Beverly Hills Cop Franchise Review

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a little bit of supplemental episodes here and

there, and one of them was... myself, and the

two co -hosts I will introduce in a moment, talking

about Beverly Hills Cop. But apparently, my audio

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Yeah. So, 125 episodes of MWire. It's kind of

all been leading back to this. We are going to

head on out to Beverly Hills, California and

talk about Beverly Hills Cop, the franchise.

So, guys, Mike, what was the first time you ever

saw the first film? It actually wasn't until,

like, friggin', I think I was in college, actually.

College or maybe... My early 20s, the first time

I saw it. I actually saw the second one first.

Right. Yeah, I saw the second one first, then

the third, then the first one. So I saw them

in a really fucked up order. Yeah, kind of. It's

weird because a friend of mine growing up named

Breck used to record movies off his satellite

dish way back in the day at VHS. And one of the

tapes I borrowed off of had, I think, like, Enemy

Mine, The Last Starfighter, and Beverly Hills

Cop 2 on it. And it comes in halfway through

the credits for Beverly Hills Cop 2. And I'm

like, man, this song is awesome. What is this?

Why do I see Eddie Murphy's junk? Man, what the

hell? I'll just keep watching it. And it would

randomly keep me entertained on days when I was

home sick. And stuff like that. So yeah, I think

I saw Beverly Hills Cop 2, I want to say probably

like 1991? Maybe 92? And then I saw the tragedy

that was Beverly Hills Cop 3, and then it was

like years later that I saw the first one. But

actually, funny thing, I was re -watching the

first one last week. I didn't even know this

show was happening until like three hours ago.

So... I was watching it with my best friend,

Dave Double D Dennis from Twig, and we're watching

the movie, and one of the first scenes is where

the one guy gets killed, Mikey. And earlier that

day, we were watching Better Call Saul, which

is the spinoff of Breaking Bad, and we're like,

holy fuck, that's Mike Ehrman drowned! Because

we're like, he's one of the mob hitmen. We're

like, man, am I thinking of Beverly Hills Cop

as a Breaking Bad prequel? this this got 10 times

more awesome but yeah it was really cool just

going back and re -watching the first one recently

um because that movie i think in a lot of ways

is the perfect 1980s action flick in a lot of

ways because it has that comedy yet action kind

of running through it yeah and man i kind of

wish me and dave did a commentary for that movie

but with the beverly hills movies In my opinion,

the first two are so well done, I kind of hope

they get preserved at some point in the Library

of Congress. Because I think they're perfect

examples of American action comedy from the 1980s.

I can't think of anything else, really, that

comes to my mind that's that funny, that action

-packed, and has that memorable a character.

What about Police Academy? See, what I think

of in action comedies, I think Axel Foley, not

Mahoney. Although, Hackleberry would have been

awesome as a side character in Beverly Hills

Cop. Man, they should have did a crossover. They

probably would have saved the franchise. Even

if it was just like a five minute, like he goes

to the police academy, he's like, all these white

motherfuckers, look at this. Look at this asshole.

And he goes up to the common doctor or something.

See, that would have been hilarious. Man. I want

to see this. Now I need to go back in time and

convince Don Simpson and all those people, okay,

guys, this is our plan to convince Andy Murphy

to not do Pluto Nash and do this instead. Yeah.

What about you, Steve? What's your experience

with these three films? I think I saw them in

about the same order as Don here. Oh, man. I

could be wrong. Such a good entry point, though.

I think I was 12 when I saw these. I couldn't

tell you what year it was. It was probably 98

or something like that. 97, 98. Something in

there. I don't know. You were 12 in 98? Yes,

he was. Oh, my God. I feel fucking old now. Thanks.

Hey, when I was 12, I was playing Beast Wars

on MSN Gaming Zone. Kicking ass. How old are

you? He's 28. Oh, eat shit, dude. It's mighty

clean over here. No, but I remember watching

these movies with my dad, and I think I wouldn't

have had the great appreciation for 80s cinema

and action and comedy if it weren't for... for

my dad because he he he had me watch die hard

he had me watch beverly hills cop he had me watch

uh lethal weapon i mean so between all of these

great you know action franchises of the 80s that

kind of made it into the 90s even though there

was like gaps between them um i have to kind

of attribute it to that that because of him but

So I remember watching the second one first and

then the third one and then the first one. But

to me, say what you will about the third one,

I still enjoy it for what it is, and it's still

Eddie Murphy in there playing Axel Foley. And

it's funny because it's about the same timing

distance as Die Hard 2 -3. Yeah. When they did

Beverly Hills Cop 2 -3. So I'm thinking that...

Hmm, somebody had an idea here. Let's have them

come out right around the same time. All three

times. Although Die Hard with a Vengeance is

arguably a much better movie than Beverly Hills

Cop. Oh, I won't argue with you. I love that

movie. Oh, yeah. No, that... It's one great little...

Oh, sorry, Steve. I'm sorry. I was going to say

it's great because it's got Sam Jackson in it

and it's the original... the guy that did the

first film, so... There was something in Beverly

Hills Cop 3 I didn't catch till this past week.

There's a point where he's in the okie -dokie

costume, the fucking elephant, and the little

kid kicks him in the nuts. I didn't catch this

the first time I saw it. He's like, oh, you little

motherfucker, I'm gonna fucking get you. And

he says it so fast. I was watching that with

Dave. I think we had to pause the movie for like

10 minutes. I was on the floor laughing so hard,

and because I'm a fat fuck, I couldn't get up.

I was laughing so friggin' hard. There's something

about Eddie Murphy, when he talks super fast,

it's hilarious to me. I would love to hear him

just order fast food in a sarcastic, fast voice.

I have a feeling it would be friggin' hilarious.

I want a cheeseburger, but not the kind of cheeseburger

I want with this on it. And arguably, that movie,

I have a feeling... Actually, no, it's funny.

I was actually reading something about this just

recently. I think it was last month he said this.

That's one of the movies he's actually publicly

said he didn't like and distances himself from.

You mean the third Beverly Hills Cop movie? Yeah,

which is really weird because, I mean, it's not

great. It's not fucking terrible either. It's

watchable, but it just... It's totally all over

the place. I guess we'll get into that when we

talk about it. Yeah, we'll get into that. As

far as me, I must have seen the second one when

I was 9 or 10, so around 89 or 90. I saw the

first one after that, and then I had seen the

third one. I want to say I almost think I saw

it in theaters. I don't think so, but I swear

I could have. Because for some odd reason, I

remember a giant -sized okie -dokie on the screen.

I love the second one. The second one is by far

my favorite. The first one I do like. I do like

it for a lot of the quips, but the second one

by far is the best one out of the three for me.

It just really, really is. It's the most fun

of all three. Yeah. So that's our history with

the franchise. Now we're going to get into each

of the movies separately, talk about their plot,

whether we still like them or don't, or if there's

anything we notice on rewatches that we don't

particularly care for, we'll talk about the casts

and all that good stuff. So first up is Beverly

Hills Cop after this. Eddie Murphy is a Detroit

cop on vacation in Beverly Hills. I just got

off the phone with Inspector Todd in Detroit.

He says if you're out here investigating the

Tandino murder, you needn't bother coming back.

I don't want to take it anymore. The man who

claims to be on vacation, you look a lot like

you're on a stakeout. Stakeout? No, no. I'm picnicking.

This is like a picnic area. I have to ask you

some questions about Michael Tandino. I've never

been to a cell that had foam in it. Can I stay

for a while because I ordered some pizza? We

have six witnesses that say you broke in and

started tearing up the place, then jumped out

the window. May I help you? Yeah. I'm looking

for Victor Meadman. I have nothing to say to

you. How you doing? You guys don't know nothing

about nothing, do you? You just got your badges

and your guns and you're on the job, right? Make

sure we get the right drinks because if I drink

club soda, I'll throw up. You know, this is the

cleanest and nicest police car I've ever been

in in my life. This thing's nicer than my apartment.

Bitches, bitch. Seems painfully obvious you haven't

the slightest idea who you're dealing with. I

know what y 'all think I am, taking some kind

of food. Hurry up, quicker! Crawl back to your

little stone in Detroit before you get squashed.

All right, folks. First up is Beverly Hills Cop.

Came out in 1984. December 5th, 1984 to be exact.

It had a budget of $15 million and made over

$300 million. Jesus, for 1984? That's insane.

Yeah. It is the first movie in the franchise,

obviously, starring Eddie Murphy, Judge Reinhold,

John Ashton, Lisa Ellbacher, Ronnie Cox, Stephen

Berkoff, James Russo, Jonathan Banks, Stephen

Elliott, Gil Hill, and others. Basically, the

overall plot of this film is where Axel Foley,

he's a hotshot cop in Detroit. He's one of the,

he's kind of like, I don't know if I want to

say this or not, but he's kind of like the black

version of Riggs, honestly. He's very much a

hotshot cop. He pretty much does deals however

he wants them to his inspector Todd's dismay.

You also have Paul Reiser in this movie as Jeffrey.

And every time I see Paul Reiser, I'm thinking,

my God, that's the guy from Mad About You. Not

that that's a bad thing or anything, but I'm

like, what the hell? I do remember the very first

time I saw the second movie, because I saw it,

as I said in the beginning of the podcast, I

saw that one first. I was like, what the hell

is Paul Reiser doing in this film? Axel's buddy

Mikey comes to town and ends up getting shot,

and he has to then investigate and goes out to

Beverly Hills, finds his friend Jenny. She's

working at this art gallery owned by Victor Maitland.

And the Beverly Hills Police Department, they

are super prim and proper. They're super polite.

It's not the nitty -gritty that Detroit is. It

just isn't. There's no way RoboCop could work

at the Beverly Hills Police Department. And throughout

Axel's adventures, he runs into Billy Rosewood

and John Taggart, and they have adventures all

over town. He sends them, what is it, shrimp

salad? He sends them a shrimp salad sandwich,

and he uses the banana in the tailpipe to...

choke out their car yeah i love this movie i

really do this movie is such a classic film it's

so 80s in such a good way um they have and throughout

this whole time inspector todd doesn't know he's

even good that he's even gone anywhere because

he has this whole scheme of of keeping todd out

of the loop and that will play actually more

into the second film In the beginning of the

movie, there's a scene where he's trying to stop

some criminals with a cigarette truck. And I

love how when we get to the second film, they

reference that and bring that back. Overall,

I love the plot. I love the acting. There's not

really anything I could nitpick here. that I

could say that doesn't make any sense. Steve,

what are your thoughts on the first film? Well,

I think the first film, obviously it's one of

the strongest ones, but the funny thing is with

such a small budget and doing that amount of

money, it's insane. Who would have thought that

film could be shot on $15 million? Which, granted,

back then it was probably the equivalent of $30

million now, but still, that's still not a lot

of money for what they made in return on it.

There's just so many great moments in that movie.

I mean, you've already mentioned the one with

the tailpipe and the food. You know, him kind

of driving around in that convertible like a

hot shot. I just love how his kind of Detroit

-ish mannerisms of how he's just constantly in

their face and just a royal pain in the ass,

kind of like somebody from Michigan would be.

I mean, it's true. We're pretty much blunt and

get in your face. That's how we are. So it's

just funny watching that. And then you've got,

of course, the Eddie Murphy -isms in the entire

film. So that just adds on to that dynamic. And

I love the duo of Rosewood and Taggart. Yeah.

Taggart just being that kind of... Oh my God,

just leave me the hell alone. You know, he's

like, let's just do this. He's, he's almost,

I would equate him to being like, um, uh, what's

his name? Um, Bullock. Yeah. And, and, you know,

Gotham. That's, that's basically what I would

equate him to. It's, he's such a basically lazy

cop. And then you've got, you know rosewood which

is like gordon you know like oh that's we got

to do this we got to do this except he's like

totally inexperienced so so basically he's he's

just believing everything and that's why axel

is managing to get one over on him all the time

i almost want to compare uh taggart and rosewood

i really hate to say this but it's almost like

they're Cop versions of Archie Bunker and Meathead.

I can see that. I mean, because Taggart is one

of these people. He's trying to follow the rules.

He wants to follow the rules. He's one of these

non -rule breakers. And Billy, he just doesn't.

I mean, he cares, obviously, but he also wants

to get the job done. And he wants to play with

the toys. That's, yeah. I know. That's not this

film, but still. Yeah. Jesus, Billy, we really

got to talk. You have to put that in. Anything

else, Steve? What's his name? Satterge. Ronnie

Cox. Ronnie Cox, yeah. He's... He's freaking

hilarious in this, just having to deal with the

problems of Foley and take him back to the airport,

send him home. I thought I sent you home. And

I love the end of the movie where he's trying

to explain this to the chief and the chief's

like, Sergeant Taggart, why don't you just tell

me what happened? Happened like the chief said.

Happened like the lieutenant said, chief. You

expect me. I just love Ronnie Cox's explanation

of how he's working on the fly. You want to talk

about improv? Steve, that's the scene you need

to study to come up with stuff on the fly. You

need to study Bogomil. Watch that scene again.

Watch their hands. right because they're trying

so hard not to laugh you can actually see he's

pinching his thigh he's trying so hard not to

laugh and uh ronnie cox he's scrunching his hands

up so much like he's trying to put pain in his

hands to just make up bullshit but yeah like

that that improv scene one of the best in the

series Oh, absolutely. Yeah, the funny thing

about that is I'm starting to realize a lot of

those kind of actor -isms that you see in film

because I'm taking an acting class. So it's funny

watching films and seeing those kind of things.

And I'm kind of glad you brought it up because

we're trying to come up with ways to not show

it as much. And normally people don't notice

the hands as much. When it's, you know, there's

a lot more going on above. But if you're kind

of looking at the broad picture there, it is

noticeable. Because they're trying to teach us

not to fiddle with our hands while we're doing

lines or doing scenes. Because it's actually

quite freaking difficult to do when you're either

A, nervous, or you're trying to stop from doing

a natural reaction to something because you're

thinking about it instead of doing it. Mm -hmm.

What about you, Mike? What are your thoughts

on the first film here? First film, the first

time I saw it, I wasn't a huge fan because it

wasn't as fun as the second one. But going back

and re -watching it recently, like I said earlier,

it's such a great example of the 1980s cop comedy.

And it has just enough tone of seriousness. the

push the plot forward, always trying to solve

his friend's murder. And it has just enough lightheartedness

to keep you entertained and to keep you laughing.

And I don't know, I think it's a wonderful performance

by Murphy, John Ashton, and Judge Reinhold. The

chemistry between those three, that's some of

the, like, when I think of cop movies, some people

might argue Lethal Weapon or Police Academy,

but I really think of this one first. Because

like you said, you got... by the book tag or

youthful but inexperienced Rosewood. And then

I'm going to do whatever the hell I want, Axel

Foley. He's not an asshole about it, but he,

you know, there's a job that has to get done.

It doesn't matter how it gets done, it's got

to get done. And if I did have one weak point

in this movie, I'd say Victor Maitland, Stephen,

I can't remember his last name. Let's see. Stephen

Elliott. Stephen Berkoff. Yeah, Stephen Berkoff,

there you go. He's said to hate this movie, by

the way, which kind of surprises me, but I think

he was kind of a weak point as a bad guy. I think

the ones in number two were a lot more memorable,

but that aside, everything in this movie, I think,

works in just the right ways. Plus, the obviously

super -by -the -book police captain. He expects

everything to be done and every I dotted and

T's crossed, whatever. I really like his interaction.

I like, we just talked about the Ronnie Cox scene.

Yeah. I mean, what really happened detecting.

I love that. Just that weird accent that guy's

got. Um, but no, seriously, it's a, it's a great

movie. Great soundtrack to it. You've actually

listened to it. And, uh, I think, I honestly

think. Yeah, I honestly think that's why you

think of this movie first, is because of Harold

Faltermeyer and the Axel F theme. Yeah, and that's,

and I remember this charting for a while, and

then randomly the fucking crazy frog did it or

something. Yeah, there were multiple versions

of the Axel F theme. This was my ringtone for

like three years when I was like a teenager.

I loved it so much. I mean, my God. But yeah,

I mean, ultimately so much went right with this.

Obviously did well enough to do a sequel because

1984 was a big year at, you know, the movies.

Absolutely. And just, man, I mean, Eddie Murphy's

natural charisma in this movie, it oozes right

off the screen because reading some of the IMDb

facts for this, he improvised and just made up

shit as he went along. And it takes a certain

type of person to improv and to keep a scene

going forward like that to make the script work,

to make the other actors work with you. And Eddie

Murphy is at his best when he's just allowed

to just let him off the leash. Don't let him

run out of the yard, but let him off the leash

and let's see what happens. And in this, he proved

to be one of the best comedic actors of that

year for sure. Absolutely. Yeah, this movie was

just so good. I will say that, yes, Victor Maitland

didn't seem like a... A decent enough bad guy,

but for the 80s and for... Back in the 80s, the

whole mob angle and a drug runner or an arms

dealer wasn't that much of a reused plot, especially

in 84. Yeah, because this was actually getting

up the war on drugs thing. Right, right. So,

I mean, I can see why they did this with Victor

Maitland, and it was a way for... how else were

you going to get Axel out to Beverly Hills? You

had to find a reason for him to go out there.

And if his friend Mikey, who came from there

to see him, gets killed in Detroit, then that's

the obvious way to get him out there. Another

one of my favorite scenes, before we move on

to the second film in a moment here, when he

goes into the brunch or the buffet, oh my God,

this is so hilarious. that whole scene where

they tear up that poor restaurant. Oh, man. All

right, folks, we're going to take another quick

break, come back, and talk about Beverly Hills

Cop 2 after this. All of you eat the floor! Now!

Go! Axel Foley is back. Who is he? I'd say he's

a cop. This is a Detroit badge. What the hell

are you doing in Beverly Hills? I'm going deep,

deep, deep, deep undercover. Back where he doesn't

belong. Excuse me, we're the owners of this house.

They're in Hawaii for a week while the construction's

happening. I'm Axel Foley, Beverly Hills building

inspector. You've stolen this house. How do you

steal a house? It's my uncle's house. reunited

with all his old buddies. What the hell's going

on here? Who the hell are you? I'm Johnny Wishbone,

psychic extraordinaire. If you need me, just

think Johnny Wishbone and I come running. Lots

and bits. It's like kibbles and bits, but different.

Oh, this is a big mistake, a big mistake. Would

you lighten up and take some risks? This is definitely

breaking the law. So how long would it take to

shave those legs anyway? I suppose you're trying

to be charming. Actually, I'm just offering my

grooming services. Get out of here, you degenerate.

I want you out of here. Is this a black thing?

Hey, say no more. You're going to break it. I

need authorization. Are we having a problem here?

You have to. And this is Max. And Max kills cops

for... Alright folks, three years later in 1987

we were given Beverly Hills Cop 2. This by far

is the best out of the three, at least in my

personal opinion. This had a budget of $20 million

and took in just under $300 million. This one

opens up with... Beverly Hills Police Captain

Andrew Bogumel, Detective Billy Rosewood, and

Sergeant John Taggart are trying to figure out

who is behind the alphabet crimes. It's kind

of like Alphabet Soup and McGruff the Crime Dog

kind of joined forces in this one. Machine guns.

Yeah. So they're trying to figure out who the

alphabet bandit is. The B crime is apparently

dealing with Bogomil because apparently he has

been doing some sleuthing to find out who these

alphabet killers are. So the B crime is probably

in her best role ever. Bridget Nielsen as Carla.

She basically shoots and potentially kills Bogomil.

And he gets put in the hospital. We then cut

to Detroit, where Axel is waiting on a bunch

of credit card schemers. And this is the scene

where we get the whole reference to the cigarette

truck. And I absolutely... What the fuck are

you? That's that fucking guy from the day, the

cigarettes. I told you about him. Man, take off

your glasses. I just absolutely love Eddie Murphy

in this movie. You know, so they have all this

stuff, and they have this character named Ace,

and we see Ace later because Axel won't do business

with him in front of his nephew there. So we

have that going on. And then Jen, Bogumil's daughter,

calls Axel in tears. And that's how he gets out

to California this time. And what's so great

about this is he actually goes to Inspector Todd

and asks him, look, I need requisition money.

I need another blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Look at all these requisition slips. Look at

all this stuff, Axel. When am I going to see

some arrest slips? I promise. I just need a little

flash money and flash money. Gil Hill was absolutely

amazing in that role. Which is funny because

he was an actual cop. Which is amazing. He's

still alive. I don't know whether he's still

a police officer or a police something or other.

He's only ever acted in three movies and he's

a legit police officer. I thought he was scary

as fuck. I wouldn't want that man to yell at

me. No. Not at all. I believe, I could be wrong,

but wasn't he the mayor of Detroit at one point,

or didn't he run for the mayor of Detroit? I

think he ran for that, or he's like a police

association's lead guy or something like that.

Anyway, important, scary, and in authority. Yeah,

I mean, you're right. He only did the Beverly

Hills Cop movies as an actor. That was it. Uh,

so Axel goes out to, to Beverly Hills and this

is where that classic drive down, down the Beverly

Hills Boulevard or whatever street it is with

the tree, the, the, the palm trees and all this

and all that. And that, that, that classic song

comes up and he's watching, you know, the woman

Walker dog and watching all this stuff and, and

everything. And for some odd reason, he finds

this, uh, house that's being worked on. And he

scams the workers out of working on the house.

He essentially steals a house. Which is great.

Well, later in the film when we meet up with...

I'm jumping ahead of myself here, but I said

it that way because I wanted to bring this up.

Because later in the film, Taggart and Rosewood

come over there and he's like, Axel has stolen

this house. You've stolen this house. How the

fuck do you steal a house? go upstairs get your

nicknames full with me oh my god um so he's out

there and he goes and checks in with with jen

at the hospital and sees that bogomil's kind

of really in bad shape and wants to catch the

guy since the last time we were in beverly hills

three years ago uh from 84 The whole climate

has changed. It's all political now. And there's

a new police chief, Harold Lutz, and his putz

assistant, Doyle, or whatever his name is. I

don't remember off the top of my head. It is

Police Lutz. Yeah. Yeah, so Chief Harold Lutz.

And Chief Lutz is the most abusive police chief

I have ever seen in film or on television. Because

he's always yelling. At least he's not the one

that works at Bed Bath & Beyond part -time. Wait,

what? Have you seen that movie? The Other Guys?

No, I have not seen The Other Guys. Michael Keaton.

He's the police chief and he works at Bed Bath

& Beyond as a manager. Over Will Ferrell and

Mark Wahlberg. Oh, my God. A polar opposite.

Oh, Lord. So he goes to the police station and

finds out they can't do anything. He goes to

Bogomil's house and investigates stuff and finds

that his sneakers have red mud or whatever, and

there's nothing like it around Bogomil's house.

He goes and talks to Jen. I can never figure

it out. I can never figure out from hearing them

in the movie if her name was Jen or Jan. Why

is it Jan? Yeah. He goes to see her and talk

to her about what... what Volgamil had been up

to and all that. And she works for an insurance

company, so she's going to look into the contacts

there. They end up going to the Beverly Hills

Gun Club because they find a .308 rifle cut down

to fit at a .44. And this is where they meet

Carla. This is where Axel meets Carla. And hot

damn. He meets Carla. If that woman hadn't wasted

her life with drugs. Damn, Bridget Nielsen would

look amazing today. So we get to the gun club.

What do we think of the film up to the gun club

scene, Mike? Sorry. Okay. All right, so what

do you want me to talk about? Sorry, I kind of

gapped out there. Literally, I was thinking about

the guns from the movie. Sure you were. Actually,

no, I'm actually not kidding. It was this movie

and Robocop that made me love guns. I'm sad,

actually. And now he plays with lightsabers and

real lasers and all this other crap that he shouldn't

have. It's funny, because when they talk about

the .308 shell being cut down to fit the .44

auto mag, when I was a kid, I'm like, you can

do that? I started reading up about guns, and

at that time I had a friend of mine, Liam, who

was in the Army Cadets. and we started reading

gun books like man you can do all sorts of cool

shit too bad we live in canada um but uh yeah

it was just i always thought that was really

cool plus having uh stockwell that man should

be in like everything as like a toady um oh yeah

that's right it was dean scott is is is chip

cane yeah he's just slimy enough but also refined

enough I don't know to me he'd be like an awesome

James Bond villain lackey but that's neither

here nor there um you should probably keep going

because I'm having visions of Dean Stockwell

right now oh good lord just saying if I was that

way so I do think it's funny that Axel manages

to figure out all these things that the Beverly

Hills cops can't yeah it's weird because Because

they tend to rely more on their technology than

their perception. Like, think back to the fingerprint

trick. Oh, yeah. And he's like, yeah, this is

like an old Detroit street crime trick that we

used to do. And I'm thinking, man, that's really

freaking clever. I don't know whether that actually

works, though. I'd be curious, because the science

sounds right, but I don't know. If that's true,

that's really neat. Somebody call Sheldon Cooper.

We need to know if the science is sound. Mythbusters.

Mythbusters. Oh, Lord. So after the gun club

scene, I actually know it's really funny how

he gets into the gun club to even see the shooting

range is he takes Rosewood's vitamins. Oh, it

fakes the girl. I'm telling her it's like high

explosives or something. Yeah. He's like, you

want my vitamins? You want all my vitamins? Yeah,

give them to me. And he, because this gun club

is so high class, it's Beverly Hills, they have,

you know, wine and whatever else or whatever

the hell it is. And he splashes his face with

it. He's like, yes, it is a 73. So he doesn't,

it's so he can show her that he's sweating. I'm

from Metalux research industry and blah, blah,

blah. I don't have any delivery, blah, blah,

blah. And he talks about, was it Moopsie and

Boopsie or something? My twin daughters with

pigtails. $20? I have twin daughters. Blah, blah,

blah, blah, blah. So he gets past her. He goes

downstairs to the gun range and basically just

throws the vitamins out. As he exits that, Billy's

like, hey, where are my vitamins? Here's $20.

What do you do, sell them? So as we go along,

we have the A crime, which is the Adrianos robbery,

which is a jewelry store. And they get in and

out of there under a minute 30, or two minutes,

or whatever it's supposed to be. Then they killed

Bogomil. The C crime... is City Deposit. They

do that one. The E crime is the racetrack. And

they're up to the F crime, but it doesn't actually

happen because they actually foiled the C and

D crime right there. I love how we have them

tracking everybody from the racetrack crime.

in in the truck and it's like oh the truck's

been abandoned what did they take they must have

took something oh they left in these cars and

how are we gonna get there to catch them and

you know billy find some whales well this is

sporty it was all i could find he finds a cement

truck And hilarity ensues, and the trail leads

them to the Playboy Mansion. Of course it does.

Check this out. I get $5 for cars, $10 for cars,

$20 for limos. What the fuck is this? It's a

cement truck. Park it. Here's $50. Park it next

to a limo. You have Chris fucking rock as the

valet. His first on -screen movie. Yep. That's

why he had to reintroduce Eddie Murphy into Saturday

Night Live. Oh, don't even bring that up. What

a waste of time. So, as... At the Bank Depot

job... What's his name? Max. Maxwell Dent is

one of the main villains here. He tells Carla

to set it up to make it look like Kane did it,

and basically they kill Dean Stockwell's character.

And they make the police chief look like an idiot,

because he believes, you know... the latest note

about how Charles is supposedly, you know, the

alphabet killer. And Foley's like, well, if Kane's

the man, where's the money? You always gotta

follow the money. So, they get to the Playboy

Mansion, and you cannot have the Playboy Mansion

in a movie without having Hef in it. And this

is no Stan Lee copycat, Hugh Hefner. This is

the real Hugh Hefner, people. And I just love

Hef's appearance. He's like, well, I don't know

him, and I don't know them either. I think all

of you should leave. This is so hilarious. Throughout

the whole movie, we have Billy's infatuation

with weapons. And at one point, they go back

to his apartment, and Axel goes to make a call,

and he closes the bedroom door, and Billy's,

you know, he's ready for World War III, essentially.

I think probably what Mike will point out about

that scene more than the guns is... Rambo and

the Cobra posters? No, no. It's Big Al. Where

is his dick at? Come on, Big Al, you know where

your dick is. Oh, God. That turtle's probably

still alive. Oh, damn. So, we get to a point

where we find out that Bogomil is getting better.

And I kind of skipped over one scene, one of

the best scenes in the entire movie, where we

have the Affleck duck. Oh, my God. And, you know,

there are 50 tickets here, sir. You own a black

Mercedes XL. That's my wife's car. Yeah, I don't

drive it. That's my wife's car. Bitch! It's like,

oh, my God. Gilbert Gottfried and Eddie Murphy

acting together is simply amazing. And then Gilbert's

like, oh, well, you know, what if you had something

in this hand that would kind of make you forget

about what you had in this hand? And Axel's like,

you mean tell me if I had $200 in this hand?

Ouch, let go of my arm. And you just see Rosewood

and Taggart just put their sunglasses on and

walk away. I love this movie. Steve, what are

your thoughts on this one? Well, for one, I love

the dynamic, again, as usual. And then I also

love the fact that Billy's just freaking crazy

with his freaking gun collection. I mean, that's

one of the main things, but I love the fact that,

you know... A lot of the stuff, I mean, you've

already brought it up when you were going through

your synopsis of the film, you know, the stealing

the house and then him pretending to be FBI and

then him psyching out people to get into the

gun club. Oh, I didn't even mention. I am Johnny

Wishbone. You know what's funny? I've actually

used that online alias when I was younger. Did

anybody catch it? And it's funny, like, honestly,

when I have to use a fake name, that's my default

go -to every time. Especially a Johnny Wishbone.

And no one questions it. It's fucking great.

If you ever get nailed from a Johnny Wishbone,

it's probably me. Nobody wants your Wishbone.

That's what I should have done. But, uh... But,

no, I mean, I... I mean, I, I use like one, two,

three runaway road when I, I do a street that

I don't want to have to give somebody, um, just

cause it's funny. Um, so I, I don't know. I just,

I love, I think this is actually one of the strongest

out of the three just because, I mean, the villains

are better. The, the kind of, uh, the police

works better. The I mean, they didn't really

spend any more on the film than they did on the

previous one, really. I mean, it was like $5

million more. So, I mean, I find this one the

most rewatchable out of the three. Oh, yeah.

Because there's so much more comedy in this one.

I didn't even bring up President Gerald Ford

in 385 North. I used to, when I was a late teenager,

like between 17 and 20, when, you know, anyone

would ever say something about something costing

$7, I always used to bring up the line, $7 for

a Coke? I can get blown for $7. Well, you know,

Mike, so have I. Yeah, I... What? Use that line.

I'm like, $7? Let me get blown for $7. I think

I've actually used that at the bar when I was

a kid. It's a line from the club scene. Oh, I

know that. I was being facetious with the joke.

What else about this one? So Billy's... So the

final scene, and I'm doing this all from memory,

folks. The final scene, the final showdown here.

They go to... uh dense oil field because that's

where the the horse used to graze and that's

how the horse got all the mud on its on its hooves

um they go to the oil field and axel's just ready

to go in there with his gun he doesn't need anything

else and and billy you know opens up trunk taggers

like come on billy let's go and billy puts on

this giant trench coat and gets all these weapons

and he's like i've been wanting to wear this

for a while sarge Jesus, Billy. Fuck Rambo. Yeah,

fuck Rambo. And they go in and they have one

hell of a blowout. And in the middle of all this,

because these guys are weapons dealers, Billy

finds a couple of grenades and a rocket launcher

and the truck is, at one point in the movie,

the truck is leaving and Billy's like, hmm, I

need to stop that truck. I assume he was reading

instructions off of the rocket launcher. I don't

think he was just saying what was in the script.

I actually think there were printed instructions

on that rocket launcher because the way he's

looking at it and the way he's talking is like,

you know, extend here, push this, and he's like,

whoa. Yeah, because basically he's using a dumb

rocket. I think that's a law rocket. And literally,

yeah, those instructions are printed on the side

so you know how to use it. One thing I like is

how Taggart hands him a rocket -propelled grenade.

He's like, here, you probably don't have one

of these. And he puts it in his pocket. And then...

This is movie magic. I love this. How he's literally

firing shotguns with both hands. First off, yeah,

no. And then Taggart has this huge auto shotgun,

which if you want to cut a person in half, you

use that. But yeah, there's so many cool things

about that gunfight, especially when he goes

up to the guard that he interrogates. He's like,

do you like rap music? And he's like, yes, I

like rap. He's like, smile for me. I'm smiling.

Now say, yo, baby, yo, baby, yo. And then, you

know. rosewood hits him in the back of the head

he's like ow of that suit so awesome so yeah

there's so much about that ending i like and

then when the mayor of beverly hills fires chief

lutz he's like you're an asshole you're fired

get out of here and oh yeah you're his friend

yeah you're fired too but i didn't do anything

don't care you suck my association Are they civilians

now? You bet. I'm going to kick your ass later.

And then the ending. Bogomil is okay. He's alive.

He gets promoted chief. And they want to escort

Axel out of town, or they want to help him to

the airport. He's like, no, I got it, I got it.

He said, is there anything we can do for you?

Oh, just look after my uncle's house. That's

not really your uncle's house, is it, Axel? You're

sure it is. Trust me. And this... Earl... Middle...

I don't want to say late middle age, but close

to middle of middle age couple comes up. And

the movie ends with, Who are you guys? Who's

that black guy? And you see him just turn around

and just smile and the music kicks in. That classic

80s freeze frame. Yeah, uh -huh. I need to bring

that back just for comedic moments and modern.

I love that. And that to me, that that's a feel

good shot to an ending to a movie. And I know

that's totally nostalgia talking, but I love

that. Just that smile and that play the music

over it. It honestly needs, needs to come back.

Actually. So I was doing a little bit of reading

while we're having this discussion here. You

realize this movie was nominated for a fucking

Oscar. Yep. For the song Shakedown, which is

never play that song in a car when driving. You

will drive about 50 % faster every time. I've

almost gotten speeding tickets while listening

to this song. I just want to go fast! I've got

a problem with fast music anyway. Oh my god.

But it's so cool that they got Harold F. to come

back and do the score for this. They were going

to get Hans Zimmerman, oddly enough. Hans Zimmerman.

It wasn't a name at the time. Really weird. I

wonder how epic this would have sounded. Barely

Helps Cop 2, I think, is the strongest of the

series. One of the best movies to come out of

the 80s. And one of those rare times where a

sequel is better than the original. Oh yeah,

absolutely. All the chemistry in this movie.

works. The villains are more memorable, a better

cast. Although, arguably, you don't see a lot

of the arms dealer, although he's the dude, he's

like the police captain from CSI, a little random

trivia. Inside Vegas. And just everybody works.

I don't think there are very many underutilized

characters. No. It would have been nice to get

a little more Ronnie Cox, but considering we

got a shit ton of Taggart and Rosewood and how

funny they are playing off each other, I would

actually very much credit this movie with defining

my vocabulary in the 90s to now. Because I use

terms like I need flash money, Johnny Wishbone,

that Axel Foley attitude. I think I picked up

in the 90s from this so very much. It's probably

why I pissed a lot of people off. Yeah, there's

something about this movie. It works. And the

weird thing is, it's the shortest of the three.

But that's probably why it's the best paced.

This is a movie that, I think, Steve, you said

you can watch over and over again easy. And it

flows so quick. Before you know it, it's over.

And it's a feel -good ride. like you're never

left bored you're never left oh when is this

going to end you're always entertained you're

always laughing or you're excited you're engaged

and this is like i said well one of those rare

movies like that's superior to the original and

i hope in some capacity it gets preserved because

i really think it's one of the best examples

of 1980s filmmaking i'm probably really overselling

it no i know you're right i can't think of another

buddy comedy that I enjoyed this much. And I

like lethal weapon. I like police Academy and

shit like that. But if I had to pick any movie,

it's always going to be Beverly Hills cop too.

If I had to pick it in this genre. Absolutely.

The strangest thing for me on the awards is that

it won a Razzie for worst original song for George

Michaels. I want your sex. Where was that in

the movie? Um, oh where was it uh it was at the

it was at uh 385 north it was at the strip club

oh yeah yeah that song sucks all right folks

we're gonna take one more break here and we're

gonna come back and talk about beverly hills

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To continue this message in English, press one

pound. If you have homeless people on your lawn,

press two stars. So what brings you to California,

Axel? Vacation? I'm looking for a killer. One,

please. We got some evidence that points to one

in the world. Thank you. Thank you. You mean

Rufus Rabbit has gone berserk? You got yourself

in the middle of a federal investigation. And

then a guy killed a police officer. He killed

a friend of mine. You just keep him out of my

face and out of my park. Ladies and gentlemen,

it is a tremendous surprise for Mr. DeWall to

have me standing right next to him right now.

You know, right now I can feel his body tingling.

Bring that man down. Code red on the spider.

Hold on tight. Axel. Hey, hey, hey. Officers,

I want this man arrested. I'm sure you can explain

everything, or maybe you can't explain anything.

You're going back to Detroit. You've got to turn

yourself in, man. Why is it so hard for you all

to see there's something rotten going on at that

park? Kill him. Go, go, go! I believe in Ahmed!

I'm waiting for you. How you doing? Surge, right?

It is time, folks. Beverly Hills Cop 3, 1994.

Action comedy film starring Eddie Murphy and

directed by John Landis, who had previously worked

with Murphy on Trading Places and Coming to America.

But you'd think this would be a good combination.

Yeah, no. See, everything has changed in this

film. This is why I don't like this movie. I'll

say this right now. Rosewood is still there.

That's all well and good. They've promoted him.

They've given him way too much power and it's

gone to his head. Taggart retired and went to

Arizona. And as much as I like Hector Elizondo,

they bring him in to play John something or Detective

John Flint. They should have got Arnold in there

and just said Detective John Kimball. Another

awesome crossover that we were sadly denied.

I'm a cop, you idiot. I think. Two episodes from

now, when we do episode 127, we're going to have

to do Kindergarten Cop. I love that film. I fucking

love that movie. My wife doesn't understand the

greatness that is that film. I had to own it.

We'll talk about that off air. So, Beverly Hills

Cop 3. Basically, Ellis DeWalt played by... Oh,

boy. Who's he played by? Damn it, where is that

name? Timothy Carhart is in Detroit. He's another

one of these shady dealers. And this time it's

not drugs, it's not weapons. It's counterfeit

money. And Inspector Todd is following him around

and trying to stop this money laundering scheme

that he's got going. And he shoots Inspector

Todd. So, Gil Hill. Pretty much dies in this

movie. And this then, you know, DeWald flees

to California. Axel gives chase. And we run back

into Billy and... And I think first, don't we

run into Serge first? Because we didn't really

talk about Bronson Pinshot from the first film.

I think he runs into Serge later when he goes

to... Yeah, when he gets the boombox. Yeah, that's

right, that's right, that's right. Yeah. So he

goes out to California. He goes to the Beverly

Hills Police Department and, you know... It's

all automated now, and like we've already said,

they prefer their technology over real police

work. And Billy is this DDJJIOCI. I don't even

know, folks. He loves his new position of power.

Yeah, he's got one of the longest job titles

I have ever seen. And he tells Axel that he's

out there to find Todd's killer, and somehow

it leads him to the local ripoff of Disneyland.

And it leads him to Uncle Dave Thornton. Now,

that reminds me of Wally World more than anything

else. Okay, well... Once again, if we could cross

the Griswold... If they happen to be walking

in the background, like, and said, oh, look,

Helen, and then said, you know, and pointed at

him. That would be hilarious. I mean, even just

for, like, a five -second gag. Yeah. I mean,

the place is called Wonder World, so, yeah, it

probably is more of a Wally World reference than

anything else. I just figured, you know, California,

Disneyland, whatever. The sad thing is Uncle

Dave Thornton reminds me so much of Dave Thomas,

the Wendy's guy. I was going to say that. So,

throughout the movie we find that Ellis DeWalt

shows this huge public face, but behind the scenes

he's a vicious killer, as we know, and he's using

Wonderworld to do a money laundering scheme.

i don't know what's worse mike a drug runner

from the first movie or a money laundering ski

like this is 1994 this is like a really fun and

light version of 1985's to live and die in la

and to live and die in la is a really dark movie

about a money launderer and this movie is really

fun bright and whatever and just i i don't know

what to think about this one One of the big problems

with this movie, I was discussing this with Dave,

is a movie is totally all over the place. One

minute it's really serious, one minute it's played

for slapstick, and it's never consistent because

we start off with the murder of Inspector Todd,

and then he's cracking jokes and all this stupid

shit, and it never seems, Axel seems out of place

in his own movie. That makes any kind of sense.

So you mean it's like Die Hard 5 where John McClane

shouldn't be in it at all? Yeah. It's almost

like this movie was meant to be something else

and they slapped in the actual Foley character

and it's fucked up because John Lannan is a really

good director. But then again, if you're handed

a shit script, you can't turn Fifty Shades of

Grey into fucking Shakespeare. I don't know.

I mean, it really sucks because there's some

really good people in this. But I think the idea

of the money laundering scheme was meant for

it to seem super high tech and all this shit.

But I really think they just wanted to set a

movie in an amusement park to save money. Because

this movie went $15 million over budget. And

people from Paramount would come down and say,

hey man, what are you doing? For this movie.

it reeks of a mess and rights and just some logic.

And I mean, it's not a terrible movie. I mean,

it's watchable, but it's just not Beverly Hills

cop to me outside of having Axl in it. And the

remix I did for the Axl F theme song that it's,

it's like punching a baby. It's so bad. It's

not even a... I mean, I'm sure it is a remix.

I don't know, because I... If I could listen

to it, you'll be like, what the hell is this

garbage? I mean, like I said, I just think it...

When I heard the Beverly... When I heard the

Axl F theme in this movie, I'm like, oh, they

cut that thing to crap. It's only like two seconds

every time he's on screen. It's not the... It's

not the full version that we've gotten in the

previous two films. Yeah, I mean, here, it's

like they dropped it in to say, hey, guys, don't

forget. I mean, in the other movies, the actual

F theme was almost a character. It made the scene

work. Here, it just seems really out of place.

Because, like I said, this movie is so dead serious.

And then, hee, hee, hee, hee, at times. Which,

I think this is the Beverly Hills comedy with

the biggest body count. Which is kind of fucked

up, because it's all bright and happy, and there's

just something about launching grenades at Disneyland

that is in concept hilarious. Because there's

one fight scene where he's using the Annihilator

2000, the box gun, and he's trying to get this

thing to fire machine guns or bullets, and it's

just not working. And eventually he fires a rocket

at this popcorn thing, and these two guys drop

dead. And then Hector along the other day. Yeah.

Basically stand in tagger comes in and shoots

up a guy. He falls out, falls out of like a 50

foot drop. And then this movie is this one gigantic

gunfight at the end of it. Yeah. It seems almost

too brutal in a weird way. Cause you see Axel

get shot, right? The shit. And even Billy gets

shot. Yeah. Actually, one of the funny goofs,

I was actually reading about this on IMDb. At

one point, Axel fires 60 shots from a handgun

and never reloads. So Axel has god mode on, which

I think is hilarious. But yeah, there's just

so much about this movie. I don't understand

what happened because there are some likable

parts to this. I mean, one of the great gags,

I think, in this is when... Billy contacts all

these departments to raid the truck on the beach,

which they think was used in the crime in Detroit.

And there's fucking sand in it. You got highway

patrol, all the police departments, SWAT, FBI,

like fucking coast guards there for some reason.

And that's a great gag played for a laugh. There

are so few laughs in this. I mean, serious ones.

I don't know, man. Yeah, it's a little crazy.

Steve, thoughts on the third movie? I probably

enjoy it more than you guys do. Really? I mean,

it's fun. Yeah, it doesn't know what the hell

it's doing most of the time, but it's still fun.

Yeah, I kind of missed John Taggart not being

in there, and I didn't mind Hector Elizondo being

there. But he didn't do anything! He didn't really,

no. He was kind of the snarky asshole for about

10 minutes of the film, and that was about it.

They didn't really move on with anything with

his character. He was just kind of there. Rosewood,

yeah, he had his toys, but he still got locked

in a glass room. And Murphy, I mean, just all

the stuff he got to run around and do. And then

he's trying to point out to the FBI, who was

also a dirtbag, the money laundering thing. And

they started printing the, you know, the Wally

World type money. It was just, I don't know.

The whole film wasn't that bad. I liked it closer

to the end because you get the boom box with

all the features in it. you know, everybody's

getting shot to hell and then they're all in,

you know, the various rides and the mountains

and the, the, the Godzilla looking thing. And

it just, it was, I don't know. I liked the end

better than the rest of the film, but still.

I will say this movie does get props for using

old school Cylons from Battlestar Galactica.

I thought that was pretty boss. Although the

gag with, with, The money with the kiss my ass,

that's pretty funny. Yeah, it is. Wow. So, what

do Beverly Hills Cop 3, Girl 6, Space Jam, Duckman,

and Bad Boys 1 and 2 have in common? Eddie Murphy.

On planet Earth? Teresa Randall is in all of

them. Teresa Randall played... Oh, she was the

girl from the Alien Attack ride, right? Yeah,

she was Janice in Beverly Hills Cop 3, but in

Space Jam she was Michael Jordan's wife. In Bad

Boys 1 and 2 she was Martin Lawrence's wife.

I knew I recognized that name somewhere. There's

also a connection to this movie in 24. Which

I didn't realize. In the opening scene when they're

in the chop shop, there's two fat guys dancing.

One of those fat guys is the computer tech Edgar

Stiles from the fourth and fifth seasons of 24.

Oh, that's right. And I'm sitting there watching

like, I fucking know you. I've seen you die.

Who are you? And to play even more degrees of

this, this whole movie has a connection to Sam

Jackson because of The Spirit, which came out

in, I think, 2008. edgar or vince lombard edgar

styles or say louis louis lombardi played one

of the two clones in that movie which was man

i hope you never see the spirit for the love

of god i hope you never see it One last note

here. Mike, you mentioned the production stuff

earlier. During the script's early drafts, the

film's plot concerned Foley, Rosewood, and Taggart

going to London to rescue Captain Bogomil, who

was being held hostage by terrorists during an

international police convention. However, as

we've said, numerous problems came up. Scripting

issues and budgeting caused pre -production to

drag out to the point where both John Ashton

and Ronnie Cox had to drop out due to other pending

film projects, which is really sad because it

would have been... I don't necessarily know if

I would want them to go to London, but... It

might have been kind of cool, though. I mean,

can you just imagine them having a fight? Like,

I don't know. of England or whatever the hell

Buckingham Palace or maybe having like Eddie

Murphy dress up as one of the the Bobby guards

or something that would have been kind of funny

or or instead of having a fight on the spider

and instead of having to do a rescue on the spider

they have a fight on the London Eye the Ferris

wheel or something yeah I mean honestly it's

got a lot more potential to be funnier I think

I just want to go back just for a moment here

about Gil Hill. You are right. He did run for

the... He was elected Detroit City Council in

1989, eventually becoming president of the council.

He did run unsuccessfully for mayor of Detroit

against Kiwami Kilpatrick in the 2001 election.

He was initially considered to be the leading

candidate and had support for many people connected

with the incumbent mayor, Dennis Archer. So I

think that's kind of cool that... This is a guy

who acted in only three movies, and we still

remember him for that role. And I don't think

you can say that that's typecasting, because

he hasn't done anything else at all. He played

the part perfectly. Absolutely. One of the cool

things about this movie that I found out is they

wanted to cross this over with Crocodile Dundee.

Of all the films, I would never have thought

of Eddie Murphy. Paul Hogan sharing the screen.

I don't know how that would have worked. It would

have been kind of weird to see, but who knows?

Maybe that would have been a much better movie

than what we got. I don't know, but there's no

way Crocodile... The first two movies are great.

The third movie for Crocodile Dundee is kind

of on par with this one. I still love those first

two. I didn't know there was a third one until

you just mentioned it. Yeah, it was called...

Satan's Revival. Oh, God. Judgment Day? No, it

was not called Judgment Day. Robocop, The Return.

Crocodile Dundee, The Reckonings. Featuring Terminator.

No, the third one was Crocodile Dundee in Los

Angeles. But, anyway. Beverly Hills Cop 3, it's

probably the lowest on my rating scale. I do

like some of the comedic moments, like when he's

in the hokey suit. I do like that. One of the

reasons why I love it being set at Wonderworld

is being able to see the background and the...

tunnels and all that stuff and actually seeing

the mascots I always wondered what mascots do

when they're not entertaining the park guests

and just seeing that was really really cool I

think it had a really cool setting I just don't

think they used it as well as they could have

right All right, we're going to take one final

break, come back with our final thoughts and

ratings for each film after this. Can I count

on you? And I can trust you. Yes. Are we working

undercover together? Yeah. And I can trust you

to be quiet. And who are you talking to? Okay,

listen. I need you to drive the Ferrari for a

couple of days. You want me to drive the Ferrari?

Yes, I'm going out of town for a couple of days

and I need you. I need you to drive the Ferrari.

Drive it where? Just drive it around, but nobody

can know it's you. You have to be me. How do

I drive the car? Dump down, scooch down inside

the car like you drive like this. No one can

know it's you. Please don't tell Todd it's you.

So just scooch down? Don't have a lot of people

hanging around the car because it's going to

draw attention to yourself. I got you. Have like

one person. Have Marcy. Drive Marcy in the car.

She's supposed to hang out with me this weekend.

What do you mean? But for the car. She don't

want to be with me. She's going to drive around

in the car. She likes the car. She loves it for

us to drive around in the car with Marcy. So

I'm driving the car. Drive the car with Marcy

to scoot you down. Just drive around. And don't

tell anybody about this. Don't tell anybody about

this, okay? And I know it's a lot of stuff you

don't understand, but this is my move. This is

one that's going to make me cop it a month, and

I'm going to take you with me. We're going to

be there smiling together. Beautiful. And I can

trust you. Yeah. And you're my friend. Yes. And

we're undercover. Yes. And you understand this?

No. Good. What the hell do you need $1 ,000 for?

A little flash money. Flash money? Well, let's

see here. $2 ,000 for a suit. $200 for a tie.

A requisition order for a Ferrari. I don't want

to see any more of these blue slips. We're not

going to see some arrest slips. I know that you're

getting upset, and I know that you have reason

to be upset, but let me tell you something, Chief.

I am close. I'm so close now, I'm closer than

I've been, and it's making me crazy, because

I can smell it. It's in the air, and I smell

it. Do you smell it? Because I smell it. All

I smell is your bullshit. For six months, I've

been pouring money down a bottomless hole. Where

are the bad guys at the end of this rainbow?

Wait a second. Look, I just thought that if there

was a problem... Don't think, Axel! It makes

my dick itch. The truth is, this apartment's

furniture a fortune. And my ass is on the line.

I okayed all this shit. It's been out of my fucking

mind to keep letting you talk me into this shit.

But I can't pull out until I get some kind of

bust or my career is finished. But I promise

you, I won't go down alone. I'm going to give

you three days. If I don't see some results by

then, I'm going to cover my own ass. How do you

like that arrangement? If I only have three days

to do this, I have to go deep undercover. I'm

undercover deep now. This is deep, but I'm going

deeper. I don't want no more money or nothing,

but I'm going deep, deep, deep. Deep undercover.

So you sign that for me and I'm going so deep,

sir, you not even know where people are going

to try to page me. Excellent. No answer, because

I'm going to be deep undercover. I'm tired of

your bullshit, Foley. You got three days. If

I don't see some results by then, I'm going to

grind your ass into dog meat. You got that? Deal.

I'll have a dog meat ass. Now, could you please

sign my authorization for my flash money, please?

Flash money. Just make sure nothing happens to

that Ferrari. That's a $50 ,000 automobile, you

know. Oh, no, no, no. It's $67 ,000 and fast.

It goes from $100 ,000 to $150 ,000 in like...

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Place like this. Swimming pool, jacuzzi. What

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here on m wire and it is the 125th episode Closing

out the Beverly Hills Cop film franchise. For

the first film, I'm going to give it three out

of five. I do enjoy the movie. I do enjoy it

for its humor that it does have, but I do feel

that the villain is just no. It's just not my

kind of villain at all. So that's my rating for

the first one. What about you, Steve? What are

you going to rate the first one? I'd probably

give it about a three and a half. It's still

a great film. Mike? I'd probably go with Steve.

Yeah, three and a half. I mean, it's got some

really great moments. It's just it kind of fizzles

in the villain department, but everybody else's

performance. Yep. which is at four and up, you

want to watch it. So, yeah, it's definitely not

shit. It's not exactly Citizen Kane either, but

definitely watchable. True. For the second movie,

it automatically gets a five. It's easily the

best movie. It's easily the most rewatchable

out of the three for me. What about you, Steve,

for the second film? Yeah, I'd probably give

that one a five as well. Mike? I would go four

and a half. The only reason is they kind of...

The arms dealer dude, not Juergen, name I can

ever pronounce, but the other dude, the guy from

CSI, he's just kind of there. That always kind

of bugged me about it. But from a comedic standpoint,

no, it's so good. Like I said, it's one of those

movies I think that deserves to be preserved

in some form, even though it's only a 4 out of

5. But no, it's really... entertaining. The chemistry's

great. The jokes are great. It's notable as shit

when you realize it. And it got nominated for

an Oscar for Shakedown, which is arguably one

of the coolest songs that come out of the 1980s.

Absolutely. And the funny thing is, I think of

this, I think of the second movie every time

I hear that, so there's nothing else that that

song is attached to that I can think of off the

top of my head. For the third film, I do like

certain parts of it, but it is by far the worst

out of the three. I'm going to give it a 2 .5.

I can't give it anything more than that. Steve?

I'm going to probably give that one a 3. It's

still lower than the first film, but it's still

not... I enjoy the film. It's not... as good

as the other two, but it's goofy enough that

I can forget about the parts where it's forgetting

what it's trying to do and focus around the stupid

parts. I enjoy it for what it is. I wouldn't

say it's a great Beverly Hills cop movie by any

means, but it's still a good movie. Right. Do

we have any predictions for whatever the fourth

film might be if the fourth film ever happens?

Well, if it happens, it's going to be delayed

because he even said as much as Eddie Murphy

did. Right. But, I don't know. It's hard to say.

I kind of hope it'll be kind of a coming of age

or like maybe Axel does have a son and he's like

maybe Alright, I'm going to teach you the things

I did. And maybe it can be sort of a passing

of the torch without it being stupid. I'd like

to see Judge Reinhold come back. That'd be pretty

cool. Ronnie Cox is still alive. I think that'd

be kind of fun. It'd all be great. To have the

movie start at Taggart's retirement home in Phoenix.

Maybe they're all having... Maybe Billy's...

They're tired and they're hanging out or something.

And Tagger gets shot. Or, you know, actually,

you know what would be kind of cool? If they

had a revenge plot and kind of tied it in like

Die Hard with a Vengeance. Maybe Axel's son gets

shot. Or something, yeah, like something bad

happens and they all have to team up. But maybe

they don't have the same police powers that they

used to. So, I don't know. As long as it's funny.

And, you know, definitely, I don't know who I'd

want to direct it, or even who I'd want to have

write the script. Well, it's Brett Ratner. Okay,

strike one. I was going to say, you motherfucker.

He's directing. He's not that bad, I mean, in

some things. X -Men 3. That's, I mean, yeah,

that's a good one. That one's dog shit, but he's...

He's been involved with other things that were

really good, though, like Prison Break, which

was TV. But I'm not saying he's had great films.

You know who might be kind of fun to bring on

with us? I know you mentioned The Hangover earlier.

Maybe if you get the guy who did the first one

to do that one. Todd Phillips? I like his style

of comedy, though. Arguably, two and three are

fucking terrible. Although 3 is more watchable

than 2, but that's not saying much. I'm trying

to think of who I'd want to have script this.

If I can think of anybody in Hollywood who I

know is funny as hell. Nope. Got nothing. I just

don't want it to suck. I don't want to see them

dragging out these old franchises. Well, boys,

we've got to make one more movie. Why? Because

Daddy's got a boat payment. Or something like

that. Tell a new story, or at least advance these

characters, or end them off properly. Because

to me, Beverly Hills Cop 3 doesn't seem like

it should have been the end of these characters.

Because you see Axel's responsible enough to

get the police work done. Yeah. And it'd be nice

to see what happens to Billy, maybe get a little

follow -up on Taggart. Because I don't think

3 should be the end of their story, where, yay,

you've avenged your friend and became a cartoon

creature. See, I honestly think that two was

enough. No, I wouldn't disagree with you. I mean,

the first movie and the second movie, the first

movie we get the setup of, and we didn't really

talk about this when we talked about the first

movie, the first movie we get the setup of how

against Axel everybody is, how the entire department,

Bogomil and everybody's against him. throughout

the whole film and then by the end they're all

friends and you know they're gonna go marlin

fishing and whatever the hell else and so by

the time we get to the second one we see that

you know they all have some sort of friendship

and whatever else and and the second one you

know bogomil is the police chief we don't need

to see him go any higher in the beverly hills

police department or the beverly hills california

political scene Rosewood and Taggart are still

partners, still going to do their crime fighting,

and Axel's going to go back to Detroit for some

good old American street violence. You know.

Yeah, you're right. If the movies had ended there,

I would have been okay with it. Yep. Everyone

just makes it unnecessarily dark. Yeah. And I

don't want them to do a fourth film just to do...

He even said if the script is crap, he's not

doing it. He said it has to be worth it. He says

he's not doing it for a money grab. Good. That's

very good. That's very good. I almost would like...

If you look at it, if you really look at it,

Beverly Hills Cop 2 in two years will be 30 years

old. And... You look at that, you look how long

he's had with the franchise. And granted, the

franchise only has three films, but still, it's

still an acclaimed franchise for the most part.

I would almost want him to try to come up with

something. Like, him to write the comedy side

and maybe somebody else to come in to write the

action side. Because he knows his character.

He knows all of the characters that have been

in the movies. So if you get... If you get...

Billy back, if you get Taggart back, even if

you got John Flint back, Hector Elizondo's character,

you bring Serge back, Bronson Pinshot, you obviously

can't bring Gil Hill back since his character

died. You bring back Ronnie Cox. Hell, you could

even, I don't know if she's still alive or not

because I'm not looking at anything, but hell,

you could bring Jenny back from the first movie

and find a way to incorporate her somehow. Who

would you want to bring in new? Bring in new

for a villain. Okay, for a villain. Anybody but

Khan. We don't need more Benedict Cumberbatch

movies. No more Ham Benedict eggs. No. I'd like

to see who I think might work with this, depending.

Tom Hanks. No, I'm just playing. Chris Rock.

No, The Rock. Oh, okay, The Rock. Wayne Johnson.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know who... Or though, if

you brought in Chris Rock as a... It'd be kind

of funny if you were to bring him back as a...

Like, hey, you became a cop? Yeah, who knew?

That might be kind of funny as a gag. Like, you

look familiar. But yeah, I think The Rock or

it'd be great to have a female villain. Maybe...

I'm trying to think. Maybe somebody who... I'm

trying to think. What's the thing now? maybe

something involving identity theft or something

like that. I have a feeling that might be a plot

line that they could do. They have involved high

-tech cybercrime. Axel Foley's like, man, I know

how to do shit on the street, but this shit baffles

me. So then you could have the Beverly Hills

Police Department play into the whole high -tech

thing. And maybe someone's selling off stolen

credit cards or identities to drug dealers and

terrorists or something. I don't know. Yeah,

no, I know. I'm not. It's one of those things.

It's just one of those things where I'm perfectly

happy with the first two films. The third film

is there and I can watch it every now and then.

Up until we did this recording, I had not watched

the third film since probably 99, 2000. So it's

been a long time since I've seen the third film.

But that second film, by far, oh, God, so good.

I think the last time I watched the third film

was, yeah, I want to say it's been at least ten

years, at least. Well, before me and Dave watched

it. Yeah. I mean, you know what? It's a bad movie,

but it's not so bad that you can't watch it.

just you're going to be thinking about the other

two. You're always going to be asking, what happened?

Yeah, absolutely. I feel so bad for ragging on

it, but if you're going to watch the movies,

obviously watch all three. Just know that not

all are created equal. Yeah, exactly. All right,

Mike, where can the people find you online, sir?

All right, well, you can find me on Toronto's

AM640 on VGS. I'm also on Newstalk 1010. In Toronto

and across the Clear Channel Radio Network on

the Sean Green Show in 210 markets, I think.

ThisWeekInGeek .net, ReviewADay .ca, though I

syndicate everything. And on Twitter and Instagram

as at Birdman. I'm everywhere. Yes, yes, you

are. And Steve, what about you? You can get a

hold of me on geekcastradio .com, obviously,

and on Twitter at SCP21. All right, coming up

next on Movie Weekend Review in episode 126,

it's going to be movie remote Dan and I talking

about a classic film. Very classic. Every day

is down. No. A film I thought I would never watch.

A film I thought actually would have had a 60th

anniversary this year. Sadly, my math was way

off. The Shining? No. Ice War. Did you just...

What did you say? Don't eat a cinematic masterpiece.

No. What did you say? No. We're going to be talking

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