Beyond The Knight

Halloween Knight, K.I.T.T. vs. K.A.R.R., and The Rotten Apples Review

February 6, 2013 35:31 EXPLICIT
Beyond The Knight Halloween Knight, K.I.T.T. vs. K.A.R.R., and The Rotten Apples Review
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About this Episode

A deep dive into three Season 3 episodes of Knight Rider. The discussion covers the tone and musical score of 'Halloween Knight,' the return of the evil prototype in 'K.I.T.T. vs. K.A.R.R.' featuring Paul Frees as the voice of K.A.R.R., and the rural setting of 'The Rotten Apples.' The hosts evaluate the plot, character interactions, and action sequences in each entry.

Voice command, are you ready? Well, I can't believe

this. You got the whole world at your fingertips.

Music. I bet George Lucas drives on these things.

a shadowy flight into the dangerous world of

a man who does not exist. Michael Knight, a young

loner on a crusade to champion the cause of the

innocent, the helpless, the powerless, in a world

of criminals who operate above the law. Welcome

to beyond the night. This is episode 18 brought

to you by the geek cast radio network and audible

comm I am one of your hosts TF Joe and Mike joining

me is down the music man. Hello. Hello, sir.

Hello back again Yes, and this time I won't make

any full pause Today we're gonna go be going

beyond the night reviewing three more episodes

from that writer classic season 3 hit the turbo

boost kit I'm Norman Baines. What's in the sack?

Alright. 36 Fairview Road. 36 Fairview Road.

Boy, this place looks really familiar. Well then

I'll have to put a curse on you. Michael, look

out. First up is Halloween night. Somebody shoot

me now. There you go. I just All right after

Bonnie claims she witnessed a murder she's plagued

by strange happenings designed to scare her out

of her new apartment I do like that this episode

is a Bonnie Cedric episode But I don't like the

whole like I've never like Halloween to me is

dressing up as a rock or something, you know

Charlie Brown reference. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

I got it I got it. You know, you know dressing

up and and and and going to get candy I've never

gotten into the whole let's go on a danger run.

Let's go to a hundred house runner Let's I've

never gotten into the whole a scaring thing.

I just I just don't care. Yeah I will say right

off the bat that I'd like the music that Don

peak did for this but at the same time It also

makes me not like the episode itself because

of what the music is because it's supposed to

be You know scary and haunting and everything

else, but you realize where he got the idea from

Well, yeah Bates Yeah, yeah That's fine. I mean,

it's it works. It works It does it does it did

work for the episode. Although I'm quite mad

that there are some music cues missing from the

soundtrack, but That's not Don's fault and it's

not Yeah, I'll talk about that later But no The

reason I bring this the reason actually I brought

the soundtrack up in the first place is because

some of the Soundtrack sounds different, you

know on on the CD if you guys get it then it

does through the television You know the episode

There may be some cues missing or different sound

effects or just you know There may be just things

that are not there altogether, but that's not

what we're here to talk about this particular

episode here Like I said to TFG one off, you

know when we weren't recording I said I'll give

them credit For doing an episode like this But

I think that it's one of those be spy episodes

Yeah, so It it they tried to make it work I'll

give them that I'll give them the credit I'll

give them work I'll give them credit where credit

is due, but it just doesn't work. Yeah And again,

it's I think for me it's because I'm not into

Halloween like at all You know, that's another

reason why I don't care for it. So yeah, let's

see if we can turn the scanners on for anything.

I don't know. We'll see. Would you kindly get

that black furball off my roof? Oh, Voodoo is

my familiar. He helps me with all my magic. Then

see if he'll help you make him disappear. Thank

you. Alright, let's turn the scanners on. Norman

Just creepy funny, but it's creepy Louie the

14th Oh Devin Devin's costume. Yeah, it's so

funny So funny, did you like anything about this

one? Kids line of would you kindly remove that

furball from my person? The other I really don't

know because you know you You know you see Michael

and this is another scene that I'm talking about

But you see Michael going into that costumes

shop and it's you know, and it's closed and it's

all dark and you hear the music and You hear

a noise and Michael kind of reacts, you know

because you're supposed to it's supposed to be

scary And you know kids like are you okay? Your

pulse rate is up and your blood pressure is high

and it's like Alrighty then I mean, I know what

kids supposed to do. He's supposed to preserve

human life. And yeah, I mean through this whole

This whole show I mean that that's You know,

I really don't know what to say here because

it I'm trying to keep it positive for scanners

on But yeah, it's quite cool, too So let's just

move on this three analyzer. Will you partner?

It's here from a real gorilla why did Bonnie

have to choose one of those singles buildings?

Let's turn these scanners off. The bad thing

about this episode when I watched it as a kid,

it seems like every time I was watching it, I

was traveling with my dad when he was driving

a motor coach. So watching this in the middle

of the night on a motor coach, driving through

God knows where for a five, six year old kid,

not a good idea. No. not at all the plot of this

one give me a break the kid from the first marriage

wants the business and the thing is they're they're

half brother and half sister is there supposed

to be some incest going on there because honestly

when you first see the sister I forget off the

top of my head I'll have to look it up I forget

what the damn character's name is Denise yeah

when you first see Denise and Simon they Least

to me. They're made to look like they're a couple

not brother and yeah, that's what I thought because

I'm like, yeah, okay There and I'm like they're

a couple but then you find out later. They're

half brother and half sister Yeah, that was a

little strange to me. Oh, you know that was just

That way, I don't know But what didn't you like

about it cuz I I just don't like it in general

the whole the plot it's just it's like, okay,

really you get bored with it you get bored with

the plot because You know, you see that like

you said Denise and Simon you look you think

that they're a couple and they're not then you

find out they're half brother and half sister

and You find out that one of the kids wants the

father's business and it's like, okay now we

get to the heart of the matter here, so You're

gonna make us wait to find out all you know find

this all out. Yeah Yeah, I don't know it's just

it's And again because I'm not into that much

into Halloween like I said night to keep being

at you know We're broken record here, but it's

just like I don't know like a Funny thing is

like I'll see trailers for For horror movies

nowadays, and I just kind of like cringe at him

because it's like horror movies Whatever, but

then I watch an episode like this and this is

the shit that scares me Yeah, isn't it isn't

even really that scary when you think about it,

but it it's that it's the music Don is a for

dumb. Oh my god. I almost called him Don Bluth.

Holy crap Don peak is a freaking genius when

it comes to the music cuz that's what made it

so creepy was the music of the episode right

So let's let's move on to an episode. We actually

like I Wouldn't move mr. Miles Goodbye, Michael

Knight. Up next is Kit versus Carr. Uh -oh, Kit's

evil prototype Carr returns seeking to destroy

Michael and Kit with a new laser stolen from

the Foundation. Okay, first of all, let everybody

know, set the record straight, entrust doesn't

rust. It was Peter Cullen, voice of Optimus Prime,

providing the voice for Carr. In this episode,

it's Paul Freeze. May he rest in peace. May he

rest in peace. Providing the voice. The reason

why they switched it was because they wanted

a more sinister, darker, creepier, evil voice.

And Paul Freeze had that for this character over

Peter Cullen. Now, fast forward, what is it,

26 years later? when we get to the eventual 2008

reboot, Peter Cullen will be back in his car

and boy was he creepy in that. He was. Yeah,

we'll we'll get to that when we get to it. But

Kit versus car plot thoughts. Very good plot.

Very good. You know, very good storyline. The

fact that, you know, we see car because, you

know, everybody remembers that and trust doesn't

rust. He's supposed to go over a cliff Yes, which

Ryan so pointed out to us that it wasn't actually

car that went over the cliff No, thank you for

that ruining, you know But we see car this time

being pulled out, you know at the sands of the

beach you know tide pools of the beach and things

like that and car is getting parts and Like you

said, he's trying to destroy Michael and kit

and We see John and Mandy Yeah, and you know,

it's just it's it's crazy. So we're gonna get

to this in a lot more detail. I think oh Yeah,

very much. So very much. So alright, let's let's

go ahead and get to these scanners on All right,

let's try one more time go back to surveillance

mode According to my projections the source should

be here within seconds Michael Michael that can't

be car. We destroyed car two years ago. And who

or what is that? But I saw him explode you saw

him explode. I know All right, give me a visual

on the license plate good idea So much for wishful

thinking let's turn the scanners on who's Alan

fund genie in the magic lamp who am i aladdin

if you choose yes they must have picked up my

sonar damn oh my god where are the brakes manual

override press turbo boost press turbo boost

yeah it's so awesome um no i think this is great

i think that that kit versus car is a really

good episode um And it, you know, brings back

an old villain for them and... I just... I wonder

though, like I wonder if they did ask Peter and

he maybe just said no? Well no, I've heard in

interviews, somewhere I heard it online or read

it online or I've seen it said somewhere that

they chose to go with Paul Freeze because they

wanted a more sinister evil voice. Than what

Peter had at the time mm -hmm Because Peter I

guess you know for season one was kind of the

I'm learning. I'm I know who I am type voice

But Paul had that you know I do see that he kind

of had that vengeful. I want revenge yeah, you

know and For the time Paul's is more creepy even

though I like Peters overall Paul's was way more

creepy than then what Peter did in trust doesn't

rust I also like the effects that they did for

Paul's voice You know when it come when it came

to him speaking. Yeah, it was very awesome What

else did you like about this one I liked the

fact that We actually do get to see car and kit

do battle this time. It's not Where it's not

it's not And it's not a battle where car turns

away first and chickens out I do like the fact

that we do get to see kit and car battle this

time around I Still don't know how kit survived

with the laser No with the turbo boost At the

end the turbo boo, oh yeah when they both turbo

boost into the air and one you know and they

and car blows up Yeah, yeah Yeah, because you

would think that that would have damaged kit

in some type of way But I don't know I Don't

know. Maybe they perfected the MBS between car

and kit. So I don't know The thing about this

episode is the ending it leaves it open to interpretation

for future series of Knight Rider and obviously

when we get to KR 08 they create their own version

of how car came about but It's it's interesting

because at the end the technology is still kind

of there if somebody wants to pick it up off

the Desert floor or whatever. I thought with

this one what they would have done was do one

more kit versus car episode Because you remember

at the end You see kind of you see the CPU still

somewhat active yeah alright so let's uh let's

get to the scanners off turn the scanners off

how can we say anything bad about this episode

this episode was absolutely great i loved how

and i know i'm continuing the scanners on but

i did love how uh he His target was the semi

and not Everything else that the foundation thought

he was gonna go after I thought that was cool

As far as scanners off peer pressure is a bitch,

especially from a deadly computer. Yeah Yeah,

so What did you not like anything about this

one? I can't say anything bad about this one.

I really can't I would love to find I Would really

love to find something bad about it, but I can't

There really isn't anything to say bad about

you know in this episode or about this episode

wholeheartedly Um, like you said peer pressure

from a computer is quite interesting uh The fact

that I will say it I should have mentioned this

scanner and scanners on I liked You know car,

you know, you know car's evil voice of Press

turbo boost and you know, he doesn't want to

press it. He's like Press it. Yeah, it's like

oh my god All right, let's let's move on to the

last episode of the day Big Ed I say we fire

up this baby right now and grind those apples

into sauce Look if you want to find out about

Big Ed Why don't you just take a little peek

inside of his safe that all of my equity is in

my livestock No livestock, no equity. Rebecca

Hammond lost 20 calves to rustlers this morning.

He's on to us, Alfred. Am I seeing double? And

finally up today is The Rotten Apples. A psychologist

who bought a ranch to use as a home for troubled

city kids needs Michael's help to stop rustlers

and keep angry townsfolk from taking her land.

Oh boy. On the plus side there is monster trucks.

Yeah, I'll give it that It's not bad no, it's

not No, it's not horrible. But like I said the

plot essentially is The fact that Rebecca the

psychologist who brings these city kids out to

the country to Make them do make them behave

or do whatever they're basically they're basically,

you know in the episode they're abused and troubled

kids and You know, she's wanting to kind of keep

them on the straight and narrow and she thinks

well I'm gonna try and save these kids cuz all

they're all they know are the streets. That's

all they know Oh my God. Holy crap. Well, because

I know you usually ask me about, oh, I wonder

who played that chick or whatever else. No. The

Marilyn, the singer. Yeah. Was Lana Clarkson.

The name was played by Lana Clarkson. Lana Clarkson

was the... actress and fashion model who uh who

on april uh april 13 2009 songwriter producer

phil specter was convicted of uh second degree

murder of her gunshot death oh my god yeah she's

dead i didn't know that yep at the time of her

death at the time of her death she was 41 oh

that's creepy all r i p so we do you know how

it's gonna make my own of my own scanners on

those feel really really really bad all the overall

part of this i'll i like it i think it's interesting

uh... it's not well it isn't it isn't a corrupt

sheriff thing it kind of it's more of a corrupt

family thing anything else Yes. Yeah. But overall,

I like the plot. I think it's cool. I think it's

interesting to, again, get more kids involved

with Kit. And I thought that was really cool.

And I like that they're troubled teens, because

they're not just a little girl or a little boy

or an old lady or whatever else. They're very,

very cool. Any other? He said old lady. Oh. aunt

martha was only oh yeah yeah i i know what you

mean because um in a nice and decent little town

i did like i did like the fact that um and well

i i want to say one of the notes for scanners

on because it was funny and one of the one of

the notes i wrote down and i wrote i put it in

scanners on but i did like the i did like this

overall i did like this overall it was not a

bad plot you didn't have to turn away from the

You did not have to turn away from the show.

You didn't have to turn away from the show. You

could sit and go, okay, this is cool. I can deal

with this and I can watch this and whatnot. So

it's not a bad plot. You don't have to go, okay,

can we see some action here within the next 10

minutes or I'm picking up my remote? Yeah. Yeah,

exactly. So let's turn these scanners on. Nice

singing. In reference to Marilyn's song. I think

I liked you better when you spoke rock and roll.

Oh, Kit. Kit is definitely not a country dude.

Yeah, yeah. Marilyn, now that's a hot night rider

chick. Now, you know, yeah, it's kind of kind

of creepy me saying that now that sadly she's

not with us anymore But that's what I had written

down. What did you like about this one? I liked

what the others the scene I liked was Hey, I'm

from 125th Street. I'm not that easy to impress

and kids like what you're not hmm Well, we'll

just see about that kid starts up and drives

all over the place and it just it's crazy because

You can just see one of the kids interact with

the car again And he says, well, what does the

hot 125th Street kid have to say now? And he's

pushing buttons and all this stuff. And he's

like, I know what I'm doing. And he pushes the

eject button. And you just see him flying out

of the car. And the guy looks up, the kid looks

up, and he goes, impressive. And they all start

laughing. So that was a cool scene. I like that.

Yeah, that's the same with me. I absolutely like

that as well. And I like how they decide to go

around the shortcuts and sneak up behind the

kid sheriff. I thought that was cool, too. Anything

else? I can't think of anything right now, no.

I mean, it was a good episode. I thought it was

really cool. Again, it was something different,

something that we hadn't... These three episodes

today... and I know we're still in rotten apples

but they just they're all so different from each

other and that's what I like and kind of like

about them that first one not so much yeah all

right let's uh let's move on let's uh turn these

scanners off um I only had one thing written

down a cattle stealing episode really but as

I watched that was kind of like a first reaction

as I saw that like The beginning of the episode

as I watched I was like, oh well, that's that's

interesting. Um Very cool. Did you have anything

you didn't like about this one? The same thing

you wrote down was like, okay, really? Cattle

wrestling that that was it. I mean it wasn't

like like we've said in scanners on this was

not a bad episode We didn't have to pick up the

remote after 10 minutes and turn it Yeah Uh,

you know, I I I I just i'm glad That they did

this one. I am glad that it is one but you know,

it's it's not a bad episode overall the plot

is good right, you don't have anything that's

mixed up anywhere and And or anything like that.

So like I said, the only note I really had written

down was the cattle thing, but that was it Yeah

Yeah, if it would have been if this episode would

have aired in 1994 I would almost be waiting

for Jack Palance to show up somewhere. Good ol'

Curly. I swear, this episode reminds me of City

Slickers. Billy Crystal, Jack Palance, I think.

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so uh final thoughts on these three episodes

this week uh wow the one that we just talked

about i have to give a five okay rotten apples

rotten apples i have to give a five kit versus

car Also have to give a five. Yeah on that one

I Don't know what to give the first one we talked

about I really don't Halloween night. I just

I can't I don't even know if I can Try alright,

I have to give it a one. I'm sorry. I just I

It only gets one point for the fact that Don

Peek is an awesome composer. Yeah, that's it.

That's the only reason why. If this episode didn't

have totally creepy music that just freaks you

the hell out, it would get a zero. Yeah, but

the other two episodes, I give them five a piece.

I give them five kit cars a piece. Yeah, same

for me. Kit versus car gets five kit cars or

five car cars, whatever. And rotten apples gets

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Get clothes to show. Whoa, whatever happened

to Asmerelda? Oh, that was just for Halloween.

You didn't really believe all that nonsense about

my being a witch, did you? You being a witch?

Come on, you gotta be kidding. Not for a minute.

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