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The Thin Man and After The Thin Man Review

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About this Episode

TFG1Mike and Jeremy Fein dive into the first two films of the classic Thin Man series, celebrating 80 years since the original's release. They discuss William Powell and Myrna Loy's chemistry, the brilliant dinner party reveal in the first film, and how the second film deepens the mystery while maintaining the witty banter and charm that make these whodunits timeless. An exploration of how these 1930s detective films crafted genuine plot twists without relying on setup for sequels.

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M .I .R. Hello and welcome to MWIRE movie week

in review. This is episode 106 I am your host

TF2 and Mike and joining me is Jeremy Fine. Hello.

Hello, sir What'd you do with Mo and Curly this

week? Well, you know what? I think it's all about

me You understand? Yeah And we're doing something

pretty special. I'm not sure I think Jeremy's

gonna be on on with me for the Duration of this

triple feature type of thing or I should say

a trilogy of episodes here episodes 106 108 and

109 of M wire are going to of the regular M wire

episodes are going to be a triple shot of classic

whodunit detective movies because As of this

recording, as of this date that this episode

goes up, May 23rd, 2014, is the 80th anniversary

of the release of The Thin Man, starring William

Powell and Myrna Loy. And as a kid, first of

all, thanks to my father, I got into this film

series. He used to have it on VHS and now we

have all the movies on DVD. But I also want to

thank the good people at WLIW in New York City.

New York City? Yeah, it used to be between, I

want to say, 1992 to 1999. From Saturday night

going into Sunday morning, WLIW used to have...

Not only The Thin Man, but they would play Britcoms,

they would play Ed Wood movies, but they did

play The Thin Man a lot. So I became a fan of

William Powell mainly because today, you know,

Hollywood has these standards where everybody

has to look the same. Number 12 looks just like

you. And what I love about the movies of the

30s and 40s, Actors back then had mugs. You know,

their faces, some would be bloated, some would

be beefy, but the point is they would all have

a personality of their own. And William Powell

definitely was no exception. And I did grow up

watching the Marx Brothers as well. Probably

more than the Stooges, actually. But... Oh, no,

it's not me. I grew up... Stooges... The Stooges

were king. I... wasn't so... There are times

in certain shorts that the Stooges did with Shemp

that I liked Shemp, but I really like... My trio

of Stooges is Curly, Moe, and Larry. The real

Curly, Jerome Howard, not the other... Oh, Curly

Joe? Yeah. No. You know, so like, I grew up with

this as well. kind of uh... you know and one

of the things about this film and we'll kind

of get into this here in a little bit but uh...

one of the things about uh... because here well

i should back up here's how we're going to do

this ladies and gentlemen i am even though it's

not going to say this in the post title these

are these three episodes and wire one oh six

one oh eight one oh nine are who'd done it double

features so uh... How we're doing this is we're

going to review the first two films in this episode,

which are The Thin Man and After The Thin Man.

The next time around we're going to do Another

Thin Man and Shadow of the Thin Man and finally

in 109 or yeah Episode 109 we'll be doing The

Thin Man Goes Home and Song of the Thin Man.

And it's one of those things where Watching these

movies Makes me enjoy watching movies again.

Not that I don't enjoy watching movies today.

I love watching all the superhero stuff I love

even though they're bad movies. I love watching

the Transformers stuff for the giant robots you

know, I love something, you know the Batman stuff

the superman stuff not the legacy of justice

or dawn of justice or whatever the hell but you

know, it just But watching these movies and even

even watching the stooges these are classic films

that are just amazing Anyone sure there might

be problems with these films people might find

problems with anyone says these films are bad

There's something wrong with you You know, I

said this last night and I'll say it again. They

don't make movies like this anymore Getting back

to today's movies. The problem is This is why

I gave spider -man to a one -and -a -half because

they're so concerned and by they you know Sony

and Warner Brothers and Universal if just doing

setup and worrying about what the next film is

gonna be and Whether or not the studios knew

that they had lightning in a bottle with thin

man Yeah, there were sequels, but there was never

a setup on what the next adventure would be No,

there wasn't but Here's the thing, and like I

said, we're gonna get into this pretty deep,

but here's the thing with the Thin Man movies.

The Thin Man movies are basically six films,

one original film and five sequels. They are

six films that the very first film opens up and

introduces us to all of the characters, all of

the rabble rousers, you know, Nick and Nora,

Asta, all of Nick's friends, some of Nora's friends,

and it leaves off... with them it starts with

them coming into new york and it leaves off with

them going back home to california and throughout

the whole movie nick keeps saying i'm not a detective

i've been in california for the last four years

you know taking care of my wife's money after

all is what i married her for uh... you know

and we'll get to that we'll get to the details

of the film in a minute you know a few minutes

but the movie ends with them back on a train

going back to California after the thin man picks

up with them getting off the train so it doesn't

really it doesn't the thin man doesn't really

need to set up after the thin man and i think

one of the things for me because i was born way

late after these like i obviously neither one

of us ever saw any of these in theaters because

these films came out from 1934 to 1947 um but

for me that is kind of set up it's not set up

in the way that movies do it today you know it's

not an iron man 2 or a or as you know amazing

spider -man 2 or you know what whatever but i

mean it is a little bit of a setup at you know

in after the thin man where they're i don't think

it's set up but they're they're continuing on

so the way i view these six films is they are

six adventures in the life of nick and nora and

throughout that time as that goes by things happen

to them While he's doing his detective work I

mean we see you know the second film after the

thin man is is based on a lot of her family and

Then later down the line we see the thin man

goes home, and we see a lot of stuff based on

his family So you know it's one of those things

where it's an amazing six film franchise And

not only that, they have a kid, so. Oh, yeah.

And they have the dog. And I love the fact. Oh,

I love the dog has a credit in the movie and

they don't even do. I mean, maybe now and then

they try to throw an animal into a movie. And

at the end, they'll they'll give it a credit.

But I love how it has an opening credit and the

dog is also part of the family. But the other

thing that I kept discussing with movies then

and today is all about character development

and how the characters play off of each other

and Nick and Nora Charles they really know how

to play off of each other in this movie and even

the second one I think one of my favorite line

reads when we get to it Actually, you know what?

I'll save it for when we get to it because it's

it's the way It's just their chemistry. I thought

they were married in real life They're not but

they never were they well they were married just

not to each other they it's Surprising honestly

William Powell and Myrna Loy. It is very surprising

how different their lives are compared to the

characters they play and this kind of goes back

to the fact that When I'm watching anything,

whether it's movies, television, cartoons, whatever,

I care about the characters actors portray. I

don't care if Tom Cruise is dating Pamela Anderson.

I don't care if Donnie Wahlberg is marrying Jenny

McCarthy. You know what I mean? It's like...

I don't care. I care about what their performances

give. And William Powell and Myrna Loy are an

actor and an actress that basically for six films

brought you everlasting joy and interest in Nick

and Nora Charles because they are so different

from one another yet they... it's kind of...

I wouldn't even say it's the opposites attract

kind of thing but it kind of is because he's

so used to not being respectable and she came

from a life of Nora Charles I mean the the character

came from a life of being respectable and having

you know this this you know we'll get to her

high and upper crusty type family with Aunt Catherine

uh uh here a little bit but um No, yeah, I was

really surprised now there is a There was a number

of years ago, I would I wish I actually still

had this I'm kind of sad that I don't I might

be able to get it again at one point Just so

I can watch these movies over and over again

a number of years ago They released all six films

on DVD the thin man collection. I believe it's

called What they did with this is like I said,

it's all All six films And it's it also has a

seventh disc that is Nick, you know What is it?

It's called something. I forget what it is confidential.

I believe I have a DVD Yes, I have it's a biography

on William Powell and moralized life and it's

awesome Yeah, haven't watched it about two years,

but I definitely have that disc Yep, Nick and

Nora the confidential. What does it say? To documentary

profiles alias Nick and Nora, that's what it

was. Yes alias Nick and Nora and it basically

profiles William Powell and Myrna Lloyd's life

and You know, it's one of those things that I

have back when I was collecting DVDs and I saw

this on Amazon That was one of the first things

and you know, you say that they never really

credit animals you know nowadays and that's that's

true they really don't um they probably should

don't have to but here's the thing asta is not

just a part of the family he's a he is but he

is a part of their lives that makes them that's

the you know you always say oh well you know

billy bob from varsity blues he's just the comedy

relief even though obviously billy bob and varsity

blues turns really really dark a few times but

you know you you take a character like Billy

Bob and you know you call him comic relief or

who else could you say is a comic relief character

well I guess if you're going for second bananas

male or female yeah well I know Jim Carrey we

could pull him out of thin air but if you go

like another second banana maybe Paul Jimena

Paul Jimena yeah at times I guess even I was

supposed to pick up a blue card. Nobody ever

said anything about a little blue man. Oh yeah.

Even Kat Dennings on Two Broke Girls with comic

relief. I mean there are certain characters out

there that are comic relief and there are certain

actors out there that do comic relief very well

or you know but see here's the thing about the

Thin Man and the Thin Man characters and Asta

is the comic relief without Needing to say he

because there are certain comic relief characters

out there that are just completely and utterly

useless and in this case Asta is what brings

the comedy sure Nick and Nora and seeing their

relationship and how they interact with each

other at Certain times is very very funny You

know certain things that he does to her because

he is looking out for her and we'll talk about

that when we get the movie discussion, but I

love Asta. I've always loved Asta. I never will

not love that dog. Asta is... Asta to me is...

Now you gotta remember, ladies and gentlemen,

when I first saw these, I was maybe, I don't

know, between seven and ten years old, so 87

to 90. So even though I know these movies didn't

come out in the 80s, for me they are... you know,

in staunch when I grew up. So, Asta to me is

an 80s version, you know what I mean, he's an

80s version of Eddie. from Frazier in the 90s.

He was also asked to was a professional dog actor.

He was also in a couple other movies. He was

in Topper Takes a Trip and Bringing a Baby, which

I did see. That's that Cary Grant movie. Yeah,

he is the Eddie of the 30s because he I believe

he is the same breed. I think he is a Weedon

Terrier. He looks like. Yeah. Now, see, Here's

the okay. Let's let's run down. I'm gonna run

down the the information for this film It is

obviously based on the novel The Thin Man by

Dashiell Hammett William Powell Myrna Laura the

main stars the music was done by William Axt

The it was distributed by MGM Release dates or

release date was May 23rd 1934 like we said 80

years ago today Running time is 93 minutes the

budget for this movie was two hundred and twenty

six thousand four hundred eight dollars estimated

Now I don't know what it made back You know what

it you know what it's um what its actual earning

was at the theater or what? its earning would

be today, but a budget of $226 ,000 back then,

that was a lot of money. And the entire film

was shot in 12 out of the 14 days. Well, yeah,

back then, movies... Well, first of all, I believe

it was also during the Great Depression. And

I have to... Well, it was just after, yeah. Yeah,

you could say that, yeah. And not only that,

$226 ,000, even today, is nothing to sneeze at.

However, back then... Well, no, but I mean, if

you look at it, like, $226 ,000 for this film

compared to a $2 million comic book movie, you

know... or 200 million dollar comic book movie.

I think this would be equivalent today to maybe

a 10 or 15 million dollar movie. But you know

what it is? This is what I love because these

actors just cared about the craft, not the money.

So even with the 12 or 14 days, this is when

they were a little bit more disciplined, when

they had to get something out there fast, quick

and a hurry to make back their money. I don't

know what they made. box office wise, it's hard

to find out, but I do know that the sequel not

only made its money, but I believe also got a

nomination for best screenplay at the Oscars.

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yep. I'm really surprised

that it didn't I'm surprised that it didn't win

because these movies are so amazing. They really,

really are. All right, folks, you are going to

hear the very awesome trailer. for this film,

for The Thin Man, the first film. This is, and

I know people hate it when I read from Wikipedia,

but I want to make sure I get the information

right. On the Wikipedia article, the trailer

contains specifically filmed footage in which

Nick Charles, played by William Powell, is seen

on the cover of the Dashiell Hammett novel, The

Thin Man. Nick Charles then steps out of the

cover to talk to a fellow detective, Phil O 'Vance,

also played by Powell. about his latest case.

Charles mentions he hasn't seen Vance since the

Kennel murder case, a film in which Powell played

Vance. The Kennel murder case was released in

October 1933, just seven months prior to the

release of The Thin Man. Charles goes on to explain

to Vance his latest case rolls around Tall Thin

Man, referring to Clyde Wynant, just before clips

of the film are shown. I wish someone had the

originals for this trailer and they could do

high quality versions for it. This trailer is

amazing It's it's not you know people say oh

trailers are amazing these days and whatever

else and you know I'm not trying to overhype

this this movie or this trailer But how they

do this is you don't see trailers like this anymore.

It's very I love it It's just just so awesome.

So you find people are gonna hear that And then

we'll come back with the first of the double

features today with the thin man after this Nick

Charles, what are you doing up there? Depersonating

a book cover? Shh. I'm working on a case. Don't

tell me you've gone back to detective work. I

thought you had turned respectable. Didn't you

get married? Oh, didn't I? Vance, I married a

girl in a million. I heard it was a girl with

a million. Well, same thing. I've become a California

gentleman. I never heard of such a thing. What

are you doing here in New York? Well, it seems

that Clark Gable is making some personal appearances

here, which interests my wife. And there's a

very good bar at the Ritz, which is all right

with me. So we popped into town to play. But

would you believe it, before you could say Metro

Golden Mare, I stepped right into the middle

of a baffling murder mystery, and they put me

to work. Well, you poor fellow, you have my deepest

sympathy. I can use it. Believe me, Vance, this

case is a toughie. It all revolves about a tall,

thin man. I was standing at the bar of the Ritz

one day, reaching for an olive, when a very pretty

girl suddenly popped up in front of me and said...

Hello there. Hello. Another glass. How are you?

You know, we do know each other. Certainly, we've

known each other for years. Aren't you Nick Charles?

You don't remember me? I'm Dorothy Wyland. How

is your father? Oh, that's what I came to ask

you. He's disappeared. Chris, what are you going

to do? That's what I said I'd do. Chris, you

wouldn't do that. Niki! Niki, put after in here

with me tonight. Oh, yeah? That knife's missing.

I'll look for it in your bag. It's about Julia

Wove. Did you kill her? Kill Bertie! Why not?

You had a perfectly good motive. How'd you like

to have a couple of little murderers be your

children? And maybe I haven't been on America

round since that day. Are you anywhere near a

solution? Between you and me, I think so. I got

all the suspects together at a dinner party.

Then I pulled a fast one. I pulled them. And

the murderer is right here in this room tonight.

He's sitting here at this table. Are you sure

that the murderer is one of that group? Not absolutely.

But I know where to find out. Where? Right in

there. Now, you watch. I'm going to dissolve

slowly into this book. Now, if you'll stand by,

I'll give you the answer. Ladies and gentlemen,

we are back, and The Finn Man starts off with

Nick and Nora in New York. What do you think

of the New York set? I mean, we don't see much

of New York in this movie, but what do you think

of what they showed, since you are a New Yorker?

I thought it was beautiful, and you know... Thanks

to my grandparents living in Brooklyn up until

1998 and Watching home movies of you know them

living around in the 30s 40s 50s 60s It's beautiful.

I mean there there were still areas that are

still something out of the 30s even Times Square

You know there's still bits and pieces that have

that 30s charm to it, but You know the only difference

is if you walk through some of the areas you

would just like But the cell phone aside and

you know all 20th or 21st century convenience

aside or, you know, late 20th century convenience

aside, you feel that you're in 1930s New York.

And what was great is that even their apartment,

you know, looked like something out of the 30s

and everybody would play big band music. So,

yeah, it was definitely, I mean, for them, you

know, when I was around in the 70s and 80s around

that area, It was a love letter to the 30s at

least you know the bends in her section But yeah

Between I guess this movie and years later with

Woody Allen's Manhattan Harry Hall, New York

has never looked better Mm -hmm absolutely So

Nick Charles is a retired detective and his wife

Nora are attempting to settle down when he is

pressed back into service where the friend disappears

after a murder. The friend Clyde Winant, the

eponymous thin man, has mysteriously vanished.

When his former secretary and love interest Julia

Wolf is found dead, evidence points to Winant

as the prime suspect but his daughter Dorothy.

refuses to believe her father is guilty. She

convinces Nick to take the case, much to amusement

of his socialite wife. The detective begins to

uncover clues and eventually solves the mystery

of the disappearance through a series of investigative

steps. The murder is finally revealed in the

classic dinner party scene that features all

of the suspects. Um, I... This movie, ladies

and gentlemen, I almost think we ought to just

do a damn commentary on this thing because...

It is just so good. I'm thinking that too. We

got to do a fan Atari I know you did one on the

Batman animated series, but we got to do one

on Yeah, I love the dinner party, especially

with that waiter going have a cocktail ever It's

just hell and and willin powell is just like

sitting there like it's it's almost with a cat

Playing with his food before he's about to eat

it And my favorite character, I think, is also

that medical student, right? The nervous guy

with the glasses. What, her brother? No, no.

It's the guy with the glasses that he's interested

in. He wants to see a dead body because he's...

Yeah, yeah, her brother. Her brother. What's

his name? Gilbert yeah, that's right. Gilbert.

Yeah, well me Henry He's awesome the way that

he's just giving the bad guys and he's all sweaty

and nervous That's my head Go fetch No, I this

movie from beginning to end is a laugh riot and

it keeps you on the edge of your seat. This is

how mysteries and whodunits and plot twists are

meant to happen. Now, sure, people nowadays,

you know, they say they can see certain things

coming a mile away and everything else. I don't

know how many times I've watched this film and

it's still fresh in my mind. Every single time,

even though I know, you know, Like I was saying

I know people nowadays analyze everything and

even though I've seen this film numerous times

and my you know my lifetime As soon as I see

Macaulay I know in the back of my mind It's still

him, but the film doesn't let it on at all And

this is what a good detective movie is supposed

to be this is what a good plot twisting movie

is supposed to be And it's absolutely hilarious.

You have such care. Oh, my God. These characters

like Mimi Jorgensen, Mr. You know, Chris Jorgensen,

you have Dorothy. We got the Joker in this. Cesar

Romero was in this. Is he really? Jorgensen.

That's Cesar Romero. Yes. Oh, no way. Yes. Oh,

my God. He's so totally not recognizable. It's

like another 30 years before he'll become the

Joker. There are three scenes that I love. One

of them, of course, is when one of the suspects

comes in at night when Nick and Nora are sleeping.

And Nick just gets up and he's just like calmly,

he's not doing a grouch remarks, but he's just

playing it cool while this guy has the gun. I

love that and my other favorite is when they

go to the other suspects apartment and the you

know The girlfriend storms off and you know,

the the detective isn't Eric and and Nick is

Yeah, and Nick is just sitting there and you

see a shot of him blowing smoke rings And I love

that and my other favorite I think Is is where

he's shooting the gun the next day at the Christmas

tree? and you see like he's shooting the gun

in between his legs and going bullseye and Yeah,

and and then we'll come to one of my favorite

line reads between Nick and Nora when when Nick

picks up the phone and he's like Where were you

on October 5th 1902 when Nora goes? Oh, I was

just a gleam of my father's eye and and Nick

just like picks up his head slowly And he has

that expir like huh look on his face Yeah, this

this is Definitely the way that character should

play off and this is what I love when characters

should be fast talking Absolutely lieutenant

guild is It's surprising to me that lieutenant

guild is new it's not surprising that he's a

New York City cop or New York City Detective

lieutenant, whatever you want to call him. But

what surprises me is how They go about getting

the lieutenants in these films to not necessarily

mimic each other, but always be that strong,

go get them, not think about what they're doing

kind of cop. I'm not saying that is a bad thing.

Lieutenant Guild. he he's a very strong opinionated

person he jumps to conclusions and the next film

and after the thin man lieutenant abrams does

the same thing and they're they're not the same

characters but kids i don't think you'll ever

call anybody a shiester uh... but we'll get uh...

lieutenant abramson and i can't stand this shiester

lawyer we'll get to that a little bit uh... But

Lieutenant Guild is... I love his character.

I love how with the dinner party, he's like,

even you missed that, Guild. He's like, oh, you

can skip that. Yeah, they're hard -boiled back

then. Well, that's what real detectives were

supposed to be back then. That's how much you

were allowed to get away with. Oh, no, this entire

film is hard -boiled, not just with the detectives,

but the entire film series. Like, I was not at...

Know Nick goes to great lengths to protect his

wife from what happens in his life with his detecting

But the fact that now I know it is not I Know

it's it's Edward Bropey as Joe Morelli. I could

have sworn That I had seen like his voice reminds

me S I don't know who it reminds me of but it

reminds me of someone that I've seen more recently

I would say in the last 20 years more than the

last 80 Obviously, I haven't been around 80 years

yet But it's you know, it's it's one of those

things where when I saw that character, I'm like,

you know His whole tone. I got to talk to mr.

Charles. That's all I got to do that nor is like

alright goes into the bedroom and and Nick being

all protective he slugs his wife so she doesn't

get shot. I know I was like, oh my god, how Well,

here's the thing though because I thought about

the two how he slugs her It's not so much that

he slugs her is the way that I've always seen

and I've seen this about two three times He kind

of like leans back and his hand goes to smack

her as to smack her out of the way So it's not

so much that he punches her It's just that he

wants to protect her and how he does it. She's

okay with it He's okay with it because he's always

calm cool active But you know yeah, they're not

too happy of how it was done today You know I

don't know why, but bad boys coming through my

head, how Will Smith and Martin Lawrence, I think.

Yeah, how they would pretend to get into a fight

so they would distract the guy who has the gun

on them. And then they were just like, well,

yeah, but that's a little different. Yeah, I

mean, that's this. This, however, the way that

I see it now is that, yeah, he just I just see

it as he leans back and smacks her to get her

out of the way. Well now see here's the thing.

I don't think he smacks her. I think he actually

punches her because she says You darn fool. You

didn't have to knock me out. I wanted to see

I wanted to see you take him You know and and

lieutenant Abram or not Abrams guild even says

who knocked her out I did you know and the and

in the contact that I heard now I'm pretty sure

William Powell did not hit her. I Don't know

how they you know back then they would They would

fudge that. But, um, you know, he, the, the sound

that I heard when, when, when it looked like,

you know, his fist hit her face was that of a

punch. It wasn't of a slap. It really, really

well. I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm not taking away from

this. I'm, I'm not saying that I don't like this.

I just find it not necessarily appalling, but

surprising that this is in a film in any film.

Because it does show him hitting her. Again,

I just think the way they were able to justify

and get away with it was that he was just trying

to find a way to protect her from getting shot,

but as for sound effects go and how the blocking

went, I'm sure they had to rehearse this like

several times. I don't think the original, at

least the non -Blu -ray, if it is on Blu -ray,

doesn't have the audio commentary. I gotta see

if it's on the documentary, but I've always...

You know gone went back to the 30s and 40s like

the three stooges logic on how you poke somebody

nice But it's really above the eyebrow on how

the rate. Oh, yeah And sound effects of course

back then it's amazing how they were able to

do a punch and a slap sound effects wise But

other than that though nor reminds me I don't

know she kind of reminds me of anybody from the

80s and 90s like at a spider -man like that that

You know that kid who just wants to tag along

and be part of the adventure Like she doesn't

like he or she doesn't know what they're really

getting into Um, especially with the 90s spider

-man cartoon. Oh god that that girl with the

glasses the blonde hair The one that that flash

I think started to date for a while. Oh, yeah,

deborah. Yeah, deborah. Yeah Yeah, um So the

basis of the plot here, like I said is uh You've

got Herbert McCauley, who is Mr. Wynett's lawyer.

You've got Dorothy, Wynett's daughter, who is

marrying Tommy. They've only been dating three

months and they're getting married. Okay. See,

I have a very different thought in my head when

I think of, you know, the 20s, 30s, 40s, and

50s. I always thought people were more reserved

and conservative back then and getting married

three months after you've dated. Really? Seriously?

Can I tell you a quick story, though? Mike okay,

my grandmother had told me the story once even

now that she's 97. She doesn't remember She told

me that the reason why she married my grandfather

back in the 30s is because she wanted to get

laid and She said and my grandfather of course

was drafted and he was gonna fight in WW2 so

they Wanted to get married because back then

and you know if you had premarital sex You were

considered a whore right, so that's that's why

you had to have you don't get married within

three months because You know, it's several reasons

why because you didn't want it to be a scandal

today It's not a big deal. But you know people

were a little bit more conservative about sexuality

So I think that's why it's like a three month,

you know, I'm gonna get married and you know

that that's all yeah No, yeah. No, I mean it

again. I'm just reading it into it a little bit

about today's standards again I'm not gonna take

a point off of it because that's what happened

so why that is what he's some sort of inventor

that's really all that we know about him he created

the smelting process uh... you know gold silver

copper uh... And he's going away because he doesn't

want to be bothered and he doesn't want anyone

to steal his new invention. It is never said

at all in the entire film what his new invention

was going to be, but apparently his wife divorced

him because he has a secretary, as his daughter

puts it. And then Tommy goes, oh, I'll do my

own typing. So he goes away the lawyer the lawyer

is Macaulay is more He's more attached to wine

it than his ex -wife or his his mistress Julia

the lawyers sounds like a white like he sounds

like the whiny woman duck in I want a divorce

the old Yeah, I would not be surprised if I'm

doing my research, I don't think it's her him

but I would not be surprised if you put the voice

next to the character if it is that character

from that Deathly Duck cartoon. I wanted the

voice! Oh, no, no, no. Macaulay isn't. But what

I'm saying is the character of Macaulay is like,

how am I supposed to reach you if any business

comes up? What am I supposed to do? He's nagging

and nagging. He's like a nagging housewife. And

that is a little crazy and creepy to me. And

it should have set bells off in my head, it really

should have, because I still, even to that point,

didn't know who killed Wynett or what happened

to Wynett. And it's done up so well. So we've

got McCauley, we've got Nora and Nick going after

the killer. Like I said earlier, Nick is basically

like, oh, I'm not on... Is he on this case? No,

but he's on a certain case. What case is he on?

He's on the last case of scotch. Because that's

the other thing. You know, you mentioned earlier

about him blowing smoke rings and everything

else. That's the other thing. Nick is a smoker

and he is an alcoholic. And he does it well.

He does it very well. And Nick has got to be

the... He's got to be the the all -day functioning

alcoholic this guy drinks all the time I I don't

know how he does it. I honestly don't I don't

know how he stays, you know, he drinks and drinks

and drinks And of course, I know in the filming

that probably isn't real alcohol. It's meant

to look like real alcohol I don't know. It doesn't

have a lot of production notes on Wikipedia,

but It's so interesting how the character handles

liquor and the opening scene with him in the

bar and Dorothy meets him and then you hear all

this barking and you see Nora being dragged in

here with Asta. Asta's, you know, ma 'am, the

dog. You can't have the dog in here and, you

know, take the dog out here. Take him. He's taking

me. Absolutely. Like I said before, the comedy

in this movie is absolutely amazing. You just

have to watch it for yourself. We've got Nick

and Nora. We've got Dorothy. We've got Mrs. Jorgensen.

We've got Mimi, Dorothy's mother. We've got Gilbert,

Dorothy's brother. We don't know who did it.

Any of them did it. What are some of your other

thoughts about the first film here? Well, getting

back to the function alcoholic, I used to be

a drug counselor, so I do know with function

alcoholics that it depends on their body type

and what they drink. You know if you have I guess

certain amount of scotch in your body you will

build up an immunity You won't get that buzz

as quickly You'll just drink it just for you

know just for the sake of drinking it like soda

But as for all how all the characters play off

of each other. I've said this before I'll say

it again. I'll say it 30 years from now I just

love how yeah, they do talk quickly, but I also

love their dramatic pauses How they're just like

lean back slowly or they're open their eyes slowly

and you're right I still didn't know who the

murderer was and I love that dinner party scene

because the way that Nick is starting to Unravel

because he comes off as being a clown and you

don't take him seriously. When he gets everybody

around that table and he turns to the suspect,

he's like, why aren't you eating your oysters?

And you can see how the guy's getting nervous.

And he's like, oh, I'm just listening to you.

Like he doesn't want to eat. You know, he has

something on his mind or how everyone is like

starting to point fingers. Oh, you're the one.

And of course, you know, you have the gun underneath

the table. So, you know, who shot first, but.

I feel that this was a way played out who done

it because This could have been considered a

talking picture Which I've always said a talking

picture is when you sit in the movie you talk

to somebody People have a conversation and you

don't tell the other person to shut up because

you're getting involved in the plot and the characters

This one was a puzzler You were given each character

and the best part is, it's the least likely person

that you're going to think. Committed the murder

because a lawyer did it yeah I'll even go back

to and I maybe I shouldn't but I'd even go back

to something like a pup named scooby -doo Where

you see all these colorful characters? Yeah,

and they do feel like the writers must have watched

the thin man more than the original scooby -doo

Because they always pick like these really colorful

outrageous characters that you think were the

suspect and Freddy would go no It's redded herring

like it's a red herring. That's the way I thought

too because They're so bug eyed and so nervous

and sweaty. I couldn't tell. Oh, it's got to

be that one because that guy is nervous and sweaty.

No, it's got to be that woman because she's shrieking

and screaming and yelling and they're having

a domestic disturbance. So, yeah, this one kept

me on the edge of my seat. Absolutely. Absolutely.

There's about 10 or 11 different suspects and

the best scene for me Not only is the dinner

party, but the pre dinner party where? Where

one of the waiters says? You know Master Charles

these men are gonna you know disrupt your you

know beautiful dinner party He's like no these

men are just here in case you your men will serve

the dinner here You know and because Nick has

all these bodyguards. I assume they're bodyguards

I don't know if they were actual policemen But

they look like like former criminals that Nick

might have sent up and they look like they were

being bodyguards It's kind of like um May he

rest in peace. It's kind of like Eddie Valiant

with the dumb dumb gun These first two movies

of Nick is too much of a fighter he's more of

like a Smartass than a you know, oh absolutely

But the the lead -up to the dinner party how

how you know Nick and Nora are going about setting

the table and and this speaks to the The ways

of the times back then you would have if you

had a dinner party, and you knew who the guests

were that were coming You would sit instead of

just say you know everybody sit down find you

know find a seat you would have a signed seating

for each person and It's it's so amazing to me

that they did that and it's so it's such an interesting

thing so So Julia gets killed Nunheim gets killed

and then somehow they all turn it on the fact

that it's wine it wine it is out wine it is is

you know out there killing all these people and

you know this that and the other thing everything

else and it comes to find out that Nick goes

down to the shop and he finds wine its body and

they well they think it's you know They don't

think it's when it's body they think it's a an

old enemy of wine at rosebreen because they set

that red herring up and when when when that goes

to the morgue he looks for the shrapnel in his

shin and He finds it so he knows that it's wine

it that that died and wine it died three months

ago before any of the murders so that's that's

a setup to find out who the murder is and It's

just It's so good. It's just such a good film

Yeah, this is this is almost like a Kaiser Sozi

type of thing like you never know but I just

also love how the ending once they capture he's

like You know Nick is like well, you know, the

guys right there with the gun. You might as well

arrest him already So we can get you a dinner.

Yeah, he's like he's like look. There's your

murder and Macaulay Macaulay and everybody's

like Yeah. Yeah. Well, what do you want me to

do? Gift wrapping for you? Like, yeah, I got

your guy here. You want to go on a boat or something?

I love that. It's almost like Groucho Marx. I

know it's not, but yeah, it's it's great. And

then, of course, you know, they're ending back

on the train going back to California. California.

But. And Nicky's argument with Nora about. baby

if it's twelve o 'clock in new york it's seven

o 'clock you know he's arguing about setting

suns in the east and the west and all this stuff

is absolutely amazing and then the final line

she says uh... nicky put asta in in in bed with

me tonight and he's like oh yeah he throws the

dog up on the top bunk and then obviously you

know one thing leads to another now i'm wondering

and we'll kind of talk about this here in a minute

when we get to after the thin man Do we think

because of how this movie ended Do you think

this is where the conception happened? Or do

you think it because it couldn't have happened

in after the thin man because I don't remember

them really I Don't remember it showing them

other than at the end of the the first film of

them actually being in bed together Well, it

doesn't show them being in bed together, but

it alludes to it. So do we think that it's here?

That the conception happens or do we think it's

later because by the end of the after the thin

man She's knitting the sock and she's already

pregnant. I yeah, you know what the problem is

it's Well, we see hard What is with movies, you

know an hour and a half for us is an hour and

a half for us for them You know five minutes

our time could be two weeks their time. So I

think the problem was There definitely wasn't

a setup, but I guess they didn't think about

the conception I know that no, but then again

in Nora's mind, you know Maybe she was hoping

that she got pregnant the first time because

it only takes once but I didn't think much else

about it or unless I mean I didn't really I'm

only bringing it up now because She was a couple

months pregnant. Like maybe she didn't have the

bump right away. Maybe she was like two or three

weeks and it's hard to tell And again, it goes

to the setup of the end of this film beginning

of the second film where they're on the train.

So they're on the train. It takes however long

it takes, two or three days, to get from New

York to California. So if they do it in that

time, by the end of... this of after the thin

man it might have been two or three months later

which it wish you wouldn't be showing just then

yet so I don't know and I'm not trying to get

hung up over when he got her impregnated I'm

just wondering as far as the continuity of the

franchise how how that would go because I don't

think little Nicky like little Nicky doesn't

show up to the last film song of a thin man and

he's already at the in that film he's Between

8 and 11 maybe yeah, he looks like he's about

between 8 and 11 yeah Yeah, so yeah, whatever

all right We're gonna save ratings and final

thoughts and all that stuff to the very end of

the podcast coming up next you're going to hear

the trailer for after the thin man, and I sorely

miss the the the I wish that all the trailers

did what the the first film trailer did. I thought

that would be really cool. So we'll be back after

the thin man trailer. Do you expect a woman to

still have any mystery left for a man after living

in a place like this for three days? I don't

know. Darling, you don't need mystery. You've

got something much better, something more alluring.

What? Me. You! Well, you see, it's New Year's

Eve, Aunt Catherine. The old battle act? Shut

up. Excuse me, Aunt Catherine. I was talking

to the dog. This is Aunt Hattie. How are you?

Don't mumble, young men. Don't mumble. How are

you? She's dead. You were telling me. What'd

you do with it? I never had one. Miss Burns has

a brother who has a gun. If that little rat tries

to hang anything on me... You leave my brother

out of this! Take it easy, take it easy. That's

what they want. They want to get you at each

other's throats. Just answer what you want her

and don't let them get you. I can't stand that

shyster. I was beginning to suspect that. not

yet any complaints or suggestions few you don't

scold you don't nag and you look far too pretty

in the mornings all right i'll remember must

scold must nag mustn't be too pretty in the mornings

all right ladies and gentlemen after the thin

man this was to get the information out of the

way also directed by ws van dyke um It was characters

and story were written by Dashiell Hammett, obviously.

The screenplay was Albert Hackett and Francis

Goodrich, stars William Powell, Myrna Loy, Jimmy

Stewart, Penny Singleton, Elisa Landy, music

by William Axt. It was released on Christmas

Day, 1936. December 25th 1936 This one had also

wow really man Wikipedia is really being cheap

here. They must not Both films the thin man and

after the thin man for budget or Wikipedia. It

says two hundred twenty six thousand four hundred

eight estimate I Wonder if like rotten tomatoes

or somewhere would would show something other

than other than that Be interesting to find that

out So after the thin man, we basically pick

almost right up After You know after the thin

man because Nick and Nora are returning home

from vacation They're returning to San Francisco

On New Year's Eve. So, okay, here we go they

the whole wine it thing happened around Christmas

because Dorothy said that they were getting married

December 30th. And now this is New Year's Eve.

So this, like I said, as far as continuity -wise,

this picks up almost right where the first film

ended. And that's not a bad thing either because

I thought it was either going to be a totally

separate sequel, but it almost feels like another

chapter in the book. Like like if they broke

this up into volumes or it definitely feels like

You know, they didn't want to make the movie

two and a half hours So it's like the first act

of a third act play or in second act play in

this case because I didn't know how many more

chapters they would do but Yeah, this this then

we get to see Nora's family Yeah, right here

is where we get to see Nora's family who is Nick

Nick is despised by Nora's on Catherine so I

again this really here is where we see more of

Nick and Nora's interaction with each other like

we saw a lot of it in the first film and in the

thin man but here is really where it shines in

this opening scene because you really see in

the scene where they're driving where the chauffeur

chauffeur is driving them along you see how different

you know Nick Nick's circle of people are versus

Nora's. And she says, oh, you wouldn't know them,

dear. They're respectable. Yeah, I mean, this

is just stereotypical today. You don't want to

hear it. But back then, I love how Nora's family

looks down at Nick and Nick could just care less.

It kind of reminds me of any awkward situation

when you try to meet the family. And I've been

in that situation three times. where they want

nothing to do with you. It almost feels like

they're going to pay him a million dollars just

to go away. But I was surprised with because

this was my fault at the time. I thought that

Aunt Catherine was actually none other than voice

actor Venner Felton from Dumbo and Cinderella

and Alice in Wonderland, because that's what

she sounded like. And that's how she came off.

But she's a totally different actress not that

it's a bad thing. She this Ant Catherine is Jesse

Ralph and she's awesome You can tell that she's

like this big force of nature but the other thing

is that we have Jimmy Stewart and Jimmy Stewart

I don't you know, I know we'll give spoilers

down the road. But this is the first time I saw

Jimmy sweaty. I guess this was his You know,

this is when he was an up -and -coming star.

It wasn't the Jimmy Stewart that we would know

years later. If Mr. Smith goes to Washington

or, um, you know, Wiley Perpon, you know, if

I will goes west, but... Or even Harvey. I've

always admired Jimmy Stewart just because of

his voice and his presence. Here, he takes a

giant chance. And I don't think we've seen him

in roles like this after. after the thin man

oh no no we haven't i don't think so at all um

now see this is the funny thing is like we've

always called him and we've always said jimmy

stewart um like the first um okay mr smith goes

to washington was 1939 um from 1935 to 1939 he

did a lot of interesting films The Gorgeous Hussie

Speed Small Town Girl Wife Versus Secretary You

know and after the thin like I was really has

like to me Jimmy Stewart is You know mister.

It's a wonderful life even though I still can't

get past the title of that movie You know, I

just like that's where I know him from that's

where I know his voice from Even though he had

done a whole bunch of other things after that

and before that You know, oh My god, did you

know he was a voice in American Tale five goes

away? Yeah, Wiley burp. Yeah the dog the crime

I think there was well wasn't his next the last

role, but I just remember He hardly had anything

to do with that character because they brought

up Jimmy Stewart was going to play the voice

of this crime fighting dog. And apparently in

the movie we now see him where I guess he would

be equivalent to being 80 years old. Now the

dog is about 16 years old. So he just spends

time trying to train Tiger on how to be a crime

fighting dog. But Jimmy Stewart. Out of all the

movies that I've seen my favorite is Harvey.

It's a wonderful life. Yeah, I can't get past

the title either I try to fast forward just to

see like what life would be like without him,

but there's something else that's ironic in real

life He was a drill sergeant and I would have

loved to see what he was like as a drill sergeant

because I just can't imagine him yelling and

screaming I'm trying to pick up what he would

do or how he would act but Yeah, he just you

know we can go over it again and again, but that

this one was really Yeah, I guess if you put

this character Who's he playing this one he plays?

David Graham he plays David Graham if you put

him next to the character, and it's a wonderful

life you can see how they both come off as being

sweaty and He doesn't stop sweating don't get

me wrong and and you know a man of mine to my

rope But I feel that they pulled off a little

bit better. It's a wonderful life. The only good

thing is that I've said is that it wasn't his

trademark. I guess his trademark is really he's

trying to be cool, calm and collective. But every

time he does, he kind of has that like every

actor has their trademark. Jimmy Stewart's, I

think, was always like a stammering. You know,

he would like, well, wait a minute now. And I

think that's, you know, that's what I'll always

be known for. This movie, however, yeah, he's

also he doesn't have much to do except towards

the end. You know, he's in like bits and pieces.

I'm surprised that he's, you know, has a big

part towards the end of this movie, but. I think

one of my favorite parts is that Nora really

wants to be a detective. Like she wants that

thrill. She wants that thrill. She wants that

chase into the point where she gets arrested

and she's in prison. And you can see like Nick

is going to keep her there. It's like, I don't

know if that's really you. Maybe you should just

stay in there a little bit longer. Like I don't

think she quite understands what being a detective

is all about. Oh, wow. Yeah, no, no, she doesn't

I'm sorry. I'm because this is the first film

where we're asked to actually has a has a Actual

character credit. I mean he does in the first

film, but like this is the first where I was

able to actually See an article on Wikipedia

based on skippy who is Who is asked his real

name? Uh, he starred in many movies. He is best

known for the role of the pet dog Asta in 1934

detective comedy, The Thin Man. Uh, Skippy's

name was changed to Asta after the first Thin

Man film was released and he was listed under

the name Asta in the Thin Man sequels he appeared

in. But apparently he didn't appear in all of

them. I don't, well, you know what it is, the

dog was only in a couple more movies. After this

I don't know how old he was because it takes

a while to train the dog I mean it's right if

you ever watch I think the most brutal to trail

off would be how they tried to train Lassie or

several of the Collies So I think as I said he

well this dog the later film. Yes. Yeah. Well

he was on Skippy the real the the original Asta

was only in the thin man and after the thin man

The look -a -likes, later films starring Skippy

look -a -likes as Asta, where another thin man,

Shadow, thin man goes home, and basically the

other four films, he was only in, the real Skippy

was only in two films, and then the rest of them

were all look -a -likes as Asta. It doesn't credit

any of, like it doesn't have any other credits

other than the fact the dog's name is Asta. He

is a wirefox terrier like you mentioned earlier

He was active 34 to 39 So But you know it's Like

asked a like this is the film this After the

thin man is the film where asked a Rick has asked

it gets his own How many dogs how many pet? you

know pet actors in hollywood get their own story

they bring because they bring asta everywhere

now ladies and gentlemen asta is one of those

he's not a very large dog he's you know like

we said wirefox terrier um he's not a like chihuahua

dog but he can fit in large bags and large purse

he's he's the first purse dog not that this not

that i really want to continue crediting him

like that but uh... you asked to has his own

story in this film and nick even says all what's

wrong with you you know you got family troubles

to and then he starts are already starts moaning

and groaning and everything else because while

he's away missus asked uh... uh... she uh...

basically stepped out on it with uh... the the

terrier down the street yeah that's something

that wouldn't happen to toto so uh oh my god

you know what that dog actually does look a little

bit like toto okay so after the thin man as we

said revolves around um selma and aunt kathryn

and norris family um Selma has a husband who

is pretty much stepping out on her. She knows

that there's a woman. She doesn't know who We

find out that Robert Landis who is her husband

is at the lychee Club and we go there. We meet

dancer. We meet Polly We meet Polly's quote -unquote

brother And, you know, like you were saying earlier,

you know, this was an age of, you know, big band

and, you know, this singer Polly, she was doing

all these songs and she's basically the 1940s

version of Jessica Rabbit. I mean, she's basically,

she's not as hot as Jessica Rabbit, but she's

a live action version of what Jessica Rabbit

did in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. This is the style

that Jessica was kind of. implying or, you know,

implementing in Roger Rabbit and, you know, big

band songs and this, that, and the other thing

else. So we get to the club, we meet all these

characters, we know that something is going on,

some sort of scheme is going on between Dancer

and Polly and everybody else, and come to find

out David was engaged to Selma at one point,

but she chose Robert over him and you know David

is portrayed in the beginning to be all this

super nice guy very understanding you know he

gets it he's tired of seeing Selma hurt all the

time And we see that Landis doesn't want, basically,

doesn't want anything to do with her or her family.

He thinks she's crazy, he thinks the whole family's

crazy, and he's ready to get the hell out of

Dodge. And he strikes a deal with David, like,

look, you can have her. Just give me $25 ,000

and I'll go away. No, I know this is the 1940s,

ladies and gentlemen. But $25 ,000 even then,

a lot of money. I mean, you know, one thing we

didn't really go over in the first film is the

fact that Wynant wanted to give his daughter

a present, which was $50 ,000 bonds. And even

he says, this is $50 ,000. This is a lot of money.

And, you know, $25 ,000's not... 25 ,000 dollars

to you or me is still a lot of money nowadays

But back then it must have been what like two

or three million dollars would be to some people

today, you know Yeah, I had a feeling that the

way he's asking for the 25 because she's shaking

her down I was under the assumption because it

was a nightclub that it was either stolen or

there was embezzlement something because You

know how good was security back then anyway?

So that's that was my perception of it. And of

course, we also see how he's trying to shake

her down. He smacks her. She calls him a big

lug, leaves. Then, of course, we have it where

he gets thrown down the stairs right by Nick

and Nora's feet. and nick is like oh i guess

this is where they throw the confetti like they're

able you know it's it's amazing because that's

something else we didn't talk about with the

last one where i guess we kind of did how nick

struck nora but even then like with with uh dancing

getting hit and then this kind of a justification

about you know the shaker getting shaken down

and getting thrown down the stairs they're able

to take really dark moment and make it light

within five minutes like we can get away with

this as long as we can put some sort of joke

into it and They're able to get that to work

Well, there's a difference in dancer basically

kicking Polly's brother down the stairs Then

there is Nick punching Nora now. I know he didn't

actually punch her You know what I mean? It's

all perception like you said earlier But there's

a huge difference between a man kicking another

man down the stairs and a man hitting a woman

There's a huge difference there. Oh, I know I

know it's just that they're able but then again

She was also smacked a few minutes ago So he

kind of the way he kicks him is because of like

well you're shaking her down Then you know he'll

step in because he doesn't you know she doesn't

have a Nick Charles to protect her we have them

coming into the lychee club and you know basically

we meet um what's his name is his name lum or

lao or what what is the chinese guy's name oh

i think it is uh it is no i think it's lum um

lum yeah lum key william law has lum key uh nick

sent his brother up the river and Right off the

bat, you know, like I said earlier, with The

Thin Man, I didn't really read too much into

it, but like right off the bat, I knew Lum wasn't

gonna be someone who was gonna cause Nick problems

because Nick sent his brother up the river. Now,

usually, if you send someone's brother up the

river, of course they're gonna come back and

get revenge on you, but Lum, he likes his brother's

girlfriend. He doesn't like his brother, so he's

a good friend, you bet you. Well, here's my other

question to it with Lum because it was the 30s

and the same thing goes with the African -American

actors back then They were kind of stereotypical

where they're like, yes, sir. Mr. Sir, you know

And the same thing with the Asians like oh number

one guy. I you know today that would be dated

and racist But I guess back then the way they

were talking to each other was okay It kind of

makes me feel a little bit uncomfortable now.

I mean, there's more political correctness today

Well, yeah, but I mean, see, that's the thing.

You have to watch these films in the context

that they're in. You can't... Like, there are

a lot of things in these movies that would bother

us if they happened today. But because it's,

you know, 80 years, you know, 80 -some -odd years

ago... I don't know, it just... I just accept

it. I mean, I just find it funny. that that they

use that character um and they use the the chinese

accent and everything else and that's that that's

amazing and i'm sure that um you know uh so we've

got uh all right where do we go from next we

we get the fact that um uh selma is going out

to find her husband and We see the fact that

She potentially could have killed him David comes

rushing up out of nowhere Like I remember seeing

him, but I don't remember seeing him right there

with her and until he just shows up And he's

like, oh my god Selma you you you killed him.

You've got to get rid of this gun. You can't

tell no one you you didn't have a gun you never

left the house and comes up with this entire

story um and and even now even when he's doing

that again this this movie just like the first

one i did not see who the killer was going to

be i didn't figure it out not that i didn't want

to not that i didn't try but it was just one

of those things where even though i've seen these

films over and over and over again Every time

I watch them every few years. They're so fresh

in my mind You have to put your thinking cap

on but these detective stories back then because

they wanted to make you to Think and I go back

to pop names could we do where you think of every

slimy skeevy? Over -the -top character. Okay,

that one's wearing a coat and talking funny and

being shifty. He's got to be the killer Oh this

person here is just walking. Yeah, it's it's

really hard to pick out who Could be the killer

because of all the mannerisms Everybody has a

motive Everybody's being shaken down You don't

know who's gonna do what for whatever reason

like what their motivation can be and I think

that's the best part about it So you could just

sit there. It's not just sitting there and watching

Nick and Nora have a conversation, which is nothing,

you know, there's nothing wrong with that They

have great chemistry together, but you get that

plus you get a hold on it that you don't know

until the very end You're not going like 15 minutes

into the movie Oh, it's got to be that person.

Yep. And so throughout this, we see Lieutenant

Abrams debut. He is played by Sam Levine. And

he is readily accepting Nick's help. And Nick

then goes on a trail of clues and two more murders

happen. And so we've got dead bodies. We have

Landis. We have who else we have Landis we have

the gardener Let's see, let's see skews are including

Polly's brutal brother So we we've got all these

characters I'm trying to look here. It's So we

got you know Robert Landis who gets killed we've

got And no, it's only It's only the garden. So

there are only two murders in this. There's not

three, right? No Yeah, there's only two. Yeah.

Yeah It's weird how that's written. So you got

two murders you got Landis who was Selma's husband

and you got the gardener who is now a apartment

manager at this apartment where At Polly's apartment

complex Where someone who lives upstairs from

her or someone by the name of Anderson is basically

spying on her Now I assume that was David I honestly

do that that's not the apartment that we see

David and Nora in But I assume Anderson would

be David most likely correct. Yeah Once again

with the light in the block and everything he

couldn't tell Yeah, true Which also makes it

work. That's another big thing too. Oh There

are not a lot of black and white things. I like

ladies gentlemen not that not not for nothing,

but Between these films and the three stooges

best black and white ever for me. Yeah Absolutely,

so We get all the suspects together in the apartment

of this Anderson person um and nick basically

throws it out there and says anderson whomever

he or she might be because he doesn't know and

and he basically figures it out this wasn't uh

you know this wasn't because uh you are trying

to you know you as in um dancer were trying to

Shake down anybody or we're trying to do forged

checks or any of this other stuff or try to get

$25 ,000 etc. Etc. Etc Wasn't because of all

that is because someone really hated Selma and

Robert and that person was David And we see Jimmy

Stewart in a piece of acting that I don't think

he's ever done Like it's the only time I've ever

seen that man act that like act in a role very

angry like that. I mean, this is basically, I'm

wondering if this is kind of where Mrs. White

got her portrayal in Clue. Yes, I'm thinking

too, because Clue also seems to play this homage

to the old whodunnits of the 30s and 40s. But

the way that... Oh, God. David. No, no, no, my

brain locked up with Mrs. White. Oh, God. Madeline.

Madeline Kahn, thank you. Madeline Kahn. Madeline

Kahn played it a little bit over the top as well.

But my point being is that with Jimmy Stewart,

there were only two times I saw him play Shaky

and Sweaty. If you go with It's a Wonderful Life,

where he's begging Mr. Potter, and then of course

if you go to Mr. Smith, it goes to Washington.

But this is where He is just on the end of his

rope. He's right. You know, he goes like I have

six bullets and I'm gonna shoot You know this

and then I'm gonna save one for myself you don't

know where he's going to go because this is Jimmy

still we all know and love back then and Yeah,

if you put him next to Matt on con well, they're

both different line reads on why they go crazy,

but I hear what you're saying, yeah. They are

different linings, but they sound similar in

the sound of their portrayal of the characters,

is what I'm saying. Yeah, I almost hear him saying,

I have flames, flames going through my head.

It's interesting because, again, the one thing

between The Last Den Man and this one, while

Jimmy Stewart has the gun and you think he has

the upper hand, Nick Charles is still playing

it cool. Whether he's drunk or sober, he knows...

How not to lose it while somebody pulls a gun

in front of you? You know that if anybody has

a gun they're being desperate and they're gonna

make a mistake You know and that's the other

thing too I could trail off to another movie

with Tales of the Dark Side where Buster Pointe

actually says never be hot because you can't

think straight or act straight if you're hot

and What does he do he loses his cool, and he

gets killed? That's how I know that Nick Charles

is playing it cool and thankfully he is able

to overpower Stuart and Yeah, it's not the dinner

party scene I will say one thing, I do love Sam

Levine in this, as Lieutenant Abrahams, because

he is, I mean, I love how he walks over to Anne

Catherine and he's not gonna take any crap from

her. No, he's not. I mean, everybody else is

intimidated by this woman. He's standing right

in front of her and you can see their height,

like he's starting to tower her. And he's talking

down, you know, like he doesn't care who she

is or how much money she has. He is literally

talking her down. You can see her starting to

shrink a little bit. So it's like two bull elephants

fighting over territory. But is this trying to

top the dinner party scene? No, this is completely

different. The apartment scene is completely

different. They're doing the same thing. They're

getting the suspects all in one place and Nick

is waiting for someone to make a move or slip

up and he says that they have, but they did it

in a different way this time. Sure, it is the

same kind of scene as in the dinner party where

David pulls a gun just like McCauley did. But

it's completely different because it's for a

different reason. Macaulay wanted the money.

David is motivated by hatred of those characters.

He is motivated by just sheer and utter hatred

of Selma and Robert and just utter disgust, disdain,

and partial jealousy. And while the scenes are

similar, they are different because you have

the setup with the ladder. you have the whole

thing the last film you didn't have three okay

sure morelli is done stuff um nunheim did stuff

even though none time was dead before the dinner

party um you know you've got the you know nunheim's

girl who supposedly did stuff she didn't want

to be a stool pigeon whatever else um and all

this all that and but in this you've got dancer

and well Lum really isn't one dancer and Polly

and Polly's husband because he wasn't her brother

he was secretly her husband which was a twist

I wasn't expecting you've got all of them being

criminals along with David So I think they were

kind of upping the ante on the criminal angle

But I don't think they were trying to basically

make this scene better than the dinner party

scene because the dinner party scene is More

hilarious than this This one is meant to be very

serious because like I said of because of David's

motivations And as we go along, you know, next

episode, an episode, not next episode, but the

next time we do one of these, in episode 108,

when we get to, I think it's Shadow and, no,

yeah, another Thin Man and Shadow of the Thin

Man, it's probably gonna be a completely different

setup then, too. And, yeah, and by the way, since

we were kind of curious about Nora getting pregnant,

we find that at the end of this one that she

is going to be pregnant at the end of this movie

because while they're on the train she is expecting

a baby and she goes and you call yourself a detective

right but that's what i'm that's what i was asking

you earlier about the continuity because at the

end of this movie she is pregnant and she says

you call yourself a detective we only see them

or we see illusions of them Getting in bed together

at the end of the first film, right? So that

is the only and I'm not trying to get stuck up

on when the hell she got pregnant as a character

I'm really not I just wanted to make sure that

if these six films are all meant to be a day

in the life of Nick and Nora Charles That I'm

trying. I'm just trying to line it up a little

bit more, but it's it's neither here nor there.

Absolutely after the thin man was absolutely

great Loved every minute of it Didn't see the

ending coming slightly more serious with with

who the killer was You know, so we're gonna take

a do you have any other really quick thoughts

for I take a break? Um, well, I guess if we have

time the supposed remake But no, no, no, no,

we'll talk about that after the break. Okay,

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Unleashed the Geek in You. Oh, let's see. You

at the head. And you on my right. Thank you.

I'll put Macaulay here where he can help me.

There ought to be a lady next to him. I'll get

Meme. I don't think Meme likes him. Then it's

Meme. Who goes next to me? Before you leave that

open, see what you draw. All right. Put Dorothy

there. And then Tommy? No, I'll keep Tommy on

this side. Put Gilbert next. Nice boy. Who's

next to Gilbert? Oh, that bird that shot me.

Morelli? Well, this is going to be... Now, put

that slick, gigolo husband of mine, he's here.

Have they found him? They found him. Who goes

next to him? I'm leaving that open. I have a

feeling that he won't come alone. Where are you

going to put Gill? I'll put Gill down here at

the end where he can keep an eye on things. That's

the place for him when the trouble starts. And

that little friend of Nunheim's, the frying pan

juggler there. Nick, are you sure one of these

people is the killer? Positive. Nick, I can't

stand the suspense. Which one of them did it?

I wish you'd tell me. I wish you'd tell me. Mr.

Charles, I'm afraid these men will interfere

with your beautiful dinner. Really? How's it

going, boys? Oh, swell. How's this? Yes, Monsieur.

Terrible. That's all right. Your men will serve

the dinner. These boys are just here in case.

I think they're going to be all right. Hello,

Mrs. Charles. Oh, hello, Mr. Gill. Well, I see

you're all set. Do you think they'll come? Oh,

most of them are here already. The rest will

be here. Don't worry about that. My men are picking

them up. Well, bring them in, boys. You know,

you're a great help to a hostess. I wish I had

you at all my dinner parties. Welcome. Let go

of my arm, you big lug. Say, what's the idea,

anyway? I ain't done nothing. Oh, it's you, huh?

We only wanted you to dine with us, sister. Yeah,

well, if you think I'm gonna talk, you're crazy.

Just because I was mixed up with a stool pigeon

don't mean I'm one too. Absolutely not. Will

you show the lady a chair? On your way, sister.

On your way. Did you find Dorothy? No, but she'll

be here. Don't worry. Say what you need is a

drink. She'll think you guys would be about tired

of picking me up. Pipe down. Step this way, kid.

What's up? Oh, come on. Outrageous. Well, how

do you do, Mrs. Jorgerson? How dare you send

a detective after us? We just wanted to be sure

you'd get here. I told him we couldn't come.

We have an engagement for going to the theater.

Well, Nicky's putting on a little show of his

own. You must stay. Please come and have a cocktail.

What's the gig? You know as much about it as

I do. Have a cocktail. No, I don't care for any.

I said have a cocktail. I guess he wants us to

have a cocktail. Hi, McCauley. Take off your

hat and coat and join our festivities. Well,

Turner! What's this? Well, they had me in jail

last night, Mr. McCauley. Don't think a thing

of it. Don't think a thing of it. Come right

in, Turner. Take off your thing. Well, what is

it, Mr. Charles? I wanted you to be here. I've

got something, I think. Come in, Turner. Where's

Dorothy? I don't know. I thought she was with

you. She left the house this afternoon. No, she

wasn't with me. Oh, here she is now. Well, we

got him. Picked him up at the Pennsylvania station.

Come on in. Hello, Nick. Hello. A party, huh?

Yes. Celebrating Father's third murder? Well,

they were trying to make a getaway. We were doing

nothing of the sort. Say, look here, you can't

get away with this. How right you are. Take this

gentleman's hat and coat. Music. Much music.

You know, Nick interrupted me at a very important

time of my life. I was just about to take my

first false step. Say, I'm getting out of here.

No, you stay here. If I stay, I know I'm gonna

take a poke at him. Then I insist that you stay.

Here's Jorgensen. Why, Chris! How do you do?

I'm Nick Charles. Chris, where have you been?

None of your business. Chris, I swear it isn't

my fault. I tried to keep you out of this. Take

your hands off him. Do you hear me? Chris, what

does this mean? Sorry we were late, but we had

to break down the door. Chris, how could you?

Do come in and make yourselves comfortable. Just

take the gentleman's hat and coat. Come, friends,

and get it. Tully, how would you like to be in

man? Oh, Mr. Jorgensen, next to Tommy, if you

will. Dorothy, I believe you and Mr. Quinn are

over here. McCauley, here, if you will. Tanner,

down there. Oh, Mr. Jorgensen, next to Mr. Jorgensen.

I'm Mrs. Jorgensen. Put it over there, sister.

I was Mrs. Jorgensen before you were. Oh, Meanie,

you're here. Oh, wait. Will you remove the illumination,

please? Ladies and gentlemen... Be seated. Now,

my friends, if I may propose a little toast.

Let us eat, drink and be merry. For tomorrow,

we die. You give such charming parties, Mr. Charles.

Thank you, Mrs. Charles. Perhaps you'll tell

us now why we're here. We're here because I have

some very important news. What is it? Just this.

Clyde Weiner did not kill Julia. He didn't kill

Nunheim or anyone. What are you talking about?

It's in the papers. You mean he didn't kill them?

There. You see, what did I tell you? I'd like

to believe that. I knew they'd pull some monkey

business like this. If you got money, you'd get

by with anything. Quiet. Quiet. Let him have

his say out. What makes you say that, Nick? I

saw him last night. Where? Where, Nick? That's

nothing. I saw him myself. You see, I told you.

That's a hot one. What did I tell you? It's a

frame -up. Quiet. When did you see him? Last

night. He came to see me in my apartment. Is

that so? What did he say? Nothing much. He wanted

to know how I was and how the children were.

What kind of clothes was he wearing? A brown

suit, brown shoes, a white shirt, a grayish tie

with reddish brown or brownish red dots in it.

Tell him, Ed. I saw him too. He was wearing a

green suit and a white tie. Gilbert, what are

you saying? You weren't even there. I know, but

I saw him. Where did you see him? I was gazing

in my crystal. Waiter, will you serve the nuts?

I mean, will you serve the guests the nuts? Bimmy,

I'm afraid you're lying. You see, I really did

see Winant last night. Are you kidding? No. What's

the idea of holding out on me? You saw him yourself.

I saw him? That was his body buried in the shop.

Nick! Dorothy, it's terrible to have to tell

you this way, but your father is dead. He's been

dead for three months. Oh. Oh. Oh, pardon me.

You have something on your coat. Oh, darling,

please don't cry. Oh, Tommy, come on. It's terrible,

I know, but isn't it better that way? Here, I'll

take care of her. Don't... Uh, Tommy? Oh, waiter.

Tommy, sit here. Uh, will you kindly remove that?

What? No one eating? Ah, Mimi, I see it hasn't

affected your appetite. Because I don't believe

a word of it. What's your proof? A piece of shrapnel

in his shin. Well, he didn't do it. Who did?

The murderer is right in this room, sitting at

this table. You may serve the fish. At this table?

Eat something, you fool. Well, aren't you going

to tell us who it is? I don't know. But I thought

if we all had a little get -together, we might

be able to find out. Nice food, isn't it? Yes,

it's the best dinner I ever listened to. You

say you don't know who did it, but who do you

think? Morelli. You can't pin this one on me.

Sit down. What am I, a fall guy? Sit down or

I'll use a sap on you. I only want to ask you

a question. Borelli, you knew Julia? Yeah. Was

she jipping Wyneth? She don't say she is, but

I figure she is. Why do you say that? Well, once

I won her five grand, she gave it to me like

that, cash. Thanks. Well, three months ago, the

night that Wyneth caught you in Julia's apartment,

Borelli, he discovered that Julia was cheating

on him and splitting with some man. That man

was... Tana. Oh, I'm s... Oh, sorry, Tana. Don't

you want some wine? No, no. Really, Mr. Charles,

I had nothing to do with this. I told you...

That's all right, Tana. That's all right. You're

driving me crazy. Oh, now let me see. Where was

I? Oh, yes. Weinet went to find the man he accused

of having cheated him. That man, knowing that

he was caught dead to rights... And with prisons,

staring him in the face took the only way out.

He killed Winant. Now, Mr. Jorgerson... Yes?

You're not eating it. Don't you care for oysters?

Why, I... I was just listening to what you have

to say. Good. This murderer is very clever. He

studied this whole thing out very carefully.

You'd understand that, wouldn't you, Gilbert?

Yes. No. He planned the whole thing beautifully.

After he killed Winant, he wired McCauley using

Winant's name and told him to close up the shop.

Which I did. Naturally. Then he destroyed all

of Winant's clothes with the exception of his

watch chain. He figured that someday that might

come in handy. Then he took Winant's body and

buried it with another man's clothes. A fat man's

clothes to throw us off the track. He even put

in a belt buckle with an R on it. Hoping that

we would think it was Rose Breen, an old enemy

of Winant's who had disappeared years ago. Oh,

Morelli, would you mind holding your knife some

other way? You're worrying Gilbert. If that knife's

missing, I'll look for it in your back. Well,

after our hero had killed Winant, he had a brilliant

idea. He realized that he and Julia could still

collect money. Winant was supposed to be out

of town, no one you were. So our hero wrote letters

to McCauley, signing Winant's name so that McCauley

would continue to send the money to Julia. He

even telephoned McCauley. You remember that first

day you came to see me? He telephoned that he

was in town? Yes, he called while I was out.

There wasn't any slick about that. Well, that

same afternoon, Julia telephoned him. She said

that you were coming, Mimi. I wanted to ask about

Mr. Wynton. Exactly. Well, our hero got terrified.

He was afraid that Julia would break down and

tell you that he had murdered Wynton. So he went

to Julia, and he killed her. And he left Winant's

watch chain in her hand. Is this true? I don't

know. Then why are you saying it? It's the only

way it makes sense. Well, I hope you're well.

His plan was working beautifully. Everybody believed

that Winant was in town and that he had done

it. There was just one hitch. A bird named Nunheim,

your friend. Nunheim had gone to call on her.

He heard the shots. He saw the murderer leave.

He knew who did it. Well, if he knew, he didn't

tell me. You can't drag me into this. Our hero

had paid Nunheim once to keep his mouth shut.

And when Nunheim threatened him again, he bumped

him off. Oh, he was very clever. Everybody, even

our astute friend Gill, thought that Winant was

alive and that he was the murderer. You can skip

that. But our hero had just one weak link in

his chain. The telegrams and phone calls were

all very well, but no one had actually seen Winant.

So our hero picked on poor Mimi here to strengthen

his case. Mimi is the only one at this table

who can tell us who the real murderer is. Mimi,

who was it who told you to say you saw Weimant?

Nobody told me. I did see him. Why didn't you

let my mother alone? Let her alone. What were

you paid to stick to that story? It isn't a story.

It's true. I did see him. He isn't dead. You're

lying, Mimi. Of course, you'd do anything for

money. You're getting a very good price for saying

that you saw Weimant. And you'll figure that

you won't get anything if he's dead. I'm not

going to stay here to be insulted. Sit down,

Mimi. McCauley, you drew up wine at will. Mimi

was cut off, wasn't she, if she remarried? I

have no right to answer that. How about it, Tanner?

Isn't that true? Yes. But you shouldn't let that

keep you from telling the truth, Mimi. Mrs. Jorgensen.

Yes. Were you ever divorced from Chris Jorgensen?

No. So you see, Mimi, under the law, you've never

remarried. You're still one of the heirs. So

what are you holding out for? A few crummy dollars

that that man gave you and you can get the whole

estate? And Mimi... Remember, the other two were

mixed in with them on this, Julia and Nunheim.

When he thought they might spill something, he

bumped them off. You ought to know very well

that he's not going to take any chances on you.

What do you want to do, be mixed on his list?

Why, you dirty little... Well, there's your murderer,

Macaulay. Macaulay? Sure. What do you want me

to do, wrap him up in cellophane? Come on, you

lungs. Get in there. What's the matter with you?

Macaulay, I can't believe this. Well, I'll be

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Radio Network. All it sounds like to me is that

they picked up my wife in a man's apartment.

Say it again. That's it. That's what she says.

I've never seen your wife myself. Let me talk

to her. Graham. David Graham. Hold him. Okay.

This is all crazy. That can't be Nick. It's him

all right. Tell him it's Nora. She says to say

it's Nora, Mr. Charles. Nora? Nah. Sounds like

a phony to me. Better throw her in the fish tank,

lag her down there. Right. Well? Throw her in

the fish tank. What? What? Throw her in the fish

tank! Why, of all the... All right, Matron. How

you do? I like getting the gal out of the woman's

tank. Oh, yes. Is this the one that was doing

the fan dance? Fan dance? Yes. Well, if it is,

she's been holding out on me. Hi there. Say,

are you a lawyer? Hey, then, Mr. Feinberg, say,

if you'll call my mother and tell her I'm your

girlfriend, who you're looking for. Well, I do

a lot of housework. Phelous's out of here. Do

you see her? Oh, I guess she isn't here. Nicky,

here I am. Excuse me. Huh? Wait a minute. Huh?

Wait a minute. Excuse me. Here I am. Well, this

is a fine way to start the New Year. Nicky, get

me out of here. How long has this thing with

David been going on? Oh, stop that. Get me out

of here. I've got something to tell you. About

the case? Yes. I'll get you out in one condition.

No more detecting, no more cases. Promise? But

this is important. Never mind. Nick! Well? I

promise. All right. We're out. Come on, son,

girl. Are you Miss Charles? Yes. Lieutenant Abrams

wants you for questioning. Questioning? Yes.

Don't worry, darling. I'll write you every day.

Alright ladies and gentlemen, we are back. Our

final thoughts and ratings on both The Thin Man

and After The Thin Man. For me, The Thin Man

is still one of the greatest films of all time.

After The Thin Man is... it's not as good as

the... I don't want to say this. I view these

films not necessarily all as one, but I view

them as a singular story. You know what like

I said earlier a day in the life of Nick and

Nora Charles each film is You know several months

several days a time in the life of of them and

what happens to them I'm not ever gonna say in

these in these three episodes here on M wire

that One film is better than the other because

I love them all equally. I really really do The

thin man I I gotta give it a perfect. I really

really do um... had comedy, had interesting plot

twists and intrigue and you didn't know where

the killer was going to come from for After the

Thin Man you had a little bit more comedy on

the home front with Nick and Nora and Asta but

there wasn't really a whole lot of comedy with

the villains this time around it was more serious

uh... i think i'm going to give this one a four

and a half which is almost perfect The revenge

plot, I'm not going to say it's old, but I think

David needed to get over that. I really, I mean,

come on. What about you? What are you going to

rate each film and your final thoughts on each

of them? Well, for me, both of them are perfect.

I have to give both of them a five because it's

just the chemistry between Nick and Nora. It's

the chemistry with the suspects. It's the mood.

the lighting, non -insulting of intelligence,

and it's almost like a snowflake. No two are

ever alike when you're watching any of the Thin

Man movies. And as for final thoughts, I agree

with what Roger Ebert said that dialogue to William

Powell is what dances to Fred Astaire, which

is true. These movies are influential. They are

heart of the 30s and 40s. And yeah, even though

there was supposedly a remake with Jack Sparrow,

no, I don't think Johnny Depp, could he work

well? I mean, I've seen Ed Wood, but and some

other Johnny Depp movies, but no I don't think

even if you put him next to Helen Bonham Carter

and and Tim Burton directed it No, it would not

work because they would just drag it on and yeah

He could give the faces and he could give the

pullbacks And try to be something you're nearly

making me throw up in my mouth literally talking

about this I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I

these films no I should not no I know I know

these films should not ever be remade These are

classics that no one should ever tell no I you

know what here's a thing Yeah, is that even with

three stooges? I had a problem with them remaking

it I still haven't seen that. The only one I've

seen recently was the Mel Gibson produced TV

film. That's garbage because that's so inaccurate.

First of all, the original five are untouchable.

Bottom line. I'm just saying that I would almost

want it to come back because I would like to

see... black and white movies like with the artist

the artist was supposed to be a tribute to silent

black and white movies that's what i would like

you know everything seems to be making a comeback

i would like to see black and white movies again

and have black and white movies act like the

original black and white movies but to remake

thin man oh hell no but to do something at least

like it to try to you know bring something back

a little bit better with writing and chemistry

and development, that's a totally different conversation.

But these movies, yeah, I have a prediction,

you know, that the rest of them also get a solid

five. You know, and like I said, you know, four

and a half for After the Thin Man, it's not,

you know, four and a half on our scale is not

a bad score at all. I just took a half point

off simply because of how dark the villain became.

And it's all because, you know, petty jealousy

and, you know, seething hatred over, you know,

someone not wanting to date you. Yeah. But never

boring. No, right. But I mean, get over it. Yeah.

All right. So here's the deal, ladies and gentlemen.

I am announcing this here for the first time.

The regular MWIRE episodes, episodes that are

in triple digits. After episode 107, which is

X -Men Days of Future Past, we will not, I will

not be doing any current movies that are in theaters.

Anything that is released in the current year,

2014, 2015, 2016, I will not be reviewing those.

And why are regular episodes will be anything

2013 and back or 20, you know, like next year

will be 2014 and back. I'm gonna let Kevin. uh...

matt and and they've been over on a more weekly

do their thing and do the current in theater

films and why a regular is going back to the

old days we are covering any and all classic

films uh... from the eighties nineties up until

the current the previous year to the current

year uh... and we're just gonna have to you know

some fun play no fun uh... it's coming up episode

one of seven is x -men days of future past which

will be in depth and spoiler -filled episode

108 is part two of the thin man whodunnits episode

109 is part three of the thin man whodunnits

and then after that who knows you know we're

just not sure I'm just not sure what I'm gonna

do because I have to go back to my original schedule

and look and and see what I can you know pull

out of my hat and everything else the other announcement

I want to make here is that The regular MWIRE

episodes, the ones that I, Steve, and whoever

else we get like you, Jeremy, or whomever we

get to guest with us, regular MWIRE episodes

are going monthly. MWIRE weekly with Kevin, Matt,

and Nathan will still be weekly. But regular

MWIREs, the old film reel episodes will be...

monthly basis you're still gonna get four to

five episodes of MWIRE per month depending on

the weeks you know so you're still gonna get

the MWIRE weekly thing but for the stuff that

I do here in MWIRE I have to cut it back because

recently on the network we've had you know three

different podcasts talk about Amazing Spider

-Man 2 so I'm changing the way I do the regular

M wires. I'm going back to older films like I

said and it's gonna be good so if anyone wants

to see my thoughts on any current films that

I see and I believe I'm only gonna be seeing

a few other films this year you can check out

my Facebook page it's facebook .com slash TFG2Mike

because my personal page is my other number for

tfg uh... or you can check out the cast radio

dot com maybe i'll write some reviews of their

i don't know or make sure you follow us on face

book and twitter at the cast radio for twitter

uh... face book is face book dot com slash the

cast radio network uh... work with the people

reach you jeremy lucky castrated commons syndicated

shows on account cast podcast uh... you can find

me at hundred feedback at gmail dot com at twitter

Hanuk Outskirt and also Potamatic at Hanuk Outcast

Podcast. All right. So keep those film reels

rolling and we will catch you next time. Like

I said, as of episode 108, two episodes from

right now is when we will start going monthly.

So episode 108, the regular M wires will be starting

to go monthly. And as I said before, keep those

film reels rolling and we will catch you next

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