Kids Incorporated

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Radio Network. Alright, today, for the last time

in Season 1, I am That's right folks I am writing

solo one more time and today I will be talking

about Bye! Right, folks, we are talking about

Kids Incorporated at long last. But before we

get too far into our discussion, here's a little

background information on the show. Kids Incorporated

debuted in 1984 and ran nine seasons until 1994,

spanning 154 episodes, first airing in syndication

and later on the Disney Channel. For those of

you that don't know, Kids Incorporated, much

like our show last week, The Mickey Mouse Club,

Was a variety show featuring child performers

and the show included segments with some skits

and Comedy bits and a whole lot of singing a

whole lot of songs My memories of kids incorporated.

I remember the heck out of the theme song that

is for sure Definitely had some strong memories

of kids incorporated I didn't necessarily know

who was involved in Kids Incorporated. I wasn't

aware of what stars were involved at all. But

I just remember music and seeing them sing along,

you know, sing songs that I knew, current songs,

old songs, and just kind of the whole skit thing.

I don't remember Kids Incorporated or Mickey

Mouse Club as much as I... Remember like you

can't do that on television and some of those

shows even Sharon Lawson Bram Because I didn't

watch them a lot But I knew it existed And a

lot of people don't know anything about kids

and corporate a lot of people Don't remember

it Or if you say the name don't even know it

was a show which is weird It's probably one of

the only shows that was on for ten seasons that

has so few people remember it More people probably

remember the Mickey Mouse Club, and this really,

for all intents and purposes, was on longer and

for more seasons, etc. So it definitely flew

under the radar as far as nowadays and people

talking about it. Something that really quickly

faded into obscurity, which is kind of weird.

But like I said, I don't remember the specific

people. I don't remember specific skits. So I'm

kind of another reason or another person is just

adding to that obscurity I guess but I do remember

the theme song and I do remember the kind of

the rough format of the show and kind of what

it consisted of. So yeah, I mean those are my

basic memories of Kids Incorporated and most

of my knowledge about Kids Incorporated actually

comes in just researching for the show which

I guess we can get right into first and foremost

which is What is the who's who of Kids Incorporated?

Now with Mickey Mouse Club, we had a lot of stars.

We had Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera

and Justin Timberlake and Ryan Gosling and, you

know, J .C. Shazay. We had a lot of people. So,

I mean, the list kind of went on and on. And

it would seem like maybe that's more why more

people remember, quote unquote, even though if

they're not remembering, there's kind of selective

memory, retro memory. because of so many stars

that they've been pointed back to it and they've

seen clips people posted about oh look at Britney

Spears when she was young or oh look at Justin

Timberlake when he was young. So I think it's

more of that than actually remembering the show

and that's why Mickey Mouse Club seemingly is

more remembered than Kids Incorporated just because

of the number of stars it had. Not saying that

Kids Incorporated was without stars though. The

group members of Kids Incorporated range in age

from 8 to 17. uh... from seasons four to five

there were six members in seasons one to three

and six to nine it always consisted of three

girls and and two boys uh... a lot of different

cast members over the years you know at least

uh... two dozen you know somewhat regulars uh...

some people are only on for one season some people

were on for you know five or six seasons uh...

really though there was only about five or six

people that were on for more than two or three

seasons. Most notably, probably as far as the

length on the show, because she started in, you

know, 1984 and went all the way through 1989,

she was on six seasons, would be Fergie. Stacy

Ferguson, you know, most people know her with

her work from Black Eyed Peas, etc., but Fergie

was on Kids Incorporated. Obviously, the one

that I know the most would be Jennifer Love Hewitt

from 1989 to 1991. It was on season 6 and season

7. Jennifer Love Hewitt on the show, she was

just credited as Love Hewitt as she did when

she was a kid until she added the Jennifer Love

Hewitt part. There was a bunch of other people.

Moosey Dreyer, Rashaun Patterson, Renee Sands,

Marta Martika Marrero, which we'll talk about

her. You probably don't recognize the name, but

you will recognize the something else that she's

known for when we get to that point. Kenny Ford

Jr. But these are just the actors, people that

were credited as singers, etc. There was a whole

host of people that were dancers as well, most

notably one by the name of Mario Lopez. A .C.

Slater from Safe by the Bell was a dancer on

Kids Incorporated. Now, actors left the show

when they aged out, quote unquote, of their roles

as kids. You know, since the show took 10 years,

obviously you couldn't have the same people on

all 10 years. They wouldn't fit as, you know,

that middle school slash high school age group.

So definitely people got too old for their roles

and had to leave the show. Other people were

written and I... Some people were written into

the script as leaving the show. They did that

kind of more so at the beginning where, you know,

when characters were actually getting too old

for the show, they would write them out. Sometimes,

though, they were just replaced without comment.

Some people just basically disappeared and then

they didn't even address it. The show also had

a range of guest stars, both celebrities and

newcomers, people like Florence Henderson, Barry

Williams, David Hasselhoff, Ruth Buzzi, famous

voice actor there, and then young actors who

guest starred on Kids Incorporated included,

here you go with a couple here, Brittany Murphy,

1992, Scott Wolfe, and Jeff Cohen, who you might

know as Chunk from the Goonies, had some guest

appearances on Kids Incorporated. So early appearances

definitely of Brittany Murphy and Scott Wolfe,

of course Scott Wolfe and Jennifer Love Hewitt

would go on to both. Co -star in Party of Five,

so an early meeting there. You got Fergie, you

got Mario Lopez, so you do have some star power.

It doesn't maybe get enough credit. I don't think

as many people know that all these people were

on Kids Incorporated, like the people know that

such -and -such were on Mickey Mouse Club, but

there's just about as much star power here. Just

maybe not those ultimate divas like you have

with, you know, Christina Aguilera, Justin Timberlake,

and Britney Spears. So, that's basically the

who's who. We'll get into more as far as what

they're doing now and what they've been known

for after the show a little bit later. But this

is the time of the show where we get to go into

the good, the bad, the ugly. That's right, it's

time for the good, the bad and the ugly for Kids

Incorporated. Good, the theme song. We're kids

incorporated I mean, it's just a it's just a

catchy song Obviously, there's some slight variations

over the the ten seasons or nine seasons ten

years That we get but it but all together a pretty

catchy theme song That definitely stuck with

me. I would say that's one of the good good parts

of kids incorporated I think it's also somewhat

good that the cast, you know, is basically mainly

children and teenagers. That's obviously something

that is needed when you're trying to have that

your target demographic. We don't want to see

a bunch of adults, we don't want to see a bunch

of little kids, so having the teenage cast really

helps. Also, excuse me, I think the settings

that they had... were good. They were stuff that

you could relate to, whether it be school events,

someone's garage, or a house, or a mall, or different

things like that. So I think that really helped

out. Going back to the adults for a second, because

I was kind of getting to it, parents rarely appeared

on the show. or figured directly into the plots.

So they definitely made an effort to keep parents

out of it, which I think was something that was

appealing to kids at the time of the day watching

it. I can't speak for all of them, but I think

that's something that appealed to me and would

have appealed to me even more if I was watching

the show religiously. Some interesting... Atmospheres

and dynamics with the show to something that

really separated it from Mickey Mouse Club I

think is Even though they're very similar in

type of show in some of the format as far as

variety sketches a little skits and the musical

numbers the tone of the show for me was different

the Mickey Mouse Club came across as much more

fun I don't mean the Kids Incorporated is not

fun, but much more like funny pop like positive

stuff Where I feel like Kids Incorporated tackled

more serious issues They had more of a adult

tone or a mature child tone if that makes any

sense Where they dealt with kids dealing with

certain issues and and not all the songs are

just these happy concert songs. There's there's

deep songs, there's sad songs, there's depressing

songs, there's moments where they isolate kids,

you know, alone, or where they have them kind

of communicating with each other through song.

So I kind of really like the mood and the tone

of stuff better in Kids Incorporated. It seemed

more real, not just fluff. Not saying Mickey

Mouse Club was just fluff either, but there was

more realness in what Kids Incorporated was doing

and more show. in what Mickey Mouse Club was

doing, I guess if that makes sense. The kind

of the plot or premise behind Kids Incorporated

was that they basically had a local formal music,

former musical club, excuse me, that was turned

into a kids hangout and it was called the Palace,

although the A in Palace was not there. It was

originally the palace and had been a theater

where Elvis Presley, Frank Snatcha, etc. etc.

had been. The A in the neon sign had burned out

and was never replaced. So that's why it was

a palace without the A. But the plots had fantasy

elements, had robots, had princesses sometimes.

And the songs would happen both onstage and offstage

so that was fun that made it a little bit more

real to me Never really got a location or where

this is happening a generic school public school

127 But but no like specific area which we don't

need You know the kids were basically their own

rock group kids incorporated was name of the

music group That's where the title comes from

so it was these kids that were part of the band

and and kind of what they did and their struggles

You know dealing with stuff like peer pressure

crushes child abuse Depression you know all these

different things so it's basically just following

this group of kids that have formed a band Which

who doesn't who didn't have friends or wasn't?

themselves in part of a band at some point in

school or at least knew somebody had friends

friends that were. So it's something you can

relate to and it's just kind of following those

kids through different stuff with the loose structure

that they are, their own little rock group. So

I mean, I think all this stuff is good. You know,

obviously the fashion can be ugly at times. That

would be the ugly portion of the good, the bad,

and the ugly of the fashion and the clothes and

definitely already, you know, 80s, 90s stuff.

But that's not that bad. It's a little ugly at

times and hard to look at. You know, some of

the singing is better than other singing. You

can definitely tell people that had the pipes

Definitely hearing some of the Jennifer Love

Hewitt songs not just because I'm a fan of hers

But you could definitely see the musical talent

there Fergie as well and a few others that didn't

necessarily have musical careers later on You

know bad at times the the skits could be a little

hokey could be a little cheesy at times Just

like with the Mickey Mouse Club But like I said,

I do like the tone of them a little bit better.

So, all right, I think then it is time to get

into... Things that make you go, hmm. All right,

that is right. It is time for things you didn't

know about Kids Incorporated. Number one, the

show essentially launched the careers of creators

and producers Gary Biller and Thomas. W. Lynch,

who would go on to create The Secret World of

Alec, Mac, and Romeo, among many other shows,

leading the New York Times to call him the David

E. Kelly of Tween TV. Prior to it, Lynch and

Bill are created and produced a long -running

music video series for TBS, Night Tracks. Number

two thing that you might not have known about

Kids Incorporated, it was actually uncancelled.

Meaning, it was the first show to jump from syndication

to cable. So, syndication first, And then it

got picked up and became a show on the actual

cable. Usually most shows follow the reverse

cycle of that where they're on cable or they're

on a channel and then they eventually go to syndication.

So a little different life cycle for Kids Incorporated.

Number three thing that you might not know about

Kids Incorporated, the original show was also

seen in a lot of different countries. Germany,

Iraq, UK, Iceland, Samoa, Australia, New Zealand,

Micronesia. It wasn't just something that was

seen in the US, it was seen all over the place.

Number four thing that you might not know about

Kids Incorporated, the show was filmed at Hollywood

Center Studios in California for its entire run.

It was one of the only shows, along with the

Mickey Mouse Club, Mighty Morphin Power Rangers,

and you can't do that on television, where the

complete season took place within the calendar

year, instead of the traditional fall through

spring shooting broadcast schedule. So a season

was entirely in a certain year. So if somebody

was on the show from 1985 to 1986, they weren't

just in one season. That was all the 85 season

and all the 86 seasons, since everything was

shot within a calendar year. And the last thing

you might not know about Kids Incorporated, after

the sixth season, which was 1989, was filmed,

the show was put on hiatus for a year, during

which time most of the cast moved on to other

projects or became too old to be on the show.

There was only two people. who returned after

that sixth season to follow up in 1991 with the

seventh season when it resumed, those being Kenny

Ford and Love Hewitt. Alright, time to get a

little VH1 on everybody here, go back to the

Who's Who a little bit, and let's get into where

exactly are these people now. Now, let's start

with the one that you don't need to know too

much about because you're probably somewhat familiar

with where she's at. Black Eyed Peas star Fergie.

You know, obviously she was having, just had

her first baby here within this last year. But

yeah, she was on the musical TV sitcom there.

You know, the series ended in 1993, she became

a member of the Black Eyed Peas, she was married

to actor Josh DeHaan, you can never say his name

right, DeHamel. And yeah. couple just had their

first kid. Um, Mario Lopez, you know, AC Slater.

That's what he went on to do. And, uh, currently

obviously he's been a celebrity guest host for,

uh, the entertainment show Extra. He's been a

host of X Factor. So he's definitely very much,

uh, still doing what he does, looking like he's

20 still, um, very trim, very fit, um, and, uh,

very much still in the public eye. Jennifer Love

Hewitt. A bubbly child star grew into a movie

star, obviously. I know what you did last summer.

She also did the TV series Party of Five. She

did Ghost Whisperer, The Client List, and currently

she has secured a role, a temporary role at least,

in the hit show Criminal Minds. So that is where

she is at right now. Here's some other ones that

I didn't mention before, but Eric Balfour, the

actor who was only there for a year on Kids Incorporated,

or sometimes better referred to, or more popularly

referred to as Kids Inc. He acted in a dozen

films and TV shows. Eric Balfour was in Six Feet

Under, 24, Haven, also was the face of the Valentino

V male fragrance, so he's definitely had a...

acting career after Kids Incorporated. Martika.

Marta Marrero. Martika. She was signed to a record

label and released two albums, one of which had

the smash hit, wait for it if you don't know,

Toy Soldiers. So yeah, Martika from Toy Soldiers

fame was originally on Kids Incorporated. So

that's where some of the people are that have

gone on to do other things in the pop culture

eye. A lot of the cast, or both singers, actors,

and dancers have not done much since Kids Inc.

as far as acting and singing goes, not meaning

they haven't done much with their lives. But

those are the ones that you may have seen pop

up from here to there. We'll be right back with

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who rock on stage and solve everyday problems

that kids face backstage. They're Kids Incorporated,

coming at you weekday afternoons on the Disney

Channel. Kids Inc. is gearing up for another

season of new episodes with a new core of dancers

and new cast members like Love Hewitt. A Texan

who was in Hollywood a short time when she heard

she was chosen to be a new member of Kids Inc.

I was so excited. I was just in five minutes

I had told like a hundred people. It was so fun.

The set was so neat and I had always dreamed

of being on Kids Incorporated. I used to watch

it all the time with my friends. Being on Kids

Inc. keeps Love pretty busy, but she still finds

time for friends. I like to swim. Also new to

Kids Inc. is Sean O 'Reardon, who serves up sodas

and advice to the gang. How about a brand new

season? New songs, new excitement, and new cast

members. It's Kids Incorporated, weekday afternoons

on the Disney Channel. Coming up next, don't

miss the special celebration when Kids Incorporated

rock in the New Year. Headed 9, Mary Steenburgen

stars in the heartwarming story, One Magic Christmas.

Then at 10 .30, join Whoopi Goldberg for the

making of Disney's Captain EO. It's all coming

up tonight on the Disney Channel. Hi, Joey! Now

back to the show. Did you see how your patience

paid off? Alright, so you may be wondering...

how? Can you watch this show now? There's a couple

different ways for you to catch the show. But

unfortunately, none of them are in a way where

you can hold the physical media. There was a

large number of songs performed in the show during

the Kids Incorporated run. That means there's

licensees fee... licensee... licensing fees...

present. which pose a considerable challenge

to releasing it on DVD or bring it back onto

television. For example, in 2005 there was a

proposal to air it as part of the Disney Channel

Saturday Night Teen lineup, but Disney officials

suggested that in order to do so they'd have

to remove much of the music and replace it with

blooper reels which ultimately led to it not

being released at all or brought back to Disney

Channel because there is a lot of fees. We talked

about the similar problems that Muppet Babies

had because of the different things they had

in there. Mickey Mouse Club has similar issues

and Kids Incorporated does too. There's a lot

of different songs on there that would create

some legal and monetary challenges in order to

get this on DVD to make it worth it. It's not

available on Netflix, not available on iTunes.

You are in luck though compared to some other

things like Mickey Mouse Club which we talked

about last week has very limited available on

YouTube. Kids Incorporated actually has a lot

available on YouTube thanks mostly to the actual

YouTube channel called Kids Incorporated. What

they've done is As far as that one goes, not

so much on the later years maybe, but there is

some later year stuff available through some

other users, but they have full -on episodes

on the Kids Incorporated channel, where it's

the full actual length episode of the show. They

have quite a few of those, especially from seasons

one through five. And then they also have a crap

-ton of just smaller clips of like a specific

song or a specific skit. So if you're looking

to see Jennifer Love Hewitt or Fergie or any

of these people singing from their childhood

on Kids Incorporated, you can easily go to the

Kids Incorporated YouTube channel, find a video

of them that just has their song, listen to it,

etc. Or you can look at a couple skits and a

couple songs just to get an idea or a feel from

the show. Or if you're really interested, you

can actually watch full -on episodes. Not every

episode's out there, but there is a variety of

videos. I think a couple hundred maybe videos

of Kids Incorporated on the Kids Incorporated

YouTube channel. And there's some available on

other channels as well. So there's a vast increase

of content on YouTube for Kids Incorporated compared

to Mickey Mouse Club, which may be surprising,

but there's a lot out there that you can watch.

I definitely was able to watch a couple full

episodes, a couple skits, a couple songs from

people, and very much able to get my fill off

of YouTube, which is probably about the only

option most people are going to have for a long

time. If ever it was released to DVD, it would

be a surprise to me. Alright, as far as ranking

the show, which we usually do every episode.

We usually try to get some type of ranking. I

would not say that the show didn't appeal to

me back then, even though I didn't watch it religiously.

And I wouldn't necessarily say I loved the show

back in the day, but those are the only options.

But I wouldn't say that I have no desire to watch

it again. I would watch it if it aired on TV.

I like the songs. I like the mood. So I'm kind

of a strong two or a very weak three on this

one. Probably settle in on a three just because

I would watch it if it popped up and I was able

to watch a full episode on TV. But I wouldn't

necessarily seek it out. It would be more so

like you stumble across it. and you watch it

for 20 minutes or so, and then you move on to

the next thing. So that's why I'm kind of in

between a two and a three on Kids Incorporated.

Not saying I don't like the show. I love the

theme song. I love seeing Jennifer Love Hewitt

at an early age kind of be her bubbly, fun self

with some pipes to boot there. So that's fun,

so it is an enjoyable watch for me specifically.

Maybe other people not so much, but I actually

prefer Kids Incorporated probably over the Mickey

Mouse Club, which I'm assuming I'm in the minority,

but maybe not. It was on for nine seasons, folks,

over a 10 -year span. There's got to be more

people than me that know about Kids Incorporated.

So if you have heard of Kids Incorporated, you

watched Kids Incorporated, or you liked Kids

Incorporated, Give me your feedback on what you

liked about it, what was your favorite parts

about it, and just that you liked it, so I know

that it's not just me out there that remembers

the show and liked the show. Alright. I know

that was quick, but there's no one else to talk

to on Kids Incorporated because nobody really

has heard of it, it seems like. Or at least watched

it when they were a kid that's in our little

podcasting circle. So it was all on my own. I

hope I didn't do it too much of an injustice

by making this somewhat of a quick episode. But

there's really not a lot to get into. It's not

like there's big overarching stories that we

can dissect and say it was good, bad, or indifferent.

It's kind of like Mickey Mouse Club, where you

can watch a few songs, you can watch a few skits,

and you basically get the feel for what the show

was. My only complaint, and I kind of started

saying that in the Mickey Mouse Club episode,

was I wish something like this still existed

today. I think there's a place for it. I think

there's an opportunity for a channel to have

kids singing. slash variety show. I know there's

been multiple attempts to do adult variety shows,

but I think kids these days are very much into

music, very much into singing, very much into

this whole glee generation. Maybe it's getting

a little too late for it, but I still think with

the number of musicals that have been hitting,

theaters that have been successful, with the

number of singing karaoke type both toys and

games that are out there with shows like Glee

kinda having pave the course a little bit that

there could be a desire for kids to have something

like this, especially when you have a resurgence

of Disney movies with songs and then like we

had with Frozen, Tangled, etc. So I mean I think

there is a place for it and I wish it was there

for kids to enjoy and that we could have a whole

nother batch of young future stars that we could

see blossom before our eyes and grow into actors

and singers of their own right. So I definitely

think there is a place for this. out there if

someone was to get a hold of the idea and do

it right. Alright, I'd like to take the chance

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the theme song contest going on which I have

submissions for and there will be a winner hopefully.

So if you want to get any last minute submissions

in for the theme song contest. Make sure you

get that in ASAP Obviously the thing is you listen

to the clips of songs at the end of the show

And you tell me the order that the shows theme

songs appeared in and which season one show was

not in that clip So you only have a very limited

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going. And listen. to the songs at the end for

the theme song contest and get your submissions

in ASAP so you have a chance to win. For now

I'm your host Optimus Solo and tune in soon for

another episode of the Telecast. this.