TeamBotimus Variety Hour

Wizard World Philadelphia and Convention Autograph Culture

November 29, 2018 1:04:05 EXPLICIT
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About this Episode

The hosts discuss their experiences at the first day of Wizard World Philadelphia, including panels with Dean Cain and the original Star Wars actors, and personal anecdotes about navigating autograph costs. The conversation shifts to the broader culture of voice acting, focusing on the career of Kevin Conroy and the history of Peter Cullen. They also share thoughts on the Tron: Uprising animated series and provide a preview for the upcoming RetroCon event in Oaks, Pennsylvania.

that that computer has been hacked, and you found

the latest video from Octobotomus. I'm at wizard

world Philly and one of the costumes I saw Gumbi

A zombie Gumbi Oh god I am so So fucking sick

of zombies It's like everybody I talked to on

Twitter and Facebook It's like, ooh, the zombie

apocalypse, ooh! We don't know what the end of

the world is gonna be like. We don't know what

it's gonna be like when God comes down to smite

the entire fucking planet, when all civilization

is fucking gone. People just astound me with

how they want, uh, make -believe, to be real

life. You know, you're not gonna be able to have

someone dance on your grave with a lightsaber

while chopping up bacon That's just not gonna

fucking happen. I Just thought you know, I saw

that person dressed like that then I get home

and I find out who the guy died And I'm just

like well it makes sense now That's so wrong

I know There was one guy who was dressed up as

Jesus Christ and he's being chased by the Ghostbusters.

I said he must have escaped from the tomb. Oh

my god. Oh my god. Yeah, I had fun today. I got

two more days left. Oh wow, you're going back

tomorrow, huh? Oh yeah, well tomorrow I get to

meet Stan Lee tomorrow. Get his autograph, get

a picture with him. Awesome. Got a VIP pass for

that. So what are you doing Bob? Oh, it's just

catching the end of smackdown. No I don't know

why punk was fighting Kane Oh God Kane don't

get me started. You said no rants, so I'm trying

to I'm not gonna rant on the damn thing, but

it's like The dude is how old now is like this

Christ. He's been around for almost 15 years.

Yeah The problem I have and I know Kevin doesn't

care about this because Kevin paid does not pay

shit attention to wrestling the problem I have

with Kane is They put him in the weirdest store.

Like there was a storyline where he was stalking

Kelly Kelly a couple years ago, right? It's like

Okay, if you're gonna make this up to be a stalker

Put him in a stupid C rated, you know, it's like

When I say C rated, I mean like, you know just

Stupid like made for TV cable movie. Don't keep

i mean the duty probably has physical prowess

but he's to me he's essentially a joke i mean

he's more of a jokin hornswoggle is yeah it is

because there's nothing you can do with them

unless you want to have him be a creepies i mean

they you know to kill time between uh... leading

up to wrestlemania this year they had him do

that you know embrace the hate ship was sealed

which is so fucking stupid and it completely

failed so it's like they just gave up on it and

people like Well, nothing ever happened to it.

So he went over to smackdown and started to do

it with Randy Orton Yeah, so he would have a

smash or a wrestlemania match. Yeah It was just

like They think our fans are so stupid you whore.

Wait a minute Mike, you know, you're watching

smackdown and you just checked in and get a sticker

That's right. Yeah I just got my first set of

actual real stickers in the mail the other day.

I was so geeky and I was like, Mike would be

so proud of me right now, look, I got him. And

for those of you who don't know what we're talking

about out there in Listener Land, first of all,

this episode is being recorded Friday night,

June 1st, so it probably won't go up until maybe

the 2nd or even Monday the 4th, so in case we're

talking in time with Kevin going to Wizard World,

Is it even called that anymore? Yes. It's still

called Wizard World Philadelphia, and then they

got Chicago and whatever all those things. Well,

because like Chicago, it's Comic -Con Chicago

now and all that crap. Yeah, when I went to Chicago,

it was Wizard World, so yeah. But what Bob is

talking about is GetGlue .com stickers. You can

order physical copies of the online stickers

that they allow you to have, and it's essentially

free, and it's amazing. I have one too. Three

four five I have like eight sheets nine sheets.

Oh my god. They're sticking to each other. Oh

Yeah, I have like nine sheets of stickers. Yeah,

I just got my first set of What do they send

you 20 at a time? Yeah, and I just ordered my

next one and they give you a month in between

them Yes, kind of I wish it would do them a little

bit Mean cuz I can get out I can get 20 stickers

in like a couple days Yeah, cuz I'm a dork and

I just check in the random stuff. Yeah, even

if I'm not watching it I learned that from from

you Mike Yeah condescending wanna wonka said

something about that on Twitter. Oh, you're checking

to get glue to get stickers You must watch a

lot of television. Yeah. No, I just want the

stickers What I found out is on get glue the

one The one TV show that I've checked into the

most is Phineas and Ferb. But I just checked

in tonight, and they don't even have stickers

for Phineas and Ferb, but I just checked in tonight

and I've been checking into it since I joined

Get Glue. I'm an elite fan is the ultimate status

you can get on Get Glue for being a fan of a

show. What I found out is that it does not count

your check -ins past 174 check -ins. Good Lord.

Yeah. Wow cuz I Yeah, anyway Um, so yeah tonight

on TBH we're gonna be talking Kevin's gonna be

talking about day one of wizard world Philly

I'm going to be talking about something that

is not gay because the geek cast radio network

does not support the opinion of Bob Gilmer Huntsman

So why don't we let Kevin go first with with

wizard world what was going on at wizard world?

Well, you know Fridays usually are not the killer

day Saturdays is a killer day, right? It's usually

where you can barely walk in the place And that's

all usually when all the cosplayers are there

too including myself tomorrow anyway, who are

you going as? The 11th doctor from Doctor Who.

Oh, I thought it would have been I thought it

would have been a zombie pokey. No, I don't I

don't zombie Doctor Who fans not a fan. Somebody

actually has a TARDIS by one of their booths.

And I told my friend Mike, we're going to be

we're going to be filming over there tomorrow.

Well, see, as soon as I walked in, because I

had to get on the line for the VIPs to get in,

they get in earlier than everybody except for

the press people. Right and my friend Mike actually

has a press pass. So he was already on the floor

I get in and I as soon as I walked through the

entrance, I turned my head to the left and he's

standing there I'm like, oh that was easy to

find you So him and I pretty much hung out for

the day. We walked around we filmed some stuff

filmed an intro For the video i'm gonna make

for wizard world filmed an intro for his Some

of our friends jumped in because they were in

their ghostbusters costumes We hit a panel with

Dean Kane. Oh sweet I've never watched Lois and

Clark, but he was a funny guy. He was a funny

guy. He is a funny guy That's a great show get

a chance to watch it. You should go back and

watch it I went because Mike wanted to go and

he recorded the entire thing because he's got

the press pass Then we went to lunch came back

and we did something else then we went to a Star

Wars Q &A panel with Jeremy book Peter Mayhew

and Nick Gillard stunt coordinator mm -hmm and

He recorded that whole thing as well and I actually

went up I said don't said I'm gonna go up and

ask him a question just so you can get it on

tape and I went up and I asked him about you

know, how hard I asked Peter Mayhew how hard

it was to actually work in that Chewbacca suit

for so long knowing how hot it would get and

things like that and I kept going on like a 10

-minute thing about the suit and all this stuff

and Just man, I couldn't believe he just wouldn't

stop talking and So that was really cool and

it's just cool because I've never talked to these

guys before I've seen him at other conventions.

I just never went to him or anything. So that

was kind of cool There was this one guy His hair

was bright neon green and it was just down like

two ponytails off his head and he was wearing

like the the Gordius outfit He was one of the

first people to ask questions to these guys he

was like I love you guys And and he got and his

questions were so dumb so they act he actually

got back in line to ask a question again And

they were like, oh no, the green hair guy's back.

Somebody call security. Somebody actually asked

them the question of who shot first. And Jeremy

Bullock just goes, Han. And Peter Mayhew goes,

I couldn't answer that. Chewbacca was away getting

the Millennium Falcon ready. Nice. Then I pretty

much I just went back in I had some of my friends

were actually selling toys at one booth Some

of my other friends Rosemary and her boyfriend

Tony were in there Ghostbusters stuff and we

were making plans for what we were gonna do tomorrow

and on Friday on Sunday as well making plans

for that I Walked around I found the TARDIS that

some guy had at his booth I looked at my It was

almost six o 'clock. I'm like, you know, this

is gonna close in an hour. I might as well go

home Yeah So I went home and I've been here ever

since there's nobody here the kids are at my

mom's house Staying there all weekend. I have

to leave at 11 Go meet my wife somewhere cuz

she's dragging me out for the night since the

kids aren't around when she You know, it's very

rare that I'm sure you guys get an entire night

away from the children. So yeah. Well, here's

the thing. I'm I'm getting up at seven o 'clock

in the morning to go back to wizard world I have

to go to Wilmington Delaware, which only 15 minutes

down the road pick up my friend Bob and then

drive us all the way back up to Philadelphia

I've got his wristband here. It's actually packed

away with my camera right now driving to Kansas

to come pick me up sweet Anyway, so I gotta do

that so I'm gonna get no sleep tonight and then

I'm gonna be at that convention from 10 o 'clock

in the morning all the way till I Think it ends

at 8 o 'clock tomorrow night My other friend

Gus wants to hang out till God knows when because

he's he's coming down from the New York area

staying in a hotel overnight So and he knows

I only live 15 minutes down the road from the

Convention Center So it's like, oh, we'll just

hang out. You don't have the kids. You don't

have nothing You don't have to go home like so

I'm gonna be you know, speaking of zombies That's

how I'm gonna be by the end of tomorrow night

And then I get to go back on Sunday do it all

again Yeah, but Sunday's a slow day for conventions

though, isn't it? I mean usually that one is

slow. I mean today was Fairly busy, but there

wasn't that many cosplayers. I just went with

the Just one of my dr. Who shirts and some shorts

I was like I said I need a day where I'm gonna

be comfortable because the outfit I'm wearing

tomorrow has a tweed jacket. Do you have any

idea how hot a tweed jacket gets? Yeah, and I'm

going to be in this thing for like Ten hours

Wow Because I'm gonna be using it to interview

other cosplayers both for the video I'm making

and for my friend Mike's show as well You know

I'm gonna kill myself tomorrow It's all for fun

That's funny. Yeah, there was some woman who

was dressed like Jessica rabbit. She almost had

the body to pass it off Her chest wasn't big

enough Her nose was a little too large. Hot looking.

We were still looking at her. There was one woman

dressed as a black widow from the Avengers and

Mike surreptitiously took some video of her walking

away. He goes yeah that goes to my private real

Oh One funny thing this dude comes up the escalator

he's in a galactus outfit But it's all made out

of like cardboard boxes like some people make

transformers costumes out of so it's all blocky

the whole costume And he's just walking around

going, I want to eat your planet. I want to eat

your planet. My friend Mike whips out the camera.

The guy starts singing. I want to eat your planet

just like Pac -Man. We lost it. We lost it. We

were laughing our asses off. Oh my god. This

is the stuff that happens at these things. You

do know that, right? Yes. But still. It was good.

It was all good fun. Yeah. I Can't wait for tomorrow

tomorrow's gonna be fun. I'm gonna be exhausted,

but I make sure I get a lot of caffeine in me

So I'm okay Yeah, it's it's gotta be death doing

cosplay like that especially you know long hours,

yeah Some of the women women cosplayers they

get off easy cuz they're wearing almost nothing

well, yeah My friends were actually, you know

Rosemary and Tony were actually I could see the

sweat all over them in their Ghostbusters gear

I mean, they've got the proton packs on their

back the jumpsuits everything else. Yeah, I'm

like this is killing you guys I said this is

why I didn't wear my costume today You know if

there's a hot enough chick that goes to a convention

all she really has to do is you know Put on a

bunch of orange straps and she could be lilu

from element and there you go Yeah, well last

year. I only went on the sunday because I got

in for ten bucks, right this year I didn't pay

for my stuff my friend did so that's how I'm

going to all all three days but There was this

woman Dressed as power girl now most women who

dress as power girl. They wear the onesie with

the long sleeves Right this girl didn't she wore

like The top was right Right, but she was wearing

just regular panties on the bottom nothing else

and What made it worse? Yeah, they were see -through

panties. Oh Lord life my friend and I were sitting

there. We got an eyeful of everything. She she

she had down there multiple times by Not hiding

a thing Wow, how do you go to a public place

like that? I can't see it. I just can't see it

That's a little nuts. Yeah, this is the things

I see. Yeah, what can I do? So I had fun today

I'm looking forward to the rest of the weekend.

I get to Go at 11 o 'clock tomorrow morning.

I get to sit in with the Stan Lee's Q &A session

That's what my vip pass guarantees. I get to

sit in there. Yeah, so I heard that's actually

It can be a laugh riot because he just goes on

tangents that have absolutely nothing to do with

anything His age is really catching up to him.

Well, yeah, I mean So I mean that you know that

kind of thing is forgivable because it is stanley

Yeah, you know what I mean? It's like it's different

when you get you know a president that's old

as fuck that attempts to talk about health care

and then he goes off into a tangent about peaches

or baseball or you know, I'm looking at you George

W Or George senior whichever one of the bushes

so they're also gonna have all five Star Trek

captains at At the convention tomorrow. Oh sweet

So, I mean my friend was thinking of getting

us that that pass that VIP pass They were fifteen

hundred dollars a person. Oh my god, but you

would have got all right All right. Now, what

what did that include? Do you know what that

included? Yes autographs from all five captains.

Okay pictures with all five captains. Okay, it's

one individually It also included they're doing

a special panel tomorrow with all five captains

that you have to actually pay to get in right

The VIP package would have included that Something

else you would have gotten some other stuff too

And you I think there was an opportunity to get

Some picture from William Shatner that was signed

by both him and Leonard Nimoy So I mean it was

it was there was a lot of stuff it's too late

fifteen hundred bucks uh... well yeah i will

see that's that's that's why i asked because

it was when we first looked at it was seven hundred

dollars and then we went back like a day later

it was fifteen hundred dollars is a good will

see the scene that's what i kind of wish botcon

would do not not that high i wish that you know

conventions in general would put the autographs,

like if you want to get an autograph from Peter

Cullen, if you want to get an autograph from

David Kay, Gary Chalk, whoever, you know, make

your packages have autographs included into the

price, because I remember a buddy of mine, Proto

Man, he went to a convention up in Canada, and

Leonard Nimoy, Essentially made people wait in

line for six hours and then by the time You get

there. He wants like 60 bucks for an autograph

and 30 bucks for a picture So essentially you

have to pay $90 to get Leonard Dean was picture

an audit I'm sorry that you know as much as these

people deserve to charge for that kind of stuff

I'm sorry. That's way too much especially the

fact they had to wait in line for four plus hours

because in the military said oh I'm going to

take a break and people just, they just, he just

made people wait. So, and when we went to Chicago

was the world. Um, Joss Wheaton was there and

a bunch of people and we waited in line to get

his autograph. And, uh, I had to firefly DVD.

Not not like the individual desk just the main

cop cover that they come in Yeah, and student

line and all that stuff and he didn't charge

anything. He just signed his stuff Hey, nice

to meet you on the next some people won't charge

but then other people will I mean even Kevin

Smith didn't charge one I got his autograph too

and and they didn't charge at all and they were

really nice actually sat there and talked to

you Well, yeah, but I mean, that's Kevin Smith

and Joss Wheaton. And not to take anything away

from them, but I mean, compare them to Leonard

friggin' Nimoy. I mean, you know, that's... Shatner

charges $75 for his autograph. Good lord. The

dude has to be getting... I mean, we haven't

seen any scandals about William Shatner bankrupt.

I mean... Except for when he killed his wife.

Yeah, I said it. I went there. Oh god. I said

it. Oops, she's drowned in the pool, darn. I

said it. Got to look out for another future ex,

Mrs. Shatner. Yeah. Everybody knows he did. Just

like O .J.'s guilty, everybody knows it. Most

of the people who charge autographs at Wizard

World, because Wizard World is a big event, and

you get a lot of larger names in genre circles.

Now, somebody like Ernie Hudson, he charges like

$25 for an autographed picture, but you get to

choose the picture. If you want to take a picture

with him, it's like another $10. Did he have

the prime picture? Well, no, no, he's not there

this year. This was two years ago I met him,

and he was really scared of me for some reason.

I don't know why. I really don't. He got really

nervous when he talked to me. I was just I was

actually getting an autograph for my friend.

It wasn't for me Yeah, it was just weird how

I you know, a lot of people like Ernie Hudson

was scared you I said apparently so I don't know

I just went up told him I needed the autograph

I chose the picture Yeah, yes, too. But I said

he was stuttering. He was he was like all nervous.

I could see him shaking I was like I Don't know,

you know the thing, you know what I love is is

you know people like Rob Paulson who Do their

autographs for charity? It's not necessarily

for themselves if you go over to Rob Paulson

live calm and listen to his talking tunes podcast

He'll say in there. You know you go on the website

You select the picture that you want. It's $25

for an autographed picture of Rob Paulson But

that money goes to the two charities that he

supports operation smile and wounded warriors

So I like you know someone like him Who you know

who does that and puts the money towards charity

versus you know, oh, hey, I'm Leonard Nimoy I

was the motherfucking spot bitches, you know,

I want all your money. You know what I mean?

So, I don't know It's just the way I mean um

Years ago Brent Spiner was there. Yeah, my my

wife had bought for my son Daniel what the Somebody

had it was like ten bucks. It was still in the

box. It was the old playmates Starship Enterprise

D, but it was the one from Star Trek generation

so it had like all these exploding panels on

it and bad damage and stuff like that and They

walked over to Brent Spiner. He saw it in my

son's hand He's like you want me to sign that

don't you so he signed it for her cool. So Well,

I've still got the box. I'm looking at it right

now. It's like a Up high where the kids can't

get it. The ship is long since been destroyed

But the box is still there with the signature.

That's all that matters cool Yeah, that's about

it for day one, you know Apparently Bob can't

wait for Tron uprising. I've already seen it

You've seen the show. Yeah, I didn't know it

came out yet It's the Disney channel did a special

uninterrupted premiere of the like the preview

episode Becks beginning. They did that on May

18th. Son of a monkey, but I missed it. Hold

on. Let me see if it's in the eye. It was in

the iTunes store for free, but I just want to

double check and make sure it's still free. See,

I thought it was just starting, so I didn't even

know. Right. It's on. It'll be on Disney XD.

Right. And it starts June 7th on there. Yeah,

you can go on iTunes and you can get the first

episode for free. Cool. But yeah, I've seen the

Tron Uprising preview episode back at the beginning.

It is very cool. Bruce Box Lightner is back as

Tron. My only problem with that cartoon is that

it's going to tell a story that takes place between

Tron Classic and Tron Legacy. Oh, see, I thought

it was after what happens after Legacy. No, it's

it's about this. It's about this this program

back who lives in a far corner of the grid called

Argon City, which reminded me of, hey, wait,

isn't Supergirl from Argo City? You know, it's

kind of like Superman. Superman means Tron. And

it's the story of him becoming the next Tron.

I don't think it's supposed to bridge the two

movies in between because we already know what

happens. So Tron's still alive during this? Yes.

Oh, okay. He's in the Rinsler suit. It's cool,

it's good animation, it's good voice casting.

Lance Hendrickson voices General Tesler. Nice.

I like it. It's good. It has promise, but like

you, I would have preferred an animated series

that follows whatever happens. Yeah, I think

there's filler episodes, like the whole thing's

in between two movies. Yeah. Like if they had

released this before Like It, like if they had

done this, like... four years ago before legacy

was even had thought i could see it i could understand

it but you know uh... you know it's kinda like

the whole thing with uh... batman gotham night

which is uh... stupidest fucking dc universe

movie that they've ever made uh... batman gotham

night is so it is six individual stories but

it's supposed to take place and tie batman begins

and the dark night together it doesn't do that

at all you're right It just does not do that

at all. But this, I can see it have promise.

But again, we know where it's leading because

it falls in between Tron Classic and Tron Legacy.

We know what the fuck happens in Legacy. But,

I don't know, I'm optimistic about it. I don't

want to sway your opinion of it, Bob. I think

we should check it out. I think the artwork's

really cool and... and i'm and i'm afraid of

trying i i wouldn't say the second movie i'm

a fan of the first one on of the second movie

the second movie was a nice it was a good sequel

because you know you you have properties nowadays

that'll be like oh hey we need to go back to

the eighties and we need to reboot stuff and

it's like no don't reboot Shit, and I'm glad

with Tron legacy that they continued the story

of Flynn, you know Yeah, I have to give it credit

for that and it wasn't like a reboot but this

the cartoon is like kind of like the Clone Wars

cartoon Yeah, so you don't watch that but it's

in between you know, the the second movie in

the third movie, right? Yeah, I've seen bits

and pieces of Clone Wars. I don't watch it regularly

though And you know being the big Star Wars dorks

that me and my wife are You know when they brought

back Darth Maul and all that stuff it as fans

that tied it together, so hopefully They do a

good job of tying the two movies being that we

know what happens You know I hate cartoons that

you know in between movies and we already know

what happens in the movie afterwards yeah build

up to that movie and if they don't do it right

it's just like such a waste of time yeah i don't

know um he's a big star wars dork but made no

comments when i mentioned the star wars panel

i was thinking oh man i i was just i was getting

ready to eat out i was like uh okay wait just

let him have his time Yeah, I would have totally

killed for that because like everybody's seen,

I don't know if you guys have seen it online,

but I think, yeah, you guys have. The voice actors

doing the Star Wars. Oh my god, that's fantastic.

Oh my god, I watch it over and over again. I've

seen it like seven times now. You'll have to

link me to that. I saw a piece of it, but I didn't

see it all. From an hour and eight minutes on,

they have the guy that does Bender's voice from

Futurama. He is Princess Leia. It is so awesome

because he's like look at my boobies boobies

and he's like don't defend your voice and I'm

just rolling Here I have it in my favorites in

YouTube. Oh Yeah It's fully worthwhile because

they change every every scene they change characters

and like the the girl that plays Timmy Turner

from Fairly Odd parents does it Tara Strong.

Yeah. Yes. She's there. It's just it's amazing

God yeah By the time this episode of team bottomless

variety hour goes up. I will have talked to the

real animated Batman He does the narration for

the whole thing. Yeah What I find funny about

Kevin Conroy The dude has a huge history in theater

and all that stuff. But as far as voice acting

He's done Batman 21 times in the last 20 years.

And I'm not counting like each episode, you know,

BTIS, STAS episodes, JL, JLU, Batman Beyond.

He's done that one character his entire career

and that's what his entire career is. I don't

think that's wrong. You know, I don't think that's

a bad thing, but I just, I found that funny because...

Normally when I go after an interview it's for

a specific thing Well like with with our review

shows like legends of the dark night podcast

Which is Batman the animated series and Batman

Beyond in the DCA you Batman films that you have

to tailor to those shows Whereas you know a general

interview you can just get and do a general interview,

but I'm when I get the interviews. I don't like

to just focus on the main topic I like to talk

to them about You know, you know how their career

got started how they broke into the business,

you know, whatever else and we can still do that

But I mean he hasn't done much Outside of Batman

as far as voice acting. He's done all these plays

and theater stuff and all that stuff and that's

great And we'll talk to him about that, but I

just find it weird that his entire career is

Batman Well, you know what, you know, that's

not a bad thing He is the best Batman And a lot

of voice actors are like that. They're like one

-trick ponies. There's some guys that branch

out, but like Optimus Prime, he's always going

to be Optimus Prime. Nobody knows if he's ever

done anything else or cares. Well, I do. He was

Eeyore, and he was... Actually, it's funny. He

was Monterey Jack in Chippendale's Rescue Rangers.

Nice normal people that I've ever You know only

TFG when Mike would know something like that,

but it's like, you know Optimus Prime Right.

Well and and it was it was a shocker to me as

a kid watching Transformers and then going over

to Voltron and hearing That it like wait a second.

What the hell is Optimus Prime doing on Voltron?

I just had that moment cuz I picked up the the

first set of silver home the blue lion The silver

hawks, oh yeah Silverhawks at Walmart, and I

was watching it. I'm like, wait a minute. That's

Lionel. It's like you're lying. Oh, yeah, it's

the same freaking show. It's just in space. They

have my bra and moon moom or whatever the star

star that turns into the robot guy. It's the

same freaking cartoon. Yeah, I was just like,

I haven't seen it since I was a kid and I was

like, well, it's 15 bucks. I'm going to pick

it up, you know, for 30 cartoons or whatever.

Yeah, can I make it? A quick shout out announcement

here. I guess. All right. Too late now. Nobody

listens to this show. I know nobody listens to

this show. But I figured if I'm doing this, I

might as well say something for them. My friends

Rosemary and Tony are actually putting together

their own convention. They've been working on

it for a while now. And they have a date set.

They're calling it RetroCon. And it's November

11th. in oaks pennsylvania the convention center

which is just outside of king of prussia pennsylvania

it's about a half hour from my house so they

already have larry kenny lined up to be a guest

there and they're larry's trying to help them

get one or two other voice actors from the old

thundercats show cool we'll see how that goes

so yeah you know there's you know we're talking

about voice actors and there's certain voice

actors that have been around for years that still

work in the business Larry Kenny's not well,

I mean he does his commercials and he does you

know that kind of stuff But when I I've interviewed

him twice and I've asked him, you know Do you

have anything coming up that you want to you

know, tell people about or is there anything?

You know any upcoming projects and he's like

well on Sunday I'll be going to my grandson's

birthday party. You know, it's like really He

is he is constantly telling Rose how much he

likes my kids Constantly every time she talks

of because his his one his grandson. Yeah, she

looks almost identical to my oldest son And he

just he just can't get away from that connection

that they look the same and I told you guys when

I first met him My oldest son was pushing my

youngest son in a stroller and almost knocked

the guy over Yeah, it's kind of stuck in his

head Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing him

again. It's been about a year since I've seen

him So and that's that convention is actually

two days before my birthday. So I hinted at Rose

that she has to get me a cake A thundercats cake

Something I'm actually probably gonna be working

there and helping them out, you know, right right

and ticket booths or whatever we're doing, you

know Because they want pretty much people they

know. Yeah Did find their site that you linked

on Facebook and I liked it so the the cotton

that they had Thank you very much. Yeah, that's

this is the first time they're trying that so

sinking their own money into it and Seeing what

happens? Yeah, I I Don't know we all loved you

one, right? Yes, I wouldn't say love Well, maybe

until like it started getting all trippy and

whoever was writing it was on acid or whatever

but After or before - In general - Before the

movie, yes. I liked it after the movie, too.

See, I liked it after the movie, I think. And

a lot of people argue with me. I think the Season

3, Season 4 theme song is way better than Season

3's theme song. Oh, yeah, I love that theme song.

I just like that theme song, yeah. Yeah. It also

brought in better story elements into Season

3. I mean, there were some stinkers, but there

were some really - dark, more adult stories in

season three. And I do like the bringing back

the prime, you know, the ghost of prime or whatever

in Starscream. You know, that was kind of cool.

I always liked it. One thing everybody always

overlooks with season three in the five faces

of darkness, Glitzwing quits the Decepticons

and walks away. Yeah. Yeah. And nobody ever mentions

that again. Yeah. I thought that was awesome

because he says this is absurd. This is stupid.

Why are we still fighting all this time and just

walks away? And, you know, you would never get

that in season one and two. Well, right. Um,

that means why... Go ahead, Bob. I was just gonna

say it was always funny when jazz is doing the

space Olympics or whatever And all of a sudden

he just like disappears. It's like that's because

scat man are already passed away Well, yeah,

it's like they didn't really have her finish

He's like he's running the marathon and he's

in the the gay space Olympics and it's just like

he thought Wow the reason why I ask is because

There's something on Facebook That people are

trying you know a friend of mine on there Christopher

P Kent is trying to get Transformers let me see

if I can find the page I think I'm friends with

him Yeah Transformers season 5 DVD the goal is

The page serves as a request to Hasbro to get

the original surviving voice actors back would

put DVD together that picks up where generation

1 transformers left off I, well, I think that's

all well and good. I think the problem with it

is, and you know, for the most part, for the

voice actors, they'll be like, sure, we'll do

it because hey, it's, it's, and I mean, no disrespect

to voice actors, but they'll be like, sure, we'll

do it. You know, we'll, we'll get behind it because

we're going to get paid for it. The problem I

have with this is that generation one is over.

It is what it is. Hasbro is not going to go back

in time You know to redo not really redo that

but to do something like that again We still

haven't gotten animated season 3 on DVD and that

shows been over for four years now three years

now, you know at this point for me Transformers

is all about the prime cartoon. I know Bob doesn't

like the prime card. No, I do I like it. I mean,

I've watched it now. You guys have beat it over

my head enough. I like it now. No, no, no. You

need to keep an open mind. And once we had that

discussion after the electricity issues and everybody

else went off the air, it was just you and me

talking. Right. I had an open mind you know I

went back and rewatched a bunch of episodes that

I already watched before and the new ones and

I can see the point of where it's going and I

was just over analyzing it and thinking way too

much into it and I do enjoy it I mean I really

you know my kids love it of course but when you

don't over analyze it it's actually good storyline

I mean it's for my kids this is their G1 And

that was the point, because in several of the

DVD commentaries, they say, you know, hey, you

know, we will homage as much as we can, but we

also have to tell our own story. And we're hoping

that, you know, the kids that grew, you know,

the kids that are now adults that have their

own kids that grew up with the original series

and Beast Wars and Beast Machines and all that,

we're hoping that their kids, this will be their

generation one. And this will start a whole new

generation. Right. You know my son or and and

he loves the the toys because I've been collecting

the toys and stuff and we play with him together

and Trying to show him how to transform him,

but he just watches me do it That's like like

Kevin, your video that you just did with Ironhide

that's supposed to come out in the cartoons,

and you said like he had the G1 -like head, so

it almost looks like a robot. It's like bleeding

our generation with my kids, you know, the new

slime. It's like a mixture of both of them. And

once I open my eyes to it and stop judging it

so much, I can see everybody's point, and it

makes total sense. And the thing for me is like,

I get that Christopher Kent wants to get this

going, and that's all well and good. But I'm

sorry, if Hasbro doesn't want to do something,

they won't do it. If they don't want to pay attention

to stuff, they won't do it. You know what I mean?

And that's kind of sad. But at the same time,

I didn't mind. I am probably one of the only

G1 fans that actually enjoys Rebirth. I know

a lot of people hate it. I like it. I thought

it was, you know, fairly decent story. I was

upset that they ended it like that. Yeah. Well,

originally it was supposed to be a five -parter

and then Sunbeau went to David Wise and said,

hey, yeah, we essentially got cut and this now

needs to fit into a three -parter. So, you know,

as far as what the story was for Rebirth, that

wasn't really his fault because there was supposed

to be a whole bunch more stuff about Optimus

Prime's journey in that. But a lot of people

in the fandom don't like rebirth and whatever.

I don't care. I liked it. I enjoyed it The only

part of rebirth I don't like is that one scene

near the very beginning of the first part with

punch and counter punch. That is just the dumbest

scene. I'm sorry. That was the dumbest scene.

Just him coming, well, you're just going to have

to deal with my Autobot counterpart. And he just

transforms and comes back in. OK, stop. And I'm

just like. I thought that was kind of cool, though.

I honestly did. Well, I mean, I'm just looking

at going, were they really that dumb that they

couldn't see that he's the same guy? Apparently

so. The name they knew they knew who the Decepticons

name is counter punch and the other guy is punch.

Yeah I Mean, you know I well I commend Christopher

Kent for for sitting that page up and getting

people Involved with it. I sadly don't think

it's gonna happen because Hasbro is not a company

that goes back in time to redo stuff or to tell

a new story. Hell, with all the stuff that Derek

J. Wyatt talks about about animated season four,

we've all been clamoring for an animated season

four direct DVD movie. As I already said, they

haven't even released season three on DVD. They're

not gonna do a season four DVD movie to finish

out that series. uh... they're just not uh...

right now for me prime is where it's at we're

currently on a break apparently we have fifteen

episodes in a row for season two and now they're

going on i don't even know how long the breaks

gonna be i think it's mid to late july It's not

that bad. It's not it's not a huge weight, but

it's right kids. It's for kids. That's an eternity

Well, yeah, it's it's not like true blood, you

know You have to wait a year and a half before

they start making, you know, the new season cut

out I have a new episode of Doctor Who's god

knows how long now. It doesn't come until after

the Olympics Or you know when it was still airing

the Sopranos because Sopranos seasons are like

a year and a half two years apart of each other

I still don't get the ending of that show. I

swear to God I know that last shot thing was

Tony getting shot in the head. Had to have been.

It had to have been. I don't know. Did you guys

see on Facebook my custom Galvatron that I did?

I did see that. Where did you get the head at?

It's the actual it's the same head. I just added

the head crest to it. Oh, I thought it was like

actually different sculpt head no No, I repainted

it. I repainted the face And then I made the

head crest it's three separate parts But I angled

them all right and just it took me an hour to

get that head crest right well It looks perfect.

I thought it was a completely different head

sculpt because I had that Megatron. I'm looking

at it going What you know and you know, yeah,

it wasn't zoomed in on the pictures But I was

trying to like hold line up and I was like, where

do you get that head at? Yeah, you'll have to

link me to that cuz I think I missed it my original

plan was actually to put the head from the the

Classics universe Galvatron. I couldn't get the

head off of Megatron though. Oh Some reason mine

would not come off the damn ball joint Yeah,

I'm glad you didn't use that universe head cuz

that universe head sucks That entire toy sucks.

No matter how many times they repainted or put

purple translucent shit in it That Galvatron

Trent tank bullshit sucks all the hell. It's

just horrible. And that's why I wanted to replace

and I've got the The three -pack version the

repaint of him with the white colors and all

that right and that looks better It looks better,

but it's still a shoddy bait toy. Yeah Cuz I

that's that's the one I had when I had it It

was it was the first time I ever had that mold

of Galvatron and Even you know getting it out

of the package his fucking arm broke off Yeah,

immediately his left arm just popped right off

the joint and it's like fuck There you go. There's

a link. You know you beat me to it. I was looking

forward to it That looks that looks really cool

If you look closely at the picture from his back

that molded Decepticon symbol on there I actually

painted a different color purple on Purpose and

I painted the molded in eyes back there red So

so it just when you see it in person it really

stands out. Yeah Yeah, now that looks really

friggin cool That alt mode is a little weird

though. I know you were going for the you know,

the cannon thing, but I don't know that was Well,

it's just you know, the cannon just sits there

So yeah that mold that that mold is set up that

way. You can do it like that Just by moving the

arms. Yeah, so it's just how I did it You know

a lot of people like well, you got to make it

into the cannon mode Well, I'm actually gonna

do a review of this. Yeah Sometime in the next

week or so because I've just I've got my hundredth

my hundredth video is coming up on Friday. Oh

Cool. Yeah Did you like my little attempt at

my I Don't know I guess custom of ratchet WPRS

logo on them. Yeah, that was cool. I didn't see

that that was pretty funny And and it was a temporary

tattoo Yeah, that I used and I was like wolf.

It's kind of like those old model kits back in

the old days you know you'd have to put the this

pinstriping in water and and then put it onto

the plastic and I was like well if that worked

why couldn't this work and It worked perfect.

I mean for my first try ever and then I got the

pke meter from my Egon Maddie collector figure

and I put it in rachet's hand so it looks like

he's actually ghost busting I don't think ratchet

believes in ghosts though. Well, I don't know.

He's the side side tech guy You know, I was just

like, you know, why not? Oh, you know, yeah,

but he he's all science it if there's no logic

in it He doesn't like it What there's no science

in ghost hunting. What are you talking about?

No, I'm just joking Cyber guys in science. I

did on knockout Do what? You did what to knock

out I painted him up some to make him a little

little more show accurate Oh, yeah, you put the

you actually put the gold in the wheels like

he's supposed to I actually went back. Yes. Was

it yesterday yesterday? Yes, and I painted silver

around the tail lights I painted tail lights

in red and white and painted in the the pipes

in the back I don't have pictures of that yet

because this is just something I went back and

I painted in the back when window black Well,

I almost picked up that figure Is it actually

worth picking up? I mean, I mean I've seen the

videos and I've seen your reviews and I've seen

everybody else's review But you know when you

actually transform the arms the white right way

and not the actual way the instructions say Is

it actually worth it? Yes. When you get him transformed

the right way, he looks good. I mean, he's still

a little weird, but he looks good. And then with

the paint, he looks even better. I mean, he's

it's just it's something that he's one that needs

paint is basically what comes out. Paint pens

to to do it. Do you tape it off at all? Like

when you did the rims, did you tape around the

black? No, I freehand all my stuff. See, I don't

know if I had that talent to do it. I do Plus

I have little tools. I can always remove the

paint with by a go -over Yeah, that's how Galpatron

Galpatron's all freehand. I mean the gun the

dark gray on the gun and his lower legs That

wasn't paint pen. That's actually acrylic paint

that I bought at the store same thing with the

orange on the barrel and That's everything on

him is freehand. I don't Don't mask anything

off. I don't do anything. That's how I do all

my figures. It gives him a nice personal touch.

Yeah Yeah, and the dark purple on him is actually

just a purple Sharpie marker And it's soaked

into the gray plastic and gave it that it gives

it almost a metallic look when you see it person

So that's cool Mike you didn't if you didn't

see the knockout. I have pictures of him. I can

give you that link to real Yeah, just give me

the link to knock out because I didn't I didn't

see that one All right, so because we're coming

up to where Kevin probably has to leave since

it's 10 till 11 The last thing I want to bring

up and I know Bob's gonna roll his eyes and he's

gonna let go that's good I'll mute the mic. I

want to preface this first though by saying I

have never ever liked the fairy tale of Snow

White. I hate the Disney film. The Disney film

is the dumbest plot I have ever seen in animation.

The Disney film is worse than the worst Daniel

Grimlock episode of G1. And I've never really

paid attention to Snow White's other incarnations.

There are plenty of them. I actually have it

pulled up on Wikipedia just to give you guys

some examples. I think the only other one I've

ever really seen was the one that was done on

Shelley Duvall's Fairytale Theatre. I saw that

one. But the new film that just came out June

1st, 2012, Snow White and the Huntsman, uh...

starting the check from twilight which i've never

seen those movies this is the first time i've

ever seen her act i refuse to watch that sparkly

vampire bullshit is the only vampire that matters

is angel uh... and his universe so this is the

first time i've seen her anything i like the

story i like you know that it actually made sense

because my one issue with the disney version

the disney film That everybody says, oh, it's

number one just because it was first. Just because

it was the first Disney, you know, whatever.

What I didn't like about that was it never really

stated in the Disney film what the hell happened

to her father. Because it's like, oh, the evil

queen lords over Snow White and lords over the

land. It never really says what happened to her

father in that animated movie. This one shows

you that the queen kills him. So, overall I liked

Snow White and the Huntsman. It's ten times better

than Mirror Mirror. Mirror Mirror is a joke.

I don't know how Julia Roberts attached her name

to that movie, but that film is a friggin' joke.

The other thing I'll say about Snow White and

the Huntsman is that I kept expecting the Huntsman

to break out a hammer, because it's Chris Helmsworth.

So Overall, it was a good movie. I don't Bob

will never see it cuz whatever You know, but

I liked it. I enjoyed it. It was It was a fun

ride and the special effects on it were great

They just were the only the only reason I would

see it is because the the queen coming up out

of the milk bath Yeah, that those commercials.

I'm like, oh slow it down a little bit more but

you know she i i really like her as an actress

but uh... naked fox wannabe uh... sheet to me

she has no personality uh... the girl from twilight

or whatever her name is i don't even care to

know what her name is kristin stewart uh... you

know whatever but every time i see her like except

like a kid's choice award or whatever it's like

g thanks okay well yeah that's that's her personality

and i don't really know that just kind of threw

it off All right, but when I go to see films

in anything I judge for the fictional work I

don't give a shit what the person is done see

and and I'm weird that way because if I don't

like a person I won't even bother go see their

films or whatever because it's like I can't stand

looking at him. I can't stand Aflac or Damon

So I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but you know, I it's

hard hunting alone damn it It's hard for me to

give either one of them a chance, you know, cuz

I seen Daredevil and the only good thing out

of that was Electra and I Don't know. It's just

I I judge people and I know I shouldn't but it

makes me hard for them to go see their movie

That's thing about Daredevil it ended Yeah, it

was done. Well, you know a bulls -eye was in

it. I kind of like bulls -eye Yeah, bulls -eye

was cool. Yeah, I gotta give you that. The thing

about Daredevil is that It wasn't the theatrical

version wasn't the movie that they want. It wasn't

the movie that Marks Johnson wanted to make it

was what the studio wanted them to make. And

then they released the director's cut, which

adds a whole bunch of story, because it adds

the whole line with Coolio in it as the defendant,

and adds the whole line about Lisa Tazio, and

it adds a whole bunch, it adds like, I don't

know, 17, 18 minutes of additional footage, and

it tells a better, the director's cut DVD for

Daredevil tells a better story than the theatrical

version of the film. I might have to check it

out, because I've never seen the director's cut.

Yeah, the director's cut was damn good. Sometimes

that's what a movie needs. Yes, yes it does.

So I think that's going to do it for us this

week. Sadly, Transformers Prime's on a break,

so the only Saturday shows I have now is Thundercats,

which is good every other episode. Young Justice

and Green Lantern in the Anime. Well, Green Lantern

actually ended last week, so unless they're gonna

go right into Season 2 like what they did with

Young Justice, I'm not sure on that, but I'm

loving Young Justice. When is Tron? Is it gonna

be like a Saturday morning cartoon, or is it

gonna be... Nope. Friday night or some crazy

thing. We're all never gonna hate it. It premieres

June 7th, which is next Thursday On Disney XD

at night. Yes, okay I was like I hope it's not

another Saturday night cuz I miss prime because

I'm always ghost honey I'm always investigating

and I always have to leave the house of like

four or five or seven and I always freaking miss

it Let me see if I can find one the actual I

didn't know if it would be you know during a

crash Kevin if you want to go you can go ahead

and go if you want I've got a little bit of time

She doesn't leave work like right away. So all

right, and I'm actually closer to where we're

meeting than she is. Oh Okay, well the one the

other thing I wanted to kind of rant about is

Not really rant and there's nothing to do with

any kind of weird toy company or anything like

that, but Locally here in Louisville, Kentucky

the company that owns our Fox and My oh formerly

UPN affiliate Refused the deal that the local

cable company made here inside communications

slash because they just got taken over by time

Warner inside communication slash time Warner

wanted to have Fox and and the UPN Myo channel

on for the same price as what they paid before

well the company that owns those two networks

locally wanted more money so guess what happens

We the customers get screwed out of shit because

of contract negotiations and We I no longer can

watch Fox or I'm not that I watch my oh at all

So even if I wanted to watch smackdown tonight,

I wouldn't have been able to Oh, no, wait, it

is on sci -fi now. That's right. Okay. Okay.

Anyway, the point is is that You know we the

customers get screwed because this local company

wants more money from the cable company that

owns these two station affiliates so And the

problem with Fox, you know television in general

is their shows like touch You know What else

touch Simpsons finder? What you know, whatever

else is on that network American fucked all You

know all that shit on their website fox is the

only network to my knowledge online that makes

you wait eight fucking days before they put it

up where is nbc will put it up the next day or

two days later abc same thing but fox may makes

you wait a fucking week instead of being able

to go the next day online to be able to watch

it it's not like you know we live in an age now

where where pirating television or or or downloading

or torrenting For the network shows really isn't

needed because the fucking networks put their

fucking shows online for free You know what I

mean? So yeah, it just kind of irks me that I

can't watch Fox anymore until these stupid contract

negotiations are What saying that and that's

the bad thing, you know, like the TVs and like

our cable company here in Wichita. Yeah I don't

know if it's them or if it's nationwide, but

the hub network When prime airs it takes them

almost five six days to get it up on in -demand

Because that's how I have to catch it and I'm

like and some some things are you know different

channels or the next day or day of You know an

hour later it airs. It's on in -demand Meanwhile

meanwhile people have it up on YouTube within

an hour Yeah, but I hate watching YouTube because

you know I kind of believe in Paul if you don't

support it when it actually airs Take it off,

you know that that whole thing. I Mean, I I'm

not saying I've never done that about get glue

is that even if you can't watch it You can still

check into something with get glue and you can

still support it at its time slot So even though

you're not actually watching the damn thing,

you're still showing your support. Yeah, I kind

of wondered how many actually You know networks

and stuff. They actually judged that they go.

I honestly don't because the networks go by You

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the networks the networks do not go the networks

are so in the The dinosaur age of Of ratings

they don't go by and in the DVR reading or anything

like that I think that's gonna do it for this

week Bob mysteriously disappeared because we

had Skype issues during this podcast recording

But I'm sure you'll have a full recap of Saturday

and Sunday next week on yeah. Oh Let's hope the

sweat doesn't kill you I'm actually gonna take

one of my my kids backpacks. It's Optimus Prime

backpack I'm gonna put like my extra clothes

and some water and stuff like that in it so I

don't get dehydrated Cool. Cool. All right. Well,

that's it for this week's TV VH This was episode

21 and we will see you next week. Bye. This is

Kevin Conway, and I am the goddamn Batman

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