Mission: Impossible Franchise Review

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Hello and welcome to episode 130 of MWIRE, a

movie we can review here on the GeekCast. We're

doing it with our guy, of course, Steve -Joe

and Mike, and we were supposed to do this episode

last year when the actual 20th anniversary happened,

but sadly that never occurred. But we're doing

it now. It's been 21 years of dealing with the

IMF, the Impossible Mission Force, and of course

I'm joined by Doug Able, who may or may not be

the best agent of choice for this mission. First

of all, it's not Tom Cruise, it's the movies.

No, it's not. No, no, no. Well to be fair I saw

a legend like I don't know Almost 20 years ago

at this point a movie is not very memorable for

me Last thing I remember is Tom Cruise is a leprechaun.

Oh You've got it. You've got to see it again.

He is not a leprechaun I am so not watching it

if I come out to California again, I mean ain't

happenin Anyway mission impossible originally

a television series back in the 50s and 60s and

1996 they decide to make a film franchise out

of it and pissed a lot of people off about it

especially Peter Graves and a few other of the

classic TV characters Peter Graves played Jim

Phelps originally and in the first movie they

make Jim Phelps a traitor and that apparently

caused some controversy with the original cast

and None of the original cast, to my knowledge,

returns. Honestly, it's better without the original

cast. Oh, those are fighting birds. I mean, I

like the old TV show. I do. It was very cool.

But that first movie was, you know, we'll get

into here in a minute. Do you remember if you

saw the first one in theaters? Yeah, actually

I did. First one I was very impressed with partially

because of all the special effects and stuff

that they did, you know, the the one thing that

everybody remembers about Mission Impossible

is the drop where he's hanging like, you know,

that inch above the floor. Yes. That was the

big thing. And I was always jazzed about it.

I'm like, this is actually a decent spy film,

decent action film for what it was. And it was

a summer blockbuster. So, you know, we went out

to go see it. Ninety six. and then four years

later mission two comes and everybody you know

turns against the franchise except for me oh

oh come on that was just a horrible storyline

that the whole here let's look let's launch a

virus let's throw a virus out there and we're

gonna we're gonna give it to dandy newton and

send her out into the world I think what they

were trying to do with the second one, I won't

get into this further later, but I think what

they were trying to do in general was ramp up

the mysteriousness of it because that was part

of the complaints, part of the controversy of

the first film, is that it wasn't like, Mission

Impossible, the original TV series was supposed

to be, you know, you figure it out. The first

one was more action than puzzle. And I think

the whole, with all the masks and everything

else that they used in the second one, the whole

double switch between Ethan and Shawn and all

that stuff, and then Hugh, Stamp, and Ethan and

all, just all the double switching with the masks,

I think that's what, for the second one, gives

us the mystery and intrigue, regardless if it's

just a standard virus plot. Yeah, and I don't

care what anyone says. I don't care what you

say. I don't care where Stephen ring says Wufu

bike fighting is awesome. Don't care motorcycle

jousting is amazing And the fact that they got

golden raspberries for the movie come on technically

Tom Cruise already did this No, seriously before

us before scary movie to before mission impossible

to 1990 days of thunder he and Michael what's

his name? We're we're we're wheelchair racing

And then we get so Mission 1 2 & 3 Happen within

the span of 20 within the span of 10 years of

each other Mission 1 is 96 2 is 2000 and then

six years later. We get mission 3 Honestly, I

was not even like Didn't even think there was

going to be a mission 3 after mission 2 not that

mission 2. I thought it was bad. I didn't But

I just figured okay, well, it's Tom Cruise He's

gonna go on to something else regardless of how

much the money you know money the movies make

and whatever else but no 2006 we get mission

3 we get a new director because the first film

was Brian De Palma The second film was John Woo

in the third film Mr. Felicity himself JJ Abrams

You can tell you are so excited I mean, I want

to say at this point he'd had Alias under his

belt. Yeah alias was still going on. Yeah. Okay,

and I think he had just started lost as well

because I remember lost being like Season three

or season four of alias that they started that

off Yeah alias was 2001 to 2005 or six and then

right after that loss started right after mission

three was done Okay. So yeah, he kind of had

that under it. It was you could get the feeling

for it and I Guess Abrams I liked his creepier

stuff better where it was it was more you don't

know necessarily what's going on and three It

was okay. It was better than two. I will say

that much Oh Really for three they could have

picked a better really Philip Seymour Hoffman

is Owen Davian. Oh my god He's one of the more

menacing villains of the series. I kept watching

and I kept thinking oh my god any minute now

he's gonna bust out with Truman Capote This whole

thing of oh my god, and it was just we you know

I listen these kids going off and talking about

this and just Truman Capote with just this wonderful

gay man Yeah, that was what I expected him to

bust out with and I'm sorry that was all I could

think of watching the entire film 2011 we got

ghost protocol and this this movie was very incredible.

Yes because it was brad bird directing mission

four uh... and then mission five and mission

six it has been announced or it has been confirmed

by at least several different people on the production

or else that christopher mccrory who did rogue

nation will also be coming back in twenty eighteen

to do mission six they have not done a subtitle

for mission six yet uh... so no clue on what

The only thing I know from what I read on various

sources is that apparently mission six will kind

of be the skyfall for the mission impossible

franchise basically what I've read is that it's

Supposedly supposed to give us more insight and

background on Ethan's life or maybe a past life

or whatever so Interesting maybe we'll get a

little bit more on his back history with him

and his wife because I That whole thing was kind

of messed up for me. I was trying to follow it.

I was kind of like Huh, I got oh oh and four.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we'll get to that stars of

the film Obviously Tom Cruise in the first film

you had Emilio Estevez who lasted all of 20 minutes

or so, you know Well, yeah, that's later. Also

in the first film you had Christian Scott Thomas.

As I said, John Voight is Jim Phelps. Second

film was, as we said, Thandie Newton, Anthony

Hopkins. Luther played by Ving Rhames has been

in almost all of them I almost didn't think he

was gonna be in four because they didn't show

him until the very end of Ghost Protocol I Know

I was like wait a minute. Where's Luther? What's

he doing? Come on? You know, I mean technically

he is the Felix to Ethan's bond Honestly, I gotta

say they're probably the only reason I'm gonna

watch if they have you know if they actually

do come out with with six I know I know I know

if it actually hits out. They were supposed to

start production last year I don't know they

were supposed to start start filming last year,

but I'm not sure if it's happened yet. Yeah I

mean those would be the two people that I would

want to watch the series for Doesn't hold an

interest for me anymore. I'm sorry the villains

of the pieces As I said, John Voight ends up

being the villain in the first movie. You get

Douglas, not Douglas, Dougray Scott in the second

movie, Owen Davion played by the late, great

Philip Seymour Hoffman in the third film. The

fourth film was a little weird. Yeah. It seems

to me that after the third film, either the production

company changed or something changed. Yeah. The

first three films were done by Cruz Wagner, which

is Tom Cruise and Paula Wagner's production company.

And then by the fourth, fifth, fourth and fifth

films, like I love Rogue Nation and I think it's

the best one out of the five outside of, you

know, the first, I mean, we'll, we'll rank them

at the end of the podcast, but it's one of those

things where At the beginning of that, you got

Paramount, you got Sky Dance, you got Alibaba,

this, that, and you got like four different production

companies after the Paramount, and I'm like,

what the hell is going on here? You're like,

OK, hey, great, we're getting into the movie.

Damn, it's just the production studio thing.

Yep. The box office performance for this franchise

is amazing. In 21 years. This franchise has a

two point seven seven zero billion dollar box

office I would say that's a popular. It's a popular

franchise. Yes And yeah, so getting into you

know notes and things like that the first film

Again, this is 1996 or so and, you know, Emilio

Estevez is, you know, fairly popular still at

that time. He's the coach of the Mighty Ducks,

come on. Yeah. You know, he plays Jack in the

first film and the best line from him was, um,

Asta lasagna, don't get me on you, just don't

chew it. Talking about the explosive gum And

you look at this fit you look at mission one

and look at this film and look when this film

was made because this film was Produced anywhere

between 94 95 and then released in 96 or whatever

some time frame before the actual release date

of May May 22nd 96 They could still smoke on

planes back in the 90s You can't smoke on a damn

airline today unless you own the unless you own

the plane unless you're a Tony Stark Yeah, unless

you're flying private airlines or something like

that. They're not gonna let you light up. Oh

Yeah, poor Jack. He didn't last very long What

did you think as you were watching? Yeah, obviously

you've seen this before but it's been a while

What were you thinking when you were watching

this one again for the first film? I liked it.

I mean it was it was going on. It was pretty

good. It's the whole thing of the Because obviously

this title was not that he Ethan wasn't part

of the IMF yet with this really I mean He kind

of was he kind of wasn't he was he wasn't he

was an agent. He wasn't in charge He was just

a field agent, right? He kind of gets that framing

of you know his fellow agents and and that whole

mission gone wrong and you kind of see this Backroom

dealings that are going on of who's conniving

and who's doing what? I thought it was good for

what it was you know it the It held it holds

up it holds up for the action mm -hmm 20 -plus

years yeah absolutely the The the scenes of him

breaking in you know getting this rogue team

together with big Reims and the others where

they get the rogue team together they they kind

of Go off and break into break into the buildings

here and do that whole spy thing. That was impressive

to me That was like they're doing this whole

thing of we're gonna break into a building that

really has no way in or it has no supposedly

Way to get in here and they're doing this sneaking

in on there all this all to All the further the

mission here at the very end so they can finally

capture it, you know, they can capture and deal

with max. Yep The funny thing about this first

film is that there are at least three scenes

that are very memorable for me. Obviously the

wire drop, just the first wire drop, not even

the one where Krieger lets go to kill the rat

and he lets him drop drop, but the first one

was cool. And then obviously the second close

call wire drop, him jumping out of the window.

in the restaurant with the water coming out.

I remember that being a highlight reel. And then

at the end, the explosion of the helicopter that

throws him onto the train, and then the blade

comes within an inch of his neck. And I have

one thing to say. Red light, green light, red

light, light. Exactly. I remember the mainframe

scene. the CIA scene where they're where they

finally do get Ethan back up into the vent and

Krieger grabs the disk and lets go of his knife

and first thing I can think of right before William

Donlo picks the knife up when it's just a shot

of the knife just sticking there on like that's

not a knife this is a knife I'll tell you that

that is Lego Did for their Lego Dimensions game

they they came out with year two mm -hmm you

redid the entire first movie of Mission Impossible

they put it into the Lego version and They have

that scene you actually have to break in and

they have Lego rats that are running around in

the vent before you have to do the drop It's

hilarious. So that's funny. I should have showed

it to you while you were out here I'll be out

there eventually again. What I do love is how

the walkthrough of the betrayal happened. Jim

is assuming it's Kittredge, and Ethan is looking

at it as, oh, this is Jim. Jim did this. Because

after all, those damn Gideons of the Drake Hotel

Chicago stamped the Bible. Do love the train

sequence That train was just a Bomb sequence

at the end and being on top even with the helicopter

chasing after them down the tunnel You know all

the stuff with him being found out. Oh, it's

not who I thought it was and it's like oh shit

Mm -hmm great stuff so Absolutely What would

you rate the first film zero to five on this

one here, I'd probably give it a four There were

a few things that were just kind of like, okay,

you know over time I wouldn't say it's you know,

the most spectacular film I've ever seen but

for the entire franchise It was a good film.

It was a good stepping stone Because you know

at the end of it, you know, you've got the the

studio the studio the studio Wow the stewardess

the flight attendant asking him how about the

cinema of the Caribbean so you know that that

it's going to continue here with this first film

you had honestly to me almost two unknowns because

let's face it when people hear the the the name

U2 the first thing everyone remembers is Bono

no one remembers Larry Mullen and Adam Clayton

Or at least until this film I didn't know those

were there like I knew there are other band members

in in YouTube But you know 1996 I was 16 years

old. I was just listening to the streets have

no name You know it's like I wasn't paying attention

to who the other band members were That's it.

That's all everybody Yeah, Bono and Edge, Larry

Mullen and Adam Clayton, yep. Yeah. So Larry

Mullen and Adam Clayton did the theme song, the

main theme for this. And now you say this is

your favorite out of the five, right? This is,

I remember in 1996, radio DJs, my favorite radio

DJs, Dave Schilling and Chainsawed. Dave Rickards

gets on the radio and he goes, okay, hold on.

Hold on I'm gonna blow your guys's minds and

he goes you got to listen to this thing by you,

too You too. Oh, okay. Great. You know, I'm thinking

he's gonna play something off the track of Joshua

tree or something You know, mm -hmm, and then

he plays this and I'm like, oh Oh, I like this

cuz I you know, I grew up watching the 80s version

of Mission Impossible You know, so I'm like,

okay, and I hear this and I hear the electric

guitar on it. I'm like this is cool I like this

version yep and then the rest of this the score

is weird for this because it said online and

through various things that Danny Elfman was

the composer for it But yet when I look at it

on iTunes it says Danny Elfman's name at the

top of the iTunes listing But under each individual

track it lists somebody completely different

I Have no clue. Maybe he was the arranger or

something like that I Guess I'm not really sure

so we fast forward four years later and I remember

seeing the trailers for Mission 2 and I was excited

because in the trailers, most of the early trailers,

all you heard was the instrumental from Take

a Look Around. You didn't really hear, like,

I just thought, okay, it's clearly Limp Bizkit,

but, you know, it's not, you know, it's... Them

just do the same thing that Larry and and Adam

did with doing an instrumental but no it's a

full -on song called take a look around but but

mission to I love how this starts like I think

that's so cool. You basically start with the

villain and then you start with Ethan on vacation

Yeah, and I will admit that the rock climbing

scene was kind of cool Even if it was fake because

I did see like a making of for that scene It

is Tom Cruise doing the whole hanging where he's

doing the whole iron cross hold but the actual

climbing is stunt doubles Yeah, he's actually

only about eight feet up in the air when they

did that scene with him doing that iron cross

thing Yeah, fake rock and they just superimposed

it in Well, yeah, but as time went on he insisted

on doing his own stunts Every other film after

this he did his own stunts pretty much. Yeah

Make sure we'll make sure we cover that in Ghost

Protocol. Oh Lord. Oh, yeah. Oh I'm not I'm not

even looking at her right now and I I can just

feel those gloves just letting go. Oh my god

alright, so mission to basically it's It's Ethan

versus Sean Ambrose And Ambrose wants to basically

make a lot of money by releasing a virus and

then selling the the antidote at a high cost

and and everything like that good Martin sure

Kelly or however, you say is the you know the

For Kelly that guy who who jacked up the Epi

pens like $600. Yeah, that's what this is Yeah,

that's that's true What is interesting for me

is how much Ethan has changed as a character

between the first and second film. Not just in

his appearance. I have a theory, and it kind

of goes out the window with 4 and 5, but I have

a theory that the odd movies are short haircut

Ethan, the even movies are long haircut Ethan

because they constantly change. Yeah, that was

something that kind of bugged me. I'm like, okay,

too Okay, you grew your hair out. You know, you're

kind of going for the more hippie rogue type

of thing That kind of bugged me with this film

because it really he really wasn't kind of the

rogue he was hey I'm part of the IMF and we're

going to stop the bad guy. This was This was

a typical John Woo film in that you had to shoot

him up. You had the fast action you had the You

have the replacement killers style that was hitting

there. That's you know, everything's screamed

John Woo for this film Well, that's because the

guy directed the movie I mean the director is

gonna have the way, you know I mean his his you

know The writers can write the story but the

director is gonna have the way that he wants

the film to be the way that he wants the film

I mean just look at Star Wars anyway You know

There are a couple of standouts here with scenes.

Obviously the bike jousting is a standout. There

are several other scenes like the one where he

throws the thing and shoots it and explodes the

door and he walks by it all slow motion like.

That's a woof thing. Another woof woof thing

is the damn doves or pigeons or whatever the

hell they are. Flying around in slow motion I

Love Luther in this movie Luther like Luther

in the first movie. We're just meeting him We

were just kind of getting to know him but in

this movie He's an $800 pair of Gucci shoes.

What the hell? You know, you know Thought the

end switch with hunt and Hugh with Ethan and

Hugh was great. I thought that was really interesting

that that again using the masks Because they

use the masks throughout this whole movie Ethan

doubles Sean Sean Well, no, actually, I don't

think Ethan ever doubled Sean, but Sean doubles

Ethan Everybody else is wearing masks. You got

Anthony Hopkins over there best law almost Almost

until a few lines later a few movies later almost

the best line of the entire franchise Well, this

is not mission difficult. Mr. Hunt. This is mission

impossible difficult to be a walk in the park

for you Anything else you want to say about to

Well, we got to talk about the music too, but

I mean is there anything about the actual film

I hated the jousting Well, okay, here's the thing

and I'm gonna get my piece off here on this When

I watch the film this was one of these like really

bad things to really notice I'm noticing that

they're riding the street bikes and they're hauling

ass on sport bikes and then they get out onto

the to the beach to do the challenge and all

of a sudden I noticed that there's knobby tires

on the bikes and I'm like Really? You guys couldn't

hide that shit better? It was one of those glaring

things and you know, I was I was really trying

to suspend my disbelief throughout throughout

the entire movie, you know Okay, this is really

cool. It's you know, it's a mission impossible

thing and then I see that I'm like Good god,

that's horrible. That is just it bugged the hell

out of me and so for that that partly ruined

the movie for me that and then of course the

The scenes where you see the the guy who created

chimera and bellerophon Demetri not Demetri,

no Nikorovitch. Yeah. Yeah, but you see the the

effects of the virus on him The guy that he gave

it to mm -hmm. I Didn't need to see that. You

know, they could have just left that out and

left it to where it was off -screen like You

know Ethan see it and goes. Oh Jesus. We can't

let this thing out They've done it like that.

I would have been totally okay with it. But the

way that we'll put that in I'm just like I didn't

need to see that, you know It just it wasn't

needed for the for the rating of the film Those

are my big bitches about that film. Alright,

so we've got Hans Zimmer doing the score for

this one I like it. I think it's great. I love

what Hans did with this He works with the classic

theme very well. I think the music fits. And

again, and I've said this a lot, where what I

love is you can create the music for the movie

that is not the hero theme, but you can meld

the two together. It's right before, right when

Ethan is running out of Bear Island. right before

he runs out to the top of the thing to get to

Luther and Billy in the helicopter. It has this

low, low tone, and then it speeds up because

it runs right into the Mission Impossible theme,

and I just love the way that he did that. I just

love that slow and low stuff. As far as the other

songs... Take a look around is alright. It's

not the worst Limp Bizkit song, but it's not

the best one either And then for some odd reason

Metallica has a song in this score Yeah, I disappear

and I'm like, is this even in the movie? It's

not I don't remember it being like I just watched

Folks, I just spent the last 48 hours watching

these five films So I should remember that if

I heard a Metallica song in a movie Yeah And

again, I get it. They want to you know and The

way that it's advertised. Okay, so you have a

score which is a separate disc release Which

I actually have it over on my shelf here from

Hans Zimmer. It includes all the entire score

of the film plus Zet Mama's Iko Iko Yep, and

the original soundtrack. It's one of those ones

where it's like Mission Impossible 2 original

motion picture soundtrack uh... inspired by that

kind of thing where it's like hey this is based

on inspired by the film and sometimes those kind

of rubbed me the wrong way because if if i hear

a song in a movie and i go to a record town or

an f -y -e or a sam goody none of these stores

exist anymore but back then Hey, it'd be better

than being with someone that does anyway So,

you know these stores you'd go in God damn it.

Now. Where the hell was I going with this? Oh

You know you'd go in and you'd see that, you

know Hey, they've got all these licensed people

these licensed artists that want to get their

songs out on the you know This this score has

the soundtrack has a song by the butthole surfers

on it It does I will send it to you it does Yeah,

it's it's a little weird Yeah, we got Metallica

we got Rob Zombie but whole surfers the pimps

The Foo Fighters. Chris Cornell has a song on

here. What the hell is he doing on here? Godsmack

has one on here. Uncle Cracker. Buck Cherry.

Oh my god. And Tori Amos has a song on Mission

Impossible 2, ladies and gentlemen. Oh my god.

Oh my god. So funny. All right, we are what would

you rate to do we already rate to I don't remember

off top my head no, I You're gonna hate me for

this, but two I would probably give it a two

two -and -a -half. Yeah No, I get it and again,

like I said at the time when that first came

out I liked the first one I really did but I

enjoyed the action of the second one in the way

Like I said before the way the music worked with

it and everything else looking back on and rewatching

i still very much enjoy the second film it is

still in my top ranking of of the franchise but

i'd give it a three -and -a -half yeah i would

say that this was probably this is my least favorite

out of all You know out of all five this one

here is gonna be the lowest rated just because

I did not care for it How it came out I had high

expectations for it after seeing the first one

and it just didn't follow through so yeah All

right, we are gonna take a quick break because

we have Owen Davian talking to Dante from clerks.

We'll be back after this I was you in the bathroom

What the hell is your name? You have a wife girlfriend

Did you know what I'm gonna do next? I'm gonna

find her whoever she is. I'm gonna find her.

I'm gonna hurt her I'm gonna make her bleed and

cry call it your name. You know You're not gonna

be able to do shit You know why? Because you're

gonna be this close to dead Then I'm gonna kill

you right in front of her What's your name? Who

are you? You don't have any idea what the hell

is going on, do you? I mean, you saw it. I did

see a little blonde friend at the factory, right?

Well, that was nothing. That was... fun. Alright,

Mission Impossible 3, folks. 2006. Ten years

into the franchise. Um... We start this one at

one point and then flashback. I generally, because

I've seen this technique done so many times,

I generally don't like it, but for mission, for

the start of a mission movie, it kinda cool and

kinda works. I thought that was cool. Apparently

Ethan's retired, he's engaged, getting married,

and he's teaching the recruits instead of being

out in the field. Man, is he old. Well, I like

this I like this cover story that he had when

he was when he was at his house party He starts

telling people he goes. Yeah, I sit at the Department

of Transportation Watching screens all day and

it's really cool when you see people Like one

person touches their brakes and you see this

whole ripple effect go back and I remember hearing

that I would Wow He finds that fascinating and

the women are like, oh my god, I can so marry

him You have no idea what his real day job is

No, you have no idea. So what were your initial

thoughts when you first saw this one? This was

pretty good. It was again. I saw it and I was

like, okay This is a lot better than two I had

come off of this. Oh god Only thing like I said

was with Philip Seymour Hoffman. I kept looking

at it knowing it's Truman. It's Truman Capote

He's standing up there and he's playing this

villain the the bit with Ethan trying to kill

him on the plane and like cutting the cutting

the stuff and like Tell me tell me tell me and

big raves are standing there yelling at him Luther's

yelling at him This is not you Ethan. This is

not you. Mm -hmm. That was kind of hunky I knew

he wasn't gonna kill him I knew he was because

obviously we'd seen the flashback, you know,

we'd seen him with him setting it up Oh, you

know, I'm gonna shooter counting to ten So you

knew that it was gonna go on from that it was

just kind of like this is hokey. Why did they

do it? Yeah, it was a little hokey Well, there's

one other part that was hooked. It was even a

little hook here for me Because you know, we

had the drop in the first one. Mm -hmm. We didn't

have we didn't really have a drop in the second

one I technically I guess The whole jumping off

the cliff thing from cliff to cliff in the beginning

right before he does the the armbar hang Yeah,

I guess you could say that's good. It's not really

a drop, but I guess you could say that it's you

know kind of Yeah drop Yeah, but we had that

and then three they haven't jump up under the

wall of the Vatican to get in and as he drops

over on the wire and he hits the whole two inches

above the ground I'm like They really have to

do that You know that was that to me was just

hokey for that I was like, okay, whatever Yeah,

the cool thing with three is You had commented

on Facebook before we recorded this when I shared

the the lines The the quote page from IMDB. You're

like there are good lines in this movie. Of course.

There are good lines in this movie You look at

Ethan and Luther when Ethan is disguised as Owen

and they're both deadpan. What's up? Nothing.

What's up with you? Nothing. Just absolutely

love that. And this is our debut to Benji aka

Spock from the new Star Trek and Simon Pegg.

No, no, no, no, he wasn't Spock. He was... Not

Spock, he was Scotty. Yeah. Alright, I had to...

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the bet... Okay, so...

Mission 1, there were a lot of good lines. Mission

2, there were a couple of good lines. You know,

mission difficult. The line for me, for mission

3, comes from Luther. That look in your eyes

is a pain in my ass. You know that, right? I'll

comment on my film. Same one I posted up on Facebook

when they're going back and forth. You know,

you really shouldn't do this, man. You shouldn't

get hitched with a girl. I'm telling you, it's

a bad news thing. We got married three days ago.

Well, congratulations. That was probably the

best line from Luther for me for that film. And

basically the third film You know, it's I do

like seeing the the updated operational stuff

I thought that was kind of cool It was kind of

weird though that they need it like what I mean

by they updated operational stuff is the masks

and the voice prints or anything else but it

was kind of weird that they had to Did they not

have his voice on file? I mean, I know They tried

to set it up to where Davian is, you know, pretty

much, you know, no one can touch him. No one's

really close to him. That kind of thing. But

I don't know. Well, I bring up one other thing

about this film that bugged me and I said on

Facebook to you. I think I said it offline. Mm

hmm. Harry Russell's character. Yeah. So I remember

seeing executive decision with Kurt Russell.

And they made a big deal about Steven Seagal

being in the film. Mm hmm. Steven Seagal was

on screen maybe 10 minutes out of the entire

film. Mm hmm. Terry Russell was about the same

amount of time. You know, she they bring her

in. Ethan Hunt rescues her and then she dies

because a bomb goes off in her head. And the

way that the bomb went off, look at her face

was kind of like, you know, like the look on

her face, I swear to God, I looked at it. Oh,

my God. She just crapped her pants. Mm hmm. That

wasn't what it looked like. So the funny thing

is, I haven't seen this movie in a long time.

It's 2017, the movie's 11 years old at this point.

It's been a while since I've gone back and watched

this movie. I knew Carrie Russell was in it,

but since then, I've seen her in the FX television

series, The Americans, as Elizabeth, and oh my

god. That's a show you need to watch No, no,

no, I know I know but I'm just saying like, you

know, oh, yeah When you get to it get to it because

oh my god, that series is so friggin cool and

going back watching this reminds me of oh She

can be somebody other than Felicity. She can

be somebody other than the you know say anything

girl in eight days a week which was a really

really weird off -the -wall film to have her

in but anyway uh... ask it here so that you know

uh... that poor car or poor car absolutely Now,

another one of the changes here for Mission 3.

Mission 3 and 4 are both scored by Michael Giacchino.

Michael Giacchino is known for doing The Incredibles.

He's done Inside Out. He's done a bunch of other

things. I don't mind his... I have to go back

and re -listen to the Mission 3 score. It's been

a while, but hearing the music in the film...

Almost didn't really recognize the mission theme

like when Ethan would pop up on screen and stuff

Like I almost think it was undertone a little

bit Yeah, as soon as I heard the first like when

they start off with a movie and you see the credits

going in and I heard it I went oh What the hell

is that? Oh No god, no, you know if that was

That was just something that bugged the hell

out of me with music and it kind of carried through

on on four and into five But no, it shouldn't

have carried into five. We'll talk about that

later. I will bitch you out for that So mission

three For me, I you know, like I said really

really enjoyed it I do think that the even though

it's played out longer than what it really not

I don't mean played The constant exchange between

Davian and Ethan is great, you know. The whole

switcheroo between the characters is really awesome.

Like one has one captured and then later... vice

versa. But for me, I'm probably gonna give Mission

3 probably a 4. I did very much enjoy it. It

was something very different than the other two

films. It was... what? Yeah, I liked it too.

I would probably give it I Would probably rate

this is like a three and a half four Mm -hmm

Finally my my one thing that kind of bugged me

about it is as I'm watching this now I'm a huge

Pixar fan. I'm a huge, you know, I love Pixar

I know all these little things that are intrinsic

about Pixar and try to roll things in from their

days at CalArts That's that's for you're talking

about not three There's some stuff in here because

this is three Brad bird he directed this one.

No, he directed four. Okay was a three was JJ

I'm sorry. You're right. I'll hold off. Yeah,

what is your What would you rate three? Three.

Yeah three I would say because Again the whole

Truman Capote thing. I'm gonna give it a three

and a half. Okay I didn't understand the whole

thing at the end with with him and his wife.

So that was well, okay Let's talk about that

really quick for me one to four. So the thing

with him and his wife It was a giant cover -up

or initially throughout the whole movie We have

Hawkeye's character because they introduced Jeremy

Renner as Brandt in this. Essentially, it's friggin'

Hawkeye before he was Hawkeye. You know, because

obviously Avengers would not have come out for

another six years at this point. And I have something

up on that because my wife walked out when I

was watching it and she goes, hey, hey, this

is, um, oh my god, what's his name? She goes,

not Falcon, what's his name? Wow. She knew. She

knew it wasn't Falcon, but she's like, it's the

guy from the Avengers. She started laughing when

she said that. Hawkeye Hunter goes, thank you,

thank you. So funny. So they, so Brant tries

to explain that he was the guy watching this

couple after Ethan retired. And apparently Ethan

and Julia were the couple, were the husband and

wife on this assignment. somewhere, I forget

off the top of my head, even though I just watched

the movie like four and a half hours ago before

we recorded this, you know, and supposedly his

wife ended up dying, but this is a way, this

is a way for the writers to write themselves

out of a hole, to not have Ethan have to be retired

and just be a civilian. Basically they fake her

death and send her off. To you know wherever

to live her own life outside of Ethan and at

the end the scene to me meant more of Just showing

us the audience not really making any sense for

the movie, but showing us the audience that oh,

yeah, hey She is actually alive and they probably

do still love each other even though they can

never see each other ever again until Ethan,

you know Finally does retire when Tom Cruise

is 75. Okay She knows what he does now, so are

they gonna be going on happily married and I

was like I Didn't get that and I missed I guess

the bit where they talked about them killing

her off, you know this mission so well, yeah,

because that was the thing that was the At the

very end. I don't know how you missed this but

at the very very end When Ethan comes up to the

three of them and drops down the phone, your

missions, you know, choose to, see, that's what

I love about this, about three is that at the

end, your missions, he doesn't say, should you

choose to accept them? He just says, choose to

accept them. So he altered the line because he

wants to work with the team again. And what's

her name? Jane and Benji take the phones and

they walk away. and we're left with Brant and

Ethan and Brant basically said, that's when Brant

tells him the story of he was the guy watching

them, that kind of thing. And that's when Ethan

reveals, hey, look, you know, we actually, this

whole thing was a big ruse. I was meant to be

in that prison. It was a whole operation and

everything else. And the fact that Julia died

was supposed to protect her. That we faked her

death, and then Brant takes the phone and walks

away. Okay. Yeah. Because I was confused as hell,

I'm like, I know I'm gonna have to ask you to

please ignore me. Yeah. Alright. Ghost Protocol

has been enacted, so we've got Mission Impossible

4, Ghost Protocol, this came out in 2011, this

movie is six years old at this point. And, uh,

I wasn't sure what the hell to think of this

when I first saw the trailer. I just wasn't sure

at all what to think. I saw the trailers. I'm

like, yeah, it is mission impossible. Getting

a little long in the tooth. I mean, that that

was my first thought was, Oh, um, and then I

saw it and I was like, Okay, this isn't too bad

but the Incredibles director really Okay Yeah,

it's it's Brad Bird I do like though and I don't

let you talk about this cuz you know, you're

a huge Pixar guy I do like how he worked in the

a one one three. Yes Because I want to talk about

that a 113 is a classroom at Cal Arts and I want

to say it's for Intro to animation or something

like that They use that there's also another

room that they use throughout all their other

Pixar films It's not a 113 I don't think but

they have that going on throughout the entire

entire Pixar realm and it's an inside joke that

they've done it mm -hmm that you can totally

tell that there was an influence of Steve Jobs

in this film or or Apple in this film I should

say too because Apple owns or has a huge part

in Pixar's development they they've got like

a huge stake in oh absolutely in like they're

What is what is it called? Like they're they're

both like such okay And so they've had when I

was watching it I start seeing them Taking their

keys, you know taking their phones and doing

all these phone things and everything and of

course as Ethan's walking down the pier and he's

got the white headphones on I'm like, you know

a friggin iPod they had an iPhone that he's using

throughout the movie. Yep And coincidentally

all the laptops and everything before were all

We've seen it's PCs here. Oh, okay. I Don't you

know what the technology does not like I I've

said this before, I'll say this again, I do like

Apple devices, but I only like the iPads and

the iPhones. I'm not into... Okay, okay, yes,

the Apple TV. But I'm saying the portable stuff,

the stuff that you can't take with, you know,

you can't take an Apple TV with you and watch

it on the go. That's what the iPad and the iPhone

are for. I've never... I used to do Macs a long

time ago, and... Ever since I've been on a PC

for God knows how long since then every time

I get on a Mac I'm like it's backwards. What's

this? What's that? And you you have a Mac So

it's like, you know, but for me, it's kind of

ass backwards when it comes to the keyboard controls

and things like that I don't anything against

Apple. I like Apple but only certain products

from Apple But I don't mind it again. This is

you know three came out in 2006 this came out

in 2011. That's four years Between no five ten

and five five years between films God, I can't

do any meth tonight. I mean math You know and

it's just one of those things where I don't mind

that technology changed I love the scene with

the hallway the hallway scene was awesome that

was that was pretty bitching and then of course

like you see a Simon Peggs face pop up and shows

on the screen That was great. You know, of course

they're using the iPads to do that and I thought

that was that was really kind of a nice thing

because There are programs that guys have written

You know guys and girls have written for the

iPads that do all sorts of crazy shit like that

You know, so it is possible to do stuff like

that. You wouldn't realize it. Mm -hmm Absolutely

Michael G Aquino is back on the score for this

one I do like it. It's interesting. But I still

like another one a little bit better. I do think

that in this one the inclusion of the Lalo Schifrin

Mission Impossible theme is noticed more. bags

I again I think three was meant to be more of

not really a horror mission thing but more of

a kind of a scary don't turn out the light basically

it was meant to be like you know what I should

look this up but I really think a certain actor

should have been in this in mission three versus

a few others because if he was it would be It

would be Unsolved Mysteries all over again. And

the sad thing is, Robert Stack died in 2003.

Damn it! But yeah, so again, I understand why

the score in Mission 3 was kind of underplayed

a little bit, just from me watching the movie.

Again, I have not actually heard... I only have

2, 3, 4, I only have 2, 4, and 5 for the scores,

so... But it's one of those things where in four

you can clearly tell when the Lalo's theme comes

in What else about four did you like before you

talk about the music Again I cry I did like a

cram on this too Remember if this was the one

this is the one with the nuclear missile at the

end, right? Yes. Yes. Okay. Okay, so The one

of the better things about this is when at the

end He's getting ready to stop the missile heels.

Okay, and he looks at the guy and he goes, okay

mission accomplished Doesn't work. Yeah And then

later Luther's like did you really say mission

accomplished? Luther called it on it They're

like the company wouldn't pay out on that, huh?

Apparently driving it off, you know and the fall

really isn't covered that poor BMW Gives new

turn it gives new term to beats my wife What

is BMW backwards wanted Mercedes -Benz I love

BMWs, but anyway. So in three and four we have

a new kind of female assistant agent here. We've

got Jane Carter in this. Now what did you think

of this chick? I'm trying to think. Carter? She

was the chick in the dress fighting with the

other chick. Oh, okay. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm thinking

I'm thinking the blonde chick the assassin. No,

no, not not the assassin the other one She was

okay Seemed like it was just kind of like she

was put there to be this kind of stirred up love

interest for him, but You know, she was she was

okay. I kind of wish they brought back Maggie

Q but yeah me too, you know Another one I noticed

on this is and something that I just I used to

be fine with it, but lately Ever since and I

fully blame Fox for this but ever since I've

been watching the new lethal weapon series. I

just can't handle I Just cannot handle looking

at building scenes I just can't handle them Whether

it's up whether it's down looking over the edge

looking up at the sky I just I just cannot handle

them at all anymore it makes me Get and I'm not

even there, but it makes me get queasy Just looking

at them like every two if you watch the lethal

weapons series every time rigs is wall walking

on the edge of those of a roof and the camera

does a pan down angle it's like uh... i just

lost my lunch i don't exactly what you need there's

there's several video games which i can't play

any uh... this the infamously uh... title are

one of the but the hell out of me because of

that you start looking straight down you're like

you know a hundred feet up in the air type thing

looking out over this see if they know i can't

play with it Understand Yeah, absolutely So what

other do you have a favorite scene from this

one favorite favorite theme scene scene, sorry

Probably the very you know the the end where

they're fighting in the in the car park, you

know They've got the cars going back and forth

and they're they're back and forth with the suitcase.

Oh my god That was probably one of my favorite

scenes in this entire one. Although I will say

that there was a second bit that was kind of

kind of got me a little hot and bothered when

I'm watching and you see Tom Cruise is hauling

ass in that electric BMW. The the his assistant

is there switching, you know, switching her outfits

around and she comes in and see all of a sudden

the boosty type thing that she's changing the

car. I didn't understand why she was changing

clothes in the car, but whatever Yeah Yeah, why

was she changing clothes and like I'm trying

to remember now oh Because she was in the she

wasn't technically in mission gear She was in

the suit right because she was impersonating

the the assassin chick remember because they

did the whole hotel switcheroo thing That's right.

That's right. So she was in so Jane Agent Carter

was in the business suit and apparently she needed

to change out of that for some odd reason. Yeah

Good there was There was obviously the Burj Khalifa

scene where he's climbing the where he's climbing

the glass and his gloves are slipping. Mm -hmm

Damn damn damn. Oh, and of course the drop. They

oh, yeah drop again in this one. Yeah time It's

he's wearing a suit the magnetic suit and it

floats them above everything and I was kind of

like I watched it But it wasn't even him. It

was friggin Hawkeye. I know but it was still

No, that's not unless it's Tom Cruise No, I refuse

to count I refuse to count that It was still

the same spread eagle drop come on Spread eagle

drop the little remote Rover looking Optimus

Prime roller thing underneath the fan is what's

keeping him up and he has this elastic suit Tom

Cruise did that crap with wires and just wearing

normal clothes He didn't need a special suit

and a and a robot pal and a fan no that was almost

like that was almost like hawkeye was like okay

i'm gonna go to indoor skydiving today well he

didn't want to jump remember they're all yelling

at him jump jump jump jump jump up and down jump

around oh god i'm going to hell for that one

um what i like about this one i don't think okay

at the at the end of the first one we had cinema

of the caribbean um beginning of the second one

he's on vacation and he gets the mission through

the sunglasses which was cool uh end of the second

one they kind of go off and are back on vacation

and you know Anthony Hopkins is like oh you know

we'll find you if we need you beginning of the

third one it starts with a flashback and then

opens to this and then you know whatever and

the third one just kind of It doesn't just end,

but it does give sort of a happy ending to the

whole thing. But the fourth one is really where

I feel that the franchise is now starting to

go... Batman Begins Dark Knight -ish. Because

at the end of Batman Begins we have, oh... We

just got this at City Hall yesterday. It's a

calling card of some sort. Calls himself the

Joker. At the end of this, we get a whole thing

of... Rogue Nation. The whole thing of this guy

who's trying to do this. Like, we get a teaser

of the next movie at the very end of Ghost Protocol.

Which I absolutely love. I do not mind, because

we were not sure if... There was going to be

a sixth mission. I do not mind that there really

isn't kind of a tease at the end of rogue nation

We'll talk about that in a minute What would

you give? ghost protocol I give this one I Give

this one a four. It was it was better than better

than three. It was up there with one It was good

All right It is time now to go rogue. That's

right folks mission impossible rogue nation.

I Said this I believe when I wrote up my review

of the score because I've actually talked to

the composer Joe Kramer that did the comp the

the music on this one and I'll have that interview

in the interview link in the in the post for

you guys to be able to go back and listen to

that but It's interesting that they released

this in 2015 instead of 2016 I almost would have

thought that they would have released it the

20th anniversary or something. I mean, I don't

have a problem with it, I'm just saying. That's

just the way my brain thinks a lot of times.

It's like, oh, if you want to, you know, pay

tribute to when the series started. But whatever,

2015. You made it. Sounded as if I was recruiting

her for skills as a thief. Well, then I misled

you or you made the wrong assumption either way

we are Asking her to resume a prior relationship

not do anything. She hasn't already done voluntarily.

I might have No, she's got no training for this

kind of thing but to go to bed with a man and

light him She's a woman. She's got all the training

she needs I don't think I can get her to do it.

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So this one actually came out, Rogue Nation came

out July 31st, 2015. Um, okay. Weird, kinda...

Relic, and most of the movies have come out in

either May or December. I don't know, that's

a little strange to me. But, you know, we get

Rogue Nation, um, and... For me, especially having

talked with Joe Kramer. I Absolutely love this

one. This is my favorite one out of the franchise.

It really really is Because they set out to basically

Pay full homage to the old series They wanted

to really get the feel of the series down and

I think they did that with this Yeah, this is

kind of they they finally got it back down to

Here we're just gonna do a quick spy type film

and it's gonna be That we're gonna have these

spy agencies that we're dealing with and we've

got the CIA the IMF and There's infighting going

on No for some reason the shadow. I mean Alec

Baldwin shows up Hey You leave Donald Trump alone.

Oh It's gonna be huge. You leave Donald Trump

alone. Oh Lord. But yeah, Mission 5, Rogue Nation.

Absolutely love it. Think it's a great, great

film. I think this is the one where I finally

got to really enjoy Benji. Mean I've enjoyed

him in three and four but like this one kind

of had him almost at center stage a lot of the

times You know going to Vienna who's great and

him getting shot at Actually being a field agent,

you know, well he was a field agent for but you

know still yeah uh... is just so cool and i i

i i love here is the transition from whatever

he can still remember is going on with the pen

with uh... you know with with all that stuff

too to benji uh... although it was uh... was

it was it was bro you know it was brent and and

and baldwin uh... for you is that the the new

future secretary's name was in the movie, but

basically Alec Baldwin's character and Brant

are going back and forth and then we cut to Benji

and Benji's playing Halo while he's at work.

Yes. I'm trying to lie to the lie detector to

figure it out. And the lie detector even knew

because we see at the very end that there's a

little blip there. yeah I thought that was fun

the whole thing about the rogue nation about

the you know the government within the government

and things like that are these separatists and

blah blah blah this is a better version of Age

of Ultron yeah it really this is a much better

version of Age of Ultron the opening scene with

the plane I love Tom's I love his shrug at the

bad guys like just pull this cord That was kind

of interesting though at that as they said well

They discovered the bodies of all those people

there. They couldn't figure out how they had

access to it They discovered their bodies like

24 hours later. I'm like they discovered the

bodies So basically everybody who was on that

plane got killed And my first thought was was

it on purpose like did the bad guys who were

trying to get the stuff kill them or was that?

You know the CIA IMF that killed them Really

wasn't clear, but just it was one of those things

that kind of bugged me when I heard it Yeah,

I had so oh yeah, absolutely What were your overall

thoughts for this one? It was it was good. I

just I got irritated with the fact that you had

all these people who were supposed to be dead

who are all of a sudden popping up as part of

the rogue nations coming out and You know as

part of the syndicate. I just was It seemed kind

of hokey and and then of course Alec Baldwin

is there is no syndicate. There's no such thing

as a syndicate. It's all a fabrication For the

prime minister and he goes. Oh, so you mean this

syndicate blah blah blah you like you knew How

did we not know about this we're the CIA Hey

You know it just it kind of made me think of

okay you guys suck at intelligence Yeah, they

kind of do actually yeah Let's see what I love

here is Ilsa and and Ethan working together I

think that was really cool. I love when Benji

and Ethan are on the run and they kind of inadvertently

meet up with Brent and Luther and they just kind

of, I thought that scene was hilarious, they

just kind of look at each other. The four men,

no one has to say anything to each other, it's

just, let's exchange a glance and go on our merry

way. It was funny because I noticed Ethan waved.

Yeah. And then all of a sudden, like, I see Benji

and he looks and he's like, hey! Yeah. Hey! And

then, of course, you know, Big Ray was just bitching

about, had to get the 4x4. Had to have that one

here. We got a high -speed chase and we got a

4x4 we're running in. Yup. And then Brant's like,

well, you were the one that wanted the 4x4. Oh,

Lord. Oh, boy. But again, this movie is just

so fun and Joe Kramer did an amazing job with

the music He really did He managed to pull it

out. I mean it was still When I heard the theme

song because this is something that I hear the

theme song throughout and to me it's Because

of what it is because it is an iconic theme song.

Mm -hmm. You don't necessarily want to mess with

it too much and that was He's not really, well,

he didn't really mess with it. What he did was

he used various parts of it. Like he used the

beginning, he used the middle, he used the end,

or he used the, you know, whatever. Again, people

go listen to the interview that I did with Joe,

because I even asked, I asked him in the interview,

can you break it down for me how you did this?

And he kind of does go through the process of

using the classic theme, and having it enhance

the rest of the score that he made. I just think

it's the most classic score. I mean, yes, I do

still love the Adam Clayton, Larry Mullen version

of the theme, and obviously the original, but

I think Joe's is by far the best out of the other

three movies, two, three and four. Yeah, I'm

not discounting and it was it was it was good.

It was you know for me. It's gonna be one That's

my favorite mm -hmm the rogue nation there. I

probably put that I'd probably put that at at

two and then You know ghost protocol three Mission

impossible two at four and then you know three

is being five because I really kind of went you

on on three Mm -hmm Yeah But again, I cannot

wait for mission six. Oh, I hope this happens

When I looked at the information on this on again

Wikipedia folks take it with a grain of salt

But it is Wikipedia. It does say 2018. That's

technically only a year away, but damn it. It

feels like it's so long It's you know all I gotta

say Mike is it's just you and your love affair

with no It has nothing to do with the Tom Cruise

himself It has to do with the characters that

this franchise has built over the last 21 years

Like I get more enjoyment out of these movies

seeing when Luther pops up than I do Seeing when

when Ethan pops up? Yeah, you know you know you

look at the beginning of five And it's Brant

and Benji arguing back and forth, back and forth

about the package is on the plane. The package,

where's Ethan? I don't know. He's doing all this

stuff and wherever else. And then Luther from

a different country, not even there, chimes in.

What are you doing? Yeah, what are you doing

here, Luther? You're supposed to be, I am in

the place that you told me to be. But Benji needed

some tech support. And then all of a sudden,

in his classic style and fashion, Ethan shows

up. It's not... Could anyone else besides Tom

Cruise play the character of Ethan Hunt? No.

But for me, it's not solely about Tom. It's about

the character that he's playing and the actions

of that character. Like I said, Mission 6, Macquarie

is going to return to the film. to direct. I

believe Joe Kramer is coming back to do the score

for Mission 6. I'll have to ask him. I see that

it's listed here, but I don't know if that's

actually factually correct. And as I said earlier,

Mission 6 will supposedly include more backstory

to Hunt's personal life, so that's going to be

interesting. But Mission 5, absolutely loved

it. Thought it was great. What I loved about

this is the beginning of how he's getting his

information again the record player the classic

thing with the Again kind of basically making

this movie a longer version of the TV series

but basically the villain traps him in the you

know Lane traps him in the box and At the end

Lane gets put in a box of his own. I thought

that was great. Oh, yeah with it with the gas

and everything. Yeah I just, I watched and I

was kind of like, ooh, ooh, that's cold. And

I wasn't sure, did they, you know, I wasn't sure

if they killed him or if they just took him off

and, you know, or they were gonna jail him or

something? Okay, well, the way that I interpret

the end scene is Ethan jumps down the shaft and

Lane goes over there and he looks and he sees

that Ethan's just laying there. He doesn't, obviously

doesn't see the glass because Ethan is just outside

the glass. He jumps down. Ethan gets up everybody,

you know, the glass is all slide into place and

it's basically the you know, the glass proof,

you know the glass box that's that's bulletproof

and whatever like with the record store and What

they did was was they gassed him and then they

tipped him upside down And put him in the police

vehicle and took him away. I don't think the

gas killed him Yeah, because the gas didn't kill

Ethan either. I mean, if we wanted series over,

they would have killed Ethan right there in the

record store. Yeah. That was I kind of wondered

why you know if they were really gonna be this

big bad villain And they wanted him out of the

way why didn't they kill him at the beginning?

But then again there wouldn't have been a rogue

nation to go on with yep absolutely And do I

wish that there would have been some sort of

something? Leading up to whatever mission 6 is

gonna be kind of sort of but not really because

we Don't know what's gonna happen with with mission

6 whatsoever, so who knows Overall, for me, Mission

5 is by far the best. I've got to give it 5 stars

out of 5. Absolutely loved every moment of it.

I did kind of get a little bored with the water

scene, but that's only because it's not because

of the scene itself, it's because of the environment.

I've never liked underwater scenes in films a

lot of the time. But other than that, 5 out of

5 for me. What about you? I'd give it probably

a four and a half out of five just cuz that water

scene bugged the hell out of me Well, okay. I

watched it as I'm watching. Wow CG, huh? Okay

moving on, you know, it's just the whole thing

just reminded me of you know, I kept thinking

to myself Why couldn't he use some sort of scuba

tank or rebreather system to be able to hold

his breath longer than three minutes? They never

really explained that no, they did they did again.

You're not paying attention They, because of

the pressure in that thing and the alarms and

whatever else, you couldn't bring... basically

think of it as that room is magneto and you cannot

bring any plastics or you cannot bring any metals

into it. Okay? So they couldn't do plastic, they

couldn't do anything, so... and they had to...

because they had already shown her at her pool

in Casablanca holding her breath for two minutes

in the pool when he and benji show up so they

had to do something with that and yeah well i

knew that that was gonna happen i kinda got the

feeling like she was setting herself up to go

and do that job without ethan i could understand

you know if it's like okay if she's gonna go

out and do this job why does she need ethan to

get in on on all this you know that other than

the sucker him in so that she had a scapegoat

No, that's not the whole that felt like for me.

So that's that's what bothered me with that You

know Other than that it was pretty good, you

know, it was not I've seen better films. I've

seen better action films you know, but This was

for what it was. It was it was good for what

it was. Yep Alright folks, we're gonna take another

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movie we can review mission impossible the franchise

the film franchise 20 years of the IMF 21 years

the IMF and yeah absolutely love the mission

films can't wait to see what they do with six

and where they take us because if you look at

the first five films they've taken us quite literally

all over the world I don't think there's a Other

than like the North Pole or the Antarctic there

really isn't a place that they have not hit with

various missions and things like that so Now

that you've said that I have visions of the world

is not enough, you know racing across the ice

in 007 or What is the f8 whatever they're calling

it now where they've got the tank and the the

uh... sub coming out to them in the ice not having

visions of that now that you said that it's uh...

that the title of that is now changed it's uh...

the fate of the furious okay uh... call it here

is a i'm sorry yeah yeah fast eight here is a

whatever uh... But yeah, I absolutely cannot

wait coming up next here on M wire Stephen Steve

Steve Megatron is gonna be back and we're gonna

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Shay Stanley Oh Lord uh... what do you got going

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i really need to get a real that's going on well

we don't have to realize that we can still do

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