GCR – Episode 52 – Top 100 Animated Films 100-81

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Top 100 Animated Films Countdown Joker's back

in town! Hello and welcome to the Geekcast Radio

Network's Top 100 Animated Films Countdown. I

am one of your hosts, TFD1Mike, and joining me

is Optimus Solo. Hello. Movie Revolt Dan, hello.

Hello. And of course, Steve Megatron, hello.

Hello. Today we're going to be counting down

the films from number 100 through 81. We, as

we said in the intro, we are not telling you

people anything about honorable mentions until

the whole countdown is over. Because it's just

going to spoil it and it's going to create way

more speculation that's needed. That isn't needed,

I should say. So we are going to get to the countdown

right now. 100. Alright, starting the countdown

off. And our number 100 spot is... Waltz with

Bashir from 2008 had 296 points, and it was only

listed on four out of the 20 lists that were

submitted. The highest person to rank this film

would have been Movie Revolt Dan himself, who

had it at his number two spot. So, Dan, we should

start with you. I know you're probably upset

that it's already being listed, but maybe you're

happy that it's listed at all. I don't know.

What is your reaction to number 100? Well, geez,

way to start it off, I guess. It's tough. In

some ways, I'm really happy it made the list

because it is not the most popular movie out

there. I mean, a lot of people haven't seen it.

It is a foreign film, but there is an American

cut of it that is in complete English. It's an

interesting film because it is like a documentary

and animated movie kind of combined. But I really

hope, like I talked about in the intro before

this even started, that, yeah, the number of

things are important. What's really fun about

Lists for me is discovering movies. And of all

the movies we get to, I obviously hopefully I'll

get to discover some. I hope some people will

go out and try to discover Waltz with Brashear.

It is one of the most emotional, draining films

I've ever seen in a good way. It's very powerful.

The animation is crisp. It's unique. It's a hard

movie to watch, no doubt. It deals with some

severe issues. It's about these... These are

really veterans as they try to relive what they

did in Lebanon. This guy kind of goes around

and trying to get all their stories because you

all tend to forget what happened in some way.

But it's really well done. It was the first animated

film ever to be nominated for Best Foreign Film.

So it has a lot of acclaim. So I really wish

it was a lot higher, as you can tell just by

my ranking of it. So I'm a little disappointed,

but I'm happy it's on the list. And hopefully...

You go ahead. just so do you honestly just saying

because a lot of times what happens is we'll

make our list and we'll submit them and then

when time comes closer we'll be looking over

our list and some of us make question or or say

well maybe i didn't quite put that one high enough

or maybe i put that one too low do you honestly

feel that that one's the second best animated

film of all time i do i do believe it's one it's

if i was the way i kind of looked at my list

if i was when i was ranking them i'm like if

i was going to give someone an animated movie

and say hey this is showing the power of animation

and showing what you can do as a storyteller

and how animation can be used to tell interesting

and powerful tales waltz of bear sheer is one

of obviously number two on that list for me um

so without a doubt and animation on top of that

which i found i think the animation enhances

it and even if this movie wasn't animated it

would still be powerful so And some people might

have heard that I said that it was only listed

on four lists. And you might be questioning,

well, if it's only on four lists, how could it

have made our top 100? And that would be because

of how high it was ranked on those four lists.

It had an average ranking of 17th amongst those

four lists. So that's definitely how it garnered

the points necessary to break and crack into

our top 100 list. Rotten Tomatoes gives this

one a score of 96. With the critical acclaim

that it got, I have no problem with it appearing

on our list. I don't feel as strongly as Dan

does about it, but I definitely think it deserves

a spot somewhere. Mike, any reactions to Waltz

with Bashir at number 100? No. Steve? I've never

heard of it, so no. And I think that's the case

with a lot of people, especially more mainstream

or casual moviegoers. And it's fairly recent

within the last five or six years. I think maybe

as time goes by, it'll garner a little more popularity.

But, hey, number 100, starting off with a foreign

film, nothing wrong with that, and we'll see

where we go from here. 99. All right, moving

on to number 99. Now we're going to stay in the

2000 decade here, and we are going to go to 2005

from DreamWorks for our 99th film, which will

be Madagascar. Oh, God. 307 points, which meant

that it was about 11 points higher than Wallace

with Bashir. It appeared on eight lists, so twice

as many lists. The highest it got ranked was

11. My dad's sister. I'll go last on this one,

because maybe you guys will say some good things

about Madagascar before I go. Okay, the only

thing that I like about the Madagascar franchise

is the Penguins. They were the best thing about

that entire franchise. DreamWorks is a studio

that constantly, and there's nothing wrong with

this, but they constantly go with big -name stars

for voice actors. I have absolutely no problem

with this, but the voices that they got for this

franchise overall, not just even this one film,

I just don't like the stories. The animation

looks great, but the story is just too far -fetched

for me. See, it looks like all the other DreamWorks

films. As far as it looks good, animation's good,

voice acting I have no problem with. The voices

are fine. For me... Madagascar, from a dialogue

standpoint, from a plot standpoint, from a story

standpoint, just fell flat all the way across

the board. I watched this with my nephew and

niece, and I was like, this is one of the worst

animated films I've ever seen. What did you think

of The Penguins? I liked The Penguins of Madagascar

as a series. They weren't enough in the movie

to save it for me. I just really, I've never

had... this much of an adverse reaction to any

of the dreamworks films as i did with this and

i just really do not like this film um dan what

do you think about madagascar i think it's a

harmless movie uh i think it just it is one of

those uh computer enemy movies that i think what

i did like about it was how a lot of the motions

of the characters were kind of throwbacks and

like they would act like cartoon characters of

just through their their actual motions but like

you said it just kind of you know it's there

some of the music is pretty fun and some of the

voice acting is funny but it's just you know

it dreamworks tend to be people have paper thin

movies occasionally they break out with a good

film but madagascar was on my list it was near

the very bottom for number 99 i have no objections

i do think it's not nowhere near as good as waltz

of bashir but uh yeah it is like i said it's

a harmless movie okay now you gotta preface that

with you could say that now about every single

movie that we list until we get to whatever you

have number one yeah it's just it's just still

stinging a little bit i got i'll get over it

i'm just gonna pat in a corner and i'll come

back you know i said this back when we did the

the top 10 film genre countdowns and i'll say

it again here i hope to god none of the sequels

for this franchise outrank the original It will

be something to keep track of as we go through

if we have sequels listed, how they compare to

their originals, etc. Steve, any knowledge on

Madagascar? Yes, I actually put that in my top

20 just because it's one of those few animated

films, at least by DreamWorks, that I can sit

and kind of enjoy only for the fact that it's

more of one of those fun, kind of goofy... um

cartoony kind of cg films whereas i mean yeah

there's not a lot there in dialogue or plot i

mean it's it's pretty flat and all that but uh

i do like a lot of the characters the portrayals

the voice acting uh the music and then of course

everybody loves the penguins because they're

freaking hilarious um they could have made a

whole film on that that would have done way better

but uh But no, I mean, it's one of those few

of the DreamWorks films because I'm not fond

of most of them anyway. It is one of the few

that I can stand to watch more than once. So

I'm fine with it being where it's at. I mean,

I had it in my top 20, but that's only because

I was trying to give some love to DreamWorks.

Found it where you could. Yes. All right. So

we have Waltz with Bashir at number 100 and Madagascar

at 99. 98. All right. Next up on our countdown,

we're going to stay with the more modern films

here at number 98. And that is with 2013. And

I should mention that it is the first time we

will see a sequel so far on our top 100 list.

And that is Despicable Me 2. We will definitely

be keeping track of how sequels fare, but we

already have our first one in Despicable Me 2.

I will say, out of the world of sequels, it's

not a bad choice. It only appeared on five lists,

but it was ranked pretty high amongst those that

had 310 points, and the highest it was ranked

was by TFG1Mike himself at number six. What the

hell is wrong with the other four people? Are

you serious? What's wrong with you? No. What's

wrong with the other four people? This is it.

easily at least top 75 or top 50 yeah but you

ranked it number six well that's because yeah

because i enjoy it so much and it's a damn good

movie this reminds me of when we did the comic

book movies and iron man 3 was number one oh

stop it you have a memory of like five seconds

it's like you know that's what i just saw so

it's number six No, actually, it's no, it's not

because of that at all. It's because it was a

damn good movie and it was because it was hilarious.

I was continuing the story from the original.

I will say we've taken a step in the right direction

because, you know, we started with Waltz with

Bashir, which had a Rotten Tomatoes score of

96. Then we went to Madagascar, which we didn't

mention, but it had a Rotten Tomatoes score of

55. Now we're back up to 76, so at least we're

headed back towards the right direction, possibly.

I have no problem with Despicable Me 2 as a film.

I love the franchise. I absolutely loved the

first movie. I think this one did not compare

to the first one. I'm not saying it was bad in

any way, but it did not live up to the level

that I enjoyed the first one. Being in our top

100 list as a sequel, I don't have a problem

with Despicable Me 2 being there. know how you

would rank it in your top 10 of all time but

we'll leave mike to that uh steve did you have

a chance to see that yet i know it just came

out uh yeah i actually did see despicable me

too while i did like it uh i would have to say

that i still like the first one much more than

the second one i just i i think that there was

uh more to it in in the first one uh and there

was just, I don't know, not that the second one

wasn't fun, but it was very predictable from

the get -go what was going to happen for the

entire film. And I just, I kind of was in and

out mentally in that one. Whereas the first one,

I didn't really know what the heck was going

on, even though I kind of knew what was going

on, but it was still different. One of the reasons

why I ranked it sixth of all time is because

of the fact of the story with him and the kids.

Because it was a damn good story. Yes, I agree

with Steve. The villain thing, oh, mysterious

plane crashes. Villain fakes his own death. Yes,

that is very predictable. But going from the

first one to this one to the second one, I was

like, oh, how are they going to further the family

story? And I really enjoyed how they did that.

Plus more minions. Dan, I don't believe you're

a fan of this franchise. You have not seen this

one? I'm not saying I'm not a fan. I ranked the

first one. I haven't seen the second one yet.

I'm not as big as I think all you guys are. I

think they're fine, but I doubt if I saw Despicable

Me 2 before I made my list that it would make

it. It would have to majorly impress me. But

yeah, I did rank the first one, but I don't know.

I can't really comment because I haven't seen

it. Yeah, like I said, I think the second one

is a far step away from the first one, but I

still enjoyed it. I think the minions make that.

What separated the first and the second one for

me is this first one had much more moments that

just stuck with you, much more dialogue moments,

quotable moments, just things that just kind

of stuck with you, whereas the second one still

had the minions and still had some of the characters,

but it didn't have those moments that stuck with

me as much. It was a lot of throwaway gags. Yeah,

it wasn't like that thing where you're like thinking

about it later on or if someone said that, you'd

be like, oh, I remember that. You know, it was

like I honestly can't really recite a single

line from the second one, whereas I could give

you about 10 or 12 from the first one. So that's

kind of what separated it for me. So, yeah, that's

our first sequel to appear on our list. We'll

have to wait and see if we get any more during

this section of the countdown. Let's see what's

next. 97. All right, that's right. It's time

for our 97th film on our list, and we cannot

escape films from the last 10 years. Specifically

going back exactly 10 years for number 97, and

that is Disney's Lilo and Stitch from 2003. It

was on six lists, had 310 points. The highest

it got ranked was number eight by Mr. Michael

Wilson. And like I said, we keep going in the

right direction. Rotten Tomatoes gave this one

an 86, 10 points higher than Despicable Me 2

got. So number 97, Lilo and Stitch. Mike, what

is your reaction to that? I think it's great.

I don't know if it should be at 97, maybe somewhere

in the 80s. But again, it's one of those films

that has a very wholesome family story. It has

great comedy bits with friggin' Ving Rhames.

As Coco bubbles and everybody remembers Stitch's

blue punch buggy line. It's just an amazing movie.

It really, really is. Steve, have you seen Lilo

and Stitch? Yes, I've seen just I've seen every

Disney movie animated wise. We actually have

a Disney chest with all of them, but periodically

go through them. But yeah, I mean, I've seen

this one a couple of times. It's not a bad film.

I didn't. I think I overlooked it with some other

films that I probably could have left off my

list in place of it. But I still would have probably

ranked it close to this end of the spectrum,

probably not quite this low. But, no, I mean,

I agree with what's been said already, though.

I mean, it's pretty fun. There's a lot of moments

with trying to civilize this. scientific beast

and and you know having the crazy scientists

and everything else going on so i mean it's it's

it's fun i think definitely for its time period

when it came out in 2003 it was everywhere um

i think a lot of that generation really gravitated

towards this film and it was kind of like a pretty

good success i think as a franchise You know,

it was obviously a little bit later in my movie

-watching time for animated films. I think the

franchise deserves representation somewhere here

in our top 100, so I'm not having a problem with

it. I didn't rank it super high, so I have no

problem with it falling here in the 90s. Dan,

what about your opinion of Lilo and Stitch? I

think it's a fine film. Of all that Disney's

research in the 90s and really early 2000s, this

is probably their swan song. Thinking back to

all their classically animated films, this is

probably the last really solid one that Disney

did before they went the more CGI route. But

it's your classic kind of a kitten -dog situation

with your crazy pet and whatnot. But it was a

sweet story. It hit the right beats, and it wasn't

exceptional in any ways. But compared to a lot

of the other stuff that was coming out through

Disney around that time period, like Brother

Bear and other things like that, it was a step

above all of those. Yeah, I definitely agree

with that. Yeah, I think you hit it right on

the nail there. Out of that group of Disney movies

that was coming out, it was probably the best

that they had to offer. All right, well, we have

had our first Disney film. Let's see what we

have next. 96. All right, for number 96, we are

going to stay with Disney. But we are going to

finally break past the year 2000. We're going

to go all the way back to 1995 for a movie that

I didn't think would make this list. But coming

in at number 96 is a goofy movie from 1995. When

you think of Disney animated films, this might

not come to your mind right away. It was on eight

lists. The highest it got ranked was actually

46th, so nobody ranked it really too high in

a top 50 type film, but it did get ranked on

eight lists. Mike, your opinion on a goofy movie

coming in at number 96? I think it's a fun spot

for it. I really enjoy a goofy movie. This is

one of those Disney movies that I enjoy the sequel

more because when the sequel came out, Extremely

Goofy Movie, it was still in that time of extreme

sports where all the rage and everything else.

With a goofy movie, it's got a good story. It

builds on Goof Troop's animated series stuff

and everything else. It's just, again, it's one

of those. It's taking a character like Goofy

and actually giving him a story. Having a son

and having to deal with neighbors and all this

and all that, I really like it. I almost think

it should be maybe in the 70s on the countdown.

Steve, what's your opinion? I really like Goofy

in the sense of when he's actually in something

where they give him a plot, kind of like what

Mike said. I like the whole dynamic between him

and his son and having his neighbor peed. everything

else and uh it's i don't know it takes the the

antics of goofy but actually gives him some some

meaning uh so plus it adds that kind of family

dynamic to it as well because he's having to

cope with the fact he's a goofball uh and his

son isn't kind of trying not to do that but does

anyway so i mean it's it's kind of it's One of

those kind of feel -good family type Disney films

of that era. Before we let Dan go, I do have

to say, I think it was the first time we interviewed

Jason Marsden when Tara and I talked with him.

We asked him about doing Max Goof, and he said

it was just an absolute blast. Very few people

can mimic Goofy's a yuck. And he did his own

version of it, and it was just really, really

cool. And he said that working with Bill Farmer,

who was the voice of Goofy, was just absolutely

hilarious. So it just goes to show you that you

can take a comedy character and actually give

them a really good story to wrap around. Dan,

when you think of Disney films, do you think

of a Goofy movie? uh honestly not really uh it's

i put this at number 98 on my list mostly because

uh i remember liking it as a kid and i was a

fan of a goof troop television series and you

know a goofy movie was a decent extension of

that around you know what are we at you know

here it's a fine number for it i probably would

have but pretty much every other movie we've

gone ahead of it maybe not madagascar but like

you all said given Providing some layers to the

character of Goofy, who usually is just that,

you know, goofy sidekick who is prone to his

physical comedy. But providing some depth to

him, providing him, like, with a son and giving

him the opportunity to be more than just that

gimmicky sidekick. It was well done. Considering

that it was based upon, you know, a television

series and usually those movies are horrible,

it did pretty well. It's been a while since I've

seen it. Like you mentioned, I do remember, like

Mike mentioned, I do remember watching the sequel,

and I personally was not a big fan of that one.

But yeah, I mean, if anything, it's going to

prod me to go back and revisit it because it's

been a while. I think for me, it's not, you know,

Dan, you said it was, oh, it was a movie based

on a television series. I didn't see a Goofy

movie that way, even though that's kind of what

it is. I saw it more as, hey, Goofy's getting

a shot in the spotlight. Goofy's been around

for so many years, and he's had his physical

comedy all that time, and now they're actually

writing him into a real story and a real adventure,

and I thought that was one of the greatest things

about that film. Yeah, I could see that, but

I never saw Goofy as the main character for that

movie. I always thought his son was really the

main protagonist, and he was just... He was there.

He was the name, as they say, but I really didn't

think it was his movie. I felt it was more so.

If anything, he shared it with the son character,

Max, I guess. Yeah. All right. Well, that is

our first five films of the countdown. Let's

see where we go from here. 95. All right. Not

that this couldn't have been predicted, but at

times during the countdown, it seems like we

may get heavy doses of Disney. Our number 95th

film of the countdown is Sticking with Disney,

but going a little bit further back, all the

way back to 1988, and that would be Oliver and

Company. This movie appeared on seven people's

lists. The highest it got ranked was 18th. Beat

out a goofy movie by one point for the spot of

95. I guess I consider this somewhat of, I know

it's not like, it's weird because I guess I consider

classic Disney like anything before, this and

anything before it, for me, all falls under classic

Disney, even though that spans a whole heck of

a long time. Because I really don't feel like

it changed until, you know, Beauty and the Beast

and Little Mermaid is when I kind of have my

resurgence in my head, even though that. Doesn't

seem logical. Oliver and Company coming in at

number 95. Dan, how do you feel about this one?

And especially compared to the last two movies

on the countdown, which have also been Disney

and a goofy movie and Lilo and Stitch. Oliver

and Company has ever been one of those Disney

movies I've really had been all that involved

with. It's just it's funny that it comes out

in 1988 because for some reason I always think

it came out a lot earlier than that. It it's

one of the most forgotten in some ways. So. It's

fine. I think it is that movie that hit right

before Little Mermaid. So it was on the right

path as Disney was rediscovering itself. Considering

a lot of the other cartoons Disney put out in

that decade. One of the better ones from what

I can remember. I thought, like, I could be wrong,

but I remember, like, All Dogs Going to Heaven

came out around the same time, and I always gravitated

towards that movie more than Oliver and Company.

But I could have the years mixed up, because

I'm not really sure. All Dogs Go to Heaven was

depressing as all hell. All right. What is your

opinion of Oliver and Company, then? So much

better than that other movie. No, I mean, you

know, this is... I believe Katzenberg was still

at Disney at this time. I could be wrong, but

I think he was. And this is one of those movies

that I don't mind it being star -studded because

you have star -studded singers in this movie.

Billy Joel, Ruth Pointer of the Pointer Sisters,

Bette Midler. And it's basically a Disney version

with animals and humans about the Oliver Twist

story. I really love this movie. This is one

of my favorite Disney movies. So are you upset

that it comes in at number 95? Eh, a little bit,

but I don't, because a lot of people like Dan

might not pay a lot of attention. I think Dan's

pretty accurate, though, that it's kind of one

of the forgotten Disney films. You know, it's

not like... Like you said, most people probably

think of it and think that it's just as old as,

you know, like Lady and the Tramp and Jungle

Book and those types of films, when in reality

it's only a year removed from when they get to

Little Mermaid. I think most people would be

surprised to learn that. I think you just kind

of assume that it's older. But I think it definitely

does get lost in the shuffle. I'm not saying

it's a bad movie, but when you think of Disney

movies, I mean, I think of Oliver and Company

before I think of a goofy movie. But I would

list a lot of other ones before I... eventually

remembered Oliver and Company. Steve, what is

your opinion about this one coming in at 95?

It actually completely slipped my mind. I haven't

seen that one in a long time, but no, I mean,

it's not a bad film at all. And I will agree

that it kind of looks a lot more dated than,

say, Little Mermaid or some of those other ones.

I don't know if it was a change in animation.

It was definitely a change in style. I don't

know if it was a change in the animation department,

but between Oliver and Company in 88 and Little

Mermaid in 89, it was a definite change in style.

But it's not a bad story or a bad film by any

means. It's just I think that that's kind of

why it may have gotten... either a forgotten

or be this low on the list is because people

kind of equate it to like a early to middle eighties

kind of film. Yeah, I definitely agree with that.

So that is three Disney movies in a row. Let's

see if that street can be broken. 94. All right.

Like you said, we're up to number 94 and we were

going to see if we could. break the disney streak

we have jumped forward eight years from 1988

to 1996 but we are going to stay in the world

of disney and this time for a little bit different

disney film here james and the giant peach um

was on eight lists which is one more list than

oliver and company appeared on um and the highest

it got ranked was 22nd Rotten Tomatoes score

actually on this one was 93, so it's ranked pretty

high amongst that crowd. And kind of in giving

our reactions to this, looking back here, because

this is the fourth Disney film in a row, get

each one of your reactions if we have this in

the right order as far as going from Lilo and

Stitch to a goofy movie to Oliver and Company

to now James and the Giant Peach, Mike. I never

cared for this film. I had seen it a couple of

times. after it was on vhs and i just i don't

know i just it's just one of those stories that

i just didn't care about the animation is nice

but i would rather watch a lion king sequel than

this whoa if you just went on based on rotten

tomatoes uh it would have gone Oliver and Company

with a 43, Goofy Movie, 53, Lilo and Stitch,

86, and then James and the Giant Peach, 93. Dan,

what's your reaction to the order of these four

Disney films and then James and the Giant Peach

just in general? Of all of them, I do think James

and the Giant Peach is probably the best. And

I would probably say Lilo and Stitch is probably

after that. And a Goofy Movie and Oliver and

Company to me are kind of, you know. They're

about even. At a given day, it could change back

and forth. But regarding James and the Giant

Peach, that book was one of my favorite children's

books growing up as a kid. And I actually came

to it around the same time the movie came out.

And I did love the movie as a kid. I haven't

revisited it much as an adult, but animation's

great. I disagree, and I think the story is really

fantastic. And it's really well -told within

this movie. And it keeps very strictly to the

book, well, as much as you can. And overall,

it's really well done. And I'm a big fan of stop

-motion animation, and it's done really well

here. And I actually didn't even realize James

and the Giant's Peach was a Disney movie. Yeah,

I didn't either until I was doing this, and I

was like, oh. It's kind of like a Goofy movie.

It's not one that you would list off when you're

listing the best Disney movies. It doesn't come

to your mind as one of them. As a Disney film

in general, I'm not saying as a good film, but

it's definitely one that you don't realize is

a Disney film. Steve, have you seen James and

the Giant Peach? Yes, I have. It's not a bad

story by any means. I do think that it does have

a it kind of does what films are supposed to

do. And that's take you kind of out of your problems

of life and puts you in an immersive, different

location. which is kind of what this story does.

I didn't personally put it on my list, but that's

more so because I had seen it one too many times

as a kid between school and everything else,

so it kind of grades on me. That, and I'm not

a fan of the animation at all. It reminds me

of Nightmare Before Christmas. I hate that film

in general, like The Nightmare Before Christmas,

not this. So it's kind of a double -edged sword

for me on this one, but I don't have a problem

with it being on the list whatsoever, though.

Mike, out of the four Disney films that we just

listed, which one's the best? Out of the four

that we just listed? Yeah, Lilo and Stitch, Goofy

Movie, Oliver and Company, and James and the

Giant Peach. James and the Giant Peach is last.

The animation is okay, but I'm not a fan of stop

motion animation in a lot of things. I mean,

I like it when, like if it's specifically done

for like toys and stuff and tour reviews, but

stop motion animation with Disney and any of

the animation companies, I cannot stand it. I'd

rather watch Lilo and Stitch than the other three.

You guys are crazy. All right. Will somebody

be able to beat? Disney and take over here and

we will see heading into our next movie 93 I

think it's fitting that we have a film like this

that will stop the Disney streak here. We're

going into our 93rd film on the list, and we're

only going two years after James and the Giant

Peach. We're going to 1998, and this will be

our first entry from a Marvel or DC film. I'm

lumping those together. I know they're different,

but for category purposes, I'm putting them together.

So coming in at number 93 is 1998's World's Finest,

and I am going to just turn it over to Steve

and Mike and Dan. I'm going to let Mike go first

on this, and then I'll go after. Okay, so first

of all, some background information on World's

Finest. It was originally a three -part episode

arc in Superman the Animated Series, which they

then turned into a made -for -VHS DVD film, and

they basically took out the intros and the outros

of Superman the Animated Series and made their

own credits around it. Watching the film as a

film, I find it so much better than watching

the individual three -part episode arc. This

is in the DC animated universe. This is the first

time Batman and Superman meet. The film structure

for the story of this is so well done because

you don't explain. When I first saw this as the

individual episodes, I was like, ooh, Superman

animated series. But wait, why are we in Gotham?

Oh crap, there's the Joker. What the hell is

going on here? Bruce Timm and his team structured

this story so well where you have the villains

meet first and the heroes have to team up to

take them down afterwards. The animation is spot

on, the voice acting is spot on, the story is

beat by beat, beginning, middle, end, and it's

just so amazing. It really, really is. Steve?

Uh... I really love this film. You have the great

voice acting of Mark Hamill, Kevin Conroy, Clancy

Brown, Tim Daly. Those are the most iconic voices

of those four characters anyway. That's the number

one thing. The number two is you have the main

two of... you know, the, the DC villains and

DC heroes going head to head in this episode,

uh, even to some degree, the, the heroes going

head to head and the villains going to head to

head with each other. So, I mean, it's, it's

kind of a, a real big kind of one, two punch

between everybody. And I, I would definitely

rank this pretty high, not as high as two other

DC universe films, but, uh, I ranked this as

my number 20 on my list just because of that

fact and then how great the story is. Well, this

is something like I don't want to I'm not trying

to compare it to Waltz with Bashir, but in comparison,

it was only on five lists. So what helped? Both

World's Finest and Waltz with Bashir was how

it was ranked on those limited number of lists.

So even though it was only on five lists, it

was average rank of 31st. It falls all the way

down to 93rd on ours. And once again, we can

turn to Mike because you had this ranked higher

than anybody else at number eight. So before

we get to Dan's thoughts, are you just happy

that it's on the countdown since it was only

on five lists? Or are you upset that even though

you ranked it at eight, it comes in at number

93? I think it's a movie for superhero fans,

specifically Batman fans and villain fans and

superhero fans. It's a movie that could have

easily been at least in the lower of the top

60, like somewhere between 60 and 59 if more

people voted on it. Somewhere between 60 and

59? 60 to 51. Thank you very much, jerk. It's

one of those things where it's got so many unexpected

moments. There's a moment where Joker and Lex

are discussing it. And in the background, they're

henchwomen. Harley and Mercy are having a fist

fight. And you just hear all the background noises,

the oops, the uggs, and all that stuff from them

fighting. And you hear Harley scream, Bonsai!

And all this and all that. And it's just a very,

very interesting movie. And it also... It's just

one of those things where you don't expect half

the things that happen in it. There's a scene

where, you know, the movie's been out for a number

of years, so I'm going to spoil it because I

know Kevin doesn't care because he doesn't watch

superhero stuff a lot of the times. But there's

a scene in it where Clark, where Superman scans

Batman's mask and Bruce Wayne at the end of it,

at the end of that section of scene. Batman has

put a tracer on Superman. Superman finds it,

crushes it, and says touche. I mean, it's just

amazing. And the chemistry between Lex and the

Joker is just amazing. It's just an overall amazing

movie. I am kind of disappointed it's in the

90s, but I'm still glad it made the countdown.

I think it should be somewhere around, like I

said, just under the top. 59 and a half, right?

Shut up. I think it should be 59. Dan, we haven't

got your thoughts on this. World's Finest, number

93. I don't know. I don't nearly think it's as

high as Steven might do. To me, it's just three

episodes of a cartoon put together. The story

is just... It's the same type of story you always

get when two superheroes meet in comic books.

If you look at any Marvel team -up or any DC

team -up, it's the same. type of plot line you

know you have the villains of each character

you know combined and they have to fight to fight

the common enemy they don't like each other at

first it's it if you look at this and and then

compare it to something like i don't know the

dark knight returns you just realize that there's

no comparison uh it's fine like i do like the

you know the batman obviously the batman animated

series in the superman animated series but i

don't i don't think it's anything special to

me it's just all right here you go if anything

it just putting this into a movie just to me

was just a ploy to you know package a dvd and

sell it like they're like i don't see it as nearly

as amazing as you guys do i don't know it's a

three -part episode though so i mean it's it

still fits together nicely as a as a film yeah

i mean and i and were you trying to compare it

to the dark knight returns No, what I'm saying

is if you look at... You're talking about the

interplay between Batman and Superman. It's far

more interesting if you look at something like

The Dark Knight Returns. Yeah, but that's a totally

different dynamic. Yeah, that's a completely

different dynamic. Yeah, it's also better done

and more interesting. And what I'm saying is

this is just kind of... It's a cartoon for kids,

so it's basic and straightforward. And yeah,

there's three episodes, but the X -Men cartoon

had... The Phoenix Saga, which was like five

episodes, if I put that into a movie, would I

say it's better than a lot of things? I don't

think so. To me, it's just, yeah, you want to

put it on the list, fine. I think in the 90s

it was serviceable, but I don't see it as this

amazing feat that you guys do. It's just, it's

been done, this type of story, the world's finest

story, has been done a lot, and it's been done

a lot better in a lot of different areas, comics

or even other, you know. straight -to -DVD movies.

Ladies and gentlemen, the Roger Ebert of the

GCRN. The point here is, though, at the time

when it happened... I would take that down and

wear it with pride. When it happened, no one

expected it to happen. Yes, BTIS and STIS were

still ongoing at the same time, but nobody ever...

I remember seeing advertisements for this on

TV for the three episodes, and I was like, wait

a second. What are they doing? For fans of those

characters, for fans of that cartoon universe,

no, it is not just that. The Batman cartoon,

Superman, all that DC animated stuff is not just

a kid's cartoon. A kid's cartoon is friggin'

Teen Titans for Christ's sake. I will play devil's

advocate here in kind of the middleman of this.

I will agree with Dan. It probably doesn't deserve

to be that high on the list. It's good that it's

on the list. Yes, it was a three -part episode

and probably a ploy to sell it as a DVD anyway,

but it's still a three -part episode. But I will

also argue that it is comparatively better than

the X -Men cartoon or the Spider -Man cartoon

of the era because the Bruce -Timverse is actually

a lot better written than a lot of the 90s animation

was at the time. Which is fine if you want to

compare it to other animated... When you're looking

at the acclaim -wise, where you think, oh, this

is an amazing feat for animated... No, I wouldn't

say it's any better than comparing it to Mask

of the Phantasm. Then, no, Mask of the Phantasm

kills it because there's a lot more depth to

the film than what's in this. To me, if you look

at an animated movie, the idea of doing an animated

movie, to me, it's like, what are you doing within

that medium that is different? Or how are you

using that in an interesting way? I don't think,

yes, they maybe edited it better for the overall

DVD release, but I don't think anything enhances.

It becomes enhanced by being on a DVD, like getting

it on a DVD or watching it on television. It's

the same thing either way. Then if you were to

compare it to something like the direct -to -DVD

releases of DC, they do something with that format

for most of them, and there's something... more

enhanced compared to your television series.

So what I'm saying is, yes, as a TV series, great.

But as a movie, I think it fails in comparison

when you look at movies that do similar storylines

and have similar characters. I think what we've

done here is discovered two things. Number one,

that eventually we need to have a discussion

just strictly based on Marvel DC movies. And

number two, that this is the first GCRM. debate

ever that i completely had no impact or input

on um all right that's because you're an anti

-hero i guess so we've had our first marvel or

dc appearance we're about to have a first of

something else with our next film 92 all right

so we are moving into our number 92 slot on our

top 100 film like i said we are about to have

another first because this time uh we're actually

just gonna flip the numbers on that last one

last one was 1998 we're gonna be in 1989 now

um for our first anime entry on our top 100 list

and that is kiki's delivery service like i said

from 1989 it was on seven people's lists and

the highest it got ranked was actually all the

way up to number four And I should mention...

I don't want to animate. It deserves to mention

that Rotten Tomatoes score of 100 currently for

Kiki's delivery service, which is not something

that's easily garnered. Dan, I'm sure you're

going to have the most to talk about with this

one, so let's start with you. Of all of Matsuki's

films, this is probably the one lower on my list.

because it's bad just because it's probably the

most, one of his most straightforward film, straightforward

films. And I do, I do enjoy it. I do feel though,

like it doesn't immerse you into the world quite

like a movie like spirit of white does, which

is a hard comparison because it's, I mean, that's

the comparison, like a movie to like citizen

Kane, but I do like it. I think the character

is, the characters are strong. It is like with

any Matsuki film, he creates a fun world of all

these different quirks, a lot of detail. if like

someone like who he is a good comparison to someone

like del toro and the way he creates his world

because it's all in the details same thing with

this just the you know the delivery service aspect

of it using witches and taking different things

like witches and switching them and doing his

own thing with them but the what's interesting

about like the delivery service is there's very

like limited conflict there's like no really

pro you know antagonist per se compared to some

of his other movies. So that's kind of why it's

lower on my list. I'm glad it made it. I'm curious

to see what other Matsuki films make it. There

should be a whole bunch more, but for me, this

is good, but it's not nearly as great as other

stuff. Mike has obviously blatantly pointed out

that there is at times an anti -anime bias here.

So Dan, looking at this one as our first anime

film, is it, Is it showing our bias that it's

in the 90s? Should it be higher than that? Or

what are you feeling as far as a first anime

film on our list and where it's ranking? Is it

completely skewed? I ranked it 71, so I'm not

completely that far off. Like I said, of all

the anime that I have had on my list, it's probably

all the Matsuki films. I don't think, for me,

I know a lot of people have a high opinion of

it, but it just didn't have the same impact as

a lot of his other stuff. I don't think it's

a huge bias. I don't think it's one that is adored

as a lot of his other films. In the 90s, it's

fine. I think you can make an argument for the

80s or the 70s, but anything beyond that I think

would be pushing it a little bit. Any comments

from Mike or Steve on Kiki's Delivery Service?

Nope. I will admit it's not on my list. There's

certain anime I'll watch and certain I won't.

this is where I kind of take a page out of Mike's

book with, I see a trailer and I either, Hey,

don't care. Or I don't say that it's going to

be crap necessarily. Not that he says that every

time, but, um, I, if it doesn't, if it doesn't,

yeah, I know I'm just dagging, you know, hitting

that dagger just right. But, um, No, I mean,

if it doesn't entice me to see it with the trailers

that I've seen of this stuff, I just won't watch

it. It's not that I have a dislike or a hate

for it because I do like certain animes, primarily

in the TV series realm. But technically, this

is also a Disney film because the second English

track that it got in 97 was by Disney. But, yeah,

I mean, I don't really have a... kind of complete

opinion of it i remember when it came out and

i saw commercials for it back in the day but

uh i i can't argue one way or the other all right

well that's our first anime film on our list

we'll see where we go from here uh running out

the first uh 10 of our group here 91 All right,

well, let's go somewhere where we haven't gone

since number 97. You know, we started our countdown

off with a bunch of modern movies, and then we

got away from it for a while and got attacked

by Disney. We're finally making it back into

more modern movies and back to DreamWorks. Rounding

off our first group of 10 at number 91 is 2012's

Rise of the Guardians. It was on six people's

lists. The highest it got ranked was 24th by

Mr. Wilson again, 335 points. I have not had

a chance to see this yet. I haven't either. So

I'm not going to be able to talk a lot about

it. There was a lot of hype to it. I remember

it kind of sounded like an attempt to do what

they did with what happened with Shrek in a different

way, kind of taking the traditional. Holiday

and different types of characters like that and

then try to do what they did with Shrek. But

I wanted to see it, I just never got a chance

to it. Dan, have you seen this one? I have. I

caught it on HBO. HBO has been blasting it for

the last month or so on repeat, so I finally

sat down and watched it. I was not a fan, I must

say. I think this is going to be a movie that

is forgotten within the next few years. Yeah,

the concept's interesting, but it just, it is

so... poorly done and it's really a huge mess

in my opinion and yeah there it too feels like

we talked about like star -studded cast it does

feel like just big names that they got in and

threw it in like hugh jackman plays the role

of like a you know the easter bunny and it's

just he it doesn't work it's not a lot of the

act the the um voice acting just doesn't work

and i don't know wait so hugh jackman went from

roddy the rat to the easter bunny oh boy talk

about being flushed away Wow. It's another DreamWorks

movie that he was in. I know. I got the pun.

I just am trying to forget it. Like I'm trying

to forget Rise of the Guardians. I don't know.

To me, I think if you did this list within the

next five years from now, it wouldn't even be

on it because it's going to be forgotten. So

this is one of those that's just because, like

you said, something that people have seen recently,

so it's on their mind? I think so. For me personally,

I don't really know many people that... I guess

obviously we have six people that liked it, but

I don't know many people that did, and I don't

know many people that it has a lasting opinion

on. Steve, have you seen this one? Yeah, I mean,

it's... Yeah, the story is not very, I don't

know, complex in any means. But... And yeah,

it's got a star -studded cast, but... that doesn't

necessarily mean that it's going to be a good

movie as we've seen with actual light live action

films. You can have all the star studded people

that you want in a film, but that, you know,

it can still be crap. I enjoyed as far as like

some of the voicing is concerned, like just the,

the actors themselves. And then I enjoyed the,

the animation style. Because it's slightly something

different, but this is another example of DreamWorks

kind of continuing failures. Screwing the pooch,

I think, is the term you're looking for. I was

trying to be a little bit more clean, but yeah,

that about rounds my thoughts on it. Alright,

well, Rise of the Guardians. Kind of a subjective

one. I think a couple of us wouldn't have this

in our top 100. So it comes in at number 91,

so I guess at least it wasn't any higher. And

we'll see where we go next as we start our next

group of 10. 90. All right, so after our quick

visit in 2012, we're going back to the past.

You know, I wasn't sure how many of these we

would see, but we have our second sequel. to

make our top 100 countdown. We'll see how many

we get in all, but coming in at number 90 is

an American Tale 2, Fievel Goes West. It was

on six people's lists. I guess I had it ranked

higher than everybody else. You did. Maybe a

bit too high. I'll admit that. A guy that hates

sequels? Yeah, a bit too high. I love this sequel.

I had it ranked in my top 10. I just loved the

whole... franchise in American tale. I mean,

I know it kind of goes crazy bad after this,

but, uh, five goes West. I was just, maybe it's

a soft spot. Maybe it's nostalgia talking, but

I had it right to my top 10. Maybe you should

adjust that for future reference, but, um, As

far as sequels go, I have no problem so far as

Despicable Me 2 and American Tail 2 being two

of the sequels that have appeared in our top

100. Because I will have a major problem if certain

sequels show up. These are not two of them that

really ruffle my feathers too much. So I'm glad

it made the list. Number 90 is fine. It's probably

much better at 90 than 9. Maybe I forgot a zero

when I was doing my rankings. I'm assuming most

of us have seen this. So let's start with Mike.

How do you like American Tail 2? It's been a

long time, but going back and thinking about

this franchise, I remember I had a bunch of the

plush toys that were out at the time and everything

else. I find it strange that, and maybe it's

because it's two different situations with these

two movies, but Five Old Ghosts West or the American

Tail franchise overall. I don't mind it as much

as I mind rat cooking in France. So there is

that. You're alone in that, just so you know.

Well, ratafouille is what it's really called.

But Fievel, he's a good character. He's an interesting

character. Whenever I would go back and watch

it, I always somehow picture Sneezer from Tiny

Toons being in there somewhere, even though I

know he's not. I know technically this wasn't

Don Bluth, even though he was responsible for

the most part for the first one. But being kind

of the first film to appear in that kind of subsection

of animated films, I find it kind of interesting.

We'll see if any of his other films will appear.

I think obviously we would all hope that the

original one would appear if the sequel appeared,

but we'll have to wait to see and find that out.

Steve, how do you feel about our second sequel

list here coming in at number 90? I vaguely remember

this one. Not enough to really make an informed

opinion, but just based on some of the animation

stuff. I mean, I can definitely tell where it

was in time when it came out, but yeah, I think

that's about all I'm going to say on it because

I can't really make an informed decision. Dan,

what about you? I loved this movie as a kid.

It was huge. I think as a kid, I enjoyed Bible

Goes West so much more than the original. It's

a lot more, as a kid, it was a lot more fun.

It's a lot more bright. of course, and brighter,

I should say. And just the Western aspect of

it was interesting. As an adult, I do, you know,

I can see that the original is superior, I would

say, to this one, at least I think so. But I

do enjoy it. It's funny because I feel like Fievel

is one of those characters that I don't know

if kids today or the youth today have any idea

of him. I don't know if that's one that's really

carried through generations. Or if he would resonate

with today's audience at all or not. Yeah, I

don't know. Maybe. You never know how things

work. Like I said, I liked it as a kid. It was

a good of animated sequels out there. You could

do far, far worse. I remember this being really

big at the time. I just could have been in my

own head. I remember it being... But yeah, yeah,

Fievel Goes West. There's been a long time since

I thought about Fievel, but like I said with

Goofy Movie and Alvore and Company, this is kind

of making me want to go back and revisit it because

it's been a while. Like Steve, I have not seen

it in maybe a decade or more. I want to see,

it makes me want to watch both of them back to

back again because I kind of have similar memories

to you where I almost remember as a kid liking

the second one better. And now I'm interested

to go back and see them back to back to see what

my reaction would be. But I think you hit it

right on the head there. As far as sequels go,

you could do much worse. So that's how we start

our second grouping of 10. We'll see where we

go from there. All right, into the 80s we go.

Number -wise, not year -wise. Year -wise, I'm

somewhat almost surprised that we're going to

have our, I think if I'm remembering right, our

fourth film so far from the last five years.

I'm surprised that we're having so many. I guess

what I would call current or modern films that

are making the list, but maybe it's not surprising

that they're all at this end of the list. So

going into number 89 is 2012's Paranorman. It

appeared on seven different lists. The highest

it got ranked was 34th. So nobody ranked it,

you know, extremely high. 89 for Paranorman.

Dan, did you have a chance to see this one? I

know it just recently came out. Yes, actually,

I called it the best animated film that came

out last year when I did like my end of the year

reviews. And I stand by that completely. I love

Paranorman. I think it's again, I mentioned I

love stop motion animation and clamation. It's

beautifully done. It uses that really well because

it during that last year you had this and like

Frankenweenie. And to me, this was so much better.

The story went in a really unexpected way and

got. A lot darker, but a lot deeper than I was

expecting. The characters are all strong. There's

a really good sense of humor to it. A lot of

great visual gags. I do think this is one that

will probably even grow in appreciation as the

years go on. But I do. I love Paranorman. It

was a huge surprise to me because I really didn't

have that much interest in it. But watching it,

I was really impressed. It drew me in right from

the get -go. And actually, it's one I revisited

a few times since then. So very happy to see

it. make it the list. And I do think it's deserving.

I honestly think you could make the argument

that it could be even lower or higher on the

list like in the 70s or so. But I think right

here is a fine place for it. I agree that I think

I haven't seen the movie in its entirety, but

I've seen little bits and pieces as I was capturing

sound clips and whatnot. I think the voice acting

is very, very good, especially for some of the

young people that got involved with it. I think,

like you said, it's better than Frankenweenie.

Interested to get your take, Dan, because like

I said, we've had like four or five films here

from the last five years. Despicable Me 2, we

had Rise of the Guardians and Paranorman. Is

this the best of that group so far? Well, I haven't

seen Despicable Me 2, so in fairness, I can't

say it's better than that. But yes, I think it's

superior than the other films in every way possible,

all across the board. Like I said with Rise of

the Guardians, I think it's going to be forgotten

rather quickly. I think Paranorman is a strong

story that's really deep, and it's, to me, one

of the biggest surprises I've had in the last

few years. When a movie can kind of... turn me

and take turn me from like a hater to a believer

it doesn't happen very often but it happened

with paranormal so steve have you seen this one

i know it just recently came out so uh no i haven't

had a chance to see it but um other than what

i saw the trailer and everything else um uh it

looks like it's a lot of fun i mean just from

what i've looked at um i don't mind this animation

style or anything and then uh the voice cast

looks again kind of Star studded. But I again,

I haven't seen the film, but I would I think

didn't this come out around the time of like

the Frankenweenie came out in August last year.

So, I mean, it came out the same year anyway.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because I would much rather

watch this than that. But I digress. All right.

So. Paranorman in at number 89, and we'll see.

Are we going to stay with more modern films for

the rest of this segment, or are we going to

go back in the past at some point? 88. All right,

we're going to keep the modern flavor going here

with number 88. I'm just going to go back up

three years before Paranorman to go with 2009's

film from Sony. Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs.

Also on seven lists, just like Paranorman was

the highest it got ranked. Remember, the highest

ranking for Paranorman was 34. The highest ranking

for Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs was actually

12 by TV's Mr. Neal. Interesting that on Rotten

Tomatoes, both Paranorman and Cloudy with a Chance

of Meatballs scored identical at 87. So they

both scored fairly well. I just want to say I

have seen Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs.

I think it's one of those films. Because basically

what we had, in my opinion, we had our Disney

era with the resurgence with Little Mermaid,

Lion King, Aladdin, etc. And then it kind of

started to fizzle out through the Mulan years,

Pocahontas, Hunchback of Notre Dame, etc. And

then we had this insurgence of CGI, film, DreamWorks,

Pixar, etc. And after a little while, it just

seemed like we were getting the same thing over

and over and over again. In my opinion, it was

basically the same film, different cast of characters,

different area, whatever. But it was the same

film. I felt like it was within these last five

years, five, six years that we got some uniqueness

with films like Up and WALL -E. And for me, Cloudy

with a Chance of Meatballs, Despicable Me. Some

of those films kind of, in my opinion, broke

the mold a little bit. And I really enjoyed Cloudy

with a Chance of Meatballs. I'm very glad it's

on our list. I think it could be ranked even

a little bit better than it is than at 88. But

I'm very happy that it's on our list. Dan, have

you seen this one? I have. And I talked about

Paranorman surprising me. Cloudy with a Chance

of Meatballs really did too. I love the book

as a kid. The book is very different. It's mostly

a picture book. There's not much words to it.

So they changed a whole lot. There's very little.

resemblance to it as much. And my wife, who's

a teacher, really can't stand this movie because

of how much they change. But personally, I thought,

like you said, it was unique. The visual gags

in this were amazing. Visual gags can be kind

of corny sometimes, but what they did and how

they took a really simple story and really developed

it even further was really well done. I still

think I probably enjoy Paranorman a little bit

more just because of my love for Claymation.

But yeah, like you said, Compared to a lot of

the more mediocre CGI films, especially from

Sony, this is probably their best one, from what

I can remember. Steve, have you seen Cloudy?

Yeah, I actually, this is one of the films my

kid actually likes, which is funny. Just because

it's kind of goofy, I like the funny monkey and

then a lot of the little gags that they have

throughout the film. I find it to be one of the

more enjoyable. And I do agree that a lot of

the films within the last five years have actually

been different. And I did notice, too, that a

lot of the films previously to that were pretty

much the same film over and over and over. Although

now we're starting to get sequels of all these

films that came out. So it's kind of treading

down that same road again. But again, I think

this film. It could have been maybe a little

bit higher on the list, but I'm not sad that

it's at least on the list. Yeah, and I think

out of the more modern ones that we've had, I

definitely think it's deserving, along with probably

what Dan said with Paranorman. Definitely have

no problem with them showing up. Mike, have you

seen Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs? Bits

and pieces of it. I haven't seen it all the way

through. Every time it comes on Cartoon Network,

I always fall asleep or change the channel. You

imbecile. I'm just kidding. No, I think it's

deserving. I think it's interesting that we are

getting this influx of more current films going.

And we'll see how many more we get with our last

few films as we round out this first episode.

Alright, for number 87, we're going to 2007.

And for our second anime film to appear on our

list, and that is 2007's Persepolis. If I'm saying

that right. And interesting to point out on this

one, it was on five people's list, so it's again...

an example of something that didn't appear on

a lot of lists, but on the list that did appear

on it, it ranked really high. If we were just

to look at the list that it appeared on and rank

all of our top 100 that way, it would have ranked

number 20th instead of number 87th. And the highest

ranking it got was 10 from Double D and a Rotten

Tomatoes score of 96. So it seems like the people

that have seen this film and... or commenting

or critiquing it all seem to be in agreement

that it's high quality work. Dan, have you seen

this one? I have. I think it was 13th on my list.

It was in the top 20, I know that much. I love

Persepolis. This and Lost for Sure kind of make

me a little bit sad that they're ending at this

end of the list, but it's really great. The animation

is unique. It talks about a story that a lot

of probably Americans are not aware of. It is...

you know it's this really truthful story this

really honest story about this girl that grew

up within like you know the seven years war just

her you know how much she lived in terror and

how animation is used there's there's a lot of

negative space there's a lot of darkness used

in in this movie but uh there's also a lot of

great comedy to it too so i i was persepolis

to me is one of those movies like with walsh

for sure that i hope more and more people Go

out and try to watch it's a like it's I Don't

know I could see a lot of people not liking it

because it is unique It's not necessarily something

they're used to the animation isn't cut and dry

you know there But I think if you really try

to view it with an open mind I think you'll see

that there is a universality into what they're

saying even though it's coming from a different

culture especially considering where we are like

As a society, I think it's a really important

movie. But I really wish this was a lot higher

than it is. It is good to see that those that

did list it have a lot of love for it, and I

can see why, because I share that love. Fair

enough. All right, we'll see what we have next.

86. All right, moving into our number 86 film,

and I do apologize for saying that Persepolis

was anime. I was getting it confused with...

Number 86 because they're right next to each

other. Persepolis as a foreign film and number

86 as an anime film. And we are going to break

out of the 2000s and go all the way back to 1986

for the movie Ninja Scroll. It was on six people's

lists. The highest it got ranked was number five.

And it is our second film to appear in our countdown

that has had a 100 score from Rotten Tomatoes.

We had Kiki's Delivery Service that had 100 and

now Ninja Scroll that has 100. Dan, have you

seen Ninja Scroll? Honestly, this is the first

one we've done that I have not seen. And this

is the only one that we've done that I have seen

to this point. Wow. It's been a very long time

since I've seen this. Are we in the Twilight

Zone? My mind is blown right now. Yes, we are.

We're in the Twilight Zone and we've gone way

beyond the outer limits. So am I. It's been a

very long time. I think I saw this. When did

you say it came out? 86. I saw this like 10 years

after it came out, like somewhere around 95,

9, 10 years later, 95, 96. Outside of the action

and the style of the anime, I don't remember

a lot about the story. This is one of those things

where I was living with friends and her husband

put it on and we watched it and I was like, oh,

okay, well that was... But I haven't seen it

since. But I do remember at least having seen

it at one point in my life. And now we have another

film for Dan to mark down as films he's going

to watch. Yeah. My Netflix queue is going to

get angry at me. After this whole countdown is

over. Steve, have you seen Ninja Scroll? No.

And I have not either. So I guess we will not

do this film justice. Except for Mike's bag leaf.

Foggy memory of it, but assuming from the Rotten

Tomatoes score of 100 that someone had this is

highly ranked as number 5 and that with only

being on 6 list, it got all the way up to number

86 on our list should all make it seem like it's

definitely belongs. He beat Persepolis out by

one point. So it's definitely interesting to

see where we're going here in the mixture that

we're getting. Let's see what we have here with

our final five films of today's episode. All

right. So it's been a while since we've been

there. I think the last Disney film we had was

at number 94. And so with number 85, we will

go back to Disney and see what they have to offer

us in the form of 1996 is. Pocahontas. It was

on nine people's lists, which I believe is the

most list a movie has appeared on so far. Goofy

Movie was on eight. James and the Giant Peach

was on eight. So nine is the most list that we've

had so far from Pocahontas. The highest it was

ranked was number 32, so nobody ranked it in

the top 30 at all. Rotten Tomatoes score of 56.

Yikes. 366 points. Mike, how do you feel about

Pocahontas coming in at number 85? Eh, it's alright.

I remember the movie and I know the story, but

the main thing I remember from this is the song,

Colors of the Wind. Sadly, even though I don't

generally say I'm ashamed that I'm a film score

buff and a film soundtrack buff, this was one

of the Disney soundtracks I did have when it

came out. I don't know why. But overall, the

animation is good. It's not the best animation

Disney has ever done. The story was interesting

to a certain point, especially at the time. If

you watched it in the time it was released, I

don't know if it holds up to today's standards,

specifically to storytelling. Animation, it might.

But, I mean, I liked it. I liked the voice cast.

I thought it was pretty cool. I think my major

problem with Pocahontas is most of Disney films

have been based on, you know, basically based

on fiction, based on fairy tales, based on fantasy

worlds, etc. And Pocahontas, I guess, tries to

cloud that, it seems like, because it's based

on actual, I mean, not based on, but... It shares

a character that really did exist in history.

And where I run into problems with that is it

gives kids aren't smart enough to know that when

they hear about Pocahontas later in life, that

it is so far removed from this film. this is

in no way an accurate portrayal of any of the

historical events i'm not saying it was intending

to be but it leads for some confusion there so

i kind of have issues with it from a teacher

standpoint um and from a historical standpoint

but uh i guess that's more just my own personal

gripe about it not something that it really not

a mistake or not something wrong i guess it did

um but i i don't really care for it that much

in that respect i do you know agree that the

music's decent it was one of the last for me

of of that disney era that kind of for me it

really ended after the major four there but kind

of a little bit existed with this and even i

guess mulan and maybe hunchback a little bit

but by that point it was all just kind of fading

off into not as goodness um it's trying to resurge

nowadays But I expected Pocahontas to be somewhere

on the list, I guess. So I'm not surprised. I

think 85 is a fine spot for it. Dan, what do

you think? I think Pocahontas is, you know, pretty

much an average movie. I do agree that it does

have some well -made songs. You know, just about

beyond the river bend. Some of the characters,

it is, you know, Disney -fying. A very strange

tale that, you know, like you mentioned, it's

kind of taking something and making a hero out

of who in all sense was probably in real life

a pedophile, you know, six year old man going

out with a 14 year old girl. But, you know, in

Disney's eyes, it's a lot different. But I don't

know. To me, it's like you can have that issue

with a lot of things because we tend to do that

a lot with historical, you know, stories when

we look back and change them. And, you know,

if you just look at Columbus or. Paul Revere,

like a lot of those stories are twisted on their

head because of works of fiction. So that doesn't

really bother me as much, but to me, it's just

a lot of the characters, like it was that standard

Disney formula and it just kind of tried to copy

it. And it just, at this time, it was like a,

you know, the diminishing returns at this point.

It just, it wasn't nearly as good as something

like Lion King or, you know, the other films

that are far superior to it. It did its job,

but it didn't go that extra level or have characters

that really stood out. A lot of the side characters

were just rather generic and there was just nothing

really special about it. Even the villain was

kind of dumb. But it wasn't a horrible movie

in the 80s. I probably would put this behind

a lot of the other films we just went over, but

I'm glad it's not any higher. The funny thing

is, I actually enjoy Mulan more than this. I

kind of have to agree with you. Wow, did we all

just agree with Mike? Yeah. And the world is

about to break. No, I mean, I've seen this film.

It's not bad, it's not great, but it's also among

that last remaining of actually animated Disney

films before they went the entire Pixar route.

Funny note is Batman is in the film. Wait, what?

Christian Bale. Oh, geez. That's right. I just,

I had to throw that in there. I thought it was

funny, but yeah. So it's not that bad. There's

funny moments with the animals mostly, but other

than that, it's kind of ultimately one of those

forgettable. Frank Welker's in this too. Anyway.

He's in everything though. All right. We all

remember what happened last time we dipped into

the Disney pool. Let's see if it has that same

effect moving forward. So if we were to come

up with a theme for this first episode, this

first group of 20 movies, it seems like it's

Disney and it's modern. And I guess that is all

encapsulated here with our number 84 film, which

is 2009's Princess and the Frog. It was on seven

lists. The highest it got ranked was 23. Rotten

Tomatoes score of 84. So it's pretty highly ranked,

actually, for Rotten Tomatoes. 2009's Princess

and the Frog. Dan, have you seen this one? I

have. I did appreciate Disney trying to go back

and go back to classic animation after kind of

going away for such a long time. It is, I don't

know. I could see why then they quickly went

back to their CGI animation. They didn't really

stay with that path all that much, but it was

kind of an interesting nostalgia trip seeing

them go with a lot of those characters. It did

feel like your classic Disney movie, and I did

appreciate that they went to New Orleans and

trying to go to a setting and to a story that

they've never really touched on before. Overall,

though, I don't know. It's okay. I didn't...

I don't hate the film. I don't really love it.

It's just, you know, it's more notable because

of when it came out than its own quality, I guess.

It beat Pocahontas by five points. Is it better

than Pocahontas? I don't think so. I think the

songs of Pocahontas give it a little bit of an

edge over The Princess and the Frog. Steve, have

you seen this one? I know it's somewhat... Yeah,

I've seen this one. I mean, it's not bad. And

I did like the fact that Disney tried to go back

to their classic animation to some degree. But

I didn't find myself liking the songs as much

in this as I would. I'm kind of in the same boat.

I'd rather listen to Pocahontas songs in this.

The story is not all that bad. I mean, it's but

again, it's kind of that typical formula. of

Disney films. So, um, you know, the, the, the

whole princess aspect and, you know, it, I don't

know, it gets old. I mean, it disapproves with

our opinions. No, no, not at all. Oh, okay. This

is the worst Disney movie in the last 30 years

because of two things, because of one thing.

First of all, she's not even a princess. She's

a regular frigging girl. She doesn't become a

princess until she marries the god prince whatsoever.

And it's just so ass backwards. The animation

is okay. I prefer the Disney CGI. But at the

end of the movie, I was like... Okay, so they're

taking the whole princess kisses the frog thing

and turns him back into a prince and reversing

that whole thing. That's just lame and stupid

and dumb. Lame and stupid and dumb. Lame and

stupid and dumb. You got that right. And at the

end of it, it's like, she can marry the guy and

the curse will be broken. Yay! The only two good

things about this movie is that Jim Cummings

is in it and Keith David is in it as two of the

voices. That's the only two good, decent things

about this damn movie. If I never see this movie

again, it will be too soon. I guess I don't need

to see it anymore. So did you just say that you

prefer the Disney CGI over Disney classic animation?

When it comes to this movie, yes. I don't know.

I don't know why you have such a hatred for it.

I cannot stand this movie. This movie was so...

Pocahontas is ten times better than this. Your

issue with it saying, like, hey... He doesn't

become a princess until whatever. Does that mean

Aladdin's not good because he's not technically

a prince until he marries Jasmine? No, no, no.

The reason why in Princess and the Frog why it

sucks is because they say that the spell won't

be broken until she marries the prince. Okay.

My confusion is... It becomes a princess. Okay,

I'm fine if you have a problem with part of the

plot or part of the story. No, no, hold on. I'm

fine if you have a problem with that, but why

does that problem then translate into the animation

is not as good? Because I just didn't care for

it. Okay. Just wanted to clarify. All right,

so some strong opinions about Princess and the

Frog. We'll see how much strong opinions we have

on our final three films for today. All right,

time for number 83. Still staying with some modern

films here. 2004, and the film for number 83

is Polar Express. Castle Rock Entertainment.

It was on eight lists, so it appeared on quite

a few lists there. Steve, you had this ranked

all the way up at number seven, so you were the

highest one for this one, which is the first

time we've seen you have a film as the highest

ranked one. Rotten Tomatoes gave it a 56. I ranked

this as well, but we'll let you go first, Steve,

since you had it ranked a little higher than

the rest of us. How do you feel about Polar Express

coming in at number 83? Well, I like the film.

For multiple reasons. One, it's showing this

kid's journey of disbelief and the whole Santa

Claus thing and everything related to Christmas.

And then his journey and transformation into

finally believing by the end of the film. Two,

you have the CG style on this not only is borderline

realistic to some degree because even the conductor

looks like Tom Hanks. uh and the and the bum

on top of the train uh so i mean there's a lot

of like almost realistic kind of looks to it

um i i found this story to be i mean granted

it's nothing like exceptionally spectacular or

anything uh but it's it's it's a fun kind of

christmas film and uh again i just i i like performances

between Tom Hanks and all the various characters

in the film and then some of the songs that are

in it and again just the CG in it just kind of

at that time was stellar for what came out and

it was pretty cool for like IMAX kind of perspectives

with it. I definitely thought it was unique and

visually something that seemed like we hadn't

seen before. Do you think 83 is not a good enough

ranking for it? I mean, I'm fine with it being

at 83. I don't have a problem with it because

I'm sure there are better films that are ahead

of it. I'm sure I'll come into a point where

some CG films I'd rather were below this one.

But no, I mean, I'm happy that it's not in the

90s at least. I'm glad that it's on here. Dan,

what do you think about Polar Express? I'm not

a big fan, honestly. Honestly, regarding animation,

I really don't like it at all. This is, I think,

before stop motion animation really was there,

quite there yet. It was on its way, but I just

think the characters look lifeless. I think,

you know, you have the common complaint is like

the dead eyes. And I think that is a case here.

And the... I just thought like, unlike something

with Claudia's chance to be balls that took like

a children's story that was very basic and added

some life to it. To me, the story for the polar

express really didn't add that much. And it was,

it just felt like a series of events and not

actually a story being told, which is kind of

the, which is kind of what the book is, but I

don't hate the film, but I don't know. To me,

it's, this is when like Robert Zemeckis got stuck

in his soft motion animation phase. And out of

all of them, it's probably The Bastards much

better than Beowulf, much better than A Christmas

Carol. But I just, I don't, I think, put it as

highly, I don't, it seems like I don't put it

as highly as you guys. Mike, have you seen Polar

Express? Let me ask Steve, was this, wasn't Hanks

motion captured for this? I believe he was. Yeah.

Yeah, it was performance capture. And again,

it's another one of the Sony animation. Right,

yeah. So, same studio that did... I've seen bits

and pieces of it, but I haven't seen the whole

thing all the way through. It's one of those

films that, and I have to be honest here, when

I first saw it, it's one of those films that

kind of has to grow on you. Yeah. After a couple

of watchings, I enjoy the film. The first run

through, I was kind of like, meh. And then after,

I've come to like it. I mean, granted, it's nothing

spectacular, but it's one of those movies I like

watching every Christmas season. All right. Well,

Polar Express, I think, too, it had good timing

because it did come out around Christmas season.

I think it looked like something that was unique.

It looked like something that was... The marketing

was huge behind it, especially with Tom Hanks.

So I actually haven't seen it, so I can't give

you my opinion on it. But I did expect it to

fall somewhere in our top 100, so I'm not upset

about that. Anybody else? Did it come out in

November or December of 2004? Does anybody know

off the top of your head? It came out in November,

United States -wide. But Chicago, it came out

in October. Yeah, see, that's the thing. When

they do the Christmas movies, not just animation,

and they put them close to it, then depending

on which ones it is, some take off, some don't.

And I think this is one of those ones that did

take off for a long time, and it still does now.

Like Steve said, it's one that you can watch

if you liked it when you first saw it. It's one

you can watch every Christmas. All right. Well,

only two films left to talk about for today.

We'll see what those two films are. 82 all right

coming in at number 82 i believe this is the

first time we have gone back before the 80s i

don't think we've i don't think we've had a film

that wasn't in either the 2000s we've had a few

90s a few 80s this is going back before that

which i believe is the first it's also going

to be the first film that is on that has appeared

on half of the submitted list we're going back

to 1970s uh aristocats which is on 10 lists so

that's half of the list going back to disney

going all the way back to 1970. nobody had it

ranked higher than myself i had it ranked at

number 21. And it comes in at number 82. I have

a soft spot. I know this is easily one of the

Disney films that sometimes gets forgotten. We

talked about Oliver and Company in that respect.

I think Aristocats, Robin Hood in some respects

get lost because they're not the big names like

the classic Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Snow

White or Jungle Book or stuff like that. But

I think Aristocats is really good. I love the

diversity in the music. I love this film in general.

I wouldn't rank it as like the best Disney film

of all time or anything like that. So I'm not

completely upset that it's in at 82. I'm glad

it made the list. I'm glad it's ahead of Oliver

and Company and some of the other Disney stuff

we've talked about. But I'm not upset. I mean,

I know I had it ranked number 21, but I didn't

expect it to be that high. Mike, what do you

think about Aristocats? It's got some cool songs

in it, but I'm more of the dog lover Disney film

persuasion than the cat lover Disney film persuasion.

I think that's the only one. Yeah, well. No,

there was those evil Siamese twins in the dog

movie, but anyway. Dan, what do you think about

Aristocats? I do enjoy it. Like you said, it's

probably, of all the Disney movies, it's probably

in the middle for me for the most part. I do

love the jazzy songs and the jazzy score to it.

mrs mrs well with the overall story i mean i

love the character of o'malley and you know the

voice acting of phil harris i think overall there

was a lot of you know a lot of cool characters

you know it but uh yeah i do enjoy it um usually

when i hear aristocats or the first thing i think

of is that classic stand -up uh comedy joke the

aristocrats which is notably the most dirty joke

ever said. But regarding this movie, I'm glad

to see it. I do place this much higher than something

like Oliver and Company or Pocahontas or really

any of the other Disney movies. To me, it has

a lot of those classic Disney voices that you

know, like you hear them and you just know, you

just automatically associate them with. disney

movies so you may not know their names you just

they have those voices that are like in you know

movies like dumbo or aristocats and it just makes

you feel like a kid again when you hear their

voices it's really nostalgic in that end so but

yeah a good spot for it i guess steve your thoughts

on aristocats um it's one of those it's one of

those earlier films that i just i i don't care

for as much i mean i i don't mind the the the

film itself but i don't particularly care for

a lot of the animal films that are pre -90 1990

um i don't know they just don't don't pull for

me i don't know if it's because i didn't watch

them growing up as a kid and i watched them as

an adult that they just don't kind of linger

with me so i i don't really have a opinion i

i don't hate the fact that it's on the list because

i mean a lot of the disney films it's kind of

hard not to have on the list uh being that they've

all kind of had some kind of an impact uh on

animation but um i personally don't care for

it fair enough well there's only one spot left

in today's episode lots of films out there that

people are probably waiting to hear we'll see

if one of them is our number 81 film 81 All right,

rounding off our episode today, we've gone from

100 all the way down to number 81. And guess

what? We're going to end with a modern film from

2013. And our second Marvel slash DC entry on

our countdown, and that is Batman Dark Knight

Returns Part Dos. I don't know if we would consider

this a sequel or not, since it's really just

a second part of the other one. But it appeared

on six lists. The highest it ranked was actually

number six. 21 Network ranked it all the way

up at number six. 394 points for Batman Dark

Knight Returns Part 2. I will hand it over to

the rest of the panel. I have yet to see this

part because I was waiting for the deluxe edition

release where both parts are in the same release

so I could watch the movie in its entirety instead

of, well, I've seen part one. Part one's damn

awesome. Oh, part two. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'll

let you go in a second. Put your tongue away,

Joker. I'm sure part two is simply amazing as

well as part one was, but I have yet to see it.

I got to get the combined release. Go ahead,

Steve. Okay. I have seen part one and part two.

I've watched them back to back. Now that I have

them. Part two. Is the ultimate battle. Between.

Batman and the Joker. And Batman and Superman.

It's also. That's. The Dark Knight Returns. For

those not familiar with it. It's based off the

comic. By Frank Miller. Forever changed Batman.

Well, this was done beautifully on the animation

scope because not only do you have the grittiness

of the Frank Miller dialogue and type of animation

and everything, but it shows all the random extremes

that go on between the Joker and Batman on a

personal level. as well as some ramifications

of something that someone tells Superman to do

and Batman having to kind of put Superman in

his place before making some kind of a change

in his regime, I should say, without trying to

spoil it for any that haven't seen it. But it's...

uh i i think that it it holds up really well

um and it stays true to the uh um frank miller

adaptation yeah i go no i was just gonna say

real quick before you go dan uh kind of to preface

this um because you disagreed with their take

on world's finest um so how do you feel they

are they on par are they still overrating this

one no actually i i agree that this when i talked

about world's finest The one thing I was bringing

up was The Dark Knight Returns, and this is actually

the movie I was referencing. When you look at

it, because The World's Finest has that dynamic

between Batman and Superman, it is so much better

handled than this. They're not even... I mean,

some people could say it's unfair to compare

them because one is a Saturday morning cartoon

and another one's like a Dragon TV release that's

rated PG -13. Fair enough. But still, it is...

This, like I said, takes that format of... film,

even direct -to -DVD film, and does some things

very interesting with it. I think this stands

far and above all the DC animated movies that

went straight to DVD. This stands far and above

all of them. Some people could argue, well, yes,

it's because of the source material. All it's

doing is taking one of the greatest, one of the

most notable comics of all time and putting it

on the screen, which is true, but even great

source material doesn't always... mean you're

going to get a great return or a great movie.

There have been countless occasions where great

comic books, great books have not translated

well or they were not made well. In this case,

it stayed true, like Steve said. The animation

was flawless. There was enough little bits to

remind you of Frank Miller's art or the art of

the comic. There's so much that happens in that

part, too. It never feels overbloated. It never

feels like they're brushing through things too

much. Everything gets its proper time and proper

place. And to me, too, this is the first DC animated

movie to use that PG -13 rating and use it wisely

and use it well. So I'm really glad it made the

list. Is it better than something like we've

gone over? Maybe not. I had it in the 90s for

my list just because it's... But I do think,

as of right now, of all the animated films I've

watched this year currently, it's superior to

everything I've seen. I haven't seen an animated

movie that is nearly as good as this one. So

I do think the second half is better than the

first half, but I don't think it is kind of unfair

because the first half does a lot of legwork.

In the second half, you get all the payoff. But

yeah, Mike, I definitely advise picking it up

because it's pretty amazing. I ranked that actually

number 12 on my top 100 just because of how great

the film is. Mike, any other thoughts on it?

As I said, I've been waiting for the deluxe to

watch them both back to back. The first film,

as Dan said, does a lot of setup. but the first

film is still a damn good story. As far as Dan's

comments about using the PG -13 rating most effectively,

it does because Dark Knight Returns is a very,

very dark comic. I mean, it's something that

they probably had to cut back on a lot of the

animation stuff to just get it to a PG -13 rating.

But, I mean, I'm glad to see that it's here.

Fair enough. Well looking back at our first group

of 20 here a couple observations Some diversity

here. We've had a couple of anime films, Kiki's

Delivery Service, Ninja Scroll. We've had some

foreign films with Waltz with Bashir and Persepolis.

We've had definitely an influx of Disney films.

We've had some modern day films. So we're going

to get everybody's thoughts about this first

group of 20 real quick after this break. All

right, as I said, we've had a little bit of mixture

of everything. We're going to just do a quick

roundtable here and go around the table and see

what people's reactions are now that we've had

a little bit of a chance to let some of these

films settle in. Like I said, we've had two anime

films, two foreign films. We've had two comic

book films. We've had two sequels. We've had

only one film that... Predated the 80s with our

1970 film Aristocats. A whole lot of modern films.

Despicable Me 2, Rise of the Guardians, Paranorman,

Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, Princess and

the Frog. So a lot of ones from the last five

to eight years. A good deal of Disney. One, two,

three, four, five, six. seven disney films if

i'm counting right so starting with dan just

looking at our first 20 here 100 through 81 what

are your reactions so far based on the positive

side i'm glad to see that we do regarding just

format wise regarding medium regarding genre

we do have a variety there like you mentioned

anime we do have foreign films we have a claymation

we have stop motion animation so there is a variety

there and i think variety is good um there are

with 100 to 81 i think you do kind of have a

crap shoot you're gonna have those movies that

are really really good that probably deserve

to be higher uh cough cough loss of rashear and

persepolis but just haven't been seen by a lot

of people And you're going to have, I think,

those movies that are fresh in people's minds

that may make the list, like Rise of the Guardians

or other films like that that maybe don't deserve

it, but because they're recent, they didn't make

the cut. I don't know. Overall, I'm happy. I

am a little disappointed about a couple movies

that I've saw them already, but I'm probably

going to say this a lot. I do, in the long run,

I think it's good because hopefully it will get

people to... go out and try to experience those

movies and try to see what they're like and see

if they think they're better or if they deserve

higher. Like for example, I've never seen Ninja

Scroll. So I, while we're at break, I added it

to my Netflix queue and I will be checking it

out to see, you know, if I think it should be

higher as well. So to me, the numbers, you know,

the numbers can be what they are. I just, I like

more so diving deep in and discovering new movies

and seeing, you know, what other people think

of different mediums, as you can see. We all

have different opinions here, which is good.

So to me, that's the best. So numbers are one,

but you're going to have that. I think the other

thing that you get a little more at this end

of any of these countdowns is you'll have a few

more usually towards this end where not everyone's

seen it or one person's seen it or two or three

of the people have seen it, not everybody. And

I think as we move forward, it's more than likely

going to be the case where we get to the point

where. They're just films that everybody's seen

maybe. That's just a guess, but that's sometimes

what happens when you go start at 100 and work

your way up. I am interested to see that we've

already had two sequels and to see how many more

we see or is there any more sequels that are

deserving to be on there outside of a couple.

So how will that come out? To see kind of the

rankings amongst the genres, like as far as,

you know, if you're going to take all the Marvel

slash DC films in the order we put them in, are

we getting it right? If we take in the Disney

films, are we getting the order right? Some stuff

like that. So Steve, looking back at this first

group of 20, what are your initial reactions?

Kind of surprised in some of them. Along the

way. Are there any that we just, in your opinion,

any that just shouldn't be on our countdown or

any that should be very much higher? I wouldn't

say that some of them shouldn't be on the countdown.

But at the same time, I think some of them should

have been a little higher. Like, I like the...

Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs. I like the

Dark Knight Returns Part 2. I definitely think

that one should be a lot higher than where it's

at. For that one, at least the top 50 just for

what it is and because it stayed true to the

adaptation or the source material. So I think

that those should have been a little bit higher.

Again, some of them I'm not familiar with, so

I can't really comment, but then the other ones

I can't really disagree where they're at. You

know, Mike, I think you said something, I don't

remember if it was on air or off air, but with

the influx of movies from the last five or six

years, there's two ways to look at that. Either

one, it's saying that in a bad light that we're...

just more conscious of those because they're

more recent and our memories more fresh and so

we're we're giving them more credence than they

deserve or in the positive light um a lot of

them are appearing now in the countdown versus

higher up um so what's your thoughts about about

all these films from the from the more recent

years more recent years i mean like With me and

Despicable Me, with that franchise, those characters

are so lovable, each one for different reasons.

Yes, the stories might not be the best animated

film story ever, but specifically with those

characters, it's just so heartwarming in a lot

of places, and it's an evolution between DM1

and DM2. As far as the rest of it, personally,

I think princess and the frog should be at 100

and everything else is better than that movie.

I just, I don't care for that movie whatsoever.

I just don't. That's probably the only one that

I would really switch around. Um, the rest I'm,

I'm fine with so far. And yeah, I mean, having

says the thing is like, that's, I mean, we've

gone over four decades pretty much. 70s, 80s,

90s, and 2000s. I mean, there's more than one

decade so far in 2000s. But what I'm saying is

we've gone through those four decades in this

section of the countdown, right? So, I mean,

it's a nice variety. Sure, there are a lot more

modern films than I would probably like. I wish

it was more even doubt over the 100 list, but

the problem is if we have... the more modern

films closer to, say, like top 40, top 30, you

know, people are going to say, oh, well, that

just came out. How is that the best? Or how is

that this? How is that that? And, you know, I

know we ran into problems with that on the top

100 animated series countdown. But I mean, yeah,

I guess it is good that we're getting a lot of

the modern stuff out, as you said earlier, Kev,

you know, as we go along. You know, we get to

top 50, 40, 30. It's going to be a lot more of

stuff that people have seen. I'll say right now

for me, I was even surprised when Ninja Scroll

came up because that's like one of the only animes

I've ever seen. So and I know for a fact that

as soon as Kevin says, you know, hey, this is

the next anime film on the list. I'll immediately

hit my mute button because I don't watch that

genre. Not saying I dislike the genre. It's just

it's not my thing. And. Other than that, I think

we're off to a good start. I think we have a

nice variation of different animated films in

the first section here. So just going back to

Dan real quick before we close out the discussion

this time, anything as far as looking forward

into the rest of the countdown, stuff you're

scared about, stuff you're excited about, what

are you curious the most about as we move forward?

Well, my number two started this list, so I'm

really hoping my number one doesn't start the

next list because that would make me feel like

that. I'm curious to see if this continuation

of a variety of genre continues. I'm also curious

to see if this is the end of the modern stuff.

If we start to get more into the more classic

and more acclaimed movies from the past. I expected

it with the top. you know 20 does that now dissipate

more as we move on and we get closer and closer

so and to me i'm really curious like to see where

some of the uh how the studios stack up to each

other like the pixar versus disney versus dreamworks

versus uh you know sony and all those different

areas like you know who's really going to reign

supreme that'll be interesting to see so Alright,

well, there you have it, folks. Numbers 100 through

81 are in the books. Join us next week when we'll

be counting down numbers 80 to 61. For now, I

am TF2 and Mike with... Steve Megatron Phillips.

And Optimus Solo. And MovieRevolt Dan. Thank

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