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The Untouchables Review

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I grew up in a tough neighborhood Sometimes reputation
follows you Robert De Niro is Al Capone there
is violence in Chicago of course But not by me
and not by anybody I employ and I'll tell you
why because it's not good business Kevin Costner
is Elliot Ness. I have sworn to put this man
away with any and all legal means at my disposal
and I will do so. Sean Connery is Jimmy Malone.
You wanna get Capone? Here's how you get him.
He pulls a knife, you pull a gun, he sends one
of yours to the hospital, you send one of his
to the morgue at you, the Chicago way. You just
joined the Treasury Department, son. Everybody
knows where the booze is. The problem isn't finding
it. Let's do some good! The problem is who wants
to cross the pond. Somebody messes with me, I'm
gonna mess with him. You carry a badge? Yes.
Carry a gun. Get your hands in the air! You're
all under arrest. You fellas are untouchable.
Is that the thing no one can get to you? Hey,
everybody can be gotten to. All right, then.
Drive him to the station. Anything happens, you
shoot first. You understand me? I tell you one
more thing. You got an all -out price fight,
you wait till the fight's over, one guy's left
standing, and that's how you know who won. Just
tell me, are you being careful? Careful is nice.
I want to hurt the man, Malone. I want to start
taking the battle to him. I want to hurt Capone.
This man can finger Al Capone. This man can put
Capone behind him. Yeah? Well, you're not from
Chicago. I want you to find this dancing boy,
Elliot Ness. I want him dead. I want his family
dead. Paramount Pictures presents a Brian De
Palma film. I have forsworn myself, I have broken
every law I swore to defend, I have become what
I beheld, and I am content that I have done right!
You got not day! Not day! And if you were a man,
you would have done it now! Never stop fighting
till the fight is done! The Untouchables. Hello
and welcome to MWIRE Movie Weekend Review, brought
to you by the GeekCaster, Radio Network, and
Audible .com. I am one of your hosts, Steve,
Joe, and Mike, and joining me is Steve Megatron.
Hello! Hello. Yes. And now that these superhero
specials are over for the summer... Supposedly.
No, they are. We are wrapping up, finally, after
so long, the 80s movies. 87, 88, and 89 will
end the 80s films for MWIRE. And this time around...
We travel back to 1987 when we talk about that
classic Prohibition -era film, The Untouchables.
So what's been going on with you? Oh, not much.
That's good, that's good. Same here, podcasting
as always. We celebrated our three -year anniversary
back in June, so yay for us being online for
three years. Somehow. Somehow, yes. Not, you
know, ripping each other's throats out. So without
any further ado, we're going to head to JT and
Just the Facts for the Untouchables. Hey guys,
JT from Saskatoon once again with today's Just
the Facts. Today's film is something straight
out of the history books. It's a tale of cops
and robbers set against the backdrop of the Prohibition
era. Remember, if they send one of yours to the
hospital, you send one of theirs to the morgue.
This is the Untouchables. During the Prohibition
era, mob boss Al Capone had a stranglehold on
the City of Chicago. His reach felt in all areas
of it. Flaunting the law prohibiting alcohol,
Capone supplied low quality liquor in illegal
bars and speakeasies all over the city. The government,
wanting to send a message, sends in their best
man, Agent Elliot Ness, to put a stop to it.
Ness immediately sets about raiding various Capone
storehouses, but his efforts fail largely due
to corrupt cops tipping off Capone. Ness also
meets beat cop Jimmy Malone, who impresses upon
the young Ness that in order to get Capone, he'll
have to employ men who have never come under
his influence. Along with Jimmy, Ness recruits
police trainee George Stone and accountant Oscar
Wallace. With his team now in place, Ness' first
act is to raid a post office where illegal liquor
is stored, but it's only the beginning. The four
gain notoriety as they raid more and more of
Capone's holdings, eventually being dubbed the
Untouchables by the press. At first, unable to
find a legal reason to try Capone in court, hope
comes when Wallace discovers that Capone has
not filed any taxes in four years. While pursuing
this lead, Ness is visited by an alderman who
tries to bribe him, but Ness proves to be as
incorruptible as any of his men and refuses to
cooperate. Capone then retaliates by sending
his chief assassin Frank Nitti to threaten Ness's
family, prompting Ness to send them to a safe
house. The team then heads for the Canadian border,
where they're about to raid an incoming supply
of illegal hooch. During the raid, Ness chases
one of the gangsters into an empty house and
kills him in self -defense. Malone then captures
George, one of Capone's bookkeepers, and brings
him into the house for interrogation. George
proves to be uncooperative, so Malone deals with
the situation by grabbing the dead man and shooting
him, threatening George that he'll meet a similar
fate if he doesn't spill the beans. Once they're
back in Chicago, Ness prepares to debrief George,
but word has gotten to Capone and he sends Nitti
to kill the accountant. Nitti kills George and
also kills Wallace as well while he's at the
police station. Ness angrily confronts Capone,
but Malone saves him before anything can happen.
Angered nearly beyond reason, Ness discovers
that the police chief Mike Dorsett sold out Wallace
and George to Capone. Malone learns of Walter
Payne, another Capone accountant they can use
to make their case. When he goes to tell Ness,
Malone is gunned down by Niddy. Malone hangs
on just long enough to tell Ness about Payne's
whereabouts before he succumbs to his injuries.
Ness and Stone rush to Union Station and find
Payne about to leave on a train guarded by several
thugs. After a fierce shootout, the two remaining
Untouchables succeed in taking Payne into custody.
Payne testifies in court about Capone's organization,
but Capone seems oddly at ease despite facing
a lengthy prison term. Ness sees Nitti carrying
a gun and escorts him out of the courtroom only
to discover that he has a permit from the mayor
to carry the weapon. Nitti almost walks before
Ness discovers a matchbook with Malone's address
on it, identifying him as Malone's killer. Niddy
shoots the bailiff and runs, followed by Nest,
who corners Niddy on the roof of the courthouse.
After Niddy mocks Malone and hints at how he'll
never see the inside of the prison, Nest screws
him right by dropping his ass off the roof. Back
inside, Stone discovers a letter that fell from
Niddy's jacket that says the jury has been bribed.
The presiding judge refuses to enter it into
evidence until Nest bluffs that the judge's name
is on a list of people Capone has bribed. The
judge caves and switches juries with a neighboring
courtroom, and before the trial can be restarted,
Capone's lawyer withdraws the plea of not guilty
and enters guilty without Capone's consent. Capone
is then found guilty and he is sentenced to 11
years in prison. With this great undertaking
done, Ness goes to pack up his office, and while
leaving the police station he turns down an offer
to speak to a reporter about the case. When the
reporter asks what he's going to do now that
Prohibition is due to be repealed, Ness responds
by saying, I think I'll have a drink. Opening
on June 3rd, 1987, The Intouchables was helmed
by Scarface director Brian De Palma and written
by David Mamet, whose trademark styles of graphic
filmmaking and street -smart dialogue meshed
very well together. There was also star power
in front of the camera as well. with Kevin Costner
starring as Elliot Ness, Robert De Niro as mob
boss Al Capone, and 007 himself Sean Connery
as Jimmy Malone. The film was a critical and
financial success raking in nearly $77 million
by the end of its run. The film was a huge hit
among both men and women due to its blend of
graphic violence and the relationships between
characters. Most critics loved the film and some
did not as well. Roger Ebert said the production
of the film was top -notch, but it does not have
a great script, great performances, or great
direction. I'd have to disagree. However, Richard
Schickel of Time magazine wrote, Mammoth's elegantly
efficient script does not waste a word, and De
Palma does not waste a shot. The result is a
densely layered work moving with confident, compulsive
energy. I would agree with that. The movie was
nominated for several awards at that year's Oscars,
but only one best supporting role for Sean Connery
as Jimmy Malone. And in the years since, the
film has been nominated several times on various
lists of notable films from the American Film
Institute, such as the 100 Best Movies and the
100 Best Heroes and Villains. The Untouchables
is a rare movie in that its director and writer
were able to work together to produce such an
intricate tale that does not fall apart. It's
a film that still holds up to this day. It's
based on history, but it's never boring. It's
full of graphic acts of violence, but never so
much so that we are turned away by it. It works
on almost every conceivable level a great movie
should. So remember, if he pulls a knife, you
pull a gun. And if someone tells you they've
never seen this movie, you pull out your copy
of the Intouchables and educate them. This has
been Just the Facts for the Intouchables. I'm
JT from Saskatoon. Back to you guys. We are back.
Thank you for sitting the stage with that Just
the Facts, JT from Saskatoon. I think I mentioned
this over on the GeekCast radio feed when we
did GCR in retro episode 1, 1987, that I saw
this. in school, in history class. I probably
should clarify I was in high school by this time
when I saw it. When I saw it, because my high
school history teacher was, we were learning
about the Prohibition Era, and he did show it
to us in high school. I think in the G -Seren
Retro episode I made it sound like we saw it
in elementary school, no. It was in high school.
But I remember seeing it before then though I
honestly do because my Junior senior high school
is 98 99 So I remember seeing it maybe two or
three years after it got released as a girl.
Yeah, I Dude mom, let me watch anything It's
one of the reasons why I don't watch horror movies
is because she actually made me watch Nightmare
on Elm Street as a kid Anyway When did you when
do you remember first seeing this one? Probably
mid 90s. Hmm Because obviously I wasn't old enough
to watch it in the 80s. Yeah, so Yeah, that's
probably about the point that I saw it was probably
mid 90s and I think I saw it with my mom because
I used to watch a lot of old Or at least old
era type shows. Mm -hmm so Yeah, I think that's
pretty much where I would have seen it. Yeah
I just I love this the whole feel of the late,
you know 80s in general but the whole feel of
the late 80s action movie the whole feel of What
it was in the late 80s and early 90s to what
they are nowadays that they were so much better
back then because they didn't just have You know
walk five feet step on a mine boom new explodes,
you know every you know, they didn't just have
an explosion every five seconds like action movies
of today do You know, they told a story beginning,
middle, and end. They told a story of, you know,
moments when, you know, you feel for the characters.
Nowadays in action movies, there's really no
feeling for any characters. There's a little
bit before they kill them. Yes. Okay, well, I'm
not counting the superhero movies. I guess, yes,
that does count as an action film, but... like
you know stuff like The Bay Formers and well
even then you can still argue that There's still
important characters in there Unless they're
50 -foot robots. No, there's not according to
you But no this one was just an amazing look
at what Prohibition in the 20s was and it was
an educational film even though it was already
our film. It was an educated educational film
because obviously You know no one in the 80s
was alive back then and that's that's you know
Preserving a piece of our history and I really
really enjoyed this one. Do you have any? any
other general thoughts um I I Overall liked it
One, I was always intrigued by Sean Connery back
in the day. Despite the fact, I did not know
he was James Bond at that time. I mean, that
was obviously way back when. But I liked how
his character was in this. Just kind of a hard
ass. I just like that era overall. It kind of
ties in with a lot of in a lot of 80s movies
kind of hit on it whether they were comedy or
Serious like this. Mm -hmm. Oh Yeah, I mean it's
just one of those things where you know you have
a role That goes to a certain actor The actor
just embodies what that character is and that's
that's just that was just one of the greatest
things back then As far as the who's who of the
film you have Kevin Costner as Elliot Ness and
Sean Connery as Jim Malone Charles Martin Smith
as Oscar Wallace Andy Garcia's in this oh my
god George Stone uh Giuseppe Petri, of course
Mr Robert De Niro as Al Capone, Patricia Clarkson,
Billy Drago, Richard Bradford, Jack Keough, Brad
Sullivan and Clifton James also star but like
this is what makes an action film you have Costner
on one end as as Ness and you have De Niro on
the other as Capone and you have uh essentially
Connery in the middle as as Malone I mean the
you know and just three of the greatest actors
of all time you know just three of many of the
greatest actors of all time but this is an iconic
film because of the portrayals that these actors
put into their roles and there was just amazing
amazing casting I agree I was I'm not a huge
Kevin Costner fan, but I really love his portrayal
in this film. I think that he did really well
with this. Well, this is also before he jumped
the shark with a couple of crappy movies, late
90s, 2000s. And you get to see some of the awesome
Sean Connery and then of course Robert De Niro.
There's a lot of memorable faces in this film.
Yes, there is. Oh my god. Oh my god. No, I'm
just reading through some of the production notes
in this. You know how we'll often find the wiki
articles or we'll talk about the movies that'll
have the, well, Elliot Ness was originally...
you know this actor was originally asked to be
or you know like who who else would have been
the role other than Costner this is so funny
Although De Niro was De Palma's first choice
to play Capone, the director met with Bob Hoskins
to discuss the role. When De Niro took the part,
De Palma mailed Hoskins a cheque for 20 ,000
pounds with a thank you note, which prompted
Hoskins to call up De Palma and ask him if there
were any more movies he didn't want him to be
in. Nice. Wow. That's crazy. Isn't that Commissioner
Gordon? Bob Hoskins? Yeah. No, you're thinking
of Bob Hastings. Bob Hoskins. Mario. Mario Bros.
Smee from Hook. Yes. And he was in Roger Rabbit.
You're thinking of Bob Hastings. I knew he was
in a cartoon. Roger Rabbit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Eddie Valiant. Yes. Okay. That's where I got
mixed up. I knew the guy was associated with
animation in some way. This film just shows us
what a different age it was back then. Oh yeah.
And it's an eye -opener how far that we've come.
The action scenes in this are just absolutely
brilliant. You know some of the most memorable
action scenes some of the most memorable music
cues and quotes and everything else I I just
absolutely love this film And it's very true
to some extent to the to the time I mean it it's
pretty much based on a Real guy, so it's based.
Well. Yeah, it's also it's based off a real guy
But it's also the film was based off the off
the book Which I believe came out in the 60s
or 50s, I'm not looking at it right off the top
of my head. I think the book was 1957. Yeah.
And that's crazy that this had so many video
game releases for it. Oh, I know it. That's nuts.
For all the old -ass systems, you have Spectrum,
Amstrad, Commodore 64, which I have heard of,
MSX, Amiga, which I've heard of, MS -DOS, which
is pre -Windows, and NES and SNES. Which, that's
just nuts that that many different incarnations
came out. I find really funny about this is that
this one as far as like some awards and stuff
it got nominated for academies for best costume
design best score best art direction and set
direction it won best actor and supporting role
Sean Connery won an Academy Award for this movie
which is amazing And then AFIs, 100 years, 100
movies, it was nominated. 100 years, 100 thrills,
it was nominated. 100 years, 100 heroes and villains,
both Capone and Ness were nominated for each
category. AFIs top 10, 10 top 10 nominated for
gangster film. You know, so this movie is one
of those ones that everyone needs to watch, I
think. It's just a true classic. Yeah, I can
definitely agree with that. In addition to that,
would you think that this film, being that every
film nowadays, has either a sequel or a remake?
No. You don't even need to finish the sentence.
No. If this got remade today, I don't think that
they could tell the story As I don't I honestly
don't think right now in in this new age of upcoming
actors and actresses. I don't think there's anybody
Of the last 10 or 12 years that could portray
these roles as well as The actors in the original
film portrayed them. I have to agree with you
wholeheartedly Bring that up just to I mean,
there's no way to make a sequel to this because
Capone did end up going to jail I mean, you know.
Unless you had where he comes out. Well, no.
All right. I got I got I got to bring this up
because they've done it in pop culture. There
have been television shows and other movies that
have, you know, had these old gangster types
come back. Oh, God, what was that film a couple
of years ago? Wasn't too long ago. It was, oh,
God, Dylan, the Dillinger film. What was it?
Crap you act like I know You're supposed to know
these things. I know movies, but I don't know
crap But okay the the one example I can I can
give you is there was an episode of and I know
people are gonna hate this but There was an episode
of Lois and Clark where all these gangsters came
back in time or, you know, somehow were brought
back or cloned or something and it had that real
1920s feel to the episode. So there have been
things that have been done with the Capone story
but in really really weird ways. As far as a
sequel, no, I don't think that a sequel could
be done today. If they were to remake it and
retell the story... In today's Hollywood, it
would probably have some weird ass -end alien
workaround or Martian workaround or Hey, let's
go out and you know, let's send Al Capone to
a you know cryogenic chamber on Mars or it would
have some weird Connotation to it and I think
it would Just fail Mean it wouldn't it wouldn't
take away from what the original film was but
at the same time It's not gonna add anything
to today's generation No, but I could see them
totally screwing it up like Abraham Lincoln vampire
Don't get me started don't even don't I wasn't
trying to get you started I was saying that's
complete crap as well, but don't you don't you
don't fuck with history That's right I'm so right.
It will run you over and kill you. Yes. Besides,
if Lincoln was such a, and I know this is off
topic, but I just want to say this. Let's put
a pin in that for a second because I actually
want to do a special thing afterwards for it.
Okay. Because you're going to get me going and
it has nothing to do with how awesome the Untouchables
is. Exactly. everyone that's at least 21 years
old or hell even 18 years old needs to see this
film at least once if you're if you're a person
who likes action movies if you're a person if
you're a person in general not everyone likes
action movies that's why I was saying if you're
a person who likes action movies this is one
of the ones that is an absolute must see. And
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I suppose I still can't say something about Transformers,
can I? Good grief. What about sports? Yeah, that's
alright. Already then, yes. Welcome back to M
-Wire. Yes, as for my one -liner that I'd like
to say about the Abraham Lincoln piece, if Abraham
Lincoln is such a good vampire hunter, why did
he get shot in the back of the head? He's supposed
to hear things coming behind him, so with that...
Oh God. I'm just saying. No disrespect to the
guy, but it's just saying. Alright, so The Untouchables
is on DVD and it's also on iTunes. It's on digital
download, all that stuff. As far as us being
the IGN crew and ranking the film 0 -4, 0 being
don't watch this, you know, unless, you know,
you're having someone gnaw your arm off, and
1 being it's worth a watch if you can find it
for free. Two, if it's on TV, three, Netflix,
which I don't even think it's on Netflix, and
four, DVD. I'd give it a four, because it is,
even though it's a movie, it's based off of true
events, and it's worth kind of having. So, what
about you? Is zero to four? I'd give it a four.
Yes. It was a really good film. I think that
it... Definitely deserves a watch It does look
a little dated but hey, it's supposed to be a
30s timepiece Yeah, well, yeah 1920s 1930s. Yeah,
and by now it's it's very dated for the 87 film
style, but it's still a man I mean, it's not
dated in a bad way at all. It's But it is dated
So, yes, I don't know where I was going with
that fuck I don't either It's too fucking hot.
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