TeamBotimus Variety Hour
Wizard World Philadelphia and Convention Autograph Culture

About this Episode
that that computer has been hacked, and you found
the latest video from Octobotomus. I'm at wizard
world Philly and one of the costumes I saw Gumbi
A zombie Gumbi Oh god I am so So fucking sick
of zombies It's like everybody I talked to on
Twitter and Facebook It's like, ooh, the zombie
apocalypse, ooh! We don't know what the end of
the world is gonna be like. We don't know what
it's gonna be like when God comes down to smite
the entire fucking planet, when all civilization
is fucking gone. People just astound me with
how they want, uh, make -believe, to be real
life. You know, you're not gonna be able to have
someone dance on your grave with a lightsaber
while chopping up bacon That's just not gonna
fucking happen. I Just thought you know, I saw
that person dressed like that then I get home
and I find out who the guy died And I'm just
like well it makes sense now That's so wrong
I know There was one guy who was dressed up as
Jesus Christ and he's being chased by the Ghostbusters.
I said he must have escaped from the tomb. Oh
my god. Oh my god. Yeah, I had fun today. I got
two more days left. Oh wow, you're going back
tomorrow, huh? Oh yeah, well tomorrow I get to
meet Stan Lee tomorrow. Get his autograph, get
a picture with him. Awesome. Got a VIP pass for
that. So what are you doing Bob? Oh, it's just
catching the end of smackdown. No I don't know
why punk was fighting Kane Oh God Kane don't
get me started. You said no rants, so I'm trying
to I'm not gonna rant on the damn thing, but
it's like The dude is how old now is like this
Christ. He's been around for almost 15 years.
Yeah The problem I have and I know Kevin doesn't
care about this because Kevin paid does not pay
shit attention to wrestling the problem I have
with Kane is They put him in the weirdest store.
Like there was a storyline where he was stalking
Kelly Kelly a couple years ago, right? It's like
Okay, if you're gonna make this up to be a stalker
Put him in a stupid C rated, you know, it's like
When I say C rated, I mean like, you know just
Stupid like made for TV cable movie. Don't keep
i mean the duty probably has physical prowess
but he's to me he's essentially a joke i mean
he's more of a jokin hornswoggle is yeah it is
because there's nothing you can do with them
unless you want to have him be a creepies i mean
they you know to kill time between uh... leading
up to wrestlemania this year they had him do
that you know embrace the hate ship was sealed
which is so fucking stupid and it completely
failed so it's like they just gave up on it and
people like Well, nothing ever happened to it.
So he went over to smackdown and started to do
it with Randy Orton Yeah, so he would have a
smash or a wrestlemania match. Yeah It was just
like They think our fans are so stupid you whore.
Wait a minute Mike, you know, you're watching
smackdown and you just checked in and get a sticker
That's right. Yeah I just got my first set of
actual real stickers in the mail the other day.
I was so geeky and I was like, Mike would be
so proud of me right now, look, I got him. And
for those of you who don't know what we're talking
about out there in Listener Land, first of all,
this episode is being recorded Friday night,
June 1st, so it probably won't go up until maybe
the 2nd or even Monday the 4th, so in case we're
talking in time with Kevin going to Wizard World,
Is it even called that anymore? Yes. It's still
called Wizard World Philadelphia, and then they
got Chicago and whatever all those things. Well,
because like Chicago, it's Comic -Con Chicago
now and all that crap. Yeah, when I went to Chicago,
it was Wizard World, so yeah. But what Bob is
talking about is GetGlue .com stickers. You can
order physical copies of the online stickers
that they allow you to have, and it's essentially
free, and it's amazing. I have one too. Three
four five I have like eight sheets nine sheets.
Oh my god. They're sticking to each other. Oh
Yeah, I have like nine sheets of stickers. Yeah,
I just got my first set of What do they send
you 20 at a time? Yeah, and I just ordered my
next one and they give you a month in between
them Yes, kind of I wish it would do them a little
bit Mean cuz I can get out I can get 20 stickers
in like a couple days Yeah, cuz I'm a dork and
I just check in the random stuff. Yeah, even
if I'm not watching it I learned that from from
you Mike Yeah condescending wanna wonka said
something about that on Twitter. Oh, you're checking
to get glue to get stickers You must watch a
lot of television. Yeah. No, I just want the
stickers What I found out is on get glue the
one The one TV show that I've checked into the
most is Phineas and Ferb. But I just checked
in tonight, and they don't even have stickers
for Phineas and Ferb, but I just checked in tonight
and I've been checking into it since I joined
Get Glue. I'm an elite fan is the ultimate status
you can get on Get Glue for being a fan of a
show. What I found out is that it does not count
your check -ins past 174 check -ins. Good Lord.
Yeah. Wow cuz I Yeah, anyway Um, so yeah tonight
on TBH we're gonna be talking Kevin's gonna be
talking about day one of wizard world Philly
I'm going to be talking about something that
is not gay because the geek cast radio network
does not support the opinion of Bob Gilmer Huntsman
So why don't we let Kevin go first with with
wizard world what was going on at wizard world?
Well, you know Fridays usually are not the killer
day Saturdays is a killer day, right? It's usually
where you can barely walk in the place And that's
all usually when all the cosplayers are there
too including myself tomorrow anyway, who are
you going as? The 11th doctor from Doctor Who.
Oh, I thought it would have been I thought it
would have been a zombie pokey. No, I don't I
don't zombie Doctor Who fans not a fan. Somebody
actually has a TARDIS by one of their booths.
And I told my friend Mike, we're going to be
we're going to be filming over there tomorrow.
Well, see, as soon as I walked in, because I
had to get on the line for the VIPs to get in,
they get in earlier than everybody except for
the press people. Right and my friend Mike actually
has a press pass. So he was already on the floor
I get in and I as soon as I walked through the
entrance, I turned my head to the left and he's
standing there I'm like, oh that was easy to
find you So him and I pretty much hung out for
the day. We walked around we filmed some stuff
filmed an intro For the video i'm gonna make
for wizard world filmed an intro for his Some
of our friends jumped in because they were in
their ghostbusters costumes We hit a panel with
Dean Kane. Oh sweet I've never watched Lois and
Clark, but he was a funny guy. He was a funny
guy. He is a funny guy That's a great show get
a chance to watch it. You should go back and
watch it I went because Mike wanted to go and
he recorded the entire thing because he's got
the press pass Then we went to lunch came back
and we did something else then we went to a Star
Wars Q &A panel with Jeremy book Peter Mayhew
and Nick Gillard stunt coordinator mm -hmm and
He recorded that whole thing as well and I actually
went up I said don't said I'm gonna go up and
ask him a question just so you can get it on
tape and I went up and I asked him about you
know, how hard I asked Peter Mayhew how hard
it was to actually work in that Chewbacca suit
for so long knowing how hot it would get and
things like that and I kept going on like a 10
-minute thing about the suit and all this stuff
and Just man, I couldn't believe he just wouldn't
stop talking and So that was really cool and
it's just cool because I've never talked to these
guys before I've seen him at other conventions.
I just never went to him or anything. So that
was kind of cool There was this one guy His hair
was bright neon green and it was just down like
two ponytails off his head and he was wearing
like the the Gordius outfit He was one of the
first people to ask questions to these guys he
was like I love you guys And and he got and his
questions were so dumb so they act he actually
got back in line to ask a question again And
they were like, oh no, the green hair guy's back.
Somebody call security. Somebody actually asked
them the question of who shot first. And Jeremy
Bullock just goes, Han. And Peter Mayhew goes,
I couldn't answer that. Chewbacca was away getting
the Millennium Falcon ready. Nice. Then I pretty
much I just went back in I had some of my friends
were actually selling toys at one booth Some
of my other friends Rosemary and her boyfriend
Tony were in there Ghostbusters stuff and we
were making plans for what we were gonna do tomorrow
and on Friday on Sunday as well making plans
for that I Walked around I found the TARDIS that
some guy had at his booth I looked at my It was
almost six o 'clock. I'm like, you know, this
is gonna close in an hour. I might as well go
home Yeah So I went home and I've been here ever
since there's nobody here the kids are at my
mom's house Staying there all weekend. I have
to leave at 11 Go meet my wife somewhere cuz
she's dragging me out for the night since the
kids aren't around when she You know, it's very
rare that I'm sure you guys get an entire night
away from the children. So yeah. Well, here's
the thing. I'm I'm getting up at seven o 'clock
in the morning to go back to wizard world I have
to go to Wilmington Delaware, which only 15 minutes
down the road pick up my friend Bob and then
drive us all the way back up to Philadelphia
I've got his wristband here. It's actually packed
away with my camera right now driving to Kansas
to come pick me up sweet Anyway, so I gotta do
that so I'm gonna get no sleep tonight and then
I'm gonna be at that convention from 10 o 'clock
in the morning all the way till I Think it ends
at 8 o 'clock tomorrow night My other friend
Gus wants to hang out till God knows when because
he's he's coming down from the New York area
staying in a hotel overnight So and he knows
I only live 15 minutes down the road from the
Convention Center So it's like, oh, we'll just
hang out. You don't have the kids. You don't
have nothing You don't have to go home like so
I'm gonna be you know, speaking of zombies That's
how I'm gonna be by the end of tomorrow night
And then I get to go back on Sunday do it all
again Yeah, but Sunday's a slow day for conventions
though, isn't it? I mean usually that one is
slow. I mean today was Fairly busy, but there
wasn't that many cosplayers. I just went with
the Just one of my dr. Who shirts and some shorts
I was like I said I need a day where I'm gonna
be comfortable because the outfit I'm wearing
tomorrow has a tweed jacket. Do you have any
idea how hot a tweed jacket gets? Yeah, and I'm
going to be in this thing for like Ten hours
Wow Because I'm gonna be using it to interview
other cosplayers both for the video I'm making
and for my friend Mike's show as well You know
I'm gonna kill myself tomorrow It's all for fun
That's funny. Yeah, there was some woman who
was dressed like Jessica rabbit. She almost had
the body to pass it off Her chest wasn't big
enough Her nose was a little too large. Hot looking.
We were still looking at her. There was one woman
dressed as a black widow from the Avengers and
Mike surreptitiously took some video of her walking
away. He goes yeah that goes to my private real
Oh One funny thing this dude comes up the escalator
he's in a galactus outfit But it's all made out
of like cardboard boxes like some people make
transformers costumes out of so it's all blocky
the whole costume And he's just walking around
going, I want to eat your planet. I want to eat
your planet. My friend Mike whips out the camera.
The guy starts singing. I want to eat your planet
just like Pac -Man. We lost it. We lost it. We
were laughing our asses off. Oh my god. This
is the stuff that happens at these things. You
do know that, right? Yes. But still. It was good.
It was all good fun. Yeah. I Can't wait for tomorrow
tomorrow's gonna be fun. I'm gonna be exhausted,
but I make sure I get a lot of caffeine in me
So I'm okay Yeah, it's it's gotta be death doing
cosplay like that especially you know long hours,
yeah Some of the women women cosplayers they
get off easy cuz they're wearing almost nothing
well, yeah My friends were actually, you know
Rosemary and Tony were actually I could see the
sweat all over them in their Ghostbusters gear
I mean, they've got the proton packs on their
back the jumpsuits everything else. Yeah, I'm
like this is killing you guys I said this is
why I didn't wear my costume today You know if
there's a hot enough chick that goes to a convention
all she really has to do is you know Put on a
bunch of orange straps and she could be lilu
from element and there you go Yeah, well last
year. I only went on the sunday because I got
in for ten bucks, right this year I didn't pay
for my stuff my friend did so that's how I'm
going to all all three days but There was this
woman Dressed as power girl now most women who
dress as power girl. They wear the onesie with
the long sleeves Right this girl didn't she wore
like The top was right Right, but she was wearing
just regular panties on the bottom nothing else
and What made it worse? Yeah, they were see -through
panties. Oh Lord life my friend and I were sitting
there. We got an eyeful of everything. She she
she had down there multiple times by Not hiding
a thing Wow, how do you go to a public place
like that? I can't see it. I just can't see it
That's a little nuts. Yeah, this is the things
I see. Yeah, what can I do? So I had fun today
I'm looking forward to the rest of the weekend.
I get to Go at 11 o 'clock tomorrow morning.
I get to sit in with the Stan Lee's Q &A session
That's what my vip pass guarantees. I get to
sit in there. Yeah, so I heard that's actually
It can be a laugh riot because he just goes on
tangents that have absolutely nothing to do with
anything His age is really catching up to him.
Well, yeah, I mean So I mean that you know that
kind of thing is forgivable because it is stanley
Yeah, you know what I mean? It's like it's different
when you get you know a president that's old
as fuck that attempts to talk about health care
and then he goes off into a tangent about peaches
or baseball or you know, I'm looking at you George
W Or George senior whichever one of the bushes
so they're also gonna have all five Star Trek
captains at At the convention tomorrow. Oh sweet
So, I mean my friend was thinking of getting
us that that pass that VIP pass They were fifteen
hundred dollars a person. Oh my god, but you
would have got all right All right. Now, what
what did that include? Do you know what that
included? Yes autographs from all five captains.
Okay pictures with all five captains. Okay, it's
one individually It also included they're doing
a special panel tomorrow with all five captains
that you have to actually pay to get in right
The VIP package would have included that Something
else you would have gotten some other stuff too
And you I think there was an opportunity to get
Some picture from William Shatner that was signed
by both him and Leonard Nimoy So I mean it was
it was there was a lot of stuff it's too late
fifteen hundred bucks uh... well yeah i will
see that's that's that's why i asked because
it was when we first looked at it was seven hundred
dollars and then we went back like a day later
it was fifteen hundred dollars is a good will
see the scene that's what i kind of wish botcon
would do not not that high i wish that you know
conventions in general would put the autographs,
like if you want to get an autograph from Peter
Cullen, if you want to get an autograph from
David Kay, Gary Chalk, whoever, you know, make
your packages have autographs included into the
price, because I remember a buddy of mine, Proto
Man, he went to a convention up in Canada, and
Leonard Nimoy, Essentially made people wait in
line for six hours and then by the time You get
there. He wants like 60 bucks for an autograph
and 30 bucks for a picture So essentially you
have to pay $90 to get Leonard Dean was picture
an audit I'm sorry that you know as much as these
people deserve to charge for that kind of stuff
I'm sorry. That's way too much especially the
fact they had to wait in line for four plus hours
because in the military said oh I'm going to
take a break and people just, they just, he just
made people wait. So, and when we went to Chicago
was the world. Um, Joss Wheaton was there and
a bunch of people and we waited in line to get
his autograph. And, uh, I had to firefly DVD.
Not not like the individual desk just the main
cop cover that they come in Yeah, and student
line and all that stuff and he didn't charge
anything. He just signed his stuff Hey, nice
to meet you on the next some people won't charge
but then other people will I mean even Kevin
Smith didn't charge one I got his autograph too
and and they didn't charge at all and they were
really nice actually sat there and talked to
you Well, yeah, but I mean, that's Kevin Smith
and Joss Wheaton. And not to take anything away
from them, but I mean, compare them to Leonard
friggin' Nimoy. I mean, you know, that's... Shatner
charges $75 for his autograph. Good lord. The
dude has to be getting... I mean, we haven't
seen any scandals about William Shatner bankrupt.
I mean... Except for when he killed his wife.
Yeah, I said it. I went there. Oh god. I said
it. Oops, she's drowned in the pool, darn. I
said it. Got to look out for another future ex,
Mrs. Shatner. Yeah. Everybody knows he did. Just
like O .J.'s guilty, everybody knows it. Most
of the people who charge autographs at Wizard
World, because Wizard World is a big event, and
you get a lot of larger names in genre circles.
Now, somebody like Ernie Hudson, he charges like
$25 for an autographed picture, but you get to
choose the picture. If you want to take a picture
with him, it's like another $10. Did he have
the prime picture? Well, no, no, he's not there
this year. This was two years ago I met him,
and he was really scared of me for some reason.
I don't know why. I really don't. He got really
nervous when he talked to me. I was just I was
actually getting an autograph for my friend.
It wasn't for me Yeah, it was just weird how
I you know, a lot of people like Ernie Hudson
was scared you I said apparently so I don't know
I just went up told him I needed the autograph
I chose the picture Yeah, yes, too. But I said
he was stuttering. He was he was like all nervous.
I could see him shaking I was like I Don't know,
you know the thing, you know what I love is is
you know people like Rob Paulson who Do their
autographs for charity? It's not necessarily
for themselves if you go over to Rob Paulson
live calm and listen to his talking tunes podcast
He'll say in there. You know you go on the website
You select the picture that you want. It's $25
for an autographed picture of Rob Paulson But
that money goes to the two charities that he
supports operation smile and wounded warriors
So I like you know someone like him Who you know
who does that and puts the money towards charity
versus you know, oh, hey, I'm Leonard Nimoy I
was the motherfucking spot bitches, you know,
I want all your money. You know what I mean?
So, I don't know It's just the way I mean um
Years ago Brent Spiner was there. Yeah, my my
wife had bought for my son Daniel what the Somebody
had it was like ten bucks. It was still in the
box. It was the old playmates Starship Enterprise
D, but it was the one from Star Trek generation
so it had like all these exploding panels on
it and bad damage and stuff like that and They
walked over to Brent Spiner. He saw it in my
son's hand He's like you want me to sign that
don't you so he signed it for her cool. So Well,
I've still got the box. I'm looking at it right
now. It's like a Up high where the kids can't
get it. The ship is long since been destroyed
But the box is still there with the signature.
That's all that matters cool Yeah, that's about
it for day one, you know Apparently Bob can't
wait for Tron uprising. I've already seen it
You've seen the show. Yeah, I didn't know it
came out yet It's the Disney channel did a special
uninterrupted premiere of the like the preview
episode Becks beginning. They did that on May
18th. Son of a monkey, but I missed it. Hold
on. Let me see if it's in the eye. It was in
the iTunes store for free, but I just want to
double check and make sure it's still free. See,
I thought it was just starting, so I didn't even
know. Right. It's on. It'll be on Disney XD.
Right. And it starts June 7th on there. Yeah,
you can go on iTunes and you can get the first
episode for free. Cool. But yeah, I've seen the
Tron Uprising preview episode back at the beginning.
It is very cool. Bruce Box Lightner is back as
Tron. My only problem with that cartoon is that
it's going to tell a story that takes place between
Tron Classic and Tron Legacy. Oh, see, I thought
it was after what happens after Legacy. No, it's
it's about this. It's about this this program
back who lives in a far corner of the grid called
Argon City, which reminded me of, hey, wait,
isn't Supergirl from Argo City? You know, it's
kind of like Superman. Superman means Tron. And
it's the story of him becoming the next Tron.
I don't think it's supposed to bridge the two
movies in between because we already know what
happens. So Tron's still alive during this? Yes.
Oh, okay. He's in the Rinsler suit. It's cool,
it's good animation, it's good voice casting.
Lance Hendrickson voices General Tesler. Nice.
I like it. It's good. It has promise, but like
you, I would have preferred an animated series
that follows whatever happens. Yeah, I think
there's filler episodes, like the whole thing's
in between two movies. Yeah. Like if they had
released this before Like It, like if they had
done this, like... four years ago before legacy
was even had thought i could see it i could understand
it but you know uh... you know it's kinda like
the whole thing with uh... batman gotham night
which is uh... stupidest fucking dc universe
movie that they've ever made uh... batman gotham
night is so it is six individual stories but
it's supposed to take place and tie batman begins
and the dark night together it doesn't do that
at all you're right It just does not do that
at all. But this, I can see it have promise.
But again, we know where it's leading because
it falls in between Tron Classic and Tron Legacy.
We know what the fuck happens in Legacy. But,
I don't know, I'm optimistic about it. I don't
want to sway your opinion of it, Bob. I think
we should check it out. I think the artwork's
really cool and... and i'm and i'm afraid of
trying i i wouldn't say the second movie i'm
a fan of the first one on of the second movie
the second movie was a nice it was a good sequel
because you know you you have properties nowadays
that'll be like oh hey we need to go back to
the eighties and we need to reboot stuff and
it's like no don't reboot Shit, and I'm glad
with Tron legacy that they continued the story
of Flynn, you know Yeah, I have to give it credit
for that and it wasn't like a reboot but this
the cartoon is like kind of like the Clone Wars
cartoon Yeah, so you don't watch that but it's
in between you know, the the second movie in
the third movie, right? Yeah, I've seen bits
and pieces of Clone Wars. I don't watch it regularly
though And you know being the big Star Wars dorks
that me and my wife are You know when they brought
back Darth Maul and all that stuff it as fans
that tied it together, so hopefully They do a
good job of tying the two movies being that we
know what happens You know I hate cartoons that
you know in between movies and we already know
what happens in the movie afterwards yeah build
up to that movie and if they don't do it right
it's just like such a waste of time yeah i don't
know um he's a big star wars dork but made no
comments when i mentioned the star wars panel
i was thinking oh man i i was just i was getting
ready to eat out i was like uh okay wait just
let him have his time Yeah, I would have totally
killed for that because like everybody's seen,
I don't know if you guys have seen it online,
but I think, yeah, you guys have. The voice actors
doing the Star Wars. Oh my god, that's fantastic.
Oh my god, I watch it over and over again. I've
seen it like seven times now. You'll have to
link me to that. I saw a piece of it, but I didn't
see it all. From an hour and eight minutes on,
they have the guy that does Bender's voice from
Futurama. He is Princess Leia. It is so awesome
because he's like look at my boobies boobies
and he's like don't defend your voice and I'm
just rolling Here I have it in my favorites in
YouTube. Oh Yeah It's fully worthwhile because
they change every every scene they change characters
and like the the girl that plays Timmy Turner
from Fairly Odd parents does it Tara Strong.
Yeah. Yes. She's there. It's just it's amazing
God yeah By the time this episode of team bottomless
variety hour goes up. I will have talked to the
real animated Batman He does the narration for
the whole thing. Yeah What I find funny about
Kevin Conroy The dude has a huge history in theater
and all that stuff. But as far as voice acting
He's done Batman 21 times in the last 20 years.
And I'm not counting like each episode, you know,
BTIS, STAS episodes, JL, JLU, Batman Beyond.
He's done that one character his entire career
and that's what his entire career is. I don't
think that's wrong. You know, I don't think that's
a bad thing, but I just, I found that funny because...
Normally when I go after an interview it's for
a specific thing Well like with with our review
shows like legends of the dark night podcast
Which is Batman the animated series and Batman
Beyond in the DCA you Batman films that you have
to tailor to those shows Whereas you know a general
interview you can just get and do a general interview,
but I'm when I get the interviews. I don't like
to just focus on the main topic I like to talk
to them about You know, you know how their career
got started how they broke into the business,
you know, whatever else and we can still do that
But I mean he hasn't done much Outside of Batman
as far as voice acting. He's done all these plays
and theater stuff and all that stuff and that's
great And we'll talk to him about that, but I
just find it weird that his entire career is
Batman Well, you know what, you know, that's
not a bad thing He is the best Batman And a lot
of voice actors are like that. They're like one
-trick ponies. There's some guys that branch
out, but like Optimus Prime, he's always going
to be Optimus Prime. Nobody knows if he's ever
done anything else or cares. Well, I do. He was
Eeyore, and he was... Actually, it's funny. He
was Monterey Jack in Chippendale's Rescue Rangers.
Nice normal people that I've ever You know only
TFG when Mike would know something like that,
but it's like, you know Optimus Prime Right.
Well and and it was it was a shocker to me as
a kid watching Transformers and then going over
to Voltron and hearing That it like wait a second.
What the hell is Optimus Prime doing on Voltron?
I just had that moment cuz I picked up the the
first set of silver home the blue lion The silver
hawks, oh yeah Silverhawks at Walmart, and I
was watching it. I'm like, wait a minute. That's
Lionel. It's like you're lying. Oh, yeah, it's
the same freaking show. It's just in space. They
have my bra and moon moom or whatever the star
star that turns into the robot guy. It's the
same freaking cartoon. Yeah, I was just like,
I haven't seen it since I was a kid and I was
like, well, it's 15 bucks. I'm going to pick
it up, you know, for 30 cartoons or whatever.
Yeah, can I make it? A quick shout out announcement
here. I guess. All right. Too late now. Nobody
listens to this show. I know nobody listens to
this show. But I figured if I'm doing this, I
might as well say something for them. My friends
Rosemary and Tony are actually putting together
their own convention. They've been working on
it for a while now. And they have a date set.
They're calling it RetroCon. And it's November
11th. in oaks pennsylvania the convention center
which is just outside of king of prussia pennsylvania
it's about a half hour from my house so they
already have larry kenny lined up to be a guest
there and they're larry's trying to help them
get one or two other voice actors from the old
thundercats show cool we'll see how that goes
so yeah you know there's you know we're talking
about voice actors and there's certain voice
actors that have been around for years that still
work in the business Larry Kenny's not well,
I mean he does his commercials and he does you
know that kind of stuff But when I I've interviewed
him twice and I've asked him, you know Do you
have anything coming up that you want to you
know, tell people about or is there anything?
You know any upcoming projects and he's like
well on Sunday I'll be going to my grandson's
birthday party. You know, it's like really He
is he is constantly telling Rose how much he
likes my kids Constantly every time she talks
of because his his one his grandson. Yeah, she
looks almost identical to my oldest son And he
just he just can't get away from that connection
that they look the same and I told you guys when
I first met him My oldest son was pushing my
youngest son in a stroller and almost knocked
the guy over Yeah, it's kind of stuck in his
head Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing him
again. It's been about a year since I've seen
him So and that's that convention is actually
two days before my birthday. So I hinted at Rose
that she has to get me a cake A thundercats cake
Something I'm actually probably gonna be working
there and helping them out, you know, right right
and ticket booths or whatever we're doing, you
know Because they want pretty much people they
know. Yeah Did find their site that you linked
on Facebook and I liked it so the the cotton
that they had Thank you very much. Yeah, that's
this is the first time they're trying that so
sinking their own money into it and Seeing what
happens? Yeah, I I Don't know we all loved you
one, right? Yes, I wouldn't say love Well, maybe
until like it started getting all trippy and
whoever was writing it was on acid or whatever
but After or before - In general - Before the
movie, yes. I liked it after the movie, too.
See, I liked it after the movie, I think. And
a lot of people argue with me. I think the Season
3, Season 4 theme song is way better than Season
3's theme song. Oh, yeah, I love that theme song.
I just like that theme song, yeah. Yeah. It also
brought in better story elements into Season
3. I mean, there were some stinkers, but there
were some really - dark, more adult stories in
season three. And I do like the bringing back
the prime, you know, the ghost of prime or whatever
in Starscream. You know, that was kind of cool.
I always liked it. One thing everybody always
overlooks with season three in the five faces
of darkness, Glitzwing quits the Decepticons
and walks away. Yeah. Yeah. And nobody ever mentions
that again. Yeah. I thought that was awesome
because he says this is absurd. This is stupid.
Why are we still fighting all this time and just
walks away? And, you know, you would never get
that in season one and two. Well, right. Um,
that means why... Go ahead, Bob. I was just gonna
say it was always funny when jazz is doing the
space Olympics or whatever And all of a sudden
he just like disappears. It's like that's because
scat man are already passed away Well, yeah,
it's like they didn't really have her finish
He's like he's running the marathon and he's
in the the gay space Olympics and it's just like
he thought Wow the reason why I ask is because
There's something on Facebook That people are
trying you know a friend of mine on there Christopher
P Kent is trying to get Transformers let me see
if I can find the page I think I'm friends with
him Yeah Transformers season 5 DVD the goal is
The page serves as a request to Hasbro to get
the original surviving voice actors back would
put DVD together that picks up where generation
1 transformers left off I, well, I think that's
all well and good. I think the problem with it
is, and you know, for the most part, for the
voice actors, they'll be like, sure, we'll do
it because hey, it's, it's, and I mean, no disrespect
to voice actors, but they'll be like, sure, we'll
do it. You know, we'll, we'll get behind it because
we're going to get paid for it. The problem I
have with this is that generation one is over.
It is what it is. Hasbro is not going to go back
in time You know to redo not really redo that
but to do something like that again We still
haven't gotten animated season 3 on DVD and that
shows been over for four years now three years
now, you know at this point for me Transformers
is all about the prime cartoon. I know Bob doesn't
like the prime card. No, I do I like it. I mean,
I've watched it now. You guys have beat it over
my head enough. I like it now. No, no, no. You
need to keep an open mind. And once we had that
discussion after the electricity issues and everybody
else went off the air, it was just you and me
talking. Right. I had an open mind you know I
went back and rewatched a bunch of episodes that
I already watched before and the new ones and
I can see the point of where it's going and I
was just over analyzing it and thinking way too
much into it and I do enjoy it I mean I really
you know my kids love it of course but when you
don't over analyze it it's actually good storyline
I mean it's for my kids this is their G1 And
that was the point, because in several of the
DVD commentaries, they say, you know, hey, you
know, we will homage as much as we can, but we
also have to tell our own story. And we're hoping
that, you know, the kids that grew, you know,
the kids that are now adults that have their
own kids that grew up with the original series
and Beast Wars and Beast Machines and all that,
we're hoping that their kids, this will be their
generation one. And this will start a whole new
generation. Right. You know my son or and and
he loves the the toys because I've been collecting
the toys and stuff and we play with him together
and Trying to show him how to transform him,
but he just watches me do it That's like like
Kevin, your video that you just did with Ironhide
that's supposed to come out in the cartoons,
and you said like he had the G1 -like head, so
it almost looks like a robot. It's like bleeding
our generation with my kids, you know, the new
slime. It's like a mixture of both of them. And
once I open my eyes to it and stop judging it
so much, I can see everybody's point, and it
makes total sense. And the thing for me is like,
I get that Christopher Kent wants to get this
going, and that's all well and good. But I'm
sorry, if Hasbro doesn't want to do something,
they won't do it. If they don't want to pay attention
to stuff, they won't do it. You know what I mean?
And that's kind of sad. But at the same time,
I didn't mind. I am probably one of the only
G1 fans that actually enjoys Rebirth. I know
a lot of people hate it. I like it. I thought
it was, you know, fairly decent story. I was
upset that they ended it like that. Yeah. Well,
originally it was supposed to be a five -parter
and then Sunbeau went to David Wise and said,
hey, yeah, we essentially got cut and this now
needs to fit into a three -parter. So, you know,
as far as what the story was for Rebirth, that
wasn't really his fault because there was supposed
to be a whole bunch more stuff about Optimus
Prime's journey in that. But a lot of people
in the fandom don't like rebirth and whatever.
I don't care. I liked it. I enjoyed it The only
part of rebirth I don't like is that one scene
near the very beginning of the first part with
punch and counter punch. That is just the dumbest
scene. I'm sorry. That was the dumbest scene.
Just him coming, well, you're just going to have
to deal with my Autobot counterpart. And he just
transforms and comes back in. OK, stop. And I'm
just like. I thought that was kind of cool, though.
I honestly did. Well, I mean, I'm just looking
at going, were they really that dumb that they
couldn't see that he's the same guy? Apparently
so. The name they knew they knew who the Decepticons
name is counter punch and the other guy is punch.
Yeah I Mean, you know I well I commend Christopher
Kent for for sitting that page up and getting
people Involved with it. I sadly don't think
it's gonna happen because Hasbro is not a company
that goes back in time to redo stuff or to tell
a new story. Hell, with all the stuff that Derek
J. Wyatt talks about about animated season four,
we've all been clamoring for an animated season
four direct DVD movie. As I already said, they
haven't even released season three on DVD. They're
not gonna do a season four DVD movie to finish
out that series. uh... they're just not uh...
right now for me prime is where it's at we're
currently on a break apparently we have fifteen
episodes in a row for season two and now they're
going on i don't even know how long the breaks
gonna be i think it's mid to late july It's not
that bad. It's not it's not a huge weight, but
it's right kids. It's for kids. That's an eternity
Well, yeah, it's it's not like true blood, you
know You have to wait a year and a half before
they start making, you know, the new season cut
out I have a new episode of Doctor Who's god
knows how long now. It doesn't come until after
the Olympics Or you know when it was still airing
the Sopranos because Sopranos seasons are like
a year and a half two years apart of each other
I still don't get the ending of that show. I
swear to God I know that last shot thing was
Tony getting shot in the head. Had to have been.
It had to have been. I don't know. Did you guys
see on Facebook my custom Galvatron that I did?
I did see that. Where did you get the head at?
It's the actual it's the same head. I just added
the head crest to it. Oh, I thought it was like
actually different sculpt head no No, I repainted
it. I repainted the face And then I made the
head crest it's three separate parts But I angled
them all right and just it took me an hour to
get that head crest right well It looks perfect.
I thought it was a completely different head
sculpt because I had that Megatron. I'm looking
at it going What you know and you know, yeah,
it wasn't zoomed in on the pictures But I was
trying to like hold line up and I was like, where
do you get that head at? Yeah, you'll have to
link me to that cuz I think I missed it my original
plan was actually to put the head from the the
Classics universe Galvatron. I couldn't get the
head off of Megatron though. Oh Some reason mine
would not come off the damn ball joint Yeah,
I'm glad you didn't use that universe head cuz
that universe head sucks That entire toy sucks.
No matter how many times they repainted or put
purple translucent shit in it That Galvatron
Trent tank bullshit sucks all the hell. It's
just horrible. And that's why I wanted to replace
and I've got the The three -pack version the
repaint of him with the white colors and all
that right and that looks better It looks better,
but it's still a shoddy bait toy. Yeah Cuz I
that's that's the one I had when I had it It
was it was the first time I ever had that mold
of Galvatron and Even you know getting it out
of the package his fucking arm broke off Yeah,
immediately his left arm just popped right off
the joint and it's like fuck There you go. There's
a link. You know you beat me to it. I was looking
forward to it That looks that looks really cool
If you look closely at the picture from his back
that molded Decepticon symbol on there I actually
painted a different color purple on Purpose and
I painted the molded in eyes back there red So
so it just when you see it in person it really
stands out. Yeah Yeah, now that looks really
friggin cool That alt mode is a little weird
though. I know you were going for the you know,
the cannon thing, but I don't know that was Well,
it's just you know, the cannon just sits there
So yeah that mold that that mold is set up that
way. You can do it like that Just by moving the
arms. Yeah, so it's just how I did it You know
a lot of people like well, you got to make it
into the cannon mode Well, I'm actually gonna
do a review of this. Yeah Sometime in the next
week or so because I've just I've got my hundredth
my hundredth video is coming up on Friday. Oh
Cool. Yeah Did you like my little attempt at
my I Don't know I guess custom of ratchet WPRS
logo on them. Yeah, that was cool. I didn't see
that that was pretty funny And and it was a temporary
tattoo Yeah, that I used and I was like wolf.
It's kind of like those old model kits back in
the old days you know you'd have to put the this
pinstriping in water and and then put it onto
the plastic and I was like well if that worked
why couldn't this work and It worked perfect.
I mean for my first try ever and then I got the
pke meter from my Egon Maddie collector figure
and I put it in rachet's hand so it looks like
he's actually ghost busting I don't think ratchet
believes in ghosts though. Well, I don't know.
He's the side side tech guy You know, I was just
like, you know, why not? Oh, you know, yeah,
but he he's all science it if there's no logic
in it He doesn't like it What there's no science
in ghost hunting. What are you talking about?
No, I'm just joking Cyber guys in science. I
did on knockout Do what? You did what to knock
out I painted him up some to make him a little
little more show accurate Oh, yeah, you put the
you actually put the gold in the wheels like
he's supposed to I actually went back. Yes. Was
it yesterday yesterday? Yes, and I painted silver
around the tail lights I painted tail lights
in red and white and painted in the the pipes
in the back I don't have pictures of that yet
because this is just something I went back and
I painted in the back when window black Well,
I almost picked up that figure Is it actually
worth picking up? I mean, I mean I've seen the
videos and I've seen your reviews and I've seen
everybody else's review But you know when you
actually transform the arms the white right way
and not the actual way the instructions say Is
it actually worth it? Yes. When you get him transformed
the right way, he looks good. I mean, he's still
a little weird, but he looks good. And then with
the paint, he looks even better. I mean, he's
it's just it's something that he's one that needs
paint is basically what comes out. Paint pens
to to do it. Do you tape it off at all? Like
when you did the rims, did you tape around the
black? No, I freehand all my stuff. See, I don't
know if I had that talent to do it. I do Plus
I have little tools. I can always remove the
paint with by a go -over Yeah, that's how Galpatron
Galpatron's all freehand. I mean the gun the
dark gray on the gun and his lower legs That
wasn't paint pen. That's actually acrylic paint
that I bought at the store same thing with the
orange on the barrel and That's everything on
him is freehand. I don't Don't mask anything
off. I don't do anything. That's how I do all
my figures. It gives him a nice personal touch.
Yeah Yeah, and the dark purple on him is actually
just a purple Sharpie marker And it's soaked
into the gray plastic and gave it that it gives
it almost a metallic look when you see it person
So that's cool Mike you didn't if you didn't
see the knockout. I have pictures of him. I can
give you that link to real Yeah, just give me
the link to knock out because I didn't I didn't
see that one All right, so because we're coming
up to where Kevin probably has to leave since
it's 10 till 11 The last thing I want to bring
up and I know Bob's gonna roll his eyes and he's
gonna let go that's good I'll mute the mic. I
want to preface this first though by saying I
have never ever liked the fairy tale of Snow
White. I hate the Disney film. The Disney film
is the dumbest plot I have ever seen in animation.
The Disney film is worse than the worst Daniel
Grimlock episode of G1. And I've never really
paid attention to Snow White's other incarnations.
There are plenty of them. I actually have it
pulled up on Wikipedia just to give you guys
some examples. I think the only other one I've
ever really seen was the one that was done on
Shelley Duvall's Fairytale Theatre. I saw that
one. But the new film that just came out June
1st, 2012, Snow White and the Huntsman, uh...
starting the check from twilight which i've never
seen those movies this is the first time i've
ever seen her act i refuse to watch that sparkly
vampire bullshit is the only vampire that matters
is angel uh... and his universe so this is the
first time i've seen her anything i like the
story i like you know that it actually made sense
because my one issue with the disney version
the disney film That everybody says, oh, it's
number one just because it was first. Just because
it was the first Disney, you know, whatever.
What I didn't like about that was it never really
stated in the Disney film what the hell happened
to her father. Because it's like, oh, the evil
queen lords over Snow White and lords over the
land. It never really says what happened to her
father in that animated movie. This one shows
you that the queen kills him. So, overall I liked
Snow White and the Huntsman. It's ten times better
than Mirror Mirror. Mirror Mirror is a joke.
I don't know how Julia Roberts attached her name
to that movie, but that film is a friggin' joke.
The other thing I'll say about Snow White and
the Huntsman is that I kept expecting the Huntsman
to break out a hammer, because it's Chris Helmsworth.
So Overall, it was a good movie. I don't Bob
will never see it cuz whatever You know, but
I liked it. I enjoyed it. It was It was a fun
ride and the special effects on it were great
They just were the only the only reason I would
see it is because the the queen coming up out
of the milk bath Yeah, that those commercials.
I'm like, oh slow it down a little bit more but
you know she i i really like her as an actress
but uh... naked fox wannabe uh... sheet to me
she has no personality uh... the girl from twilight
or whatever her name is i don't even care to
know what her name is kristin stewart uh... you
know whatever but every time i see her like except
like a kid's choice award or whatever it's like
g thanks okay well yeah that's that's her personality
and i don't really know that just kind of threw
it off All right, but when I go to see films
in anything I judge for the fictional work I
don't give a shit what the person is done see
and and I'm weird that way because if I don't
like a person I won't even bother go see their
films or whatever because it's like I can't stand
looking at him. I can't stand Aflac or Damon
So I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but you know, I it's
hard hunting alone damn it It's hard for me to
give either one of them a chance, you know, cuz
I seen Daredevil and the only good thing out
of that was Electra and I Don't know. It's just
I I judge people and I know I shouldn't but it
makes me hard for them to go see their movie
That's thing about Daredevil it ended Yeah, it
was done. Well, you know a bulls -eye was in
it. I kind of like bulls -eye Yeah, bulls -eye
was cool. Yeah, I gotta give you that. The thing
about Daredevil is that It wasn't the theatrical
version wasn't the movie that they want. It wasn't
the movie that Marks Johnson wanted to make it
was what the studio wanted them to make. And
then they released the director's cut, which
adds a whole bunch of story, because it adds
the whole line with Coolio in it as the defendant,
and adds the whole line about Lisa Tazio, and
it adds a whole bunch, it adds like, I don't
know, 17, 18 minutes of additional footage, and
it tells a better, the director's cut DVD for
Daredevil tells a better story than the theatrical
version of the film. I might have to check it
out, because I've never seen the director's cut.
Yeah, the director's cut was damn good. Sometimes
that's what a movie needs. Yes, yes it does.
So I think that's going to do it for us this
week. Sadly, Transformers Prime's on a break,
so the only Saturday shows I have now is Thundercats,
which is good every other episode. Young Justice
and Green Lantern in the Anime. Well, Green Lantern
actually ended last week, so unless they're gonna
go right into Season 2 like what they did with
Young Justice, I'm not sure on that, but I'm
loving Young Justice. When is Tron? Is it gonna
be like a Saturday morning cartoon, or is it
gonna be... Nope. Friday night or some crazy
thing. We're all never gonna hate it. It premieres
June 7th, which is next Thursday On Disney XD
at night. Yes, okay I was like I hope it's not
another Saturday night cuz I miss prime because
I'm always ghost honey I'm always investigating
and I always have to leave the house of like
four or five or seven and I always freaking miss
it Let me see if I can find one the actual I
didn't know if it would be you know during a
crash Kevin if you want to go you can go ahead
and go if you want I've got a little bit of time
She doesn't leave work like right away. So all
right, and I'm actually closer to where we're
meeting than she is. Oh Okay, well the one the
other thing I wanted to kind of rant about is
Not really rant and there's nothing to do with
any kind of weird toy company or anything like
that, but Locally here in Louisville, Kentucky
the company that owns our Fox and My oh formerly
UPN affiliate Refused the deal that the local
cable company made here inside communications
slash because they just got taken over by time
Warner inside communication slash time Warner
wanted to have Fox and and the UPN Myo channel
on for the same price as what they paid before
well the company that owns those two networks
locally wanted more money so guess what happens
We the customers get screwed out of shit because
of contract negotiations and We I no longer can
watch Fox or I'm not that I watch my oh at all
So even if I wanted to watch smackdown tonight,
I wouldn't have been able to Oh, no, wait, it
is on sci -fi now. That's right. Okay. Okay.
Anyway, the point is is that You know we the
customers get screwed because this local company
wants more money from the cable company that
owns these two station affiliates so And the
problem with Fox, you know television in general
is their shows like touch You know What else
touch Simpsons finder? What you know, whatever
else is on that network American fucked all You
know all that shit on their website fox is the
only network to my knowledge online that makes
you wait eight fucking days before they put it
up where is nbc will put it up the next day or
two days later abc same thing but fox may makes
you wait a fucking week instead of being able
to go the next day online to be able to watch
it it's not like you know we live in an age now
where where pirating television or or or downloading
or torrenting For the network shows really isn't
needed because the fucking networks put their
fucking shows online for free You know what I
mean? So yeah, it just kind of irks me that I
can't watch Fox anymore until these stupid contract
negotiations are What saying that and that's
the bad thing, you know, like the TVs and like
our cable company here in Wichita. Yeah I don't
know if it's them or if it's nationwide, but
the hub network When prime airs it takes them
almost five six days to get it up on in -demand
Because that's how I have to catch it and I'm
like and some some things are you know different
channels or the next day or day of You know an
hour later it airs. It's on in -demand Meanwhile
meanwhile people have it up on YouTube within
an hour Yeah, but I hate watching YouTube because
you know I kind of believe in Paul if you don't
support it when it actually airs Take it off,
you know that that whole thing. I Mean, I I'm
not saying I've never done that about get glue
is that even if you can't watch it You can still
check into something with get glue and you can
still support it at its time slot So even though
you're not actually watching the damn thing,
you're still showing your support. Yeah, I kind
of wondered how many actually You know networks
and stuff. They actually judged that they go.
I honestly don't because the networks go by You
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the networks the networks do not go the networks
are so in the The dinosaur age of Of ratings
they don't go by and in the DVR reading or anything
like that I think that's gonna do it for this
week Bob mysteriously disappeared because we
had Skype issues during this podcast recording
But I'm sure you'll have a full recap of Saturday
and Sunday next week on yeah. Oh Let's hope the
sweat doesn't kill you I'm actually gonna take
one of my my kids backpacks. It's Optimus Prime
backpack I'm gonna put like my extra clothes
and some water and stuff like that in it so I
don't get dehydrated Cool. Cool. All right. Well,
that's it for this week's TV VH This was episode
21 and we will see you next week. Bye. This is
Kevin Conway, and I am the goddamn Batman
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