 01:05:02.730
it was like wait a minute this isn't what i thought

01:05:02.730 --> 01:05:04.889
it was gonna be and i'm like wow this is some

01:05:04.889 --> 01:05:08.590
of the weirdest some weirdest cartridge i don't

01:05:08.590 --> 01:05:11.250
think even i've seen any of these things that's

01:05:11.250 --> 01:05:12.690
gonna be interesting watching that eventually

01:05:16.990 --> 01:05:21.630
so yeah as we as we kind of close this one out

01:05:21.630 --> 01:05:25.429
like what I would love to hear from the listeners

01:05:25.429 --> 01:05:29.650
just kind of what your like some of your favorite

01:05:29.650 --> 01:05:34.289
go to physical discs physical library pieces

01:05:34.289 --> 01:05:38.150
are or you know like whether you're all in on

01:05:38.150 --> 01:05:40.889
streaming whether you you know what what's your

01:05:40.889 --> 01:05:44.530
preferences between streaming and the physical

01:05:44.530 --> 01:05:48.949
library like is there a balance that you kind

01:05:48.949 --> 01:05:51.349
of strike like I have a little bit of a balance

01:05:51.349 --> 01:05:53.909
but I'm kind of more leaning towards the physical

01:05:53.909 --> 01:05:58.329
library anymore just with costs and the fact

01:05:58.329 --> 01:06:02.409
that we're getting to the point where things

01:06:02.409 --> 01:06:04.869
are getting taken off platforms constantly or

01:06:04.869 --> 01:06:07.070
you need another one that you don't want to subscribe

01:06:07.070 --> 01:06:10.599
to just to access something so it's like You

01:06:10.599 --> 01:06:12.380
know, I would be interested in hearing what you

01:06:12.380 --> 01:06:15.340
guys have to say on the situation there and let

01:06:15.340 --> 01:06:21.519
us know. Absolutely. Absolutely. The other positive

01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:24.760
thing about the physical collections, though,

01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:30.159
is that. The Internet goes out, all the digital

01:06:30.159 --> 01:06:35.840
libraries go away. Oh, ouch. Yeah, I'll get rid

01:06:35.840 --> 01:06:38.760
of the Internet. They got to keep all those spy

01:06:38.760 --> 01:06:45.010
cameras going. didn't you know we live in a surveillance

01:06:45.010 --> 01:06:51.150
state anymore yes yes yes i feel like we're getting

01:06:51.150 --> 01:06:54.869
into minority report territory haven't we already

01:06:54.869 --> 01:07:00.469
been there i feel like it's gotten worse oh boy

01:07:00.469 --> 01:07:03.670
so anyways thank you as always for listening

01:07:03.670 --> 01:07:08.429
to altered geek and uh you can interact with

01:07:08.429 --> 01:07:13.170
the podcast episode on the website ecastradio

01:07:13.170 --> 01:07:17.130
.com soon to be something different in the near

01:07:17.130 --> 01:07:21.909
future and I'll update on that when the time

01:07:21.909 --> 01:07:25.389
comes he says something different and all I can

01:07:25.389 --> 01:07:27.730
think of is please don't let it be something

01:07:27.730 --> 01:07:35.050
borrowed or something blue no so anyways until

01:07:35.050 --> 01:07:39.289
next time get altered get geeky with the alternate

01:07:39.289 --> 01:08:05.349
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