Movie Week in Review
007 – Quantum of Solace Review

About this Episode
It'd be a pretty cold bastard who didn't want
revenge for the death of someone he loved. I
don't think the dead care about vengeance. This
man and I have some unfinished business. The
first thing you should know about us is that
we have people everywhere. What the hell is this
organization, Bond? How can they be everywhere
and we know nothing about them? This is the world's
most precious resource. We need to control as
much of it as we can. Name check. Dominic Green.
He's a person of extreme interest. We've already
begun destabilizing the government. You know
who Green is and you want to put us in bed with
him? Yeah, you're right. We should just deal
with nice people. Get in. All right. Careful
with this one, Mr. Barnes. She won't go to bed
with you unless you give her something she really
wants. I think someone wants to kill you. You
two do make a charming couple, though. You're
both... What's the expression? Damaged goods?
Seems we're both using green to get to someone.
You lost somebody? I did. You catch whoever did
it? No. Not yet. Tell me when you do. I'd like
to know how it feels. I will need you to get
rid of him. When you can't tell your friends
from your enemies, it's time to go. Right now,
I think you're the only person I can trust. James,
move your ass. I wish I could set you free. But
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with M wire My sources tell me your Bolivian
Secret Service We used to be That you infiltrated
greens organization by having sex with him No,
not in the slightest So what's your interesting,
Green? Amongst other things, you try to kill
a friend of mine. A woman? Yes. But it's not
what you think. Your mother? She likes to think
so. Hello and welcome to Shaken, Not Stirred,
M .Y .R.'s Spotlight on the Bond films, which
is brought to you by the Geekcast Radio Network
and Audible .com. I am one of your hosts, Steve
Joe Mike, and joining me as always is movie role
Dan. Hello. Hello. And today, we're going to
be talking about the second entry into the Craig
era, which is Quantum of Solus. Wow. Wait, was
that mistake? Did you meant to say that? I gotta
say the real title at some point. Okay, so when
I was watching this back before we recorded this
episode, I had to look up when this film was
released. because i honestly could not remember
because i love i hated this film so much when
i saw it first time around um this film was released
in 2008 the year of iron man and the dark knight
no wonder james bond fans hated this movie because
superheroes defeated 007 holy shit All right,
I assume since Craig is your era, you saw this
in theaters, yes? Yeah, this is the first one
I saw in theaters, actually. I feel so sorry
for you. But yeah, this is the first one I saw.
I remember I watched Casino Royale. It may have
been a year or two. I forget when, when I first
heard about Cuauhtemoc Solace. And I went into
the theater with high expectations, and we'll
talk about how those expectations were met at
that time. Alright, so when you were in the I
mean your theater experience What was that like
because I like I said, I did not see this in
theaters um I remember probably went on it usually
I go on Saturday mornings because they're usually
it's cheaper and less of a crowd but I remember
like at the time I didn't really know much about
I wasn't really into reviews as much as I am
now. Like, I don't know. I didn't have any idea
what the overall expectations were or what the
reviews were going in. So I just kind of, and
I was still getting into the franchise, so I
wasn't going in with huge expectations. I was
just like, oh, a little Casino Royale. Hopefully
this one will be good too. And I remember watching
it and kind of like... Still being I remember
just being confused like a lot just because I'm
I watched Casino Royale But I didn't watch it
like a day or two beforehand and you kind of
need to Because there's it ties in so much. I
didn't really expect that. I remember like characters
returning I'm like and it picks up I did not
expect it to pick up like right after that movie
I'm like is this wait is I think this is how
the other I couldn't like I was trying everything
together and I think that kind of my first experience
is probably my worst experience because I was
just trying to figure out how everything connects
together and I was trying to remember like all
those different characters and I'm horrible with
names so when they're talking about Vesper I
forgot that's who the character girl's name was
I'm like wait who's okay yeah Vesper is that
so I was always playing catch -up and I part
of that made me kind of When I got to the final
sequence when it was kind of all kind of tying
together, I'm like, I'm completely lost I needed
I needed to rewatch this immediately. I didn't
like dislike it. I wasn't completely disappointed
I just remember just kind of being underwhelmed
and I just was like I I kind of felt like a bad
moviegoer like I didn't do my homework or something
and like you ever in like in a class And you
know, you have a story to read and like you don't
read it and then you're trying to just play along
like you did That's kind of what like I felt
watching this I'm like I'm playing along like
I saw the movie before and and I did but I just
I just Couldn't understand the discussion that
that I was listening to so yeah, that was my
movie going experience Yeah I think when I first
rented this because I did I did not see it in
theaters. I was not interested at all. When I
first saw this, it was a time when I had joined
Redbox and I was constantly getting free rental
codes because I was not going to pay a buck whatever
at the time back then. I think it was like a
dollar six here in Kentucky, which was where
Redbox was. I was not going to pay even a dollar
six for this movie. It just wasn't. So I used
a free rental code and I Brought it home and
I watched it because there's a red box kiosk
over at the like across the street at the at
the gas station that I live across from. So I
mean, you know, less than a five minute walk
to get a free movie. That's fine with me. Got
at home and I was like. What the hell are they
doing? I know we've had kind of sequels before
we've had kind of continuations before with especially
with on her majesty's secret service and diamonds
are forever and all that but as we said yesterday
with with casino bond films are individual damn
it they should not be film one sequel film two
sequel it should not be that way um So yeah,
and the other thing that doesn't, and we'll get
into that. So let's go ahead and go to JT so
he can synopsize the film and give us some little
tidbits on quantum of boredom. We'll be back
after this. Opening just moments after the end
of the last picture, Agent 007 James Bond is
speeding along an Italian highway in Asastin
Martin with captured Mr. White in the trunk.
But along the way Bond is assaulted by Mr. White's
henchmen who are following Bond. They open fire
on him and Bond shoots back, narrowly missing
getting hit by oncoming traffic as they weave
in and out on the road. Bond eventually runs
most of the henchmen off the road and proceeds
to meet Em at a safe house located in the city
of Siena, Italy. There, Em tells Bond that the
body of Vesper's boyfriend, Yousef Kabira, has
been found off the coast of Ibiza. However, forensics
determine the body is not Kabira's, leading Em
to think he may still live. Bond pockets a picture
of Yusuf with Vesper, then turns to interrogate
Mr. White alongside M. Their questions amuse
Mr. White, who says that the first thing they
should know about his organization is that they
have people everywhere, including MI6 it seems,
as Mitchell, one of the other agents on hand,
draws his gun and tries to kill M. As Bond struggles
with Mitchell, a stray shot hits Mr. White, and
he is thought to be killed. Bond chases after
Mitchell, who tries to lose Bond in a crowd near
a horse race, but to no avail. Bond catches Mitchell
on the rooftop, and they fall into a building
being renovated. Bond tumbles down some scaffolding,
getting entangled in the ropes, but is eventually
able to get his weapon and kill Mitchell. Upon
returning to the safe house, Bond finds that
White didn't die and has escaped. Returning to
London, Bond meets with M as agents search Mitchell's
home. M is distraught and at a loss as to how
and why Mitchell was turned against MI6. Some
marked bills are found that lead Bond to Slate,
a man assumed to be Mitchell's contact. Bond
travels to Port -au -Prince, Haiti to investigate
Slate, but when entering his hotel room, Bond
is attacked by Slate and kills him in the struggle.
Assuming Slate's identity, Bond picks up his
briefcase from the front desk and is picked up
outside the hotel by Camille Montez. While they
drive, Bond discovers Camille thinks he's a geologist,
but it turns out Slate was hired to kill Camille
by Dominic Green, Camille's lover and head of
an ecological preservation society. When she
sees the gun hidden in the case, she throws Bond
out of the car and speeds off. Bond steals a
bike from a guy who is following them and follows
Camille to the docks. When Camille angrily confronts
Green, he reveals he always knew she was only
using him to get to General Madrano, a Bolivian
general who is attempting to take control of
the country. Green makes a deal with Madrano.
His organization will help him take over Bolivia
as long as they get a certain parcel of desert
land in the country for their own purposes. Green
even sweetens the deal, offering Camille to Medrano,
who turns out to have killed her family years
before. Bond watches and then pursues Medrano
and Camille as they leave the docks. Bond steals
a fishing boat and rescues Camille, resulting
in a boat chase across the port. Camille passes
out due to exhaustion and Bond leaves her on
the docks while he continues after Green. Working
with M back at MI6, 007 follows Green to an airfield
where he boards a waiting charter plane. When
M checks up on Green, she discovers Green is
being supported by the CIA, with Felix Leiter
being one of the agents involved. Bon follows
Green to Bergen's Austria and to an opera house
where he discovers that some of the patrons are
really members of Green's organization, called
Quantum. Bond knocks out one of the Quantum members
and steals his earpiece, listening in as Green
and his cohorts plot their evil plots. Bond eventually
lets them know that he's been listening and takes
pictures of the Quantum members as they rise
to leave the show, sending the pics back to MI6.
After dealing with some goons sent to kill him,
Bond goes to leave the theater and runs across
Green. A gunfight and foot chase ensue as Bond
tries to escape. During the melee, Bond is framed
for killing a bodyguard of Guy Haynes, a very
well -connected advisor in the British government
by Green's men. Because of this, and because
she thinks Bond's out of control, M freezes Bond's
assets and revokes his 00 status. Not that this
stops him for long, as Bond goes back to Italy
to recruit Rene Mathis, who is cleared of any
wrongdoing between films, to accompany him to
Bolivia. When they land in La Paz, Bolivia, Bond
and Mathis are met by Strawberry Fields, an MI6
agent sent by M to escort Bond back to the UK.
Bond plays along, pretending to follow orders,
but instead begins to deduce the hell out of
Agent Fields so he can continue with his plan.
After rolling in the hay with Miss Fields, Bond
crashes an eco -fundraiser Green is throwing,
intending on confronting the slimy sociopath.
Camille is also in attendance where she spoils
Green's party by exposing all of his lies and
dirty dealings to the other guests. Green corners
Camille on a terrace intending to throw her over
the side when Bond and Fields intervene. Bond
takes Camille and leaves, but he is soon pulled
over by Bolivian police. The police order Bond
to hand over his passport and then have him open
the back of his ride, revealing a beaten and
bloody Mathis. When Bond goes to help his friend,
the cops open fire and fatally wound the ailing
Mathis. After doing unto others as they have
done unto his friend, Bond shows he hasn't completely
hardened his heart, staying with Mathis in his
final moments. As he fades, Mathis asks Bond
to forgive Vesper, who really did love him, and
to forgive himself. After placing Mathis in a
trash bin, Camille calls Bond in his disrespect,
Bond responding that Mathis wouldn't have cared.
The two then travel into the interior of Bolivia
and rent an airplane to survey the land Greene
acquired from Medrano. En route, they are attacked
by a fighter jet and an attack helicopter, but
despite being overpowered and outmatched, Bond
is able to use his plane to take out the pursuing
craft before he and Camille escape by parachuting
into a sinkhole. After they have a moment to
gather their wits, Bond and Camille start searching
for a way out and discover that Quantum is hoarding
the drinking water supply at Bolivia by means
of underground dams. It's while searching for
a way out that Camille tells Bond how she has
spent years plotting revenge on Madrano for killing
her family. After reaching the surface and getting
back to La Paz, Bond is confronted by Am at his
hotel, where he finds Green has killed Miss Fields
by drowning her in crude oil. Under pressure
from above, and once again believing Bond has
overstepped his bounds, M orders Bond to turn
himself into MI6 custody. Bond quickly disables
the other agents who arrest him and stealthily
escapes to continue his pursuit of Green. Despite
her own orders, M still believes in Bond and
orders the remaining agents to keep an eye on
him. Bonder rages to meet with Felix later at
a local dive bar and is told by his American
compadre that both their governments have agreed
to work with Green, believing that he is hoarding
vast reserves of oil. Felix also tells 007 that
Green is meeting with Medrano at a fancy eco
-friendly hotel in the desert to finalize their
deal. Bond then asks if there is anything else
he should know. After escaping the CIA hit team,
Vaughn travels with Camille to the desert near
the Eco Hotel, as she cleans their guns before
the battle. Bond offers Camille some advice about
what to do when she confronts Medrano, knowing
there's nothing he can do to change her mind.
During the meeting, Green pays off the Bolivian
Colonel of Police, who is the same man that sent
the cops after Mathis and Bond. Green also hands
Medrano a contract for utility services that
Quantum will be provided after Medrano takes
power. Medrano at first refuses to side the inferred
contract, but recants his decision after Green
threatens to use Quantum's influence to destroy
it. If you decide not to sign, you will wake
up with your balls in your mouth and your willing
replacement standing over you. After Medrano
signs, Green hands over his payment and then
Medrano retires to his hotel suite. It is then
that Bon and Camille begin their assault, with
007 drawing first blood by killing the police
colonel for what he did to Mathis. Bon's actions
cause one of the hotel's hydrogen fuel cells
to rupture, causing an explosive chain reaction
that begins to rip apart the hotel. Bond then
attempts to capture Green, who loses his normal
icy calm and goes bug nuts crazy, attacking Bond
with a fire axe before escaping the burning hotel.
Meanwhile, Camille goes after Madrano, interrupting
his attempted rape of a hotel serving girl. Despite
being overpowered by the despicable Madrano,
Camille does succeed in killing her family's
murderer. Exhausted by the effort, Camille collapses
and is rescued by Bond, who affects their escape
by shooting a fuel cell and blowing a hole in
the wall. Bond then captures Green, who reveals
all that he knows, and then Bond drives him into
the middle of the desert. Bond drops Green in
the proverbial middle of nowhere, with nothing
but a can of motor oil. Bond bets Green that
he'll only make it 20 miles before he considers
drinking the oil, knowing what the rest of Quantum
will do when they find him. Bond then takes Camille
to a nearby train station, the young woman wondering
what her life holds for her now that her revenge
is complete. They share a passionate kiss before
going their separate ways, and Bond then travels
to Kazan, Russia, to confront an alive -and -well
Yousef Kabira, Vesper's former lover, in a scene
reminiscent of his encounter with Dryden in Casino
Royale. It seems Yousef seduces women agents
of various governments, so that they may then
be turned into moles for Quantum's benefit. Bond
asks Yousef's latest conquests ceases agent Corrine
Vinault to leave and alert her government before
he questions Yousef. When he exits Yusef's apartment,
Bond finds M waiting, who is surprised Bond did
not kill him. She also reveals that Green was
found dead in the desert after being shot in
the head and having motor oil in his belly. M
then asks Bond to return to MI6, with Bond responding
that he never left, before walking off into the
night and into the classic gun barrel sequence
ending the film. Quantum of Solace opened on
October 29, 2008 to mixed reviews. Roger Ebert,
who loved Casino Royale, did not have much love
for this new film. Ebert wrote that Bond lacked
personality and the script was the weakest part
of the whole endeavor. Dark Horizons critic Garth
Franklin considered the film a disappointment
that was barely plotted and poorly filmed. No,
tell us how you really feel. However, the film
did have some fans. Richard Knight of the Windy
City Times said Quantum had plenty of thrills
with enough bedroom action and some witty retorts
to keep things moving along. And Austin Kennedy
of Film Geek Central thought the film was a satisfying
enough Bond film and thought it unfair to expect
the film to be better than Casino Royale. Currently,
Quantum saw this whole to 64 % fresh rating on
RottenTomatoes .com. The film was directed by
Mark Foster, who also directed films like Monster
Ball and Machine Gun Preacher. Daniel Craig returned
to the role of 007, joined by Olga Kirilenko
as Bond Girl Camille Montes, Matthew Almerich
as the insidious Donna McGreen, Gemma Atherton
as Strawberry Fields, as well as Jeffrey Wright,
Judi Dench, and Giancarlo Giannini reprising
the roles of Felix Leiter, Em, and Mathis respectively.
One of the special aspects of Quantum of Solace
was the fact that this was the first Bond film
to use the rebuilt Albert Broccoli 007 soundstage,
which burned down one week after Casino Real
finished filming in 2006. Also, the script for
the film was turned in just two hours before
the 2007 Writers Guild strike became official,
which many fans say contributed to the overall
quality of the film. And though it was placed
at the end of the film, Quantum was the first
film to bring back the traditional gun barrel
sequence not seen since Die Another Day in 2002.
And did you know that the film's Bond girl Olga
Kerianenko beat out 400 other actresses for the
role because director Mark Foster thought she
was the least nervous? Quantum of Solace also
holds a special place beside You Only Live Twice,
Thunderball, and From Russia With Love, as Bond
does not utter the line Bond James Bond anywhere
in the film. The film's theme song, Another Way
to Die, was performed by Jack White of the White
Stripes and Alicia Keys, a duet which was a first
for the series. Quantum of Solace is definitely
one of the worst Bond films for at least two
reasons. The script, which was pushed through
way too quickly because of the strike, would
be the main culprit here. The cast worked with
what they had and I don't really blame them for
that. The film alternates between padding and
boring so much you barely notice the action sequences.
And the second problem is the title. I'm sorry,
but what the hell was the Quantum of Solace anyway?
Anybody know? This has been Just the Facts for
Quantum of Solace. I'm JT from Saskatoon, signing
off and sending it back to M -Wire. Alright,
thank you, as always, JT from Saskatoon for those
amazing Just the Facts. Okay, cast wise, how
did you feel about Daniel Craig in his second
outing? I think he was... Alright, yeah. I feel
the same way because of the fact that casino
and this is you know, they're They're essentially
one long story there was no real time for him
to Like we said in the Brosnan era tomorrow never
dies Brosnan is is you know Still feeling around
for the you know for the comfort zone and by
world is not enough. He had he has it With this
there just was no room for Craig's acting as
bond to improve because you have to go by What
happened at the end of Royale and it just doesn't
All right, so Olga Krilenko as Camille Montez
she looks like, specifically in the scene where
she kills the general and Bon's like, you know,
hold on or come on or whatever Bon says. When
he's holding her, she just, and I know in that
moment she's supposed to look like a scared little
girl, but it's just, I don't know, the acting
on her part just didn't... Just didn't buy her
as a bond girl I just think that didn't really
give her much to work with like her character
was pretty planned I mean, she's kind of forced
into the movie a little bit She kind of just
shows up and she's kind of given like this the
same kind of bond trip We've seen before where
she's trying to get revenge for her family and
we've seen that done before and like other films
like for yours only and other bond movies and
then you also have the fact that like the the
best the issue of Vesper is in that character
is really like overshadowing in this movie pretty
greatly because you know her bond relationship
was such a strong part of that movie and It's
kind of like she never leaves like you can like
he is still interested in Vesper far more than
he is in her and like they So they never really
connect and I think in a way if there's ever
going to be a bond movie without a bond girl
This would probably be the one to do that with
because she does feel like She's just there because
they're supposed to have a bond girl because
she there's not much to her She kind of I think
I think she's a fine actor She's been on other
things like she was in seven psychopaths this
earlier this year and she was fine in that I
just think I think the biggest failure of this
movie is probably the script and the direction.
And I think with that comes a character like
hers that's easily forgettable. Right. You've
got Matthew Elmerich as Dominic Green, the main
villain. Of course, he is a leading member of
Quantum, posing as a businessman working in reforestation.
Know JT explained the plot but again same thing
with you know as yesterday with casino What was
it water rights was the plot in this like I don't
Like he was basically the unit the CIA was trying
to use him to get oil and then he was good holding
in the water and he was behind the secret organization
that was trying to overthrow the Bolivian government
and For a movie that's not that long. It's only
like a hundred and nine minutes There is a lot
of plot and there's a lot of exposition and a
lot of unnecessary information that's thrown
into this movie and I think that like the Perfect
example of it is Dominic Green and that character
just I don't know. He's so forgettable And I
think one of the worst spawn villains since,
I don't know, I think probably for me, probably
be the Wellathon enough with that with that main
character. But yeah, I just think he's I don't
know, like he is supposed to be like our first
into the Quantum of Solace, a secret organization.
And fortunately, like he I think he was kind
of a disappointment. Yeah, he was a complete
disappointment and I won't talk more about him
later in my lowlights, but You've got Jimma are
our turton as mi6 agent strawberry fields. Oh
that name isn't original Yeah Do you like some
wine with that? Yeah, I don't know. It seems
kind of out of place for this franchise. It's
supposed to try to make Bond more realistic that
they would have a character with a name like
that. It seems kind of unnecessary. She is essentially
what her name was in the beginning of GoldenEye,
the instructor. She's that type of role. Where
she's just sent out to do a job. She's not like
she isn't a spy she isn't you know, she she she
isn't like a Miranda Frost or you know, someone
like that. She's just a regular person She has
nothing to do with the espionage end of it. She's
just a regular person. Yeah and though yeah,
I'll talk about the way she dies later cuz I
Perves Wade damn it Anyway The guy playing Mathis
returns Yeah, and that was kind of honestly when
going back and you're watching this watching
this for the first time Like I remembered his
character, but I forgot a lot about it. So like
that was That was one of the main plan trying
to play catch -up. Like if you watch Kiwana Masalis
I think you need to watch Casino Royale like
almost back -to -back and think it's the best
way to experience the movie Of course Jeffrey
right his back is Felix love that that was great
I love the I Love the But not necessarily a chemistry,
but the interaction between bond and Felix in
this He's like you get 30 seconds. Good luck,
brother Yeah, I love how like like they give
kind of Felix lighter like a purpose in this
he has a conflict that he has to deal with and
We haven't seen actually have to do that before
so that was kind of cool that they gave Felix
more to do I did appreciate that. Oh Yeah, it
was so good And of course Judy Dench is back
as M apparently Forster Felt Dench was underused
in the previous films and wanted to make her
part bigger having her Interact with bond more
because she is the only woman bond doesn't see
in a sexual context I Don't know I don't know
if I agree with that statement because while
Bond doesn't bond in general since there has
been no Between casino and this there is no queue.
There is no money penny. There is no nothing
As far as those characters go We've talked before
where I thought that, you know, Moneypenny is
the one woman that Bond has enough respect for
that he won't sleep with her. It has never even
entered my mind that Judi Dench's M would be
someone that Bond would... that just not... Damn
directors. Is there anyone else in the cast that
you want to talk about? Because that's pretty
much it. I mean, Jesper Christiansen is back
as Mr. White, but he doesn't last too long. No,
I mean, there really wasn't anyone else that
really stood out all that much. Yeah. Yeah, not
really. Let's see, so, hmm. I'll tell you one
thing I don't like about this film besides the
film itself is, uh, worst Bond song ever. Oh
my God. Um, I still think that goes to Die Another
Day, but, uh, I don't know. Oh, no, at least,
at least, okay, Die Another Day is a bad song.
It is I'm not not saying I'm not I'm not gonna
sit here and defend that song But at least die
another day I could understand what the hell
Madonna was saying half the lyrics in this I
just didn't I didn't even know what the fuck
either one of them was saying I Don't know. Do
you like I guess you don't guess you're not a
white stripes fan No, not really. Yeah, I I do
I like low -wage stripes like and I like Alicia
Keys. It's a random combination I don't think
it's the best bond song But I I think I probably
I know a lot of people hate this song and I guess
I I'm indifferent towards it I kind of like the
beat to it. I like the overall the words to it
or in the vocal aspect of it is lacking but I
kind of like the beat to the song and just like
It's nothing compared to like Casino Royale and
you know my name, but I don't have a distaste
for it. Like you do I guess If it was just Alicia
Keys singing it, it might be better. I guess
I'd probably say the opposite, I think. Because
the song, to me, fits more of Jack White's type
of style than it does Alicia Keys. But I guess
if you don't like his voice, because his voice
is... No, it's a unique voice. A lot of people
may not like it. It's kind of high. But yeah,
I could understand that. You know and I actually
looked at that at that song title another way
to die and I thought to myself Where have I seen
that song title before? It was a single track
off of disturbs asylum album Same song name obviously
a different song but I was like hmm. I could
see disturbs another way to die being the theme
song for this movie be an improvement over what
we actually got um what did you uh think of the
rest of this just the score and itself for this
one um it was okay like it There's no there wasn't
really a moment that really stood out to me I
think just a lot of this film felt rushed and
I think the score for example was a perfect example
of how it didn't really do anything it kind of
just Stuck with what came before they never really
used the bond theme in interesting ways at all
and I never like usually There are some really
good reuses of the overall Bond theme song, like
I think Live and Let Die has one of the best
reuses of that song, especially the instrumental
portion of it. And this, I never felt like that
happened. So yeah, I think the score is rather
forgettable in this. Yeah, it kind of is. What
I find interesting is that Mark Ronson and Amy
Winehouse had recorded a demo track for the film.
Interesting. Yeah, that would have been pretty
interesting. Of course, it is on DVD and Blu
-ray and all that good stuff as well. I can't
believe this film actually made money, honestly.
I know most Bond films do, but on the rewatch
for my highlights I only have one thing written
down here. I love all the action scenes in this
movie. I thought they were all very well done.
I think my favorite line out of the entire film
is when they're in the airplane, and the quip
bontez about him. I thought that was hilarious.
Other than that, I don't care for this movie
at all. What about you, any highlights? I agree
with you with the action, for the most part.
I'm not a big fan of this director. He was a
strange choice for a Bond movie and honestly,
I he's only done much that I've really enjoyed
I think his only movie that I feel has been good.
It was stranger than fiction Everything else
was for me like a not that great like I'm not
a big fan of monsters ball or the kite runner
Which I love the book, but I thought the movie
was lackluster Machine gun preacher. I wasn't
a fan of I think that wasn't very good either
I think a lot of people rag on the script, but
I think I think I also like to ride on direction
because I don't think he knows how to shoot action
and I think the action sequence were well staged
But they were shot poorly For the most part I
would I the one moment I did really love is the
opera sequence where you see bond kind of listening
in and As quantum is trying to you know, kind
of relay their mission to one another I love
I love that moment and like how Bonnie kind of
just intrudes and Taking pictures as he was watching
them all walk away. I love seeing bond do detective
work like that Yeah, and I love the idea of this
of a secret organization and we've had specter
and trying to kind of take that idea and modern
Modernize it to you know for a new generation.
I think that's a great idea I just think the
execution is lackluster and I'm hoping they can
go back to it. Maybe redefine a little bit better,
but I just think It was a concept like a lot
of good move bottom of films or a lot of bond
films that are ended up being disappointments
They have good concepts, but they just don't
know how to use them properly. And I think that's
the big issue with quantum I Don't ever want
to hear about quantum ever again after this movie.
I don't want to hear about the organization I
don't want them to ever use the organization
again If they're gonna do something with mi6
versus another organization bring specter like
The 21st century version of specter. Yeah, do
something like that. Don't bring in this half
-assed wannabe They just I mean they just got
the rich back to blow felt so like they could
bring blow felt back in Um, one thing I will
say that that's on the positive of quantum of
solace is every time I watched it I think I've
liked a little bit better and I think it does
like I mentioned it If you watch it right after
seeing a royale, it does tie together So much
more because you can see how they connect and
they connect I think that connection kind of
strength it in a way, but also if you watch them
separately it can kind of can Dull your enjoyment
like it did for me in my first viewing so I will
say that there's not many there are bad movies
that you hate more and more but this is one that
I've watched I still I was still not in love
with it, but I think I've watched it multiple
times And I think every time I've watched it.
I think I my hatred towards it has lessened and
lessened a little bit a little bit more Whereas
I'm on the opposite end I did watch two weeks
ago before we recorded this I did watch casino
in this back -to -back because I wanted to see
how you know if you did watch them back -to -back
if I would have the reaction that you you know
you would think that you would have with understanding
more of it because of the fact that they are
tied together so well and When I went to watch
it, you know this week where you know or this
time around Just watched it on its own and every
time I've watched it on its own. I Hate it more
and more. I will never watch this movie ever
again. This is This is by far Second only to
want her majesty's secret service in my opinion.
This is by far the worst Bond film I I wouldn't
go that far. It's definitely in the bottom five.
I would say But I wouldn't say it's the worst.
I think it's the worst of Craig film I mean,
there's only been two up to this point but yeah
so but but i could understand that i know a lot
of people i think a big part of the issue with
quantum of souls is what's came before and it
it is a disappointment i mean it is a huge drop
off from casino royale to this i mean even with
brassin i think from golden knight at 10 tomorrow
never dies i think that there was a drop off
there but it wasn't a huge drop off and i think
that was like a slow decline this one was just
a gigantic downfall like immediately i think
makes that makes it even a little bit worse when
that happens yeah this is like um if you put
craig into dying of the day and have him hanging
off the edge of the ice like what brosnan was
doing yeah car yeah that's what this movie is
it's it's hanging on a cliff by a bare fucking
thread um as far as lowlights i already mentioned
the whole superhero defeats james bond thing
in 2008 um the bond girl in this your lanko or
whatever the hell her name is she is by far one
of my least favorites she just doesn't she just
doesn't do anything for me at all a goldfinger
reference but with oil seriously yeah that okay
okay what happened in goldfinger was with jill
it was a moss i i forget where the last name
is um the thing that happened in goldfinger with
with jill was was shocking was oh my god i can't
believe they did that here Seeing the the the
teacher chick or the miss strawberry fields Seeing
her covered in oil and kind of posed the same
way that Jill was posed and gold that was just
the most Disrespectful homage I have ever seen
in a Bond franchise Yeah, it was really especially
because that character was it kind of comes in
She felt like a moment and not a character like
they just needed someone like bond to sleep with
so they needed that love scene and then They
wanted like oh we came up with this idea of how
we can homage Did you hit your mute hold on a
second What the hell happened there that was
weird, um, I don't know Just say your point again
and I'll I'll edit it out Let's go now, yeah,
okay with strawberry fields she feels like a
moment and not a character kind of just You know
She feels like she's in there so that bond can
have a sex scene and she's in there because I
thought of this idea of like oh we can cover
an oil and homage golden a goldfinger and it
just if that character had more of a Point to
her like even in goldfinger like that the character
that gets covered in gold. She's not in the movie
that much but she Has a look like has moments
to kind of let you Feel sorry for her and what
happens to her and then strawberry fields just
kind of there and goes away. So yeah that that
moment was kind of unnecessary and kind of I
think it it did more to harm the film than like
help it Sometimes the modges are nice, especially
with the bond franchise, but that one felt pandering
and pandering that failed, which is the worst
kind of pandering. Yeah, exactly. And the last
little I had was, Green's screams as he's attacking
Bond are the screams of a 13 year old girl. Such
bad acting. Oh my God. It's kind of got the body
of a 13 year old girl. That's funny. But yeah,
what do you have for lowlights besides what you
mentioned? You know, we talked about the characters
and the biggest thing about this is and it doesn't
feel like a movie a complete movie It feels like
kind of like an additional content to Casino
Royale for like a good half of the movie Maybe
two -thirds of it and then like they tie in this
extra one -third of over like plot. That's unnecessary
and boring It's just it's it's for a movie. That's
only it's like half almost half the time has
Casino Royale, it feels like double as long so
it's I don't know I just think it's it Some of
the actors show up but the director in the script
I think really bring this film down Yeah, yeah
it does Yeah, I didn't And the other thing about
this movie is that it just doesn't It doesn't
feel like a Bond movie it feels like you know
Was this remember when I mentioned to you? What
what would happen if we if they had used? Lays
and being the first part of diamonds are forever
and then switch to Connery for the rest of it
to have Lays and be handle the rest of what happened
and on her majesty secret service and this is
the same thing it's like All the revenge stuff
and all this and all it just it just doesn't
I Almost feel like what they should have done
instead of having Vesper Lynn die the way she
did Have her covered in gold painters, you know
do an homage like that in casino or something.
I don't know it quantum is just so Boring, honestly,
it just is Yeah, that's the thing is I don't
even it feels like Vesper is forgotten though
like in a way like you forget like Until you
have that end sequence, which actually is a highlight
to me is when he confronts Vesper's like I think
Boyfriend I forget her lover or whatever at the
end. Yeah, I like that moment, but she's so often
forgotten that you forget The lot of what he's
doing is because of her And his love for her
and what happened to her But then, I think...
Maybe what they could have done like this is
what they tend to do a lot is when they have
a revenge story I think over for me I'm okay
with a burnt story, but when they throw in all
this extra stuff It's just it just feels like
filler and I think they had the issue with license
to kill They had that issue with the world was
not enough and it's another big issue with this
movie quantum of solace again And then note,
you know, it's another low light the title It's
it's one of the worst titles of all time not
just with Bond movies, but of just movies in
general It makes no sense. Yeah, it doesn't I
mean it's basically I mean, there's the short
story written by Fleming But the movie doesn't
follow that short story. So why they went with
it. I don't know. It's just I Mean it it will
maybe increase your vocabulary, but that's about
all it's gonna do So we are gonna take a quick
break here and here's some ads and some other
I think I only have one or two fun clips from
quantum so we'll be back what are they are you
snoring is that the clip you yeah yeah I guess
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Quantum is solace, I think. Like I mentioned
it though. It does get better every time I watch
it. It's still ranked as one of my biggest appointment
disappointments ever It's right up there with
spider -man 3 x -men 3, you know other films
that kind of Phantom menace that had so much
promise and then kind of completely fell flat
I mean some of it wasn't its fault. I mean the
writer strike and what -have -you but still it's
just it it's a lowlight in Craig's career and
luckily We may see some better, you know some
more bright spots in his career left as we'll
talk about tomorrow, but yeah, yeah You know
I can actually watch Spider and x -men 3 I Can't
watch that. I will never watch this movie ever
again never I can actually watch Phantom Menace
and slightly enjoy it more than I enjoyed this
shit Say I want to go that far I said I said
slightly enjoy phantom. I didn't say enjoy it
all the way. I said slightly I mean the other
moments in that movie that that are good, but
uh, yeah I you know what there's fly a lot of
similarities there that both have moments of
like that work and then there's so much garbage
in between that it's hard to Remember what's
what's good about the movie? We hope you enjoyed
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