007 – A View to a Kill Review

Ladies and gentlemen, before we get to this shaken

-not -stirred episode here in MWIRE, I have to

say, when I was grabbing the audio for this episode,

grabbing the trailer and everything else, I don't

think I ever saw the A View to a Kill trailer

before. And surprise, surprise, Optimus Prime,

Peter Cullen, does the voiceover for the trailer.

I want Peter Cullen to do more trailers, dammit.

That's freakin' awesome. Holy crap. Let's get

you shaken not stirred This man has a secret

ambition I propose the end the domination Silicon

Valley Project main strike a secret plan for

which each of you will pay me 100 million dollars

And a secret weapon We're not sure about names

mayday Someone will take care of you. Oh, you'll

see to that personally, will you? There's only

one man who can stop them. In the world of high

adventure, the highest number is still 007. with

Tanya Roberts, Grace Jones, and Christopher Walker.

Has James Bond finally met his match? Find out

this summer in A View to a Chill. Title song

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is movie role Dan. Hello. Hello, how are you?

Pretty good, pretty good. Today we're going to

be discussing the final entry in Roger Moore's

outing as Bond in A View to a Kill. Again, this

is one of those movies where I remember the song

more than the movie. And I think it's because

that this film is so 80s. It is. It has 80s and

MTV written all over it. You can just see the

influences everywhere. does and this came out

in 85 a year after Beverly Hills cop so how can

you not okay granted i was four in 1984 you weren't

even born yet well you were born but you weren't

you know you were a year you weren't even a year

yet but you were born and it's like by 87 when

Beverly Hills cop 2 came out and then by 89 when

license came out for For for the Dalton stuff

when I saw this as a kid I only saw bits and

pieces of it and really the only thing that latched

onto me was the Duran Duran song of you to a

kill And I had seen this oh god about maybe ten

years ago, I think and briefly you know kinda

like I remember watching it from beginning to

end but I don't I didn't really remember anything

really too much about it until I went back and

watched it and wow you know I'll see it was the

it was ten years now it was it was seven years

before Max Zorin would be Max Shrek Come on.

I got nothing walking Batman Beyond Yeah, man

returns. Yeah Completely forgot about that. I

think there's a lot of great roles in walking

his career. That's when I forget that he's in

that movie. Yeah So yeah This is based on as

JT will tell you in just the facts is based on

Fleming short story from a view to a kill A fourth

Bond film after The Spy Who Loved Me, Moonraker,

and Octopussy to have an entirely original screenplay.

In a view to a kill Bond is pitted against Max

Zoran who plans to destroy California's Silicon

Valley. So when did you first see this one? This

is I mentioned that the Roger Moore era is kind

of one I was not all that familiar with and That

is the case with this one again. This is one

I really didn't catch up until this year I kind

of skipped it and but this year I went back and

wanted to rewatch all the Bond movies because

it's the 50th anniversary and whatnot So this

was my first experience with of you to a kill

All right, so We're going to head it over to

JT from Saskatoon with the just the facts for

a view to a kill. As we begin a view to a kill

we see secret agent James Bond is in Siberia

to locate the body of fellow agent 003 and retrieve

a microchip. Bond is then attacked by a Russian

ski patrol but he escapes and makes his way back

to London. After Q examines the microchip, he

tells Bond and MI6 commander M that the chip

is a complete match to those produced by a company

called Zorin Industries, led by a Max Zorin.

M then takes Bond to the Ascot Raceway to observe

Zorin, who is accompanied by his Amazonian bodyguard

Mayday. When Zorin's horse, Pegasus, wins unexpectedly,

M introduces Bond to Sir Henry Tibbett, a horse

trainer, who says the horse must have been juiced,

but the tests before the race revealed nothing.

Sir Henry then suggests 007 contact Akio Abergene,

a French private investigator who has been looking

into Zorn's activities. But during their meeting

at the Eiffel Tower, Abergene is assassinated

by Mayday, who escapes by parachuting off the

tower into a waiting boat piloted by Zorn himself.

Following a lead from the deceased detective,

Bond and Sir Henry then travel to Zorn's estate

in France, where Bond poses as a rich playboy.

Bond even briefly chats with Zorn before seeing

him meet with a beautiful American woman, and

when Bond tries to question the woman, Mayday

appears and ushers the woman away. That night,

Bond and Sir Henry investigate the stables and

discover a hidden lab underneath. While searching

the lab, they are discovered by some goons, and

after they escape, Bond races back to the main

house before he is discovered as missing. Zoran,

already suspicious of Bond, goes with Mayday

to his quarters, and after they find them empty,

Mayday goes back to her room where she finds

Bond waiting for her. The next day, after surviving

a night with Mayday, Bond meets with Zoran under

the guise that he's going to purchase one of

Zoran's horses. During the meeting, Zoran scans

Bond with a hidden camera and discovers his real

identity. Zoran then invites Bond to participate

in a horse race on his personal course and provides

him with the horse Inferno, the ill -tempered

brother of Pegasus. During the race, Zorn uses

a remote in his riding crop to activate an implant

in Inferno, which causes the horse to run wildly

off the course. Zorn and his men give chase,

and Bond tries to escape when his limo shows

up, but it's Mayday who is driving the car after

killing Sir Henry when he left the estate to

contact MI6. Bond is knocked out and thrown into

the car, and then Mayday pushes the car into

a lake. Bond survives by sucking the air out

of one of the tires until the villains leave.

Later on, Zorn receives a visit from General

Gogol of the KGB, and it's revealed that Zorn

is being supported by the KGB. Gogol is displeased

with how Zorn has used his resources, and Zorn

announces that he will no longer honor their

arrangement, and maybe sends the Russians packing.

Zorn is entourage then leave for San Francisco.

While holding a business meeting on his private

blimp, Zorn reveals his true intentions. He plans

to flood Silicon Valley, thereby destroying it

and cornering the market on microchip production.

Of the businessmen who want to be involved, Zorn's

going to charge $100 million each, as well as

half their net income from the resulting monopoly.

One of the businessmen refuses, and maybe under

the guise of offering the man a drink, drops

him down some tricksters out of the blimp and

into San Francisco Bay, which leads to Zorn dropping

a line worthy of Bond himself. So, does anybody

else want to drop out? Bon finally arrives in

San Francisco, and after meeting with a CIA contact,

gets the lowdown on Zorn. He's actually a product

of Nazi experiments conducted during World War

II by his horse doctor, Dr. Mortner, who's really

a Nazi war criminal. As a result, Zorn is a genius,

but he's also completely psychotic. When Bon

goes to investigate Zorn's activities on an oil

pumping station, he runs into some KGB agents

planting an explosive mint to kill Zorn. However,

the Russians are discovered, and Bond swims ashore

trailing the female agent who got away, who also

turns out to be an old lover of his. When they

go to a local spot to relax, Bond swipes a recording

the Russians made of Zoen where he discusses

his plan, called Main Strike. After listening

to the tape, Bond then goes to meet the former

owner of the oil pumping station, Stacey Sutton,

who is also the woman he met at Zoen's estate.

Miss Sutton's family business has been bought

out by Zoen Industries, and she suspects that

he's up to no good. so Bond and the young female

team up to find out what the deal is. After sneaking

into the records office at City Hall, Bond and

Stacy find evidence that Zorn has also bought

an abandoned mine, right before they're captured

by Zorn in May Day. Zorn then kills the city

official that Bond talked to earlier in the film

and sets fire to the City Hall in order to frame

Bond for the crime. Bond and Stacy escape, after

being trapped in a burning elevator, and are

almost arrested before stealing a fire engine

and making their getaway. They travel to the

abandoned mine, where they find that Zorn plans

to cause an explosion underground that will trigger

the San Andreas and Hayward fault lines. This

will cause a double earthquake that will suck

the water out of local lakes and flood Silicon

Valley. Bond and Stacey are chased deeper into

the mine by Mayday while Zorn starts to flood

the mine killing the workers therein. He and

his last remaining henchmen Scarpeen and Dr.

Mortner then leave to await the fruition of the

plan. Meanwhile, Bonn teams up with Mayday, who

is pissed after Zorn tried to kill her as well,

to get the bomb out of the mine before it explodes.

They set it on a trolley car with a faulty handbrake,

so Mayday sacrifices herself to get the bomb

out of the mine. Zorn sees Mayday's sacrifice

from his blimp and then kidnaps Stacy, who had

managed to escape through a ventilation shaft.

Bond grabs one of the blimp's mooring lines and

hangs on as the ship rises. As they near the

Golden Gate Bridge, Bond lashes the rope to the

bridge, halting the blimp's flight. Stacey then

attacks Zorn, who which also results in Dr. Mortner

and Scarpeen being knocked out. Stacey then escapes

onto the bridge with Bond, followed by a crazed

axe wheeling Zoran, and he and Bond engage in

a vicious fight, which results in Bond knocking

Zoran off the bridge to plummet to his death.

Dr. Mortner attempts revenge with dynamite, but

Bond cuts the rope holding the blimp, which in

turn causes Mortner to drop the dynamite back

into the cabin, where it explodes, killing both

him and Scarpeen. As a result of his actions,

General Goggle awards Bond the Order of Lenin,

but he is not there to accept, and Q tracks 007

back to California, where he finds Bond ending

the mission as he always does, making love to

a woman in the shower. A view to a kill opened

in the early summer of 1985, directed by John

Glynn, who directed all of the 007 films in the

1980s. This would mark the final performance

of 007 by Sir Roger Moore, his seventh overall,

making him the longest serving actor in the role.

The cast also featured Christopher Walken as

Max Zorin, Grace Jones as Mayday, Patrick McNeigh,

TV's John Steed from The Avengers as Sir Henry

Tibbitt, and Tonya Roberts as the film's Bond

Girl Stacey Sutton. A View to a Kill made almost

$150 million at the box office, nearly five times

its original budget of $30 million. Despite being

a financial success, the film did not score well

with critics. Many critics complained about Roger

Moore's age. He was 57 at the time, and had very

noticeably aged in the two years since Octopussy.

Moore himself has said in interviews and his

own memoirs that this was not his favourite film

in the series. The critic for the Washington

Post said Moore isn't just long in the tooth,

he's got tusks, and that he's not believable.

in the action sequences. New Yorker movie critic

Pauline Kael said you'd expect some style and

flash from the film, but it just doesn't deliver

on its province. The casual fan may not know

this, but this wasn't just Sir Roger Moore's

final film as 007, but also the final appearance

of Lois Maxwell as Miss Moneypenny. Maxwell had

portrayed the object of Bond's flirtations through

14 films over the last 23 years, and had also

worked with Roger Moore previously on the same

television series in the 1960s. And you may have

noticed that little disclaimer at the beginning

of the film, the one about neither the name Zorin

nor any other name or character in the film is

meant to portray a real person or company. Well,

this was added because before the film's release,

producers discovered the existence of a fashion

design company named Zorin Latikorvik Limited.

The movie also features Ivan Dragu himself, Dolph

Lundgren, in his feature film debut as one of

Colonel Gogol's guards when he confronts Zorin.

And, not surprisingly, Duran Duran's theme song,

Dance into the Fire slash A View to a Kill, went

on to become one of the most popular Bond songs

of all time, and it held the number one spot

for two weeks of its four -month stay on the

Billboard music charts. A View to a Kill is,

was, and most likely always will be my favourite

Bond film. It has everything. It was the first

taste I ever had of the Bond franchise. It had

a kick -ass theme song. It had one of my favorite

Bond girls of all time in the form of Tanya Roberts.

Yes, even more than Gene Seymour. I can admit

this isn't the best Bond film, far from it, but

I don't give a good goddamn I love this movie.

This has been just the facts for A View to a

Kill. This is JT from Saskatoon, signing off.

thankfully by this movie he was losing his luster

much when we talked about golden gold no not

yet much when we talked about goldfinger versus

you only live twice I think that Roger Moore's

swan song is the spy who loved me he could have

just That would have been his last film and that

I would have been perfectly happy with him Not

being bond in a view to a kill I don't know 1985

standards who they would get as bond They talked

about what they talked about not for this movie,

but I think it was for the one before this they

mentioned Josh Brolin is possibly playing the

character I mean they they went to Timothy Dalton.

I mean, obviously they eventually go there. But

yeah, I don't She's my mind escapes me of who

else they could have gone with but interesting

in this they didn't try to recast more at all

they knew they were going with more and they

kept them they try to recast him before this

but I guess they wanted him to break the record

for the most bond movies or to be the longest

running bond But I think even Roger Moore has

admitted that this was to one bond too many for

him and he regrets kind of doing in this movie

Yeah, I it just doesn't It it just seems like

a really really bad Way for Him to go off, you

know Yeah, despite the spy who loved me was definitely

his high point Yeah, and raker with the one right

after that was probably his lowest point I do

enjoy we're not covering them, but I do enjoy

for your eyes only and Octopus octopus II I think

those are Two solid films. They're not the greatest

but I think they're in Roger Moore's career.

I think they're pretty pretty good. And I think

if he left After octopus, he would have been

a better choice for him. But yeah, yeah, you

can just you can tell it's not him and the action

sequences He looks tired tired the romance him

being a romantic, you know Playboy doesn't work

because he's so much older than everyone else

in the movie. It's just It's just yeah, it's

it's so so god -awfully apparent. Yeah Which

is kind of sad actually it really really is.

I mean for his age He doesn't look bad. But the

thing is when we think Bond we don't think you

know a 50 year old and we think someone maybe

30s 40s but I don't know it I think it hurts

the movie a lot having more in this movie. It

does it does because he can't Like you said,

you know, it's kind of obvious that a lot of

his his action work is is stuntman I Didn't really

mind it so much But the Eiffel Tower scene You

can tell from those That's a jump cut. I don't

mind comparing this to to on Her Majesty's Secret

Service the jump cut they used for for for the

scenes in, you know, as he's chasing Mayday up

the stairs. I didn't mind that so much because

it seemed to me that it was more fluid. But you

can tell that it's it probably is not him running

up those stairs. Yeah. Yeah, maybe like the first

flight of stairs. But after a while, you're like,

let's get the stunt done and just get him for

some reaction shots. Yeah. You got Christopher

Walken as Max Zorin. Wow, I like it. I don't

know. I can almost see this character, even though

we'll talk about his background when we get to

highlights and lowlights, but I can almost see

this character if he had slightly a different

twist on his origin being a hit of Spectre or

something like that. if his characterization

was written slightly differently. But I really

liked him in this. I thought I thought it was

pretty good. I love Crystal Walken as an actor,

and he's really great at going over the top and

being ridiculous and still working. I don't know,

maybe because I had huge expectations as him

as a as a villain, I just it didn't work for

me. I thought they kind of I don't know, they

kind of neutered him in this, I guess is the

best way best way to say it. In most of the film,

I think it's the purpose of the character where

he We don't know much about him for the most

part. He's kind of he's quiet. He doesn't say

much and It didn't work for me. I guess is the

best way to say it I never I thought I was just

disappointed I was hoping for more and I was

I think he was watered down He wasn't nearly

as crazy as he could have been Christopher Walken

could be one of the best Bond villains ever and

I just don't think he was in this Yeah You got

Tanya Roberts as Stacey Sutton the Bond girl.

I liked her. I thought it was a slightly different

take on a Bond girl because she's not that average,

but she's not that drop dead gorgeous femme fatale

type of Bond girl. She's more of that laid back,

kind of like the style of Natalia from GoldenEye.

Yeah, I do. I like her. I like her performance

and her character. I just think they have a tendency

to shoehorn her in moments. And I never really

got her overall performance. I felt it was almost

just there because they needed a bond girl So

they put her in there, but overall I like her.

I think she's she Fits that character. She's

unique like you mentioned, but I think they could

have done more with her or found a better purpose

for her Yeah You got grace Jones is Mayday Who

was essentially a villain? Yes up until she realized

that Zoran's not going to come back for her.

Yeah, I love Grace Jo. She's one of my favorite

parts of this movie, and I love her as a henchman

overall. She kind of pulls the jaws and becomes

Bond's ally. But yeah, she's great physicality.

She's really menacing. I believe she can kick

the crap out of Bond, partially because Bond's

so old, but also because she's just, I mean,

she can pull off the action sequences. I love

her in this movie. Yeah, you've got Patrick McNe

as Sir Godfrey Tibbett to his bonds ally who

helps him enter Zoran's villa and stable now

I love and again, this is probably my highlights,

but I love this character Simply for the fact

that he is a sir and he has to play. Yeah a butler.

I thought that was so cool Yeah, that was a lot

of good humor one of the he had a great character

and brought a lot of lightness to the movie that

I appreciated. Yeah, you've got Patrick. But

Chow. But Chow. Now, this guy, I was shocked

when I saw him in this because the only other

thing that I had ever seen him in before this

was the 1996 to 2000 television series, The Pretender

as the character of Sydney. And in that he is

very very very old obviously by that point, but

he just looks really old and That that I'm sure

I've seen him in other things but that that was

the man was like I know that guy I know I remember

his voice. He was also in panic room. He was

also You know in a bunch of other stuff Can't

believe he's still he's still acting today. I

mean he's he's got stuff coming up in In 2013

Wow, I never yeah, I'd not I would not have never

have gassed. He was still alive. That's crazy

Yeah I say Let's see. He was born 19. He's only

born in 1938 Wow, he looks a lot older than what

he is. So maybe that's not a good thing, but

uh But yeah, at least he's still working. I guess

you've got to give him credit for that. But no,

it was so shocking to me seeing him because I

was like, I know that guy. Where have I seen

him before? But he's so young in this. And I

was like, I know I know him. As soon as I got

all the information for the scripts and stuff,

I was like, I got a click on his name and I got

to see what else he's been in. And then I immediately

remembered he was one of the head of the institutions

in the TV series The Pretender with Michael T.

Weiss. I love him in this. I thought he was great.

Yeah, I was honestly not very familiar with any

of his work before this but I found I enjoyed

him I think he was he brought a good He I liked

how his relationship and with Christopher walking

his character worked and felt he kind of made

that character better Even though I didn't like

walking in this I kind of liked their relationship

to add You also have You've got Will Goby Gray

as Dr. Karl Mortner, the former Nazi scientist

who designed Zoran's microchips for carrying

narcotic drugs. In the German release version,

he is Polish Communist. You've got Fiona Fullerton

as Pola Ivanovova, a KGB agent sent by Gogol

to spy on Zorin. Manning Redwood as Bob Conley,

Mag Zorin's chief mining engineer. Allison Doody,

or Doddy, as Johnny, Johnny, Jenny Flex, one

of May Day's assistants. Very interesting to

see that. And this is the first, to my knowledge,

recast. Robert Brown is M. ahead of MI6. I miss

Bernard Lee. Yeah, yeah. You do feel bad that

he's no longer there. I do miss him as well.

No disrespect to Robert Brown, but I don't think

he's nearly as good as Bernard Lee. Yeah. You

got Desmond Wellen back as Q. You got Lois Maxwell

again is Miss Moneypenny. Yeah, this is her last

movie We talked about it last I think it was

spy who loved me or I could be wrong where they

try to come back and replace her with a new character

She was still there, but they had like her secretary

But I they ended up not using that right here

again, and they kept her in this and it was nice

seeing her I think Yeah, I love it. She's all

she's one of the best Bond characters and how

long she's last in the fact that she stayed with

so with all the different bonds up to this point,

so. Yeah. You got Jeffrey Keene as British Minister

of Defense Frederick Gray again. Walter Gotel

as General Goggle. Pephalon Susu as Pan Ho, one

of May Day's assistants. Daniel Benzali as W

.G. Howe, city official working in San Francisco

City Hall. He man is in this movie two years

before he would be he man. Mr. Dolph Lundgren

Early minor role as Vins one of General Gogol's

KGB henchmen. I think he should have had a longer

part in this. Yeah Well, the reason he he was

going out with Grace Jones at the time and I

guess he was just on set They ended up using

him because you know So yeah, he makes a perfect

like red grant type of character, but yeah, he's

only there for a little bit. So Wow. So you got

the final main cast member is Jean Rosery as

French private detective Achille Abergine. And

then apparently Mon Adams is said to be visible

as an extra in one of the Fisherman's Wharf scenes.

In the DVD commentary Inside of You to a Kill,

Adams explains that she was visiting her friend

Moore on location and ended up in the crowd but

admits she is unable to actually see herself

in the film. In the same documentary, director

John Glenn confirms that Adams appears as an

extra but does not specify where she is visible.

The appearance remained a mystery for years until

she was identified as standing in the background

during one of the Fisherman's Wharf scenes. As

a result, Adams appears in three Bond films,

previously in The Man with the Golden Gun and

Octopussy in 1983. So very interesting to see

her again. Even if it was by accident. Yeah,

exactly. I may have to find this picture. I may

have to crop it out of the post and I think it's

on the Wiki article for the movie. I may have

to put this in the post. It's weird to me seeing

Tanya Roberts, Roger Moore and Grace Jones in

a promotional still together. It's just so strange

because if you look at that picture right there,

it's on page four of the script, I think. Yeah.

It just they look so out of place the three of

them it does it looks like Grace Jones just kind

of walked in the frame and Roger and that she's

in She's just posing with like her crazy uncle

and before some like, you know father daughter

dance or something like that. They don't yeah,

it's just All right, so let's let's talk about

the music and of course, you know 80s 1985 Duran

Duran Uh doing the theme song of you to a kill.

What did you think of the overall theme song?

Oh, it's great. It's it's all one Uh kind of

like live and let die that I was familiar with

before I saw the movie of course because it's

It's pretty popular. I think it hit number one.

Yeah, I enjoy it. It's very 80s It's very of

the time like watch of this movie, but uh, I

enjoy it. It's a good song Good good use of the

title in the movie. Yeah. And again, I noticed

this it's Well, before I get to that, Duran Duran

was chosen to do the song after bassist John

Taylor, a lifelong Bond fan, approached producer

Cubby Broccoli at a party and somewhat drunkenly

asked, when are you going to get someone decent

to do one of your theme songs? Oh my god. I'm

guessing Paul McCartney would have an issue with

that statement, but you know. I'm guessing so

as well. But you know the whole thing about The

whole thing about this song again much like live

and let die I Knew the song beforehand and as

I watched live and let die and as I watched this

I had no idea that they incorporated instrumental

versions Into like after the title sequence like

into various bits of the film again. This is

another one of those Roger Moore films where

The Bond theme is very evident when he's, when

supposedly Roger Moore is doing stunts. You know

what I mean? It's like when, when James Bond

is out to do something or out to, you know, to

make a big moment, obviously the Bond theme comes

in. And then there's the scenes like at Stacey's

house when the instrumental version of A View

to a Kill is playing in the background. And it's

so soft and it's so, it's not like, oh my God,

I missed that. I need to go back and watch it.

You can, you can. If you're watching this and

you hear it, you're going to hear it. I mean,

you're going to notice it if you if you're like

me and you pick up on that stuff like that. I

really did like that. I thought that was great.

Yeah, I definitely agree. Some of the almost

I think almost all the bonds to use the instrumental

version of the song in some way. Some are more

noticeable or use it in better ways or some tend

to waste it. But I thought overall it was very

effective in the use of the score throughout

the movie, especially when they utilize the overall

theme of the song, the theme song. Yeah. Getting

into some highlights here for me, the car chasing

a parachute. That was funny in the beginning.

Yeah. And I do love how it, how James's car essentially

falls down a flight of stairs. Again, I referenced

this a couple weeks ago. I often do that in Grand

Theft Auto as well. I mentioned before, I love

the Butler stuff. I think that's amazing. Amazing

comedy bits of it. I have to say overall, as

far as the plot and as far as the action and

everything else, I find that The end of the film

is better than the beginning It yeah, it does

meander for a while until they finally get to

Silicon Valley It kind of it takes a while to

get there when that finally happens It kind of

kicks in the higher gear, but everything else

that kind of gets gets us to that point It's

rather relatively pointless. It doesn't seem

to really have a through line between the beginning

and the end but yeah it once we get to Actual

san francisco and we see the final plot carry

out. I think the movie gets better, but it takes

a while to get there Yeah, I love all the san

francisco scenes. I thought they're just absolutely

well done Um really enjoyed them all. Um I got

a little dizzy watching the golden gate bridge

scenes though like you i'm not too much of a

fan of heights and That was a little Unnerving

for me. I just wish they were able to maybe get

some more on location shots I understand the

the realisticness and like how that's almost

or that's not even a word But how hard that would

be because of the limitations of shooting on

top of the Golden Gate Bridge But yeah, but overall

I thought it was one of the better action moments

in the movie So what are some of your highlights

from you to a kill? I mentioned how I like Mayday

and one of my favorite kills and it is in the

car wash when she kind of Almost like a horror

movie. She kind of sneaks up and like ends up

killing him right from the behind You know in

the backseat thought that was I love how that

was shot. I think that was a great moment Yeah,

that was very well shot because you hear him

kind of scream a bit and then you don't hear

or see anything else Yeah The city hall fire

for most of the movie up to that point. I was

I was kind of bored I wasn't very invested into

the movie, but I kind of got more invested because

of that sequence. It reminded me of Paul Newman's

film. Oh Forget it at the moment, but like old

classic disaster movies I like that moment in

there and when they're in the elevator compared

to everything else. I don't like the chase after

that when he gets on the fire truck or whatever

that's a little ridiculous and that's a perfect

example swing it around no the other way swing

it around yeah it's a perfect example how Roger

Moore being old and being unbelieving those action

sequences hurts the movie because I never buy

the fact that he's on top of a fire truck just

It doesn't work. I like how crazy walking gets

at the end where he Completely kills like everyone

and it's not through a shark pit. It's not through,

you know throwing him in a piranha pit It's him

just shooting all these people. I felt that it

was strange choice because it didn't really fit

with anything more is ever done before but it

kind of I Enjoyed where that character went it

what he finally got there I like what Max Warren

became but it took forever and I think he could

have been so much better But it just if they

for some reason they just kind of held their

ground and didn't want walking the goal all crazy

I think that was a bad choice, but I liked how

they ended that character and Oh, and the opening

ski scene when he's skiing on top of the water.

That was a pretty cool stunt. It wasn't as crazy

as like Spy You Love Me, but it was fun until

like the Beach Boy song kicks in when he's snowboarding.

I think that's a little much. I think I was like,

OK, I get it. But but yeah, those were the majority

of my highlights for the movie. Yeah, the skiing

scene is where my low lights begin, because my

first issue with this film is. Again, like last

week, how the fuck can a bad guy shoot a gun

and ski at the same time without using ski poles

to balance himself? Second issue with the film.

Why the fuck is California girls playing during

the goddamn snow scene? Yeah, that was it was

because he was snowboarding and snowboarding

wasn't really popular at the time. It was. But

the problem is the song starts when he's on skis.

Yeah, it's that's my problem with it like. If

it had started when he switched to the snowboard,

I wouldn't have so much of a problem with it.

But it's the song starts playing when he's still

skiing and that I completely agree. I think that

was not needed. And it was like eye rolling.

It was it was a horrible, horrible choice. Yeah,

it was. What the hell was that animal in Stacy's

house at first? I was like, what the fuck was

that? And then I realized, oh, it was a cat because

I didn't know. when roger moore first goes in

or when bond I should say bond first goes in

and you see the thing just like just really really

fast and it's like a blink of an eye split second

and it's like what the fuck was that okay when

they drive up to the to the site i think it's

by the time they're in california it was it was

after they was it after they ditched was before

or after they ditched the fire truck i i think

it was after they ditched the fire truck they

have the other truck um the guy says it's a hard

hat area then why doesn't stacy get one when

she's in the frigging truck she gets one later

but the way that the the way that the scene is

played out is the The guard at the gate says

this is a hard hat area. You need a heart, you

know He says some of the effect of his heart

at area. You got to wear one etc. Etc. Etc and

Bond and Stacey are obviously sitting in the

truck and bonds like oh, okay You know, whatever

but only bond gets one Stacey doesn't get one

and then she gets one later But that just I was

so stupid again. I know it's a nitpick, but it

was so fucking stupid I guess I didn't want to

hide her face. I guess I don't know it probably

just a continuity area that didn't take up when

they were editing the movie. Probably so. I know

we've covered this before in our little spotlight

here, but what is it with Bond films and having

bad lip syncing again? Did Grace Jones not voice

May Day in a couple of scenes during the mining

sequences? Because somebody's... No, was it May

Day? I don't think it was. No, it wasn't May

Day. It was Bond. There was a couple of scenes

where Roger Moore's lips were not matching what

he was saying, and I know it was not a different

voice. It was just probably ADR where they go

back and re -record stuff that it just wasn't

matched up all that well. Yeah, that's, yeah,

that was really like... And the plot. Seriously?

You're gonna drown Silicon Valley? Really? Yeah,

I think that's a huge issue with this movie to

begin with I mean almost every plot We've come

up to the point and like you're going to make

the world into a giant ocean You're going to

give away free heroin. You're going to try to

you know Use these beautiful girls to poison

the entire world. The plots are all kind of ridiculous

but when you're not having a lot of fun or the

other beats are not nearly as enjoyable when

you get a plot like this where Doesn't really

make sense. It's completely crazy and there's

no Clear outcome to it and what it's really supposed

to lead to doesn't seem legitimate. I think it

makes it that much worse. So Yeah, yeah I don't

know. What did you what didn't you like about

this one? We've covered a lot of the same things

that I was talking about mostly like I was mentioning

it's With a Bond movie the pieces are almost

always the same if those pieces are working It's

great when they're not, it's not. To me, the

villain is very formidable. Grace Jones is great.

But besides that, Roger Moore, far too old action

sequences, even the ones that are there, aren't

all that interesting. There's no really great

stunt. When I'm looking back on this, I'm thinking,

OK, what's the best action beat? I would probably

say the final climax was fun. But it takes, I

mean, everything else before that, to me, wasn't

all that. Memorable it doesn't live up to what

we're under more did before there's no Like boat

sequence from liver let die. There's no crazy

stunt like inspired. Love me Besides little fight

we get at the end. There's it's kind of it. It

is a disappointment to say the least And I think

that's the worst sin to be there's being really

horrible There's being really great and then

just being forgettable and that to me is what

this movie is. It's just forgettable Yeah, I

mean I would say at first that I was gonna put

this in a post I'm not gonna do now cuz I just

don't just don't care. I thought the original

Not the original but the the scene where he's

holding on to the or bond is holding on to the

blimp Right as they like it comes up on like

a panoramic wide shot of the Golden Gate Bridge

And you kind of see him against the Golden Gate

Bridge Obviously, you know, it's far enough away

from whomever that I'm assuming it was a stunt

man You know, it's far enough away where you

can't really tell if it's Roger Moore if it's

a stunt man If it's James Bond or somebody else,

but I like that But other than that, I mean,

yeah, I mean the whole thing with the That's

why this movie drags on so much. Cut out 95 %

of the horse stuff. Yeah, I forgot all about

that though. Moment that entire plot device of

him trying to find about horse steroids And I

don't know what it has to do with the Silicon

Valley thing It's just it and there's nothing

to do with Silicon Valley. Just as with him wanting

to win all the time Yeah, it's completely pointless

I mean that moment of him doing the horse like

jump that was kind of okay but the overall point

of him going there was was useless and Yeah,

it could have been completely cut out and it

would have been a better movie or Like I said,

even if it was shortened to the point of, instead

of it being, oh, an entire night of Bond, have

it like, that whole nighttime scene where they

go downstairs, the two of them, Tippett and Bond,

they go downstairs and they check out all the

laboratory, the whole laboratory scene could

be friggin' cut. You could have it, you know,

day, you could still have the butler humor and

everything else, and then have it be night. and

have Bon do something, you know, anything else

than what he already did and then the next day

you'd have the horse jumping sequence and everything

else and it would be fine. Just cut out all the

shit at the lab. That was just dumb because it

made, it had nothing to do with the plot. The

only thing it had to do with the plot was the

whole horse jumping scene, not all of the horse

jumping scene, the whole horses scene in the

very beginning, like the sale of the horses.

The only reason why that was there was so we

could get introduced to whomever at the time,

because we didn't know, the audience didn't know

who Stacey was. The only reason why that beginning

part of that scene is there is to introduce her.

And again, that's a big... Issue with that character

as a whole they just need to fuck on a place

where and they never really accomplished that

they just okay That whole moment was just there

because of that character to me That's not a

legitimate reason to have it and like you mentioned

they couldn't get rid of it and figure out a

better way But they just weren't able to No,

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where at the end of every actor's film, You know

run with bond. We're gonna talk about You know

in general how we felt about their run as bond

I know we haven't done this before in the shaken

out service about like we should have been doing

it from the very beginning and we kind of did

it a little bit between gold and damn it gold

finger and and You only live twice and I know

Connery came back and everything else, but we're

not really you know we didn't really focus on

those but Final thoughts on Roger Moore's last

outing of you to a kill sir The best way to describe

this movie. It's like a plain piece of bread.

You can eat it and You don't it will maybe fill

you up. It will pass the time but every moment

you're eating it you just want something better

and at the end you don't feel that great about

yourself and That to me is a beauty to kill if

I this is more doing one too many. This is Not

his worst movie, but his most forgettable one

Yeah I love the song. I love the San Francisco

scenes in this More with the quote -unquote Bond

girls is just it's too friggin creepy at this

point the dudes way too old James Bond should

not be that you know should not be shown this

old Don't think you know you said it was last

week of the week before you know somewhere between

Early mid 30s to you know early you know late

30s early 40s is is where he kind of lies And

how old Stacey was probably what in our 20s Yeah,

somewhere like mid to late 20s, a little bit

maybe. I would say somewhere between 25 and 27.

Age difference is fine, but that's too much of

an age difference in my opinion. I like the movie

for the song, but other than that, it's really

not that great of a Bond movie. On that note,

Roger Moore mentioned that I think he was older

than The bond girl's mother. I think that's when

he realized okay It's time for me to end when

the bond like I'm older than your mother There's

there's something wrong with us. So like he finally

decided to end after this. So yeah Yeah, that's

a little nuts. Yeah Overall thoughts on the Moore

era, sir? I enjoy Roger Moore as James Bond.

I appreciate the fact that he knew what he was

good at. He knew what he was bad at. So he didn't

try to be Connery. He didn't try to be Lazenby,

though I don't know why he'd want to be. And

he played up. He was a lot of fun. He wasn't

very serious. His films were a lot lighter. And

I enjoyed them. I think he has a lot of bad films.

Maybe not a lot. He has a few bad films. Enjoy

a lot of them. Um, I love spy. You love me of

you, too I love I live and let die even some

of the ones we're not going over. Um, I appreciate

what he did with the character and I think a

lot of what we think of bond was a lot of what

Roger Ward did and I think he's I think some

people, for some reason, before going into this,

I always had a feeling people weren't a big fan

of him or looked at him as Lester than Sean Connery.

And I don't think he's as good as Connery, but

he never tries to be. He does something completely

different. Yeah, exactly. Same thing for me.

Even the ones we weren't going to cover, we would

have loved to cover them. But again, as I said,

with holidays and everything else, we just don't

have the time to cover them all. I know a lot

of people are going to be, oh, it's sacrilege

not to cover octopus -y, et cetera, et cetera,

et cetera. I think overall, Moore had a good

run. There are a number of stinkers. in here

like moon raker like a view to a kill just suffers

from just overall bad plot and the fact that

it's his last one all that but overall i liked

him as bond in general um i thought he did a

you know fairly decent job with it so And now

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