Star Wars Prequel Trilogy Review

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and joining me is Steve Megatron, hello. Hello.

Kevin Thompson, hello. Good day to you. And Mike

Birdman Dodd, hello. I haven't slept in 36 hours.

Like I keep telling you, I've told you since

I freakin' started talking to you, fucking delegate.

Nobody can play Call of Duty Black Ops but me,

nobody! Okay, well I was talking about your other

responsibilities. Call of Duty? That is the only

responsibility at this point. Buy this goddamn

game, I'm off in a week, it's okay. Uh, yeah,

so part two of the Star Wars saga here on MWIRE

is going to be dealing with the prequels. Yeah!

Sorry, I really like these movies, actually.

I was gonna say, I'm very interested to hear

everybody's opinions on every one of these movies.

I am too, actually. Um, so, uh, did - has everyone

seen these in theaters, I would assume? Oh yeah,

I was there actually every - I actually skipped

a day of grade 12 to see episode 1, and my teacher

said, you know what Mike, it's okay, only if

you save me a spot. Everybody I know skipped

whatever they had to make sure they saw it opening

day. My stepdad pre -ordered tickets for all

of us. I was in line at 5 a .m. I don't remember

if it was episode one or episode two but one

of them we were outside wrapped around the theater

waiting for it to open everybody not everybody

but most people were in some type of costume

and it was pouring down rain yep yeah I think

it was episode one and that was quite the scene

it was either episode one or episode two although

if it was episode two then you must have been

on Kamino no When I saw episode one, we totally

went uber nerd. We were in costume. We were playing

the Star Wars role -playing game, which at that

time was done by West End Games. We ordered pizza

delivered to us in line. We had frigging our

Game Boys playing Star Wars. We had lightsaber

battles. We had like a Nerf gun fight. It was

the most epic afternoon, not to be talked by

episode three, but I'll talk about that later.

That was pretty frigging epic. We had members

of the 501st up in Owen Sound. It was ridiculous.

Yeah, I remember seeing this in theaters as well.

I think I actually I don't think I went opening

day, but I went like like the Saturday after

it opened. Maybe this was this was when I got

all my cool stuff from Target, too, because as

the movies were coming out, obviously we were

getting all kinds of different toy displays.

And this is when I yanked a bunch of different

cardboard cutouts and graphics and stuff like

that. Right now now did anybody opening day by

the commemorative booklet that was available?

During the during that particular weekend no

we didn't have to buy them at our place I don't

think oh you fucking suck cuz ours was like yeah,

it's $15 like are you out of your fucking mind?

No, they handed them out to us, and are you talking

about the ones for episode one? Yeah, yeah, I

mean yeah, they wanted them out You suck. The

only thing we ever got for free was when we saw

the return of the Jedi Special Edition, they

gave us a Power of the Force 2 Luke in the Jedi

thing, which I very foolishly opened, which then

I found out how much it was worth, and I'm still

kicking myself in the ass today. Everybody's

having ass problems today. I know, clearly. Oh,

Arby's. Shut up. So yeah, so I guess we do we

want to do any more general talk on the prequels

before we actually get into the film discussion?

No, that's good small. It's fucking harsh Yeah,

yeah, he was fucking harsh in this and then he

went to play fucking toad Yep, let's not go in

there and heroes to come on. I mean we all know

what else fuck heroes I hate that show. That's

because you have no taste, Mike. Well, neither

do you, Mike. So anyways, we're going to go to

the trailer for the Phantom Menace. You refer

to the prophecy of the one who will bring balance

to the Force. You believe it's this boy? He can

see things before they happen. He can help you.

The Force is unusually strong with him. He was

meant to help you. Anakin! Tell him to take off!

Will I ever see you again? What does he want

to tell you? Are you sure about this? Trusting

our fate to a boy we hardly know? Anakin Skywalker,

meet Obi -Wan Kenobi. I sense much fear in you.

The boy is dangerous. They all sense it. Why

can't you? Fear is the path to the dark side.

Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate

leads to suffering. First up in the prequel trilogy

is episode one the phantom menace Clearly the

I think this is the movie that I've had the most

excitement for in my entire life I was more pumped

up for this movie than any movie ever There's

something really wrong with you. No, no, I'm

serious because I was the biggest Star Wars fan

I had never had a Star Wars release during my

lifetime that was brand new and For this to be

coming and knowing that there was gonna be two

more after it I was so excited that it was you

know, I can't even describe it. Yes I was excited

for the second and third one too, but this was

what you know kind of started at all This is

what got me back into Star Wars like hardcore

like this is when I was still reading the Expanded

Universe novels when I was still kind of collecting

the toys But I don't know this is I was excited

for this I was more excited for episode 3 though,

but this movie I was glad I think I saw it in

theater three times I think and I find this movie

a lot of people give it Flacker being the worst

of the prequels, but I would argue it gets better

with age and there are different fan cuts of

this movie like if you just type in phantom fan

or Phantom Menace fan cut you'll find trailers

or they completely change Like dialogue they

completely change what Jar Jar says so now what

he says is subtitled It makes it about ten times

better because now Jar Jar isn't a huge racial

stereotype. Well, he is but I digress I don't

know. It's just I like this movie more now than

when I was a kid Yeah, I'm not really talking

about whether I like it or not like it or whatever

I'm just saying that the initial hype and excitement

for Star Wars coming back to the theater was

has been unrivaled for me I thought Darth Maul

was also the greatest marketing tool they've

ever had. Yeah, that was pretty cool. What about

you, Steve? I would say that I definitely liked

it. I don't know, I just... Well, don't sound

so enthused, Steve. Well, not so much. But going

into it, Steve, before you had ever seen it,

were you excited to go to the theater and watch

it the first time, or had you already heard enough

about it that you kind of knew what to expect?

for episode one. I'd already seen the other three,

the original trilogy. Probably, I don't know,

50 times. My brother would watch only that. I

was excited about it, except for the fact that

when I was in the theater, I had some more in

front of me trying to hum the theme song and

they were all drunk. Like their whole party so

I Had hot bitches on my left and my teacher to

my right. I was okay That's a weird combination.

They're right. Like hey, mr. Bade check out this

hot piece of ass I was single at this point.

So it was okay one thing we need to comment on

really is that this is Lucas's first Entry as

a film director in 22 years Yeah, like like when

this got released it had been 22 years since

since the original trilogy. Oh Can you direct

some episodes of young Indiana Jones though?

Well, it says it says here Lucas's first product

is a film director after 22 years. So young Indiana

Jones I think that was a TV series wasn't it?

Yeah. Yeah, so And I'm thankful that he hasn't

directed a whole lot Really, what else can you

do than torture his own franchise? Well, if you

think about it, the only things he's done is

Star Wars and Indiana Jones. And American Graffiti

and THX. Yeah, but pretty much that's about the

only two that he's got going for him that he

keeps going back to. That's true. You don't see

too many prequels and sequels to American Graffiti.

Well, that's kind of a standalone piece. Yeah.

If he can find a way to sequelize it, don't worry.

Well, they did that with Tron, but the Tron,

anyway, that's a whole other topic. No, he's

great with the ideas, he's great with the coming

up with stuff and the writing and stuff like

that. I just, for some reason, don't think he's

that great of a director. So, Kevin, why don't

you summarize episode one for us? No, you don't

want me to summarize episode one. Yeah, we do.

You don't want me to either trust me. I think

you should Mike No, no Oh God have mercy on our

souls Basically there's a to get into it there's

a Dispute between the Trade Federation and the

planet of Naboo I'm gonna skip a whole lot of

shit during this so just bear with me uh... those

version kevin colesna but the and and basically

that the jet air brought into it to don't check

what's going on that you know they have uh...

the traces uh... good lord i hate this movie

i'm sorry it's somebody else and have to do is

come to some of the circus in the entire time

also sounds like a lay on the scooby -doo episode

but anyways Bad shit happens! They send in the

Jedi to negotiate! More bad shit happens! We

meet Jar Jar, the worst film character ever.

I would argue that. There are far more annoying

characters. He's just the most visible. Freddy

from Scooby -Doo, I'm looking at you. I don't

know, the basic gist of this movie is Naboo has

been invaded, the Trade Federation claims they

have legal right to do so, and this movie more

or less boils down to politics. I mean, you see

the rise of Senator Palpatine to get Chancellor

Valorum out, and Chancellor Valorum, aka Terrence

Stamps of fucking Zod, controls the universe.

The only reason why I did not know that before

about two weeks ago was because... Uh, Valorum

is in like, maybe less than five minutes of this

film. And I just didn't pay attention to his

character at all. And then Palpatine house him.

Yeah, he's like, yeah, this guy's a pussy, I'm

better, I have... I'm cooler than this guy elect

me, so U .S. politics in space. Or Canadian politics

in space. Oh, we're way more boring than this,

Mike. Just saying. Giving him too much credit.

Yeah, exactly. Kevin, pick up the ball, buddy,

and let's just run with this so we can get through

it. Basically, you don't need to know the details,

but the two Jedi here, Qui -Gon and Obi -Wan,

they end up at Tatooine. They meet Anakin. Bring

him back, take him away from his mother and his

home planet to try to train him to be a Jedi

or to get him at least approved by the Jedi Council

so that they can train him. Fast forward, we

all end up back on Naboo with Qui -Gon and Obi

-Wan and the Queen and all her people and Jar

Jar and... uh... boss mass against the uh...

called the uh... battle droids darth maul and

and all those guys we have basically three different

things happening at once we have anakin on flying

up to try to uh... destroy the arm control ship

the control ship out in space that's the one

story that's going on at the end then you have

the uh... the queen and arm or i mean the jet

and darth maul fighting in the in the uh... temple

area where we want to call it and then you have

the main outside battle between jar jar boss

mass the gun guns and the uh... the droids And

that's all going on at the same time. Eventually

Anakin, with his mastery of flying, destroys

the control center, which puts all the droids

to sleep. So the captured Gungans are free. And

then you have the epic battle between Obi -Wan

Qui -Gon and Darth Maul, which ends up with Darth

Maul split in half. It also ends up with Qui

-Gon dead as well. Well yeah, but that didn't

hurt me as much as Darth Maul being cut in half.

And then you have your of course your your ending

scene, which is obviously the celebration scene

with everybody happy that yeah they destroyed

the the threat for now so Mike initial thoughts

See it's weird this movie. It's all over the

it's all over the place in terms of pacing I

find this movie to almost be the most boring

of the prequel, I don't know, it seems to take

its friggin' time and places, it just unnecessarily

drags on. Plus, the thing that makes me mad the

most about this movie is it explains the force.

This should never have been explained. You're

telling me the force is controlled by little

microscopic organisms called midi -chlorians.

That is such bullshit. It takes away all the

mysticism. Yeah, it takes away all the mysticism,

it takes away all the symbolism, all the context

of the force by doing everything else. With a

bunch of people that are very knowledgeable about

the Star Wars, the original trilogy, to sit down

in the first movie and have them start throwing

around jargon that has never been used before,

like the midi -chlorians and stuff like that,

everyone's like, what the flying fuck are they

talking? I mean, you can follow them, but it's

like, what? This doesn't exist. Yeah, and, you

know, just the fact that the Empire rose from

such a group of frankly stupid people really

blows my mind. And the fact that nobody picked

up on the fact that Palpatine was kind of a douchebag

from the get -go. Right. I don't know. I mean,

like I said, there are too many questions in

this. It demystified the universe. I think it

gave us too much. in terms of explaining backstory.

I think that's where episode one failed a lot

of the fans. Now, not the same, there weren't

some really good performances in this, because

Liam Neeson as Obi -Wan's master was really cool.

I love Qui -Gon. I was so sad when they killed

him off so quickly. uh... a young obi -wan i

thought was fantastic yes i have two main problems

with this one number one is that it was too kid

-friendly too kid -friendly to me it was a toy

commercial yeah and number two was it out of

the six movies this one felt the least like a

star wars movie to me meaning it didn't have

that that i don't know it's hard to explain but

it just didn't have that atmosphere and like

i said i think it is Yeah, it didn't have that

epicness and I think you had to like Mike said

it had to do with the the timing and the the

the speed of different things at different times

and it just didn't flow together like it didn't

feel like that like Lucas always says that old

You know 1930s You know cereal cereal Saturday

cereal type thing. It didn't have that feel all

the other ones do this one did not Now the one

thing I want to bring up about this and yes,

we are talking about these films in both parts

of episode 75 here You know in you know theatrical

release order, you know I know that there's a

lot of controversy about Lucas going back and

saying oh Well, you have to watch them in episode

order now that they're all out and everything

else and honestly it does if you didn't see them

originally The prequel trilogy if you didn't

see them before like say the DVDs came out or

whatever If you watch them from episode 1 to

episode 6, it makes sense, but I will agree that

having released prequels and then going back

and explaining stuff, it's kind of freaky and

it's kind of weird and it probably shouldn't

have been done, but since apparently Lucas was

wanting to make it the six serial film Saturday

matinee thing where everything connected, Episode

1, as a stand -alone film, as an introduction

to Star Wars even though it wasn't our introduction

to it, I think it does an okay job. There are

certain things about this film that I absolutely

cannot stand and there are certain things that

make me fall out of my chair laughing. Jar Jar,

he's a comedy character. He's a poor comedy character.

And there shouldn't ever be a poor comedy character.

The only thing I really laughed at with the Gungans

was when Boss Nass told Jar Jar that he was going

to make him a general and Jar Jar just faints.

I thought that was kind of cool. I don't know.

This is probably my least favorite out of all

six films. Outside of the battle with Darth Maul,

that's really my only... If you take Darth Maul

out of this movie, good lord. Yeah. This movie

was a train wreck from the get -go. Well, number

one, to be fair, and I'm not saying that I necessarily

love this movie, but to be fair, like I said,

there was so much hype going into this that it

was almost going to be impossible for it to live

up to it. Especially going off of those ones

that had been decades earlier and now dealing

with something that's going to look... First

of all, it's going to look completely different,

which is a good thing. The effects are going

to be completely different. From a visual standpoint,

it's going to be way advanced. And at the same

time, you're going back in time. So there's kind

of a disconnect there already. But the hype going

into it, it was going to be hard for it to live

up to it. And I think the only good thing about

episode one, or one of the best things about

episode one is that they learned what to do and

what not to do for episode two and episode three.

I think one of the things they did with episode

one is because looking at the production design

of this movie, they kind of shot themselves in

the foot. Look at how new and shiny everything

is. And I know under the imperial regime, things

are going to change. Not that drastically in

20 years. Not across all sectors in space. But

they got rusty and old. Really fast, I guess.

I don't know. That's one thing that really bothered

me. It didn't seem consistent. I didn't like

that everything looked more technologically advanced

than it does in the future. It looked more like

Star Trek as opposed to Star Wars, and that's

a thing that has to be acknowledged, though,

because it doesn't fit in -universe. People are

going to say, well, that's because it was before

all these great big battles, and that's why everything's

more... You run down, but I agree with you. Yeah,

and one of the things is here's something I think

I'm right on this I'm not a hundred percent sure

on this one But the Falcon is a really old ship

this Falcon would have been built Around this

time because it had because it's had several

different owners. I think the Falcons at least

40 50 years old so it should look like the current

tech when you look at it in the future. Now unless

Han Solo ripped all the guts out of it, which

he likely did, it's not very consistent with

the design of the rest of the universe. And I

don't know, there's just, there's a lot of problems

there. Now one thing I do love about episode

one, is the music for this movie. Fantastic score.

Probably one of the best out of the series overall.

I mean, Duel of the Fates has been spoofed by

so many people to show this epic big battle scene.

And I remember when episode one came out, there

were so many parodies of this thing. And it reignited

the love for Star Wars in a way that had never

been seen since the original ones. But you're

right though, Kevin, 20 years of hype, 25 years

of hype is a lot to live up to. And it's kind

of like when the Simpsons movie came out. Everyone

was like, oh my god, it's going to be awesome.

We saw it and we're like, eh. It's impossible

to live up to that much expectation. I think

you bring up a good point, though. I think the

music is probably the most consistent thing throughout

the six films. Yeah, it is. As far as quality

and as far as, you know, just the way that it's

done. But yeah, this one, I do remember more

actual themes and more pieces of music from this

one than probably any of the other ones. The

Dual of Fates is ridiculous. There's also the

like I'm gonna pod racing scene plus when they

introduce Anakin Just listen to it. You can hear

slight undertones of the Imperial March, which

is really cool Plus this thing had a fantastic

ad campaign. This thing is fucking everywhere

make oh, yeah get you could get like fucking

phantom menace tampons for christ's sake i remember

getting all of the uh the pizza hut or taco bell

or whoever had it the uh the big cups the big

cups with the the figure on the top with the

straw coming out of them they had like you know

how you got um i think that was taco bell Taco

Bell, yeah the extra large plastic cup but instead

it was a Star Wars cup and then on the top it

had Subalba or Watto or Darth Maul or like a

complete sculpted head and everything and I had

all of them I was I was It had to go from like

Taco Bell to Taco Bell to try to find a way to

get all of them. I had all the Pepsi and Mountain

Dew cans. I had these up until about probably

five years ago. And that was such a challenge.

I remember Doritos had a Star Wars promotion.

I remember, like I said, Mountain Dew. I think

even Burger King had toys, I'm pretty sure. Yeah,

everybody had something. Yeah, I mean this was

a this was a multimedia juggernaut and I remember

reading online very early at the time people

were going to see movies that had the episode

one trailer see it and walk out and this is before

broadband was widely available. So this was This

was a big deal. So something I've never heard

of before this someone going to a theater just

to see the preview and walking out I did I'm

one of those people but I mean no no I mean I'd

never heard of it before but I mean I did hear

about it when that when this happened I remember

you know the the word spreading as far as which

movies would have the trailers and which movies

were gonna have that you know like a second version

of the trailer and people go in and just watching

that and I was like this is intense this is insane

I don't know did they now did they just show

the theatrical trailer or did they show a teaser

at some point because there is a teaser I thought

they showed multiple different. Okay, I was going

to say because I watched the teaser trailer on

the DVD and I'm thinking, wow, you just blew

your whole wad in the teaser. It's like, holy

crap, it shows not everything, but it shows a

good amount of it. I kind of figured, you know,

for me, for teasers, and this kind of comes off

of a certain 2007 giant robot film, for me, a

teaser just has to tease me. It doesn't have

to be a whole trailer. The problem is, though,

is filmmaking has changed a lot since Lucas made

these movies. I mean, if you compare trailers

from the 60s to the 70s to the 80s to the 90s

to the 2000s, you see a different progression

of how things are cut way back when. Like I said,

it's a different style of filmmaking. So when

you come into stuff like this, everybody is the

MTV generation. So you have to get the fast cuts,

show as much of it as you can, because the company

wants know it's going to make its money back.

So when you show everything like, oh man, that

looks cool. I got to see that. Think about movies

in the 80s and how those trailers looked. They

got you more interested in thinking, hmm, that

looks like a good movie. Maybe I want to see

that. I mean, look at teaser trailers for aliens.

It's a very good example. It tells you nothing.

It just says it just shows alien and them talking

and then it flashes aliens the trailer ends Star

Wars episode one teaser trailer Everything and

then you hear the fucking Darth Vader breathing

You know what I mean? It gives away too much

because they want you in the theater. They don't

want you to pass this up Right. Yeah, what about

you Steve? What are you? What are your initial

thoughts on episode one? To begin with fuck this

movie Anyways, to begin with, I thought that

episode one was kind of confusing because I'm

like, okay, who the hell are these people? At

the very beginning, although it did start off

on a nice action point. And granted, the special

effects did look a hell of a lot better than

the previous trilogy, which kind of, you know,

is a little bit, I don't know, offsetting. I

was not impressed with the whole Gungan thing.

I was one of the major haters of it. Jar Jar

Binks was the most annoying fucking character

that they could have ever come up with to basically

replace Chewbacca. Wow, that's really insulting

to Chewie. Well, Chewie was a hell of a lot better.

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it's like shut your pie hole you stupid looking

duck and Fucking duck man. They should have just

ate him use the force and cooked him but um Lightsabered

his head off and I would have stopped that whole

problem right there, but tell me how you really

feel Steve come on I will he should he should

have been on the receiving end of something Mike

talked about earlier, but anyways bad. Sorry.

Oh my god. Misa say it's icky. But anyways, yeah,

I just, I fucking hate that character. And then

the other half of the movie is spent trying to

figure out who this Anakin kid is, which for

most people pretty much realize who he is later.

You know, if they've seen the previous trilogy.

But most of the episodes was spent doing which

inspired the game, which granted the game is

cool, but they dragged the fucking race on for

so long. Yeah, I like that scene. It's like a

15 minute sequence, isn't it? Yeah, I like that

scene. They dragged it on so long that it gets

boring and Subulba's annoying and then you got

the freaking junkyard guy that owns it. Watto.

Yeah, Watto. And he's freaking annoying as hell

too. Don't know it's just too many damn CG Well

it gets to a point where every character besides

the Jedi and the Sith seem like they were created

for kids only Oh, yeah, and you know what the

sad thing is he got the inspiration from his

goddamn kid Which proves he wrote this thing

over a fucking weekend Yeah, his kid just starts

mumbling random or mumbo jumbo, and he's like

that's a good idea for the the new race of aliens

Because it's bad as avatar having unobtainium

Anyway, but you know it kind of goes into the

fact that he says and he's very kind of cryptic

with some of the things he says which kind of

weird but but some of the things he says I mean

he says when he wrote the original one in set

in the 70s that he did do some Backstories obviously

and wrote down some of the backstories for some

of the characters He didn't obviously write episode

one two and three back in the 70s So if you think

he did you're out of your freaking mind But even

when he was writing down some of these backstories

these are characters that he never came up with

until the 90s You know, Jar Jar Binks, Watto,

and Cebova were never a figment in his imagination

in the 70s. I would stake my life on it. Yeah.

Well, he even said in some kind of an interview

somewhere that he got the idea from his kids.

Right or whatever and that's the end and see

that this is the problem the stuff that he I

bet you the stuff that he came up With and the

stuff that he had wrote down back in the 70s

or even in the 80s as these Movies were coming

out and he was thinking, you know Oh, I want

to progress this a little bit and write some

stuff down that stuff. I'm guessing probably

was great It's the stuff that he came some of

the stuff he came up with Afterwards when he

was trying to gear this to a new generation and

get kids Watching it without realizing the fact

that when he did the original movies kids liked

it He didn't gear it towards kids, but kids liked

it. So why do you have to do that now? Kids are

going to like it if you just put out some good

shit. It seems like he dumbed it down too damn

much though. It was mostly to make a quick buck

to sell the toys so that he could re -release

the original trilogy in better quality and then

have the budget for the following films, which

they made such a shit ton of these toys that...

None of them are worth anything. I mean they're

all just shit. I mean I and they had the little

force chips and everything else but I mean Granted

I mean they they did do a lot of backstory for

like Palpatine Anakin, you know Obi -Wan Yoda

and the like but there were a lot of Bullshit

unneeded characters and everything's dumb. If

you look at it the battle droids are retarded

Now, I understand why and he kind of explains

that in the commentary a little bit about how

they're supposed to be basically early prototype

things that they were working on to try to get

them better and they eventually go with, you

know, create clones and etc that are better.

So these droids are supposed to be kind of like

these bad first versions, but they're dumb. The

Gungans are dumb. Anakin's retarded in the beginning

at times. Which unfortunately left a... bad taste

in the actor's mouth to the point that everybody

hated him personally for the role when it was

Lucas's fault. Yeah, and that's what I'm saying,

just every single character seemed like they

had a dumbed down personality outside of, like

I said before, the adult Jedi, the adult Sith,

and to a point, you know, obviously the droids,

the other droids, besides the battle droids,

like the ones we're used to, R2 and C -3PO and

stuff, are always kind of had that comedic thing,

but he didn't even dumb them down. like he did

everybody else. All these new characters seem

to be, I don't know. Well, I mean, even, you

know, the Senate and everybody else, they made

them dumber than hell because where the hell

would you put a guy that's, you know, purposely

creating propaganda, you know, oh, oh yeah, no

problem, no vote. We'll just put you in charge.

You know, they put Palpatine in charge, which

is right where he wanted to be. And then they

make Obi -Wan dumber than a box of rocks. I think

one of the big problems of this is looking at

the actual storyline of episode one, looking

about how everything started over a trade dispute,

over taxation. That's very political. You went

very political with it. It could have been an

assassination. Yeah, or like a scandal. Maybe

like members of the Senate were taken out, they've

been implicated. Yeah, like you said, maybe there's

like an assassination, prove this person's innocence,

or maybe there's... Corruption and there's like

an outright coup or something like that. Just

not fucking taxation and trade You know, this

is not c -span and fucking space This is the

American Revolution in space Wow I actually really

like the little battle droids. I thought they

were cool because they're funny characters because

when they kill them they're funny but i think

i think the problem is that if that is your only

dumb dumb character comic relief is the battle

droids that's fine because you have the destroyer

droids who are more intense you have the jet

i with their lightsaber battles which is intense

you know you have all this other stuff and you

can deal with some of the characters being younger

and more immature versions it's when you'd add

not only the battle droids but then the Gungans

and this on top of this on top of this where

everybody's dumb is the problem. And then you

get the two green guys from the Trade Federation,

which has been a pain in the ass for the first

three films of the prequel. Yeah, and that's

something else too. I'm trying to think of their

names. One of them is named Lot Dodd. Yeah, there's

a new generation in Lot Dodd. They're supposed

to be, actually it's funny, in the Expanded Universe,

they actually describe the battle droids look

like these guys when they're dead. That's why

the battle droids are supposed to be so terrifying

because they look like nemoidian skeletons. They

look fucking retarded and that's something else

too. There was never any threat outside of the

droidekas and even then force push dead. Even

Darth Maul to a limited extent was kind of neutered

because he could have taken out those guys anytime

he wanted to. Yeah. I mean, let's look at the

last scene, for example. He fucking stands on

top, gloating over Obi -Wan. Why don't you just

poke him with the dual lightsaber in the face?

Oh, dead. It's a wrestling move. It's a wrestling

move. He had to pose. And of course, posing in

wrestling gives your opponent a chance to get

up and kick your ass. Yeah, so it was a quick

time event that mall failed. Well, it's like

the gloating event of Optimus Prime and Megatron.

Megatron gloats. Prime busts his ass. Well, I

mean, it's classic. It's not that we haven't

seen this in every freaking cartoon we've ever

watched as a kid. The bad guy's not allowed to

kill the good guy, so he has to gloat until the

good guy can get out of it. I mean, it's not

like it's something new. I think they could have

pulled it off a little bit better and not had

him stand there for 20 seconds after Obi -Wan

had jumped over him and just waiting for himself

to get killed, but that's another thing. So let's

get into the casting here. Mike, who was your

favorite character in this? I really liked Ewan

McGregor as Obi -Wan. I thought... He added just

the right amount of personality into the role.

I loved Liam Neeson I really wish he'd gotten

a lot more screen time Jake Lloyd wasn't a bad

kid actor. Actually. I thought he's done fantastic.

You should see what he looks like nowadays. Oh

my god It's a drastic change. Yeah, like I seen

this kid at a Star Wars con a couple of years

ago Yeah, you were who in what? Yeah Other than

the, um... Jimmy Smits, was he in this as Bail

Organa? No, that's episode three. Okay, yeah.

I'm trying to think who else was in this. Um...

Natalie Portman as Padme or Queen Amidala. Uh...

She wasn't bad, I thought. I just thought she

got a lot of really wussy lines. Yeah. Well,

that was what he wanted. She wasn't well -developed,

and this is supposed to be the future mother

of the rebellion? What the fuck? Ray Park as

Darth Maul was awesome. Oh yeah. You had Ian

McDermott and Samuel L. Jackson. Oh yeah, Samuel

L. Jackson was still cool as hell. I would have

to say, and this will come in later, but I'd

have to say overall, outside of some of the more

classic characters, I think Mace Window is my

favorite out of the prequels. For me, not in

this movie. I don't know, in this movie, I'm

like Mike, I really liked Ewan McGregor as Obi

-Wan. I'm a huge Liam Neeson fan, so he could

have played anybody and I would have liked him.

And I love, whatchamacallit, Ray Park as Darth

Maul. You know, he's just a fantastic guy. For

some reason, I do have a problem with Jake Lloyd

as Anakin. I don't know why, I just didn't like

him. Yeah, I just didn't like him. He was too

goody -goody. You didn't see the side of Anakin

that would eventually come out later, right?

I know that's the point but but you should have

saw at least some kind of an inkling that he

was going to go that way Yeah, and I was always

I was I was always uh, you know He just looked

almost like they started him out too young Like

I wanted I don't know like everybody's innocent

as a nine -year -old You know, I would rather

them because basically we have him as a nine

-year -old and then we jump until he's in episode

two where he's 19 Yeah, like 19. I would have

rather seen at some point What is this kid like

at like 12 or 13 when you're really starting

to you know, get your identity? I would rather

seen that than seen a nine -year -old Well, you

know the other thing is that I want to point

out and then I'll be pointing out throughout

most of this this prequel talk here is that They

make a really big deal between episodes one and

two that Padme is so much older than Anakin She's

only five years older than him in this film.

I thought it was like a nine -year difference.

No, she's 14. It says that she came in... 9 and

14. Yeah, she came to power at 14. Listen to

the Weird Al song. It was still in it that is

still probably to this day one of the things

that as far as talking to most Star Wars fans

That threw them off the most about this first

movie that they were setting up a relationship

Which looked at the movie without knowing how

old they are you're guessing that this kid's

like eight or nine and she looks more like she's

like 20 something 16. Yeah, she almost looks

like she's like out of high school Yeah, I mean

especially when you're thinking that you know

when she is portrayed as the Queen Oh, and I

know back in the day, you know, I know if you

go way back in history Yeah, Queens are you know,

we're 14 years old in certain cultures, etc,

etc But we're not used to that in our culture

So it just was a disconnect from the beginning

that this little kid and this not that he's got

a thing for her That's fine. That's normal, but

it was that you could see that it was setting

this whole relationship on but it just seemed

weird yeah she had a lady boner for him robbing

the cradle kevin who is your favorite character

from episode one um... if i had to pick one because

it's the only time i get to it's it's got to

be ray park as darth maul or darth maul as that

character that character right i mean i can't

pick him again in episode two or episode three

so i'll pick him now steve what about you for

this one i would have to say jar jar What? I

almost just made a humongous mess. Too big. The

ending credits. Sorry. Whatever. I would have

to say probably Eamonn McGregor just because

it was cool to see a young Obi -Wan and he did

kind of have some of the likenesses and Tendencies

for the that particular character from the later

trilogy Yeah Let's see what what what's what's

your what is everybody's least favorite character

Jar Jar? Yes Okay, just making sure um Why was

actually 3po actually oh really why why because

he serves no purpose he serves no purpose because

intro Yeah, it's kind of like giving in the origin

story of Spider -Man. We see the origins of 3PO

and the fact that it ties back to the original

trilogy that 3PO was actually built by Luke's

father. Did 3PO have his memory banks completely

erased at some point? Yes. They actually do refer

this even in the Expanded Universe stuff too,

but it conflicts with the established Expanded

Universe. I don't know, why wouldn't Vader be

surprised to see 3PO years later? That's another

thing too, 3PO's model of protocol droid didn't

exist at this time. I was just thinking, when

3PO was back in the exact same spot that he was

in episode 1, in episode 4, like in the exact

same room on Tatooine... Like, shouldn't... I

don't know. Something should have triggered,

like, hey, I've been here before. Although R2

still had his memory. Yeah, why didn't R2 just

spill the fucking guts? Oh hey, guys, by the

way... We're kind of jumping ahead here that

actually comes into play at the end of episode

3. Because Bail Organa says to whoever he hands

off 3PO in R2 to, he says... and wipe the protocol

droid's memory. And 3PO is like, what? But they

never actually say to wipe R2's memory. And I

think the reason why, and it's just me thinking

that Lucas maybe had this idea was - Plot oversight?

Well, it could be plot oversight, but it could

be the fact that - Protect my ass. What Kevin?

He was just trying to protect his ass from all

the contradictions that would happen. It's just

that easy plot twist. Everybody's memory is erased

just in case anything in the next three movies

doesn't fit up. And the other thing with R2 is,

you know, if you look at the original trilogy,

R2 always knew more than almost everybody else

beforehand. Well, it's just like when he fixed,

uh, Amidala's, uh, ship. Yup. He was the only

smart one to move out of the way so he didn't

get blasted. Yup. He might have been the smartest

character in the film. I would have to say so.

In the entire franchise, I would say. Well, no,

he's not smarter than Yoda. Well, no, as far

as robots, I would say. Yeah. In the entire franchise,

it's R2 -D2. Do or do not. There is no try. Thanks,

Yoda. Um, so let's see. Let's talk about the

effects. I mean we kind of mentioned it a little

bit before but The effects on this just look

amazing Except for one thing in my opinion Jar

Jar No, no, no the CG this the digital stuff

done in this one compared to what we're gonna

see in episode 3 Is no like there's no comparison

They they improved their digital character so

much by episode 3 that watching it back Some

of this stuff in episode 1 looks a lot more fake

than it did the first time I watched it. Oh,

yeah And you know, I know he's a he's a big fan

on on visual effects and the visual effects are

you know, like I said before revolutionary But

to him, I don't I don't know he doesn't see things

that look fake I guess and to me it's very obvious

sometimes when it's digital Yeah. For me, I love

a lot of the effects. I really enjoy all the

lightsaber battles. I actually bought the Phantom

Menace PlayStation 1 video game when it came

out. Which one? Because there were several. The

film one. The one that I liked that came out

of this one was Jedi Power Battles. You could

play as Caddy Bundy, Kit Fisto, Obi -Wan, and

Qui -Gon. Yeah. Which is arguably the best Star

Wars game to come out of that one. Well, I guess

if you count Naboo Star, I think it was called

Star Wars Starfighter where you fought with Naboo

stuff. Talking about actually just kind of to

talk on your point about the lightsaber battles

when the fight choreographer Nick Gileard did

the fight Choreography, which I think he did

for like this way. I think he's done the entire

prequel stuff They wanted to show Jedi's in their

prime not old men and guys who hadn't fought

in 20 years, right? I thought that was a fantastic

choice to show these guys what they can do and

I was really happy from From from that standpoint

to see them actually doing cool shit Another

thing to mention about this movie is the props.

I would kill for a Qui -Gon Jinn FX saber, which

has been rumored for years when the license used

to be with Master Replicas. There were prototypes

done up. I've seen one of them. I mean, even

Obi -Wan's Episode 1 saber has been made into

props. I mean, if you're a big fan of the prop

collecting community, you know Master Replicas

and Icons did stuff, and they're tremendously

neat. One of the cool - pieces I own from this

movie is I have the double -bladed Darth Maul

saber that came out in 2006. Which you can actually

attach it in the middle and have a seven foot

fucking lightsaber, which is tremendously cool

I got this for Valentine's Day back in 2006.

I think I've seen one of those up close and they're

pretty cool Yeah, and you know, like you said,

I think I think the lightsaber I think it was

a great idea to contrast the styles that would

be around it in the time of the prequels compared

to what we're gonna get when we have people in

the original trilogy who are number one really

old or Not really human anymore more or number

two, way out of practice or have no training.

And I think it was good to see the difference

between these types of fights that we had in

the original trilogy to this more prime time,

you know, polished fighting that we have in the

prequel. My favorite thing visually and from

an effect standpoint is the planets that they

create. and the the scenery and all this stuff

because you know we had already exhausted all

of the earth the landscape you can find on earth

basically you know in the original trilogy we

had the desert we had the the forest area we

had the the snow area and all that so the way

they created these futuristic planets that was

impossible back in the seventies is something

that i think they did an excellent job on now

one of the cool things is they actually shot

the visual FX plates for the waterfall in for

Naboo in Niagara Falls. Which is kinda cool,

plus to create that effect that's actually not

water, that's salt. Which is tremendously neat.

So this thing definitely pushed digital effects

forward. The only complaint about the effects

in this movie is the Yoda puppet looks stupid.

Yeah. It sits back in an archive, and I think

it was Steve Sansweet, who's like one of the

big guys in the Star Wars community, said the

Yoda puppet, because he's been sitting there

for so long and hasn't moved, his face looks

like he's farting. Yeah, this is the worst Yoda

out of the six movies as far as look goes. Oh,

yeah. She looks the oldest. Yeah, it just doesn't

look right. Well, the other thing is that in

episode one they used a puppet, episodes two

and three, it was a digital animation. Cause

they learned. Cause they what? Cause they learned.

Puppets are very hard to do right unless you

take the time. And Luke, it's not like Lucas

didn't have money. It's just the guy that got

the duet, it looks fucking retarded. Yeah. Um,

Star Wars has always had great soundtracks and

this one is no exception and I am so glad. Sometimes

with films like with, say you have an original

film and have a sequel. I don't like when they

change composers. Depends on... I mean, it depends.

If you're going from a mediocre composer to a

mediocre composer, that's one thing. You can't

go from John Williams to somebody else. Well,

right. But I mean, like, what I'm saying is,

like... Don't think I would have liked any of

the Star Wars soundtracks if say John Williams

did three of them and then they brought in Danny

Elfman to do the other three I don't think I

would have liked the Danny Elfman versions is

what I'm saying base I'm agreeing with you because

John Williams is like the greatest composer as

far as movie music goes of all time So anyone

else thrown in there would have looked retarded

Yeah, I think other people could have done it

but it wouldn't feel the same because John Williams

has a very specific musical style when he does

that I'm not saying somebody like say James Horner

couldn't do a good score because look at the

score for the movie aliens look at how well that

sets up the movie but a Star Wars score is so

different you could not have brought on anybody

else to do that now if John Williams had passed

away let's just say There could have been other

composers. Danny Elfin may not have been a bad

choice. James Horner's another good one. There's

the guy, Hans Zimmerman's another good one. Hans

Zimmer, yeah. Yeah, so there's a lot of people

they could have went to, but it's a Williams

score. Lucas was not not going to bring this

guy back. I'm like, hey, John, you want to do

it? I've only been waiting 25 years there, George.

And you know, Mike kind of already mentioned

the Duel of the Fates. It even received its own

music video, which uses the chorus introduced

to give the religious temple -like feel to the

epic lightsaber duel. And, you know, you had

also mentioned, Mike, about you can hear part

of the Imperial March theme in Anakin's theme.

Yeah, like you can just hear a few kind of notes

in it. And another really good piece of music

from this film, it's actually the end score and

it's called Augie's Great Municipal Band. Just

listen to that. I mean, especially if you can

hear this in in five point one or if you got

really good headphones, just listen to all the

different instruments and the layers of sound

in there. It's fucking beautiful. Kevin, do you

have any trivia for episode one? I don't know,

two interesting things from episode one. There's

not as many to choose from, obviously, in this

one. If you're watching the pod race, which I

always like to skip, but if you're watching the

pod race, at one point they give a shot where

you see Anakin from the front with Subalba behind

him. But in one shot, Subalba's pod racer is

there and he is not anywhere in that thing. So

you can see Anakin and his podracer and you can

see Subalva's podracer behind him, but there's

no Subalva. So that's interesting. And my favorite

part about this is when they're in the Senate

council chamber and they're showing the different,

you kind of get a little, some different shots

at different groups that are in individual pods.

One of them is the ET family. And you can see

like, I don't remember how many, there's like

three or four actual ET characters in one of

the pods. Now, aren't the aliens and the predators

here too? Yes. That's what I thought. One of

them is. I don't know if the predators are. I

think maybe aliens is. I forget. The E .T.'s

are the easiest to spot though. Oh yeah. Yeah.

And that's just cool. Getting into the film's

release and box office and stuff like that. The

release of the first new Star Wars film in 16

years was accompanied by a considerable amount

of hype. Few film studios release films during

the same week as the release of The Phantom Menace.

Wow. You don't see that nowadays, especially

like next year. We've got like, what is it like,

one DC film versus like six Marvel films. Well,

you do see it sometimes though. Like when Transformers

came out, Die Hard completely moved to a different

week. Right. Yeah, so I mean you see it depending

on the movies and depending what types of movies

and what kind of genre and demographic they're

going after But you still see that more actually

I think movies nowadays are more strategic about

their release date than they ever have been before.

Oh, yeah As far as some reaction to it, it's

received mixed reviews from film critics It received

a rating of 62 % from Rotten Tomatoes uh... you

know i didn't critics what whatever that they

they can have their opinions and we probably

run tomatoes not bad though complain you know

compared to just if you're just looking at a

cisco or ebert or if you're just looking at this

guy at least run tomatoes is kind of uh... a

compilation of reviews yeah oh no i totally agree

a it's usually pretty uh... pretty good i mean

obviously everyone has their own personal taste

but it's usually a pretty good uh... a meter

to to judge what the what the uh... general consensus

is on a movie And you know, Mr. Tiny Dick Roger

Ebert gave it three and a half out of four stars

calling it an astonishing achievement in imaginative

filmmaking. This is his favorite one, isn't it?

I don't know. We'll have to see once we get to

the other ones. I'm pretty sure this is his favorite

one. Wouldn't be surprised. I wasn't going to

say anything. I was just trying to say um. I

think that's the one he rated the highest. After

the release of the film, there was controversy

over whether several of the alien characters

reflected racial stereotypes. This happens a

lot nowadays, actually. Well, I mean, look at

Transformers Revenge of the Fallen, although

that one is much worse. I would have to say it's

much worse. despite the fact that it's almost

fairly true in certain areas, especially in Michigan,

it's still just as bad. Except that one's more

noticeable. Jar Jar is just, you get some, who

cares, you get a black guy doing a goofy voice.

I mean, it's no different. You can make just

about any alien seem like he's a... a slam on

one race or another, even if there is intention

or no intention. Yeah, I would have to agree.

What about you, Mike? Yeah, I mean, it's up to

interpretation. And obviously now we're in the

era of the pissed off. Political correctness

so you know what fuck y 'all they're fucking

space aliens shut up. There's a bunch of different

races in space So obviously they're gonna represent

a bunch of different races. It's multicultural.

What the fuck more do you want right? It's a

multiverse of cultures Oh Wow just looking at

some of the award stuff here one of the things

you kind of jumped out at me uh empire ranked

the phantom menace 449th in the 2008 list of

the 500 greatest movies of all time i honestly

cannot believe this movie even made that list

well it had to simply because you look at the

marketing campaign you look at the hype it had

behind it you look at where it sits in the pantheon

of the star wars saga it makes sense it's kind

of a bullshit reason for it to be on there but

uh It is the biggest money maker, basically.

It's one of them, yeah. Well, for Star Wars,

unless you're obviously adjusting for inflation,

just going straight dollars, this is the biggest

one, money -wise. So I guess all the hype and

the whatnot was paid off in the end. So let's...

Do the IGN replacement crew here. We have one,

two, three, or four. One being the worst and

four being the best. Steve, what would you rate

Phantom Menace? This is not, we didn't ask you

what you would rate Jar Jar. We asked you what

you would rate the overall film. Two. Okay. Mike?

give it a three, because you know what, it's

not that bad. Like I said, I think it requires

multiple viewings to truly appreciate it. It's

just not the strongest way to restart the saga.

It's not the story I would have told. Right.

Kevin? Two. Two. I, unfortunately, like in passing,

if I didn't already have the DVD, I would say

probably a two or a three, but since I do have

the DVD, It's not a must -add to your collection,

but if you are a Star Wars geek and you want

to be completest with the films, you should have

all six films on DVD. Oh, yeah. There's nothing

wrong with having them all, but that doesn't

mean I'm gonna rank it any higher than I need

to. Oh, right. And like I said, I agree with

you guys. It's a solid two or three, but, you

know, on the flip side, I still have it, so...

Yeah, I have all six as well, but I don't care.

ever watch this one yeah I would rather watch

a lot of other ones before this one I like three

and six I have to agree with that actually as

we said it is on DVD the first time actually

it marks the first time a Star Wars film was

ever on DVD I think I think this was also the

last VHS ever produced yeah rights on both accounts

I do want to mention, because we didn't talk

about it before, a little bit of the deleted

scenes on this one, even though I don't think

they're that great. Out of all three of the prequels

that we're talking about, this one had the worst

out of the deleted scenes, mostly because half

of the deleted scenes are just parts of the pod

race that they cut out. Which if you watch the

movie you figure nothing got cut from that because

it's freaking an hour long pod race But you know

there was a couple of parts cut out from there.

There is a kind of a neat battle between or a

little scuffle between Anakin and Greedo the

only reason that's kind of cool is because at

the end One of the other characters says to Greedo

you better be careful or you're gonna meet bad

end or whatever which is kind of a little cool

little quote and then there's another scene where

they're Obi -Wan and Qui -Gon are on the waterfall

coming into the freaking am not remembering where

they're coming to us yeah coming into the palace

and they kind of get stuck in the ship goes over

the edge but they they make it away they make

it away from it so those are the really the only

deleted scenes it almost not even worth watching

actually on this disc I didn't even watch them

Yeah, they're pointless. They're lame. They're

lame. They're lame. They're lame. So up next,

you're going to hear the trailer for episode

2, Attack of the Clones. It's a great pleasure

to see you again, lady. It has been far too long,

Master Kenobi. Annie? My goodness, you've grown.

So have you. You've grown more beautiful, I mean.

Just being around her again is intoxicating.

Be mindful of your thoughts, Anakin. They betray

you. You have made a commitment to the Jedi Order,

a commitment not easily broken. Please don't

look at me like that. Why not? It makes me feel

uncomfortable. Sorry, m 'lady. Must be difficult

having sworn your love to the Jedi. Not being

able to do the things you like. I'll be with

the people that I love. Are you allowed to love?

I thought that was forbidden for a Jedi. No,

I'd be much too frightened to tease the Senate.

We could keep it a secret. I'd be living a lie.

I couldn't do that. Could you, Anakin? She's

a politician and they are not to be trusted.

I've heard this lesson before. You haven't learned

anything, Anakin. It's all Obi -Wan's fault.

He's holding me back! You're not all -powerful,

Anakin. Well, I should be. Someday I will be

the most powerful Jedi ever. Up next is episode

2, Attack of the Clones, which is a 2002 American

space opera film directed by George Lucas, no

surprise there, and written by Lucas and Jonathan

Hules. It is the fifth film to be released in

the Star Wars saga, and the second in the terms

of the internal chronology. As we said in episode

1, it's set 10 years after the events. of Phantom

Menace. Steve, when you first saw this in theaters,

what were your initial thoughts on this one?

Actually, I don't think I saw this particular

one in theater. I think I didn't have any money

to go. But I did see this when it did come out

for rental. And I would have to say that I like

this one a bit more. just because it skipped

some time and you could see how far everybody

had gone in that 10 -year span of time, as well

as some, of course, new things that happened

to pop up, such as the new Sith. Apprentice and

the Supreme Chancellor Palpatine. You can see

him getting more twisted. You can see Anakin

becoming more and more resentful of Obi -Wan

and more and more leaning on Palpatine. In general,

you can see that he was filled with rage towards

everything. There's just a lot of this film that

it was building up for the epic battle of the

next film. What about you, Kevin? You know, I

was pumped for this one. I'm pumped for every

Star Wars movie that comes out. I don't care

if they made 100 of them. I'd be excited for

every single one of them. But going into this

one was obviously a much different feeling than

going into the first one. Going into the first

one, you have, like we said in the previous part,

you know, you have 20 plus years of hype, and

it's all leading up to episode one. And then

you leave episode one. Disappointed to I mean

you have to be partially disappointed when you

leave after episode one So then you go into episode

two still excited because it's still Star Wars

and you're still gonna give it a chance but you're

also kind of skeptical and Maybe it was because

I was going in with you know with not as high

of expectations But this one was obviously a

much more satisfying feeling leaving the theater

Yeah, what about you Mike? Um, this is a movie

I actually didn't see till a few months after

it had been out I did see it in theaters, but

I it's weird this this movie I didn't really

like for the longest time and it's only in the

last two years. I've come to appreciate This

is probably it's in my top. I don't know. It's

of the prequels. It's my second favorite Because

I like what they do. I love Count Dooku Christopher

Lee is fucking awesome I also love how they talk

about how the army came to be But the thing with

this movie though is they try once again to juggle

too many plot threads So the movie never feels

like it's going anywhere. I find it kind of drags

in places again I mean, that's the big problem

with the prequels There's a lot of elements.

You got to get in fucking quick But, uh, I don't

know, I mean, the only part I didn't really like

is I didn't... I wasn't a huge fan of some of

the minor characters in this movie. I wasn't

a big fan of Zam Wessel, the bounty hunter who

tries to kill Anakin and clearly, or sorry, tries

to kill Amidala and fucks him. But, I don't know,

I found this movie... Once again, I find it gets

better with time, especially if you're a big

fan of the Clone Wars era of Star Wars. I find

this sets up a lot of really neat backstory and

expanded universe stuff. Like one game that was

based almost exclusively on episode two was awesome,

was Star Wars Bounty Hunter, talking about Jango

Fett. I'm a huge Fett fan. I love Jango. Jango

is probably one of my top three favorite characters

across the entire franchise. I mean even above

kind of Boba Fett. I think he's more badass personally,

but I don't know I mean I think it's a movie

that requires multiple viewings to truly appreciate

it Yeah, you know as far as the whole Fett thing

You know Django actually got more action than

Boba did honestly He ended up actually being

the whole If you think about it, he's got the

most appearances in the entire franchise. Well,

yeah, because of the clones, but... But you gotta,

you know, this again goes back to the fact that

these were not written back in 1970 or 1980.

These are written currently. And the reason I

bring that up is because you can't compare...

You know, the reason Boba gets no airtime is

because Lucas had no clue that that was going

to be everyone's favorite character when he made

them. Right. So, you know, and now that he knows

that, when he goes in to make these prequels,

of course, you know, he's going to have to try

to find a way to get Boba or something like Boba

in Django in there and as a main part because

of how much everyone liked it from the original

trilogy. So. You know, of course Django is going

to get more play time because now George Lucas

actually has a little bit of knowledge as to

which character is going to be favorites. Yes.

So, Kevin, why don't you summarize episode two

for us? All right. Basically, we have a couple

of sasshings. A sasshing? What's in a sasshing?

We have a couple assassination attempts on the

Queen, including the poison dart by the character

we just mentioned previously. Sam Wessel. Yeah,

Sam Wessel, the changeling. And the little centipede

bot guys. I don't know if they had an official

name. So you have these two assassination attempts.

I can't say that word apparently tonight. which

leads us to Anakin going with the Queen back

to Naboo to protect her and leads Obi -Wan to

trying to find the source of this dart which

leads him to Kamino and kind of you know fast

forwarding through that a little bit but he goes

to Kamino discovers this creation of this clone

army so to speak uh... and which eventually is

going to lead him on a uh... tracking mission

of uh... django all the way to uh... genosis

so that's kind of where we have the the two main

stories going on we had will be one tracking

django all the way to genosis meanwhile we had

uh... anakin with padme on the blue eventually

she convinces her to go back to tada we need

to uh... see his mom or to practice protect his

mom because he has the the nightmare vision or

whatever you wanna call it Which leads to him

finding out obviously that his mom's dead, he

kills a bunch of Tuskens. Well, now wait a second

here, I have to interrupt you just a minute.

She wasn't totally dead when he found her. Well,

obviously. She was more or less fucking toast.

Right. But anyways, that eventually leads to

the meeting of everybody in Geonosis as we have

Anakin... padme and obi -wan all captured in

the uh... the genosis basically uh... glad gladiatorial

arena uh... and they're fighting the monsters

in the big pit and then of course we have the

clone army show up with yoda and mace and all

those guys and we have uh... an epic huge battle

in the in the arena uh... which is the rest of

the movie basically one of the things i want

to bring up was uh... The role of Padme between

episode 1 and episode 2. Obviously episode 1

she was the queen. Now because so much time has

passed within the films, she's now just a senator.

And of course there were hints at some point

in episode 3, and we'll get to that, but there

were hints that, you know, they were actually

going to start the Rebel Alliance. Right. What

do we think of the character change? I mean obviously

you can only be queen for so... so much amount

of time, but I mean, what do you guys think of

the character change for Padme? Mike? I much,

much preferred her in this one. Yeah, I do too.

She's less of a pussy than she was in Ep 1, and

way better than Ep 3. Exactly. Where she turns

barefoot and fucking pregnant. This is the best

you're gonna see Padme. She's kind of along the

lines of Leia in this one. Yeah, exactly, she

tries to be... proactive and actually do she

had the on his uniform at one point i find anakin's

a bit of a whiny vagina in this movie yes yes

but my favorite character like i said is cow

dooku because he is he's he's a charming guy

i'm sorry i didn't even i didn't even mention

and mention him in the plot that's my bad yeah

well yeah i mean this episode well People that

are listening have clearly already seen these

movies. I can imagine all the hate mails piling

up for all the facts are probably getting wrong.

But, I don't know, Count Dooku, I thought, was

a very interesting apprentice to Darcydius. Basically,

you can see him building the Confederacy of Independent

Systems, which is more or less told, hey guys,

the Republic sucks, we're gonna split off, do

our own thing. And then, you know, you get, you

know, the Techno Union breaking off and all that

shit. So, I don't know, there's a lot more going

on this, and I like how Count Dooku is orchestrating

it. And once again, go read the Expanded Universe

stuff, because there's a lot of plot holes that

get filled in, and you get to see just how Count

Dooku came to be like this. In fact, the Dark

Horse series covering the Clone Wars that happens

after this movie is fucking fantastic. So, um...

I don't know, I'm trying to think of another

thing I can mention. Oh yeah, R2 Flying is stupid.

No, no, no, hold on, hold on, wait a second,

hold on, shut up. I'm sorry. No, R2 Flying is

awesome. The whole point of R, the whole point

of the prequels minus episode one, episode two

and episode three. You know, we get teased in

episode 4, 5, and 6 of telling of the past, of

the Clone Wars, and of all this stuff. Episode

2 and episode 3 is where we see the action that

happened, and R2 Flying is awesome. How did R2

Flying have anything to do with what you just

said? That's what I want to know because he is

more he sees more action We said they said in

episode four, you know, three people said oh

with all the action we've seen So it's that's

a reference. I'll give you this I would much

rather see our two flying than see all the dumb

characters. We saw in episode one. Okay? All

right That is the lone point I will give you

one of the things and this I guess I'll talk

about more about this kind of later on You can

see where Anakin definitely goes more towards

the dark side of this movie, more specifically

looking at his lightsaber design. It basically,

it's a chrome Empire Strikes Back saber. And

it's probably my second favorite saber of the

original trilogy. We also hadn't kind of mentioned

it, but just because you said something about

lightsabers, the whole theme here of everybody

losing their lightsabers and dropping it. Yeah,

it's like, oh, it's coated in grease, can't hold

on to it, whoa. Right. You were talking about

your favorite character and stuff, and I like

Count Dooku and the fact that they did a good

job bringing in completely different Sith people.

It would have been bad if they tried to make

another badass Darth Maul type character. And

I like the fact that we had this younger, you

know, badass Darth Maul character in the first

one. And now we have a kind of an older experience,

kind of more sly guy, not as athletic per se,

but still just a bad just. as much of a badass

fighter, but I like the differences between those

two characters. My favorite character, though,

in this one would be, just because I am a huge

Fett fan, I'd probably have to say Jango Fett.

That's because he's fucking harsh, man. The thing

about Dooku, then, something we need to bring

up was, he was a Jedi. He got turned. Mm -hmm.

And that's why he is in this movie, is because

they want to show and kind of, you know, give

everybody a hint as to what happens and what

can turn someone and that it has been done before

and what steps it takes to get there so that

we can kind of understand it when it's happening

to Anakin just like it happened to Count Dooku.

Right, yeah. So it ties a lot of stuff together.

I mean, basically, it's the seduction of power,

and I think Dooku really believes he can change

things. I mean, Dooku is being manipulated at

the core level by Sidious. I mean, he was a good

guy in the beginning, but Sidious warped this

guy over years and years and years, which you

definitely start to see how Sidious has been

planning this thing pretty much right from the

kind of get -go. That's another thing I love

about this movie. There is a nice subtext to

see. just how much all this is going according

to plan. Yeah, I just, I did find it slightly

odd that Count Dooku or some version of him was

at least not somewhere in the background or made

some type of appearance in episode one, even

if he didn't have a speaking role, even if he

wasn't named, just because this guy didn't just

appear out of nowhere. Well, it was also mentioned

in the Expanded Universe, he'd left the Republic

for quite some time. I think, I can't remember

whether he was with Jorah Seaboth during the,

this, there was a project that happened I think

around this time where they sent Jedi into the

unknown regions and I think he was part of that

team. I'm once again, I'm not sure Mike at thisweekengeek

.net if I'm fucking this up, but I just remember

he'd left for a while. So Sidious had also, he

had to follow the Sith rule of two. You can only

have one master. and one apprentice, but that

doesn't mean you can't have multiple people waiting

in the wings to fucking stab each other, but

that's what screwed over the Sith back in the

Old Republic, because there were too many of

them, so I'm not surprised we didn't see Sidious

for quite some time, plus the fact that if he

remains in his persona of, hey, I'm still a good

guy, I still care, it makes sense for him to

stay out of it. Well, and the whole thing throughout

all three of these prequel films, Up until episode

three, you get hints of Sidious. He is still

Palpatine up until episode three, but you get

hints of the Sidious side of his personality

throughout all three films. Yeah. What about

you, Steve? What do you think? I think the whole

Count Dooku thing was kind of cool for this one.

It was nice to see Yoda actually do something

other than sit on his ass. The droids, I could

care less. The Boba Fett thing with a Django,

that was pretty kick -ass having that show up

in this in such an awesome way. The other bounty

hunters, two craps less about you could definitely

see like all the aging as far as the characters

like how they looked acted interacted with each

other Anakin should have had his ass beat and

then a lightsaber stabbed through his heart but

you know then again he gets his later It was

nice to see them kind of have like a build -up

and a battle kind of in a way similar to Empire

Strikes Back in the sense of that they just have

a bunch of random fronts going on. Yeah. But

again, it's not really, I mean, it's by far better

than episode one. Oh, yeah. And it's an even

more set up for Episode 3, but it's not particularly

my favorite in this trilogy. Yeah, but I don't

know, it's just one of those things where, like

you said Steve, it sets up Episode 3. It just

does. I mean, it's pretty much the entire film.

It's just a setup. It's showing where they got

these clone armies. Everybody's standing on each

side of the fence and just basically setting

up for the final card to be played by Palpatine.

Yeah, you're right. Where do we want to go from

here? Do we want to talk about more of the actual

film stuff? Well, I actually do have a story

relating to one of the characters of this movie,

actually. I actually met Daniel Logan a couple

years ago, actually, and he told me a story about

him and Ewan McGregor when they were doing one

of the fight scenes together. Evidently, part

of Ewan McGregor's wonderful repertoire of acting

advice is he told young Daniel Logan, okay, I

want you to make a face. Like, you just smelled

a really bad fart. And that was where Jango Fett

and Obi -Wan are talking in the apartment on

Kamito. And look at Daniel Logan's face and think,

smelly fart. You can see it. And I remember Daniel

Logan just telling me how he was a huge joker

on set, stuff like that, which was kind of cool.

And then later on, I actually met Tamura Morrison.

who played Jango Fett. He's another really nice

guy. Didn't get an interview with him, but I

got a promo from him. So yeah, it's really cool.

Sometimes I choose it for Twig. He's like, he

oughta, this is Jango Fett. And he's a very nice

guy. But yeah, it was kind of cool meeting some

of these people who I love in the prequels, although

I hope Daniel Logan gets to play young Boba Fett

when the Star Wars television show finally gets

rolling. But yeah, so there's a little bit of

stuff you didn't know plus Count Dooku's lightsaber

is the shit just saying Yeah, and well, I think

one thing that separates this one from episode

one though is like I said during when we were

talking about episode one episode one to me did

not feel like a Star Wars movie and this one

did because they had so many different things

that were You know tie -ins to the original trilogy

that that the first one didn't have I don't know

if it's because the first one they were just

all too young and it had to Set up all this stuff

and you know, there was so much Wasted time and

and humor added into it, but this one I mean

you see when you see the clone army being assembled

it's just epic and when you see some of the things

like the different What am I trying to say here?

Like the chase scenes that we see instead of

a pod race you get back to some of the chase

scenes like we had in the original trilogy uh...

you have the same tattooing location being used

again and you have the connection with burrow

and lars and the blue milk and there's just all

these different things with the same people it

just ties it in so much better makes it feel

like a star wars movie to me where the episode

one just didn't do that well i don't think yes

it is tattooing but i don't think it's the same

place like it's not anywhere near mos Eisley

i don't think is it No no no, I'm talking about

the place where Brew and Lars are. Oh, okay.

That's actually a little bit of trivia. They

actually searched out and found the exact location

that they used when filming the original trilogy

in Tunisia. It's the exact same spot. That's

awesome. And you know, that kind of explains,

I think you mentioned it when we were talking

about the original trilogy too, when they see

Brew and Lars, and you know, when Lars is kind

of... Now known as Anakin's stepbrother if you

want to put it together that kind of explains

why Luke goes there I think you were questioning

that before right what I was what I was questioning

was how the hell is Lars or uncle Owen his uncle

and all that but now that obviously I you know,

I see that now because he's Anakin's stepbrother

And I think what? All I was going to say really

quick was I think they did a really good casting

job with Owen and Beru. Because they look spot

on like younger selves of the older versions.

I agree with that a lot. One of the other tie

-ins, I just remembered it now that I was trying

to think of between this one and the old ones.

I like how they did when they're going through

the asteroid. field and Obi -Wan tries to do

the little you know he hides on the one success

oh yeah it's kind of like the Falcon well I love

how they do how that's why Boba Fett doesn't

fall for it when the Falcon does it because he

had already seen that trick used right so I love

that type of stuff that's tied in between episode

2 and episode 3 and the original trilogy and

we didn't get any of that with episode 1 right

yeah What's everybody's favorite part or favorite

scene from this one? The ending with the clone

army. Yes. For sure. Just seeing them line up

with those victory class star destroyers, seeing

them march out, seeing the different clone ranks,

the captains, the lieutenants. If you can't tell,

I'm a bit of a military buff. But I loved it.

Maybe we should change your last name to Bay.

Fucking aim. Oh my god. I love Michael anyways.

Anyways, we're not going there Yeah for me I

will agree, but I like the the Dooku Yoda lightsaber

battle because as we set up, you know In episode

one, it was just a puppet whereas now Yoda for

action. He's days all digital animation Yeah

But that scene was so overhyped for like 30 seconds

of fight scene. That's kind of true, too, but

it's still a pretty kickass scene. I think we're

all going to have a different favorite scene

on this one because I do love the ending fight

scene. I think the ending fight scene is the

best fighting scene in a group as far as big,

massive military like or group fighting. That's

one of the best fight scenes we get in all six

movies. with the only one maybe rivaling it to

me is the Hoth scene but I love that fight scene

but I think my favorite scene is a combination

of number one scene the clones assembled the

first time when you see them kind of all together

that really is a kind of an epic scene and I

love the scene when Anakin takes out the sand

people yeah that was pretty badass that was badass

it was dark it made sense it was not kid -like

you know there was nothing you know they didn't

Trying to tame it down too much and it was just

badass Right. What about you Mike? Yeah, I kind

of are already another favorite scene that I

do like is Probably the scene I talked about,

Daniel Logan, where you see those two characters

connect, and you hear Llama Sue explaining in

voiceover what Fett wanted in return to train

the clone army, was one unaltered clone for himself.

Which they kind of, it's a little bit of bullshit

because later on, and once again, the expanded

universe, Boba Fett has a clone degenerative

disease. So he's not technically unaltered. Well,

I guess because he was cloned via the Spartai

cloning cylinders, but I'm talking about stuff

you guys probably don't know about except maybe

Kevin so I'm gonna shut up now. So Steve, what

about you? What's your favorite scene? Dooku

versus Yoda. I love any scene that has Yoda actually

in a lightsaber battle. So what the whole two

scenes he's ever done? There were still awesome

scenes though. You can't deny that Mike. For

me the the biggest problem I have with this episode

it's not really like I kind of already said my

favorite part of it was was the Yoda battle,

but My biggest issue with episode 2 is the goddamn

love story. I hate that Well, but it's a hat

they had I know they had to have it but my main

complaint about it is she has the stupid ear

muff look, but it's like a ribbon tied around

pieces of her hair to make it look like the layout

ear muffs. It was so fucking lame. Well, you

got to realize that George Lucas has no experience

or no knowledge of how to do a romance or a love

story. Well, that's true too. Well, we've kind

of already glossed over his directorial credits

here, so... He just wanted a piece of ass at

the end of the story. He wanted to fuck the hottest

chick he could. Yes. Uh, so getting into the

cast, um, why don't we just talk about favorite

characters? Uh, Mike, we know one of your favorite

characters is Dooku. Other than Dooku, who is,

do you have another favorite character from episode

two? Django Fett. Despite not having a lot of

screen time, when he's in the scene, you know

he's in the scene. That's what I love. I mean...

Tomorrow Morrison brought I felt a lot to that

role despite not having a lot there He just has

this very big presence and the fact that he gets

killed by fucking mace Windu I thought was just

the shittiest way for him to go out but he takes

out a couple of Jedi before he bites the The

kind of bullet to plus the fact Django was a

legitimately caring father. Yeah, he just happened

to do really bad things I mean, he's a bounty

hunter. He's a mercenary He has no personal stake

in all this. Other than the fact that the Jedi

fucked over his planet years and years ago, he's

got reason to hate their guts. So, I think he's

a tragic character in a lot of ways, and that's

why he's my favorite. And it sucks that Boba

got orphaned by these guys who are supposed to

be negotiating, but I guess he fired first. Nice

little jab there. See what I did there? Yeah,

I see what you did there. But the thing you're

overlooking about mace killing django is just

the sheer way he did it because every like when

i saw that like the first time i saw that scene

i just my jaw was like halfway to china for christ's

sake he just decapitated him Yeah, it's a little

unorthodoxly brutal, but Mace Windu fights with

a very specific lightsaber style, which courts

very close to the dark side, so I'm not surprised

Mace Windu killed him as opposed to just wounding

him. It would have been smarter for him to leave

Jango Fett alive to question him, but Jango wouldn't

have gave up anything anyway. Yeah, yeah. Kevin,

what about you? Django Fett easily I am I will

say that I'm not as annoyed as you guys are with

Anakin in this movie I I liked him better than

I liked Anakin in the first movie He wouldn't

be my favorite character, but I did prefer him

over the young version, but yeah, it's easily

Django Fett and then after that It's it's really

hard after that all the other characters are

just kind of the same So not not any of them

necessarily stood out to me. I like different

versions of Obi -Wan better I like different.

Well, this is the best Padme version. So maybe

I'll say her. Yeah, what about you Steve? Okay

For me like The movie as a whole, I like a lot

of the movie, but as far as favorite characters,

it has to be seeing R2 in action and actually

doing stuff and not just cursing at C -3PO and

beeps. I just found that really refreshing that

they actually did something with R2 and actually

showed him in action, say what you want, dot

about, it's not cool that he flew. I thought

it was because... It's something you didn't expect.

I mean, it's not as jaw -dropping as, you know,

Mace cutting off Jango's head, but I still kind

of got a chuckle and a little bit of a jaw drop

when I saw R2 fly. I'm like, oh, he can fly.

He somehow loses this ability later on. It's

just kind of like I said before, you know, it's

more like the original trilogy where the droids

are the ones creating the comic relief, and if

that's what had to happen and that saved us from

having other stupid characters, then I'm fine

with it. Oh, wow. So Jar Jar goes from a Moronic

character to a general in episode one and in

here he's a senator now. Oh my god Yeah, I didn't

know that through the movie, but I I mean Padme

just said he's the official representative of

Naboo. She didn't call him a senator. No, she

did not call him a senator. Shut up. You know

what I meant. Well, George Lucas heard the fans

loud and clear on Josh. He quickly became a background

character as he should have. A large search for

the new Anakin Skywalker was performed across

the United States. Lucas auditioned various actors,

mostly unknown, before casting Christensen. Among

the many established actors who auditioned were

Jonathan Brandis, Ryan Philippi, Colin Hanks,

and Paul Walker. Leonardo DiCaprio also met with

Lucas for the role, but was definitely unavailable

according to DiCaprio's publicist. One of the

things this is actually kind of it kind of ties

into my other website that I do Blizzard thumbs

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I just this toy just reminded me of it There's

one girl you're trying to seduce who wants to

be an actress and they randomly go on a 10 -minute

tangent about Hayden Christensen in Star Wars

attack of the clothes It's really weird. It's

this conversation. You get her naked, and she

starts doing sexy poses for you. It's really

weird. But all the time, he's like, imagine you're

Hayden Christensen, and you're going to be doing

this nurse in the butt with this dildo, and you're

going to be talking to this teddy bear. But don't

forget, it's Hayden Christensen. And they just

throw that in your face. There's a little bit

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Magna Cum Laude has Hayden Christensen mentioned

in it multiple times. Let's talk about the effects

for this one. They greatly improved over the

first film. There was only a few spots that really

bugged me in this one that looked completely

fake. One of them is when they're on the conveyor

belt when Padme and Anakin are on the conveyor

belt things where he gets his hand caught. There's

a couple of sequences in there that look really

fake. But other than that, like you said, it

did a much better job than the first one as far

as looking real. That was really about one of

the only scenes that I was like, ah, that's kind

of cheesy. But other than that, I believe most

of the digital stuff, and like we talked about

before, it's a much better version of Yoda. Oh,

yeah. What about you, Mike? You're all about

special effects. I was really happy with the

way they gave the scale and the scope of everything.

Everything seemed grander. I mean, seeing the

clones attack, Geonosis was amazing. Seeing all

the Jedi fight on Geonosis was cool. Camino as

a completely digital environment. I thought was

fantastic Yeah, um I was just really happy overall

also seeing Coruscant in a different light to

seeing the the underside of it I mean they could

they could have very well of the sports bar Yeah,

it could have been now Hutta at the same time,

and it looked just cool I was really happy with

the way everything looked in this movie plus.

I guess we're talking special effects. We can

talk props favorite prop in this movie is Count

Dooku's curved lightsaber, which you would see

later on in the Clone Wars mini -series, kind

of, when you look at Asajj Ventress' lightsaber.

It kind of has the same curved design mixed with

Darth Maul's double -bladed saber. But yeah,

overall I thought it was neat, plus seeing a

new version of the Mandalorian armor with like

Jango Fett in the dual pistols was very cool.

I'm trying to think of what else here was neat.

Seeing Count Dooku's solar ship I thought was

kind of cool another thing was the Republic gunships

because they're actually modeled after Vietnam

-era Helicopters, and if you listen to the sound

mix on it. You can kind of hear that mixed into

the engine I love just the sound the gunships

make so other than that pretty badass and Fantastic

stuff from this thing overall. Yes very much

so All right Steve, do you have any thoughts

on the effects? Only that you can tell that it

looks more realistic than the first movie. It

doesn't look as cartoony as the first film. I

don't know, it's more crisp, you could say. They

did a better job blending the digital in with

the real. Yeah, but they do an even better job

in the third film. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. As far

as the music goes, again, obviously, John Williams.

The the soundtrack recreates the Imperial March

from episode 5 Actually, this is It's not really

a surprise to me, but the CD originally shipped

with a bonus PC screensaver Four different soundtrack

covers each sold separately were distributed

at the time one featuring Yoda another featuring

Anakin and Padme a Third featuring Django and

the fourth featuring the film's final poster

art Mike. Do you have the third disc? I don't

know whether I do and I got no I don't think

so I got this as a Christmas gift from a girlfriend

I don't think I got that one Let's see we're

gonna go from here um Kevin you got any trivia

for this one Yeah, a few more than in the first

one in the speeder chase at the very beginning

if you look really hard It's kind of hard to

see but you can see an x -wing being chased by

three TIE fighters The actual actor Anthony Daniels

who plays C -3PO is in the sports bar without

any costume on basically without the C -3PO get

up obviously you can see him as a person. In

the Hall of Records the bus that are going down

the side of the room are all George Lucas and

all the producers and the people behind the scenes.

I love the scene when Django goes back into his

vehicle where he hits his head. And they say

they and George Lucas actually did that on purpose

because he says it's then a trait that the clones

inherit and that's why the stormtrooper hits

his head in the original trilogy So I guess that

was a way of covering up one of the bloopers

from the original trilogy the the guy in charge

of the The effects there says that the shadow

at the beginning when it's cast from Anakin against

the the sand there That it was not intended to

look like Darth Vader even though most people

thought it was. And other than that, there's

just a couple cut scenes as far as Jango was

supposed to be in the Geonosis scene standing

next to Count Dooku, but they didn't want that

connection being made that early in the film.

They left out a scene of when Anakin goes to

look after, to try to find his mom. He originally

came across the search party, but they were all

bodies that had been left for dead after they

were killed by the San people. So they took that

out. And the only other thing is that every single

clone in any of these movies is all digital.

They never made an actual clone trooper suit

to have in any of the films. However, though,

master replicas later on, when they started doing

some of the props, would actually take those

digital scans and actually make them into fiberglass

helmets, which are highly collectible. If you

can get them, fucking get them, because they're

amazing. The fact that all those clones were

digital though. I never knew that and they did

a fantastic job of making those look real Oh,

yeah, for sure. I'm trying to think there was

something else I was gonna mention here, but

I can't remember what it was so Finally, I finally

remembered the name of the centipede things.

They were called cohoons Centipede things at

the beginning the the centipede bots that we're

gonna go after a pad Oh, okay. They're gonna

eat her. Yeah cohoons I remembered it. Alrighty

then. As far as at the box office, Attack of

the Clones was screened out of competition at

the 2002 Cannes Film Festival before getting

a worldwide theatrical release on May 16, 2002.

Let's see, reception. Attack of the Clones received

generally mixed to positive reviews on the Rotten

Tomatoes review site. The film received 66 %

favorable rating. Their general admiration for

the action sequences and special effects. Roger

Evert who has praised all of the other Star Wars

films awarded this edition only two out of four

stars describing it the first half is too dialogue

heavy and slow -paced while Deriding the romantic

sentiments of Anakin and Padme is cliched. Well,

yeah, that's probably the only time anyone's

gonna ever hear me agree with him. Yeah I hate

the romance story in this I just do it's not

only because it was badly done. It's not that

it was bad that they had one It was just yeah,

it was just poorly handled um Actually, I thought

there's an interesting thing about the box office

So this is the only one of all six Star Wars

films that did not become the top -grossing US

film of that year, and it's also the lowest performing

Star Wars film in North American box office But

I did not realize that all other five led the

box office for that year in the U .S. This one

did come against some pretty heavy competition

with Spider -Man, Lord of the Rings, Two Towers,

and Harry Potter, Chamber of Secrets, though,

so it's not a surprise. Very true. But all things

considered, those are all vastly superior films

compared to this, though. Yeah. Which is unfortunate.

But I mean usually it doesn't matter because

the Star Wars fandom makes the Star Wars movie

the top box office film of the year. Right. But

that one could not compete with those movies

and the fact that it was not necessarily the

best Star Wars movie. Right. As far as the iGen

replacement crew, Steve, what would you rate

episode two? I would probably say I would give

this one a three. I'm with Steve. I'm with Steve.

I'll give this one a three. I gave the last one

a two this one gets a three Yeah, same here.

Yeah, I would have to agree It's a solid three

So as we've said before it is on DVD It was re

-released in the prequel trilogy box set on November

4th 2008 and of course, you know The all six

films are scheduled for Blu -ray release in 2011.

Apparently there's an adaptation to it, the novel.

Two novels based on the movie were published,

an Italian junior novel by Scholastic, and a

novelization written by R .A.'s Salvatore, which

includes some unique scenes. A four -issue comic

book adaptation was written by Henry Gilroy and

published by Dark Horse Comics like Mike said

before. There is a couple deleted scenes I want

to bring up from the DVD just because unlike

the episode one ones They actually do have some

decent deleted scenes That go back. There's a

great scene if you have the DVD set for episode

two, the box set, go to the episode two deleted

scenes, watch the Padme addresses the Senate.

I thought that was a great scene. It was a great

speech by her that kind of gives a little bit

better of a intro into that whole storyline.

And I think it was awesome that they went to

Padme's parents' house. Padme and Anakin, I know

you don't like the love story, but this was actually

one of the better scenes in that whole romance.

And they cut it out. But these two, the scenes

with Padme and the deleted scenes are actually

very much worth a watch. Very cool. And up next

you are going to hear the episode 3 trailer.

The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many

abilities some consider to be unnatural. Is it

possible to learn this power? Not from a Jedi.

The Council wants you to report on all the Chancellor's

dealings. That's treason. We are at war, Anakin.

Very dangerous putting them together. I don't

think the boy can handle it. I don't trust him.

I need your help, son. I'm appointing you to

be my personal representative on the Jedi Council.

You're on this council, but we do not grant you

the rank of Master. What? Obi -Wan and the council

don't trust me. Learn to know the dark side of

the Force and you will achieve a power greater

than any Jedi. You're under arrest, Chancellor.

Are you threatening me, Master Jedi? Every single

Jedi is now an enemy of the Republic. Do what

must be done. Do not hesitate. Show no mercy.

Who could have done this? Twisted by the dark

side, young Skywalker has become a slave. I feel

so helpless. You were the chosen one! special

here on MWIRE we have episode 3 revenge of the

Sith which is a 2005 American space opera film

written and directed by George Lucas it is the

sixth and final film released in the Star Wars

saga and the third in the overall internal chronology

of the series I so missed out on this in theaters

I missed out on episode 2 and 3 in theaters I

just I don't know Arby's Shut up Mike Sorry shut

up. I'm good now good Yeah, uh, so I'm assuming

everybody but me has seen this in theaters. Oh

Boy, I was there at fucking 8 a .m. And there

was already 25 people ahead of me Yeah costume

that's better than 2500 people ahead of you This

is the movie that got me back in the Star Wars

hardcore collecting I have every exclusive that

was released via Target or Toys R Us. I've got

every vehicle. I even have stuff from C3. I spent

$500 on a Obi -Wan Kenobi lightsaber, which I

have in my house, which is tremendously cool.

I have all the mini sabers from this movie. I

actually used to work with the company Master

Replicas through another site that I was doing,

fx -sabers .com, which is fantastic and still

around. Um, this is the movie that made me love

Star Wars again. Totally. This is what brought

me way back into it. So this movie is probably,

I'd argue it's probably my favorite Star Wars

movie, then probably Empire. I love this movie

to death. I mean, I've read all the books, I've

played all the games, I've talked to some of

the voice cast, so this movie's uh, fucking harsh.

So uh, Kevin, pick it up. Yeah, I mean, this

one, this to me, you know, you had going through

this whole prequel trilogy, I was stoked as hell

for the first episode because it was going to

be the first time I was going to see a new one

in the theater, like I said before. Then I went

out disappointed. So the second one I came in

like, oh, I don't know how excited I should be.

I don't know how good this is going to be. I

left the theater after the second one excited.

And I basically had the same, if not more, you

know, the same amount of excitement I had for

number one in a different way for number two,

because now I was like. There's no possible way

you're gonna have episode 3 without it being

fucking dark as hell. Yeah. And there was no

way they could kid this up. There was no way

they could make this funny. This was some serious

shit and there was no way in my mind that they

could screw this up. So I was I was very excited

for episode 3 and I remember camping out I like

I said I was working at target when we had some

of those exclusives I remember the line going

out the door and me pocketing a bunch before

the store even opened but uh, yeah Kevin do you

remember how nuts people were for the target

exclusive clone? We handed the tickets out I

don't know if they do this at every target, but

we had like little tickets that you to hand it

out like cards That you had to hand out to the

people that were waiting outside the door And

that was the only way that you would then get

the figure. And I actually have all the tickets

now because they had to hand them to us. I was

the one collecting the tickets. So I actually

have the entire stack of tickets. But yeah, people

were crazy. I had people calling me up that knew

me that were trying to like use my inside source,

I guess, to try to get one. And I was like, you

know what, you got to show up at the door. I

have my two, but I can't get any more for anybody

else. It was retarded. I also remember when they

had the lava reflection, Anakin and Obi -Wan,

how little those. And then there was the Lava

Reflection Vader which was on clearance for like

eight months afterwards There was quite a few

exclusives done though in that time period Yeah,

like one of the worst was good. I I had to bust

my ass to get the Star Wars the Star Wars shop

Exclusives like getting the Shadow Trooper plus.

I'm an army builder So I had to get one to put

in package one to open one to play with and one

the mod so I spent a retarded amount of money

in fact I Used to rip off stores and not mean

stealing well stealing in a sense. I would do

the price match trick Nice take the tag off and

put it on something else. No act like the indignant

fan and go to the customer service Do you realize

this is $30 cheaper over at such -and -such?

Hmm. Well, there's ten people in lines here.

We don't have time to call over Well, I have

time to walk over there. Oh Okay, so Yeah, I

got the clone, uh, Arkfighter, which retailed

for 60 bucks. Got it for 20. Um, and all these

other things. It was ridiculous. I'm a horrible

person, but, uh, I'm okay with that. Well, price

matching is, is not bad. It's when you - Outright

lying is bad. Yeah, it's when you take a sticker

from one thing and put it on another thing, Steve.

When you're a collector, you have to find ways

to make it in your budget. Yeah, including getting

free movie tickets. Never mind What about you

Steve? I Can't remember one way or the other

if I saw this in theater I Do know that I saw

it around I think I think I saw this about three

days after it came out because I didn't want

to do with all the bullshit of trying to into

the theater and usually if you wait until after

it's not as busy so I don't know I saw it I liked

it this by far I would have to say is my favorite

of the prequels and I would have to almost say

that this is probably better than the other three

as well, just because it's the high point. Like

the most tension, the most graphically insane,

the best battle between the ultimate good of

Yoda and the ultimate evil of Palpatine. Just

the whole overall dynamic, I'd have to say, is

much better. And plus, the other thing is, I'm

sure we'll get into this in a little bit, but

we see how Anakin became Darth Vader. I mean,

it was always hinted at in New Hope and Empire

and in Return, but, you know, we actually get

to see it. Yeah. However, that scene was kind

of lame when Darth Vader decided to talk. No!

That's the only part of the movie where I laughed

out loud at the theater. And everybody looked

at me like I was fucking crazy. You mean when

he's screaming no about Padme? Yeah, I just burst

out laughing. And he's Darth Vader going, no.

It's like, shut your face. It's kind of like

that line from A League of Their Own. There's

no crying in baseball. Darth Vader doesn't pussify.

He does if he's Anakin and he's a teenager. See,

that's the other thing we have to realize that

Anakin was just put into this suit. He's just

a boy. It's not. Oh god. Um, it's not, uh...

It's not Darth Vader fully yet. It's not like

he's been in the suit for like two years. You

know what I mean? He's just going into it. Right.

He's got a catheter is what you're saying. I

shouldn't have told you fuckers about that bad

day. What the fuck is wrong with you assholes?

Arby's clearly. Fuck you. R2D2. Anyways, Kevin,

why don't you summarize episode three? I'll try,

I'll try. Basically, we start off with this massive

space battle going on, which is pretty much the

most epic space battle that we've seen in all

six movies, which leads us to Anakin and Obi

-Wan going after the captured Supreme Chancellor

Palpatine, who's in his little energy handcuffs

and whatnot, which leads to a battle with Count

Dooku. Anakin basically... This is his head off

destroy a scissors his head off and then they

have to escape from the the crashing spacecraft

we have obviously underlying themes of the the

Chancellor trying to Slay Anakin over we have

the underlying themes of Anakin and Padme's relationship

continuing until obviously she's gonna be pregnant

but anyways what happens after the death of Count

Dooku is that Obi -Wan goes on a mission to try

to find General Grievous and take him out Which

obviously he's successful eventually in? shooting

him in the stomach and Meanwhile skipping ahead

a lot Anakin is swayed by Palpatine to cross

over he goes on a murdering rampage of kids and

Then we have the whole order 66 happening leading

us to the last hour of the movie which is the

best Star Wars hour in history so far with the

Jedi being taken out one at a time and then we

have the the final scene which is split between

Yoda and Palpatine fighting and Obi -Wan and

Anakin fighting um... eventually obviously yoda

loses his battle with the senator or the chancellor

and then com goes to dagobah to be a hermit and

obviously we want a successful and what he thinks

is killing anakin and our last little scene is

obviously the two twins being split up so that

leaves us right into episode four and then darth

vader being created as well right the thing about

I've actually watched episode three twice before

we recorded this. I watched it with the commentary

and without the commentary. Lucas actually says

in the commentary, the two scenes where Padme

is giving birth and Vader is being born, they

were initially two separate scenes. They were

not intermingled like they are now, as we know

them in the film. And I am so glad that he intermingled

them and not made them two separate scenes. Yeah,

that was a good choice. Yes birth of multiple

characters at the same time Favorite characters

whose favorite character any and these motherfucking

Anakin man I love him in this movie despite being

called mannequin Skywalker when he starts cutting

down kids and shit gets real It's awesome, especially

the last little bit where you see Anakin fighting

Obi -Wan. There's genuine hatred in his eyes.

He's like, you are going to die tonight. No nut

for another 20 years. Yeah, it's so hard for

me, though. This is the best version of so many

characters. In my opinion, this is the best Obi

-Wan we've had, because it's the most similar

that he looks to Anakin, plus he has just some

kick -ass lines. It's by far the best Anakin.

It's the best Palpatine, I think, because you

get to see just how twisted he is. It's the best

Yoda, because it's a combination of the kick

-ass Yoda and the hermit Yoda. It's the best

Maze Windu. The only one it's not the best of

is Padme. Yeah, because she's like, oh, Anakin,

I'm pregnant, but don't worry, I'm not showing

yet. I'll be showing in about 30 seconds. Her

pregnancy is so bizarre. God they did cut out

scenes that showed her pregnant earlier, but

she had a two -week pregnancy That's the one

thing we got to talk about about this film. Like

I mentioned earlier powers Why did I just think

of the push -up or the push pop commercial Oh

God don't do that Steve. Ah You know, I talked

to earlier about how the age difference between

the two of them is Now, it's not specifically

said, as far as I know, you guys can correct

me if I'm wrong, it's not specifically said how

much time has passed between episode two and

episode three, right? What's that? I think it's

about two years, I think, in the Clone Wars micro

series. Okay. The thing of it is, is yeah, she

has like a 30 second pregnancy and then I get

to drop the babies. And it's like... Holy crap,

there's no way amongst all the events that happen

in this film, from the time that she tells Anakin

she's pregnant, there's no freaking way nine

months has passed. It just doesn't seem right.

She's saying, drop it like it's hot and babies

popped out. That's all there was to it. Oh, God.

Yeah, but I think she's probably one of my least

favorite characters in this movie, but I'm with

Mike. I absolutely freaking love Anakin in this

movie. And Anakin and Hayden Christensen and

Ewan McGregor were absolutely awesome together.

I love all the homages they put into this movie

because, oh, is it when Obi -Wan confronts Grievous

the first time? He goes, well, hello there. And

it's like Alec did in episode four when he was

talking to R2. Honestly, I know that Obi -Wan

shot Grievous in the stomach, but when he goes

to rip his chestplate open, first thing I thought

was, oh, Grievous is a woman under there. Don't

touch my tit. Wow. That's what she said. There

are no words for this. Oh, but seriously if you

look at that scene and you look at Obi -Wan pulling

his chest open He pulls his privates out and

rapes Anakin. Well, it's not like he fondled

his robo balls. He just pulled open his chest

plate If they were robo balls I guess that's

true. I don't know what species. I think he's

Kalash or whatever. Well, Lucas did say in the

commentary that Grievous is some form of alien

inside a droid body. Right. Which was established

in the Expanded Universe stuff, plus the Clone

Wars micro -series. In fact, the Clone Wars cartoons

that were done by the same dude who did Samurai

Jack actually shows why Grievous coughs. One

of the Hammerhead Jedi crushes General Grievous'

chest, or it's Mace Windu, and that's why Grievous

coughs. I think it's Mace. Yeah. Try to think.

What else was... There's a lot more... prequel

stuff that that that leads up to episode 3 because

technically Grievous and all them have met before

despite in the movie saying I expected you to

be taller pussy fart so There's a lot of really

weird things that conflict here. I find the expanded

universe in episode 3 do not agree well at all

um But that's a different story for a different

day. Yeah, what about you? for me as far as favorite

character It'd probably have to be Yoda just

for the character development as far as action

I like Obi -Wan the best because we actually

see him fighting in the Clone Wars and not just

you know Oh, I'm an old hermit living out amongst

sane people Yeah What about you Mike? What was

the question again sir? Favorite character? Oh,

fucking Anakin, hands down, man. Like I said,

he was badass in this movie, particularly. Obi

-Wan was also tremendously neat. I thought Grievous

was really underdeveloped. He's like, I'm supposed

to be this badass cyborg, though evidently I

have fucking asthma. Count Dooku, I've led the

Separatists yet, I'm gonna get beat by this little

fucking crotch stain in about 30 seconds. I don't

know, there were just a lot of the characters

in this movie, I felt some of them were ridiculous.

I really like Darth Sidious 2, but I don't like

how he comes about in the way, for some reason,

force lightning causes me to turn old. I don't

know why. I don't know, there were just, there

was a lot of goofy moments with certain characters,

but one of the things that kind of surprised

me is how brutal Yoda was, because he cuts off

Commander Gree's fucking head. So it's like,

oh, dead. Actually, there's I think I screen

kept that scene where he was a commander agree

that he jumped on put his lightsaber in his chest

and and just jumped off of him. I don't that

was I thought that was just a. I can't remember.

I know what you're talking about, but I don't

know if that was a named character or not. Yeah,

I screencapped an image and I'll have to show

you guys on Facebook or whatever. It's a little

bit blurred because my stupid DVD thing on my

computer wouldn't focus right. But he basically

jumps onto a droid's, or not a droid, a clone

trooper's chest, puts his lightsaber just through

and through his chest to his back, and then jumps

off him and pulls his lightsaber out. I was like,

oh my god, that's so badass. Yeah, that was where

they're just going into the Jedi temple No, this

was in the other battle. I think it was no no

It was in the right in front of the Jedi temples

when he throws it in the chest. Oh, okay. All

right. Yeah, I Was actually surprised to see

Jimmy Smits in this movie. I Don't have a problem

with him being Bail Organa, but I just I was

very surprised at seeing him in my favorite character.

Yes Okay, I wasn't finished with my thought,

I was going to ask you that after I had finished

my thought. Thank you very much. Asshat. We're

good, we're good. Alright, alright, alright.

You alright over there, Mike? Compose. Please.

Solemn face, solemn face. Who's your least favorite

character Steve? I Like I don't know who's my

least Probably grievous just cuz he was annoying

and he had emphysema and he was wheezing But

I would have to say I like It's kind of a tie

between Yoda and the Emperor Gotcha and I'll

I say the Emperor because he's actually moving

and fucking crazy in this one compared to the

sixth movie where he's just kind of old and he's

just zapping people. So it's kind of nice to

see him actually do something in this one. And

then the fact that he's basically got cyborg

people saying, in the sense of the clones, he's

like, initiate order triple X. And he goes off

and basically sets his whole spiral downward

to crush everyone against him. Right. And Yoda's

kick ass because he just kind of is this wicked

little muppet jumping around. It was pretty cool.

Yoda was pretty cool in this one. And you see

Chewbacca. Yeah, I loved seeing the Wookiees.

That was awesome. Agreed. Well because they were

supposed to be in episode 6, but instead we got

fucking killer teddy bears Well Leave the Ewoks

alone Mike. It wouldn't have looked cool if they

did the Wookiees in ep in ep 6 anyway So I'm

glad they would tell they could do it right.

Yeah, cuz their planet looks pretty cool. Yeah

Yeah, we didn't we see a lot of it, but it looked

kind of cool in their vehicles were cool I'm

trying to think of something else actually one

of the funniest things about this and I just

posted this link in the chat One of the funniest

things about episode 3 and I just want to bring

this up now just to get it all out of the way

is episode 3 translated into a foreign language

is About the funniest thing you will ever see

there now this I think the title in Chinese Revenge

of the Sith translates to backstroke of the West

And, uh, there is one scene where you see General

Grievous, he's hovering over Anakin and Obi -Wan,

he's like, I shall add your lightsabers to my

collection, Jedi scum. Do you know what he says

in the Chinese version? Smelly boy. It gets better

when R2 is in the landing bay and he tells R2,

stay here, hack into the droid controller system.

Obi -Wan says, R2, do you is fucking? I feel

like that clip, it's funny, it's got something

with them inside of a machine and it says, he

is in my behind. One of the things that I want

to point out about this film is, obviously, like

Kevin said, there's no way you could have kitted

this up. There's nothing that you could have

done, because it has to be such a dark film,

because, like I said before, we're seeing the

evolution of Anakin into Vader. So, one of the

comedy bits that I absolutely love is everything

with R2. Where they're going to rescue Palpatine.

Because it's like are to get down here. We'll

be down here in a minute. Yeah I like when he

flies down the the the tilted ship and then lands

in the pile of droids I like when he said the

droids on fire with his jets. That was awesome.

Now. That's a legitimately cool reason for him

to fly Setting things on fire Shitting oil on

people and setting them on fire. It's good It

made sense. It's a good tactical position. I

don't know why R2 wouldn't build the fucking

blaster into himself, but hey, smelly boy. There's

always the fucking Family Guy knockoff for that.

Don't bring Family Guy into this, because I'll

kill you. God, those fucking episodes suck. That's

a detriment to Star Wars, I think. I just saw

the preview for the new one. It's a trap. It

looks mildly funny. I don't know the first the

both of them so far suck pretty harsh But I don't

know family guys for people with mental deficiencies

once again all hate mail can be sent to Blanchard

I Didn't say that you said it. It's Mike it this

week in geek .net. That's right so Apparently,

instead of the E .T.'s getting cameos, this time

around, the entire Lucas family, or well at least

Lucas himself and his three children get cameos.

Yep, and all the behind, like the producers and

all those people were all in the opera scene.

And then George's son gets one when the young

Jedi comes out. That was actually tremendously

cool because they killed him. Which was kind

of awesome. I was actually really surprised.

They actually played up the whole, oh, by the

way, kill all the younglings. That really surprised

me how dark this movie went. Plus, as a huge

nerd here, the clone troopers behind Vader are

the 501st, which is Vader's personal legion known

as Vader's Fist. That's a tremendously cool thing,

and it's such a nod to the fan community, but

there's more of this crap, so keep going. Getting

into some of the behind -the -scenes stuff and

the good, the bad, and the ugly here. Really,

I don't find anything wrong with this film whatsoever.

The only real note I took was, at the very end,

I managed to tie in Star Wars to Men in Black.

Welcome to the last helmet you'll ever wear.

Silence, I hear crickets. Oh, come on! I actually

do hear crickets now. Yeah, that's Steve's lame

attempt at Chewbacca. Wow. That was unnecessarily

mean. The ugliest thing I saw in this film was

Padme out on the balcony on that one scene. When

she's out on the one balcony of her apartment

with Anakin. She's even he's like you're so beautiful

in all this that was by far the ugliest she looked

in all three movies Yeah, she looks vaguely hideous

her hair was like sticking in 18 ,000 directions

Like I don't know if that's the effect that comes

when you take your cinnamon bun earmuffs off

if that's what you have to do to your hair after

that but She's not conditioning man. She was

so ugly in that scene and she and that between

her and Anakin That was the worst dialogue moment

of the entire movie So that's my only complaint

for episode 3, I think. It proves Anakin is a

fucking horny dog. He's like, I only love you

because you're so beautiful. Even when you're

not. I mean, does that not just scream, hey,

I'm going to get in your pants by the end of

the night? I think Anakin was actually on drugs

at that point, which is also one of the reasons

why it's so easy for the emperor to turn him

over. He's seeing things. He's all fucked up.

His head's just messed up at that point. So he

doesn't know who's beautiful. Yes. Before I let

Kevin talk about the deleted scenes, because

he actually watched them, I just kind of skimmed

through them. I actually saw them earlier, too.

Right. I find it very interesting that Lucas

wrote an early draft of the script in which a

10 -year -old Han Solo appeared in Kashyyyk.

Nice. I didn't know that. I think that would

have been jumping the shark It probably would

have been I mean having Chewie and the Wookiees

is is okay because it sets up the fact that Yoda

knows all these people, you know what I mean,

but Yeah, that probably would have been jumping

the shark big time Yeah, but the deleted scenes

on this disc are on this movie are the best out

of the prequels Right. Easily. Well, because

they actually give something actually with a

little bit of content. I mean, they show you

the death of Shaak Ti. That was crazy. It's just

really cool. I really wish they'd left that in

the movie, but... And I love the showing of Mon

Mothman, how the rebellion kind of started. And

Mon Mothman's kind of hot, I'm just saying. I

totally banger. I thought that was something

that they could have put in the whole scene with

Yego. Yoda going to Dagobah was kind of a cool

little thing to show. Unnecessary though, I can

see why they cut it. I can see why they cut that

one. I think they should have at least put in

one of, not necessarily all of the Padme scenes

in that storyline, but at least one of them that

showed Bale, Padme, Mon Mothma and that group.

At least one of them. Just so we get a sense

of that happening in the background Well plus

the fact if they'd included the scenes where

you see them trying to form the rubble alliance

you would have seen Padme is less of a fucking

idiot Right as opposed to hey Anakin guess what

you know it's just it's terrible right But there's

even more stuff cut because there was like entire

storyboard sequences. We'd see more Jedi die

die and so I don't know I think There's probably

gonna be new stuff included in the uber editions,

which I think what I do what next year on blu

-ray. Yeah So I'm curious to see what was allegedly

left on the cutting room floor Coming to a 3d

near you Yeah, although I will say this is the

movie I'm looking the most forward to in 3d.

Can you imagine the fucking Mustafar sequence

in 3d? That's gonna be fucking badass. Yeah,

that's gonna be Oh, I did remember one other

moment that I kind of had a problem with and

that is when Mace Windu shows up to arrest Palpatine

and the two supposed Jedi's get killed like bitches.

Oh boy, I'm glad you brought that up. Like, what

are you kidding me? Master Jedi, I pointed my

lightsaber at you. You just happened to be in

the way. Yeah. For people who sit on the Jedi

Council, and these guys have huge backstories,

once again, in the Expanded Universe, these guys

would have taken motherfucking him apart at the

seams. Yeah, that was just, there was, what was

there, three or four Jedi in that scene and one

- There was five. Five. Yeah, there was - You

gotta be freaking kidding me. Yeah, I'm sorry,

I mean - That was as weak, that was as weak as

General Grievous's two arms coming off in one

second of that battle. And why the hell didn't

they bring a battalion, like, at least a couple

clones with them? Okay, while the lightsabers

didn't work, shoot the motherfucker! I'm just

saying, I mean, there's so much wrong with that

scene. And then Anakin is like, oh, well, um,

I guess I'm gonna turn to the dark side now,

so I'm gonna bend to your will. Hey, party on.

It all happened so quickly. I mean, that's another

thing to do with this movie. Anakin's fall to

the dark side. It seems a little too convenient.

Hey, I can save your wife. Really? Yeah. Want

to help me kill innocent people? Sure. Well,

and I think that there was another deleted scene

that would have helped on that a little bit.

There was a scene, one of those Padme scenes

when she actually comes before Palpatine to try

to kind of... you know she has this like petition

with all the signatures and or whatever about

you know trying to get something past that hill

return power center center and uh... but anakin

standing off to the side you can kind of see

the tension there and and it i thought it helped

a little with his turning but then they cut that

so it's like i i found a lot of times uh... what

lucas would do is he would have these massive

fight scenes and these chasing that would take

up a lot of time like just look at like a podracing

scene or look at like some of these different

fighting scenes that are very long and in order

to make these long fight and chase scenes he

would cut out key character development and dialogue

parts because he's a big fan of oh we should

be able to tell the story just visually well

sometimes you need a little bit of freaking dialogue

Yeah, you need a little bit of context, because

the scene where all the Jedi die, where it shows

them on different planets as Order 66 is being

executed, you could have made that so much more

dramatic, because one thing that's explained

in the Expanded Universe, when we go on Felucia

seeing Ayla Secula get shot on the big fungal

planet, the clones shot her in a specific way,

so she wouldn't suffer. They specifically did

that. It's like we like her we got our duty to

the Republic. So let's put her down humanely

Whereas on my Gito with Chiari Mundy those guys

fucking hated him They made sure it was brutal,

right? So there could have been a lot more they're

given context to That's true Let's see here do

we have anything else on the deleted scenes guys

Those are yeah, I think I touched on all the

deleted scenes pretty well They're the by far

the best ones to watch if you haven't watched

the deleted scenes You should watch them just

to see Shakti that killed yes Funniest thing

about Revenge of the Sith actually the first

time I saw this was through the leaked work print

I Didn't get a chance to see that actually any

other Copy of the movie leaked into a peer -to

-peer file sharing networks just hours after

opening in theaters. The movie was a time -stamped

work print suggesting it may have come from within

the industry rather than from someone who videotaped

an advanced screening. Eight people were later

charged with copyright infringement and distributing

material illegally. I don't know if it was the

actual leaked work print I saw. I saw something

from a person -to -person sharing or peer -to

-peer sharing thing. I'm so wrong. And whatever.

As far as... Other parts? What? Anybody have

a favorite part in this one? Mustafar battle,

battle of the heroes. That's it, that's it. I

was glad you said that because if anyone said

any other part they're retarded. That's the best

dialogue in the entire Star Wars franchise between,

in my opinion, between Obi -Wan and Anakin. Best

lines ever, best way, the best sequence, it's

just epic. Right. I will agree the Obi -Wan Anakin

battle was probably one of the best scenes of

the film. I actually really like the helmet going

down and you see his first breath under the helmet.

I like that a lot. Again, the whole thing with

Anakin and Padme just... Yeah, it wasn't as bad

in this one as it was in the other one, but there

was still some pretty bad scenes with it But

like I said, that's just because Lucas doesn't

know how to do romance one of the things that

always bugged me about this movie is the droid

on Paulus Massa that the medical droid is like

she's was she's lost the will to live you just

had two fucking kids Build the fucking Republic

fix your husband. Oh, no, I'm a pussy time to

die Well, she couldn't fix your husband because

he was on fucking fire Un -fucking -fire! He

used the Force to suck her life away and put

himself into Vader. He used the Force to suck

something out of her. That's what she said. Oh,

man, imagine the things you could do. You could...never

mind. Anyway, um... Only you would think of that,

Dodd. Dark Force, you will see. Oh, believe me,

if I had Force powers, horrible things would

happen. But the thing... That's what bugged me

about though, because Padme's supposed to be

a mother. And here's big plot hole. How can Leia

remember her mother if she just like, oh hey

mom, guess what? Oh, time to die. That is a good

point. The only thing that I'll say about that

is... Nice vag, time to die. Sorry. No, I was

gonna fucking go, you moron. People on fucking

Facebook, assholes. Anyways. Fly, Laker. Do you

win? Shut up. Shut up, Yoda. The thing about

Leia and Padme is that the droid that was delivering

the babies out of Padme showed them to her for

a brief moment. So... Maybe we could argue, that's

a nitpick. Maybe the force remembered her. Maybe,

and that's the all coming cop out, I guess. Another

good thing about that last battle scene is that

Obi -Wan picks up Anakin's lightsaber and then

it ties into him having it to give to Luke later.

I kind of thought that was a nice little touch.

Although it's not the same lightsaber because

he does slightly rebuild. If you look at Anakin's

F3 saber 2 is one he has in F4 There are some

significant changes to it more specifically on

the strip the activator switch and some things

on the side there But I'm a huge nerd and know

that Obi -Wan may have restored it back to his

Jedi version That's another good reason, too.

I just remember another thing, another moment.

I love when Yoda walks in and throws those two

Imperial guards to the floor. Yeah, that was

pretty awesome. He's like, yep, die. That was

pretty fucking cool. That was one of the best

Yoda moments. I think one of the best Yoda moments

was when he was actually fighting the Emperor

with the lightning going between their hands.

I thought that was fairly cool. That was very

Dragon Ball Z -ish. Yeah, nine thousand um, but

Overall though there were some really good fight

scenes and that's the only one I thought that

really dragged on and almost felt unnecessary

is the chase scene between General Grievous is

by my toy at target for 1999 creature and The

Boga I hated that part Hated hated that part,

but I did like commander Cody. I thought he was

a nice addition to the series Despite, you know,

well gotta shoot you in the back now, buddy time.

I like them, too Yeah, he was cool. I'm trying

to think of what else I can really mention about

this. Plus, they show that the clones have more

personality, like there's Cody, there's Oddball,

there's Commander Gree. Even the target clone

had a name because he was the guy that killed

Stas Ali on the speeder bike, stuff like that.

And they also show some emerging Imperial tech

because the clone turbo tank would eventually

turn into the Juggernaut. The ATPT would evolve

into the Scout Walker. Right. And you just, you

see the transition from the technology of the

old movies into the new ones, like you can see

how things work. The Death Star and everything.

What did you guys think of the Death Star and

Grand Moff Tarkin? Tarkin looked like a fucking

zombie. I completely missed Tarkin, but I saw

the Death Star and we kind of glossed over that

in episode, the episode two discussion that,

you know, the whole point of, of Dooku trying

to escape was to save... the plans of the Death

Star and then of course we see it again here.

It's a nice nod. Yeah. I don't know, Grand Moff

Tarkin looks a little weird. I mean, I know he's

supposed to be a younger version. I guess the

only thing is is that, you know, the Death Star

plans. How much time is it supposed to be like

20 years between this and a little less than

20 years between episode three and episode four?

Which means in theory they're building the second

Death Star about six months after they finish

this one Yeah, I mean it took them a long ass

time to build this one And the fact that nobody

found out about it. Yeah fucking right I'm just

saying and they supposedly built the the second

Death Star and they built part or they had parts

of it built in this Installation called the ma

which is near Kessel and all this other shit

I don't know, I find episode 3 creates so many

problems with the new movies in some ways, because

some of it conflicts with established canon,

conflicts with stuff in the expanded universe,

and then you get games which build up upon this,

such as The Force Unleashed, and then it gets

even more convoluted with The Force Unleashed

2. It's just everything post episode 3 leading

into episode 4. It's really bad territory to

start walking. Yeah. Because you can screw up

so many things. Oh, yeah. This is the only Star

Wars film to receive a PG -13 rating because

of the sci -fi violence and some intense images,

namely for the scene in which Darth Vader is

set aflame by lava. I'm sure it had nothing to

do with the kids dying. Well, it doesn't say

that here, but yeah, I dunno. Again, soundtrack

stuff just amazing. Sure, probably some of the

most memorable themes of the prequel trilogy

namely battle of the heroes is a Fantastic bit

of music in this overall Even just hearing Vader's

theme is another cool piece of kind of music

from this as well I'm actually just looking at

my ep3 soundtrack right now trying to give you

some other stuff here Another one is Palpatine's

teachings, which I think is either in the office

scene or when when they're at the weird opera

house thing. Another neat thing about this movie,

kind of continuing on with sound, is this is

the best the sound design I think has ever been

in the series. Just listen to everything that's

kind of going on around you and you'll be really

impressed. Yeah, everything was the best. I mean,

all the visual things were the best that it's

been in all six movies. You know, all the digital...

Compared to the the real life characters the

best blending that they had out of all six the

sounds the best out of all six It's just it's

hard to beat Mike fell asleep. No, I didn't fall

asleep Just checking But yeah, it's just the

sound is that's one of the things I noticed the

most about this film in particular the sound

design with the effects and the music The effects

didn't really overpower the music, but they're

still there in full volume. It's just amazing.

Kevin, do you have any trivia for this one? Just

one. At the very opening scene when they have

the massive space battle and they have the one

Star Destroyer type ship there. They're basically

shooting all kinds of crap at it. There is an

actual kitchen sink thrown at it. Wow. And and

one thing a lot of people don't notice is actually

that space battle quote -unquote Actually only

happens in the upper atmosphere because some

people like say there's no smoke in space That's

because they're not technically in space. They're

suborbital. So smoke and fire still work the

thing about before you go on Mike the thing about

that was Lucas said in the commentary that he

wanted to show many different types of Coruscant

so That's why technically that battle isn't in

space it is in the upper atmosphere because he

wanted it to look like a completely different

space battle or Battle in the air, whatever the

hell you want to call it Yes I don't know. I

guess one of the things I did like about this

movie and this will go to visual effects and

props is I, once again, as I mentioned in the

beginning of the show, I have a very expensive

replica lightsaber from this. And if you look

at it compared to the episode four saber, which

Obi -Wan will eventually use, it's really cool

how you can see how parts have degraded, parts

have changed. Like, something that's referred

to in the fandom as the pineapple. Obi -Wan saber

which is the part just above the activator switch

leading up to the emitter shroud is this weird

porous material which it has he taken from I

think like a hand grenade or something like that

and you see just how the prop has evolved like

Obi -Wan saber in f4 Is the junkiest thing you

can imagine mind you I think it's the most badass

looking outside of his episode one saber But

it's really neat just to see how that's evolved

and also seeing how the clone troopers armor

has evolved from the t -visor into the more streamlined

kind of clone Stormtrooper look to you see how

the technology has also moved on like I mentioned

earlier with the like ATP teas and stuff like

that You see just a lot of how the universe is

going to change, which I think is something to

be credited to the production team. They started

to realize, hey, everything can't be shiny in

the future. Maybe we should tone it down. Also,

look at the stuff they have for the Wookiees.

There actually was a huge, like, 18 or something

part web documentary, which is included on the

Revenge of the Sith 2 -disc set, where they go

into that and they explain how the weapons were

designed to look organic and stuff like that,

so that's really neat. I don't know, there was

just a lot of neat things done with this movie

in terms of production. There's even a book out,

I think it comes from DK Publishing, I'm not

100 % sure, it's very expensive, but it's called

Dressing the Galaxy. They give you fabric samples

of each of the costumes in this movie. And that's

tremendously cool just to feel what Padme's dress

was made of, to hear what Palpatine's cloak was

made out of, stuff like that too. And one of

the huge things about this movie, I guess to

kind of continue on along this thread, and I

know Kevin, I want you to jump in on this, the

marketing and the promotion for this thing is

huge, as we talked about the Target exclusives

for this. This movie also came out during a celebration

year, which is, known as Civ, or sorry, Celebration,

I think it was, what, was it five for this one,

Kevin, or three? C3, three. Yeah, because they

had the C3 Vader, which would talk and say lunch

from the movie. So there were so many websites

selling crap like this. Yeah, this is where we

had the lava figures, obviously. Yeah, like there

were just so many figures coming out of nowhere.

I mean, there's even a fucking... Christmas Vader

I remember vaguely There are also shit tons of

video games. There was the f3 video game across

multiple platforms There was Star Wars Republic

Commando, which is a direct tie -in to this game

where you see Grievous escape to Kashyyyk and

you fight the Magna Guards. It's Star Wars Battlefront

2 developed by Pandemic Studios, which was unfortunately

no longer around. It was told the story of the

501st leading all the way up from Geonosis to

here. Or sorry, leading up to the Battle of Hoth,

where the last clones were dying off. Um, yeah,

there's this was a marketing juggernaut. I remember

slurpee cups. In fact, I'm drinking it at the

Vader right now, actually. Nice. That sounds

so kinky and wrong. Oh, give it to me, Anakin.

I want your man juice. Where did you get that

slurpee cup at Arby's? No, no, sadly not. I had

to go to McDonald's first. No, I got these at

7 -Eleven. And RG flew me there. Um, so after

that, um, I think what else I remember there

being not many food Promotions though not as

many there wasn't as many like fast food restaurants

behind this as there was in episode one But the

other there was Burger King Yeah, but the other

merchandise as far as novelty stuff was just

as big if not bigger Yeah, because you had friggin,

you had like pencil cases, toys out the ass,

birthday party supplies. I remember there was

a store in Canada known as Becker's or Max Mart

or something like that. One of the smaller convenience

chains had if you bought a Slurpee cup, you got

a Star Wars poster. which I haven't seen, it's

them crossing the sabers at the Battle of the

Hero with a Jedi logo above them. I haven't seen

that poster too often. And I've been actually

trying to replace it for years. Another thing

that should be mentioned is that Drew Struzan,

who drew the artwork, for all the movies and

all the posters has done another fantastic job

with this one, and they're actually, I think,

I got a book from Dave from Twig called The Art

of Drew Struzan, and I think the episode three

poster's the best the series has ever looked.

Oh yeah? Yeah, I'd have to agree. I'm trying

to think, is there anything else, Kevin, I may

have missed in terms of collecting or exclusives?

Oh my god, there was a Star Wars... Star Wars

weekend at Disneyland, too. Yeah, there was a

Star Wars... I think there was a line of M &M

type things. There was. M &M figures or whatever

that were all the Star Wars ones. There was...

Oh my god, there was just so much stuff. I mean,

I stayed almost strictly to just the action figures,

but... i mean this was a you got to think about

this to them at least the people that are trying

to make the money off of it this could be possibly

their last big hurrah as far as you know one

of these major pictures to go out and they were

trying to capitalize on a big time you know without

you this is the last of the movies you know unless

they were somehow going to be something that

we didn't know about down the line so you know

this is this is their chance to get as much money

for now and then you know obviously they're gonna

have to rely on the fandom to keep buying stuff

later but this was kind of the last push for

the masses really quick before we move on I want

to talk a little bit about the box office and

the awards and nominations and all that stuff

I'm sorry. My hatred of the Harry Potter franchise

is well known, but I'm sorry. There's no way

that this film should have came in second to

fucking Goblet of Fire. That's ridiculous. Mike,

you haven't seen it. You can't even say that,

man. That's ridiculous. No Star Wars film should

come second to fucking Harry Potter. That's a

completely ignorant statement. I'm sorry. You

need to see them to compare them. My problem

with the awards is that this is the only Star

Wars movie that did not get nominated for visual

effects Which is really weird, but then again

when you look at the movies that came out that

year though Did it deserve it? I think maybe

this movie design deserves an award in terms

of sound design It just seems weird because it

was the best digital effects out of all the Star

Wars movies for it not to I'm you're right It

depends on who they were going against and what

the other ones were going against But it it was

the best visual Star Wars for it to be the one

not nominated just seems off But it was going

against Chronicles of Narnia For visual effects.

I can't remember what else it was going off against.

Maybe one of the pirates movies might have been

out that time Yeah, I think it was at world's

end was out at that point. Maybe I think so I

mean it did it was going against some some tough

competition, but that's the one that I would

have thought it would have got was visual effects

and didn't even get nominated, but it did get

Nominated for best makeup and a few other things,

but that was the only, I think that was the only

Academy Award I got nominated for Best Makeup.

Yeah. So as far as the IGN crew, one to four.

Steve, what do you give episode three? Four out

of four. Mike? Definitely four. Kevin? Four and

a half. There's no fucking for easy for yeah

same here there are multiple versions of the

DVD there was a couple of exclusive DVDs at different

stores and of course we have the re -release

in the prequel trilogy box set The novelization

I find very interesting uh... because they use

uh... the novel includes many uh... minor details

for example during the battle of chorus on anakin's

call signs read five which is obviously a reference

to lose call sign but that was kind of cool uh...

Mike, do you have anything to say about the video

game itself or anything? Um, I think the some

of the best games that the Star Wars franchise

has ever produced I think have some of them have

actually come out of F3 like said Star Wars Battlefront

2 is one of the biggest selling Star Wars games

of all time You also got Star Wars Republic Commando.

It's established an entire sub -genre of a Star

Wars military shooter there was also I'm trying

to remember what else in terms of kind of video

games were well it basically F3 has opened up

the door to the entire Clone Wars franchise.

I mean there's Star Wars lightsaber duels which

came out for the Wii last year, Star Wars Force

Unleashed which takes place after episode 3,

Star Wars Force Unleashed 2 which is like I said

like that that whole game is built upon what

this is established invader having a secret apprentice

as well. The Star Wars RTSs I think Empire at

War came out around the same time but I'm not

100 % sure not a very good game if I remember

correctly. I don't know Kevin is there anything

that I'm maybe missing? I don't So I'm not I

can't we haven't talked about it at all I don't

remember when they all came out but the as far

as the monopoly in the life and the trivia pursuits

and every board game coming in, you know, Stratego,

Risk, I mean, I think every board game on the

planet came out in a Star Wars version throughout

these three films. I don't know how many of them

came specifically at the end here, but there

was definitely a lot of cool games like that

to get your hands on. Yeah, and I don't know,

like I said, one of the best games, despite being

a side scrolling Fighter is the episode three

adaptation there actually is an alternate ending

where Vader kills the Emperor and takes control

of the Empire And there's even exclusive stuff

on the disc where you get to see how things would

have turned out. It's a really well done game,

all things considered. But, I don't know, I mean,

E3 was obviously their last big push into the

digital medium, what you could really do with

it. And I think E3 creates the most conflict

where you can really do things. There's also

untold side stories here, because you see through

the Clone Wars television show now, Anakin had

an apprentice, Ahsoka. who is Hannah Montana

with a fucking lightsaber, but regardless of

that fact though, what happened to her, she's

probably dead when you look at Order 66, considering

how many of the Jedi were killed, but there's

even a Star Wars comic called, I can't remember

what the hell it was called, but it was called

Jedi Purge, and it featured Vader, where he goes

around and kills a lot of the Jedi himself personally.

So there's a lot in there. Yeah, I remember that

story. That would have been cool to see too.

Yeah, like, there's so much that Ep 3 gave us

in terms of the expanded universe. Like I said,

the problem is with that though, it conflicts

with so much stuff, and the fact that the Clone

Wars series on television is still not finished.

Now they're bringing back fucking Darth Maul

with Count Dooku in the series. I wonder what

kind of problems that's gonna create. I know,

the problem is Lucas signs off on too many things

established to canon, and now with talk of a

new 7 -8 -9... What's it gonna do to the expanded

universe, including the Truce of Akura, the Courtship

of Princess Leia, Dark Empire by Timothy Zahn,

or sorry, the Thrawn Trilogy rather, and then

the New Jedi Academy stuff with like Kevin J.

Anderson, or even the legacy of the Force that

happens a hundred years after all this shit has

been done. There's gonna be so many things that

are gonna be awesome and suck at the same time.

I know there's always been the talk of the seven

eight nine and I know it was always you know

the three trilogy etc etc I would be much more

interested in even going back and seeing more

previous stuff than to see what happens with

Luke and Han later To me that story ended and

I don't care what happened after episode 6. I

would much rather see the beginnings of Palpatine,

Mace Windu as a younger person and all the beginnings

of those people. I don't know, maybe that's just

me. I mean, Palpatine himself is essentially

seen as far as younger Palpatine, like kid Palpatine.

No, I mean the beginning of him as a Sith Lord.

Oh. His background and the more of the Jedi's

background and stuff like that compared to I

don't want to see Luke again See, I don't I don't

I don't think you would see the rise of Palpatine

because technically we've seen it I mean, I don't

really mean the rise of it. I just mean the background

of it Right, but I don't think you would even

see that because he had to keep the I mean even

in episode one We know he has you know Strange

intentions, you know what I mean? So We know

that eventually he is going to become the Emperor

at some point. So I mean you kind of see the

whole background of it Yeah, you don't see how

he got started but I mean he tells the background

story about his master because he was the one

that killed the guy that knew how to Cure people

Right. So all right. Well, I think that's gonna

do it for us. This has been one extremely long

fucking Facebook looking record. So we're gonna

go to a little outtake that Kevin and I had recorded

where I basically screw up who died in episode

one. We'll be back after this. In a galaxy far

away, Naboor was under an attack And I thought

me and Qui -Gon Jinn could talk the Federation

into maybe cutting them a little slack But their

response, it didn't thrill us They locked the

doors and tried to kill us We escaped from that

gas The Medjarjar in Bosnass We took a bungle

from the scene And we went to feed to see the

queen We all wound up on Tatooine That's where

we found this boy Oh my, my this here Anakin

guy Maybe Vader someday later now He's just a

small fry He left his home and kissed his mommy

goodbye Saying soon I'm gonna be a Jedi Soon

I'm gonna be a Jedi Did you know this junkyard

slave isn't even 14 yeah Amidala wanted to I

frankly would have liked to stay We all fought

in that epic war And it wasn't long at all before

Little hotshot flew his plane and saved the day

And in the end some gungans died Some ships blew

up and some pilots fried A lot of folks were

croaking The battle droids were broken And the

Jedi I admire most Met up with Darth Maul and

now he's toast Though I'm still here and he's

a ghost I guess I'll train this boy And I was

singing My, am I this here Anakin guy? Maybe

Vader's some Someday later now he's just a small

fry And he left his home and kissed his mommy

goodbye Saying soon I'm gonna be a Jedi Soon

I'm gonna be a Jedi We were singing My my this

here Anakin guy Maybe Vader someday later now

he's just a small fry Goodbye, saying soon I'm

gonna be a Jedi But no, I'm at the Gungan battle

scene where Anakin's up in the little starship

thing and he's, you know, he's crashed and they're

- And I just watched all three of these this

summer. Obi -Wan just died and everything else,

so I'm like halfway to the end of episode one.

I hope Obi -Wan didn't die in that. I'm not -

fuck. Fuck, you know what I meant. Yeah, I did.

Quigon, there you go. Whatever. You know what

I meant. Ryan's with Obi -Wan. Whatever. If he

dies, then it's a whole different movie. It's

a whole different trilogy. It's like they went

into a fucking TARDIS. How many times can this

guy die? Yeah, exactly. Oh god. You know what

I would have loved to have seen? I'd have loved

to have seen all six of these movies in celebrity

deathmatch style and just in claymation. That

would be awesome. I don't know why your brain

comes up with that stuff. It would be cool. Shut

up. Sometimes you amaze me. Be voicey, seriose

Final thoughts on the prequels. Mike, sum it

up for us. Well, it's hard to compare these to

the original trilogy because frankly, in some

ways, they are not as good because it comes from

a different era of filmmaking. George Lucas,

as a director, has accomplished some great things

with these prequels. However, though... The problem

is I think these were left maybe for too long,

waiting 25 years between your original stories

and the ones you have now. It's good in some

ways, bad in others. I think the prequels should

be appreciated for what they are, but they're

not necessarily necessary viewing for everybody

because you can enjoy the original trilogy without

seeing these. There's enough material in the

original trilogy to stand up to these easily,

but... As someone who's grew up in a new era

of, like I said, filmmaking, etc., looking at

the prequels as the beginning of the Star Wars

trilogy gives someone a different view of how

everything goes together. There's been several

articles written about this in several major

magazines explaining should you watch episodes

1 -6 or episodes 4 -5, 4 -5 -6, then 1 -2 -3.

So... I would say overall, the prequels, they're

a different kind of movie. They're still entertaining

for what they are. They do give different sides

to the characters, but if you expect them to

be as good as the original Star Wars movies to

accomplish what they did years ago, they succeed

in some ways, they fail in others. But you probably

should still see them. Episode 3 being the best

of the bunch. Episode 2 being significantly less

expansive in scope compared to F3 in terms of

what happens. And episode 1 is how the story

began. It is kind of a character insight when

you look and see how Anakin has come from being

this innocent little boy to becoming Darth Vader,

Obi -Wan from being a reckless young Padawan

to the respected leader of the Jedi Order armies.

So it's interesting to see how everything comes

about, but View at your own risk, especially

if you're a snob about these movies because you

may be disappointed in what you find. Yeah, yeah

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