TeamBotimus Variety Hour
Interview with Larry Kenney on Thundercats

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Beyond good, beyond evil, beyond your wildest
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Welcome to the interview that will be featured
on the Team Bottomless Variety Hour podcast and
Tooncast Beyond. I am one of your hosts, Steve
John Mike, and joining me is Opta Bottomless.
Hello, sir. Hello. And returning to the Geekcast
Radio Network is the one, the only Lord of the
Thundercats, Larry Kenny. Hi, Larry. How are
you? Hi, guys. How you doing? Hey, I thought
you were never going to call me again. I'm glad
you did. Wait, before we get going here. of the
bottom of where i know that name from seems to
me i just recently did a a voice uh... clip for
for up to block you you know i really did you
got married in there i did i did and a good friend
of mine kevin actually uh... yeah i i don't know
how well he knows your what he he mentioned that
he has some contact with you and he was very
worried rosemary knows all the voice actors was
really worried yeah yeah kevin and i went to
different high schools together oh wow at different
times Awesome, awesome. He's like, I can't do
much for you for your wedding, but we actually
got married on the 11th. And he's like, but I
got something that I'm gonna try and do for you.
He's like, there's no promises, but let me see
what I can do. And then he sent it to me and
I was just absolutely floored. And right after
that, I sent you a message thanking you. So to
be able to thank you personally is a great honor.
And it's hilarious because Mike here for a birthday
present scheduled, because my birthday was yesterday
of all days. And as a birthday present, he involved
me in this interview itself. So I'm just getting
totally googly -eyed over here. It's wonderful.
When Paul's friend Kevin had gotten that from
Rosemary, I was like, well... I've been meaning
to email Larry. So I was like, I'm not going
to be upstage. So here, we would love to talk
to you about the new Thundercats series. What
date is easy? What date's best date for you?
And it just so happens to turn out that it's
the day after Paul's birthday. That's fantastic.
And now here we are all together. How about that?
Small world, isn't it? Yes, it is. Very small.
I'd sure hate Lake Hilton half to paint it, I'll
tell you that. So what do you guys think of the
new series? Is that my answer? Maybe I shouldn't
have asked that question. Paul, what do you think
of the new series? Being brutally honest, I'm
not a very big fan of the animation style. Goodbye.
Yeah, the anime look, I've never been a big fan
of that in terms of cartoons or anything just
in general, but the storylines and everything
that's going along with it, I'm absolutely enthralled
with it and it's easy for me to overlook the
animation that I don't like because I'm so entertained
by the story that's going along. I'll buy that.
There, see? Did I save myself with that one?
I don't know, I wasn't really listening. Well,
listen, everybody likes, not everybody likes
everything and not everybody likes everything
about a particular thing, you know. I mean, there
were people who didn't care for certain aspects
of the original series. So, you know, that's
what makes the world go round, you know, different
strokes for different folks. I really, I don't
like, I don't know what it is. I've seen plenty
of animes that have come over from Japan and
all that stuff. I've seen the anime style. I
just think this style that they're using on the
Thundercats 2011 series is... the the western
style now or whatever i mean that's that's just
the way it is it it it's one of those styles
yes i know they send it over to japan or to wherever
just know certain studios over there overseas
to animate it but there's a huge difference between
what they're doing in in thundercats twenty eleven
versus what they didn't like ghost in the shell
or yeah you know whatever else uh... the voice
cast is great i'm sorry to interrupt you guys
are much more familiar with other shows and series
and styles of animation and animate than I am,
so I can't really compare it to anything else.
I like it, I like the new style, but again, I
don't know what other things look like. How did
you become involved with the new series? Did
you just go in and audition or did the producers
say, hey, we want the original Lionel? The second
one. The folks who were involved with it, first
of all, everybody who's on the Warner Brothers
crew, from the writers to the illustrators to
the directors, even Sam Register, who's the president
of Warner Brothers Animation International, Universal
or whatever. We're huge, our huge Thundercats
fans, huge fans of the first series. And so they
called my agent and asked to talk about me being
in the new show. I didn't even know there was
a new series until I got a call from my agent
saying, there is a new series, Warner Brothers
is beginning a new series and they'd like you
to be in it. So that was the first thing that
I had heard. And in the ensuing time, I've been
to two or three Comic -Cons with some of the
folks. We've done panels in San Diego and San
Francisco and different places with some of the
writers. And every Comic -Con, when they're asked,
they tell the audience that I just told you that
they were huge fans of the series. And from the
very beginning of the project, their goal was
to bring the spirit of the original series, the
original characters, the original story to maintain
that and just give it a new look and a kind of
updated style and bring it into the 21st century.
And I think they've done a great job with that.
Yeah, they have. I completely agree. It's one
of those things where Mike and I had talked about
this previously that it's different enough. It's
a different enough Storyline from the original
series that it's for all of us old fans of the
old series We're able to watch this and it's
just not a rehash of the old stuff. It's something
completely different and new I mean we were talking
about some of the differences that I mean, I
think I jokingly said that It's weird how Lionel
and tiger in this are kind of like stepbrothers
Whereas in the original series they weren't and
And all these different new elements that they're
throwing into the new series that it's like oh
wow and we were talking about this before we
got you on here just today that Chitara has a
decision about who she apparently is wanting
to be romantic with and That was that was throwing
me for a loop when I first saw him like wait
a minute That's not right. That's not the way
it's supposed to be Alright, Larry, let me paint
you guys a picture here. Uh -oh. Would you rather
have fully animalized naked Chitara from the
old series or would you rather have the new series
one just trying to, you know, make a pass at
you? I mean, both series have always portrayed
Chitara as kind of a sex pot. I hate to say that,
but... Well, as I said at the San Diego Comic
Con at the panel that... As far as I'm concerned,
Chitara was the original Thundercats hoe. So
I'm not surprised at all by the way she's catting
around, you know. And of course, you know who
the new Chitara is. It's Emanuel Chiriki, who's
a lovely young woman and one of the panels I
think. Well, in fact, it was in San Diego where
They showed, for the first time, showed the first
episode to the audience and the panel. They showed
that before we walked out on stage. And of course,
we were all backstage just with our fingers crossed
and wondering, are we going to get bottles tossed
out when we walk out there? Because nobody had
seen outside of the studio had seen anything
about the new series. And that audience was totally
packed with people coming on Art and Cesar who
are diehard fans they waited a lot for hours
and hours to get those tickets you know yeah
and um when we were backstage listening to the
cheer and the roars that went up we could tell
they were they were lolling it but uh i forget
who didn't know we had we had a rear entrance
all staked out to get out of that building if
we had just in case yeah just in case nice that's
hilarious now Wait Here's I'm kind of random
when it comes to stuff. So I'm going off of Mike
here and he's gonna hate me for this but wait
when they came to you and They wanted you to
do plot us and as why you know his father Did
you? How did that make you feel? I mean, where
did you want to be a larger role in the series
or were you happy? Which is that smaller little
bit? Well, first of all, let me just say that
from the very first time I got that email from
my agent, I called Robin Stetcher back. Robin
Stetcher is one of the top agents that Don Buchwald
and associates him. I've been with him for, oh
gosh, 40 years. She was an agent back while we
were recording the original Thundercats. I think
she was an agent's assistant. But she used to
come to the recording sessions all the time.
She loved watching us do that show. And now she
is, as I said, pretty much running the office
at Don Bookwell and Associates. And so she's
the one who emailed me. She's the one that they
contacted and emailed me. And she said, call
me. And I called her. She was as excited as I
was that there was a new series. But she said,
I think I know how you feel about it. But tell
me about doing it. But tell me. And I said, well,
the first thing you're going to have to do is
get a copy of the script. for any scripts that
they have that they want me to be involved in.
And we went to synopsis, or maybe I could talk
to them. I just wanna see what they're gonna
do with the show. I said, because, you know,
for 30 years now almost, I've had people writing
me about how much Thundercats meant to them,
as all of us in the cast and crew have, get an
email. We talked to people on the street and
at Comic -Cons and things on Facebook who love
the original Thundercats. And not just as a show
they like to watch when they were kids, people
have written me that, we may have talked about
this last time, how much it meant to them growing
up, you know. And I know that Thundercats, maybe
more than other shows of that genre, I don't
know. But I don't care about the other shows.
I know that Thundercats, in this regard, I didn't
mean that. But I'm very protective of what anybody
does with Thundercats, or certainly what I do
with any new Thundercats project, from the fan's
point of view. Warner Brothers owns the rights.
They can do anything they want with it. Nobody
could have stopped them from making the biggest,
craziest, dumbest show in the world that everybody
hated. They own it now. They bought it. I found
out from reading the scripts and everything and
talking to them that they were going to make
the kind of show that I knew the fans would like
and be happy about. So I said, OK, I'll do it.
And it turned out to be great, I think. But your
question actually was, would I rather have had
a bigger role? Of course, that would have been
nice. But I understand, even from the very beginning,
first of all, I think it was a tremendous, wonderful
homage to the And it got a nod to the fans of
the original show. Oh, I agree entirely. I got
goosebumps when I first heard you. Because up
until this, I try to stay spoiler -free when
it comes to things like this. And like I said,
I just turned 33, so I grew up with Thundercats.
And I knew they were making a new series. I tried
not to get any information because I didn't want
to get my hopes up because I'm like, after this
long, come on, I mean, it's not gonna be that
good. That was my first initial take. I mean,
I'm like, cartoons nowadays suck. So as soon
as I saw it, and as soon as you came in, and
I heard the voice of Klaunas, I'm like, oh, I
seriously got goosebumps. I seriously got goosebumps.
And it was absolutely amazing. It was at that
point I could pinpoint it and it was that point
when the animation that I didn't like initially
just completely went away and I was What was
being said and the story that was told and oh,
that's great Well, I think it was a very clever
way for them to do it. First of all, like I said
I think it was a very a very Noble thing that
they did and a good idea To have me, you know
or anybody from the you know Could have been
one of the other people from the original cast
or all this or whatever I think that was maybe
their way of saying to the fans, and partly,
you know, it's going to be the old show that
you liked, you know. But I think mostly because,
like I said, all these guys and women who are
working on the, who are producing the show, are
tremendous fans of Thundercats, and they wanted
to make the show, you know. And what a convenient
and serendipitous way to do it, have me play
Lionel's father. I'm older now, my voice is a
little older now, and it fits perfectly, you
know. So people have asked me, in fact, I don't
know if you remember, but when there was talk
of Warner Brothers doing a movie, well, Warner
Brothers had actually announced they were going
to do a ThunderCats movie a few years ago. They
had hired a director and a script writer and
everything, and then I still thought that's what
was going to happen until I got this call from
my agent. There were petitions online, Thundercats
websites, petitioning Warner Brothers to make
me be Lionel again in the movie. But as I've
said to people, first of all, they wanted to
make a new Thundercats, a new series. They wanted
to be a new Thundercats, okay. They kept the
spirit and everything of the original. But what
would be the point of having it sound exactly
the same with the same actors? We're not all
still alive, for one thing. And as you mentioned,
one of you guys, you weren't too crazy about
the new animation. What would be the point of
animating it the same way? You know what I'm
saying? What would be the point of spending a
lot of money on the same show? Right. You already
did it. Yeah. It's been done once. I remember
there's a great quote one time from Liza Minnelli.
Of course her mother was Judy Garland. And Liza
Minnelli was doing a concert at the Radio City
Music Hall. And as the applause died down after
one of her songs, somebody in the balcony yelled
aloud, sing over the rainbow. And the crowd went
nuts and cheered, and she had to wait for it
to die down. And she just said very simply in
the microphone, it's been sung. In other words,
what would be the point? There's a big difference,
though, between getting the entire original cast
doing the same original animation versus this
new style and bringing yourself or Peter Newman
or even Earl Hyman In as guest roles. I mean,
yeah, sure, you know You're gonna have you know
this new direction as as as Paul said is an entirely
new direction entirely new story You were only
in what the first seven episodes I think first
three actually I died in the third one. Yeah,
but then I but then I came back And by the way,
just a month or so ago, they called me back out
to Warner Brothers Ranch in Burbank. And I do
a, I hope it's okay for me to tell them. They
don't listen to this anyhow. Well, they're already
getting ready for a DVD. And so they had me do
this. They had me come out there for this little
short. It's about I think three minutes long.
It's going to be a part of the DVD package, whenever
that comes out. And it's a little cartoon, if
you will. You know, like in the movies, there'd
be a cartoon with the movies. Right. And it's
just Claudus, Snarf, and Lionel as a baby. He's
in a diaper. Oh, sweet. It's kind of a flashback
to when Lionel was a baby. And I can't give you
any of the details, except that it... What it
kind of does is explain the genesis of how Snarf
became Lionel's watcher and protector and everything.
It's very cute. It's very funny. Now what do
you think about the differences between the old
Snarf, Bob McFadden voiced, and the new Snarf
being more of a pet? You know, there's always
a running joke when you go to Comic -Cons or
anytime you're talking to ThunderCats fans in
a group. There are people who found Snarf annoying
and hated Snarf. And there are people who just
thought he was the cutest thing in the world.
So I guess they're trying to bridge the gap by
keeping Snarf in the show, but not letting him
talk. When I first saw it, I was like, oh, they
took, because again, I'm an original watcher.
I'm an original show fan and I watched it and
I appreciate what they did differently with it
in the new series, but I'm watching it. I'm like,
they basically took Snarp, which was always kind
of Lionel in the original series. It was his
protector. It was his guardian. always was going
around with him. It was, I don't want to say
it was his best friend, but he was always there.
And now they relegated him to a pet. And I was
just like, that's, that's, it was weird for me.
But I was one of those kinds of people that I
was annoyed. I mean, okay, that's over and done
with. Get rid of that. And it was, it was an
annoyance for me. But now he's, he's like super
cute. And there's girl fans out there that just
get goo -goo over whenever Snarf makes an appearance
in one of these new episodes. It's funny to watch
because they just want to pinch his cheeks. He's
so gosh darn cute. Well, there you go. That's
another difference. And I mean, honestly, who
in today's age could have given the nursemaid
role what Bob McFadden did with it. I mean, I
honestly don't think, out of all the voice actors
I know about, out of everybody that is up and
coming, I don't think anybody could have really
embodied, even a newer version of the nursemaid
role, could have done what Bob did. Bob was the
best. And maybe that's why they made the change.
Maybe when it came time to say, okay, who's going
to play Snark? I just said, you know what? We
can't do it. Who are we going to find is going
to be as good as that? So maybe they just said,
let's change and make him not talk. Who knows?
I don't know. Listen, I get asked a lot of questions
like this at different places, and I'm not trying
to be evasive, but it's true that we're actors,
those of us who can't speak, we're actors, and
we read the lines they write, and they direct
us on how to read them and all that kind of stuff.
Basically, that's our job, you know, we don't
write the stuff we don't and there's very little
time when you're recording these things very
little time for discussion about Why did you
have him do this? And is he ever gonna do you
just it's time to work, you know, we got it done
get it out and So I don't know it much more than
anybody else does as to why they did this why
they did that How long ago did you do the DVD
special feature recording? Oh, it was just maybe
about six weeks ago, something like that. Yeah,
about six weeks ago. Okay, because TV shows on
DVD .com lists season one, book one, coming out,
it was released October 18th. That's obviously
couldn't be this one. Wait a minute, I did it
six weeks ago, about October 18th, wasn't it?
Yeah. So are you saying it's out already? I'm
seeing a news story here on a website called
TV Shows on DVD basically saying that there's
a package art and a trailer. It basically says
Season 1 Book 1. It is the first... Season 1
Book 1, October 18th. The two -disc package will
cost $19 .97 and contain the first eight episodes.
Well, there you go. Second week of October. Maybe
the first week. I don't recall wait a minute
You know what it was September. It was September.
Ah Well, there you go. Ladies and gentlemen the
Season one book one eight episode DVD of Thundercats
2011 Has a special feature with with Larry. There
we go. Awesome. You guys figured that out. You
guys are good Yeah, see that? See what I was
just saying? I was just saying I don't know much,
anything more than you guys do, and there you
go, you proved it. You knew more than I did.
Well, you know, if I had a Sword of Omens here,
I could have used my sight beyond sight, but
I don't have a Sword of Omens, so... You know
what? Frankly, it wouldn't do you any good. See,
now you're... Come on now, you know better than
that, because you know that Sword of Omens only
works for the person who owns it, who it belongs
to, and that's why I know. Well, you can wave
it around all you want. Toys R Us would argue
with a Lion Oak. I threw $20 down. I have my
own sort of omens right here hanging on my wall.
Yeah, good luck trying to make it give you sight
beyond sight. Yeah, I can't see too much. I got
about five more minutes. Okay. So, are there
any more flashbacks coming up in like maybe next
season? Do you know if they're going to call
you back to do any more flashbacks with Claudus?
I honestly don't know. I mean, they... How can
I explain this? I'm sorry to keep answering your
questions with the same answer. Well, at the
Comic -Cons, they say this, but that's how I
get my information. Right, right. When the fans
in the audience ask questions of the writers
and the directors and things like that, and I
listen to it, and then I remember, that's how
I get my information, because other than that,
maybe except for having a beer after the panel
with these guys, I don't have discussions with
them, you know. But it has been asked, will Claudus
be back in future episodes? And Dan, one of the
writers said, with a kind of wink, he said, well,
I can't tell you for sure, of course, but he
smiled at the camera and said, keep watching.
It's possible. I think the final question for
this little interview that we're doing with you
will be, tell us about what it's like working
with the new cast as far as... I can't. I have
not done that. Oh, you didn't work? It was an
ensemble? Nope. And I was so disappointed because
from the very first time they flew me out to
Burbank at Warner Brothers Ranch and a lovely
little boutique hotel right across the street.
And I was so excited. I even had gone online
and looked up the names. found out some things
about them so I'd be able to act like I had known
them. I walk into the studio and I figure, well,
I'm the first one here because I see the studio
with a six microphone arranged the same way we
used to have them arranged when we recorded it,
in a kind of a sunny circle. The copy stands
were there. And I'm chatting with the couple
of... the engineer and a couple of the lighters
and for the longest time and then finally when
I'm says well maybe we should get started and
go on in and I said oh I thought we're gonna
wait for everybody else and he said no they're
they're not working today. The three times that
I went to LA I walked in and stood in an empty
studio, a huge studio with six microphones and
I was all by myself. I was very disappointed.
But I did meet, I have the sentiment, Emmanuel
Tricky, who's the new Chichara, and Matthew,
who's the tiger. I have not met Will Friedle,
although we've emailed back and forth, and we
plan to meet the next time I go out there. But
yeah, I was hoping to be able to work with the
rest of the cast, but it didn't happen. Maybe
in the future. Yeah, there's one episode I think
it's the episode where panthro comes back or
it's like like within the story Supposedly panther
had died and he's not actually dead. Well, you
know, it's it's one of those twisters and he
comes back in the next episode He's sitting there
fixing the thunder tank. Yeah And they threw
in the outtake. It was like, oh, blasted semiflange
broke again. The audience went crazy at that.
I know. So they said, that darn semiflange. And
I'm laughing like crazy when I was back there.
Well, there's a lot of little things they've
thrown in like that, if you notice. People were
even saying, did I see a robber burble just for
a second? And they said, yeah. You saw a quick
shot of a robber burble. And somebody even said,
I could swear I saw one of the silver hawks in
there. Yeah. Yeah. And they said, yeah. So the
person said, does that mean? And now I'm hearing
that there's all this discussion about it. All
the buzz from the silver hawk show. Does that
mean that the silver hawks will someday meet
beyond the Thundercats? And again, they just
said, well, you have to keep watching to see.
Yeah, yeah. That's driving down this. It is animation
after all, so anything is possible. Yeah, that's
that's one of those that's one of those little
teaser things that's been driving me nuts ever
since it was There was a scene where they showed
Oh Mon star Mon star that's where the reference
was and it was spot -on to how it looked in the
original Silverhawks and I think I think that's
neither way of doing that, you know, because
part of it is like, you know the semi -flinch
thing that obviously was another little mod because
they they know that that's become famous on the
outtakes on the internet, and everybody knows
about the samophones thing. So for them to put
that in there is kind of, to me it's saying to
the audience, here you go, that's for you. All
right Larry, before we let you go, do you have
anything coming up that you'd like to promote
or anything that we can look forward to? As a
matter of fact, next Saturday at 2 p .m. Here
in my home, we're having my grandson Bonham's
third birthday party. I just wanted to mention
that. Oh, did you mean professionally? Yes. Unless
you're inviting us all to his birthday party.
Come on, there's going to be enough kids as it
is. I'm there. Not really. I'm still doing commercials.
I've got a new one that's been on for a few weeks
for Dawn Detergent. where after almost 50 years
in the business, I'm playing a sponge. You might
watch for it. He's a doctor. A sponge is a doctor.
And he's saying to this woman sponge, something
like, I don't know, you've got a lot of grease
build up there. You're going to have to use New
Dawn. That'll take care of it. I've seen it,
actually. It's hilarious. Yeah, that's me doing
the... My third sponge on the left. So that's
my career now. That's what it's come down to.
I'm playing Dr. Sponges. Well, and birthday parties.
Birthday parties, yeah. We would like to thank
Mr. Kenney for taking the time to chat with us
in this special TBVH and Tooncast Beyond interview.
We'll ask you to hold the line and we'll be back
after this. Let me show you what it's capable
of in the proper hands. Uh -oh! Catch! The book
told that it was the Thundercats, our ancestors,
who first defeated Mamla! It was the Thundercats
who brought law and order to a world of warring
animals! And it is now the Thundercats who are
strong enough to maintain this fragile peace.
Concentrate! There you go. 33 years and you finally
get to talk to Larry Kenny. Happy birthday, dude.
is one of them, and it's an absolute honor. I
cannot thank you, Mike, for doing this, and I
can't thank him enough for also doing it. It
just absolutely blew me away. Yeah, he's a really,
really awesome guy. It's nice to talk to him
again. As I said in the very beginning of the
interview, this will be featured both on the
Team Bottomless Variety Hour RSS for the podcast,
and it'll also be on Tunecast Beyond as well.
I might actually, I might actually listen to
my own podcast this time around. That's terrible.
So funny. Anyways, all right. So we are the goddamn
Optobotamus and I am TFG1Mike. And that's it.
There you have it. Larry Canning, ladies and
gentlemen, guy that needs no introduction. So
we will catch you next time.
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