Movie Week in Review
Police Academy: Mission to Moscow Review

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the two largest world powers have finally begun
working together. But now, just when we thought
the Cold War was over, leave it to these guys
to heat it up again. Those fearless spies from
the force are together again. On a mission of
peace and understanding. Because the academy's
finest will stop at nothing. When it comes to
fighting crime. They're not sitting down on the
job. They're not being taken for a ride. And
when it's time to use force, excess is best.
They're about to show Russia just how ugly Americans
can get. The Cold War may be over, but give them
time. They just got here. Police Academy, mission
to Moscow. We're in deep worst. Hello. And welcome
to the 57th episode of the M -Wire. Today we'll
be finishing up the DVD spotlight on the Police
Academy films. Yay! I am T .O .G. and Mike and
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don't know. But anyway. So yeah, we are here
to finish out a Police Academy film series with
Police Academy Mission to Moscow. And we'll also
be talking about the TV series and the future
of the franchise, eventually. Did you ever see
this one? The seventh film? Yeah. Yeah, I watched
it once, and then I've kind of refreshed my mind
on YouTube. Uh -huh. Wasn't there something you
had to retract or something or other about last
week? Yes, the movie Six, I'd have to say, is
not good as Or is just as bad as seven Seven
I forgot about these key points Removes Probably
60 70 percent of the main cast mm -hmm So you
have literally like five or six of the original
cast and then everybody else is new They literally
take out all elements of it. Yeah Mm -hmm. That's
not good Yeah, that's not good at all So getting
right into the plot here Russian mafia boss Constantine
Canale Is laundering money under the guise of
legitimate business The business is a highly
addictive video game that allows him to bring
down almost any security system controlled by
a computer on which the game has been played,
with a string of major robberies as the result.
sends for help from America, Rakhov decides to
bring someone he met at police convention, Commandant
Eric Lassard, played by George Gaines. Lassard
briefs his team about the mission in Russia and
they head to Moscow. Along with Lassard in Moscow
are Sergeant Larville Jones, Sergeant Eugene
Tackleberry, Captain Debbie Callahan, Cadet Kyle
Connors, and Captain Thaddeus Harris. As they
plan to nail Kanale, he has cooked up a new scheme,
creating an even more addictive form of game,
a version that can bring down absolutely any
computer security system in the world, including
systems that protect databases that belong to
world powers. Okay, so it's pretty much Die Hard
4. So, pretty much, we only have got four of
the original characters returning. Yeah, that's
not good. With, well, my bad, five. Yeah. And
then we've got Cadet Connors, which technically
wasn't actually going, you know, according to
their little manifest that they were going to
have go on the mission. He hacked the computer
system and changed the name from the original
guy that was actually qualified to go on the
mission to himself. Oh. And then Lissard having
happened to print this while it was changed.
Well, there is two good things about the new
cast. There aren't many of them? Well, there's
two good things about the new cast. Ron Perlman
and Greg Berger. That is true. And of course,
Greg Berger plays Lieutenant Talinsky and Perlman
plays the bad guy Russian dude. Yeah, I didn't
quite care for like this film in general Well,
I mean to start it off this was the only one
of the film series that didn't make even a million
dollars It made a hundred and twenty six thousand
dollars in the u .s. Making at least successful
movie in the series Wow And I guess the the critic
Leonard Maltin said if the United States and
Soviet Union were still at odds This film would
make a great weapon. It would bore people to
death Yeah But yeah, and it sucks because hooks
in a high tower Weren't in this at all. Mm -hmm,
which I'm sorry. You need the entire cast or
the films just kind of suck Yeah, it's It's the
dynamic of all of them Whether they play a big
part or not, you know, I mean Hightower shit
He was one of the bigger parts of the six films
that were out before this and hooks granted She
didn't have that huge of a part, but she was
in all the other ones. I mean and she she served
a purpose Yeah Yeah, you know, it's like we've
said over the last two three weeks that we've
kids and where it's kind of gone daily instead
of weekly which will be getting back to weekly
after this episode is is done but uh... all the
last couple weeks that we've been reviewing these
honestly just stop watching after film four is
five six and seven five might have been all right
maybe have five i'll give it one through five
Just just for the sake of it because five was
pretty good. I mean other than it not having
Mahoney Yeah, it was the last One in the serious
to actually have a point Yeah This one why the
hell would they send a police academy on a mission
to Moscow? to investigate a Russian crime lord
Yeah, that makes makes no sense and then a video
game with Hidden you know elements in it that
caused people to get addicted I mean even they're
the people that they had on the news broadcasts
on the show like this old man He's sitting there
playing it shoot even the the guys from the Russian
police squad are Playing the game and then the
kid kid that the cadets Connor Connors yes, he
goes over and he helps that that cop get to the
next level so he didn't die and then they start
their their briefing on Canali This is It just
it was retarded and then they're they called
the the video game the game Mm -hmm like that
was the name of the game the game and then Canali
in this one wants to make an even more addictive
game called the new game Mm -hmm, and then it
was just it was so stupid. I mean the only funny
parts in this film were Between Harrison Jones,
I mean Lesard spent 90 % of the film Because
when they were at their briefing originally he
got into the wrong car They told him to get into
this one particular car ended up riding with
a funeral Was with them the rest of the damn
movie pretty much They they went to go I Mean
he went with some Russian group and they were
at a funeral and he's you know just talking like
people actually can understand him and care and
The other ones are actually doing their job Harris
of course is getting made fun of along the way
because they have a Russian equivalent to Harris,
which is a douchebag and So it makes you like
Harris even more and then There's various scenes
in this movie that Are kind of retarded but funny
and they have a scene where larval is getting
shot at With a gun and he's on a bicycle on one
wheel and then they hit the uh... front spoke
and then uh... it makes that ting sound like
on the old uh... looney tunes and then it turns
and goes the other direction and then they shoot
it and it goes ting and then he goes back the
other direction oh so it's like the back and
forth cowboy gag in the bar yeah so that was
pretty funny but i mean a lot of this film was
pointless and repetitive it was just you could
tell that they were on their last legs with this
film yes you could just tell yeah um and and
and for one it was done by uh a woman that had
never directed a feature film before it was her
feature film debut yikes it was not like and
i'm not blaming her totally because i mean it
is a lot of the time the writing yeah but These
guys had nothing to do with the series like this
this whole film was based on characters created
by the original guys So I mean this whole film
was kind of a slap in the face to the rest of
the police academy Like you could even get away
with saying the sixth one belonged with the series
despite the fact it was horrible Yeah Because
it was all in the same setting it was all the
same cast They hit this mission to Moscow thing
and it just tanked I mean with this film you
can kind of tell who if they were to bring back
this film series for an eighth one You could
tell who would probably come back Like I think
personally like I mean other than graph because
he's unfortunately passed away. Yeah Michael
Winslow, you know would come back He's been in
every element of the police Academy series. I
believe Leslie Easter book would probably show
up again Yeah, probably a GW Bailey would probably
show up I Would I would like to see I Think I
would like to see an eighth film over a reboot
because They could actually go back to the element
that was among the first and fourth film And
get as many of the original cast back as they
could It depends it off, right? Right, and I
agree with that, but it depends on... See, for
me, there's two types of way they can do this.
They can go the route of saying Police Academy
8 or Police Academy however they want to title
it, and it be a continuation. Say they ignore
the continuity of the first... Say they ignore
the continuity of the last three films five six
and seven and say they you know have Gutenberg
come back and Maybe it's a police academy of
today, and it's set in today's You know like
right now time Yeah, you know police academy
of the future. You know something that's not
what the original films were, but it's still
the same people You know or they could do a complete
reboot Bring up all of the old cast that are
still with us and have them as like their mentors
or something Yeah, kind of like they're doing
with Ghostbusters 3. Yeah Because I would be
all right with that But they would still need
to have some kind of image and some kind of thing
with the original cast They would have to find
Yeah, they would have to find some sort of If
you're gonna, like, I never got the appeal of
Tackleberry. I liked him despite the fact he
was a weird character. I just, and again, out
of the whole time that we've been reviewing these,
I haven't had a chance to really refresh my memory
from the films. I mean, as we've talked about,
like, three and four and five, I kind of remember
them. Really the only one that I've watched the
entire time that we've been doing these seven
episodes is the first film and in the first film
I just I didn't really get him. I didn't really
Understand his I mean, I know he's mr. Gunn happy
and must shoot everything and all that stuff
But there's only so many times you can do that
character over seven films or eight films or
whatever But my point is I would like if they
find like old stock footage or something some
way to homage him since he is no longer with
us Like say he went out in a blaze of glory or
something trying to defend the city or something
like that. I don't know But yeah, I'm not really
too sure how how this potential reboot is or
potential remake or potential new film Is gonna
work has Gutenberg said and I haven't really
read the news I've read the news articles, but
I haven't really kept up with it has Gutenberg
even said he would come back He never did say
one way or the other I think I think that It
would be better if he did yeah, because I mean
they've already lost one of the original cast
And I think, I'm pretty sure that pretty much
everybody else that was in this film, Jones,
Callahan, Lassard, Harris, I'm pretty sure they'd
all come back for another film. And Gutenberg,
I think he wanted to direct an eighth film, but
there were too many hangups on the writing and
gathering of the original cast because he wanted
to do basically, a return to the first film.
He wanted everybody from the first film and then
continue on from where basically this piece of
shit left off. But it would be back in their
own element, their own home and that kind of
stuff. And there were talks of them having David
Spade as one of the cops and some other people
like that. Which, I mean, granted, I could see
probably David Spade being in this again, in
this saga again. Yeah, I don't know, because
when did he appear in it? Was it three or four?
It was... four. Because it was the last one with
Mahoney and the first one with Harris coming
back. Right. And that was... four was released
in what, 87? 88? Uh, something around that. I'd
have to go back and look at the script. I think
it was 88. Oh, okay. Because I think 89, the
other film, the... Or no, it might have been
87 because there was 88 and 89 that they had
the fifth and sixth films and then there was
a gap until 94 for the seventh film. Right, right.
So I mean, and yes, we've kind of transitioned
from the seventh film into, you know, revivals.
Seventh film, don't ever watch it. Just leave
it at that. As for, you know, the eighth, I would
say Would rather see them do this over a reboot
because let's face it Who are you gonna get that
is going to be basically a giant to play? Hi
tower I mean they could pretty much throw about
anybody into hooks. I mean It wouldn't be that
big of a stretch high tower would be the difficult
one to cast Harris would be a difficult one to
cast Lassard Shoot, get Leslie Nielsen to fill
in for that. No. I mean, as bad as he is, I mean,
you can have, he would be a pretty close pass
-off. They have the pretty much same acting style.
The problem with that theory of replacing George
Gaines with Nielsen, Nielsen is too over the
top. I mean, just - Oh, I know that. Whereas,
uh, Gaines is kind of just like nonchalant, like
- Oh, it's supposed to be like this, you know,
just... Yeah. I would not want Leslie Nielsen
anywhere near this franchise. Well, I would before
putting some other person in the spot because
I don't think anybody else could do it. Count
one hand, you'd have to get somebody, you know...
Kind of similar. Tackleberry, you'd have to get
some goofy guy like that. Laravel Jones, there's
no way in hell they could replace. There's no
way you can replace Michael Winslow. There we
go. Yeah, we'll put Michael Wilson in there.
Yeah, really? Michael Wilson can be Tackleberry
or Tackleberry's version seeing as how he plays
all kinds of blow -em -up video games. True.
But I mean, like, you couldn't replace Winslow.
I mean, they already replaced Mahoney, basically.
With, uh, the other, uh, Captain Lussard. Yeah.
And, it was just, I don't know, it would be a
difficult recast for a reboot. I mean, they'd
have to basically just completely redo it, which
would be a completely different film series.
So there's really no good way of bringing it
back other than to do an eighth film and just
end it Yeah, I mean this after all the last like
decade Other than the the new films pretty much
superhero films are just new elements into it
Everybody's been going back to Stuff from the
early from the 80s and early 90s Yeah, we are
so gonna have a remakes suck episode of geek
cast radio. We're gonna have to get Get going
on some of that episodes, but but yeah, I agree.
It's just it's one of those things where And
I'm not necessarily sure they should redo it
or come back to the series because there's no
telling what it would do but with I mean is Indiana
Jones for They could have done without just because
I mean, I'm not a big fan of a buff, but he The
film, I haven't seen it, don't really care too
honestly, but it, I heard it did well enough.
And then there's Die Hard 4, which did good.
And I mean, there's becoming more, I mean, they've
been talking about more sequels, like Ghostbusters
3, Men in Black 3, which hopefully, if they were
using Riptorn, they got them before you got...
in trouble with the law. You know, it's stuff
like that. I mean, they're making comebacks to
the old series and then making an additional
film just to continue them. And for the most
part, they're all ending them, other than like
Indy and Die Hard, which I think they're gonna
go to a fifth film and then cut it off. But you
know there's some other series that I wish that
they would come back to like Beverly Hills Cop
and some other ones, but besides the point Police
Academy 8 would be in their better interest Even
though now that's kind of dropped since March
and now they've been talking about a reboot Yeah
Again a lot of these thoughts that I'm having
are more for a geek cast radio episode versus
this this episode so police academy got an animated
series yes the elements there is a lot of times
so i think i remember seeing one or two episodes
just from the information i've gathered from
wikipedia animated series sucks ass yeah i i
would have to say so and so that uh... and and
it's characters in this show. It's not even about
the weird characters, I'm gonna read a little
synopsis here really quick. The animated series
takes place chronologically between the fourth
and fifth film of the series of films. Twelve
characters are recreated for this animated version,
including a team of Academy graduates led by
Cary Mahoney, a like little rogue bachelor boy
who unconsciously and consistently does his best
to make life miserable for Captain Harris and
his... Uncle Head Assistant Sergeant Proctor.
Mahoney's friends include the aptly named Moises
Hightower, Walking Sound Effects Machine Larville
Jones, Trigger Happy Eugene Tagelberry, Sweet
and Timid Laverne Hooks, Tough as Nails Debbie
Callahan, Larger Than Life House and bread -and
-butter duo of reformed gang members Zed and
his best buddy Sweetchuk. Eric Lassard is the
highly respected, albeit dreamy, commandant and
academy newcomer. The Professor is also on hand
to the cadets' new friends. The K -9 Corps, a
group of cop dogs then stalking our crime -fighting
heroes with endless supply of wacky gadgets as
they combat motley crew of Kingpin and other
recurring villains. such as Numbskull the Claw,
Mr. Sleaze, Lockjaw, and Amazonia. Okay, just
by going off of that, evidently they've ripped
off Dr. Claw, Oddjob, or... Who else could be
equivalent to Lockjaw? Oddjob... Damn it. I don't
know an Amazonia could be a Wonder Woman ripoff
the biggest problem I have with this series and
I I haven't ever I haven't seen it in a very
long time Is the voice cast? The voice cast in
this is just Why would you make an animated series
off the films and not use the film actors unless
you couldn't get them? Then don't make the damn
series you have Ron Rubin never heard of that
guy as Carrie Mahoney Dan Hennessey, I think
I've heard of him, but he plays he plays Zed
and Eugene Tackleberry uh... howard morris as
carl sweet chuck and the professor never heard
of howard uh... greg morton never heard of him
as larval jones and moys is high tower how the
fuck can you have a cartoon with larval jones
and and not get michael winslow to voice his
own fucking character it makes no damn sense
to me whatsoever frank mocker's additional voices
well yeah but that's that's beside the point
uh... Lynn Carlson as Captain Thaddeus Harris.
Don Franks as Thomas House Conklin and Proctor.
Yeah, I don't know. That's another thing I gotta
say. They didn't have Proctor in the seventh
film either. Oh yeah, wow. That's not good either.
Really quick, there's some VHSs of this thing
floating around. I don't think... I don't think
there was... Yeah, there was no DVDs of this
yet. And then there was action figures. Do you
have any Police Academy action figures? No, but
now I'm going to look for some. Oh, Christ. Look
out eBay. I'd probably get a Mahoney, a Larvel
Jones, and a Harris figure. I mean the shit right
there. You need to make sure that they have the
likeness of the film characters. Oh yeah, I wouldn't
get them otherwise. They would be no point. If
they don't look like their character... Let me
just go through this really quick. Series 1 in
1988 you had Carrie Mahoney and Samson Dogg,
Claw with Mouse or Cat, See again, Dr. Claw and
Mad Cat. What the fuck? Um... Eugene Tackleberry
with armed flak vest. Well, duh. Uh, Larvel Jones
and Bullhorn. Oh, wow. If that has Michael Winslow's
likeness, I want one of those. Oh, man. It'll
be so out of place in my toy collection, much
like Justice League Lobo is, but whatever. Moises
Hightower and Meter Reader Scooter. Oh, good
lord. That doesn't sound too good. Mr. Sleeves
with Photodog, Numb Skull with Smashing Helmets,
and Zed and Police Skateboard. Series 2 you had
Captain Harris, was a mail -away all. Damn, that
sucks. Swat, Eugene Tackleberry, with Fizzooka.
uh... fling high with crazy karate, flung high
with crazy karate gear kingpin with thief trap
safe uh... karate larville jones oh boy i wonder
what that one looks like holy crap and then uh...
In 1989 they had a special assignment rookies
Line undercover Carrie Mahoney smack attack house
with hoagie blaster Stakeout sweet Chuck was
a mail away skyglide and said with hang glider.
Oh good lord And then also in 88 there was vehicles
and play sets crash cruiser cycle crash with
figure precinct police station and copper corner
released through jasco uh... that's kinda interesting
i'd like to see some of those laurel jones figures
though that would be really cool buddy go ahead
from what from what i'm seeing uh... thus far
of the figures no you don't okay you don't you
don't even want them They appear like they're
they're animated selves. Oh, no They're they're
on none like the films, which I think that would
be something cool to see them come back with
I mean, you know considering they're going back
and doing like You know Ghostbusters and back
to the future and all that kind of stuff I would
like to see them go back and do some of those
Yeah, like maybe from the first film and then
just leave it at that Mm -hmm Yes Um, so, on
that note, I think we're gonna end this. Oh,
there was a TV show. Oh yeah, there was, but
do we really... It was short -lived, and it had
the only character from the Police Academy films
was Larville Jones, you know, Michael Winslow.
That was the only returning character for the
films to the TV show. Yeah, I... All the clips
for this are now lost, you know, as far as, like,
internet goes and whatnot. Yeah. The, uh, I will
say this, the Police Academy figures, like, the
logo looks the same, and then they tried to have
the little ant look, uh, of how they did on the
cases of the videos, but the figures look like
utter ass. Okay. Like... They look nothing like,
they look like some cheap figure you'd buy at
big lots. And their base is basically, the precinct
is basically a half built bat cave from the early
90's. Lovely. Yes. So basically we're gonna run
screaming away from the police academy toys.
Yes, if they were actually accurate, I might
actually consider it since they look nothing
like their actual movie characters There's no
way in hell I'd pay upwards of I mean they go
from two to like 50 bucks for some of the figures
and are you serious? I swear to God and so the
the base It's $200. I'm here and it's why would
you such shit quality? I would never pay for
these there's wouldn't have bought them back
in the day I got I got an idea now but it was
too busy collecting Masters of the universe Ninja
Turtles and Batman figures back in the day to
worry about crap that has no detail yeah I got
an idea for a topic discussion for toy cast so
that's that that's it's a good thing we talked
about these toys because also I wouldn't have
that idea but anyways I think we're gonna end
this journey down the rat hole of holy hell.
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