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And straight on to the morning. The time has

come. Execute order 66. Hello and welcome to

MWire. This is Movie Week in Review here on the

Geekcast Radio Network. And ladies and gentlemen,

we have reached the 200 episode club and that's

where it stops. For... 9 years now? Yeah, 9 years

now. I don't remember. Hell, it's 9 years, 200

episodes. Who the hell can keep it all straight?

Nine years now, Movie Weekend Review has been

covering movies, and this was way back when,

when Steve and I started up the network. We're

like, oh, okay, so we have all things Transformers,

we have Geekcast Radio, we have TuneCast, let's

do a movie show. So I am, of course, TFG1 Mike,

as you can clearly tell by the sound of my voice.

And joining me, as always, Steve Megatron. Who?

I don't know who that guy is. He's here. He's...

He's waiting. He's unployable. Ah, no! You were

supposed to save that for the end. Jackass. There's

no buts about it. Um... So, folks, yes, we are

ending M -Wire. I was going to find a way to

rejuvenate it. There was going to be a special

series segment called M -Wire Docs where we discussed

documentaries like Becoming Bond or... Bond.

James Bond. The Bill Finger Batman, Batman and

Bill documentary. Or the documentary about the

score, the score about the film music thing.

Like, there was going to be a whole new series

of M .Wire. There was actually going to be a

whole new design of the show and go decade by

decade and looking at double and triple features

of movies, you know, drive -in style. But sadly,

that's not happening right now because... I'm

too damn busy, you're too damn busy. Well, actually,

you've gotten a lot less busy these days. Yeah,

unfortunately. Unfortunately, yes. We won't go

into that here. But, movie we can review. I can't

believe it's been nine fucking years. It just

boggles my mind. Alright, so, let's see here.

What are some of your, like, do you remember

most of the discussions that we had had back

then about starting this show? Because I clearly

don't, obviously. Are you saying the conversations

of crafting the show? Yeah, exactly. I do know

that I brought the initial concept to you when

I was planning on doing this show originally

as Weekend at the Movies. uh through tf wire

and because that idea never took off and and

i had movie we can review as my my secondary

title um and we were in conversation because

i was doing all things transformers and you were

starting the tfg1 podcast we were like hey let's

start this thing called the geekcast radio network

let's have this giant network of shows and let's

do a movie show and we were like, uh, so what

do we want to kind of do? And we're like, well,

we don't want to do the thumbs up, thumbs down,

like Roger Ebert thing. Cause we thought that

was lame. We were like, and critics suck. So

we were like, uh, let's do our own thing where

we kind of just talk. And then we find things

that we enjoy of the, the, you know, and talk

about movies we like. And then we were like,

at some point there, there turned, uh, more of.

how do we get through this episode? Because it

sucks of the movie content. Like after we got

through it, we're like, there's not much here

to go on. And so here's your 15 minutes of fame

and then see you later. You know, some of the

movies were like that, but you know, for the

majority of it, we, we had a lot of fun with,

with a good 90 % of the shows that were on here

and kind of crafted it to be this, this kind

of. movie juggernaut of the network uh even though

it's it's had its ups and downs and and grand

hiatuses at points um yeah it uh yeah it's it's

it's it's served its run and you know cinema

geeks has been going strong we'll talk a little

bit more about that show here in a bit that's

uh optimus solo movie revolt and hard candy mandy

along with fridley cent over there we'll talk

about that in a little while, but, you know,

it's one of those things where I just mentioned

it a couple months ago. The pull bag, you know,

okay, yeah, GCRN has hit its nine -year mark.

You know, we hit ten years next year. The pull

bag has essentially been almost half of that

time. This has been there since day one. Because

this and ToonCast have the same, along with the

network, have the same anniversary, June 1st.

And it's one of those things where, holy crap,

we've been talking about movies for nine years.

You're right, it has had its ups and downs with

episodes and things. I've always tried my best

to just... turn the podcast face on and whatever

else is is infecting my life at the time nine

years ago or whatever it was just like put it

out of my mind for 35 to an hour 35 minutes to

an hour and a half or whatever but sometimes

you kind of can't help real life seeping into

podcasting so you know like when you're unemployed

It's a funny joke now. Somebody get him a job.

Somebody give him a job. I'm having fun with

this, but I really do need a job. Yeah, you do.

You're going crazy. More than usual. Back when

we started, I'm like, ooh. I can just run through

my entire three DVD shelves of movie collection

to make up the entire schedule, the entire list.

And that's what essentially we did. We kind of

both went through our entire list. Essentially,

yes. We went through our entire collections.

We've covered... Probably 95 % of what we both

had or at least what we were both interested

in because half the movies that I had that I

wrote down, you either were okay to talk about

or you enjoyed them or whatever. And those few

times that you weren't on, it was just something

that you weren't that interested in or didn't

think you could add something to. Well, it was

that or I just... I was like, I have zero interest.

Like when it came to James Bond, I was like,

uh, barf. Um, yeah. So, yeah. But that's also

the same boat for you. When I was like, I'm talking

pirates. You're like, good luck with that. Yeah,

exactly. Like we don't have, just cause we're

best friends for, you know, 10 years or so at

this point, it doesn't mean we have to like everything.

That would just be boring. That'd be weird. Yeah,

that would be really weird. Next thing you know,

we're going to start finishing each other's sentences.

Then we really have to have psychological help

done. Like stepbrothers. God, no. It's crazy,

crazy, crazy. There are plenty of movies that

we were not going to cover, ever. For the two

of us to talk about them, there were plenty of

movies we were not going to cover. Like Spice

World. Okay, well, I wouldn't say I would mind

covering that, or I wouldn't mind covering that,

but I was thinking more along the lines of, you

know, the big hairy feet people with rings and

all that. What, Lord of the Rings? There's nothing

wrong with that. The Hobbits. There's nothing

wrong with it. It's just, no. The Hobbit. It's

like the prequel we didn't need because it was

three movies of three hours apiece and it could

have been three hours. Yeah. Or three episodes,

one hour apiece. Exactly. But probably not. There

were several plans to do more spotlights and

other things. Like we had like a second Sandler

spotlight we were going to do and that kind of

thing. But it never really happened. As far as

the long list of movies goes, I think I had us

planned out to almost next year. Like when I

originally made the list. That was back in 2009.

I basically planned 10 years of this show. And

my ultimate goal was as long as we reached 100

episodes, I was fine. Anything after that is

just gravy. So the long list of movies. We had

spotlights like the Batman spotlight, which is

our first DC spotlight, which included the 89

film Returns Forever, Batman and Robin. I think

it had Batman Begins in there as well at the

time. Maybe Dark Knight. Yeah. Because I know

we did Dark Knight Rises, obviously, way, way

later. outside of that. There was the Superman

spotlight, which basically includes all of the

Superman movies, from Superman 1 to 4, Supergirl,

Returns, and Man of Steel. Brandon Routh is so

much better as the Atom. He's one of the worst

Supermen ever. Dan and I had done the Superman

spotlight. We'd also done the James Bond spotlight,

which I've always been a huge Bond fan, and especially

when Pierce Brosnan took over the role 20 years

ago, 20 -some -odd years ago now, in 95 with

Goldeneye. I absolutely loved that. You and I

did the Police Academy films, so there was that.

So we did the Mahoney and the Hightower and all

that. Let's see, what else was there? The Sandler

spotlight, like I had mentioned, which I think

it was his early stuff. So, Billy Madison. It

was like Billy Madison. It was Happy Gilmore.

Waterboy, Wedding Singer, that kind of stuff.

His good movies, not his Netflix crap. Well,

even the second spotlight was going to cover

stuff that was good. Yeah. It was the stuff that's

come since. It's like, yeah, no thank you. And

we've had plenty of other movies and other things

that we've done over the nine years. And it's

just... It's ending. Like, I mean... I will say

right now, folks, and I'll say this at the end,

there are going to be a few special episodes

here and there after this, but M .Wire is pretty

much put to bed at this point. Um, I've come

up with a new idea, uh, whether it gets off the

ground or not is a whole other can of movie worms.

But, um, this show, I know this show, a lot of

people had listened to it. I think we have like

13 reviews on iTunes. Uh, I think I could be

wrong. Um, you know. And I know a lot of people

had interacted with it and told us, oh, this

is wrong, or that's wrong, or we agree with this,

or we like your opinion on this, and everything

else. And it's been great having people interact

with us over the last nine years. But we're tired.

Well, and I think the show is tired. Yeah, it's...

Like I said a little while ago in this episode,

I had come up with a format to revamp it. And

that format is now going to be whatever the next

new movie show is that we do, if we do it. And

I felt that the new format that I'd come up with

would have been a good resurgence for this show.

But, you know, when it's time to put away the

film reels and the canisters and the digital

and all that, it's time, you know. You know,

you can't spend all of your time on the same

thing for years and years and years and just

let it degrade. And I think at this point, at

certain points throughout MWire's life, as you

said, it's probably been the one podcast that

has had the most lengthy of hiatuses. Like, it's

always come back, but... The hiatuses for MWire

were longer than we initially anticipated them

to be. Of course, there's another show on the

network that has had an almost 10 or 12 year

hiatus at this point. Anyway, I'm not going to

talk about that. That's not my show. So let's

see. Getting into this, I do want to bring up

really quickly before we get into the next topic

here. October 8th of 2013 is when MWire Weekly,

aka the future Cinema Geeks show debuted. And

they had stopped posting on the MWire feed on

June 23rd of 2014. So Cinema Geeks started out

as MWire Weekly. It eventually tried to become

Weekend at the Movies and then it became Cinema

Geeks. As I said earlier, go check out Kevin,

Amanda, Dan, and Matt over there. They do a great

job. They do essentially what you wanted to do

originally, which was include the news and include

the trailers and include this and include that

and do all these other things, which I just could

not have done at the time. I really loathe having

to produce news podcasts. See, I don't mind it

so much. I actually enjoy it because there's

always a new, fresh amount of news, plus it's

not actually reviewing anything per se. It's

reviewing the news of what, you know, basically

giving commentary, which I don't mind on that

aspect. I just don't want to watch a movie and

give commentary. Although if the money's right

and people want to pay me to do that, I will

do that and gladly accept. my punishment yeah

there yeah there's like there like i said earlier

there are three episodes which you probably will

not do um my original plan to commemorate any

anniversary here recently for m wire would be

that optimus solo and i do commentary on all

three back to the future films and now that he

and i live in the same state we could actually

do it live in person Not necessarily live streaming

on Spreaker or whatever, but just live in the

same room. So we're not having to worry about

it being over Skype or whatever. I don't know

if that's going to happen or not. But I like

commentaries every now and then. As long as everything

goes off without a hitch, I can deal with them.

They're cool. Again, it depends on the movie.

It really does. So there is that. So let's jump

on the casting couch and talk about some of these

co -hosts we've had. Obviously, there's been

you and I, because, hello, we created the show.

Optimus Solo, JT from Saskatoon, Jeremy Fine,

Dodd, Art Danner, Michael Powers, Doug Abel,

Dan Clark. All these episodes that we've done

with these guys, whether it was you and I doing

it, whether it was me doing it, or whatever,

it's just been such a blast. Because, as you

said earlier, everybody, you know, like with

the news stuff, everybody offers their own opinion,

everyone offers a different opinion. And I always

try to cater each episode to whatever co -host

actually wanted to watch and talk about the movie,

whether it was you or not, with me. I just want

to thank all of them. I know there have been

more co -hosts than that. There have been more

special guests than that. And as great and amazing

as Kevin's GCR and history document is, I could

not sit here going through the entire thing of

MWire's category, looking at each host and figuring

out which one actually had episodes on this show.

It would take us all too long to recount everyone.

So thank you to everyone who has joined the show

at some point or another. Exactly. We are going

to give our own personal and hopefully... Steve

did this right, because he tends to not do this

right. We're going to give our own personal top

ten MWire favorite episodes. We'll do honorable

mentions at the end. These are episodes we recorded,

produced, released, obviously, over the show's

nine -year lifespan that we absolutely had a

blast on doing. So what is your number ten, sir?

Um... Back to the Future. And I'll say that only

because it was our first foray into the podcast.

So I feel like it still needs an honorable mention,

even though it could probably use a redo. That's

why the commentaries were scheduled. So anyways,

yeah, the... That was the very first episode

of the podcast, and so I felt it was deserving

of a top ten. However, it's not my favorite episode.

Just because it was still a learning experience.

Right. My number ten is, I believe it was myself,

Dodd, and Double D Dennis. David Double D Dennis.

Batman Forever from the Batman Spotlight. I just

felt that that was a fun, that was something

that happened early in the show's lifespan. And

I just felt that it was super fun. And it was

super interesting to do that with them. And basically

get American versus Canadian opinions of Batman

and Val Kilmer and Nicole Kidman and all of that.

So I absolutely love that episode. What is your

number nine? Die hard. It's not a Christmas movie,

damn it. It is too. It is not. It is too. The

first one. It's a Christmas movie. So anyways,

yeah, I had to put that in there just because

I enjoyed the films and the love of the franchise

came through in that. I think I might be uncertain

on this, but wasn't Don on that episode? Of course

he was. Yeah, I thought so. Yeah. I'm pretty

sure. For me, yeah, the Die Hard episode was

super fun. And that was before there was a fifth

one. Yeah, that was right as the fourth one had

come out. That was when there were only good

ones. Exactly. For the most part. Exactly. For

me, number nine would have to be A Knight's Tale.

I love that movie. Yeah, it was you, me, and

Don. Yep. On Die Hard. But A Knight's Tale, I

love that movie. We had given it a good review.

I think it was you and I on that one. I think

so. That's the Heath Ledger movie. The one where

he's a knight and all that and whatever. I didn't

watch it, but I think I skated through it. Because

occasionally I would do that. Yeah. Guilty as

charged. But I think what the point of recording

it together was is you'd seen it and I was like,

I have zero interest in this. But this is why

you should have interest. Exactly. A Knight's

Tale is just a fun story. It's one of those things

where... Instead of having to watch Excalibur,

which Excalibur is an amazing movie, or one of

the older Arthurian legend type movies that isn't

Man of the Iron Mask or whatever. Wasn't Excalibur

the one that had Sean Connery in it? I'm not

sure. No, that was First Night. Oh, First Night.

It was him and Richard Gere and Julia Orman.

Yep, that was First Night. A Knight's Tale, it's

not really a retelling of the Arthurian legend,

but it's basically the tale of this kid from

one of the not royal towns in England, and he

basically finds out he's descendant of a royal

line, and he goes and becomes this knight character

and everything else. It's just a fun... It's

basically medieval times with rock music, and

that's why it's fun. So it's it's it's you said

he finds out he's royal He finds out that he

is from a royal line. So basically he is allowed

to be a knight because he was descendant of a

royal line. So it's not necessarily that he's

king or prince or whatever. It's Princess Diaries,

but the male version. Oh my god, no. Don't you

fucking dare. I did. No. It just took me forever

to come to that conclusion. Oh my god, that is

horrible. I've finally done it. I've created

havoc in the last episode of the show. Uh -huh.

Oh, just wait. Wait, there's more. Yeah. What

is your number eight, sir? The Mask. Because

I had so much fun with that. Yes. I love Jim

Carrey movies almost more than, actually, I will

say more than Adam Sandler films. And I go through

these periodic spotlights where actors. will

be in multiple films I watch. I will go through

not really thinking about it, but I will pick

movies where, for instance, I'll go through a

Tim Allen spotlight, or I'll go through an Adam

Sandler spotlight, a Jim Carrey spotlight, depending

on my mood, what type of movie I jump into, or

a Nicolas Cage spotlight, which is pretty much

the same movie over and over. Just different

setting. So it's a lot of fun to do one of those.

And the fact that The Mask is one of those 90s

shows that I really resonated with and loved

as a kid, I couldn't go without having this on

my list. Yeah, exactly. For me at number eight

is... Damn the man! Save the Empire! Empire Records.

I love this movie. This movie basically encapsulates

how I feel about, like, the movie is basically

about these kids at a record store and how they

all love to work there and how they all love

the music and whatever else. This, to me, is

exactly how I feel about soundtrack scores, whether

it be movie or TV or whatever, and how excited

I get for those, and how in -depth I go to be

able to review those and things like that. That's

what this movie is to me, and it has so many

good lines. Trust me, folks, not every day should

be Rex Manning Day, but still a super, super

fun film, and the recording for that was just

really, really cool. What is your number seven?

My number seven? We're waiting for spotlights,

correct? Yes. Okay. Just verifying. Galaxy Quest.

Were you on that episode? Yeah, I think so. I

don't think so. I don't think so, but I still

enjoy Galaxy Quest. I don't remember. The reason

why I say that I don't remember, because I remember

something about you saying, You recorded that?

Why didn't you contact me? I swear. I don't think

I was on it, but still I enjoy the fact that

Galaxy Quest was in this. No, you got Doug Abel.

Yeah, I got Doug for that. And Nicole Halestorm.

Oh, that's right. I was like, you dick. I was

like, I like that show. But still, I still have

to put it in there because it's the best Star

Trek parody we've ever gotten. And now the Orville

is like the best Star Trek parody we've ever

gotten. And also Star Trek Discovery is the best

Star Trek parody we've ever gotten. Had to throw

that in there. But anyways, the best film parody

we've ever gotten was Galaxy Quest with Tim Allen

playing the William Shatner -esque role. And

you have Hans Gruber in it. Yeah, that's hilarious.

The reason at the time that that... was happening

was because I thought it was an anniversary for

it, but I could be wrong. The other reason why

was because I was trying to get the soundtrack

score from La La Land Records. and it just never

came, or something happened where my contact

must have gotten busy or something, and that

happens, and that's fine, but that's one of the

reasons why. Oh, no, it was the soundtrack thing,

plus they had come out with, which this you and

I can do eventually in the poll bag. MWire is

now with fireworks in the background because

we're recording this right before the 4th of

July, and the village of Gurnee has decided to

run fireworks shows at Six Flags Great America

from now until... until the 4th of July, which

you'll be hearing this after the 4th of July.

But anyway, the reason why the Galaxy Quest episode

had happened was because, number one, it was

the soundtrack that I was trying to get, and

number two, they had just come out with a comic

series for it. It was like a little six -issue

miniseries or something that IDW had done. So

you and I can cover that at some point, because

I never did end up covering that in the pullback,

so you can still talk some sort of Galaxy Quest

thing in the future. Yeah, I remember when I

set that to publish and it released. You DM'd

me at 7 o 'clock on a Saturday morning. You asshole!

I'm like, what? What did I do? Crap. My number

7 is gone in 60 seconds. Speaking of Nicolas

Cage, it's probably... One of, if not the only

Nicolas Cage movie that I actually enjoy watching

multiple times. I just love the character of

Memphis Reigns. I love that whole movie. You've

got Delroy Lindo in there. You've got Timothy

Oliphant in there. You've got a future Doctor

Who person in there. What's his name? Oh God,

I should know this. Christopher Eccleston. He

plays the villain in Gone in 60 Seconds. And

I love the soundtrack to that movie, so that

was a super fun episode for me to put together,

being able to throw in some of the soundtrack

bits. What is your number six, sir? Okay. Spaceballs.

I'll talk about that later, but why was this

your number six? Because it took place after

the Star Wars spotlight, which was already atrocious

because it was six hours long. Technically, including

Spaceballs, it's over six hours, but the Star

Wars spotlight by itself is in total five and

a half hours. And we had running gag between

myself, Kevin, and Don against you the entire

game. Assholes. and then there was the fact that

space balls is like the best star wars parody

there ever was and uh still entertaining to this

day uh you know the radar it's jammed that's

before we ever if we ever not if we ever stop

doing geek cast radio network or if i die before

that happens uh i'll beat you there first I don't

think so. My health issues are a lot worse than

yours at this point. Anyway, we have to get an

interview with Michael Winslow. I have to have

Radar on the Geekcast Radio Network. It would

be funny to have him do a riff theme song with

a bunch of sound effects and then he's having

a one -off battle against himself. Yep. It would

be hilarious. Yes, it would. What is your number

six, sir? Didn't I just tell you Spaceballs?

Oh. I can't concentrate. My number six is...

It's a tie, but it's not really a tie. It's a

franchise more than a tie, but it is our Tron

and Tron Legacy episodes. Oh, that kind of works

because that was going to be my next one, so

I'll just talk. Okay, so that's your number five?

Yeah. Okay. Well, one, I had not seen Tron in

years. Until Legacy came out, I had never seen

the original because it came out in 1982. I was

only two years old. I had never come across my

viewing screen or anything like that. So I went

onto YouTube at the time to see if I could find

it on there. I found a full version broken up

into about ten different videos. See, I owned

it. Yeah, well, like I said. So say we all. My

stepdad actually owned the movie on VHS, and

that's how I saw it as a kid. Very cool, very

cool. And then got to see Legacy, which was like

the most awesome in the computer world movie

I'd ever seen, and then there was no movie after

that because the studio decided to be a douche.

Yeah. I was so waiting for Tron 3. They even

said, oh, Tron 3 has a new title. It's going

to be Tron Ascension. And I'm like, okay, this

is cool. Let's do this. Oh, no, it's not happening.

I'm like, oh, you've got to be kidding me already.

It's ridiculous. I was sad when they didn't come

out with it. I was very, very sad. Especially

after you see the... Tron legacy the next day,

the little special thing of, you know, who's

been helping them, that kind of thing and whatever

else. You know, it's like, I want more. Can't

have any. Damn it. They're like, you will not

pay money. You will not give us enough money.

Disney say no. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just,

I was just. sad that that never came to fruition

uh it it was so deserving plus the soundtrack

was just spectacular the original soundtrack

was spectacular and the legacy soundtrack with

daft punk doing it oh my god i i still listen

to that like i cannot not listen to it oh yeah

it's definitely it's way way awesome so So that

was your number five, huh? Alright, my number

five is a tie. Normally I don't do ties. I'm

like, make a decision, pick it. He doesn't wear

ties. Yeah, exactly. I've worn a tie exactly

once in the last almost year and never again.

It's torture. That was only because I was getting

married and the tie was purple. Anyway, number

five for me is a... tie between the Mission Impossible

episode, it was episode 130 of MWire, and it

was Doug and I talking about it, Doug Abel from

Talking About My Generation. I had been wanting

to do, we had actually done Mission Impossible

way back in the beginning. It was episode 6,

I believe. It was just like the first two or

three movies, with Chris Stapleton from Chicken

Pop Pod podcast at the time. When Mission Impossible

5 came out, I'm like, oh, we need to revisit

this. We need to say, hey, celebrating 20 years

of the IMF and whatever. Plus, I had just gotten

the interview with the Rogue Nation composer,

Joe Kramer. Joe's a great guy. That interview

was so fun to do, and he actually gave me what

you guys have heard at the beginning of this

podcast, and you'll hear at the end of this podcast

as well. I wrote out for him some super cruel

Mission Impossible. intros and outros for any

of the GCRN shows. Um, just basically, you know,

your mission, should you choose to accept it

is, is the intro. And then this podcast will

self -destruct in what I, so super cool, super

fun talking to Joe Kramer. Can't wait to see

what else he does. Um, and the tie with this

is a, triple feature film series that has plagued

the geek cast radio network since the tfg1 podcast

days especially with some of the songs that were

supposed to be you asshat especially some of

the songs that were supposed to be in the original

episode that made it in there except at a really

really slow but yes beverly hills cop you did

with that I didn't do anything yeah you say that

you say that but you did something I did nothing

to it it would not it was something with audacity

yeah audacity so screwed that up I was like what

is going on here I didn't even have a clue what

it was doing so bad but in episode 125 you know

years and years later You, myself, and Dodd,

we finally recreated it, and finally... Because

by that time, I was editing podcasts, so I was

able to do it properly, and we actually had different

editing software at the time. The first two movies

I absolutely love. I love the second movie out

of all three of them the most. The third movie's

okay. It has its moments, but it was done...

I've said this before. When you have a franchise

that, you know, movies that are going to do sequels

to each other, don't wait almost 10 years after

the first one or, you know, X number of years

after the second one. Don't, like, between Beverly

Hills Cop 2 and Cop 3, it was between 87 and

94. That's too long. That's just way too long

of a wait. Eh, look at Die Hard. They keep doing

it. Yeah, but that's because Bruce Willis will

never die. He won't even die hard. Hey, Nicholas

Cage, though, he found the Chamber of Secrets,

so that's why he never ages. That's true. Number

four for you, sir. Number four. Hmm. Serge Bueller.

Bueller. Yeah. That's another one that took us

years upon years. I think we originally did do

it under TFG1. I'm pretty sure we did. Yeah,

I'm pretty sure we did. And then when La La Land

Records again released a soundtrack to it finally,

an official soundtrack to it, we decided, hey,

and it was actually in 2016, so it was the 30th

anniversary of the film. So we're like, hey,

let's celebrate the 30th anniversary and redo

it. So we redid it. Yep. It's no problem whatsoever.

God. Alright, my number four. I know not everyone's

going to have whatever. I'm probably going to

get crap for this, but I don't care. He likes

crap. Shut up. It's episode 102 of the show.

It's the Need for Speed 2014 film with Aaron

Paul. As I said, if you listen to, I think it's...

Okay, I'm not going to be shouting louder, but

I think it's episode 170 of Cinema Geeks. I had

called in or I had sent in a voicemail for them

to play on whatever next new show they were going

to do. I didn't realize they were going to make

it its own little thing. Basically, they had

reviewed Need for Speed and I had already done

it in MWire and I wanted to give my thoughts

because I actually asked them if I could be on

that episode because... I was more of a fan of

the games than any of the hosts at Cinema Geeks

were at the time. I'd been playing the Need for

Speed franchise since Need for Speed 3 Hot Pursuit

way back in the mid to late 90s. I think it came

out in 98 or 99 or somewhere around there. So

I've been following the Need for Speed video

game franchise for years. And I've been waiting

for a Need for Speed film for years. I don't

care about the story in the film. I care about

the story, but the story in the film isn't what

matters to me. What matters to me is the cars,

the locations, and the scenery. Because if you

nail those three things, anything else is just

gravy on top for me. Because as long as you,

like I said, nail those, the cars, the scenery,

and the backgrounds, and all of that, and every

area, they nailed it. They nailed it all. And

it was just so well done. Even though the plot

is very standard for that film. There's a lot

of movies that are very standard. Ain't that

the truth. What is your number three, sir? Alright,

this is getting a little difficult. MWR 100.

All things Trek. All things Trek. I chose that

because we were supposed to do a Trek spotlight.

Film by film by film by film. And it didn't get

accomplished until just before the end. Yes.

Yeah. Again, it was a timing thing and whatever.

It was a scheduling problem. That's what I'm

saying. It was a timing thing. It was a scheduling

thing. That kind of thing. But I specifically

remember when we were going through this entire

thing in the beginning. I was like, okay, Star

Wars has to be at 75, and you're like, well,

Star Trek has to be at 100. I'm like, okay, fine,

I don't care. That's fine, that's not a problem.

So, if we had gotten to either one of those places,

which we obviously had, you know, that's what

those were going to be. It was already predetermined

that 75 would be Star Wars, and 100 would be

some sort of Star Trek or Star Trek Spotlight

or something. And you guys did get one episode

of The Spotlight done and then it never happened.

Because we were having scheduling problems. And

I think that was during the time that Kevin was

having internet issues or something. Yeah, internet

issues and life issues with job stuff coming

up. I forget what it was. But yeah, Star Trek

100 was really cool. And then, obviously, us

finishing it up with 138 and 139, basically just

doing one episode each on the classic TOS films

and then the classic TNG films. Mm -hmm. My number

three is the Thin Man three episodes that we

did. We did part one, two, and three for the

Thin Man. This is the 1934 Dashiell Hammett,

based on Dashiell Hammett's books of Nick and

Nora Charles. Jeremy Fine did that with me. I've

always loved those movies. I know you're not

really a black and white movie kind of guy. Well,

I won't say that. I'm okay with black and white.

I don't like crappy storytelling and crappy visuals.

I have watched black and white old movies from

the 60s, 50s, and I'm fine with it as long as

it's a good story. These were released to theaters

from 1934 to 1947. So they're like... The oldest

movies you would have seen. They're basically

detective movies. It's about this detective,

Nick Charles, who ends up finding all these cases

in various films. And they're really good movies.

So one of these days, I'll have to convince you

to sit down and watch them. All right. Number

two, sir. What do you got for number two? This

is a little difficult for me because I like both

of these equally. As far as the editing process,

it was fun. I don't want to choose, but it's

like choosing your two favorite edits, your two

favorite children records. I'm going to go Super

Troopers. Uh, because there was a lot that I

was able to throw in there between the 38 special,

you know, trooper with an attitude and the, uh,

far of a bit where he's a chicken. Um, so yeah,

I still haven't seen the sequel yet. I have not

either. I have one. I wasn't able to see any

of it in theater too. I have no idea when it

hits DVD. Um, so it's still on my list. It's

just not, something that i mean i've heard it's

worse than the first one because it came the

first one wasn't bad the first one wasn't bad

but it was it was definitely a cult favorite

um but it if they were recycling a lot of the

first movie concepts into the second movie i

could see where it would it would uh kind of

roll over like a ton of bricks Yeah. But it was

a lot of fun to edit. Absolutely. It looks like,

oh, it's actually coming out this month, July

17th, 2018. Yay! Yay! Because, you know, movies

don't really stay in theaters that long anymore.

It's still got a 6 .9 out of 10 on IMDb, despite

the fact that Metacritic had a 41 and Rotten

Tomatoes had it at 31%. Just going to show you

that these critic review at aggregate sites are

just total BS. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I'll see

Super Troopers 2 eventually, but... I don't know.

I just never... Honestly, I never thought the

thing was going to ever get done. Because how

they got it done was through Kickstarter or something.

Kickstarter, Indiegogo. It was Indiegogo. Okay,

well, whatever. I'm just saying it was one of

those crowdfunding service things. I think they

tripled their investment on it. Yeah, and that's

great. That's absolutely amazing. The thing I

had an issue with, because I completely almost

forgot about the fact that it had happened, was...

After the Kickstarter or Indiegogo, whatever,

the crowdfunding campaign. It was like two years

before you heard anything. Yeah, you didn't hear

anything for two years. And meanwhile, we've

got like two years of Justice League crap to

deal with. Okay, so they made $4 .6 million on

funds. And their goal was like $2 million. Cool.

And it... They were really trying to get this

thing a little bit further. Because they had

other goals that they were going to hit. Like

4 .7 was a chase scene in the movie. Which I

have no idea what that means. Only because it

never made it that far. But I guess they did

make 4 .8 million. So I guess they did get that.

I just clicked something where it updated. So

anyways. I mean, it came out on 4 -20 -2018.

I was tempted to contact them to get information

on it for Altered Geek, but it more so was like

I was just having all kinds of scheduling issues,

even trying to get one recorded. So I knew that

wasn't going to happen after a while. But yeah,

I was glad that they finally did come out with

information on it when they did. So yeah, Super

Troopers, absolutely awesome. Love that movie,

love that recording that we did for it. Number

two for me is Star Wars and Spaceballs. It's

basically a six -hour trip to a galaxy far, far

away. Whether you're going the Spaceballs route,

whether you're going the original trilogy or

the prequel trilogy. And we've kind of done...

the newer ones a little bit. I still have not

seen Solo yet. I've seen Last Jedi. Solo isn't

that bad. See, that's the thing. Everyone's saying,

oh my god, these movies suck. I watched The Last

Jedi, but for the most part, I enjoyed it. I

didn't shake my fist at it at all. I didn't want

to turn it off. Because we're in... The era of

geekdom now where we are more responsible critics

than where we were when we started. Because if

you remember, we were rotten just like that.

you know when we started critiquing films we

were like this is utter garbage who would watch

this let's give it a one out of ten you know

screw this blah blah blah like we were just downright

like hating on everything that we didn't agree

with and don't get me wrong and don't get me

wrong too there are films that do deserve a lower

rating but they you know there are redeeming

qualities and i think now that we're older we

kind of see that uh whereas the the the modern

quote unquote geek that's out there right now

are are just fanboy haters like they're just

you know this sucks you screwed me you know blah

blah blah like i think we kind of got broken

with like the transformers films and our hatred

of that and then after that we were just like

numb to it so we were like yeah i don't care

like whatever it's a film but here's the thing

though with like i'm never gonna say or agree

to that it's not if someone hates a certain thing

or dislikes it or whatever, or if someone likes

it. I don't care. Your opinion is your opinion.

I have my own opinion. Whatever. Either we agree

or we disagree. Everybody has one. Exactly. Obviously.

Here's the thing, though. Star Wars got sold

to the mouse. George Lucas is not in charge fully

anymore. It's in other people's hands. He's not

in charge at all. I know, that's what I'm saying.

It's Kathleen Kennedy who's done actually a lot

of good films. And I blame Disney, really, for

screwing the pooch because they didn't put any

promotion into it. It was all dumped into the

Avengers Infinity War. Yeah. But, like, I was

super stoked for that. Like, okay, Last Jedi,

Force Awakens. Force Awakens and Last Jedi were

the... The next two in the quote -unquote third

trilogy of the Star Wars whatever it's going

to be. Force Awakens I liked, but going back

and re -watching it before Last Jedi, I didn't

like it as much as I did Last Jedi. I enjoyed

the Force Awakens, but I think it was a hurdle

the second time around for me to get through

Finn's whole, oh, I'm going to go good thing.

it took way too damn long like yeah it it didn't

take him long in the movie but it just felt to

me like this whole thing of this whole stigma

of oh you used to be a stormtrooper you used

to be this you used to be like god whatever uh

but last jedi uh i i said this online somewhere

i forget where i said it it might have been in

the episode of alter geek that we did um if the

force awakens is supposed to be a pseudo 21st

century version of A New Hope, the original Star

Wars film. Last Jedi is a combination of Empire

and Return of the Jedi. The reason why I say

this is because it has both space battles and

on -planet battles, or not necessarily forest

battles like Endor, but it has two different

settings. It runs... One plot through two different

story threads throughout the film. And I just

felt that it was a really fun movie. I laughed

like four times legitimately at things that were

happening on the scene, on the screen. I didn't

want to get up. I didn't want to take a bathroom

break. I didn't want to go get a snack. I sat

down. I watched the movie. And I absolutely enjoyed

it. I think I did take one break because I had

to go to the grocery store to do something or

my wife and I had to go do something. But other

than that, it was probably the first movie this

year that I've actually sat through all the way

without actually doing anything else on my phone

or my computer or whatever. And I absolutely

loved it. I thought it was great. I can't wait

for Episode 9. I just cannot wait. And I'm really

excited for Solo, even though Solo is a solo

film. And supposedly, according to news articles,

they're now rethinking the Solo story things,

because apparently everyone hated Solo or something.

I forget what that news article said. But yeah,

number two for me was the Star Wars and Spaceballs

records, because the Star Wars record, we weren't

sure if we were going to get that done. Because

that was five hours in one night. It was torture.

It's torture. Cruel and unusual punishment. Yeah.

I basically fed them all to the rancor. That's

alright. We fed you to Burger King. Yeah. What

is your number one, sir? Ace Ventura. That was

my favorite film. Still one of my favorite films.

Alrighty then. I incorporated a lot of sound

effects and audio elements. It was a lot of fun

to record. A lot of fun to edit. I had a lot

to say on it. Yeah, you did. It's a film I haven't

watched in some time that I actually would not

mind going back and watching. M -Wire commentaries

20 years later. Ace Ventura. When nature calls.

No. Yes. Hell no. Yes. Hell no. And you must

be the Monopoly guy. Do not pass go. Do not collect

$200. God. Yeah, I only veto when nature calls

for one scene. The friggin' bat guano. No, the

bat guano. I was like, fuck, the mother rhino's

giving birth. And then he just comes spewing

out of the rear end of the rhino that he was

inside because the air conditioner quit. It was

so gross, but it was funny. Yeah. All right,

folks, it is time to reveal our number one favorite

MWire episodes of the past nine years. What is

your number one, sir? That was my number one.

Mike's losing it. He's like, it's the last episode.

We're out of here, people. We're out of here.

See you later. My number one is Back to the Future.

You would choose that as your number one. It

has to be. You have to have this weird thing

with symmetry. No, but it's... Well, the coolest

thing about that episode is it's probably one

of, if not the only time in the GCR in history...

That we've had two Steves and not two Mikes.

Because it's usually two Mikes and a Steve or

seven Mikes and a Steve or something. So we had

myself, you, and Steve Saylor from This Week

in Geek on that episode. And it was just a really

fun recording hearing both of our thoughts mixed

in with Snowball's thoughts as well. And that

franchise is just so fun. Please, nobody pay

attention to the false rumors of the fourth film.

That shit popped up again. I'm like, no, there

is not going to be a Back to the Future 4. No.

No, there's not. No, there's not. So that's our

top ten favorite MWire episodes. You wanted to

talk about the spotlights. What are some of your

favorite spotlights that I had not mentioned

previously in this episode? You've mentioned

them. But I still had fun editing some of them.

Police Academy. Loved that franchise. Have not

watched it in years, but I'm thinking about it.

Ace Ventura. Obviously, I mentioned that as my

number one film for the regular stuff, but Police

Academy is kind of my number one for the spotlights,

with Adam Sandler kind of close behind. And this

other one kind of holds a special spot, only

because... It took me forever to record them

all. Pirates. Pirates. And I only did the first

four. I meant to do the fifth one, but again,

that's one of those things that'll come up randomly

in the MWire feed in some point in the future.

It'll be like, hey, there's randomly an episode

of Pirates of the Caribbean 5. Because I recorded

the first three, and then there was nothing.

And then four came out. yeah um like years later

and i was like hey back for the spotlight i think

three was even delayed yeah i think i did one

two and then there was like nothing and then

i was like hey how are you going everybody like

it was just it was great but um yeah so um yeah

it it was one of my favorite spotlights just

for the fact that i could edit in some uh some

creativity and then uh uh just kind of do it

on my own it was like one of my first like m

wires like totally on my own so that's why it

was cool very cool um any other honorable mentions

you want to give out um yeah okay um I want to

talk about rating pending, NY rating pending.

Movie Revolt, Dan and I had done this episode.

We did this February 6th of 2015. And this was

basically about the... We were doing something

a little different. We talked about the documentary

about the MPAA. Basically, the one... I think

it was Philip K. Dick that did this documentary.

That he was. It was an interesting look into

sort of how the MPAA works and how ratings work

for films and things like that. And I was like,

ooh, this is kind of what got me into, like,

we were actually going to call it MWired. So

it was MWired Docs. So it would be MWired. you

know, like I said before in the podcast about

doing doc, about talking about documentary films,

certain ones that we like, like James Bond or

the Batman one or whatever. Um, and that was

very, very cool that we had done that. Other

ones that I've liked over the years. Um, there

are just so many, um, There was the Three Musketeers

episode that we did. It was the 93 film with

Mr. Charlie Sheen and Kiefer Sutherland and all

that. Duh, I'm winning. Tiger blood, Adonis DNA.

What does Roseanne have to say to all that? That's

what she sounds like. Pretty much, yeah. I love

doing, you and I had done two sets of holiday

episodes. It was episode 21 to 23 and then 76

to 78. 21 to 23 was Christmas Vacation, Jack

Frost, and A Christmas Story. Not in that order.

I think Christmas Vacation was 23 and Christmas

Story was 21. We'd done that because we'd been

doing a holiday show for ToonCast at the time.

And then later we did episodes 76 to 78, which

was the Santa Claus franchise, which I'm still

surprised there isn't a fourth film for that

series. We have to know. Tim Allen's not that

old. He can still get in the suit. That's what

she said. I mean, he is the last man standing.

That's what she said. Let's see. Yeah, there's

just plenty of stuff over the last nine years

that we've done that I just absolutely enjoy.

I'm still very proud that we're able to get nine

and a half years out of this show. I'm surprised

we made it that long. I know, right? To be honest.

I know. For those of you who might be listening

to back episodes and you'll see that after episode

139, it goes to, or no, is it 139? Yeah. After

a certain number, it changes to 197. It's because

Optimus Solo, in his infinite methdom wisdom,

has done some math to figure out how many total

episodes M .Wire had done. And when we had done

the switch from the 130 numbers to the 190 numbers,

that's the reason why. 197, 98, 99, and then

now obviously 200. So we have 200 full episodes

in total over nine years. It's just been such...

a fun, interesting journey. We're going to take

a quick break here, folks. We're going to come

back after this with final thoughts, closings,

and maybe even some teasing for what's coming

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.com. Holy rusted metal, Batman. It's been nine

years of Movie Week in Review. Let's listen back

to some classic M -Wire moments. Hello and welcome

to episode zero of the M -Wire Movie Week in

Review. This was an idea that Steve had had originally

back when, what was it, when you were doing War

Stories for TFWire? Yes. Yes. And then I kind

of ran with it. It's basically going to be a...

I say this is... I've said this the entire time.

It's going to be a genre -spanning movie review

podcast, but the only genres I do not touch is

horror and western. So maybe if we want to have

a guest co -host or something, kind of run it

that week without me or something. Maybe it's

you and somebody else that may want to do it

if you want to cover horror. I particularly don't

because I don't watch horror flicks. I had been

really thinking about this a lot since Steve

brought the idea up to me. Some of the things

we're going to be covering is 80s movies like

TFG1 Supplemental Episode 6. We covered Ferris

Bueller. And then we're going to do, I think,

the premiere episode. Episode 1, we're going

to be talking about the Back to the Future trilogy.

And I know that we're going to have Steve Snowball

-Sailor in on that with us from This Week in

Geek. Also, I want to do a Marvel spotlight talking

about all the Marvel movies with the exception

of Elektra and probably The New Punisher because,

yeah, I don't like that film. Have anything else

to add other than your dog shaking her head no?

Yes, this series will be actually pretty cool.

We will review movies. There may be DVD commentaries

at some point. I know that we're going to cover

a lot of the 80s and some early 90s movies, as

well as various movies. I mean, it won't just

be based on what time period they came out. Oh,

no. I don't know. I had also mentioned to you

that I was going to do seasonal movies, like

obviously Summer Catch, which I love that movie.

It's with Freddie Prinze Jr. and Jessica Biel

and Matthew Lillard. Bruce Davison is in that.

It's a baseball movie, and it takes place in

the summer. Obviously, summer's coming up. That'll

be something that we review after we get some

80s movies done. Also, obviously, once Christmas

and Thanksgiving, maybe when Halloween comes

around, talking about It's the Great Pumpkin,

Charlie Brown, and then Charlie Brown Thanksgiving

and stuff like that. It's going to be all over

the place. Probably won't do a... Won't start

the Marvel Spotlight stuff until probably after

the first of the year. That way we can kind of

just gear into it and work it out that way. So

yeah, that's what MWire is going to be all about.

Yes. Yes. Do you have anything else to add, Megatron?

Yes. No, actually. All righty then. So I hope

everybody listens to MWire, and we should let

everyone know that we have a new website. It's

www .geekcastradio .com. That is where all of

our podcasts will be from now on. Steve is still

in the process of setting that up. I forgot to

mention that in the Beast Wars Episode 0 thing.

But anyway, yes, go to geekrat. Go to geekcastradio

.com and download all the episodes. That's where

all things Transformers will be and TFG1 as well.

Thanks for listening. See you later. Bye. Next

Saturday night, we're sending you back to the

future. Hello and welcome to the first episode

of the Geekcast Radio's much -anticipated movie

review podcast, the MWire Movie Weekend Review.

And in this first episode, we have a very special

guest with us, Steve Snowball -Sailor from This

Week in Geek. Hello, sir. Hello, hello, hello.

It's a great pleasure to be on this great program

that is yet only one episode old. Yeah, well,

still. Anyway, today we're going to be discussing

all three Back to the Future films and the epicness

that goes along with that trilogy. So, how have

you guys been this week? Oh yeah, I should also

mention, I forgot, we also have Steve McIntyre

with us, my co -founder with Geekcast Radio.

Hello! He's your Ed McMahon to your Johnny Carson.

So what's been going on with you guys this week?

Steve, you go first because apparently you've

been shafted this episode. So why don't you go

ahead? Mostly between work and editing various

episodes of the podcast network. Not really much.

Hey, you had a light week this week, buddy. You

didn't have to deal with any TFG1 stuff, so it

was a light week for you. Yes, luckily. I thought

you were done, TFG1. Not yet. We have three episodes

left, and my other co -host on there, Michael

Wilson, forgot he had a conference to go to from

yesterday throughout the weekend. So, yeah, no,

not yet. We have three episodes left. So that's

what they're calling it these days. No, it's

an educational seminar that he's going to or

something. Oh, I'm sure it's educational. Oh,

shut up. So what's going on with you, Snowball?

Pretty much just very, very busy here. Writing.

Actually, believe it or not, I'm going to be

doing an episode of Twig right after I'm done

with this episode. So we got to hurry up. No,

I'm kidding. Granted, not all of us know a wacky

scientist that has invented a time machine. Oh,

I do. Oh, I do. Okay, well, Snowball does. But

there are more good than bad things about these

movies. While I never saw these films in theaters,

I do remember when they first came to VHS. Yes,

I said VHS. In this day and age of digital media,

DVD, Blu -ray, and everything else like that,

VHS is hardly ever heard of. and yet I can go

on Amazon and find VHS copies of the Back to

the Future films. Sort of your all's general

memories of just the film franchise in general.

Snowball, you can go first if you want. Oh, okay.

The thing is about the Back to the Future films

that I liked a lot is that it was always, especially

the first movie, because it was always fun. Yeah,

there was some issues. If you look into it further,

there's more complex issues about life, and basically

you put your mind to it, you accomplish anything,

much like you say in the movie. And there's a

lot of more issues that are involved in this,

but in general, it is just a fun movie, and that's

what I liked, especially around that time, because

since it was Steven Spielberg who was producing

these movies, and then it was also Robert Zemeckis

who directed them, Any movies that they make,

they always try to exude a sense of fun and wonderment

to their films, especially with Spielberg. And

that's what I loved about Back to the Future.

Yeah, there was a lot of technical time travel

issues that a lot of people think are just weird

and whacked out. But if you just take on it as

a film, just as... film about just for fun, then

I think that that's probably the best thing that

I could ever think of for a film, especially

back in the 80s. Oh, yes. These films, even though

the second and third one came out in 89 and 90,

these films were very much 80s films. Oh, totally.

So what are your general thoughts over there,

Megatron? Well... Overall, I really like this

series, and I have to agree with Steve. I like

the first movie the best just because there's

a lot more fun going around in it. I remember

watching these movies actually on television

because I didn't own them on VHS, but they used

to have movies on Sundays, which they don't do

anymore. And I used to sit down and watch this

every time I could find it on TV. I don't remember

what age I saw it at, but I remember that it's

always left a mark on me that I just love this

series. Yeah, I mean, I totally agree. Actually,

I added something to the script that wasn't in

your all's emails, but I remembered something.

There's an airline comic named Al April. I don't

know if you guys have ever heard of him, but

he does these things called auto -nims. What

he does is he'll take, like, Ford. and make a

sentence out of the first letters of each, like

Ford is found on road dead, flip over, read details,

you know, stuff like that. Well, he has one for

DeLorean. Don't ever lend one rich egomaniac

a lot of narcotics. Wow. I mean, that's just

not a cool saying. That's just a tip on life.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially those rich kids.

I mean, come on. Hello, and welcome to the fourth

episode of the MWire Movie Week in Review. Today,

we're going to be discussing the Die Hard film

franchise. I am TFG1 Mike, and as usual, I am

joined by Steve slash Megatron. Hello. Howdy.

And, as a super special guest is with us, Mike

the Birdman Dodd from This Week in Geek and various

other shit that he does. Hello! What's up, motherfucker?

How are you? I am alive, despite having the Black

Plague of Death flu last week. You mean the bird

flu? Yeah, it was terrible. It was the bird -slash

-swine flu from West Nile. It was terrible. Oh,

good lord. With a little bit of AIDS mixed in

there. It was terrible. Wow. Yeah. That's right,

I went there. So what have you been up to this

week, Birdman? Well, this past week I decided

to do a little bit of shopping, and I bought

my first arcade machine this past week. I'm going

to be picking it up next week. I'm going to be

restoring an X -Men vs. Street Fighter cabinet

back to original retail. I'm just looking for

side art right now. I bought my marquee last

night, which is the header that goes at the top

of the machine. And I'm currently looking at

different JAMA PCB boards. I found one that has

Marvel vs. Capcom on it, Darkstalkers, and a

bunch of other really cool games, including Mega

Man the Power Fighters. Found this all for $200.

So I'm going to be saving up my dimes and nickels

to get this thing in the new year. Yeah. Nice.

That's great. It's really, really, really sick.

It's really, really, really cool. Where the hell

are you going to put it, though? In my living

room. It's going to be awesome. I'm expanding

our game collection here at Twig. So my next

project will be a pinball machine. Yes, and since

this is your first, I think this is your first

appearance on one of our shows since TFG 116

maybe? Yes, it is. Yep. And since that time,

we have now become sound monkeys for Twig. Yes,

you have. I'm going to be putting you guys to

work for our Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle special.

We've got coming up with Playmates and 4Kids

Entertainment helping us out with that one. And

maybe, to be soft, Montreal. Actually, I might

be going to Montreal to take a look at the new

TMNT smash -up game, which will be really, really,

really cool. There may even be a publicity stunt

tied into it. We're going to have to wait and

see. I like that publicity stunt you did with

that guy with the glasses. Yep, it'll be interesting

and intense, so hopefully I get to go to Montreal

and see this really cool game come together,

which is basically Smash Bros. but with Ninja

Turtles. Yippee -ki -yay, Mr. Falcon. Well, today's

topic is the Die Hard franchise. I guess we can

go into some general memories of these films,

at least the first three at first, because the

fourth one, it was good, but... I don't think

it's as epic as the other ones. I don't know.

It was pretty goddamn cool. Let's see. When did

you guys first see these, you know, the first

three films? Well, I guess who wants to go first?

I guess you can, Mike. Okay, well, I first actually

saw these movies. A guy I used to be friends

with named Eric had told me about them, and I'm

like, well, what the hell is this? So – or actually,

no, it actually goes back farther than that.

Then I'll get into that story. I originally saw

Die Hard with a Vengeance in theaters. Yes, I'm

an old prick. So I saw that, and I didn't know

what the hell it really was. I mean, I'd seen

clips of Die Hard 1 and 2. Didn't really know

about the famous Yippee -ki -yay motherfucker

line. It didn't really take with me back then.

It was just a cool action movie. So years and

years later, I've got my first apartment. And

it's Christmas time, and I'm spending Christmas

by myself. And my friend Eric comes over to the

house, and he brings these movies with him. The

Die Hard trilogy at that time. He's like, hey,

Mike, I got some cool Christmas movies. I'm like,

all right, you're kidding me. Christmas movies

are named Die Hard. Okay, I'll bite, sure. And

we sit down and watch them, and I just thought

they were tremendously cool. I remember sitting

down, having a few drinks, just watching these

movies with shit blowing up and people getting

shot. And it really reawoken my love of action

movies like Michael Bay, and I enjoyed some of

John Mick Tiernan's earlier work with Predator

and whatnot. Although, to a lesser extent, Last

Action Hero, that movie sucked. So, yeah, I just

kind of got into it. And then Die Hard really

came back for me when a friend of mine on Twitter,

at Closet Geek Show. introduced me to the song

Die Hard by Guys Night, right? And this was just

before the fourth movie had come out, and I'm

thinking, wow, this is awesome. So I watched

the Die Hard movies again, this time with my

girlfriend, and just fell in love with the film

series yet again. Remember when we first met

John McClane? Our God picked him up from the

plane And took him down to Nakatomi Tower To

meet with Holly He came to get her back and to

be her man But Hans and his buddies fucked up

the plan And that's about when everything went

sour At the Christmas party And the terrorists

were overzealous But it was sweet when they killed

Ellen What about you, Steve? When was the first

time you saw him? Unfortunately, I have not had

time to get my hands on it this week. Yes, it's

actually sitting right here next to me. I was

watching it before we started recording tonight.

Same here, actually. Well, send me. I am TFG

and Mike. I am the host of ToonCast and MWire,

and this will be the first of one out of two

of the ToonCast -MWire crossovers. Today we are

going to be discussing Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

And I am joined by fellow podcaster and world

-renowned author of the Caffeine Collection,

Steve Snowball -Sailor of This Week in Geek.

Hello, sir. Hello, hello, hello. I say hello

three times because it's just as epic. to be

on this show. Yes, actually you'll be on two

shows. It'll be one record, but it's going to

be on both the MWire feed and the ToonCast feed.

Sweet. Slowly taking over the world. Yes, yes,

yes. So the reason why we are doing this episode,

actually it's two different number episodes.

For ToonCast, it's episode 24. For MWire, it's

episode 18 .5. So depending on which feed you're

listening to, the episode numbers will be different.

The reason why we're crossing it over for both

feeds is because Roger Rabbit, or Who Framed

Roger Rabbit, is a live action slash animation

film because they combined both live action and

traditional animation in the film. And I would

like to point out, before we get too far into

the material, that... This was not the first.

A lot of people think that Roger Rabbit was the

first ever live action meets animation. It was

not. There were several of them done in the golden

age of animation back in the 30s with Looney

Tunes. The most popular one I can remember is

You Ought to Be in Pictures. It's where Daffy

convinces Porky that he needs to go to mainstream

movie and get out of animation. and they actually

show Leon Schlesinger talking with Porky. Another

one I can think of is when Jerry Mouse of Tom

and Jerry dances with Gene Kelly. But a lot of

people seem to think, and I was one of them,

a lot of people seem to think that Roger Rabbit

was the first ever live -action and animation

film put together, but apparently it wasn't.

I think with this movie, it's more of the fact

that it was the first... kind of full -length

feature film that kind of sort of incorporated

this live action with animation. I mean, yes,

obviously it's not the absolute first, but I

think it's kind of the one that really was made

into that. Because making animation and making

live action film literally doubles the work.

So the fact that they were able to do this at

that time, that's just incredible in and of itself.

Yes, yes. So how are you, Steve? I am doing awesome.

busy, I'm tired, but it's a good busy and tired,

know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Yes, Steve just

released on the 28th of October his, what is

it, your second or third book? It is my second

book. Second audio book, it's The Caffeine Collection,

which is a dynamic Dynamic podcast? What the

hell are you guys calling it now? I don't know.

It's a dynamic audiobook. Ah, there we go, there

we go. Merry -go -round broke down. a loony selection

for a group of drunken reprobates. He's here!

Okay, we are back, and as we said in the first

part of this episode, I am joined by Steve Snowball

-Sailor. One of the reasons why I wanted to...

snowball on this episode was because he had mentioned,

was it a couple months ago, you had happened

to be watching Roger Rabbit, and I just happened

to remember, oh crap, we have a Roger Rabbit

review coming up in November. So I was like,

oh yeah, so yeah, I can probably get Steve on

for that. So yeah, that's the main reason why

you're here. What are you doing here? Work's

been kind of slow since cartoons went to color.

But I still got it, Eddie. Boop, boop, bee -doo,

boop. Yeah, you still got it. This movie was

always one of the most famous movies. Set aside

the fact that you have Steven Spielberg and Robert

Zemeckis attached to it, but Who Framed Roger

Rabbit is a 1988 fantasy comedy film directed

by, as I said, Zemeckis. and produced by Steven

Spielberg, based on Gary K. Wolfe's novel Who

Censored Roger Rabbit. Ooh, I wonder if I can

find that. I'd like to read that, actually. You

do. Yeah. The film combines the use of traditional

animation and live action with elements of film

noir. It stars Bob Hoskins, Charles Fleischer,

Christopher Lloyd, Kathleen Turner, and Joanna

Cassidy. Woofer and Roger Rabbit is set in 1947

Hollywood, where cartoon characters... referred

to as toons, commonly interact with the studio

system of classic Hollywood cinema. The film

tells the story of private investigator Eddie

Valiant caught in a mystery that involves Roger

Rabbit, an A -list toon who is framed for murder.

When did you first see this? Oh, it has to be

definitely when I was a kid. I remember watching

it, and I could never really figure out who Roger

Rabbit was at the time when I was a kid, but

all I remember of Roger Rabbit was watching the...

A little mini cartoon that they had at the beginning

of Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. That was probably

the first time I ever saw anything of Roger Rabbit

at that point. And then I remember seeing the

movie afterwards. I was like, oh, it's just like

one from Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. And I really

sort of enjoyed it. So I never really kind of

got into, I guess, the Roger Rabbit sort of.

Even to this day, I still have no idea whether

he had stuff, like there was an actual series

of Roger Rabbit, or he was specifically made

for this film. I think, now I would have to go

back and watch the special features on the DVD,

but I believe he was specially made for the film.

I believe that they made Warner Brothers -like

cartoons, like the cartoon that precedes the

movie, Tummy Trouble. Not Tommy Trouble. But

you know what I mean, the one where Baby Herman's

going after the cookie. Yes, exactly. I forget

what it's called at the present time. I'm sure

people are screaming at their iPods saying, it's

this, it's this, it's this. That is set up like

Warner Brothers and classic Disney cartoons as

far as the intro, outro. And actually on the

DVD there are, I believe it's every one that

they made at the time. And they're all on here.

I'm looking at the back here. It doesn't say.

But I know that they're all on here. The tummy

trouble one where he has to go to the hospital.

Where Jessica is dressed up as a nurse. There's

one where they go to some park. You know, there's

like three or four of them on there. But I don't

think... He wasn't mainstream. Obviously, this

film was made way after the golden age of animation,

and I know traditional animation style was starting

to come back in the 80s, obviously with them

rerunning Looney Tunes on TV and showing it more

in syndication. But I don't think he was ever

a main part. It was a fictional part of Maroon

Cartoon Studios and stuff, so I don't think it

was ever a main thing. I was eight years old

when this film came out. I don't remember exactly.

I might have seen it like maybe a year or two

after it came out, like 89 or 90, but I know

I never went to the theater and saw it. I know

I never did that. I would have loved to have

seen it in theaters. Hello and welcome to episode

19 of the MWire Movie Weekend Review. I am your

host, TFG1 Mike, and not as usual, Steve Megatron's

not here, but Kevin, Professor Boss K. Dog Thompson

from ToonCast is here. Hello. Hello. Yes, how

are you? Pretty good. I can't make all of my

shows, but I can make it on this show. Well,

it's all the same. It doesn't matter. Besides,

like I said in ToonCast 25, which... should have

already aired by the time this goes up. You know,

now that I can actually, you know, I actually

figured out that I can just call you on your

cell phone. Now that we've figured all that out.

So you, you, you should be. You what? I still

feel like a celebrity though. Give him a special

call. Yes, exactly. We're sorry. Jack Nicholson

couldn't. Couldn't appear to accept this award

in person, but we have him via satellite with

a bronze copy of a gold Oscar. The only thing

better than that would be if you had me in hologram.

All righty then. So we will be right back with

Can't Hardly Wait. At first it was all so unbelievable.

Mike Dexter wanted to date me. I know why I started

dating him. I just don't know why I did it for

so long. Well, he is the most dope guy in school.

Yeah, and school's over. This party tonight?

Amanda suddenly being single? It's fate. Fate

has opened me a window. Yo, I gots to have sex

tonight. It took me all day, but I narrowed it

down to a list of ten very lucky finalists. You

know what I'm saying? Do you think there'll be

any girls there? Are you kidding me? People may

even be having sex tonight. Have you seen Amanda

Beckett? Yeah, imagine saw her in there. I'm

thinking about asking her out, boy. Oh, God,

you're a high. I filled this with seven bottles

of vodka last September. It's been in my freezer

for... All right, y 'all, check it. Time to get

busy. Who does he think he is, Brad Pitt? And

you're like, Glennon. But with bigger boobs.

Totally bigger boobs. I can't feel my legs. I

can't feel my legs! Columbia Pictures presents

an event 18 years in the making. When you find

out who your friends really are. I don't think

she's prettier than Gwyneth. Not even. What your

future really holds. I am going to have sex with

someone at this party. And how one night can

change your life. I don't know about you. But

I really believe that there's one person out

there. And for me, it's got to be Amanda. There's

a mirror right there. Why don't you take a look,

okay? You're white. Guys like us, we are a dime

a dozen. There is fate, but it only takes you

so far because once you're there, it's up to

you to make it happen. Amanda? Can't hardly wait.

Which team has the winning play? Huntington,

Huntington, hey, hey, hey! How's it gonna be?

We are back, and unlike Tooncast, MWire doesn't

have a format at all. This is Kevin's first movie

we can review, and I basically just go through,

get the wiki information, and just go down through

the pages. It's too late to actually make an

actual format for this show. Okay, that's fine.

Yeah, yeah. So we're going to be talking about

Can't Hardly Wait. Now, when did you first, well,

first of all, this was made in 1998. So, you

know, 11 years ago, did you first see this in

theaters or did you see it on DVD or VHS or whatever?

Well, you don't know this about me unless I somehow

leaked it before, but when I was in junior high

and high school, I was, let's just say, obsessed

with Jennifer Love Hewitt. Who wasn't? I mean,

I actually owned all of her movies at the time

on VHS, even ones that nobody's heard of. So,

yeah, I saw this right away. And because of that,

I also actually know that Peter Fastinelli, who's

also in this movie, this is not actually the

first time they were in a movie together. Oh,

really? If anyone has free time and can find

it, there's a movie called Telling You that has

both Jennifer and Peter on it. And, you know,

I don't think it was ever popular. I don't even

know if it was ever in theaters, but it's worth

a watch. Yeah, I saw this right away in the theater.

On the Simplistic Reviews podcast, we talk movies.

We talk TV. We talk... Hello, Julie, what the

heck are you doing? Trying to make our spot sound

more exciting by adding explosions. Yeah, I'm

pretty sure you could have got the point across

with sound effects, not the real thing. Download

the show on iTunes or at simplisticreviews .blogspot

.com. I'm sure your insurance company will cover

that. No, they won't. No, they probably won't.

All right, folks, we are back here on Movie Week

in Review, episode 200. As we've been saying

throughout this entire podcast, thank you to

everyone who has checked out the show. Even if

you hadn't stayed with us over the last nine

years, for those of you who have, thank you so

much. Um, there is going to be something coming

after MWire. I don't know whether that will be

its own show or whether it will be under Geekcast

Radio. I'm not sure. However, we do want to give

you guys a little preview of what that is going

to be. Originally, this was my plan for revamping

MWire and continuing on past 200. So... I'm calling

it double feature decades. And the idea is we're

going to go by decade per year, double features.

So it'll be myself and Steve will be around for

certain episodes that he wants to be on. But

basically episode one is going to be airplane

and airplane too. So that episode I'll probably

have the same co -host on. but episode two is

going to, so that's 1980. So those are okay.

Technically airplane two came out after 1980,

but airplane itself came out in 1980. So the

idea here is to take two films from one year

and mash them up and, and review them. Uh, episode

two will be 1990. So Steve will be on the kindergarten

cop episode and somebody else will help me discuss

Dick Tracy. Two very different films that came

out in 1990. and so on and so forth. So, there

is that. And it's, like I said, I don't know

if it's going to be a separate show under Double

Feature Decades, its own title, or if it's going

to be a segment under GCR, like Mayhem Mics and

La La Land Lounge. I have not decided yet. We

may test it on GCR and see if people want a separate

feed of it, but... I don't know yet. So, again,

thank you to everyone who has listened to any

part of this podcast over the last nine years.

This has just been a crazy, crazy journey. And

just look at us, dude, in nine years. Look at

what the fuck has happened to us. What has happened

to us? Let's see. We got old. We got old. You

have two children now. I'm married. You know.

a lot of stuff has happened you know i after

25 years i'm no longer living in kentucky so

there's that there is that yeah uh who would

have ever thought that would have happened i

know right well i tried several times to get

out of that state you know 18 years ago or so

tried going to mississippi that worked until

it didn't and tried going back home to Massachusetts

that worked until it didn't and yada yada yada

and at just the time Louisville Kentucky was

just too easy for me to get around and do what

I needed to do and yada yada yada and you know

life is great you know this this podcast might

be ending but we have so much more at the Geekcast

Radio Network I hope everyone checks the whole

network out. As I said earlier in the very beginning

of this podcast, please, if you're looking for

movies on the Geekcast Radio Network, while it

may not be Steve and I, unless we can twist their

arm to let us come on as guest hosts, please

check out Cinema Geeks. Kevin, Amanda, Dan, and

Matt, they do amazing, amazing work over there.

Check them out. They do a weekly show, I believe.

which there hasn't been an episode recently.

Well, as of this recording, there hasn't been

an episode recently. I'm sure by the time this

is out, they'll have had a few episodes come

out. Wow. Nine years. Holy crap. Yeah. It's just

stupendous that it's been nine years. Any final

thoughts from you, sir? Anything you want to

say? Anything you want to reflect on or bring

up one final time? Well, even though the original

vision and the original name and the original

show's gone, there'll still be other content

for you to look forward to in the future. To

the future. It's time. It's time, Marty, to go

back to the future. Yep. So, yeah. And I think

in order to close this out, We're actually going

to let Doc Brown have the final say here on Movie

Week in Review from us at the Geekcast Radio

Network. Keep those film reels rolling. And now,

Dr. Emmett L. Brown. Catch you on the flip side,

everybody. If my calculations are correct, it

is now precisely October 21st, 2015. The future

has finally arrived. Yes, it is different than

we all thought. But don't worry. It just means

your future hasn't been written yet. No one's

hands. Your future is whatever you make it. So

make it a good one. Marty! You've got to come

back with me! Where? Back to the future. Hey,

Doc, we better back up. We don't have enough

road to get up to 88. Roads? Well, we're going.

We don't need roads. So until next time, unleash

the geek in you. In a world... There, I said

it. Happy?