Knight Rider 2008 Series Premiere Review

So, what do you say? Meet me here tonight. We'll

talk about it. Is getting in Johnny's good graces

part of your strategy for ascending their hierarchy,

Michael? You're learning, kid. I gotta earn Johnny's

trust if I want to race for him. He's the big

dog. My program has never delineated the difference

between a big dog and an alpha male. That's because

the computer programmers do the alpha male's

homework. I hope you're not buying this macho

crap kit. What do you want him to do? Go to a

meditation class and get in touch with his inner

Prius? He's gotta learn how to be a guy. What

makes you think I'm a man? Or a woman, Michael?

Okay, never do that again. I was merely pointing

out that other than for reproduction, one's sex

is purely arbitrary. You've got a lot to learn.

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going on? We're back yet again. It's back yet

again. Oh, boy. So we are at the premiere, the

pilot episode, or not pilot, but the first episode

after the pilot film for Knight Rider 2008. And

we're going to be discussing the first three

episodes of the series. I'm going to tell you

people right now, there's not going to be a lot

of gushing, but there's not going to be a lot

of what we saw in Team Knight Rider. Every episode

I've watched at this point for the 08 series

makes complete sense to me. Especially after

what we'll get to in episode 45. They wrote this

so well. Yes, there are... They did a better

job with this series. Oh, yeah, they did a better

job with this series. So much better I have I

have to tip my head off. I can't think of the

gentleman's name. I think it's something Scott

or Scott Gary Scott Gary Scott Thompson I got

to get tip my hat off to him and then is Glenn

in this or did they just consult him? He's listed

as creator of Knight Rider. He's listed as executive

producer. So, okay that executive producer role

could be anything it could be consulting it could

be who knows right um but I do know that the

crew that was on this wanted it to be as faithful

as it could be to the original at the same time

being its own thing which they did a very good

job of doing oh yeah very much so very much so

all right we are going to get into the first

episode after this Excuse me for a moment. Hurry

back. I have the package in sight. Sarah? Sarah?

Sarah, can you hear me? Where's my tracer? We

can do this the easy way, or the very, very hard

way. Kit. Yes, Michael? Sarah's not responding.

My senses have picked up Sarah. She is in the

vault room. You are not in the vault room with

her. Yeah, I got hung up. Michael, you have less

than two minutes to make contact, acquire the

package, and retrieve the files. Not a problem.

A little upset by your treatment of this guest.

Sarah has been joined by four men, and they are

armed. Guys, what are we doing? Come on, really?

Okay, get me to Sarah now. Take the staircase

on your left for the fastest route to Sarah.

Keep your eyes peeled, kid. Michael, I do not

have eyes. It's a figure of speech. Which for?

Basement level. Michael, security has discovered

the loop I have programmed into their surveillance

system. They are moments away from detecting

the source of my tap. I am moving as fast as

I can. Probably move faster if you ate a healthy

diet, decreased your alcohol intake, and reduced

the extracurricular activity with your lady friends.

I might as well be dead. Your death will not

help Sarah in her current situation. Where's

the package? I lost contact with the package.

It appears to have vanished. I have detected

a co -op to the consulate's security system.

It appears the men with Sarah may have plans

similar to ours. Do we know who they are? Negative,

Michael. Do they have the package? It does not

appear so. The weapons indicate they are not

consulate guards. They don't have the package

and they're after the files. Michael, Sarah has

the files. I know. That means they have Sarah.

You have a very high opinion of Mike Tracer if

you're willing to risk the amount of pain I'm

about to inflict upon you. He would do the same

for me. You have no idea who he is, do you? Michael,

Sarah's heart rate and respiration have suddenly

increased. They are rising rapidly. Last chance.

Where's Mike Tracer? Michael, you have turned

the wrong way. Right, not left. You said left.

No, Michael. I said left. Left, right, left,

right, left. Dude, you're confusing me. Please,

remain calm. I am calm. My surveillance tap has

been detected. Security knows we're here. There

are consulate guards moving in on you from every

direction. And two armed men outside the vault

room. Well, hey, kid. There you are. Fine. I'm

being detained. Hey, we'll get undetained. Hey,

guys. Do you know where the bathroom is? Because

I gotta pee. Please step away from the car, or

I will be forced to take defensive measures.

Dude, the car's talking to us. Big deal. My car

talks to me. It's called GPS. Yes, but can your

car do this? Check the door. So you still have

your reflexes, Tracer. Who the hell are you?

You're gonna die. Kit, where are you? But...

I'm almost at my location, Sarah, but I have

attracted some attention. I suggest you and Michael

get to the rendezvous point as quickly as possible.

Mike! The guy with the syringe is asking for

Mike Tracer! They weren't after the files? Prepare

for transformation. Transformation complete.

Occupant restraint system active. Were you able

to identify the men in the vault room? I was

not, Sarah. Whoever they were, they were very

good at getting in and getting out without being

seen. What about the package? My sensors are

unable to penetrate to that depth, but the only

way out undetected is through one of the underground

passageways beneath the consulate. You lost the

package? Lost is such a harsh word. Michael,

Sarah, we have a problem. What kind of problem?

That kind of problem. Impact in 30 seconds. Deploy

flares. 29. Kid, stop the countdown and deploy

the damn flares. Michael, deploying flares. Kid,

deploy the flares! Deploying flares. Flares are

ineffective, Michael. As I was trying to tell

you, I cooled my heat signature to ambient air

temperature. The missile is not homing in on

me, Michael. It is homing in on you. What do

you want me to do? Get out? That would be a fatal

error, Michael. My sensors indicate something

unusual about this warhead. I may not be programmed

to respond correctly. What does he mean, respond

correctly? Please remain calm. I have relayed

our situation to Dr. Greiman. I am certain he

is working on a solution as we speak. Emergency.

Missile is locked on target. There is no solution.

Missile impact in 20 seconds. 19, 18, 17, 16,

15, 14... This just got interesting. 13, 12,

11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Alright, first

up is a Knight in Shining Armor. Hmm. Airdate,

September 24th, 2008. However, as soon as I saw

the episode title, I'm like, hey, wait a minute.

They already had that 25 years earlier a knight

in shining armor January 8 1984 Knight writer

season 2 Off -air I said, what was that season

3 you're like, no it was season 2 It says right

here on IMDB when I was looking at it wasn't

even looking at an off -air season 2 episode

13 But yes the 2008 first episode of the actual

series of Knight Rider is Entitled a knight in

shining armor just like its predecessor Michael

goes after a woman from his past who abducts

a man whose DNA contains a key to an unbreakable

code I Love how they're playing this whole thing

up with this plot there there I know we talked

last time about how Prometheus is kind of like

Night of the Phoenix. Sure. If you take Prometheus

and this, you have Night of the Phoenix Part

1 and Part 2. Now I know Prometheus... Yes? Listen.

Listen. I know Prometheus was longer. I think

it was, without commercials, 50 minutes. It seemed

like it was longer at the time. it seemed like

a full -length television movie it wasn't i don't

think it was too out wasn't it wasn't a two -hour

movie i don't even remember i don't remember

at this point i'm actually going to look at it

it is one hour 19 minutes so it's wasn't even

two hours yeah almost two hours but it felt like

a two -hour film a two -hour television film

okay so what i mean by that prometheus was part

one and this was a night of shining armor was

part two The difference in twists with Mike's

identity. They didn't do anything with it once

he joined up in Prometheus They started here

and they have Carrie Killen. I Have a little

bit of a discrepancy with that. Oh Hell yes,

I do. Oh boy. Yes, I do Yes, the reason I say

that is because all right, obviously we've talked

about in the original series We've talked about

not to the Phoenix Michael Long was a police

officer. He was shot and left for dead Why would

you have you fast forward 25 years later? Why

would you have a police or no an FBI agent? Shoot

him in the face and Say, okay, you're now Michael

Knight Why would you do that? They were putting

a spin on it. Okay. First of all, here's the

thing. Tracer was an army range. You know, he

was right. He was in the military special forces

military. So technically while it's not really

police, you could consider it a police actionable

type of thing. Right. Second of all, she was

treating him like a suspect she was the whole

point of this whole thing is for them not to

know for the bad guys not to know who he really

is and what you know and who he's with that's

the whole point but some of them knew who he

was he just didn't have a memory of it of it

at all right but we'll get the memories will

come back eventually but here's the thing you

have tanya shooting Michael senior, right? Okay,

so you got Tanya shooting him and then in this

you have Carrie shooting Mike tracer because

that identity because they needed to get rid

of that identity for him because people kept

looking for him right so for me In that scene

in the subway. She was treating him like a criminal

She wasn't because of how many witnesses were

around there a lot There were a lot of people

in that team. So she had to treat it as a suspected

criminal, not, hey buddy, hey CIA buddy, you

know. So I take no issue with it because it reminds

me so much of... It's not so much an issue as

it was confusion for me. Because I was like,

okay, again, I understood what they were doing

in the classic. That's not what started out.

But when they got to 2008, I was like, okay,

why are they having one of their own shoot him

and basically knock off my tracer? Because he

does take the Michael Knight role, yes. But it

was confusing for me because I'm like, okay,

you're going to have one of your own do that?

But what you're saying is they were treating

him like a suspect. So they had to get rid of

his identity so that nobody could trace him down.

exactly so yeah that makes sense now okay all

right other parts of this is you have this which

I've seen her in other stuff and who's this the

the chick the one that's like Carrie no the the

chick that knew Mike Sarah no the chick or the

other lady The chick he was okay. Okay, that

wanted the package. Yeah The chick that threw

the guy out of the car. Yeah You know cut his

thumb off through him out of the car. Oh, yeah

Yeah Okay, let me see here knight in shining

armor, I know I've seen her other places is my

point in all of this Uh, so...yeah. Paula Garces.

Played Kelly Hadigan. Her name does not ring

a bell, but that doesn't mean anything. Paula

Garces. She's been in... She was in both Harold

and Kumar movies. She was in Station Agent. She's

currently on Devious Maids, on Lifetime. She

was in All My Children. Ha! Hello, soap opera.

Yes. She was in Breakout Kings. Remember her

from she's in warehouse 13. I what do I remember

her from? She was in the shield as officer Tina

Tina Hanlon the Michael Chikla series and there

was something else I Was it clock stoppers, maybe

Yep clock stoppers. That's right. Who did she

play as and clock stoppers? She was very young

the clock stoppers the movie. Yeah She was france

francesca. Oh Yeah, yeah Wow Who knew she'd be

in a Knight Rider episode? But yeah, no, as soon

as I saw her, I recognized her from the shield

when I originally watched this. And it was like,

oh wow, she's grown up. Very much so. But yeah,

I liked her. I liked the acting and all that

stuff. The plot is very well thought out. We

don't really get to see what the whole point

of the dude is we know it's got some sort of

unbreakable code So I will you know say anything

like that about the plot But the setup was great

Seeing that first scene at the consulate. Oh

my god The attack mode. Oh, yeah It, uh, I'm

sorry, I will forever love S - I will forever

love Super Pursuit, but I'm sorry, Attack Mode

- SPM! I don't know, SPM though, you gotta give

SPM its props for its time. I know! And it's

time, yes, but I'm sorry - Attack Mode is - Attack

Mode is great. Attack Mode is the best thing

ever! Oh my god, I love that! And the turbo boost,

instead of just pressing a button - the car itself

activates it and it's it's doing a Fast and the

Furious type of move where it takes you through

the engine with all the sound effects and oh

god oh yeah but the only problem is they barely

use it they use it here once and then so far

because we will have watched and recorded other

podcasts in the future right but by the time

this airs So far, we're like nine episodes into

the series as I'm watching them so far, and it's

like, holy crap, where's Turbo Boost? Between

episode one and episode nine, episode seven I

believe, or episode six, I believe that they've

used it once, and this is it. I like the transformations,

I think they're cool, I think they're great,

I think they're a great way to... Update kit,

but come on turbo boost is just classic. I kind

of miss the touch tone noises though I mean granted.

I know that was a thing of the past You know

they had to get the buttons to make noise and

the lights to light up and stuff like that But

I just kind of missed that classic touch Yeah,

yeah All right, let's go to the skaters after

this Deep breaths. Kit, are you okay? I'm fine,

Sarah. Are you okay? I was worried about you

and Michael. You were worried about us? Yes.

You're a computer kit. You can't worry. Artificial

intelligence, Michael. There is a difference.

I have run it through my database several times

and I believe worry is the appropriate word.

Hey, some clothes here. All right, turning the

scanners on. That was just a really, really great

opening scene. That was so awesome the really

and it had you know a James Bond fantasy type

of feel to it the new kit looks leaner and stronger

For this for this series he actually does Yeah,

like we've said before you know when we were

talking about the pilot Prometheus they do keep

the classic scanner look Yeah, they did that

and I thought that was great, but he looks you

know kit looks great in this The effects For

what they do with him are just totally out there

They are I will say between Prometheus in this

first episode. I do miss the nanotech bullet

deflection Cuz it's it's there that didn't he

he did in Prometheus Remember when they were

shooting and yeah in the I'm on on the college

campus right in the in the bullets the nanomites

just basically deflected the bullets and they

get kind of Fragment they didn't even damage

him the nanomites were doing more than what they're

doing here And I get it you have to change and

upgrade and update your software and everything

else. I just missed the effect I thought in the

film the effect was really really cool, right?

I do really enjoy all the intrigue and mystery

around Mike's past, and they really do a good

job of setting up saying, hey, he has a past.

We're not going to get there just yet, but shit

happens, and you'll find out some stuff later.

And, oh boy, do we find out stuff later. You

know, as I was saying earlier with Paula Garces,

holy hell, that chick is badass. Mike tracer

is dead. Oh nose And I love I love do you notice

let me ask you a question You notice they didn't

give him the sand. I understand. He's supposed

to look different than Michael, Sr I was expecting

that they would give him the same face as Michael

Knight or Garth No, no, no, no, no, no, no because

He was Mike tracer, you know, obviously they

You know if they they want him to be a different

person, you know care was like that, you know

You're I'm protecting us as well as you you have

a past Okay, so why didn't they do surgery or

give him some type of different face because

he was talking about Well, I could take on my

father's name Yeah, we'll say we're like no that's

no Well, that's not exactly exactly what happened

well it's uh... whatever raising right right

but okay i could i could see your point if they

had done with the old series did use a different

actor with justin bernie dubbing the actor you

know but i guess like what michael did in the

original series right but didn't do that because

it to you know two thousand eight it's all about

star power it's all about seeing the stars face

in the media and everything else for the story

yet it kind of doesn't make sense why they wouldn't

have done something like that but that's what

you know that uh... uh... well as you say was

i love the uh... uh... i love all the cat i'd

love this cast i love billy and zoe the new techie

characters they were a teenage friendship kind

of thing going on. It's like I said, it's nice

to learn about a shard of Mike's past. This crew

is so much more fun than the old crew. Sarah

has a laid back Bonnie on I don't know what.

She's she's a vivacious boss. She's more April

than Bonnie. You think? Yeah? I guess so. She's

more hands -on. Like, Sarah is like Bonnie by

the time Bonnie hits Season 4. Yeah, it took

Bonnie a while. But I simply love the supporting

cast, because if you think about it, Charles

is technically the Devon character, but he doesn't

really run things, but he has influence. Revye

and and Torres Well, I don't know we'll talk

about that later I'm just gonna say now, you

know, he gets his comeuppance though for being

an ass. He does Talk about that later. Yeah,

but You know, I I think it was in this episode.

Was it in this episode? It might have been in

a later one where Charles asks, how do you know

he won't remember? Was it in that episode was

it in this one or a different one? I think it's

in this one But the you know when he's talking

about his memory and you know Torres is like

well We'll have to make sure he doesn't remember

and it's like no it is in this because It's in

this one because it's at the very end, because

Kit records the conversation and then updates

Mike's hard copy file that's sitting on the seat.

Because when I first watched this, I'm like,

hey, wait, Kit's taping that, and whoa, there's

scanners coming out of this scanning the file,

because he updated Mike's file after they had

that conversation. So yeah, it was in this. And

again, that's what I mean about it. It sets it

up. It doesn't give away anything. No, no, no,

no, no. And it really does set it up. And I thought

it was, I thought it was great. It was awesome.

And I liked that. I did like this, you know,

that part of it. It was just, you know, the fact

that Torres is a very pompous ass. Yes. Yes.

Yes. It's, you know, anything that Charles says

Torres just goes against the grain. Like, you

don't know what you're talking about. Yeah. You

know, What else did you like about this one um

the fact that you know and this is this was after

Michael You know after Michael takes off from

in kit. I think they took off from the plane

Yeah He wants to go home But he can't Well, I

think remember that you know, you know what I'm

talking about where they where they were a body

was provided You know kit tells them a body was

provided. He wants to know whose body but kit

doesn't have that information Yeah, he's trying

to find out. All right, what happened after I

blacked out or after I was shot Yeah So that's

kind of nods in my personal opinion that almost

sort of nods to the classic except the difference

here The difference here is that Mike? Michael

night jr.. Junior doesn't find out What the of

the rest of the information is it's classified?

Yeah, not and not yet. He doesn't find out yeah

um I Don't know I like he said he wants to go

home, and then kit says You know you have to

hold You can't go home. And then all of a sudden

they're driving back to the SSC, and I'm like,

okay, well, there's his home. There you go, I

guess. I don't know. Well, I think what he was

wanting to say, you know, what he was really

wanting to do is go back to the place he lived.

Yeah. But, you know, Kit was like, there's nothing

there at your previous residence. Yeah. You know,

and he obviously reminds him, I am the property

of the Foundation for Law and Government, and...

you know, he was saying well, you can't you can't

be dead unless the body is declared and Kids

like a body was provided and kids like or Michaels

like whose body? Yeah, and then kids like that's

classified information. I don't have that So

that's why I said it's a nod to the classic series

to a point Because obviously In a later season

it was season two actually You know, they disturb

Michael Long's grave, a body's there, but it's

not really him. But in this one, in this one,

you don't see whose body it was. Yeah, and I

don't think we really need to, because the whole

point is, okay, we've done the Michael Long thing,

we've erased your identity, you are now Michael

Knight, and I think it's all right. The thing

about... The whole name thing I think it was

Carrie that told him she had to pick a name for

himself And he said well my father's name was

Michael Long and Zoe pops up and says that's

a porn name And again, that's why I love these

characters. I mean we're only one episode in

we've never seen Zoe or Billy Or Torres before

and yeah, sure. I I have my suspicion. I don't

like Torres in any way He's just there to be

the boss boss, but he's like he's like a male

Jennifer. I hate to say that Think about it Jennifer,

you know Think about it. He wants to run. He

wants to run the foundation how he sees fit Charles

is saying this is what I want to do yeah you

know yeah I hated to put it that way dude that

even freaks me the hell out but it's like ah

you know okay let's turn the scanners off after

this holy crap only one episode into this series

and I'm already officially freaked out First

aid complete. For a follow -up, please see your

personal physician within the next 24 hours.

Doesn't hurt anymore. The people you're talking

to here and see everything inside this car? Yes.

Kit, shut off all contact with the SSC. But Michael...

Just do it. Going offline. Get audio and visual

back up. No way to override. That would defeat

the purpose of artificial intelligence. Okay,

they can't hear or see us and please don't tell

them you know me. No, but I know the people you

work for and they're gonna dissect me then put

me under a microscope. What are you talking about?

I'm the cipher. Cipher for what? An unbreakable

code. My DNA is the key. Your DNA is a key to

decipher a code? Not just a code, the ultimate

code. And hidden in my DNA is the ultimate cipher.

Hidden in your DNA? I hid it there. I'm the one

who invented the code. You invented an unbreakable

code and hid the key to it in your DNA? Yeah.

Dude, that is so stupid. Yeah. Michael, I am

no longer able to track her. She's in the subway,

kid. Attack mode. initiating transformation transformation

completed all right turning the scanners off

there really honestly is not much about this

that i don't like no there's not i will say that's

To have something for this section I wish there

was a little bit more explanation in the episode

as far as what the hell the ultimate code was

for Like they hardly ever explained it they that

the guy himself said oh well The people you work

for are gonna take me back to here and they're

gonna dissect me for the code and blah blah They

didn't even say it was just for random. Yeah,

they didn't say they didn't ask. Okay. What is

this code for? Why is this code so important?

I agree with you there Yeah, they didn't ask

that. Yeah, they didn't ask that at all. And

I just I wanted a little bit more about the past

life of the now dead Mike Tracer. I wanted a

little bit like I know they're going to gradually

bring it out, especially once we get to the night

of the night of the living dead next week or

in a couple of weeks. Right. It's just one of

those things where if he had some sort of repressed

memory right away or if he remembered some sort

of combat or something i just remember they kept

mentioning iraq and that's where he fought but

he just had no recollection of it yeah so nope

not at all alright we're gonna move on to the

next episode Not underestimate these guys, Mike.

Johnny and Ian Chang both have criminal records

and a history of violence. Use your contact to

get close to them. We have to figure out how

they're smuggling US military technology overseas

and who their contact is. Why don't you just

take them down and swim? If we move in now, we'll

spook their supplier. See what you can find,

but don't provoke them. You're the boss. Up next

is Journey to the End of Night, or The Night,

or whatever the hell. Mike seeks the help of

a former military buddy in a mission to infiltrate

a drag race smuggling ring, but the friend may

have smuggling ties of his own. Okay, right off

the bat, issue with the plot. And it goes back

to your thing of, should he have had reconstructive

surgery or something? Yeah, he probably should

have, because... If he is now Michael Knight,

why does he have a former military buddy if his...

Not to mention, yeah, because the former military

buddy knows who he is. Yeah. That's a little

disconcerting about the plot. Other than that,

I can kind of see... elements of the old series

is racing and drug smuggling episodes combined

all into one in this You know you take night

in the fast lane or you take That was a racing

episode was a drug episode drug episode drug

episode Night in disgrace. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah night

in disgrace. You could take that one So it kind

of combines all kinds of elements from the original

series. I did like it overall. It's not... I

wish there was something a little bit more to

it. You know what I really wish is didn't they,

at the end of the first episode, didn't they

say he had another mission coming up? Yes. I

wish we would have had that instead of that,

like... If they're going to and I know they did

this with the old series there were several times

Devin said oh well you're supposed to be here

in two days and now you have this mission coming

up now you know I get that but and and there

were times in the old series where episodes would

start where they just finished an assignment

yeah they pick it up right I wish that they would

this, specifically with this, if this is supposed

to have some sort of strict continuity to it,

I wish they would have picked it up with that

mission that they teased us with at the end of

the first episode versus what we have here. Right.

Any other thoughts on the plot? Not really. I

won't say it was hard to follow because it wasn't.

There was a lot of action. I did like that. um

but the fact that his old military buddy finds

out about kit yeah that's yeah that's a little

it's like okay this is supposed to be some top

secret car and you know alrighty then yeah it's

not exactly the The best plots, but I mean for

a second episode it was alright. I did like the

action set pieces that it had Those were kind

of cool So there's that yeah I Think this was

the episode was this the episode where or in

it may not have been but was this the episode

where Sarah's in the garage and Yeah, she has

to steal the car has to steal the car Man, I've

never seen Charles Greymon get so pissed. Well,

we've only seen him three times in this, but

yeah. Right, but I'm saying that particular,

that particular shot, you know, and then, you

know, it's like, what's my daughter doing there?

Yup. He was not - Not a happy father. No, not

at all. The other thing before we go to commercial

or before we switch, yeah. One of the things,

and maybe I'll bring this up in the scanners

or expand on it, but I actually like the fact

that Sarah can kick some ass. Oh, yeah. We learned

that from the very first episode. I hate needles.

Oh boy. Alright, she's never been a fan of needles.

Nope. We're gonna turn the scanners on after

this. All right, let's turn the scanners on.

Okay, let me start out by just saying this. In

the time between 2001 and 2008, there were three

Fast and the Furious films out at that time.

And there have been a number of racing movies

and TV shows prior to the KR franchise and after

it. But I do like seeing the KIT 3000 race in

an updated version. Very cool. Seeing this episode

and seeing these races he did, Well, it reminded

me of all the races that Michael and Kit 2000

used to do. Right. But with today's technology

and with the Mustang being the Mustang, this

is so cool. I do enjoy the races that that Kit

and Michael used to do in the old series. Don't

get me wrong. I do. But those are good races

for their time. Yeah, but I think for me, it's

not only that, it's more so... It's not nostalgia.

Because... The hell can you say that? No, no,

no. About this show. No, I know. What's not nostalgia?

This show... Watching the races in this show,

it's not about nostalgia and what I remember

from the old show, but it is about legacy. It

is about the fact that... these producers these

creators these these filmmakers right actors

all that stuff are paying attention to what came

before it because this is a sequel series to

is a continuation from the original series and

they're paying so we'll marches off with doing

a racing the only thing that was missing which

it'll come next uh... into weeks uh... in uh...

night of the living dead the only thing missing

from this racing episode was kid actually having

some sort of race disguise that was missing yeah

that was missing like you know michael hand sticking

on stars on kit two thousand but uh... but no

these these races i really love them because

it's so cool and it's kit i mean come on Again

attack mode. Oh my god attack I love both always

love both of us will always love super pursuit

mode We both are in agreement of that. We all

love that but attack mode, you know for kit this

this time around is is awesome Yeah, it really

is good Did you catch the Goliath reference No

I forget which one it is, but there's one of

the two -parters of one of the Goliaths Episodes

from the old series. Yes Michael had to repair

kit himself to get them out of the desert That

would be Goliath returns. Okay. All right. Well

and Goliath returns Michael Knight had to turn

kit into a modified ramjet. The guy in the other

car is using a modified ramjet. Oh, cool! Wow!

That's awesome. Kit of the desert. If you ain't

the shark, you're food. Homage to the original

the homage to the original classic. Yes Wow So

this part of partly a social commentary between

Kit Sarah and Michael in this in this series

where Michael is trying to teach him to be a

guy and Sarah and everybody else is trying to

teach him to be you know more sensitive and Kit

said, well, how do you know I am a boy or a girl?

And he turned his voice to a girl. No, no, no,

no, no. I laughed at that part. Yeah, yeah, I

laughed. Even though now in 2014, you know, we're

six years removed from this series. Six years

ago, they released Rockstar. Games released Grand

Theft Auto IV. There's a Grand Theft Auto IV

reference. Mike says, this isn't Grand Theft

Auto IV. I love when Sarah gets into her characters.

Sarah is just amazing. I gotta try to get her

on. I gotta try to get Deanna Russo. That would

be awesome. That would be cool if we could get

her. Her and Justin. Yeah, well if we could get

Justin. Oh god, I would love to get Justin brooming

on this show though. It's awesome I'm actually

seeing pictures of him doing the classic thumbs

up. Oh Really with kit. Yeah, there was a picture

The with the classic thumbs up that David did

yeah, very cool Let me see here. I wonder what

he... I wonder what Justin's up to nowadays.

I have no idea. Oh, he's not doing the soaps

anymore. 2013. Oh, he's on Ravenswood now. Recurring

cast member. Okay. He was on an episode of YA5O,

the new updated version. He's on a couple episodes

of Grey's Anatomy last year. Oh, wow. He was

a recurring character, uh, season one on Switched

at Birth. Oh yeah, I forgot about this. He was

a recurring character on season one, the only

season that the show had. He was on Ringer for

nine episodes as Tyler Barrett. I was like, in

2011 when Ringer premiered, I was like, hey,

it's him! So, very, very, very cool. That's good,

he's still going, he's doing some acting. Yeah,

he's still doing some acting and I loved Last

part of my notes here is Mike is just a head

in the desert All hell What did you like about

this one everything I mean it does it does try

to come together even though the plot is Misguided

just a little bit I mean, we do have some homage

to the classic and, you know, the modified ramjet.

That's awesome, too. But other than that, there's

not really too much to really complain about.

No, really isn't. I mean, I didn't even write

any scanners off notes. I didn't. I mean, sure,

if you want to dissect it and say, oh, well,

it's your standard middleman best friend, double

cross weapons dealing episode. and normally do

that but well i would not believe it would say

stuff what you talk i talk you talk i talk we

cannot talk at the same time now i was saying

uh... well i was saying that normally we would

analyze something like that but these episode

location really two episodes and but they're

really good episodes for the most part uh...

and again it's building up the mystery around

mike and what's going on with him and everything

else and we see that kids is it takes kids a

lot less time into episodes kid has learned more

then two thousand did in the first ten episodes

of the season one so it's taking the three thousand

less time to learn as much so i do like that

but yeah i mean i really have even if you want

to call this your standard weapons episode it

was really really fun well the other thing i

was saying too was that um we could write a lot

of scanners off notes but there would be so many

small nitpicks that it wouldn't really be worth

it And that's what I was saying. So, you know,

I really didn't have any scanners off moments

at all, because there are none. There really

aren't any. I mean, maybe, like I said, the plot's

misguided, but that's the smallest nitpick that

I could look past. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. All

right. We are going to move on to the final episode

of the day after this. A U .S. undercover agent

went to meet with what we believe is a terrorist

cell in Baja. The operation's code name was Iguana.

Agent Turner's cover was as an import facilitator.

He's a high -end trafficker who specializes in

getting illegal cargo into the U .S. We think

he was being asked to help bring in a weapon

system. What kind of weapon system? We don't

know. What kind of terrorists sell? We don't

know that either. The day after Turner reached

Baja, he vanished. Twelve hours later, an extraction

team was sent in after him. They vanished too.

That's not creepy. Turner has a homing device

on him. It's an active RFID transmitter inserted

into the subcutaneous tissue of his wrist. It

has a range of 400 yards, transmit duration 216

hours. Then the signal is deteriorating. Can

Kit's frequency amp help? Well, that's what we're

hoping. And finally up today is Night of the

Iguana. Mike and Zo... or Zoe, supposed as a

couple to infiltrate the terrorist group in Baja,

California, suspected of stealing a powerful

missile designed by Knight Research. Hmm. Hmm.

Okay. The plot. I loved this. I laughed at this.

Mike is scared of water versus the original Kit,

who was. Very... I thought that was great. Kind

of a reverse. Oh yeah. I thought that was really

cool. And again, they pay attention to details

from the original series so well. This plot,

I liked it. It was cool. It was interesting.

I will say that there's not a lot here, but what

is here, it's very, very cool. And again, this

episode and the last episode, they could be,

you could really consider them and nitpick them

to be, oh great, two mass weapons episodes or

sales or whatever else. Again, it's the characters,

it's Kit and the cast of characters that make

these last two episodes we've talked about today

so enjoyable. Because it's the moments with the

characters and I think that was one of the greatest

things they did with this show was they built

it around the characters not necessarily the

standard plots that we would get like People

go back to the 35 to 42 and listen to our team

Knight Rider discussion. There is no No real.

Okay. Sure Trek and Erica have some really great

qualities as characters, but And Duke does as

well, but Jenny has no real interesting... Like,

this entire cast, all of the main cast, have

great chemistry with each other. The characters,

all... With the exception of... Idiot there,

Torres. He's an idiot. Yeah, I swear, I almost

wanted to call him A -Rod for a while. 162 games

But yeah, no overall I mean the plot for me I

really liked and I thought it was interesting

and I will get to why it was so interesting When

I get to my scanners on because again the homages

are Amazing. What did you like about the plot?

I think Zoe liked Michael a lot more than she

liked Billy. I know that She would tease Billy

quite a bit. Yeah, I understand that that was

that was the whole point between the two characters

but When they work together in this episode,

I think there was a bit of a small chemistry

there. Um more so than Sarah and Mike Well, yeah

Yeah, I can kind of see that All right, let's

get to the scanners Sometimes she can be Out

there? Well, she speaks Spanish, and she surfs.

Do you? No, and no, but that's not the point.

Zoe is... Zoe. How about you, Billy? Do you surf?

No. No, the ocean's not really my thing. I rash

up. I want Mike and Zoe geared up for the beach

in 40. Covers Devin and Bonnie. A honeymoon cover.

Alright, turning the scanners on. I mentioned

the homages and... The identities. Devin and

Bonnie! Oh god, I... Because I can... Even though

he was an old guy. I could so see Devon being

a surfer. The real Devon Miles. I could so see

him being a surfer, whereas Mike really isn't.

But no, it's... God. When I originally watched

this series, when it was airing, I probably fell

out of bed when they said that. Every reference

that they make in this series, I was... Just

falling out of my chair falling out of it. I

was falling everywhere when they made references

and Especially once they start doing the whole

Robotic thing later It just takes it to a whole

new level. Yeah again nice nod and I know all

throughout this episode I've said that these

producers and creators keep paying attention

to the original series and it's it's so great

this is the series it's very true though that

they that they do that's why we bring it up yeah

and and the thing is this series is what i wanted

for the longest time because it is a continuation

because it is technically michael night jr even

though i don't think they ever actually call

him jr no um so it's one of those things where

Annie nod to the original is a blessing Yeah,

it really is and wow what a rocket that was an

amazing blast Aftermath it's just awesome because

Kit has a James Bondian move kit is underwater

just like the the Aston Martin was in one of

the Bond films Spy who loved me. Yes, it was

spy who loved me that they the underwater Aston

Martin very cool And you know you said that Mike

and Zoe had a little bit more chemistry than

you thought he and Sarah do Well, no, no, no,

I well Billy cuz Billy Billy and Zoe, you know

Billy and Zoe Zoe's always teasing Billy Yeah,

it's it's a sexual tension kind of thing. But

right and I know that Sarah and Mike have a history

together Yeah, I understand that but when within

this episode I think that Zoe and Mike kind of

have a little bit of a chemistry together They

don't even I don't even really have chemistry

together. They have bodily fluids mishmash You

got tequila and boil boy What What did you like

about this one same thing the old guy, you know

Devon and Bonnie I just The the so many homages

to the classic You you can't look away, you know,

this is where we're already, you know into the

second episode and They pay attention to the

classic Yeah, they still keep it going. There's

not a moment where it falls apart at all really

I do find some humorous, you know, like you said

Michael being afraid of water You know when you

mentioned that I didn't even think of that That

wasn't even one of the notes. I wrote down but

now that I play it back in my head That's right

because 25 years before it was kids Cars are

meant to be driven not boats. Yeah So, yeah Great

job on this episode really Yeah, it was really

really fun. It really was All right, and for

the scanners off I'm just gonna combine them

cuz I only had one note really The music oh my

god. This is the one episode so far that the

music for me really I get it there see what i

don't get is i thought they were going to mexico

or somewhere but it says in the description that

it was california why would a bunch of mexican

music be playing in california on a surfer beach

i mean well some mexicans live in california

well no i get it no no no i i don't mean it like

that i don't mean it like that i meant like i

understand what your question was when i watched

i was like what Yeah, that music just was I guess

you know like you're saying it didn't fit No,

not at all Not at all you could hear surfer music

or something yeah surfing in the US Something

you know something yeah, all right. We're gonna

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Fantastic. Allons -y! Maybe I'll just kick your

ass. Fighting tonight? Let's take this outside.

I've got a better idea. Let's race. How about

a race for pinks? Mikey. Forget these dudes,

man. They're not worth it. Walk away. You got

this. Okay. Let's go. Watch the bar. All right,

we are back and it is time to rate the first

three episodes of Knight Rider 2008. For Knight

in Shining Armor, I give it a five. Five kick.

I give it a five kit. I give this a five kit

cars. There's just no, you know. And for Journey

to the End of the Night, I'll give it a four.

I'll take a point off for the not really predictable

plot, but the standard plot of, hey, it's a weapons,

and hey, your best friend is actually in on it.

So I'll give it a four out of five for Journey

to the End of the Night. Four and a half. Okay.

And for Night of the Iguana, I know it's a...

Standard plot, but I got to give it a five because

of Devon and body. Yes, I know I'd give it a

six I'd give it two extra points or seven or

whatever Whatever, but I mean it was and it was

really really cool. I mean this was done so well

Yeah, I mean even though I didn't care for the

music at the time It was just one of those things

where I watched it. I watched it. I really, really

enjoyed it. I got to give it five cars. Like

you said, if there were extra cars that we could

give it, I'd give it a seven. You know, hell,

I'd give it 10 if it were possible. But, you

know, like the only letdown was, like you said,

the music was like, OK, yeah, I see the point,

but that doesn't fit there. So, you know, other

than that, it's pretty good. So. If I was feeling

really cruel, I would go back and record that

music and then put it under a certain scope.

You probably would, ass. Yes, I probably would.

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Music Man 08. Kit, close the show. Every cowboy

needs a sidekick. I would not sell yourself short,

Michael. You are much more than a horse. Hey,

sense of humor. That's new. So is friendship.

Hey, we're back! And we forgot to mention something

in the original outro, and rather than have us

re -record it, we're going to put it here. The

link will be in the post so you guys can see

it, but you had linked to me the original Knight

Rider, a video on YouTube, someone made a music

video with Evan Essence's My Immortal song. Yes,

I did. I sent that to you. Yes, the video will

be in the episode 44 post on geek cast radio

comm so people can see this I did really enjoy

the imagery of the classic series in the video

But after a while and after way too much radio

airplay, I got so sick of the my immortal song

Thinking about it afterwards and I was like Okay,

Michael and Kit, the original Michael and Kit,

are meant to be buddies, friends, partners, a

team. Right, we talked about this off air. Yes,

well, that's what's coming up right now, that

discussion. So you'll find people will see my

inspiration of combining Nickelback and Knight

Rider after this. okay the whole point of kit

and michaels relationship is friendship and that

they're buds and that they they're partners that

they always look out for each other yes nickelbacks

when we stand together dude that rocks yeah i

didn't even think of that yeah i would not i

have never thought of that have you heard the

song yeah okay I just never thought of this song

actually going with that vid that would actually

be nice if they did if they had used that song

Yeah It would make so much more sense Nickelback

and Knight Rider forever Wow that you know what

I'm seeing that video play back in my head That

work that works dude Have you done videos before

have I know not personally damn I need someone

to get me that video file That would have been

awesome, I mean I can get it for you, but I don't

know if we could overwrite the music Yeah, I

know I know that's the problem Oh, that would

be so awesome.