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10 Things I Hate About You Review

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Army brat? Yeah, my dad is, uh... That's enough.
I'm sure you won't find Padua any different than
your old schools. Same little ass -wife, shit
for brains everywhere. Excuse me? Did you just
say... Am I in the right office? Not anymore,
you're not. I've got deviance to see and a novel
to finish. Now, scoot. Scoot! Hello. Michael
Ekman. I'm supposed to show you around. Oh, hi.
Thank God. You know, normally they send down
one of those audio -visual geeks. No, I do. I
know what you mean. Hey, Michael, where should
I put the slides? Michael. So, uh, Cameron, here's
the breakdown. Over there, we've got your basic
beautiful people. Now, listen, unless they talk
to you first, don't bother. Oh, wait. Is that
your rule or theirs? Watch. Hey there. Eat me.
You see that? To the left. We have the coffee
kids. That was Costa Rican butt head? Very edgy.
Don't make any sudden movements around it. These
delusional are your white rastas. They're big
Marley fans. They think they're black. Semi -political,
but mostly... Smoke a lot of weed? Yeah. These
guys... Wait, wait. Let me guess. Cowboys? Yeah,
but the closest they've come to a cow is McDonald's.
These are your future MBAs. We're all Ivy League
accepted. Yuppie Greed is back, my friend. Hey,
guys. How you doing? Close it, Boogie. Yesterday,
I was their god. What happened? Boogie Lowenstein
started a rumor that I... that I'd buy my eyes
out at an outlet mall. So they kicked you out?
Hustle takeover. But don't worry. He'll pay.
Now, over here... Oh, my God. What group is she
in? You don't even think about a group? Bianca
Stratford, she's a softie. I burn, I pine, I
perish. Of course you do. You know, she's beautiful
and deep, I'm sure. Yeah, but see, there's a
difference between light and love. Because I
like my sketchers, but I love my Prada backpack.
But I love my sketchers. That's because you don't
have a Prada backpack. Oh. Listen. Forget her,
incredibly uptight father, and it's a widely
known fact that the Stratford sisters aren't
allowed to date. Uh -huh. Yeah. Whatever. Hello
and welcome to M .Y .R. Movie Weekend Review,
brought to you by the GeekCaster Radio Network
and Audible .com. I am one of your hosts, Steve,
John, Mike, and joining me is Tara, the rising
star. Hello. Hey, it's great to be back. Yes,
yes, and we are here today to talk about that
1999 classic, Ten Things I Hate About You. I
love this movie Yeah, it's so good It's just
so good. When did you first see this? I actually
did see it when it first came out in theaters
in I actually did in 1999. I think I'm pretty
sure I well I'm obviously I went with my parents
to see it and I think I was only around eight
or yeah, I was eight years old when I first saw
it and I'll be honest some of it probably did
go a little over my head, but it was so funny.
And then I rewatched it when I was 14 years old
and I really enjoyed watching it. It was fantastic.
And even now at 22 years of age, I still love
this movie and have it on my iPhone, have it
on my laptop. Oh my God. You do not get bored
watching this movie. It's just hilarious. And
Heath Ledger, I mean, come on. Yeah, I mean it's
sad he's gone now, but when you watch this movie,
it's just It reminds you of him and It's part
of my childhood. That's all I can say Yeah It's
just it's such it's such a good movie, you know
out of all the teen rom -com kinds of things
that had come out the mid to late 90s early 2000s
This is one of the ones that really still to
this day stands out sure It's a little dated,
but I guarantee you the scene where? Michael
is is telling Cameron about the clicks I guarantee
you go into any high school, and you're probably
not gonna have the exact same clicks as what's
in the movie, but It's pretty damn close. Oh
they still exist today They still those clicks
still exist today Right, but what I'm saying
is like, you know, you might not have coffee
heads, you might have pot heads, you might have,
you know what I'm saying? Like, not every single,
like, sure you're gonna have the brain, sure
you're gonna have the jocks. Those are the two
that are pretty much are gonna be in every school,
but like the other ones... That they had mentioned,
you know those can vary from school to school.
I think those were just added I think for comedic
comedic effect to be honest Yeah, I mean I've
never heard of some of the clicks that they were
they were talking about I mean, honestly, um,
which one there was the coffee rate the coffee
guys. Yeah Yeah, and the ones who um, you know,
they smoke a lot of pot I mean That we know goes
on, but there wouldn't be an actual, they wouldn't
be actually doing it sitting at a table in full
view of everybody. So I mean, that was funny.
And I think there was one about the future business
guys or something like that. Yeah, the future
MBAs, yeah. The future MBAs. And that one made
me, that one was hilarious because they were
just so, they're so prim and proper, but really
everyone thinks they're just stupid. They're
just stupid. I mean, they're smart. They're only
that snobby, right? Because I'm guessing these
kids come from really, really wealthy families.
So that's probably why. But it was just funny.
I mean, the whole movie, there's so many parts
in it that I'm sure we're going to get into throughout
this episode. But I mean, honestly, it's a great
movie to watch when you've had a really crappy
day. Oh, yeah. So right now we're gonna send
it over to JT from Saskatoon who has the plot
and some just the facts and information. We'll
be back after this. Okay then, what did everyone
think of The Sun Also Rises? I loved it. He's
so romantic. Romantic? Hemingway? He was an abusive
alcoholic misogynist who squandered half his
life hanging around Picasso trying to nail his
leftovers. As opposed to a bitter, self -righteous
hag who has no friends? Pipe down, Chachi. I
guess in this society, being male and an asshole
makes you worthy of our time. What about Sylvia
Plath or Charlotte Bronte or Simone de Beauvoir?
What'd I miss? The oppressive patriarchal values
that dictate our education. Good. Hey, hey! Mr.
Morgan, is there any chance we could get Kat
to take her mitel before she comes to class?
Someday you're gonna get bitch slapped, and I'm
not gonna do a thing to stop it. And Kat, I wanna
thank you for your point of view. I know how
difficult it must be for you to overcome all
those years of upper middle class suburban oppression.
Must be tough. But the next time you storm the
PTA, crusading for better lunch meat or whatever
it is you white girls complain about, ask them
why they can't buy a book written by a black
man. That's right, Mom! Don't even get me started
on you two. It's the first day of school at Padua
High for newcomer Cameron James, who is given
a tour by AB geek and former member of the NBA
clique Michael Ekman. Michael gives Cameron a
rundown of the school's social structure, during
which Cameron sees social butterfly Bianca Stratford
and quickly becomes smitten with her. However,
Michael pops Cameron's dreams with the fact that
Bianca's father has forbidden her to date anyone,
but he does mention that Bianca needs a French
tutor, which causes Cameron to offer his services
to Bianca despite the fact he doesn't speak any
French. But home life for Bianca is not as easy
as one may suspect. Her overprotective father
Walter is trying to get her anti -social sister
Kat to go to college closer to home, despite
Kat getting accepted to an East Coast school.
Kat distracts her dad by mentioning Bianca getting
a ride home from Joey Keegan, a male model who
once dated Kat. This causes Bianca and Walter
to get into an argument over his no -dating rule,
which Walter settles with a new rule. If Kat
dates, then Bianca can date as well. When Cameron
begins tutoring Bianca, he tries to ask her out,
but Bianca tells Cameron the rules, motivating
him and Michael to find a date for Kat. After
scoping out potential candidates, Cameron and
Michael sit on Patrick Verona, another of the
school's outcasts. But the sullen Patrick proves
to be uninterested, scaring Cameron off. Michael
then describes the deal to Joey, who agrees to
the idea to pay Patrick to date Kat, as he wants
to date Bianca as well. Oh, okay. Yeah. All right.
Are you lost? No. Actually, I just came by to
chat. We don't chat. Well, actually, I thought
that I'd run an idea by you, just to see if you're
interested. I'm not. Well, hear me out. Now,
you want Bianca, right? But, uh, she can't go
out with you because her sister is this insane
headcase and no one will go out with her, right?
Does this conversation have a purpose? What I
think you need to do is you need to hire a guy
who'll go out with her. Someone who doesn't scare
so easily. That guy? I heard he ate a live duck
once. Everything but the beak and feet. Clearly,
he's a solid investment. Cameron and Michael
then lay it out for Patrick, who begrudgingly
agrees to the deal. Michael suggests Patrick
ask Kat to a party, which is actually a revenge
plot on Michael's part, to get back at the guy
who got him kicked out of the NBA clique. Cameron
and Michael spread rumors that there will be
beer and dancing at the party, turning the small
gathering into a raging gager. Kat runs into
Joey at the party and angrily tells him to stay
away from her sister, but Joey, proving to be
every bit the douchebag that he appears to be,
says he can't guarantee that insinuating that
Kat knows what he's talking about. Kat, for some
reason, decides to say screw it, gets blackout
drunk and table dance. After she whacks her head
in a chandelier, Patrick comes to her rescue,
taking her outside for some fresh air. Cameron
does not fare as well at discovering Bianca was
using him so she could date Joey. However, as
the night winds down, Joey ditches Bianca for
another party, leaving her just a little bit
heartbroken. On the advice of Patrick, Cameron
decides not to give up and offers Bianca a ride
home. As he drops her off, Cameron tells Bianca
that he really does still like her, but he's
disappointed in how she used him like that. At
which point Bianca kisses Cameron, revealing
she has feelings for him as well. Patrick arrives
soon after with a drunk cat who tries to kiss
him. Patrick, having developed some feelings
for Cat despite his deal with Joey, declines
her advance saying he'd rather kiss her another
time. The next day, realizing that he's hurt
Cat and his chances of getting paid, Patrick
makes a fool of himself by saying, can't take
my eyes off of you to Cat in front of the whole
school and asks her forgiveness. However, Patrick
is hauled away to detention before she can say
anything. So, Cat sneaks into detention. flashes
Mr. Cheap into the detention monitor and breaks
Patrick out in the confusion. You know, that
old chestnut. Patrick and Cat play hooky the
rest of the day just hanging out. They eventually
go to a paintball course lobbing paint balloons
at each other before tumbling into some hay and
sharing a kiss, both giving into their feelings
for the other. As they clean up, Patrick asks
Kat to prom, still somewhat motivated by the
money. Unfortunately, Kat's feminist ways rear
their ugly head and she questions his motivations,
leading them to have a spat. You are amazingly
self -assured. Has anyone ever told you that?
I tell myself that every day, actually. Go to
the prom with me. Is that a request or a command?
Come on, go with me. No. No? Why not? Because
I don't want to because it's a stupid tradition
come on people won't expect you to go Why are
you pushing this What's in it for you oh So now
I need to have a motive to want to be with you
you tell me You need therapy you know that has
anyone ever told you that Answer the question
Patrick Nothing. There is nothing in it for me.
Just the pleasure of your company. Okay? Back
at the Stratford home, Bianca tries to get her
father to relent on his rule, but Walter stands
firm. Bianca, fed up with how Kat's attitude
keeps interfering with her own life, confronts
her big sis about it. Kat breaks down and confesses
that she used to date Joey and that they slept
together. Kat was not real comfortable with doing
it again and Joey broke up with her soon after,
but Kat retaliated by saying that she'd tell
everyone how small a package Joey has. She didn't
want to do something just because everyone else
was and that's why she's become such a social
outcast. The prom soon arrives and the Stratford
sisters go with Patrick and Cameron. Joey, still
expecting to go with Bianca in hopes of getting
it on, is told by Walter she's gone with Cameron.
The self -absorbed Joey angrily confronts Patrick
about their deal right in front of Cat. Despite
a desperate plea from Patrick, Cat angrily storms
out of the prom. Joey also punches Cameron for
ruining his plans to bed Bianca, but Bianca steps
up and decks Joey, leaving the pretentious pretty
boy with a bloody nose and a black eye. The following
day, Kat and Bianca make up after the younger
sister thanks Kat for going to prom. Not only
that, but Walter relents and tells Kat to go
to whatever school she wants, realizing that
his daughter is growing up. Later on at school,
Cat reads a poem she wrote entitled Ten Things
I Hate About You in her English class. As she
reads the poem, she also reveals not only how
she was hurt by Patrick, but also how she really
cares about him as well. Patrick is clearly moved
by the poem and Cat's honesty. After school is
over, Cat finds a guitar in the backseat of her
car from Patrick that he bought with the money
Joey paid him. Patrick admits that he was wrong
for hurting Cat and for not being honest to begin
with. Cat forgives Patrick and they kiss passionately.
ending the film. 10 Things I Hate About You opened
in theaters on March 31st 1999 and was directed
by first -time theatrical director Gilly Unger
who up until this had been known for directing
sitcoms like The John Larroquette Show and Two
Guys a Girl in a Pizza Place. The film starred
many up -and -comers in Hollywood, including
Julia Stiles as Kat Stratford, Heath Ledger in
an early film role with Patrick Verona, Larissa
Olenek as Bianca Stratford, Joseph Gordon -Levitt
as Cameron James, David Krumholtz as Michael
Ekman, Andrew Keegan as Joey Donner, and famed
funnyman Larry Miller as the girl's dad Walter
Stratford. Critics were fond of the film if the
reviews are anything to go by. Kevin Thomas of
the LA Times said that the film was wise enough
to spend generations in its appeal, and Roger
Ebert gave the film two and a half stars saying
that he liked the movie's spirit, the actors,
and some of the scenes. The music was another
thing that Ebert liked, saying it was subtle,
inventive, and cheerful. And Brad Laidman of
FilmThreat .com said the film was full of heart
and perfectly executed. There were some naysayers
of the film, most of which boiled down to them
considering the film to be another tried and
true teen rom -com, separate from the rest only
by its Shakespearean roots. Now it comes as no
surprise that there were a few other leading
men up for the role of Patrick in this movie.
Heath Ledger actually beat out Ashton Kutcher
and Josh Hartnett for the role. And though she
plays the older of the Stratford sisters by two
years, Julia Stiles is only a couple of months
older than on -screen sibling Larissa Olenek.
And this was not Miss Steil's first time performing
in a modern interpretation of one of Willie Shakespeare's
works. Two years later she would star in O, a
modern retelling of Othello alongside Mackay
Pfeiffer and Josh Hartnett. Now, as I said, the
film has some Shakespearean roots, as it's a
modern retelling of the taming of the shrew.
However, did you know that modernizing Shakespeare
has become something of a cottage industry in
TV and film in the last 15 years? Film and TV
programs such as Romeo Must Die, Sons of Anarchy,
and the upcoming Joss Whedon directed Much Ado
About Nothing have some genesis in the works
of Shakespeare. As for me, this film came out
at a time when I was just getting out of high
school. I remember hearing about it as it was
an update of Shakespeare's work, and I began
drawing comparisons to the Leo DiCaprio version
of Romeo and Juliet, thinking it was going to
be like that. Instead, I was surprised by the
deftly done modernization of the story, and was
quite entertained by the acting of the two main
leads, Styles and Ledger, and have since become
huge fans of both their works. Anytime this movie
is on TV, I stop and watch it. No problem. It's
just that good. I'm JT from Saskatoon, and this
has been Just the Facts for 10 Things I Hate
About You. Now I'm going to send it back to the
rest of the guys on MWIRE. Later. Why so serious?
You're right, she's still pissed. Sweet love,
renew thy force! Hey! Don't say shit like that
to me. People can hear you. Look, you embarrassed
the girl. Sacrifice yourself on the altar of
dignity and even the score. Listen, don't say
shit like that to him. People can hear you. So
thank you, JT, for those just the facts. As we
said before, we should probably let the listeners
know that there's a severe age range between
Tara and I. I am in my 30s, she's in her 20s,
so I saw this when I was 19. Saw this in theaters
when I was 19 in 1999 so Yes, yes, but but still
I mean, you know It's it's one of those things
where it doesn't matter what you're well, it
kind of kind of does obviously, you know It's
good thing your parents took you to see it when
you were eight But you know, it's one of those
things where not all people can watch this movie,
but anyone over a certain age or whatever you
know should be able to watch this and even if
people don't get all the references and all the
jokes you know it's still a good wholesome movie
to to watch well i shouldn't say wholesome but
it's it's a really really good film um i can't
believe alice and jannie from the west wing is
in this is the principle neither can i honestly
that's so strange to me To be honest if I could
describe this movie in one word I would say it
almost feels like a Saturday night Saturday night
live sketch in some aspects I mean, I'm just
to give an example you have the scene where he's
talking to the the jock and He and he draws a
penis on his face. I Mean that was that was just
like wow, you know in the whole movie just to
see that one scene. And he's like, I have a penis
on my face, don't I? Yep, yes you do. I mean,
back then I didn't know what the hell he had
drawn on his face. But now when you see it, you're
just like, oh man, that poor guy. I mean, I've
heard of nerds being picked on really badly.
I mean, if you see the movie, you know, Revenge
of the Nerds. But I mean... Can honestly say
I've never seen anyone when I was in high school
or whatever had a penis drawn on their face To
be quite honest never seen that but that's kind
of one of the things you can expect from this
movie it's just those kind of psych -gag kind
of things and It just you know, it's this movie
really pushed the boundaries. It kind of did
For a teen flick. I mean this was way before
you know, we had mean girls come out So this
was kind of like the 90s version of Mean Girls
if you think about it in some ways But instead
of but this is so much better. Yeah, it is it
totally it totally was I mean if and the reason
why this is better than Mean Girls is because
of the fact that this is It's an updating updated
version of taming of the shrew. So it's it's
got the whole Shakespeare thing to it and I just
I don't even think Shakespeare could have made
Mean Girls a good movie. No, not at all I mean
and then you have there was also an Amanda Bynes
movie called She's the Man Where they where they
did they did the same they did the same kind
of thing where they took a shake They took a
Shakespearean play. I forget which play it was
No, sorry. Yes. It was Twelfth Night She's the
Man and they had all the same character names
exactly the same character names and the same
kind of plot but updated version and it worked
it did definitely work but in terms of you know
just how fun in terms of how funny it was I would
definitely say that they did a better job with
10 things I hate about you yeah Yeah, so much
so much better than any of those but What are
some of your favorite scenes from this movie
my favorite scenes? My favorite scene. I have
two favorite scenes is when Heath Ledger serenades
Julia Stiles with the marching band that was
just so sweet It was so sweet. I mean, you know,
you know that there's kind of like an underhanded
thing going on there He's being paid to do this.
But it was still really sweet. I mean, how many
guys do you see just go in like, you know, with
a whole marching band and everything? It was
so funny. And then there was another scene between
them where they're in a paintball field. Playing
paintball and then they like fall on top of each
other. I thought that was really cute. And I
started making out. And then of course, the one
probably most talked about scene, which I know
when girls are going through breakups they usually
post this in their Facebook status, is the 10
things I hate about you poem that she says in
front of the class to Heath Ledger after she
finds out his true intentions. And that, I have
to be completely honest, I... When I first saw
it didn't affect me as much as it affects me
now, but I will be completely honest I do tear
up every time I see her do that And we'll get
into some trivia about that scene actually a
bit later because there was some interesting
little fact about that scene Yeah, but it just
they were these scenes really stuck with me And
like I said earlier with that that whole funny
drawing penis on his face scene. I mean, but
my favorite scenes really are the ones with Julia
Stiles, just because I mean, they're funny. And
then also, of course, with Miss Perky. I mean,
obviously Miss Perky, how she became a guidance
counselor, I do not know. But yeah, I have no
idea at all. I have no clue. I mean, I don't
know where she got her. Her credentials, I don't
know who would sign off on her being able to
work with kids, you know? Very, very inappropriate
teacher, but it works for the movie. So yeah,
those are my favorite scenes from this movie.
For me, I like the Miss Perky scenes. What I
like about those scenes is somehow Kat knows,
like... She's been to the office enough times,
maybe Miss Perkey left her laptop open because
at the end of one of the scenes, Kat's like,
I'll let you get back to Reginald's quivering
member. I remember that. Oh, man. And I love
that because it's so strange and weird and everything
else. And I love how she says to Cameron, You
won't see the school being any different than
any other school that you've been to, and then
something hits her window. She flips, she pulls
the finger, she says, same old ass wipe shit
for brains everywhere. That was the best line
in the whole movie. One of the best lines. I
like when Kat's like, take ass out of sphincter,
then drive, when she nearly runs over Michael.
Oh, man. This movie is so so awesome. It's got
everything you want in a Even though it is a
teen romantic comedy type of thing It's just
got everything you would want in any just a general
romantic comedy sense and style Getting into
the cast this was I know this for a fact you
might bring up and later in trivia, but this
was Heath Ledger's very first American role at
least on film Don't know about TV, but on film.
This was his his big breakout and it's so like
That's mainly what I knew him from and then obviously
a Knight's Tale and the Patriot and Everything
else he had done and up to the point of 2008
and I was like Wait, what's Patrick Verona doing
as the Joker? What the heck? Yeah, so awesome
And Julia Stiles, she's been in a number of stuff.
She was in this. She was in Down to You. She
was in... She was actually in... She's been in
three or four different Shakespeare stuff. Obviously
this, you know, Ten Things to Do About You is
a reimagining of Taming of the Shrew. She was
in Hamlet in 2000. She was in O. in 2001 with
Makai Pfeiffer. She was in the Bourne series
for a couple of films. She was in, well she was
in Supremacy and Ultimatum. She's got a really
interesting filmography as far as that goes.
And then of course you've got Joseph Gordon -Levitt
who was Robin in The Dark Knight, oh I'm sorry,
John Blake in The Dark Knight Rises. It's so
strange to me watching this movie again and watching
Dark Knight Rises right afterwards. I have to
agree with that. Well it's strange because Joseph
Gordon -Levitt, all he's done is aged. His voice
has changed, it has deepened a little bit, but
if you watch Cameron and you watch John Blake...
Same person. Same, same character. Same person,
but it's like, and I know it's the same person,
but it seems like he didn't, he didn't do like,
like normally when, when, when men hit puberty,
either the bottom drops out or, you know, something
happens to them where it's They might sound something
like this when they're 12, and then they sound
something like this when they're 14. Yeah, exactly.
And he didn't have that happen to him, and I
absolutely love it. And then Larissa Olenek.
I haven't seen her in anything since this. There
have I. I don't even know what happened to her.
I'm looking at her filmography now. She was in
Well, the first thing she ever did was in 95
with the babysitters club and then this ten things
they hate about you She was in Born Yesterday
She's got a movie coming up this year BFFs and
next year ghosts She's mainly been on TV. She
was in psych for an episode She was in Boy Meets
World for a couple episodes. Oh, she played Dana
Prude on Boy Meets World. Okay, that's Interesting
But like past this like before this movie and
after this movie I had nuts like unless I really
recognized her I didn't see anything really like
this really wasn't like a breakout for her like
she didn't become as big as Heath Ledger or Julia
Stiles Right. No, not at all and then you've
got michael ekman david krumholtz david krumholtz
is all over the place oh man um he's in he was
in uh... an episode of uh... season four an episode
of law and order uh... most people will know
him as bernard the elf from the santa claus uh...
he's in uh... a bunch of other stuff he was in
the ER he was in How to Kill Your Neighbor's
Dog, The Mexican, Two Can Play That Game, Big
Shot Convessions of a Campus Bookie, he was in
Numbers on CBS, he was in another episode of
Law and Order SVU, he's had several, which really
make me sad though, he's had several failed television
series, The Playboy Club on NBC, lasted three
episodes two years ago. And last year he and
a bunch of other people started this comedy called
Partners, which didn't last that long on CBS.
What's interesting to me is he's gonna be, or
he is in... the first season of HBO's The Newsroom,
which he has a recurring role in that. I have
not watched all of The Newsroom yet, but he's
just an amazing actor. He's just one of those
guys. Don't just judge him by this character
from Ten Things, because he has so much range.
I agree with that 100%. I mean, look at Bernard.
Oh, yeah. One of the best characters from the
Santa Claus series. Yeah, that's so true And
then again a lot of these people in here a lot
of the the secondary people in here even though
Andrew Keegan who is Joey Donner is the main
protagonist Like I don't recognize them from
stuff other than this movie. I think it's just
I feel like maybe they did this movie And then
they moved on to other things. That's what I
feel like happens. I don't think I did. Well,
I'm looking at his filmography, and okay, he
and Julia Stiles were both in O in 2001. Okay,
so that's good. But past that, The Contract,
Pandora, Midsummer Night Rave, Perfect Opposites,
Extreme dating, cruel world, a new wave. I mean,
granted, he's been on a bunch of TV stuff, but
as far as film stuff, I don't recognize a lot
of the stuff that he's done. For TV, he's been
on Full House, he was on Baywatch. He got his
start in 1991 on Empty Nest. He was on Step by
Step, Party of Five, Seventh Heaven House. recently
as of two or three years ago he was on a couple
of the CSI shows so he's been in stuff but again
it's like I don't see him like I see some of
the other people in the cast exactly so it just
makes you think that he just you know he just
he's like one of those stars that just had you
know one memorable film and then you don't know
what the hell happened Yeah, that's kind of it.
You know I to be honest with you though. Do we
really care about what happened to Andrew Keegan?
I'm just thinking like we really care not to
do. I don't care what happened to his character,
but I mean He did act the role good, so I mean
it's not you know he his acting was well done
in that role, so And then Larry Miller everybody
and their uncle should know Larry Miller has
been everywhere nutty professor almost an angel
first film role according to wikipedia pretty
woman waiting for guffman for rich or poor chairman
of the board pros and cons and that was all this
is all stuff before ten things he was the voice
of xr on buzz lightyear star command the adventure
begins He was in a guy thing. He was in the princess
diaries Pretty much like I said anyone and it's
it's not necessarily Larry's Well, I'm not saying
he's a bad actor he isn't far from it, but most
of the time It's not necessarily his physical
appearance that people remember. It's his voice.
That's true And he also reprises the same role
in the TV series of the same name. Yeah, that
didn't last too long. No, I was so excited for
it, unfortunately. We'll talk about that a little
bit later. Let's see here. Who else in this cast?
Like I mentioned earlier, Allyson Janney, she's
in the West Wing David Leisure, Greg Jackson,
Kyle Cease, Kay Hanley Monique Powell and Brian
Mashburn, members of, okay, yeah Kay Hanley and
Michael Einstein, members of Letters to Cleo
I do like that they got the actual bands like
from the soundtrack and stuff to be in the film
I think that's pretty cool So that's interesting
there Getting into some production notes. The
opening scene was filmed at Carey Park on Queen
Anne Hill just northwest of downtown Seattle.
Exterior shots of the Prince of Photography were
filmed in Tacoma and Seattle, Washington. The
high school's exterior was shot at Tacoma's Stadium
High School. Bianca and Kat's home in the film
is in North Tacoma. So that's pretty interesting.
What kind of trivia bits do you have? I have
some cool stuff. First of all, Larissa, who plays
Bianca, and Joseph Cameron, who plays Cameron
Jones, they also date each other in Third Rock
from the Sun as their characters Tommy and Alyssa.
Just pretty interesting. Julia Stiles actually
originally auditioned for the role of Bianca.
which I find very interesting because I can't
see her as being a little prissy little stuck
-up girl. I just can't see that. I'm glad they
gave her Kat. Heath Ledger actually beat out
Josh Harnett and Ashton Kutcher for the role
of Patrick. I cannot see Ashton Kutcher doing
this role either. Yeah, JT mentioned that in
his Justifacts and I just... I'm just like, wow.
Yeah, there's like... There wouldn't be any,
like, the whole point of Patrick's character
is that he is the brooding, not necessarily a
bad boy, but the brooding outsider, the brooding
loner, and Ashton Kutcher is far from that. Josh
Hartnett just, in my opinion, can't act for crap,
so there's no way. I'm glad they gave it to you,
Ledger. Oh, yeah, me too. I mean, honestly, like,
he fits it. The next... bit of trivia, which
I mentioned earlier, the scene in which Kat reads
her famous Ten Things poem. It was actually the
first and only take according to the DVD extras.
Her tears toward the end of the poem, they were
not planned. So she got it in one take, which
is very, very unusual for scenes like that, because
usually it takes a few takes to get to get that
scene right. But she's a pretty good actor to
have done that. The school used in the film is
Stadium High School Tacoma, Washington. The school
was first built as a grand chateau -style railroad
station hotel, but after it suffered fire damage
it was renovated into a high school. The marching
band in the sequence where Heath Ledger sings
to Julia Stiles was not from Stadium High School
where the film was shot. The stadium was approached
by the makers of the movie to do the scene, but
did not have a marching band. The makers of the
movie then contacted Lincoln High School, a nearby
Tacoma school, who furnished the marching band
depicted in the scene. Several members of the
stadium band assisted, but had to be taught how
to march. The original script apparently was
much darker than the one in the final film. In
the original, Mandela, who is Kat's best friend,
she referred openly and frequently to several
suicide attempts, which were so that she could
join William Shakespeare. That I think they kind
of hinted at in the film a little bit But I'm
they hinted at that but the fact that that was
actually in the script the original script I
mean, I can understand why they took it out.
I mean promoting it'd be like almost promoting
suicide you think about it Cat Stratford Stratford
is excited. She got into Sarah Lawrence College
in Reality Larissa who played Bianca Stratford
actually did go to Sarah Lawrence College Which
is kind of funny and finally Cameron's name Cameron
James is a plan on the fame of name of a famous
director James Cameron That's all trivia for
me All right, so obviously it's on DVD you can
get it on iTunes and all that good stuff We're
gonna rank the film how we rank stuff here at
M wire is we're the IGN replacement crew One
is don't watch this even if it's free. Two is
worth a watch if it's free on TV. Three is worth
adding to the Netflix list. I don't think it's
on Netflix. It used to be. I don't think it is
now. At least here in the States. I don't know
about up there in Canada. And four is this one's
an add to your DVD collection. So what do you
rank it? One to four. It's four. Yeah, same here.
It's a four. I know because today we don't we
have more than just DVD. We have blu -ray. We
have the Apple Store We have everything like
that. So definitely it is a must to have in your
collection Yeah Most definitely All right. We're
gonna talk about the soundtrack a bit. Did you
ever get the soundtrack to this to be honest?
No, I didn't get the soundtrack to it. I Did
I loved I love this soundtrack. I don't love
every single song but Even though I'm not a big
fan of letters to Cleo Because this like if a
song is in a movie and it catches my ear I I
will want to have that soundtrack. I like that
song. I like the semi sonic song FNT I think
it's fine. New thing is what the FNT stands for
And semi sonic they were a really good 90s band
Your winter by sister hazel absolutely love that
song Even Angels Fall by Jessica Riddle. Love
that. New World by Leroy Miller. That was awesome.
Atomic Dog. Everybody knows Atomic Dog, if not
from this movie, from something else by George
Clinton. Everybody knows that. That'll be at
the end of the episode. And yeah, I mean, the
soundtrack was really, really good. It really
fit that time. A lot of the stuff in 1999, the
music industry and the movie industry kind of
really molded what came out in that year, at
least for films like this, to what that time
frame was. What I find interesting, though, that
wasn't included on the soundtrack was Barenake
and Ladies. because they're the opening song
for the beginning of the film. Yeah, that's true,
but it was probably a rights issue. It probably
was, but that's more so an interesting little
bit of side note to add for a Canadian listeners.
Yeah, and then apparently there was a scholastic
novel that was published. I need to find that.
Seriously, find it and post it on the site. oh
jeez story they published a novel of the story
in June 1999 it was written by David Leviathan
story is retold as it is in the film with each
chapter written from the point of view of either
Bianca Cameron cat Patrick or Michael so I might
actually have to track that book down and because
I think that that'll that must be an interesting
read because I've never seen a movie novelization
done that way. Each chapter is from the point
of view of a different character. I might have
to look that up on Amazon. I've seen some really
bad movies that they've made into books. It was
a movie and they turned it into the book version
of the movie. And I've seen some really bad ones.
So this sounds interesting. But it says here
that the story is retold as it is in the film.
The only difference is each chapter is written
from the point of view of a different character
So they basically like some movie novelizations
will like take It's like Game of Thrones like
each chapter is a different character Right,
but what I'm saying like like what you were just
saying about sometimes They make a movie and
then write a novel and and and do something different
in the novel versus what was what happened in
the movie I don't think that this I don't think
that this book would be that because it says
that it's written exactly as what the movie had
it as and then On October 8th 2008 ABC Family
ordered a pilot episode of a new half -hour single
-camera comedy series based on the ten things
I hate about you movie Larry Miller is the only
actor from the film to reprise his role in the
television series Well, I like Larry Miller.
I'm sorry. That was the first thing He was the
only person to return and okay What does that
say about the TV show already? Well, yeah, but
see that's the thing. It's like well, I don't
know I don't even think it's still in production
at all. I think it's dead. I think it got canceled
I think it's still on ABC spark, but that's about
it yeah it original run July 7th 2009 to May
24th 2010 so it's not in production anymore no
they're just showing reruns of it well yeah of
course they probably you know they shot 20 episodes
and of course they're gonna do reruns that's
pretty sad though yeah pretty sad um i just like
okay by by 2008 2009 i get it's well 2000 because
2009 was when it actually first aired i get it's
10 years after the fact and i get that all of
the original actors like david crum holds like
joseph gordon levitt like julia styles like heath
ledger had moved on and obviously by 2009 standards
heath had already passed away but um i get that
the other actors still living had moved on but
come on if you're gonna do a tv series at least
try to get the original actors don't like i i
don't even think i could they could have been
at like as something you know they could have
had them just even make cameos in the series
even that would have worked but the people they
picked to be the stratford sisters oh my god
i'm like are you kidding me I'm like, this is
like the remake version of the 1999 movie. You're
trying to bring back something from the 90s for
a new generation of viewers, but it did not work
because they probably had no idea what the hell
was going on, in my opinion. I mean, if they'd
never seen the movie, probably in 2009, the only
people who really know about this movie would
be people like my age and your age obviously
yeah so anybody who was born you know later than
i would say 19 obviously born later than 1999
would have no idea what the heck was going on
yeah yeah it's just so weird so all right we're
gonna take a quick ad break and we'll come back
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I Hate About You? Great film. Nostalgia just
all the way. Definitely go and watch it and rewatch
it as many times as you can because it's that
good. And if you have never heard of this movie,
don't go and look up the TV show, whatever you
do, because it's not worth it. Go and watch the
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go find it on eBay or Amazon and just go and
watch it. You won't be disappointed. And rest
in peace Heath Ledger, because this movie and
Dark Knight are definitely going to be your two
legacies that you've left to the film industry.
So thank you so much for that. But yeah, just
seriously, 10 things I hate about you, best fricking
teen movie ever. Yeah the one thing I will criticize
about the film something I didn't bring up earlier
is I was Because I didn't know originally that
there were outtakes at the very end during the
end credits and It was obviously it was way before
the time of oh wait until the movie's done But
there were outtakes during the thing and I didn't
know that but When I was watching it back again
because I knew there were outtakes the one scene
that I have to really question Is how the hell
did they get letters to Cleo on the top of that
friggin school roof? Because there's no roof.
It's just the top of the school the top of the
structure It's just as a stage So they would
have they would have had to have just lowered
them in by helicopter or something because there's
no it's not a flat roof It's a it's kind of like
a castle roof that that builds up and builds
up and builds up and then flattens out so there
is no door to go into the Bottom part of the
school whatsoever. So that's I mean, that's just
a little nitpick of mine that I wanted to bring
up I was like, how the hell did the band get
up there? Yeah, that did bug me too. But I guess
I was so enthralled. I was so like Engaged and
loving the movie. I didn't really think about
that Right. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So we hope
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I assume everyone has found time to complete
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up to read Dazzle out? I will. Lord, here we
go. I hate the way you talk to me and the way
you cut your hair. Hate the way you drive my
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dumb combat boots and the way you read my mind.
I hate you so much. It makes me sick. It even
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always right. I hate it when you lie I Hate it
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fact that you didn't call But mostly I hate the
way I don't hate you. Not even close. Not even
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