Movie Week in Review

Need for Speed Review

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About this Episode

Mike and JT discuss the 2014 Need for Speed film starring Aaron Paul and Michael Keaton. They explore the movie's fidelity to the game franchise, from arcade-style racing sequences to cops and spike strips, and debate whether the plot—a revenge story involving a framed street racer—works as a cinematic adaptation. The hosts praise the practical stunt work and car sequences while wrestling with pacing issues and unnecessary subplots.

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Welcome to M wire movie week in review. Yes.

That's right. The regular M wires are back ladies

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network I am one of your host T of your Mike

and joining me is JT from Saskatoon. I like to

go fast Because today ladies and gentlemen an

episode 102 of M wire we are feeling the need

the need for speed I Am so putting that clip

in So first before we get to the 2014 film starring

Aaron Paul and Batman, Michael Keaton, JT and

I are going to give you guys a brief overview

of our history and experience with the game franchise.

The first Need for Speed game I ever played was

on PlayStation 1. It was Need for Speed 3 Hot

Pursuit. I absolutely loved that game. That game

was so cool. I think the first Hot Pursuit...

I played one of the Hot Pursuits, I think it

was one of the ones released on the original

Xbox back in the day, and yeah, it's just...

You know to quote Ricky Bobby. It's not going

fast Just cuz it was a great game it kind of

hurricane back to stuff old -school games like

Cruising USA in that where it's just as kind

of an arcade style racer You know you got actual

cars You know like yeah Lamborghinis Ferraris

Mustangs Excuse me all that BMWs all that kind

of stuff and It was like that I would say it's

a couple of steps to the side of a tuner like

Gran Turismo or something like that where it's

like hard real -world physics racing like that

like It's still those games are still a lot of

fun to play, but I always had more fun playing

You know these are cut arcade style racers. Mm

-hmm. See so see for I was going to say in Hot

Pursuit 2 and then when you get into the more

advanced games like Underground, which gets more

into the tuner sort of thing, which are almost

directly influenced by the Fast and Furious movies,

I got a lot into those too. See, for me, now

the one you probably played was Need for Speed

Hot Pursuit 2 on, yeah, you probably came in,

you came in way late. You came in at 2002, because

that was the one that was on the Xbox. Need for

Speed 3 Hot Pursuit, the original, the very first

Hot Pursuit game, even though it was the third

overall NFS game in the franchise, it was the

first Hot Pursuit version, it was really cool.

It had all kinds of cool backgrounds and the

graphics, granted it's PlayStation -era graphics,

but they were still really cool at the time.

I mean, the music in it was great. The funny

thing is, I don't think the soundtrack was ever

released for it, which is kind of sad. But after

that, for me, I played Hot Pursuit 2. I actually...

I should not like Hot Pursuit 2, because... That

game caused me and an ex to... me and a potential

ex to not even speak to each other anymore considering

she left me stranded at the mall after I bought

the damn game. So yeah, that was an interesting

thing. Dude. Yeah. That's so sad. Eh, shit happens,

you know? Really, really does. But no, Need for

Speed, Hot Pursuit 2, I loved that game. Absolutely

loved it. I thought it was great. The soundtrack

for that one had The People That We Love by Bush.

It had Wall of Shame from Course of Nature. It

had two tracks from Hot Action Cop, which I'm

kind of not really surprised they're not on anymore.

It actually has a Canadian... They got rush in

there Actually the one and it for me I don't

know if it was supposed to randomize when you're

on the menus or anything But I remember keep

it coming by uncle cracker would always play

whenever I went into the menus or I was in the

garage Yeah, or anything like that Yeah, hot

action coffee the only song I know from them

is that Fever for the flavor. Well the what they

did for SWAT. SWAT, the updated SWAT. Yeah, I

love that song too. Okay, so after that, after

Hot Pursuit 2 came out for GameCube, PlayStation

2, and PC, I kind of dropped off the map for

a couple of releases. I did not play the Underground

games, any of them. And then I picked it back

up in 2005 with Most Wanted. Oh my god, I loved

the first 2005 Most Wanted edition. That was

so cool. Especially like with the cinematic sort

of feel of the game story, you know, especially

with those cutscenes. And, you know, Josie Moran.

God just a lot leverage way to play that gives

she gonna be the cutscene. She could be the ass

You know and it went on from that to carbon which

was pretty much a direct sequel to most wanted

Yeah, it was kind of a direct sequel to most

wanted. I actually still have carbon I haven't

played it in a while, but yeah, then we went

into pro street, which was The it was the I wouldn't

call it a racing sim But this is like the first

hard, first hard turn they made into Gran Turismo

territory. I would call this almost the Need

for Speed version of NASCAR is what Pro Street

was. Well, yeah, because the game's based entirely

on the pro street racing slash drifting racing

circuit. And if you could get into that sort

of game, you could probably enjoy it. I wasn't

a big fan of it because like I said, I'm a much

more of an arcade racer. Yeah, then we go back

into the cinematic with undercover with Undercover

was so friggin good I actually still have it

around here somewhere I play because I play all

the all the need for speed games I've ever played

I've done on the PC. I've never played them on

console. Yeah, they have always been They have

always been a PC kind of kind of game for me

and you had Yeah, you had Maggie Q as the main

female voice in this. That was freaking awesome.

Maggie Q, Christina Milian. They did have a lot

of well -known actors doing characters in this.

Me personally, I didn't enjoy the game as much

this time around just because of how the uh racing

was mixed up with the story elements like it

wasn't like a hard like beat this race you know

beat this drift race beat this drag race it was

a little mixed up a little bit more in with the

game and i didn't enjoy it as much as i wanted

to you know and if you follow you go from this

game To the next like they really fell in love.

They had this great run of the cinematic style

games like they had the run which You know, it's

it this one had probably the most I think the

most well meshed version of mixing the story

with a gameplay with it was a Jack Rourke who's

Trying it's Sean something he played It's in

that Never Back Down movie. It's just trying

to look up the cast here. Sean Ferris, that's

it. Sean Ferris and then you had Christina Hendricks

was in there as his lawyer slash fixer gets him

into this illegal cross -country race. Because

the whole idea is this is like a faster for years

version of the cannonball run. where they gotta

go from San Francisco to New York. And it was

a lot of fun, but it's like, you know, you do

this race and then you gotta get away from these

guys and there's like a quick time event. And

it was a lot more fun. I had a lot more fun with

this than Undercover. Yeah. See, I dropped off

after Undercover. I've played bits and pieces

of Shift. But I never really played any more.

I played it like once or twice. I've never played

the Nitro games. I played Need for Speed World

because that's PC exclusive. But I picked it

back up with Hot Pursuit, the 2010 version. And

it was okay. It was... I still missed the 2002

version. Or the 2000... Well, no. Hot Pursuit

2. No, no, no. I'm confusing that with Most Wanted.

The Hot Pursuit... 2010 version was it was pretty

interesting. I see this the thing with me in

these in this franchise is To hell with the the

the stock car style games the whole point for

me would need to speed is going really fast through

really awesome locales trying to get away from

the cops or Being a cop and trying to bust people

that's that's my enjoyment of these games and

then i picked it back up with uh... i don't think

i played most wanted twenty twelve i wanted to

but i don't think i did and i've seen stuff with

rivals uh... i still love the franchise uh...

it's a franchise that has been around since you

know my you know as far as me being involved

with it playing it early mid -teens i think so

uh... absolutely love it Now I will say really

quickly before we actually get to the film discussion

here on MWIRE that Need for Speed games some

of them have story some of them don't So when

I saw the movie or when I saw when I first saw

the teasers for the movie I wasn't expecting

a whole lot in the story i was expecting the

standard either hot pursuit or most wanted kind

of storyline um where you have the driver or

whoever and you know he has to do something to

redeem himself and you know everything else and

that's what i was like i wasn't expecting the

film to you know be be a bajillion dollar film

i don't even think at this point it's made its

money back which is kind of sad No, it's okay

Looking at the box office. It's fitting distance

of making its 66 million dollar budget back.

Well Looking at it here. It says it's made 63

million so far So it's at least it's not one

of those bad video game movies that has a high

budget that only makes 15 15 million so Err,

no, wait, it's not even close. I'm sorry. That's

not million. That's 63 ,000 No, wait a minute.

63. If you're looking at the wiki, it's $63 ,424

,937. So like a spinning distance. It's, yeah.

I mean, did I expect this movie to be... Oscar

worthy? No. Did I expect this movie to be the

best racing movie ever? No. All as I wanted out

of Need for Speed before we get into spoiler

territory, all I wanted out of the film was it

to remain loyal to the game franchise, to have

aspects that I had seen in the games that I had

played, and it did that. It really did. Is the

story new, fresh, and you know... Breaking Bad

Season 5? Hell no, it's not. But it's still a

decent film. I mean, compare this to Fast and

the Furious 3, this is a hell of a lot better

than Tokyo Drift. Ooh, I disagree with you on

that. It's its own animal because it's different

racing plus... The whole idea, the concept within,

you know, with Tokyo Drift is that they got more

to the whole concept of loyalty and such between,

you know, Han and the DK and all that. I don't,

like I said, I don't think it is better than

Tokyo Drift. I think it's on the same level in

a lot of respects. It's definitely going into

it. I was like, it's a Need for Speed movie.

I was like, you know, ring -a -ding -ding, yeehaw.

I wasn't expecting a lot from I was pleasantly

surprised by the movie like there are some flaws

there are some Glaring flaws, but it's it's still

an enjoyable B movie You know if it's not necessarily

you have to completely turn your brain off But

if you're willing if you can at least overlook

some of the flaws in the movie. It's all good

I mean and we'll get into it as we talk about

the plot, but you know I really enjoyed it I

I honestly Going into it. I was praying Aaron

Paul wouldn't go cars, bitch Little Jesse Pinkman

slip out like that. I'm surprised. There's no

there wasn't a surprise cameo by Heisenberg himself

You know, I'm very grateful for that. Thank you

very much. And let me say this again folks Other

reason why I wanted to see this movie is because

I was dying to see Aaron Paul outside of faking

fad True but No, I mean overall there were some

some performances. I like some I really loathed

In a bad way, it's just really And but yeah,

I mean it said we'll get into that more as we

talk about the film here Alright, so we're gonna

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So the basic plot here is, and even though I

do have the wiki up, I am not reading from it,

but I'm just going off of what I remember seeing

in the trailer. The basic plot is, Toby Marshall,

he's basically... People might crucify me that

for saying this he's basically the 21st century

cold trickle is what he is that I took more Alignment

with this movie with days of thunder than anything

else based on Toby's story alone As far as he's

this super awesome driver. He's super confident.

He's a little bit cocky But it's basically him

getting into business with his rival And... He

was played by Tony Stark's dad. Wait, what? Well,

the Dominic Cooper is the guy who played Howard

Stark in Captain America. Oh, okay. I was...

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. He plays Dino Brewster.

And if there was any more of a calling card for

you to hate this douchebag, his name alone...

Makes you want to and and don't get me wrong.

I love Dominic Brewster as an actor. He recently

did this miniseries called Fleming the man who

would be Bond and it's about the life and times

of Ian Fleming the creator of 007 that this dude

can act and I would say he is one of the better

actors in this movie just for the fact that it

takes a really good actor to make a really douchey

villain Yeah, and Dino is a hundred percent douche

Yes, so Dino and Toby get into this race, and

a little bit of backstory. Dino is dating Toby's

ex Flame, who Toby is friends with her brother

still. Yeah, Little Pete. Yeah, Little Pete.

I mean, you might as well have called him Jesse

from Fast and Furious. You might as well have.

Because this movie is Fast and the Furious 1

without all of the street racing party scenes.

That's one of the things I love like where you

know like we get the setup of Toby running his

dad like he's a former car racer and he's running

his dad's old garage with his friends where they

you know they do cars fix up cars and all that

and they have like this uh well drag slash street

race And instead of like the extended pull -up

and you see like all the T &A and everything,

well, you still see it. It's not as pronounced

as a Fast and Furious movie. It's more akin to

something you would actually see in this, in

a small town like that. Yeah. No, no, no. What

I'm saying is there are themes that they've taken

from the other movies. I mean, there's certain

analogies that I can make, because I've seen

the Fast and Furious movies before. So basically

we have this race and this race Little Pete was

not like Toby did not want little Pete anywhere

near this. Yeah, it's basically Well, I mean

to set up the race quickly is the whole idea

is Dino shows up in the movie with this deal

for Tony Toby and his crew to Fix this car that

Carol Shelby like Shelby Cobra Carol Shelby they

he wants him to finish building the last car

he ever worked on he's gonna sell it for a boatload

of cash and Does but only after Toby proves to

the buyer this Englishwoman Julia that the car

can reach 230 miles per hour and This kind of

sets Dino off where he's like I told you not

to do this and He's kind of it's more of an insult

to his honor in a way the fact that you know,

I'm like this rich well -to -do guy and I come

back to this lowly rival of mine and He's like,

okay. I'm gonna screw with him. So he challenges

Toby to this race where if Toby wins he gets

three -quarters of the payout for the Mustang

but if he loses he loses his 25 % that he was

gonna get and along the way little Pete manages

to talk his way into the race and Unfortunately,

it doesn't end up very well for little Pete So

But I mean he goes like they have the race and

it's these extra absolutely beautiful Swiss made

I'm just gonna call him the second part of the

names. He says Swiss made Agueras which these

things look like They look like high -end low

Low to the ground Galerdo's they look like they

they're gonna run like stink That's what they

look like like these things look like they're

just gonna you know, yippee -ki -yay take off

like they just look like speed and There are

other cars in this movie. It's just beautiful

man. Oh my god You just said they look like speed

and all's I can think of is Francesco is triple

speed uh... but most of these three cars uh...

toby is in one piece in the other and you know

is in the final card he was in the red car and

told he's going to win the biggest we got a race

like to the end of this bridge across the interstate

in yes it's like toby pete do you know and then

do you know becomes a dick He taps Pete's car

and it goes... It doesn't go flying. He taps

it, it goes into the air, and instead of flying,

it flips and explodes. That's what I mean. He

taps it, it goes... It does a triple Lindy, basically.

Pretty much, yeah. And then it falls over the

side of the bridge. If it hadn't already burst

in the flame, well, it does when it hits the

riverbank. You know, Pete dies, Dino being the...

Well, he shifts from douche to wussy and runs

away. And Tony is left to take the holding the

bag for what happened. And Dino comes up with

these witnesses that say that there are only

two cars racing and that, you know, him and Pete

had stolen the cars and he... It's your standard

setup. Action movie revenge plot. Yeah, it's

your standard revenge plot I will give the movie,

you know that that kind of a negative about it

is it's it's nothing that we haven't seen before

I still don't care. I still enjoyed it immensely

Because I even though I kind of knew in the back

of my mind Dino would pull a douche move like

that seeing that car do what it did and how Pete

died. That just shocked me all to hell in the

theater when I saw this. Oh, yeah. And one thing

you gotta mention for the folks at home that

this movie was done with like no CGI. Yeah, no,

it's not even done with a lot of stunt people

because I saw an interview with Aaron Paul and

he said if He said that the director said if

you want to do this if you really want to do

the driving It has to be you in the car and people

have to believe that you are doing the driving.

Oh, yeah No, I mean there were stunt drivers,

obviously, but there's some yeah, but like all

the other close -up shots That's actually them

in the car. That's actually yeah, that's actually

Aaron in the car. Oh Cuz I mean, you know later

on we'll get into it later on when you see Aaron

Paul in the Mustang It's like you don't deserve

that car I deserve that car, because I've wanted

a Mustang ever since I was a kid. But yeah, so,

Aaron, Toby goes to jail, you know, nobody believes

his story, except for his crew of, was it Benny?

Julia. Julia believes him. Yeah, Julia, Benny,

Joe, and Finn are the only ones that believe

that Toby wasn't responsible. And now we're...

you know it's two years later and he gets out

and basically Toby goes to Julia's boss this

Mr. Ingram who's like this you know super rich

dude that bought the Mustang for 2 .7 million

he basically is like look I want to get into

this super secret car race out in California

and you know it's run by this guy named Monarch

DJ Monarch he's listed who's played by I'm Batman

Michael Keaton which as much as he is Batman

His performance in his scenes where you're watching

Monarch's web show, he was channeling Beetlejuice,

man, like just that manic energy that he had.

Oh yeah, well, to me it was a combination, and

I know you're gonna hate this, it was a combination

between Beetlejuice and Jack Frost. That energy

Well, no, no, no Let me defend this here It's

a combination of Beetlejuice and Jack Frost from

the same name movie and not in when Jack Frost

not 98. Yeah It's a combination of the Jack Frost

character and Beetlejuice because Jack Frost's

character in that snowman movie had Really really

high energy Sure, you can kind of go with Beetlejuice

more because let's face it in this movie Michael

Keaton looks older than dirt He looks good, but

he looks older than dirt It doesn't look as old

as he did didn't well he looks older here than

in Robocop but but yeah, no, I love the energy

he brought for Monarch and You know, they're

setting up this new race and and he was originally

he's like the first voice you hear in the movie

because it's setting up this backstory of Toby

being a former racer and all that. Toby gets

out and he reunites with Finn who is one of his

crew and he's the guy that flies the airplane

and gives the shout outs of what the traffic's

like and if there are any cops in the area and

all that. They basically go and they get the...

They go back to the garage, Julia shows up with

a car, and they're like, okay, let's beat feet

to California, because they only basically got

two days. And Julia, they have that whole thing

where Julia's like, no, I'm going with you. It's

like, I don't think so. They have, I mean, it

was very well choreographed, like the stunt driving

and all that, but they have this scene where

basically Toby drives like a bat out of hell,

blindfolded, and tries to scare Julia out of

the car, which doesn't work. But I mean then

they go and they meet up I think what is it is

Detroit Yeah, and they meet up with Benny in

Detroit and I love Benny's truck the beast Which

is like this rolling garage, you know gas tank

on board diagnostic gear like this thing just

looks solid You know and they go to pick up Joe

who? Was it? Sorry, I think I might get getting

up the No, okay, I know it is Joe Ramon Rodriguez

is the actor he played Joe who is drive Benny

is The guy working in the office, you know, obviously,

you know He's divorced himself from cars and

everything and he looks like he's wound a little

too tight They call Joe and they can go to the

window and they have Tony just Reving the hell

out of this car You know in front of the building

and you see just you see the magic, you know,

all of a sudden it all cut that Yeah, that monkey

is back on Joe's back and He quits his job it

like one of the most ridiculous and almost completely

unnecessary Scenes in the film where he strips

down and not to his boxers was he strips down

naked? Walks into an elevator which it has one

of my favorite Lides of the movie where he looks

at this old lady from a county and he just looks

here Don't you ever feel like you're dying inside

and she responds with every day And then he walks

out and joke a bit. Yeah, sorry. That's Benny

Joe comes up and he's like, what are you doing?

He's like backing away ready to wait. He's like,

come on man. Give me a hug like he's just Having

the time of his life walking out like this and

then Joe asked him like what the hell are you

doing? And he's like you think I'm gonna want

to go back to this But yes, just just to be clear

Benny is Liar one Benny is the helicopter. No,

that's anything No, yeah, I'm looking at the

wiki right now The hell is going on I swear to

God, yes Then the link I clicked on sent me to

the wrong page See, oh my god, that's a kid Cuddy.

Yeah kid Cuddy is Benny Okay, never mind ignore

me folks back to the story. See I told you so

they have to go get the third member of the team

and He actually as you said, you know, he goes

through this whole very unnecessary scene, but

it's kind of like It's kind of like a Jerry Maguire

moment. I was half expecting Benny to say to

him, show me the money, because I thought he

was going to say, who's coming with me? Yeah.

Yeah. Well, see, here's the thing with with Joe

walking out the way he did. It's very jerry maguire

to me. Oh, yeah, it's It's not as angry as Tom

Cruise was in jerry maguire, but it's very much

like that and Yeah, the the scene with asking

the other lady about you know Don't you feel

like you're dying inside and then the the coup

de grace before we even get to hugging Benny

is Him kissing the girl. He's like I've been

dying to do that since day. I walked in here

before he drops trout You see him he had the

he has to stand on his toes to kiss her like

that I was like, you know what dude if you're

If you're gonna quit like that that that is one

of the best quitting walking out scenes that

I've seen in a while and that's up there with

like Wesley's quitting scene in the movie wanted

Mm -hmm. So but yeah, so they get out and the

whole scene the whole time this is going on Toby's

outside dealing with this cop pulls up at the

cop is like very He doesn't want to like do anything

to get him in trouble He keeps yelling just pull

it around the corner and Toby's just revving

the car He didn't do you'll see him spinning

a finger around his one ear. I can't hear you.

It's too loud And I love that line, is this your

car? This car? Oh no, this car is way too expensive.

Like he's just fucking, pardon my French, but

he's just fussing with the cop so hard. And there

is a point to this. Because once they take off,

because I guess, you know, he's got like a hood

mounted cam. and just so I get the character

right Benny is flying overhead in Cessna and

he's recording everything and this is all they

send all these videos to Monarch yeah of like

the the ad there's like that we're gonna do a

grasshopper and Julie what's a grasshopper he

just looks at her with that's Aaron Paul has

the greatest sly smile that he does and he hits

the gas and he goes up this embankment and he

dukes a hazards this car man and it's like and

when you see the front when they when he's just

starting to come in for the landing and they

Go to this camera that's looking at the front

of the car. You're just like, oh, please land

right. Please land right. Please land right.

Because you see he's going to it looks like he's

going to bury the Mustang and he pulls it off.

Yeah, he pulls it off really well. See, here's

the thing that's so great about this movie. It

isn't the plot. It isn't some of the acting.

What is so great for me personally with this

film. Again, I cannot say enough how true to

the games they are Oh, yeah, like because you

can do that kind of jump stunt in the games You

can do all the stuff that he's doing You can

do that in the games now. I will say to back

up a little bit with the original race before

He got before Pete died. Yeah, originally. I

thought that it was gonna be a setup that the

bridge was gonna be out And basically, Dino Douchebag

would have just let them sail off the bridge

before, you know what I mean? That's what I was

originally thinking. I wasn't even thinking that

Dino was gonna, you know, rub Pete the wrong

way, because after all, Rub and Son is racing.

You know, I just I thought it was gonna go a

very very different way So yeah, so they do all

this stuff. They do the grasshopper and I love

I Love the code names I love all the code names

for all the stuff and the fact that he has to

explain it to her and and she basically just

Tells him why couldn't you just said what it

was originally without having to go through?

You know, it's that's a cute little bit between

them in the car. They're caught like especially

when he's like there They're these like why are

you wearing high heels is like they're like?

Whatever Gucci whatever they were and then that

translates into the car bits But yeah, it's just

some of that that was just one of the most beautiful

stunts And like I said, I love Mustangs and seeing

that thing. I thought it was gonna nosedive hardcore

Just seeing it come in. But yeah, so they they

make these movies they get out of Detroit they

they they take a side road and they avoid the

cops and all that And and I love the the way

the cops were dealing with him both in this bit

and later on in the final race It really harken

back to stuff from like hot pursuit and most

wanted He has elements from the game that they

you know that they use like that and also the

thing that they took that side Road that still

got him out of town and all and in the original

street race that Pete and Toby were in through

their hometown in mount kitsko uh how they took

like that side street like the alley exit and

you know shortcuts like that really that really

impressed me because that's that's something

that you would see in the need for speed games

oh yeah most definitely you know and i think

it was around this thing like they said they

send these videos into monarch and he realizes

you know it's toby marshall so he's like welcome

to daylion like this underground race well see

here's the thing now Didn't in his narration

earlier didn't monarch say that? De Leon was

actually an actual person at one point and he

retired his his he said something in the narration

about this guy who used to do racing but his

ticker got to I think something happened with

his heart and my my assumption is that Monarch

is de Leon since he says it is his race. I think

so it's The only thing I remember exactly what

he said is because he was talking about Toby

and his narration like all that stuff he did

say I just don't remember exactly what he said

but he says you know if Toby ever got a car worthy

of him he would totally have an invite to daily

on and now he has like this absolutely gorgeous

Mustang oh my god I want that car so bad yes

yes you do so yeah so monarch gives him the invite

Then Dino Douchebag calls in to and that's for

that's what we're gonna call him for the rest

of the movie screw Brewster He's Dino Douchebag

from now on Where where is Fred when you really

need someone to lick? So, you know double D here

calls into monarchs webcast and says, you know,

this is a complete joke and Toby doesn't deserve

to be in here I mean look what he did and monarch,

you know Kind of plays with them is like I don't

I think Monarch kind of doesn't necessarily care

that Toby's innocent but he played he Doesn't

believe that Toby was responsible, you know that

sort of thing. So he plays with you know that

and Dino puts up a lamp was it? Let me see he

puts up his lamp Lamborghini Lamborghini sesto

elemental. Yeah, he puts that up for people.

He basically puts that up as a bounty reward

for people to basically either have the cops

capture or have people kill. Well, I think it's

not even necessarily a cops and like the cops

are already looking for Toby because I mean,

he's, he's jumped, uh, skipped his parole, uh,

whatever the proper phrase is. He's, he skipped

out on his parole. You know, he's, he's engaged

in all this dangerous driving behavior. You know,

he's run across however many states by this point.

And so the bounty is more so just somebody to

just take him out However, he is taken out is

kind of left up to the bounty hunters at this

point Yeah, you know, but so he puts this bounty

out and after they have this were a little bit

before this you see that it's not all wine and

roses getting across country because they almost

get busted at this truck stop and I seen imaging

poots in of some other movies she is a really

good actress, but There's something about the

way she runs into this cop and In the truck stop

there Yeah, and it's it's just the way she she

does like this. I wouldn't say is god -awful

but ill -conceived like kind of southern accent

she's just trying to talk all this smack about

this and a lot of its jargon that she's learned

from like you know, Benny and Joe and Toby talking

and all that. And, you know, it just it didn't

play and then the cop like chases after and she

runs upstairs into this room. The cop tries busting

the door down, gives up, runs back downstairs,

is about to take off and Toby had wrapped his

chain from this rot that was in this back of

this truck. He gets the I don't know how Toby

did this because this dog was ready to kill.

kill somebody gets the dog in the truck ties

the chain to like i think the truck or one of

the light posts there tie and ties the other

end of it to the cop car this thing it's like

when dx tied a chain to vince mcmahon's limo

a few years ago and just like the rear axle and

part of the drive shaft just gets you hanged

right out from under it and the cops like the

hell or you could go another racing movie reference

and say that it was kind of like Memphis hooking

old Johnny B's car up to the big rig and gone

in 60 seconds. Oh that I just love those you

got permits for these weapons. Oh, I just love

this that shot of Nicolas Gage with you saluting

them with a cup of coffee there that But yeah,

so they get going at one point these guys come

after the bounty and It's a fairly intense scene

because at this point Julia has taken over driving

the Mustang because you know Toby needs to get

some sleep And they these guys come out and like

some like kind of dune buggy You know kind of

pet light pickups and lift kits come after them.

Yeah, it's Saying well, this is what I'm saying

folks need for speed while it is true to the

games It's a mishmash combination of various

other racing film plots and devices over the

years I've seen gone in 60 seconds in this movie.

I've seen bits and fast nefarious films the whole

lift kit thing is from fast five you know but

i mean at this point there is like the arizona

desert so you kind of need stuff like that right

now i'm i'm not saying it wasn't necessary i'm

just saying i see a bunch of other racing type

movies in this film i mean hell if you really

want to you know compare it to to a Pixar film,

this is essentially the live action version of

Cars because he goes from New York to California.

And you know what I mean? It's not a I still

enjoyed the film. Now you're talking about the

scene in the desert was that that was before

she gets put in the hospital, right? Yeah. Oh,

yeah. No, because. Yeah. Not to skip ahead too

much, but yeah, I did love that thing where before

they get into like the really dangerous part

where she's starting to freak out driving she

plays chicken It just I love again because I

love the fact they do absolutely no CGI in this

movie there. It's there's these two cars coming

towards the Mustang and she plays chicken with

the the showroom car You know, cause she's like,

cause he's compensating for some deficiency and

she holds up her pinky. We have no idea to what

she is referring. And the Hummer's driving along

like the mountain face or whatever on that side

of the road. And he pulls to the right and runs

into the goddamn mountain. Like, you idiot! But

clearly he loved the Hummer enough to not run

into the Mustang, but he didn't love it enough

to not run into the mountain. And then you know

at this point that they get chased up to the

top of like a top to that to the top of about

that that that that and then You know Maverick

shows up You know Yeah, Liar 1. Oh, I love that,

Liar 1, because he supposedly was in the Army

or the Air Force, and everyone else in the crew

just calls Bull the whole time. And he shows

up with an Army tow helicopter with cables that

they latch through the blown -open windows from

a shotgun. Or is it just the rear window got

shut out? I think but they they tie it off and

it gets hauled away to the salt flats you know,

and then they let it go and then he's like Mavericks

gotta go away for a while because the he's essentially

conned this old army buddy of his to let him

take the helicopter out and then these two effort

to jet fighters come up and escort them back

to base and well He's basically put into like

the military who scale for a while. Yeah Now

this whole scene here, I was like, oh no, they

pulled a Sky 1. They pulled a Batman on us, because

it reminded me of Skyhook. Not Sky 1, Skyhook.

They pulled a Skyhook on us, because I knew from

watching Dark Knight that Skyhook was... Well,

Lucius said it in the movie that Skyhook was

something the military was working on, and bam,

here it is, X number of years later, a Need for

Speed movie. I was like, oh, that is so cool.

There was a little bit of confusion for me in

my part of watching, so we had something all

go in at the end of the show. But yeah, they

get to the South Flats, they haul ass to San

Francisco, they just make it. and you, they go

to this fancy, fancy hotel. And Toby runs into

douchebag Dino. And they have this moment which,

and you see how completely unrepentant this D

bag is. And Tony is like, Toby, sorry. Toby is

like the proverbial hair away from just unloading

the beast on him. Like the whole movie, one of

the best things about this movie is Aaron Paul's

acting, I think, in that you see that he's been

in stir for two years. He's been plotting his

revenge this whole time. And here he is. He wants

to get revenge in the way he planned. But you

see he's fighting back that Hulk inside of him.

He's just ready to just unload on Dino, which

I really love that scene. And then he goes and

he... Does something in the hotel and the car

on like the whole time like monarchs got this

racing? Like this racing app that they have on

their touchscreen in the car. Yeah, they get

this message daily own be here tomorrow 9 a .m

Yeah, and they pull out of the hotel's parking

lot and Semi truck BAM. Yeah, the car gets flipped

the the Mustang as well and truly screwed at

this point and in the back of my mind I thought

they're gonna have like this intense 12 -hour

restoring of the car see that's the thing that

kind of that's the thing that kind of pisses

me off about this whole thing is they they go

on this cross -country trek to get to the daily

own in the muscle you know yes Dino has His he

has this bounty out so everybody and their mother

is gonna come out and try to either kill these

people or turn them in or steal the car themselves

or whatever the hell at no point between The

time the first bounty hunters attack them and

the time that the car is smashed Do they go and

repair it the whole time that they were doing

the sky hook and they landed in the salt flats.

I thought that the beast was there to help them

repair the friggin car they don't repair the

car by the time they get to the hotel because

the back window is still shot out and he's saying

and don't go wrong i really love like you i love

erin paul's acting in this movie but he says

to her all you'll be safe with me tonight you

know you'll you'll you know the whole rule you'll

romantic comedy with me in the yeah well no but

here's the thing Why are you going to get a fucking

hotel room? When the back window of your fucking

car is shot out That's what I don't get if they're

supposed to keep this car so they can race it

Why would they not fix it before he went and

confronted friggin Dino? He should have never

done that He should have never gone to the hotel

in the first place to confront Dino. I don't

think he went there to confront him a they have

to go there to register i think in some way i

don't think so because no i don't think so because

he said uh... i'll be right back i had a handle

something he said that to the clerk is they asked

him if he was checking in and he didn't say yes

or no and then he went to find dino any found

it okay in that hotel so I don't understand why

the whole hotel scene actually even happened

if you have the back window of your car shot

out and Anyone could climb through that and steal

your friggin car. Well, he left Julia there so

But I mean it made little to no sense But yeah,

so they pull out and this guy that in some earlier

scenes who's been established as Dino's Flunky

goon hired goons and then he raps it with like

this semi -trailer and you know just casually

backs up and drives away and You know Toby gets

Julie out and the beast shows up with Benny and

or not Benny Joe and I keep forgetting his name

Joe and Finn there we go and yeah, Joe and Finn

and they get her to a hospital and The fact that

they roll up like this is like you don't hear

any real like what happened to her or anything

but so was it yeah Joe and Toby go and Toby gets

in contact with his ex Anita like Pete's older

sister and but this point you see to see where

she's well Dino's dealing with some business

She goes in because she's starting to suspect

deal with all the like him putting this bounty

out and everything She goes in his computer and

finds that he's stored Stored stored the agar

that he drove in the race that killed Pete in

this conveniently enough storage in his own warehouse

Well storage locker is something in San Francisco,

right? But it's his cuz it says check inventory

on it. So it's basically his dealership's inventory,

so he stored it in his own friggin' warehouse.

Well, it's not... But it was clear across the

country from where the accident happened, so...

Right, right. It's not like the cops would have

had any, uh, or the impetus to check that, but

yeah, so she... She and Toby talk, she says she's

left Dino, gives him the ring that Dino gave

her, gave him the passcode and the keys to the

car... And so they and I thought again at this

point because with the Mustang I thought they

were gonna get the Mustang and as they walk through

this storage locker you look at it's a almost

set up like a garage because you see all like

Tools and all sorts of gear there and they pull

it off and they see yeah This is the car. So

essentially Toby steals the car goes to the race

and I love how he Walks up to Dino whose Dino

basically has the second pole position the front

of the line. There's the six cars. You know,

he rolls up in the Aguera. He he goes up and

you hear him do the two knuckle ratatat tat like

a cop on the window and Dino won't even look

at him and he's like uh so I got a new card.

Oh yeah and he just said to give you this and

just the look of actual pain on Douchebag Dino's

face when he sees the ring and he's just like

oh son of a **** You know and This is the most

true to the game scene in the movie. What follows

is this final race? Yeah along the PCH And just

to look at some of the cars in this race. I mean

you got You you got the red Aguera that Toby's

driving you've got a the McLaren P1 which is

Actually one of the cars featured in the Need

for Speed Rivals game. There's the like in douchebag

Dino's Elemento which I found this article it

says if the Lamborghini looks familiar it's because

Batman's tumbler in the Dark Knight was a Lamborghini

Hummer hybrid and I was like yeah I could see

that I mean that thing totally has a Batmobile

look to it there was the the Bugatti Veyron which

it looks like I would totally love to try that

car out. I don't think I could handle any of

these pieces of machinery, but I would just sit

in the driver's seat and make vroom, vroom noises.

But yeah, so the movie goes and Toby has got

the final position and very quickly he gets up

into fifth and a couple of the cars are taken

out in spectacular fashion. I love the fact that

there is a cop at one point You hear the cops

talking on the radio that don't forget about

the spike strip. They're going too fast Because

like the first car even the first cars tires

are taken out like the Bugatti Veyron it the

the sheer wind from its You know acceleration

would have blown the strip off the road. Oh Yeah,

and then they have that one cop who MacGyver's

his car with his nightstick and you know that

he turns it over and he hits the shift and how

he did not get his arm taken off because let's

face it that thing was going like you you better

have the reflexes of a cat sir you know that

oh yeah that takes out another car and in very

shorter it's down to Toby and Dino and they're

racing to like this lighthouse and you see Dino

true to form tries to tap Toby and shut Just

looking at Aaron Paul's face like you see him

like he's like stressing out and he's Like you

see he's in you know, he's driving this car Like

you know, he that's the best part of the acting

as far as the racing goes like when you get those

the the headshots of like Dominic Cooper and

Aaron Paul's like he that's really them, you

know, they're in the car they're racing which

is really what sold this for me and But Dino

tries to tap Toby's agarra and he, Toby lets

off the gas at just the right moment so that

Dino flips and crashes and cars on fire and you

think he's gonna get his just desserts and Toby

does that, you know, he goes a little bit further

down the road and he'll win and possibly get

away and he turns around and... You know does

the honorable thing he turns around and goes

back and everybody who's watching the race like

Monarchs watching you know Joe and Finn Benny's

in jail and is somehow charmed the female guard

watching Like standing there holding an iPad

where she in reality she would have just told

up the ghost screw Yeah, you know what he's sitting

there do is that that's my boy. Oh, give me some

space Give me some space starts doing a happy

dance, and then they're all like idiot you know,

going back on this thing, right? And he totally

rescues him. Oh, and this is for Pete. And just,

just drifts of one good and proper, and then

he finishes the race. Yeah. Now see, here's the

thing, okay? The message of this movie is that

you always go back. Yeah. You always... have

this whole racing culture has safety protocols.

You don't do douchebag Dino type of moves to

people. You don't intentionally bump somebody

to make their car flip over triple times and

explode. Unless you're pink. That's what I'm

saying. What really gets me though is the way

that the plot is basically It's You always go

back because like Toby just keeps going back

to what? Yeah, but see here's the thing the problem

I have with the plot of the film is the fact

that they they expositioned it like the first

five minutes of the movie They expositioned the

finale of the they basically spoiled their own

movie in the first five to ten minutes of the

movie because to be there uh... what's his name

will pete says i have this vision you're gonna

be between this ocean in this ocean at this lighthouse

and boom guess what happens in the movies he's

at a friend lighthouse in between these two of

us will be just gonna staring and just like son

of a bitch you know here was it you know and

here's the other thing about this movie what

i do like about it is i like that they just Passed

by the whole jail thing him being in jail is

just Okay, he did this he has to go away. Yeah,

you don't see him like they thought they don't

or anything right, right They don't make it,

you know an additional 10 to 15 minutes of footage

of him in jail plotting or Of at first Anita

and then later Julia coming to see him etc etc

etc. They use it as okay He did all this stuff.

He's got to go to jail. Yeah, he gets out He

then goes on his his track at the end of the

movie He gets caught again for you know racing

cars and and you know all this and all that and

he What is it? What is it like a hundred and

seventy eight days? We did another six months

in a California jail Right right and he gets

out and Julie is there with What I assume is

another version of the same Mustang Looking at

it. It could possibly be or it could just be

another high -end Mustang. She's like I'll drive

it He's like no no no no no no I've seen you

drive. Yeah, and then they take off and you know

all as well and They got to go pick up Benny

and you see Benny They make mention of Benny

started an exercise program for inmates and they

get that little after credit scene. Oh my God,

that was, you know what? I've never really listened

to Kid Cudi's music, but the dude was hilarious

throughout this movie. He was. I mean, to go

over the cast once more for those that came in

late, you know, we got. Jesse Pinkman himself,

Aaron Paul as Toby, Dominic Cooper, Tony Stark's

dad as Dino Brewster, Imogen Poots as Julia,

Kid Cudi as Benny, Ramon Rodriguez who I completely

forgot because I completely forgot about the

Charlie's Angels TV remake. He was the new Bosley.

Uh, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. Yeah. No, no, no.

I, you're right. I'm just saying, Oh God, no,

stop. And you know what, as much, I never really

watched the original series and I loved Bill

Murray's Bosley in the first one, but my favorite

was Bernie Mac, just Bosley, what's happening,

angels, you know, and he's got that smile on

his face. It's like, come on, how could you not

love the guy? You know, we got Batman. We got,

uh, Dakota Johnson as Anita Coleman Harrison

Gilbertson his little Pete who I swear I know

that guy from someplace I just can't place it

and there Were some other actors there was the

the cop and just excuse my key -clicking for

a second He was in no look no What's his name

Harrison Gilbertson he? Australian rules accident

have accidents happen blessed beneath hills 60.

What's wrong with Virginia? Conspiracy 365 haunt

last year need for speed this year and fall in

next year So he hasn't done a lot. Yeah. No,

I was just pulling it up here on the wiki He

was the head bounty hunter in Chronicles of Riddick

Just looking here to make sure I got this right

Yeah, that's him as Nick chinlund he was the

the cop that tries almost to arrest Julia in

the truck stop Okay, you know I wanted to name

cat Patrick kill Patrick, but that's another

badass character actor altogether No, I like

I loved I think one of the things I loved in

the movie and we spoke about this when we're

talking about the plot is the the whole thing

with Benny saying you know he used to be in the

military and he could fly anything and Joe Finn

and Toby calling bull and it's uh I love that

I love the the interplay one of my favorite things

was the interplay between Toby and Julia in this

movie like you see like this genuine relationship

grow between the two which kind of call me you

know obviously they're together at the end of

the movie You know when they kiss but it really

for me it really kind of culminates where they

We're gonna get a hotel and you'll stay with

me tonight, and she just gives it this look that

says oh really Yeah, and he's like I mean you'll

be safer with me. I mean I'm just gonna shut

up and drive now Yeah, and then crash yeah See

for me. Here's here's the thing now As I've said

throughout the last you know however long this

episode is gonna be For me, I went in with zero

expectations other than as long as they remain

true to the game elements, like the various locales,

which they did. It's a cross -country trek to

get from New York to California, and I have seen

a lot of different scenes in this movie or scenery

in this movie that I remember from the games,

like that whole forest scene. There's, um, I

think it's Need for Speed Most Wanted. The 2005

game, uh, has a bunch of forest scenes and there's

city scenes in games and, you know, there's,

there's desert and beach scenes. So I like that.

I liked it. The police stuff was accurate to

the games as well. What, you know, the spike

strips and the, I will say, I will say the news

10 chopper was a little, I was like, wait a second.

police helicopters don't fly that low and then

i realized oh yeah it's it's it's it's liar one

yeah uh... uh... this and as far as scenes that

were completely unnecessary where where he's

flying he's he's tracking the three lovely ladies

jogging along the river so you know what you

know it's i forget what the name of the actual

news guys like what's up a traffic check you

know it is like it's good it's all good Got to

commercial got to commercial No, uh the what

and like I said earlier the one thing that kind

of confused me about this movie is Watching the

trailer and seeing like where they haul the car

off the cliff in that I Mistakenly thought that

the the gate the movies plot was borrowing from

the run in that they start in San Francisco and

they're and I thought they were adapting the

run really because they they started I thought

they were starting in San Francisco and racing

across the country like west to east and then

he started that Toby starts off in the agera

and then he gets the Mustang somewhere along

the way you know I thought maybe they were going

to do that and the other thing like I said I

thought they were going to have like and I was

pleasantly surprised by this I thought they were

going to do the intense you know 12 -hour retrofit

fixing of the car Because because so much of

the promotion of the movie is you know hit Toby

most yeah Toby in this Mustang and then they

know that doesn't pan out so No, I am I am very

this movie was an hour No, this movie was two

hours and ten minutes. It was 130 minutes long.

I'm glad that it was only two hours ten minutes

It didn't feel too short. It didn't feel too

long to me, and I'm glad they didn't do like

Yes, would I have liked them to like here's here

Here's what I would have liked to have seen if

if if you wanted them to do the the fix the Mustang

thing if they did that I would want them to show

them starting that and then go over to Dino and

see his criminal ways While they're doing that.

That's what I would have liked to have seen to

make the time pass Yeah, I don't I don't think

that was necessary. I'm glad it wasn't in it

uh the music what did you think of the music

did you did normally i noticed the music and

sometimes in this i didn't i think because i

don't know if it was the theater i was in but

the scene where they're in the hospital with

julia and then it cuts to him racing or it cuts

to him driving somewhere the soft scene in the

hospital to that scene of him on the open road

it was like a huge letdown for me as far as the

sound because it was not I don't know if it was

the engine of the car that was too loud as far

as a sound effect or whatever else but I was

like I almost went deaf after the hospital scene

because the because the engine of the car was

too loud and I'm used to going to movies stop

typing damn it sorry You know, so, I don't know,

but, um, for me, oh, stop typing, dammit! For

me, overall, I did really enjoy the movie. Sure,

there are flaws in this movie. Is it going to

get a perfect for me? Not really, because I didn't

care for, like you said, the helicopter scene

and, yeah, okay, sure, he did that, it was funny,

but it wasn't exactly necessary. you know, staring

at women's asses in a helicopter. The whole Jerry

Maguire scene with Joe basically stripped down

and basically dropping Trout to quit his job,

that was a little unnecessary. But other than

that, I really enjoyed the movie. Yeah, as far

as the soundtrack goes, there was a couple of

songs. There was a Fortunate Son back in the

saddle. But as far as the soundtrack goes, I

honestly going into this movie, one of my main

fears was this was going to be music from and

inspired by the film sort of soundtrack. And

aside from like the two songs that were in the

film, it was pretty much just scores throughout

every scene, which was I love that fact with

a racing thing, you know, because as much as

I love Fast and Furious, just having Songs play

over certain races and that it just distracts

you from everything so but I mean overall I'm

kind of give the movie like say if we use our

you know, the GCR in scale. I'm gonna give it

a three Barely passing why it's well three and

a half really it's just It's not quite there

and a lot of things like I like the movie a lot.

It's a solid B movie, but it's It's it's a lot

of little things. It's like they know some It

almost felt disjointed how they get from like

Detroit all the way to Arizona And you don't

really see anything in between except for like

that truck stop Little bits like I it's not that

I just like the character of Pete but that whole

thing about him having the vision it just That

was yeah, they bring it up so prominently and

it's not that I thought they wasted time setting

up the crew in the beginning. It's just You know,

I thought there would be a lot more racing in

a movie called need for speed not that there

wasn't plenty of it It's just I thought there'd

be a bit more Even if they were playing have

racing over like quick cuts of him zipping through

different states You see, you know now entering,

you know, North Dakota or something like that.

So yeah Actually, you know what? I'll raise it.

I'll give it a solid four. It's almost there,

but not quite. Yeah, I'm also going to give it

a four, which is a really liked it. So we're

going to take a quick break and then we're going

to come back with some sequel predictions after

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right, we are back here on M wire and What do

we think about? Sequels first of all do you think

this is going to get a sequel at all? Well like

we said at the top of the show the film is Damn

near made back its money which in If I can channel

my inner movie producer that means sequel because

obviously they've made their money back We might

get a direct -to -DVD sequel, who knows if they

were to do a theatrical release. I would hope

that they maybe take a look at the storyline.

Because when you talk about storyline in the

games, basically from most wanted, through the

four games, not most wanted, underground through

carbon, you basically play the same nameless

racer. So you could do, say, the even the plot

if it was the plot from most wanted you know

do that because that's got that that was like

fast and furious the game which was better than

the actual fast and furious game yeah or even

if they if they wanted to adapt the run the plot

light of that game you know somewhat I'd be down

with that, you know, if it was an original thing

with an actual series of races, it's more in

the vein of a Fast and Furious sort of mold.

I'd be down for that. I could see at least one

sequel. I don't think this is going to become

like the next hot franchise, but, you know, and

if they did, like if they do do a franchise and

if it's like a different main racer every time.

See, that's what I was thinking because this

is essentially a standalone film. See, I was

hoping for a credit sequence where Toby meets

somebody else or Toby meets another racer and

they have a new rivalry or something like that.

That's what I was hoping for a post credit sequence.

I was not hoping for Benny twerking with the

other prisoners because that is another thing

about Benny in this film. absolutely embraces

the twerk, and that should never, ever happen.

No man should ever embrace the twerk. You have

failed at life, Kid Cudi. You have failed at

life. For me, as much as I loved Aaron Paul in

this, and as much as I'm interested to see what

else he does past this, I don't know if I want

to see Toby in these characters again because

we have their story beginning, middle, and end.

And it doesn't tease anything for a sequel, which

is fine. They don't have to tease a sequel all

the time, and I agree with you. I think if they're

going to do a sequel, it needs to be someone

completely new and different in a different set

of circumstances, a different city, you know,

starting city instead of upstate New York, etc.,

etc., etc. Yeah, no see what as much as this

is inspired by the video game series I never

thought of it really as a video game movie. I

It's more in the lines of like, you know, I mean

you could even reference bullet I mean hell they

were showed it at the movie theater before the

very first race at the drive -in there It's it's

more akin to something like bullet. It's more

of like it was an action racing movie. Sure.

It's just There was more of a story there. I

mean, however well it was executed. Yeah But

I really like I said, I really did enjoy the

movie. Like I said, I gave it a four I think

it's a solid movie solid be there are some flaws,

but it's a lot of fun and Yeah, like I said,

it's just it's it's it's its own beast It's it's

it's a standalone thing if they decide to do

sequels or spin -off or whatever I wouldn't necessarily

see Toby coming back. I'd definitely see Joe

Flynn and Benny coming back. And anyone, maybe

two of them have moved on and they get tied up

with a new racing crew and shit. But yeah, I

could see maybe one sequel, theatrical or not.

Yeah, yeah, I think for me I really enjoyed the

film. Like I said one sequel will be fine for

me. This does not have to be the next Fast and

the Furious franchise the Fast and the Furious

franchise is what it is and that franchise has

evolved into more of a heist Movie kind of thing

more so that street racing Yeah, it's evolved

more into an action film franchise than a street

racing franchise. So as always, you can keep

up with us on iTunes. You can just search out

Movie Weekend Review or MWIRE. Both the regular

MWIRE, the spoiler -filled episodes like this,

and MWIRE Weekly, which is Kevin, Nathan, and

Matt doing their thing, talking about the weekly

stuff with all the box office information and

everything else. I will say for Need for Speed...

It did hold the number one spot at the box office

over the weekend that it opened for a little

while until That dumbass dog in his way back

machine Jumped ahead in time of them, but I mean

need for speed it it finished third Over the

weekend box office that it was out. So I mean

finishing third versus finishing tenth or something,

you know, something like Super Mario Brothers

or what's some other bad video game movies, Alone

in the Dark. I'm sorry, they never made a Super

Mario movie. Yes, they did. No, they didn't.

Yes, they did. Never happened. Yes, it did. Lies.

I oughta make you just sit there and do commentary

with me for that. But anyway, where can the people

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can find me on the Twitter, at JT from Saskatoon.

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will be episode 103, when we find out that Kermit

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