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The Breakfast Club Review

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About this Episode

Mike and Doug celebrate the 30th anniversary of John Hughes' The Breakfast Club, discussing how this 1985 film defined the teen coming-of-age genre and still resonates today. They explore the film's R rating, its cultural impact, the casting choices, and how the five characters—the brain, athlete, basket case, princess, and criminal—transcend their high school stereotypes over the course of Saturday detention. From Hughes' career as a filmmaker to the movie's legacy in influencing subsequent teen films, they examine why this film's themes of acceptance and breaking social boundaries remain timeless.

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Dear Mr. Vernon. We accept the fact that we had

to sacrifice a whole Saturday in detention for

whatever it was we did wrong. What we did was

wrong. But we think you're crazy to make us write

an essay telling you who we think we are. What

do you care? Can you see us as you want to see

us? In the simplest terms, the most convenient

definitions. She has a brain, an athlete, a basket

case, a princess, and a criminal. Correct? That's

the way we saw each other at 7 o 'clock this

morning. We were brainwashed. My movie we can

review is back in brand -new with a brand new

format and I'll only not look on film on the

film industry Well, maybe not. I don't know.

I am one of your hosts TF2 and Mike and joining

me is dog Able from talking about my generation.

Hello. Hello, sir How are you? I am well With

all things considered with the shit with my father.

Yeah, I'm doing okay. Yeah, you're doing all

right Between the family issues you're having

and the geek issue you had this year. Yeah. Yeah

Because you know, yeah, it'll be 25 years if

I can get tickets that I'll be going So this

is movie we're gonna review here on geek cast

or network We're actually gonna do a crossover.

We're talking about my generation. This is episode

one twenty three point five for M wire The only

reason why it's a point five. It's not any different.

It's just a numbering thing for me It's not any

different than a regular episode. You're still

gonna get the same content You're still gonna

get the same five categories that we put the

films into and whatever else and it's just I

wanted to be able to do this in 2015 because

2015 marks the 30th anniversaries for a lot of

film. Oh god. Yes, and One of them I didn't think

we were gonna even be able to get this done this

year, but one of them I almost If it wasn't playing

at fucking midnight I would have had a chance

to see The Breakfast Club in theaters this year

because it did do a re -release to celebrate

the 30th anniversary But yeah, we're we're talking

about 1985 John Hughes the Breakfast Club today

This is the movie That basically gave way to

all the other high school coming -of -age Movies.

Oh, yeah, really is. This is the one that introduced

us to the brat pack. Yep Yep So when did you

first see this one do you remember well the very

first time I ever saw it all the way through

and I'm gonna emphasize that because It was I

remember seeing it showing on you know TV various

times out here we used to have what they would

call like family film festivals on like KTLA

and stuff they'd run it in the afternoons and

it wasn't a family film per se but they showed

it on there several times so I would see it on

TV but I wouldn't always see all the entire thing

and it wasn't until I started working at AMC

theaters they had a re -release of it and I want

to say this was like you know the 20th anniversary

or whatever During the summer they would show

all these old films and you could go and see

him for like a buck or something like that And

so I was working at the theater and I actually

ran it now the problem with the print that we

had Was that it was so spliced up somebody had

fucked up the print And so we're watching it

I'm like watching it and all of a sudden you

start jumping and you start seeing You start

seeing scenes where they're going where it was

like everybody had been smoking pot and then

all of a sudden it comes back and they hadn't

smoked pot yet you're like What the hell is going

on here So it was just it was this weird thing

and I'm like I watched it the entire way through

it I'm like this doesn't seem right, but okay

You know, and I just kind of ran with it So,

I mean I saw that then I finally went down and

when I covered it for episode 13 good god Episode

13 over two years ago for talking about my generation

I sat down and watched it again, and then it

started making more sense. I'm like, okay They

spliced it all around. That's what happened with

the print that we had so I Watched it all the

way through in correct order about two years

ago I have seen this movie over and over again

in its 30 -year history. I love this movie. This

is back in the day when movies were actually

rated R that were not horror movies. Yeah. Like,

seriously, how many films today, I would say

in the last five years, since 2010, or even 10

years, 2005 to now, that are like not this specific

not the coming -of -age kind of movie, but just

movies in general that are rated R, that are

not horror, that are not, you know, whatever.

And there's not many. I mean, we live in an era,

an era where everything gets the PG -13 rating.

Yeah. It just does. And going back and watching

this again, I could not believe this was rated

R. Well compared to standards nowadays and you

you stop and think that PG -13 really came about

right around well it came out for Indiana Jones

in the Temple of Doom because of the whole heart

scene and all that that was pretty gruesome and

so they created PG -13 for that I Think Breakfast

Club if I yeah Breakfast Club actually came out

before that right so It I mean obviously you

probably would have been classified as a PG -13

rating for it Had it come out after the PV 13

was created Right, but you know, yeah, I can

see why it got the ratings that it did, you know

Alright, we're gonna take a quick break and we're

gonna come back and hit the Lights Camera Action

after this. Don't mess with the bull, young man.

You'll get the horns. Alright, as I said, it

is time for Lights Camera Action and it's time

for the rapid -fire discussion for theatrical

release, DVD Blu -ray, director, stars, box office,

performance, and critical reception. This movie,

for those that don't know, was... was released

February 15th 1985 oh my god such a long time

ago um christ i feel old now yeah uh directed

written by John Hughes you know i mean John Hughes

oh my god this guy He was the film director for

the 80s. He really really was Oh god. Yes, and

I will say the 80s because obviously there were

some things that he did in the late 90s that

really should not have Come out, you know things

like baby's day out But yeah, this was you know,

he had that whole coming -of -age era breakfast

club Christ weird science European vacation regular

vacation. Yeah 16 candles planes trains and automobiles,

you know all that stuff Well, we talked about

in the last episode of M wire Ferris Bueller's

day off. Oh god. Yes some kind of wonderful She's

having a baby the great outdoors uncle buck Here

here's a quarter go downtown the nearest corner

never rat not that thing off your face You know,

I mean the man just he either Directed or worked

on all of these amazing amazing films or he wrote

Like looking at his Wikipedia. He wrote more

than he produced or directed films, but his dirt

his director stuff Sixteen Candles, Breakfast

Club, Weird Science, Ferris Bueller, Planes,

Trains, and Automobiles, Uncle Buck, you know.

And then, you know, as the 90s came in, he had

Home Alone as a executive producer writer. He

had Only the Lonely as executive producer. Curly

Sue, he directed that. He wrote the first Beethoven

movie, which that now has like 25 different sequels

good lord He executive producer wrote Dennis

the menace You know The last thing he did as

a writer the last two things he did as a writer

was 2002 is made in Manhattan and 2008 drill

bit Taylor But I mean seriously the man just

was amazing he really really was everything that

he touched whether it was writing directing whatever

his writing is amazing he's one of the great

in my personal opinion he's one of the greatest

film writers of all time i'll agree with that

for sure i mean he just is uh it obviously the

breakfast club is on dvd and and blu -ray it

um It was released in 2003 as part of the high

school reunion collection, and in 2008 it had

a flashback edition DVD. Let's see, the 25th

anniversary edition Blu -ray was released about

five years ago. But the coolest thing for me

for the Breakfast Club as far as its legacy is

the... It's the theatrical re -release. Oh my

god, I would have loved to have gone to see this.

This year the film was digitally remastered and

was rescreened throughout 430 theaters in celebration

of its 30th anniversary. One of the theaters

was Baxter Avenue theaters here in Louisville,

Kentucky. But the problem was it was a midnight

showing. And just like the Gremlins, I don't

go out or I don't get fed or I don't, you know,

nothing after midnight. You know, I don't blame

you. It's going out for midnight movies. And

yes, it's a good thing. And John Hughes films

kind of have a lot of cult films have that midnight

movie showing. Like my asthma I guess would be

the best thing to put for it that they have that

that niche Market, but It's not one that you

need to go out and see it midnight. I'm sorry.

I Mean, you know I mentioned when we redid when

we revisited Top Gun or I'm talking about my

generation that when that had its anniversary

a couple years ago I had gone to see that, but

that was like in the middle of the day. It was,

it was that, that, that, that was more of a,

cause it was a celebration of the blue, getting

the blue ray and some, I don't forget which number

anniversary it was. Um, it was probably the 25th

anniversary since the 30th anniversary is next

year. Oh my God, I'm so old. Yeah. So we'll definitely

have to talk about that and talk about my generation.

There's all sorts of shit from San Diego that

are still gone or here. Yeah. But I remember

when I went to go see Top Gun, when it came out

again, when they re -released it in theaters,

I'm like, I've said this before on your show

and on other shows here on the GCR, and I wish

they would do this more often. I don't see why

they like at least once a week every theater

in the United States could have a day where they

show 10 different movies or even even if you

just take five different movies from whatever

decade you know you know start with the 80s go

to the 90s whatever and just because obviously

all of us most of us We're kids in the 80s. Yeah,

we grew up knowing about these films. We didn't

get a chance. Yeah. My mom let me watch a lot

of stuff. There's no way in hell she was taking

me to the theater at five years old to see The

Breakfast Club. You know? It's just not gonna

happen. So, the stars of the film. Oh boy. You

have Emilio Estevez. You have... Judd Nelson,

Molly Ringwald, Anthony Michael Hall, Allie Sheedy,

Paul Gleason, John Kapelos, Ron Dean, and Mercedes

Hall, and John Hughes is actually uncredited

as Mr. Johnson. Yes. Comes to pick up Anthony

Michael Hall at the end of the movie. Yep. One

thing I want to... Say before we get too far

into this is I love the poster even though it's

a slightly different from what's said in the

film I love the poster because I can I got a

power we just reference out of it folks Yeah,

they were five total strangers with nothing in

common meeting for the first time a brain a beauty

a jock a revlin a recluse before the day was

over They broke the rules bared their souls and

touched each other in a way. They never dreamed

possible And of course, now that you said touch

themselves, yes. That's what it says on the thing.

Well, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, I was just

all I could think about was that that scene where

Judd Nelson is climbing around underneath the

table. That's why it's rated R. Right there.

That's why it's rated R. Right there. I forgot

about that scene and I just watched the movie

like a day and a half ago. Yeah, that's why it's

rated R, folks. So, for me, I had, you know,

I asked you earlier when you had originally seen

this. For me, I had seen this... Oh, God. I hate

to say this, but it was probably 10 years after

the release. It was 95, maybe, when I had finally

got around to seeing this and figuring, you know,

getting exposed to what this movie was. And I'm

like, hey, it's a young Gordon Bombay. What the

hell? Yeah, yeah. And I know the name. but with

the character it doesn't sound like Hot Rod at

all with Judd Nelson like he must really put

on a voice when he did the Hot Rod role in Transformers

the movie because his regular voice as Bender

just doesn't doesn't sound the same to me as

when I don't know yeah So you got the original

names of the of the characters were the basket

case for Ali Sheedys, Alison Reynolds, the brain

for Anthony Michael Hall as Brian Ralph Johnson,

the athlete in Andy Clark as Estevez, the princess

Claire Standish as Molly Ringwald and the criminal

is John Bender as Judd Nelson and I'm thinking

hey if we didn't have DiMaggio Judd could do

Bender again. Oh, God. No. No. I swear, as soon

as Futurama came out and I saw the robot's name

was Bender, I'm like, Oh, my God. Yeah, that's

so. So these five teenagers are all in morning

detention on Saturday morning detention. at their

high school because they've all done something

and Out of all the because I moved around quite

a bit during high school out of all the high

schools I went to None of them had Saturday morning

or afternoon detention. It was always detention

right after school See we we had out here We

had Saturday school and you would either get

detention or you'd get Saturday school and Saturday

school sucked because it was it was basically

you were there until noon basically to sit there

and say I fucked up and if the teacher really

hated you then you'd get Saturday school and

it was it was just a it was a sucky punishment

because of because you had to get up and you

had to be there at like 745 and sit there until

noon and think about what you did and you that

I never had You know, I never had Saturday school.

I did have detention once in high school, but

that was it You're I paused the recording your

mic did something it changed over you I'm talking

about Saturday school. Sorry Yeah, see we didn't

have Saturday school we'd I don't I don't remember

because like I said I moved being a part of the

state of Kentucky You know state's custody thing.

I was always doing School at whatever place when

I was at and the few times I did actually go

to a actual high school Both of you know a few

of those schools. We didn't have Saturday school

detention was either right after school or you

know So you got these you get these these five

different characters and it's Funny thing is

this movie got released in 85, but the events

take place Saturday, March 24th 1984 And the

one piece of the cast that we have yet to bring

up is Deputy Dwayne Robinson Of course, he'll

also he'll always be known as mr. Vernon. Oh,

yeah is Paul leason. Oh Paul Gleason That man

is so missed. Oh god. He is I there there was

And it was a horrible film But if you are into

all these John Hughes films, you probably should

watch it just because it was such such an homage

to it There is a film called not another teen

movie Yeah, and they bring back Oliver yeah,

Paul Gleason shows up as a principal and he's

doing the whole You love the bull. You got the

horns bit And I mean just all that all over again.

It was absolutely hilarious and I saw it and

I busted up laughing after seeing that Well worth

that you know what the sad thing is. He's more

of a mr. Vernon type character He's more of a

positive version of Mr. Vernon in National Lampoon's

Van Wilder. Yeah, I'll give you that. Well, the

reason why I say Gleason played Mr. McDougal

in that movie and he... the reason why I say

it's a more positive version of Mr. Vernon is

because in that movie he actually wants to see

and I'm sure in this movie as well he wants these

these kids to all succeed but the way that the

movie is portrayed the character he it seems

like he's just out to get them it seems like

he's in the breakfast club it seems like he's

just out to tear them down and yeah really he

wants to see them succeed Probably but I thought

it was a nice twist When he did Van Wilder, even

though I can't stand Ryan Reynolds to save my

life I think the only decent film I've seen him

in is safe house, but that's a story for another

day At the breakfast club so all you know, you

see all these kids, you know You see these five

kids drive up and they all come in they all Different

backgrounds obviously yeah Andrew and Claire

are Probably the two out of the five that would

really probably hang out with each other more

Than any others because ones you know cheerleader

and ones a jock and whatever else and and the

funny thing is is By the end of the movie. That's

not how it ends up. I mean yeah You know you

get her with with bender and you get him with

with with Allie sheeties character and It's It's

just so interesting how even back then high schools

were so clicky. Oh god. Yes, that's never gonna

change ever I don't care how much people say

that high schools aren't gonna have clicks bullshit

You know I'll call everybody on that because

my high school that was the one of the big things

they wanted to have was They didn't want to have

clicks when they were around they asked all the

kids and the kids were like oh Yeah, we don't

want to have clicks, and you know what you had

all the drama nerds You had you know all the

science geeks you had the jocks that were out

there playing football No, I'm sorry it was you

had clicks no matter what you tried to do they

were still there You had them in you know 85

you had them in 84 all that It wasn't going to

change No, it wasn't And basically this is a

journey of these five people throughout this

day and you know discovering that they can all

become friends and how the the the conformities

of their social experiences have essentially

faded away by the end of the movie you assume

that their friendships slash relationships are

going to continue after the events of the film

whether they did or not you know we can only

yeah I mean assume at this point but you know

but by the end of it I'd like to think that they're

all friends with Brian that you know someone

says hi to him walking down the hall or whatever

yeah uh... you know uh... that kind of thing

uh... when you consider all the problems that

they had to try and was he was so pressured i

have to have good grades you know what they're

doing so perfectly of me and that was the whole

reason they had the flare gun go off in his locker

was that he was going to try and commit suicide

with the flare gun because he couldn't take the

pressure And that was you know, that was really

kind of a dark thing and I was like when I heard

that I was like, oh shit That's what he was gonna

do with it And I just kind of went wow cuz I

knew kids like that in high school, you know

that were so pressured It's scary that you have

to have that but you know, I mean that and you

see John with with his dad burning him with with

the cigar or the cigarettes and you know Claire

getting the pressure of you have to lose your

virginity give it up blah blah blah You know

all that kind of came through and it just feels

like damn This is this makes a lot of sense And

I think we all had we all either experienced

something of that at some point in time in our

high school experiences Or we knew somebody who

was like that I mean, you know There's always

pressure from parents, especially See, today,

outside of my friends that I know that have kids

and stuff, I'm gonna exclude them, but people

in general today who have children, they're not

the same as what our parents were 30 years ago.

They're just not. Because back then, parents,

you know, and today's standards are completely

different. You know, you've got people coming

from divorced homes, you've got people coming

from... you know, single parent homes where the

father or the mother is not in the picture at

all, whether they get divorced or whether it

was a one night stand or whether it's whatever.

Back then, you lived with your significant other.

You dealt with your marriage. You didn't just

run out and get a divorce and run away from it.

You worked at it. Yeah, you know. And. parents

of that generation of the 80s, they put all kinds

of pressures on their kids, whether it's the

good grades, whether it's the sports, whether

it's the... See, Bender's character's interesting

because he's probably the one character out of

the film that I don't remember seeing in a lot

of high school. I mean, I'm sure the high schools

I went to had a bender type, but, you know, you,

you always see the jock. You always see the princess.

You always see the bat, you know, the basket

cases. I mean, we really, you know, the basket

cases to me were like, Oh, okay. Hi. How you

doing? You know, kind of thing. Just, you know,

be, be cordial to them. Be nice to them. But

don't really pay attention to them. And I know

that's wrong. I'm just saying that's what it

felt like to me when I dealt with any of them.

You know, and obviously the brain, you know,

whatever. But it's just one of those things where

the criminal aspect of the, you know, the clicky

thing just didn't really. And by the time I was

in high school, the criminal element was not

exactly. What? Bender portrays In this movie

Yeah, I mean I knew the criminal types in high

school. They were the they were the ones who

were doing the drugs They were the ones who were

selling the drugs Yeah, we all knew who they

were but for some odd reason the teachers didn't

and it was Really you can't spot the kid that

looks like you know he's been doing drugs because

his eyes are bloodshot and He fucking reeks a

pot. Come on. You know, but it was just it was

that was how it was in high school. We all knew

who they were. Yeah. You know, but see, for me,

like high school for me was. 90. I was supposed

to be 95 to 98, but it ended up being 96 to 99.

1996 to 1999 that was when you know Coolio was

around and Tupac and all this gangster rap stuff

and That sadly was a part of the culture and

I know that's that's people's culture and that's

fine. I'm not judging it I'm just saying like

that just wasn't for me at all. It's just not

my thing and Yeah, like I said, the criminal

that Bender portrays in this film is nothing

like the criminals that were at my schools in

the late 90s at all. The funniest thing about

this movie when it comes to the casting is I

don't... Estevez originally auditioned for Bender.

I could never see that. I could never see Emilio

Estevez being the John Bender character. He's

too clean -cut now if it had been Charlie Sheen

on the other hand. Well, yeah, I don't know even

back then I mean Even back then I don't know

because he had that whole criminal element thing

a year later in you know in the police station,

but Okay, can you imagine Nicolas cage was no

I know I cannot I Saw that I'm like, oh god,

no He Hughes eventually cast John Cusack. Yeah,

and then recast his job is Judd Nelson. I'm like

At this point After watching this movie over

and over and over again in the last 30 years,

no one but Judd Nelson could be Bender. I love

John. John Cusack is one of my favorite actors.

I love a lot of his movies. I could not see him

pulling off what Judd Nelson did, especially

at the point in the film where he gets super

dark about the cigarette burns. Oh, God, yes.

He starts to yell. I can't see John Cusack doing

that. I just can't. It wouldn't be right. It's

he. He's still in a lot of ways. He's Lloyd Dobler,

you know, that's that's what we remembered QSAC

for Yeah Louis Tully was originally supposed

to be the Jan Rick Moranis was originally supposed

to be the janitor. Oh, yeah So the the critical

reception This film got critical acclaim, obviously.

The critical consensus was something to where

it's, you know, warm, insightful, and very funny.

Look into the inner lives of teenagers. I wouldn't

really say it's warm and insightful, yes. I wouldn't

say it's warm because when all of their, why

they are there, detention on Saturday when all

of that is revealed they all have really dark

pasts really like really different ways of how

they yeah in February of 85 when the film debuted

it debuted at number three in the box office

behind blockbuster film Beverly Hills cop and

witness starring Harrison Ford the overall The

budget for the film was 1 million. It made 51

.5 million dollars. That is unheard of. For a

film like this? Yeah. Uh -huh. Yeah, I would

say it's pretty unheard of, but oh my god. Even

if... you're watching this movie today even if

someone who is in high school today watching

this movie you're going to identify with one

of these characters you're going to at least

identify with part of this movie you know people

might say that this is dated or might say that

it um anyone that says this movie doesn't hold

up Just should not be watching movies because

this movie and it's it's themes and it's the

elements in it They all hold up. Everyone has

that asshole teacher or principal Everyone does

yeah, even today. Hey, you know everyone had

High school sports is built on the doldo I mean,

but high schools generally are built around the

sports some high schools depending on where you

live I mean, let's face it, you know Not everyone

can have a West Canaan, Texas, but yeah exactly

a Statue still stands only because it was too

heavy to sorry folks But I mean this movie it

really is a classic I mean you have everything

in it. You've got You know, yes, there are some

things that are dated with it the clothing the

you know Some of the sayings that they say but

that's all minor shit It's all minor, you know,

it's to me. That's like, okay. Yeah, it sets

it as 80, you know 84 85 Big deal. We all have

the characters. We all have and it will still

go on 20 years from now You'll still see the

same types of people in in high school If you

can't see that yeah, you're right. You're blind

Yeah the coolest thing about this film's legacy

at the 82nd Academy Awards March 7 2010 Shitty

Hall Ringwald and Nelson all appeared in a tribute

to John Hughes, who had recently passed away,

who had died a few months prior, along with other

actors who had worked with him, including John

Cryer from Pretty in Pink, Matthew Broderick

from Ferris Bueller's Day Off, and Macaulay Culkin

from Home Alone. I... Saw this and I was like,

oh man, that's just so awesome that they can

all come back and let's face it They've all gone

on to various things. They really have I mean,

yeah You know you got Estevez who has had his

career You know Outside of the Mighty Ducks movies

the one thing I remember him from in the 90s

specifically Will actually have its 20th anniversary

next year Asa lasagna don't get neon. Yeah, he

was in Mission Impossible 1 and sadly he got

crushed by the elevator Oh shit, that's right.

I forgot about that But you know, you know you

look at Molly Ringwald and Allie Sheedy I mean

Molly Ringwald just played on Bailey in a certain

truly outrageous movie. Oh Did she? She looks

really old in that movie might be like clothes

she's wearing but she looks really old in that

movie in a few scenes Allie Sheedy she would

go on to do Short Circuit Probably her best role

after this I would say I mean not that yeah,

I You know probably I like Ellie Sheedy, but

she just really hasn't had much She's yeah, it's

just looking through her filmography here Since

Breakfast Club She had Short Circuit she had

made to order Betsy's wedding She was in an episode

of the Red Shoe Diaries. She was the New York

ticket agent in Home Alone 2 More recently out

of the 90s She was on once and again for an episode

way back when She was on CSI for an episode the

real CSI Vegas not the not the other ones She

was on psych for a number of episodes But yeah,

she I don't know it's like somebody off or something

Any other thoughts on the film sir You know it

was it was definitely a moment in time and I'm

glad you know Hughes did such a good job of capturing

everything It's gonna be remembered. I I still

love this film and I think if you haven't seen

it You should even if you're even if you're trying

to watch it as a new generation as a millennial

Sit down and watch it because you're gonna watch

it and you're gonna go. Oh shit. I know people

like this You need to it's it really is I would

put it in one of the top 100 greatest films of

all time mmm You want to know something really

interesting and I should have known about this

when we talked with this person EG daily has

a song on the soundtrack to this movie. Oh Oh,

man Song is called waiting. It's the second track

on the soundtrack I Love the Breakfast Club folks.

It's a movie I can go back to and watch Not all

the time, but when I want to relive some interesting

moments for high school You know, it's it's it's

something that you know There are several high

school films I like going back and watching this

is the first one number one overall and Then

number two would probably be ten things. I hate

about you because that's essentially the 90s

version to this Or the late 90s version to this

even though it's more so a teaming of the shrew

remake, but still either way Because they have

all the clicks and everything else in that movie,

too All right. So zero to five stars. What would

you give? The breakfast club sir. You know what?

I'm gonna have to give it a five. It's that good

for me It just really is it just keeps getting

better and better on on you know on you know

more the more you watch it just because there's

so many different aspects you don't pick up on

on the first time around when you first see it

and on on rewatches it's just so so interesting

I love how the characters are all so different

yet they can all just be this group of friends,

because they do eventually all become friends,

even though four of them end up in relationships.

Like I already said, you get the jock and the

basket case and the princess and the criminal.

What I think is most interesting about this film

is the assignment. That Vernon gives them and

how they respond to it. Oh god. Yes that Because

they don't just say, you know, fuck you. Well,

they think they kind of say fuck you mr. Vernon,

but they don't really But they give an excellent

explanation and I wasn't even sure that they

were gonna do the assignment But the way that

they pulled that off was amazing Yeah, it was

just it was And I wish I could find out to find

it. I remember having it written down everything

that he said in the letter at the very end. And

I can't for the life of me find it here, which

sucks. But I mean, basically he goes off on,

you know, we don't think that we're going to

do this. You know, we don't think that we should

have to write this thousand word essay, blah,

blah, blah, because we don't feel that we don't

feel that we would be respected. You need to

respect us for who we are as being a group of

the Breakfast Club. Mm -hmm. Yeah, absolutely.

Okay, so here it is. And I'll probably put it

at the end of the podcast anyway, but closing

narration. Dear Mr. Vernon, we accept the fact

that we had to sacrifice a whole Saturday in

detention for whatever it was we did wrong. But

we think you're crazy to make us write an essay

telling you who we think we are. You see us as

you want to see us. in the simplest terms, in

the most convenient definitions. But what we

found out is that each one of us is a brain,

and an athlete, and a basket case, and a princess,

and a criminal. Does that answer your question?

Sincerely yours, The Breakfast Club. You know,

you look at films like this, and I compare this

to, like, with groups like this. I compare this

to stuff like Dead Poets Society. Yeah, that

would be, that would be a very good... I mean,

you know, stuff like that. I know people are

going to lambaste me for this one, but Disney

Channel did an original movie a few years ago

called Lemonade Mouth. Essentially this exact

same premise, but with different outcomes, because

it was a movie about a band coming together,

a musical band, but they all had detention. They

all met in the... It's so... And their principle

was that principle, not Mr. Vernon, but he was

played by Christopher McDonald, and he was that

principle that will just shill... anybody because

in that movie they had turbo blast be the sponsor

for the new gym and You know those principals

who are like, oh, well, we got to kiss their

ass So, you know, we can keep this new gym and

they paid for all this and blah blah blah and

whatever else and so I like how The Breakfast

Club has overall influenced these coming -of

-age films throughout the years Because I can't

remember a coming -of -age movie this quintessential

before. Like, this was the start of that. Yeah.

You know, I mean, this kicked it off when you

look at it, the whole Sherbrooke, Illinois suburb.

And I got to bring that up because if anybody

has ever seen the movie Dogma. But Jane Silent

Bob they make reference to John Hughes films

all take place in this fictitious suburb of Chicago

Called Sherbury, Illinois where you've got, you

know, weird science Ferris Bueller's day off

16 candles pretty in pink Vacation it all takes

place in this obviously Breakfast Club being

part of that as well But I thought it was I thought

it was a nice touch that you see all of this

put together The Breakfast Club all you got that

feeling of Midwestern life as you know here it

is in Shermer, Illinois, and it's just it's Everybody

could relate even if even if you lived in California

even if you lived in New York You know it all

fit this everything fit into the same mold Absolutely.

We're gonna take a quick break You're gonna hear

a couple of ads and we'll come back with a few

more final thoughts and tell you what's coming

up next in there more after this eat my Shorts,

you just bought yourself another Saturday, mr.

Crushed you just bought one more right there.

Well, I'm free the Saturday after that beyond

that I'm gonna have to check my calendar good

because it's gonna be filled. We'll keep going

You want another one? Say the word just say the

word instead of going to prison you'll come here

Are you through No, I'm doing society a favor.

So that's another one right now I've got you

for the rest of your natural -born life. If you

don't watch your step you want another one Yes,

you got it. You got another one right there.

That's another one pal You throw not even close

bud good you got one more right there You really

think I'd give a shit? Another. You through?

How many is that? That's seven including the

moment we first came in and you asked Mr. Byrne

here whether Barry Manilow knew that he raided

his closet. Now it's eight. You stay out of it.

Excuse me, sir. It's seven. Shut up, Pee -wee.

You're mine, Bender. For two months, I gotcha.

I gotcha. What can I say? I'm thrilled. Oh, I'm

sure that's exactly what you want these people

to believe you know something vendor You want

to spend a little more time trying to do something

with yourself and a little less time trying to

impress people You might be better off Right,

that's it. I'm gonna be right outside those doors

The next time I have to come in here. I'm cracking

skulls. All right folks. It's time for that's

a wrap or cut cut cut What would you say? Is

the ultimate takeaway from this film for anyone

that hasn't watched it yet? Oh God Ultimate takeaway

probably Not everything is what it seems. I guess

would be the best way to put it. You know not

everybody is the perfect princess or the perfect

jock or You know there there are hidden reasons

behind everything In everybody's personalities,

I guess that would be the best way to put it

all For me, I would say anyone wanting to watch

this movie that has not seen it Just go into

it without Go into it looking at it as a new

thing and not completely because I know people

have seen a whole lot of these high school movies

before I mean You know, but this, as we've already

said, this was the start of it all. Go into this

looking at it as if you're going to find out

something about yourself as well. Yeah, because

you probably will. Yeah, most definitely. So

coming up in episode 124 of MWIRE, we're going

to have the Genesis. of the Rise of the Machines

for Judgment Day. Yes, that's right. Hasta la

vista, people. We are finally getting to... I

said this way back in episode 120 or episode

121 of MWIRE. On our road to the 150th episode

of the podcast, we are going to be getting to

franchises that we haven't gotten to in the last

seven years. And finally enough, Terminator is

one of them. We've never done Terminator on this

show. Good Lord. Yep. So Terminator is coming

up next. For now, I am TF2 a Mike with Doug Abel

from Talk About My Generation. Keep those film

reels rolling. We will catch you next time. You

know how you said before how your parents used

you to get back at each other? Wouldn't I be

outstanding in that capacity? Were you really

disgusted about what I did with my lipstick?

Truth. So different. I can see your face. See

you next Saturday. We had to sacrifice a whole

Saturday in detention for whatever it was we

did wrong. But we think you're crazy to make

us write an essay telling you who we think we

are. And you see us as you want to see us. In

the simplest terms, the most convenient definitions.

But what we found out is that each one of us

is a brain, and an athlete, and a basket case,

a princess, and a criminal. Does that answer

your question? Sincerely yours, The Breakfast

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