Super Mario Bros. Super Show Eps 47-49 Review
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animation. I am one of your host TF2 and Mike
and joining me as always is TV's Mr. Do. Oh my
god there's a light at the end of the tunnel
either that or my life is ending I don't know
this show might be killing me. Well it can't
be anything as bad as bad rap. This week's block
of episodes they work none of them are as bad
as bad rap but It was an endurance round, I can
say that. Yeah. I wonder if there was ever an
agent in the James Bond Secret Service 001. For
people not following along at home, I basically
just gave away a bunch of stuff that will come
at the end of the podcast. Alright, so we are
at episode 13. As Neil said, the end is in sight.
We have one more episode before... We have one
more episode of reviews after this, and then
episode 15 is the Super Mario Bros. Super Show
recap, where we begrudgingly, agonizingly go
back over the show in a wider scope. Yeah. I'm
so glad we're not doing commentaries on these
things because, holy crap, that's one of the
ways that I will have a podcast continue on,
like if I want to do it differently, like when
we did the, over at GCR we have a Power Rangers
podcast where we reviewed every single US season.
and Spada actually gave us Sentai clips to go
along with those and to revitalize it and celebrate
the 20th anniversary of the US version of Power
Rangers. We're going back and doing commentaries
from MMPR. I don't think we could ever do commentaries
on about Super Show. Just watching them now is
nearly about to. make Neil and I just kill ourselves.
Yeah, if there was a commentary, if you listen
closely, you would hear us tying the ropes and
then kicking the chairs out from underneath us.
Brooks was here and so was Red. Oh, wow. All
right, so let's get to today's episodes after
this. First up today is Mario of the Deep Okay,
and the live -action segment was two bums from
Brooklyn and Basically baseball manager Tommy
lasagna, which is obviously a parody of Tommy
lasorda played by Joe Bellin Arrives to sample
Mario's meatballs for his restaurant and hires
the Mario's to sell peanuts at the ballpark Um,
that was interesting. It would have been even
more interesting if they actually got Tommy lasorda
to do the thing but obviously Too busy too busy
signing a deal with Sega to have his own baseball
game on the Genesis Yeah Mario of the deep Mario's
group tries to save Aqualand Hey, where's Aquaman
when you really need him? from Koopa's rain The
plot is just You know what I'm generally not
a fan of Aquaman, but I do enjoy the Justice
League two -parter Enemy below where that version
of Aquaman in order to save his son has to cut
his own hand off I like that. I know that may
sound sadistic, but holy crap. What were they
trying to parody here? I don't know. I don't
know either I honestly have no idea. The plot
is just... I know we've said this for the last
12 episodes, but it's just not there. The only
thing, and we're probably just gonna skip right
down to Goombas, but the only thing that I really
have written down for Fire Flowers for good points
is, I really did like, because it's very hard
to do underwater. animation as far as I know
it is. You can correct me if I'm wrong, but I
thought the underwater animation was damn good
looking for what it is. I think they had a filter
back then that kind of adds a little bit of waviness
to the video and that's how they get that. The
only positive thing I can say is that, hey, Clawgrip
showed up. One of the rare Mario villains. Uh
-huh, yeah. The overall plot, it's like every
other plot of this show. The gang go to this
latest land in the shroom kingdom and smoke a
lot of weed and do a lot of drugs. Do some shrooms.
Yeah. Yeah. In more ways than one. No! Oh no!
Why don't we, uh, go ahead and get to the Goomba
stomping after this. This time, plumb bums, I'm
gonna flush you down the drainpipe of doom! All
right, stomping on the Goombas. I know it's a
cartoon and all, and there's supposed to be some
sort of suspension of disbelief, but how the
hell are Mario, Luigi, and the Princess breathing
underwater? for that long period of time oh they've
done this before where like it doesn't matter
if they're underwater they can just be there
for some reason and it kind of uh it kind of
runs into a a little problem with a with a later
episode of super mario 3 where mario is afraid
to swim but we'll burn that bridge when we get
to it yes i was so bored with this What were
you gonna say? Nothing, I had to cough. I was
just so bored with this. The entire thing took
place underwater. Like, they didn't... I don't
even remember them coming to the surface at the
end of the episode. They didn't. Yeah, that...
Yeah, this is so boring and you mentioned earlier
about the good point about a claw grip What the
hell and what game is the claw grip from from
Super Mario to? See what world is he in? I think
he might be the boss of world three Maybe oh,
yeah, see I probably wouldn't know him then because
usually after world one. I worked warped to world
four. Yeah Either world three or world five.
I don't remember but anyway king neptune so annoying
and there are way too many fish puns in this
episode like like an overabundance of fish puns
so bad just so bad and then later on normally
i don't i used to love when playing the original
super mario i love the underwater music and the
sound effects while you're swimming The swimming
sound effects in this just started to piss me
off by the time we got to the end of the episode.
I don't know. What didn't you like about this
one? The fact that there was virtually no plot.
Was the Little Mermaid out by this point? I should
have looked that up. Well, I've got the thing
here. Mario of the Deep, November 22, 1989. I
know Little Mermaid came out in 89. They wouldn't
really have had time to rip it off, so I'm gonna
give Deke a point this time and say they probably
didn't rip it off, but still it was reminding
me of Little Mermaid a little. So you're basically
saying that Disney ripped off the Deke? No, I'm
gonna say that it's just a coincidence and I'm
gonna let Deke off the hook this time. But next
time, Deke, next time... Anyway, um, let's see
the underwater voice effect was just getting
on my nerves cuz Yeah, it kind of has this verbal
effect that it makes everyone sound like like
merman And a really bad merman at that yeah Oh
Yes, it was this episode aired November 22nd
1989 We're made a week before November November
14 Not even ten days apart, I know right Not
even well eight. It's actually eight days apart.
But yeah The thing is there was a little mermaid
type character in this Yeah, and she wasn't a
redhead at all and she's winning she was kind
of like I Don't know her name must have been
Do sec ex machina because she was basically there
to The Mario's were like, oh no, how do we how
do we rescue? King Neptune and she was like,
hey I know and she just happened to have the
information they needed that rescue government
As far as I know that's that's what her role
in the cartoon was yeah pretty much and this
just this just goes to show you that there aren't
ladies and gentlemen I've said before in the
last 12 episodes of the show I'm looking at this
as an adult like I was an adult when this came
out and it's not even about animation quality,
it's about the fact that these stories don't
hold up at... They don't even date themselves,
really. They're just... Because, as you've said
before, it's basically, hey, let's take the Mario
characters and put them in this story, or put
them in that story, or put them... Like... If
they did a Mario cartoon nowadays, not necessarily
in this same style, but... if they used part
of the origin of, hey, we got sucked down a warp
pipe, or whatever... I would want it to be slightly
better and you know more more to the story than
just what what trope can we rip off now of course
now there are tons of trope casts around here
so you never know see you said you said something
about looking at it with adult eyes I saw this
with kid eyes and I knew this wasn't good I I
was pissed off when this cartoon came out because
You know the early 80s It wasn't a good time
for cartoons, but you know the overseas stuff
was actually pretty good the early episodes of
Transformers were awesome looking The early deep
cartoons are pretty good. You know inspector
gadget was amazing and then this came along and
I was like what? Happened I was so disappointed.
I mean, this is why this like kids of the late
eighties are kind of jaded and this is why we
all like started watching anime in the mid 90s
because we just couldn't take this anymore all
right we are gonna move on to the next episode
number 12 ,247 it was a great day in the mushroom
kingdom we've finally gotten rid of cooper and
his evil minions the mushroom people were free
and the princess was back in her castle It was
time for me and Luigi to go back home to Brooklyn.
Thanks for scaring off, Koopa. You Mario brothers
are super. I'm sure gonna miss you guys. Don't
cry, Princess. With this drainpipe open, we can
visit any time we want. Yeah. Life without Koopa
is gonna be perfect as pasta. Speaking of which,
Luigi, let's go home to Mama's cooking. Up next
is Flatbush Koopa. Since when do lizards have
bushes? Well, Flatbush is a district in Brooklyn,
yeah. Yeah, it's a New York reference, yep. Alright,
so Flatbush Koopa, the live -action segment was
so lame. It was entitled Opera. Basically, their
upstairs neighbor apparently singing opera through
the open pipes. The live -action segments are
really disappointing me at this point. Yeah,
they really really are This wasn't so much a
story as it was just a premise Yeah, fly push
Koopa like Mario Luigi finally returned to Brooklyn
only to learn that Koopa is taking over the city
Like this could have like if they if they had
actually thought about this either Brooklyn Bound
or Flatbush Koopa could have been the final episode
of this series one of those two could have been
because you in both of those episodes you have
the choice of them returning home and even in
this episode they return home Koopa took over
and then they like I look at this episode and
I'm thinking like okay if this is like if this
is gonna be at the very tail end of the series
the very last episode this would be absolutely
amazing because you have them going home in the
beginning and then they get home Koopa's taking
over trying to take over Brooklyn and make it
Koopaland and Koopa Island and all this stuff
they stop him they send him back to the Mushroom
Kingdom and they keep going on with the fight
now that's how i would have loved to have seen
this series and on that kind of an episode note
sadly didn't do that what so ever uh... i a written
i have nothing written down for fire flowers
in this all the puns are so bad i have mostly
negative points but uh... and one one note i
have here is that when they first show up in
brooklyn they come out of the sewer and you notice
the the background painting the street corner
on is the exact same street corner that is in
the opening sequence of the Super Mario 3 cartoon.
The sign on the building is a little different,
and some of the other background elements are
different, but otherwise it's supposed to be
the exact same shot. See, that makes me think,
and I know this didn't happen, but was Mario
3 in production? Don't think it was because it
didn't come out until what 90 or 91 it would
have been in production While this show was on
the air as it was like yeah next year Yeah so
Any other thoughts on the plot for this one um?
There really wasn't one I Know there were continuity
problems, but mostly due to the animation. We'll
get to that when we start negative Yeah, alright,
let's go ahead and get there then. Alright, let's
go ahead and stomp on the Goombas. Once again,
Mario's voice, Luigi's lips moving. Yeah, animation
error on that part. Really Koopa has a wand again
again. It goes to my point of asking you earlier
about Mario 3 because These were on the air See
that's see that's what I don't get like okay
I get you put a show in production the year before
and then before it goes on the air but How would
they know that they were gonna use want like
the game Mario 3 didn't come out until what 90?
Yeah, but like I said, first of all, it came
out in Japan in 1988 and they had to know that
that game already existed because they were talking
about making a cartoon. But other than that,
it could just be a coincidence. I mean, the instruction
manual does say that Koopa turned the mushroom
people into bricks and a little piece of instruction
booklet lore that I would like to forget because
it's stupid but anyway yeah it is in there so
the easiest way to do that is to have them do
it with a magic wand so it kind of it can be
passed off as a coincidence I know we've seen
the ones I was just speaking overall about this
series versus Mario 3 because you have we've
seen the ones before this episode it was wasn't
like that this was the only episode that we've
seen a wand in that's true Seriously, Koopa,
what the hell kind of plan is turning people
into bricks? Like I said, it's a stupid piece
of lore from the instruction book, but it doesn't
really make sense when it's actually applied
to a story. And it really pissed me off that
when they were actually using the damn warp zone
pipe, there's no warp zone effects. There's no
warp zone sound effect whatsoever when they jump
down and at the end, and they come out of it.
No sound effect whatsoever. What didn't you like
about this one? Well, it wasn't just the fact
that the the wrong character was talking I mean
this entire episode it isn't the worst episode.
It's the worst animated I mean their characters
were off model throughout the entire cartoon
Mario is a little shorter than he normally is
and Some of the just the way they were animated
was so like cookie cutter and simple I mean this
looks like someone's student film This episode
is appalling, even for the low standards set
by this show already. Wrong characters talking,
continuity problems caused by bad animation.
I mean, there are times when Koopa's on the ground
and suddenly he's on the roller coaster track.
He gets thrown through the circus tent and then
suddenly he's on top of the circus tent. It's
like, what is going on in this cartoon? People
are popping in and out of scenes. The cops are
turned into bricks and then suddenly one's not
a brick anymore. This is just horrible animation.
Yes, yes it is very much so. Like I said before
I did enjoy it for the fact of hey, we're gonna
go back to Brooklyn and of course as you said
we will see this again when we get to Mario 3
where they I Know for a fact there's an episode
where cootie pie Koopa or Wendy Oh Koopa, whatever
the fuck you want to call her She does try to
take over the world At one point when we get
to that cartoon, I'll have to explain the They
have kind of a silly origin. I'm sure they do,
just as they were. But I would rather have, and
I'll say this again once we get to Mario 3, I
would rather have, as far as a story standpoint
goes, I would rather have a Koopa Kid be the
boss of a level than a Birdo. Yeah. You know?
I mean... Alberto and then you jump in the eagles
mouth and it takes you to the casino and you
lose a lot of money. Alright, let's move on to
the final episode of the day. We were searching
for a legendary statue with magical powers the
lost mushroom only trouble was Koopa was looking
for it, too They say the last mushroom will grant
the wishes of whoever possesses it We've got
to find it before the evil Koopa. All right,
finally up today is Indiana Mario and the Raiders
of the Lost Mushroom Yeah Ladies and gentlemen
Tv's Mr. Neal and his exasperated sighs of...
I don't know what. Watching this episode feels
like getting raided by a lost mushroom. The live
action segment was Cirno DiMario. Yeah, Cirno
DiMario. Okay, this is based on the play... which
was adapted into an 80s film starring Steve Martin,
which was called Roxanne. Yeah. Yes. Supposedly
now I'm going to have to, I guess I'm going to
have to crack up my DVD set again. Supposedly
Vanna White was the guest star. I was going to
ask, because I was watching this, I'm like, is
this really Vanna White? It is. the thing for
me is i don't know i don't know if i looked away
at the wrong moment i never saw her and i watched
the i watched the whole thing from the beginning
to end did you blacked out no they don't think
i did possibly but um but i mean you think about
it vanna white one wrestler we'll get to later
which was absolutely awesome um sergeant slaughter
uh Magic Johnson all these other people that
were you know super huge At the time that this
cartoon was was out and everything else in the
van has been popular for years. Thanks to Wheel
of Fortune And they even had remember I said
a number of episodes ago She was there was an
animated version of her in the cartoon. Yeah
So, I mean it only I don't think that they would
have just made fun of her in the cartoon and
not had her on as a guest. I don't know. I think
this was someone on the set or someone in the
production was friends with her. I can't imagine
why she would appear on here. It's so random.
Well, it's a little bit more random that Magic
Johnson ends up in a magic mirror. I'm sure anything.
So it's like goes up on the Super Mario Super
Show for no reason. Yes Mario and company team
up with Indiana Joe to try and recover the statue
known as the lost mushroom Obviously the episode
is based on the Raiders of the last the lursed
what the hell's the worst Raiders of the Lost
Ark? It's a Marion Mario No Marion Mario is my
some good points to this so I guess we can try
to find some fire flowers any overall thoughts
in the plot um Not really just that it was kind
of weird and random that that Indiana Joe did
not have a face Yeah, that must be like an in
joke, I mean that's something that animators
do they find something funny that's like oh this
is isn't this funny let's put it in the cartoon
and like nobody in the audience understands yeah
i'll get to that when we get to the goombas so
let's uh go grab those fire flowers calamari
we've landed in a pond of quicksand boy did you
ever have one of those days The bravest, baddest
treasure hunter in jungle land, Indiana Joe!
Treasure hunter! Can you help us find Los Mushrooms?
Piece of cake, Jake! So for some fire flowers,
a Mario balloon with a giant M on it. I thought
that was hilarious. Hey, let's announce ourselves
to the world! Hey Koopa, here's a target for
you to shoot at. That was hilarious. I always
enjoyed the albatross, so yay albatross! And
Koopa swears again, fan Koopingtastic. Yeah,
I think they're doing that on purpose. Well,
yeah. I mean, because cartoons didn't crack the
censors until 1991 with Tiny Toons. Anything
you liked about this one? Not really a whole
lot. I didn't... Let's see... Well, Fry Guy shows
up. Let's see, other than that... Was that Fry
Guy or was that a different villain? That was
Fry Guy. Let's see... The one that was flying
around spitting fire at them? Yeah. This isn't
really a bad or good point. I'm just going to
point out that the lost mushroom is a little
gold statue of a... little naked buddha character
with a mushroom head and at certain angles it
kind of looks rather phallic and then on the
front of it, it appears to have an Audi belly
button but sometimes it doesn't look like an
Audi, it sometimes looks like something else.
Not really a good or bad point, just an observation
I made about the... So it's kind of like the
castle that's a dick. Yeah. Another Little Mermaid
reference two in the same show All right, let's
get to the goombas Looks like Indiana Joe is
gonna lead those sewer swimming saps to the lost
mushroom That guy knows the location of every
hidden treasure in jungle land and every shortcut
to them for the goombas stomping Indiana Joe
really? They couldn't have said Indiana Jones
Seriously like is that name okay outside of the
movie titles is the name actually copyrighted?
I'm Pretty sure it's trademarks Lucas probably
You mentioned earlier that it's some sort of
in joke that Joe doesn't have a face and whole
time I was thinking hey Where's Madonna's blank
they could get together and have Tracy didn't
come out till a year later. Oh Yeah, oh Great
the Coupa armbands are shitty half -drawn Nazi
symbols. Yeah, the Coupas are Nazis in this Which
is appropriate because it's based on Indiana
Jones, but yeah, it is but I get trying to be
accurate, but that was just a little too weird.
Like, that was too weird. Like, I could see this
episode happening if it wasn't Koopa. If Mouser
took it over from him. Yeah, Mouser was good
for the Nazi stereotype. Yeah, I could see that,
but... What about you? What didn't you want,
this one? Bad animation. Oh, the story couldn't
decide if the cobrats shoot bullets, eggs, or
fire. By the way, they are supposed to be shooting
bullets, but it was like all over the place.
Let's see. Yeah, that's pretty much it. Indiana
Joe. Yeah, I didn't get why his face was blank.
I mean Yeah, I'm just at a loss to explain that
Yeah, I I'm gonna lost to and I you know, I'm
I find myself really offended that they turned
Koopa and his villains into Nazis. This episode,
you know, just watching it made it feel like
my face was melting. I knew I should have kept
my eyes shut and not look at it. Yeah... I just...
I don't know. So we're gonna take a quick break.
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we close out, we'll be ranking each episode on
a 0 to 5 stars slash Starman scale. For Mario
of the Deep, what do you give it? I'll give it
a 1. It wasn't good, but... See, we unanimously
gave Bad Rap a 0, so it's like... I have trouble
putting anything else at 0 now. really because
i can't like really like bring i can't like really
endorse the fact that anything could be as low
as that so i have to give it like a one just
to set it apart yeah well we did actually give
bad rap special grades of triple zero and zero
and infinity so i mean for me i was just so bored
with mario of the deep and like i said in in
the in the discussion part the entire episode
is underwater i needed a little bit of a change
of scenery but overall between that and uh...
king neptune uh... i was losing your audio there
for a second or yeah uh... between that and king
neptune uh... being so annoying uh... is so many
fish funds i gotta give this is your own it's
just uh... flatbush koopa you know i'm gonna
go back what i just said i'm gonna give this
is your crap so animated so badly it is yeah
uh wait are you talking about flatbush or mario
flatbush okay yeah yeah flatbush i like the the
plot premise um of them going back to brooklyn
and having to save it from i like that but the
animation was just so bad zero What about Raiders
of the Lost Mushroom? I guess I'll give it a
1. It wasn't completely terrible, but it was
still pretty bad. If Indiana Joe had actually
had a face, this would have been a 2 for me,
but it gets a 1 for me as well. So that's gonna
do it for us. What's going on over at No Super
Skirts? No Super Pants? Yes. Well, I don't know
yet, because we're recording this several weeks
in advance. So I don't know what page I'm on.
But should I explain that? It was kind of a reaction
to the new 52, how they were trying to put pants
on all the old superhero women. And they went
back on that, so Ben sold me the URL. So now
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