Sin City: A Dame to Kill For Review

Today on Weekend at the Movies we'll be discussing

the latest in rock castings, what's next in regards

to Black Panther, Wesley Snipes, and finally

we'll take a second trip to Sin City. All that

and more on Weekend at the Movies. with us here

on Weekend at the Movies and we will start as

we usually do by looking at the box office which

we haven't had a chance to look at in a couple

weeks but that's okay because the same movie

has been basically ruling the box office for

the last better part of a month now and that

would be Guardians of the Galaxy which once again

comes in at number one. You know it's a bad weekend

at the box office when the number one movie only

brings in ten million dollars. Don't know ten

millions is a lot of monies And also when your

number one movie is in its sixth week of release

So I don't know if that's saying something real

good about Guardians of the Galaxy or real bad

about all the other competition Yeah, probably

a little bit of both hanging tight at number

two again just like last week no change Teenage

Mutant Ninja Turtles Let's Be Cop jumped up from

number five all the way up to number three. If

I Stay went from three to four, and November

Man crept up one spot into the top five. I think

the cricket sound is appropriate right there.

That brings Guardians of the Galaxy with the

10. $10 .3 million brought in this week domestically

it brings it up to 294 .7 million Against that

170 million budget, so it's Doing phenomenal

next week will surpass 300 million Which by the

way it also just this week jumped into all -time

domestic top 50 territory nice So in the last

week it has passed Home Alone, Monsters Inc,

a pair of Harry Potter films, Lion, the Witch

and the Wardrobe, Man of Steel, The Empire Strikes

Back, one of the Twilight films, Inception, Up,

and most recently it passed The Sixth Sense and

now holds a firm spot at number 50 right behind

another. Here you go. Guardians of Galaxy 50,

49, Harry Potter 48, Twilight 47, Twilight 46,

Harry Potter 45, The Hobbit. So I guess it's

gonna surpass a bunch of Harry Potter and Twilight

stuff here in the next week. Alright. It's a

good movie. It deserves it. It's a good movie.

Nothing really... Too much to mention. I don't

really think about this week at the box office.

I mean, it's kind of just the exact same as it

was last week. And even though we didn't talk

about it, I think everybody in the country knows

that Guardians of the Galaxy is doing pretty

good. I was hearing that the giver was doing

actually poorly, but it's already made its budget.

Yeah. I mean, I don't think it's doing as well

as maybe they had hoped to. Yeah. But yeah, it's

already made its money back as have let's be

cops made its money back. Yeah. The 100 foot

journey. Lucy is still standing tall in there

when the seventh week still in the top 10 area.

Yeah, I'm pretty happy about that And boyhood

a lot of hype on that one. It's it's for somewhat

of a limited Release and limited obviously marketing

behind it. It's it's in its ninth week, and it's

still bringing in over a million dollars So that's

pretty good And I mean that movie has the buzz

behind it like there's so many people talking

about it And Ghostbusters has added 3 million

to its domestic gross from 30 years ago. So that's

always fun when they do that and kind of bump

themselves up in the standings a little bit.

If you're looking at the yearly totals, obviously

we have a new leader, well not even just a new

leader, but a substantial leader now. Guardians

of the Galaxy at 295 and Captain America is in

second at 259, so it's not even close. Guardians

of the Galaxy is way out in front. and filed

by Captain America, The Lego Movie, Transformers,

and Maleficent with X -Men just a little bit

behind Maleficent. So yeah, that's pretty much

the story of the box office. Anything that you

guys wanted to bring up from any movies that

you were looking at or anything related to the

box office? I just thought about Let's Be Cops

made to quite... a lot more than its budget.

So we're probably going to get a let's be cops,

too, which is the worst thing ever. Well, at

least they should say let's be cops again or

something. Yeah, it should. I like let's be cops,

too. But now it's like ladies, you know, it's

like, oh, man, they were cops. Let's be cops,

too. Oh, let's be cops as well. Yeah. Yeah. As

long as they can do that. Oh, man. Recasting

comedies, though, is usually a bad idea. These

two guys made us a bunch of money when you know

what we should do get people at an exact opposite

Another sign that it was not necessarily a great

week at the box office the As far as like the

new released films the highest ranking one was

12th this week You had to go down 12 spots to

find a new release from this weekend Um, yeah,

identical. So I don't, I don't even know what

that movie is. I don't remember what that is

even about. I'm sure I've watched this trailer.

It opened in nearly 2000 theaters. So we should

have heard about it. Oh no. We didn't. That's

what happens when we fall asleep for a couple

of weeks. Degas news. All right. Well, getting

into some of the movie headlines, I know this

is somewhat old, but I wanted to bring it up

just, uh, just to do it here. Um, some people

are probably familiar with this character and

this actor. Um, and some of the roles that he's

played over the years. I know I probably most

know him from his role in Jurassic Park, even

though that's probably not even close to fair

given his whole career. But Richard Edinburgh,

Oscar -winning director of Gandhi, died at the

age of 90 following the deaths of Robin Williams

along with Joan Rivers. A lot of people die on

lately. But I don't know, I most remember him

as What was the name of that character in Jurassic

Park? Shoot. The clever girl again. That was

not it. John Hammond. John Hammond, the guy that

was running the park that set up the park in

the original Jurassic Park. I liked him in that

role. Obviously he's played a lot of other things

as well. Do you guys remember him from any film?

That tiny sad clever girl in Jurassic Park. I

probably most remember him from the miracle the

miracle on 30 whatever Street 34th 34th Street,

whatever But it was that was a good movie. It's

also in Hamlet Kenneth Rana's Brando's Hamlet

as well as a whole bunch of other stuff directing

and acting so Losing another individual in the

film industry Joseph Gordon Levitt giving us

a Sandman update Apparently he is currently working

on the script Neil Gaiman's comic Sandman and

he's both producing and directing that ooh fun

Nate What you said fun? I mean, I like the idea

of him branching out and doing more stuff. I

actually I've never read the Sandman I don't

know anything about it He's saying that it's

the same group a lot of the same team that worked

on the Christopher Nolan Batman films. Oh, no

Still well, I guess it's script but Don't know

Matt, what's your familiarity with the Sandman?

I have read the first issue of the original Sandman

It didn't do it for it's like I've read a lot

of Neil Gaiman And I like a lot of his stuff,

but that first issue is Sandman like if that

had been a brand new book I would not have picked

it up, and then you know a year later Everyone

like man you read the Sandman like no that sucked.

Why would you read that? But now here we are.

It's like 12 volumes in and everyone loves it

and yada yada. I don't know I think that the

Nolan verse Batman crew Or at least the feel

of the Nolan verse Batman works better with Sandman

than it does Batman Right. Oh see that that might

be better. Why? I had a question for you not

to interrupt you but As much as much and I don't

I guess I've never asked you guys your specific

opinion on all of the Batman the Nolan Batman

films But as much praise as those films got initially

Both with the characters You know with Batman

the Joker and just the darker feel and you know

more of a serious take and everybody really loved

it It got Oscar attention It seems like there's

an overwhelming disdain for it as years go by.

Is that just me or do I just feel like everyone

always is trying to rip on that even though initially

it was so loved? I have been strong in my opinion

since about a year after Batman Begins came out.

Yeah? Because when I first saw them theaters

I was like, eh, that's not bad. And then like,

all it takes is one viewing and a not 100 % serious,

lights -down setting to realize that there are

a lot of issues in this movie. Which film did

you like the best out of the three? Well, I didn't

even see the third one. Okay. And the second

one I saw about a year after it came out on DVD,

well, when it came out on DVD like a year after

it was out of theaters. And it had been hyped

to the point where it's like it couldn't have

lived up to its expectations. Gotcha. So can

I say none of them? Nate, what was your experience

or what's your opinion on the Nolan films? Well,

my favorite is Inception. No, my favorite is

the first half of The Dark Knight. The Dark Knight,

the first half of The Dark Knight. I get bored

after it. Like I've seen it like three times,

three or four times. And like. After I don't

know the the Joker blows up the hospitals. I'm

like, all right, that was enough for me. I saw

the Joker. I'm done. Like the Joker is really

the only reason to watch that movie. I feel.

But you guys are. I'm not alone that it was very

much hyped at the beginning as being super great.

It was sue. Yeah, like people were just like

you have to see this movie And I think you hear

anybody saying that type of stuff now Or is it

everybody's now kind of getting on your guys's

bandwagon of it's not as great as everyone made

it out to be well I think the issue is We saw

it and then now we're like well that was good,

but It the issue with me is that it's so joyless

Like it doesn't like it doesn't have any fun

No fun. The only parts that are fun are when

the Joker's doing stuff in the second movie.

And then the third movie was so like it wasn't

boring, but it was so just serious and everyone

was being frowny faced. And like, I just kind

of take it like I couldn't get into it because,

you know, of its tone. See, before the Nolan

Batman films, I think a lot of people associated

superhero films with, and I'm not saying this

as though it's a negative, but they associated

them with a degree of campiness, a degree of

maybe cheesiness. That's super negative. Like

it is negative. I say that because I don't have

a better word to describe that. But I mean, that's

kind of how they associated superhero films,

which a lot of people love. A lot of people love

the the fun, you know, humor filled, don't take

yourself too serious type thing or maybe take

yourself serious. But, you know, in a different

vein, I think that's how people associated superhero

films until the Nolan verse came around. And

then people kind of saw more. And I'm talking

about like not maybe not. People that aren't

as familiar with the characters from reading

comics etc and knowing the darker side already

Just kind of your lay, you know, every day Joe

Saw that the Nolan films and kind of took a superhero

film more seriously maybe for the first time

and so it had an effect in that way, but do you

feel like maybe then Marvel coming immediately

in and kind of Barraging us with the fact that

they could do both They could give us the serious

superhero film, but yet still make it fun Humorous

etc and that it was such a barrage of them You

know one film after the other that we kind of

just pushed the Dark Knight stuff up to the side

I think that's it like ever since the Avengers.

It's like that's how you make a superhero movie

now and so looking back The older stuff kind

of because wasn't the Dark Knight Rises was so

like hyped to the point where it was like this

has to be better than the Avengers. Right. Right.

And then it came out at the same time as the

Avengers same year. Right. And it basically got

just. Pushed aside. Yeah, I know. So I think

what it was was before the Dark Knight, they

were making comic book movies that felt like

cartoons and then the Dark Knight happened and

they were super serious. And then Marvel came

and they're making movies that feel like actual

comic books. I kind of found the happy medium.

Yeah. Between the two. I mean, literally, DC

had all of them. It's weird to say this, but

DC had the momentum when it came to superhero

films. Yeah. Oh, totally. You know, not very

long ago. And now that's almost not even a thought.

Like they were big in the 90s. They were big

in the early 2000s, but man, nothing like Marvel

these days. I don't know, Matt, are we way off

in that type of trying to figure out why the

sway has gone away from the Dark Knight films?

No, I think that's fairly accurate. I mean, and

then when you go to the when you say campiness,

like. And if you think about it, like, the Batman

movies have always had a level of campiness,

so yeah, Batman hadn't done himself any favors.

But then even still, like, you think of Daredevil

and Electra, where it's like, there was points

when they were so silly, even unintentionally

so, that they had that feel still. Like, it was

a thing until this Marvel movie universe did

what it's doing. But I don't get how the Warner

Brothers can see all of the money Marvel's making

with every one of these movies. All of them are

huge hits. And they go, you know what? We're

going to copy their success by doing a bunch

of movies. We're going to ignore the fact that

they're funny. No jokes ever. It's like the fact

that they said, look, we were successful with

the Dark Knight films. We can do this again.

And just ignoring the changing landscape that

is society and pop culture and everything. It's

like, no, we did that and it worked once. We'll

do it again. And it'll work again. And it's not

just that Marvel was able to do the funny and

the entertainment entertaining and still stay

somewhat serious. But then look at this year,

they even pushed it further. I mean, Guardians

of the Galaxy is destroying things. Yeah, seriously.

And it was super like tongue in cheek. Like they

they didn't even like care about their continuity

and stuff in the movie. It was like, oh, I was

like, Marvel said we did this. Now we're going

to push it even further. And it's still going

to work. Dude, okay, so I feel terrible Matt.

I believe I'm correct on this, but I might be

wrong Isn't Jeff Johns like one of the bigot

like bigger guys in DC now, and he's like overseeing

the movie aspect of it I Think that's true. He

became continuity editor right a few years ago.

I know He still writes, but I think he mostly

oversees the whole continuity of the comic book

universe. And I think they're having him do the

same thing in the movie universe. Is that just

the continuity stuff or like I thought he was

like in charge of DC Entertainment? I think he's

orchestrating big elements. I don't think he's,

you know, telling people like, well, he might

even go up to the writer of the Batman Superman

movie and be like, make sure these five events

happen. Right. And then things like that or,

you know, make sure you follow. We want these

characters to be like this, but I don't think

he's doing any of the macro stuff that'll make

or break a movie because I was really worried

that he would like he's involved in the decisions

of no jokes and stuff like that. It's like, come

on, Jeff. No, that doesn't sound like Jeff Johns

at all. He's no, I know. Fun writer. That sounds

like Dan Didio. Really? Oh, did Didio himself

said joke books don't sell, we're not doing funny

book comics ever again. No, really? Yeah. Oh,

Dan Didio. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm getting confused

with Paul Dini. I'm sorry. Oh, yeah. No, no.

Dan Didio, who was editor in chief. Is he still

seven, nine years ago? Is he still editor in

chief? I don't think so. OK. He's kind of he's

like hanging out there still still letting DC

take flack for him being on their payroll And

then occasionally writing really bad comic books

really okay, cool, whatever I don't mind Didio,

but He's a cool guy. I mean we you know we saw

him at many panels, and he's an interesting fun

guy Yeah, I dislike his executive decisions right

stemming from all the way back from killing off

night wait well Saying he's gonna kill off Nightwing

to killing off all the super buddies like that

was one thing that really pissed me off He's

like hey funny books don't sell you know those

really popular funny books that we sold I'm gonna

kill each character off individually I'm sorry

Kevin Right I had a point I forgot but never

mind my point is Dan Didio can eat it I'd give

him a hug if I saw him in real life. One of us

is giving him a hug. One of them is telling them

to eat it. No, I'd give him a hug. And tell him

to eat it. Now you need to eat it. Eat this hug.

Oh no. Matt, you love fantasy films. I do. Well,

how about Vin Diesel teasing us? First image

from The Last Witch Hunter at Breck. Eisner director

of the crazies if you guys probably I don't know

if you've seen that film or not a lot of people

loved it Apparently given us a new fantasy adventure

where diesel plays an immortal witch hunter Co

-starring Elijah wood and Michael Cain Matt your

thoughts my thoughts Modern -day witch hunting

right because it says in New York I Don't know

modern fantasy is not the same. I don't quite

know what it's going for It looks interesting

I'll probably want to go see it until I see the

trailer and then maybe we'll see I Never I never

was impressed with anything Vin Diesel's ever

done, but I've also not seen the Riddick movies.

I Haven't either partially because at one point

in my life. I swore off all Vin Diesel films.

No I don't mind him and I think he fits the role

He's supposed to fit very well in movies where

he's like just like a very I'm a kill guy. I'm

Bob shoot shoot Yes, exactly. So I don't fault

him for that. We need action stars. He's a good

one. We can't all be Liam Neeson. True. Also,

I find this article somewhat interesting. There's

been some rumors speculating because Joss Whedon

had filmed some of Avengers Age of Ultron in

South Africa. So a lot of people were saying

that maybe Black Panther would... wind up with

a cameo role in that film, and then Stan Lee

said some things that caught some people's attention

in the last couple weeks, saying that eventually,

this is a quote from Stan Lee, eventually all

the superheroes are going to have their own movies.

They are already working on Ant -Man, Doctor

Strange, and The Black Panther, and there are

others I am not allowed to talk about. So what

about that what about all the superheroes getting

their own movies or what about specifically the

black panther getting? His own solo treatment

film Nate. What do you think um? I don't know.

It's too minis too many movies too many no um

what about Scarlett Johansson What about her?

We're not talking about Scarlett Johansson right

now every time they they say this is gonna be

a new Marvel movie That should be the question.

What about Scott Joe? As far as you guys know

the character probably more than I do. What about

Black Panther would either make him work or not

work in a solo project? Well, he's a stealth

character, so that really... Wow. Now I was gonna

say like that works better in movies cuz then

he can be like sneaking around I guess I'm thinking

of Dungeons and Dragons where it's like you want

your stuff like Boring in a movie to have a guy

just sneaking around for an hour and a half.

No, they made uh No, can't name one. They may

sell will be out next year You know, I don't

know they could make it like Mission Impossible

1 or is it a healthy mixture of sneaking and

fun -funning? I was gonna say like punching and

fighting at the same time and it came out as

funning. That's what funning is from here on

out. Do you think he does a better job as a character

being someone that's a side character to someone

else that's actually carrying the film? No. I

don't know. He's a good member of the Avengers,

but he's not a good buddy guy. He's the king

of Wakanda, which is the number one vibranium

producer in the world, which is the material

that Captain America Shields made out of. He's

really good as a leader role. Which is weird

because it's like you don't need him and cap

although sometimes the two of them together can

be fun I'm just trying to think of all the things

he's done like he didn't join the Illuminati.

He was 100 % against that 100 % I don't know

if he can make a movie about things he didn't

do Wow, he didn't do it like verbally. You can

make a TV show about things you don't do What's

that called? Seinfeld I was gonna say all of

the DC movies, which they're entirely different

cast and not related to the movies No, I think

there's a tagline about Seinfeld being a show

about nothing. That was that was the joke in

the TV show It was a great show. I love Seinfeld.

True. I like Seinfeld more than the Black Panther

Yeah, but the Black Panther is fun like Want

him like they did such a great job with the Falcon

who I would say is about as To me before going

in that movie. He's about the same as the Black

Panther It's like he's a guy who was a part of

the Avengers sometimes But I don't really know

enough about him. I Do know MTV did a Black Panther

cartoon, and it was really bad But it was MTV

doing a Marvel cartoon like what's up with that

Yeah, Marvel cartoons don't fare as well as Marvel

movies. That's just kind of the way it's been.

Except for the 90s stuff was amazing. Well, like

if you look at the whole from beginning to end,

it seems like DC has had a better handle on the

cartoons, whereas Marvel has far outshined other

movies. Especially in the 90s. Yeah. Looking

at sequels, remakes, reboots. We talked about

them a few weeks ago. Wesley Snipes. Apparently

you know how he had said like he would he would

have done things different if he knew what he

knew now well I guess he could put his money

where his mouth is cuz the star is set to return

for the fourth outing of blade I'm so excited

to see him be 51 years old and being blade being

like no I've learned things I saw the Avengers

in theaters once Like, I don't know, man. When

I read that news article three weeks ago, I was

just like, what is this guy thinking? And now

he's going to hit the theaters, and it's like,

yes! Are they going to be able to make him in

continuity? Vampires don't age. Why do you look

like you're 50? The quote in here, just the fact

that he's saying this like it's common knowledge

or like this is exactly true. quote unquote here

from Wesley Snipes. Some of the things we did

in the early parts of the franchise were experimental,

and now they've become customary in a lot of

the Avengers films and other comic book adaptations.

I love it. Like what? It's so delusional. What

is he talking about? Give an example. Back up.

You need facts to back up your crazy things.

I want to know what these experimental things

he did were that Avengers took and did better.

I don't even know. Oh, spinning around shots.

Like, is it is it the cinematography? Is it is

it the pacing? What is it? I don't know. I don't

get it. No, I think this guy's literally lost

his mind. Not even figuratively. I really want

to see Blade four, though. I'm totally down for

that. It's like I really want it to be in continuity

with the Avengers. I want vampires to exist in

the Avengers universe. Oh, it's not made by Marvel,

right? New line cinema. Right. Dang it. So your

dreams are shattered. I'm automatically wrong.

Also in remake reboot news, Charlie Hunnam, who

a lot of people are familiar with apparently,

and I should be because he's been in a lot of

different casting rumors over the last year and

a half, to star in Escape from New York remake,

Snake Plissken. Anybody seen Escape from New

York? I have. Liked it? Yeah. Remake it? No,

no, I'm just kidding. It's super classic um but

an escape from La I Haven't seen that one. That's

a big one, right? Why are you geographically?

Prejudice racist You'll see you escape from New

York, but not LA. Oh, no. I totally would see

both of them. I just I didn't sorry I don't I

don't think I've seen either of them because

I didn't take them serious at the time Dude you

and your seriousness. You're the reasons why

Batman has no jokes Joker Oh Yeah, I don't know

I guess I would have to see the first one to

even have anything remotely sensible to say about

the remake so I guess I can't comment a lot about

I don't I don't know about Charlie Hunnam as

Snake Bliskin, but, you know, he doesn't look

much like Kurt Russell to me. He was in Pacific

Rim, right? He's more like Thor. Yeah, a little

bit. They do. He's a little bit like the other

guy. I don't even remember his name now, but

the guy like the comedy Hemsworth. He's kind

of like Hemsworth. Isn't that what I just said?

Not like Will Ferrell. We're talking. Listen.

I like what Nate talks on the podcast. It makes

me happy. I'm just gonna let him talk for a while.

Go, Nate. I like I really loved Pacific Rim,

but he was definitely not the best part of Pacific

Rim. So I don't know. You got to keep talking.

That's it. You know what the best part is. Let's

talk about hateful hate. What? So you know what

the best part of Pacific Rim was? Dude with the

suspenders and the pompadour and the the yeah,

man mutton chops Dude that guy had a look and

I wish I could have I could have that look think

about what he did in that movie He could have

been completely normal looking Yeah, like there

was no reason for him to look like that and they

did it anyway, and it's nice. That's why I like

that movie so much speaking of Charlie Hunnam

and going into the casting call section. Apparently,

Guy Ritchie's King Arthur, which we talked about

months ago, has found its leading man, and it

will be none other than Charlie Hunnam, taking

the title role in Guy Ritchie's King Arthur film.

Also, along with that, Idris Elba, some type

of mentor to Charlie Hunnam's character. Possibly

Merlin. Possibly Merlin. And then also Elizabeth

Olsen. potentially being the main female lead,

which you could only assume would be Guinevere.

Cool. So some big names being attached to Guy

Ritchie's King Arthur film, which will come to

theaters in two years. I think that guy looks

more like King Arthur than Snake to me. I can

see that. I am not against any of those casting

calls. Me neither. And if you're wondering...

Elizabeth Olson's not afraid to get naked on

camera, so she could totally do Lancelot. Yeah.

What? Oh, do Lancelot. I got it. Do you know

what I just realized? What? We have no business

talking about movies. Also, in casting call,

if you weren't excited about Quentin Tarantino's

hateful eight yet, maybe the addition of Jennifer

Lawrence could excite you. Dude, who that listens

to this podcast is not excited for the hateful

eight. But in the comments, the names were already

tied to it. I knew Samuel L. Jackson was tied

to it just because it's Clinton Tarantino and

Jackson. He's been in every movie since Pulp

Fiction, I believe. But now we have Michael Madsen's

name attached to it. Jennifer Lawrence's name

and. Kurt Russell's name attached to it. I'm

down. I think this film. So far has shown me

nothing that makes me worry about it. Nope Most

anticipated movie of 2015 for me right now Unless

it moves to 2016 then it will be the most anticipated

film of 2016 true that But seriously if you're

if you were like if you're like, uh, no, I'm

not that excited. So whatever Quentin Tarantino

I don't like them. Tell me in the comments and

I'll respond and I'll be mad at you. So I'll

be right teaser trailer. I thought was perfect

Oh, I was like, I need more. Yeah, man. That's

what I need out of a teaser. Something that really

doesn't show me anything, but somehow still gets

me excited about it. Yeah, yeah. It definitely

blew the crap out of that silver shoe for the

Cinderella movie. Hey, I don't care about shoes.

Give me something. Is this one of those jewelry

commercials right before the movie? What's going

on here? No one cares about Mincemoyer. And also,

the Jungle Book. Let's talk about the Jungle

Book. Andy Serkis's Jungle Book, which I guess

is being titled Jungle Book Origins. People being

added to the vocal cast there. Benedict Cumberbatch,

Christian Bale, Cate Blanchett, Naomi Harris.

That's a lot of big names being attached to that

right away. Benedict Cumberbatch playing Shere

Khan, Christian Bale playing the voice of Bagheera,

Kate Blanchett, female version of Ka. I don't

know. I think that's interesting. I think it's

almost more interesting though that the other

one's getting just as big of names. So I don't

know. I don't know what to think of it. The other

one has, you know, Idris Elba, Benedict Cumberbatch.

Wait. Ben Kingsley. Wait, Benedict Cumberbatch

is in both of them. Wait, did I say for both

of them? I think so. OK, no, he is. I'm going

to get them all confused now and. Oh, dude, it's

so hard. OK, here we go. Why don't they just

make one big movie? OK, there's the Disney version.

There's the Andy Serkis version and there's the

Disney version. Yeah, the Disney version, if

I'm getting this right, is. Idris Elba, Scarlett

Johansson, Ben Kingsley, and Lupita Nyong 'o

and Christopher Walken. Whereas the Andy Serkis

one is Benedict Cumberbatch, Christian Bale,

Cate Blanchett, etc. So, I mean. They both sound

good. And like one's see the thing is one's Disney.

That's good. One's Andy Serkis. That's great.

Like, you know. It's going to be weird if they're

the man. Well, there is a version comes out first.

That's going to be October of next year. OK,

then any circuses will be exactly almost a year

later. Oh, see, I thought they were more closer

together. There is a part. What is it? It'll

be crazy if there are two really good jungle

book movies within a year of each other. That'd

be insane. And they both do incredibly well.

And then and then they have sequels made. And

then it's like Like what the heck? Yeah, too

much jungle book getting too hard to follow Another

casting call scoot McNary Does that mean anything

to anybody? He's got a cool name apparently.

He'll be playing the flash and Batman versus

Superman Finally the title they're going with

on that one or are we just still gonna change

the title about 16 times? So yeah, apparently

a casting for the flash even though I am ignorant

and don't know who scoop McNary is because he's

probably from a television show that I don't

watch It's probably some on the CWs The sea does

not the sea W's the flash TV show because they

have one of those so so wait We're gonna get

like introductions of the flash Aquaman cyborg

Wonder Woman All in the same film dude, it's

gonna be one scene It'll be like that scene in

Amazing Spider -Man where they're just walking

by will we even see the flash or will it just

be like a windblow Yeah, they'll have to credit

the actor's appearance of flash. You just didn't

see him, right? That's great. Also, Dwayne Johnson,

the rock, making big news late this last week.

Yes. Confirming that he will play Black Adam

in DC's Shazam. I feel like I've been wanting

this since like 2005 or something like, oh, man,

finally. And now. Tweet from the rock. If you're

not following the rock, it's at the rock because

that wasn't taken yet. Quote, kneel at his feet

or get crushed by his boots. My honor to become

hashtag Black Adam. That's awesome. Like he fits

him like he fits him in look perfectly. Yeah,

dude. I am 100 percent there. We all agreed when

they were like, hey, he's going to play somebody

like Black Adam. Yeah. And he also had the hashtag

tweet in that same one, the antihero. Yeah, that's

kind of weird, because he like ripped people

apart. Well, that was like it was totally in

defense of his country, and he was sort of like

the hero of his country. Yeah. Is he altogether

bad in the comics or is he totally super bad?

Totally bad. So it'll be interesting to see how

exactly they adapt that to the screen and what

direction they go with that but after the rock

pulled off Hercules I'm game for him doing anything

The thing is if they introduce them in with Superman

and they have Superman fight them they actually

have someone that can go actually toe -to -toe

with Superman because Black Adam is a magical

user and Superman is weak versus magic, which

a lot of people don't know. So that's cool. It's

true. So if they need a reason to get rid of

Superman so that it makes the story more interesting,

they can use Black Adam. More grim dark. More

grim dark. So if the audience testing of Superman

be Batman, Batman be Superman, if people don't

like Superman, you're saying they got a way to

write them out. Well, they have a way to. Occupy

his time so that the other more interesting characters

can do things gotcha. Oh, that's what you meant

by that Not like isn't kill the character off.

No Although I mean, you know, they're not gonna

have doomsday in this are they like that'd be

retarded They're gonna have every single character

ever to Last casting call news Margot Robbie.

I don't know if you guys didn't see Wolf of Wall

Street, correct? No, I haven't yet. Okay Well,

if anyone has seen that, that's where they would

recognize this individual from. And apparently

she is tapped to star in a Ghost in the Shell

DreamWorks remake. Cool. First of all, did anyone

know that DreamWorks was doing a Ghost in the

Shell remake? No. Did not know that they were

going to make a live action version of Ghost

in the Shell. And what do you think of that prospect

just in general? Well, I think we've got the

technology now to do it I don't think they're

gonna do it close enough to the original to even

warrant it because a major part of the original

is that she wears clothing almost none of the

time because She has the ability to make herself

go invisible I think by hacking everyone around

her brain, but she can't do clothes So like I

think actually in the opening sequence of the

original Movie she's like she jumps off of a

rooftop and strips naked as she's falling so

that she's invisible by the time she hits the

ground So yeah, I don't see them doing that aspect

to it, so I don't know quite like that's automatically

changing a really major part of the movie But

I Liked it so maybe I'll go see it if they make

it I just don't trust them to do it right. Fair

enough. I don't trust DreamWorks to do most things

right. Except How to Train Your Dragon. That's

about it. They got that and very few other things

that I would bother watching of theirs currently.

It's been a while since we've talked about trailers

so there's quite a few so we're not going to

hit every single one. Also this is usually Notable

time of the year where we get bombarded with

horror films and Halloween style or Type of movies

and I know Matt and I are not necessarily the

largest fans of those types of films So if I

were a fan I might be the largest cuz I'm fat

So obviously there's the devil's hand and Amityville

the awakening and Quite a few. We what is it?

How do you say that? Weegee? Weegee. Weegee.

There's a lot of that type of stuff coming out.

Nate, I know you like that stuff a little bit

more. Did you? You didn't see any of the trailers

for that. You saw some of those live in person

at a movie, didn't you? I think so. I don't remember

very well. That's OK. We'll forget. Whatever.

Like the thing is, I usually only ever watch.

scary movies if I hear that it's good. Like I

never like go blind to a scary movie because

that is like so many scary movies come out, especially

around this time of year. And it's not it's like

it. They're all the same. You're going to get

your jump scare. And it's like whatever. But

if something like actually comes out and it's

like, well, this was actually terrifying and,

you know, this actually has a really good story,

then, you know, that sounds cool. Fair enough

the there was actually a couple of things you

actually did leave in that were scary movies

the the one about the the doll That was like

the Conjuring prequel Do you remember that did

you watch that one? I think it was called was

it sibling. Oh, no, I didn't did not No, no,

it's a bling is based on something right is Annabelle

Annabelle is like like that one makes me sad

Because it's like it's okay creepy doll. We've

seen that all the time Like every time we've

seen creepy doll I don't know III always watch

the the good ones like in November because I've

heard that they're right I probably won't see

a single horror movie in theaters This this year,

but I can't remember the last time I saw a horror

film in theaters. I know I think It was a movie

called straw dogs That was had to be four years

ago, maybe I'm just gonna mention the two trailers

that that jumped out at me that seemed somewhat

interesting to me And then I'll let you guys

talk about any of them seem interesting to you

because most of these I just didn't do it for

me white bird in a blizzard I guess the savvy

part of me wants to see where that goes It's

got a few people that I'm interested in as far

as the cast goes You got that cricket is getting

super loud It's got a of acres Thomas Jane Angela

Bassett, Chris Maloney, playing with Ava Green

even though they both just appeared in Sin City

2 together, and Shailene Woodley. So it's an

interesting cast. I'm not sure what to make of

the trailer, so I guess I'll hold judgment and

give it a shot as more stuff comes out. And then

the other one would be Saint Vincent, which at

the beginning of the year had a much longer name.

And that would be the the next film that we will

be seeing from Bill Murray Yes, and did you guys

have a chance to see that trailer at all Nate?

Yeah, totally and I'm down for that one. Yeah,

didn't even feel like a trailer Yeah, what did

it feel like to you? It felt like hey, here's

a minute from a movie real quick. It looks like

fun Yeah, yeah, I think it was originally like

st. Vincent of something like I've had a longer

title, but Bill Murray Melissa McCarthy I Don't

know it's Terrence Howard Chris Adaud and Amy

Watts Anything with Bill Murray. I'll probably

watch and give a shot. So I'm interested in that

one. What about you guys? What what trailers

jumped out at Janate? Nothing jumped out of my

Nate Nightcrawler Definitely looks cool. I'm

excited about that one Jake Gyllenhaal being

all creepy Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

So that one was getting a lot of buzz, too Yeah,

so that's a study men women and children with

Adam Sandler in it and Adam Sandler barely I

don't think he said a word in the trailer, but

Hey, it's Adam Sandler not doing a comedy where

he goes on vacation. So that's a cool thing What

else was there horrible bosses to correct? Horrible

bosses to looks like a lot of fun, and I'm surprised

I haven't seen more trailers using Turned down

for what? And because it's like it's like a right

man. It's a perfect trailer because it's got

the drops and it's got the silence and it's got

the comeback. Like it's perfect for trailers.

It was designed for trailers and I haven't seen

that in too many trailers. But the but the actual

movie looks pretty funny and I love Charlie Day

and then Seventh Son still looks pretty good.

Want to see that? Outcast that's the one with

with Nicolas Cage and Anakin Skywalker. Oh, yeah,

and That looks silly as I don't I don't have

high hopes, but I want to see it Oh looks it

looks like it's gonna be so bad. It really does.

Oh, I want to see it. So yeah That um, and I

think that's about it for oh horns. I totally

watch horns Yeah, whatever he's turning to a

demon. It's cool. Yeah, it's fun He's in the

Halloween spirit Matt. What did you think about

all the different trailers you watch? Yeah, do

the I want to see the Nick K. Janik and Skywalker

for two reasons one. It just looks ridiculous

Yeah, it's just like yeah, no I saved this Like

was he like Japanese Prince. He's supposed to

be Emperor I'm gonna go take him to Nick Cage,

that'll be cool. Like, no one's gonna accept

that guy when he returns. But, uh, and also Nick

Cage is not gonna teach that one kid how to fight

off an entire army so he can even get to the

throne room. It's just, like, conceptually ridiculous.

Two, I wanna see if Hayden Christensen can act

at all. Yeah, what was the last movie he was

in? Part of me thinks it might be him, and part

of me thinks it might have been just bad direction.

It's really hard to tell with those prequel movies.

Yeah. Um... So part of me wants to see it just

to see if he can act I've heard I've heard Who

was the actor that we decided could have easily

played that role almost identically to Joaquin

Phoenix? Yeah way better Maybe we can see him

acting Also what? Automata? Automata? It looks

like closer to the iRobot book written by Isaac

Asimov than the iRobot movie which had nothing

to do with it, right? I can't believe how they

fucking botched that 100%. 100%. I would be a

lot more interested in that film if it didn't

contain the casting of Antonio Banderas. Yeah,

yeah. I don't know. I mean, he's too sexy. Yeah,

I guess. He's too sexy! You asked what Hayden

Christensen has done lately. It's been nothing.

He hasn't done a film since 2010. Alright, cool.

The last one that was probably... At least watched

by a few people Though at least the last one

I remember would be jumper back in 2008 which

was in that Yeah, and he was also in takers in

2010 Yeah, he hasn't hasn't done much since 2005

when he left the set of Revenge of the Sith,

right? Yeah, I can see why though that movie

No, that movie is not bad Well the whole the

the second one is the worst. I think we all can

agree I don't know man like they're all Watchable,

they're not nearly as bad as everyone made them

out to be it was a lot of hype problems That

said I don't know which one is the best of them.

I like the third one I kind of like the first

one like I like the first and second one for

different reasons Yeah, but I like the third

one better than both of them That I guess is

a whole debate for another day Any other ones

that jumped out at you Matt? Nope All right.

Well, then we're gonna take a quick break and

we'll be right back to talk about the main attraction

And I'm gonna try to kill this cricket Just another

Saturday night Power is a fragile thing staring

me up how much I love you. Dwight, is that you?

What I gotta do... She owns me. She was an angel.

When she wishes it, we die. One of these days

she'll pull the trigger. It's a good game. in

cities where you go in with your eyes open. Or

you don't come out at all. Sin City 1 and Sin

City 2, Damed to Kill 4. That's the right title,

right? Damed to Kill 4. But before that, any

other films that we have seen in the last few

weeks since our last record? I know we watched

a pair of films on this past Friday. I'm trying

to think of what we watched the Friday before

that. Or was that Sin City 1 that we watched

two weeks ago? Might've just been Sin City. Okay,

and then last Friday we watched two films. Oh,

we watched Eagle vs. Shark. Oh, that's right.

We also watched Eagle vs. Shark. Oh, you guys

were watching that when I got home. I wanted

to talk about that. You want to talk about that?

Yeah, I do. Go for it. So, Nate and I watched

Eagle vs. Shark. It stars Jermaine Clement and

some woman from New Zealand. I think that is

the only thing she's ever done. I don't know.

Ultimately, it's essentially if you were to turn

Napoleon Dynamite into a romcom, it's about this.

Oh, man. Yeah. Kill it. It's about it's about

this really awkward guy, a Napoleon Dynamite

and this girl who falls in love with him. And

while watching it, it was one of the most awkward

movie experiences I've had in a long time. Because

you almost just can't feel for the guy And you

just feel sad for the girl who's in love with

him and like that's the whole movie. Yeah seems

rather depressing um I've been thinking about

especially today in particular We're at work.

I had a conversation with a guy about Forrest

Gump And he said Forrest Gump is a movie about

a guy who gets shit on all of his life and loves

a woman who hates him Or just treats him like

shit and then at the end she gets AIDS And I

was like that's that's a pretty cynical look

of that movie And then the more I think about

it the more I'm like, you know what? No that

guy he had ups and downs It wasn't just his life

shitty like he was a millionaire at one point

like he was huge and I think like that's kind

of how I thought about Eagle versus shark at

first or it's like man this woman has a terrible

life and she likes this guy that doesn't really

appreciate her and it's just like But the more

I think back on it, the more I like that movie.

Yeah, I just I like the movie. I just have an

issue with the ending, which I won't spoil. But

yeah, no, I like when I when I first got over

at the end of it, I was like right there with

Nate. And now I don't know if they needed like

I think if they change the ending, I'd feel better

leaving the theaters or ending the Netflix. But

like, I don't know if it made it a better movie.

I think it made me feel better. Yeah. No, I think

it would make it a better movie, honestly, but

you know, like like so little, little few or

so few of our listener base has watched this

movie. So it's kind of fun to talk about the

ending without actually spoiling it. Yes. But

it'll be pretty obvious if you watch it and it's

on Netflix. So yeah, watch it. If you don't mind

being awkward for a little bit, you might you

might feel like you wasted an hour and a half,

but we're sorry. I don't know. I'm not sorry.

OK. And then this past Friday, I know the second

film we watched was The Town, but what was the

first film we watched? The Man with the Iron

Fists. Oh, yeah. The Man with the Iron Fists.

We watched that one. Yeah, we did do that. I

think they mean Rubber Fists. That film was all

kinds of things and some of the things it shouldn't

have been. Like it felt like it could have been

a different film with some minor variations done

by Matthew Fridley And and it would have turned

it into a better film. I Don't know. There was

so many factions that we had like the wolves

and the hyenas and the tigers and the lions the

rats and the rabbits The crickets, I mean we

have Gemini twins. Yeah, the Gemini twins were

the best thing about that movie. They were cool

That movie is worth it just for that scene and

then shut it off. No. Well, yeah, I mean, that's

the that's the climax of the movie for me. Halfway

into the movie, Gemini twins kicking some ass,

taking some names, and then it all kind of went

downhill once what you call it got his iron fist.

Yeah, it went down a little before then. But

yeah, definitely. I mean, I did not want him

to be the star of that film. He has no charisma

and had nothing to do with him being the only

African American in the film He was not in that

he was like a shadow character that was showed

up for about a minute every ten scenes which

is hours hour and a half Mm -hmm, and then he

was the titular character that had to be the

winner at the end That's the problem. He was

like just this like little shadowy scene guy

that was kind of progressing certain plot elements

or interacting with our main characters. And

they were setting up all these other characters

that were so much cooler. And they were like

building them up, building them up so that we

got a climax that didn't include two of them.

Like, I felt cheated. Also, like, there was like...

Oh, Batista was in it. Yeah, I was gonna say,

that's the one thing this film did was launch

Batista's movie career. Which I love to be able

to say because he's been in three movies now

One a year since 2013 No, I guess he was banking

on the Guardians and now he doesn't have to do

ever anything ever again Yeah, did he get he

could just not do movies. Well, he could he could

do Guardians 2 and then be like, yeah That's

it. Yeah, they paid me enough. I'm done. What

was the best and worst thing about this film?

probably Russell Crowe Oh, I forgot about Russell

Crowe is the best thing other another character

that this film could have centered on instead

of guy with any of them. But we had we had Russell

Crowe. We had all of the actual martial artists,

guys. We wanted so hard. Yeah, Lou. It really

wanted to be a Quentin Tarantino movie, and it

just didn't. Yeah. Yeah. They're also the dialogue

was all over the place. Yeah, that is so really

bad. Dialogue is like. Epic dialogue followed

by gangster dialogue. Yeah wrapping along the

way I Don't know I mean this don't seen it the

film had some great scenes and great sequences

Had some good ideas along the way It was just

like filled in between those cool scenes with

nothing. Yeah, it just wasn't executed well yeah,

but If you're a fan of that type of film, you

should probably check it out. Really? I don't

even know if I'd go that far. As a big fan of

kung fu movies, I would not suggest this movie

to anyone. But if you're a big fan of kung fu

movies, should you at least have knowledge of

this film? You should listen to this podcast.

Should you at least see the Gemini twins? Yeah,

you can look those up on YouTube if you want.

Yeah, look up the scene with the Gemini twins

watch that five or ten minutes and That's the

best you get there. That's judge it on that and

then you'll unfairly think it's a good film All

right, then we did we did any you guys see anything

else Before we get into sit -in -city discussion.

I've seen another film. We didn't talk about

the town at all Oh, yeah the town the second

film we saw then Matt's been on Quest as of recent

in history of watching heist films Getting suggestions

from people about which heist films to see I

know you watched heat you watched Usual suspects.

Yeah, and what was the one that it took me forever

to watch? Wait it took you for oh the art of

the steel art of the steel You watch some older

school ones too, right or not? Yeah, the original

oceans 11 with the rat pack I've watched probably

10 or 15 this year alone. Heat? Yeah, we mentioned

Heat already. Knowing that... Reservoir dogs,

yeah, just a bunch. And just knowing that and

having the town sitting on our stack of films

to watch, I wanted Matt to see that, to kind

of see where he would place that amongst the

group. Obviously not necessarily your most light

-hearted... Turn your brain off and just have

some fun type of film. I mean, it's it's pretty

serious. I guess Very serious very serious Matt.

What did you think? It's having seen all these

heist films and then watching this one. What

were your impressions? Um Well, it clearly draws

on a lot of the ones that came before it especially

heat But I think in many ways it improves upon

the idea like I Really enjoyed the town like

it did a lot of things that I really like It

avoided some things, too, that I don't like.

Oh, yeah? What were you thinking? Well, I mean,

I just like some of the unneeded little plot

points that a lot of people throw in there. There

wasn't necessarily, like, yeah, there is, you

know, love story and our love interests, so to

speak, but they didn't, like, go so far that

it became more of a part of the movie than it

needed to be. Yeah, it was totally like... The

love interest was part of the whole heist thing.

It was like, this is a necessary element to one

of the heists. It made it feel a little more

natural in the way they handled it, maybe? Yeah,

totally. So I like that it didn't go to some

of those aspects, and it didn't... I don't know,

occasionally there's some of those films where

you're just like... come on, they couldn't possibly

survive that, or that's unbelievable that that

guy killed that many people or got out of that

situation, so to speak. And in this one, I felt

like it somewhat kept a tone of believability

in the fact that not everyone's getting out of

every situation. Yeah, it really took that sort

of, at least in my opinion, from heat. I would

say goes so far as to say There's a seed Seen

towards like the second the last third of heat

towards the beginning of the last third and towards

the end of the town Like actually I probably

the last third of both of those movies are very

similar I can see connections for sure You also

had some some great some great shots of the different

masks that they wore towards the first half of

the film It's not a spoiler. This film's been

out for a while. But the scene where they got

the nuns mask on and they're looking at the little

kid on the side of the street. That's just crazy.

Yeah, it's that that choice for the nuns is like

like so iconic, like if you see a nun costume

like that, you'll think of the town. Yeah, I

don't know if I don't know if it'll be like as

iconic as other movies, but. It's it's a good

choice to have those I agree Matt you said that

Possibly improved on some of the elements of

heat As you look back on all the different heist

films you've seen how does it stack up like where

did it? Where does it stack up amongst them all

I? Would put it probably in my top five definitely

above heat like Don't know this is what I love

about heist movies is they can be done So differently

like to the point where it's like really hard

to compare because it's hard to compare say the

usual suspects to the art of the steel to Reservoir

dogs, it's like one of those ultra serious one

of those incredibly campy like Yeah, I and but

all of them, you know have these elements that

are very clear and easy to follow and They you

know, even when they turn it up a little bit

or turn it to a side. It's still the same concepts

but uh, I mean it's Seen what have you seen the

movie bandits? I don't think so bandits is a

film that you'll either love or you'll hate But

it's a Bruce Willis and Billy Bob Thornton play

a pair of bank robbers. I'm sorry, that just

randomly popped into my head. But continue your

thought, sorry. No, it's fine. I would love to

see this movie. Those are both good actors. Yes.

So yeah, I don't know, man. I would recommend

it. In fact, I went to a guy at work. Who had

suggested heat heat was the number one suggested

movie by a lot? I went to one of the guys that

had suggested heat and he and I talked about

it after we watched it and I was like have you

heard have you seen the town he's like yeah,

I love the town we talked about it and I was

like yeah, it's better So yeah, I would definitely

thumbs up recommend this more than I think every

other movie we watched out of theaters Hmm Nate

what about you? How did you like it the same

level or what did you think? I know it was kind

of super serious super intense I Really enjoyed

it Okay It was really intense my girlfriend Amy

had to leave the room Probably within ten minutes

of the movie because she did not need that Like

it was stressing her out or whatever I will say

there it is not a perfect film No, not that that

exists, and I don't think it needs to be I will

point out that there is a specific scene that

I still don't know why it was necessary to have

in the film I guess they were trying to show

another level of the Temper and the violent streak

in one of the characters I really don't I I was

so confused by the end of that movie why that

scene was even in there but there is at least

one scene if you really kind of look back and

try to like dissect the film that doesn't necessarily

like if you were looking at deleted scenes and

that was one of them you'd be like oh i understand

why that was deleted because it really has nothing

to do with the film yeah totally so i'm not sure

exactly what the reasoning to keep that scene

in the film and what it they thought it added

to the film um but it's it's a film where there's

enough going on where you just kind of like Bypass

the scene I guess and you don't really I mean

you're in the back of your head You might be

asking yourself what the point of that was but

it doesn't necessarily take away from what's

going on It just adds something we already knew

about the character, I guess Nate any other thoughts

about the town? No, you guys covered it super

thoroughly. That's what we try to do here weekend

at the movies The Nate, did you see any other

film in the past? It's a bunch. All right, go

for it. You see more films than all of us. Yeah,

which is weird for me to say. I saw the Fast

and the Furious, the first one. I'm sorry. Yeah,

this movie is insane because it's about cars.

It's literally about like like the main character

was not Paul Walker and Vin Diesel. The main

characters were the cars. That's good because

cars can't die. No, oh that was a Paul that was

a real -life death not an in -movie death Before

you know we're good. We're going to elicit one

of our first Direct comments to our podcast from

tfg1 Mike on this one because he is in love with

the fast and the furious franchise So please

a little it Well, okay, so they had okay, I don't

know anything about cars at all like I hate cars

They're like they're like annoying things that

break down and then they ruin your day I know

I like that's that's what a car is to me it gets

you places But it'll probably break down. You'll

be mad at it in the world right now So so then

like like they have all these hilarious shots

and they're hilarious only probably to me because

Because they're like, Whoa, look at this car.

And you're like, that's a car. And OK. And it's

just like, OK, fine. There's cars. We get it.

Move on. You know, like all the characters like

like like the like the people in the movie were

so stupid and like reprehensible. A guy called

a guy called another guy the f word, like f a

word, not the f u word. But he called him that

like, like the way that Eminem would say it.

And it was just like, oh, come on. No one talks

like that, really. But people do, apparently.

So trying to figure out what the f u word and

the f a word are. Well, think about it. I didn't

want to say that word. You can believe me if

you want. It's a word. I'm not going to censor

the English language. All right, fine. And that's

it. All right. All right. We got it. We got it.

We got it. So so like it was it was so bad. So

are you going to watch the rest of the series?

I hear it gets really good by like the eighth

or ninth one. I don't know. That is what people

say that just are trying to find a way to defend

their love for something that is absolutely nonsensical.

Like I hear it goes, I hear it goes off the rails

into like this like super spy supercar. And then

it has a terrible movie. Apparently the Tokyo

Drift gets ripped on. Right. Revo. So, yeah.

And then it comes back and it's all right. But

like number five, like they tear a bank vault

out with Dodge Chargers. Yeah. Those things can't

even pull a trailer, let alone a like 10 ton

bank vault. But fuck, yeah, man. Dude, like the

thing is - Doesn't it not become a car about

cars? Isn't it like helicopters and planes and

shit? Yeah, well, it's - Hey, the movie isn't

called The Car and the Carious. The helicopters

can be faster than cars, so that's more fast.

And airplanes are furious. Yeah, but seriously

though, like - It was so bad. And the thing is,

like, I should care a little bit more about cars

now that my job is 90 % car ads. I make car ads

all day. Oh, that's gonna make me care about

cars less. Oh, seriously. Like, I can't stand

cars. I'm with you 100%. But Matt, defend the

movie so people don't hate us forever. Have you

seen this? I saw. Yeah, I saw it when it was

new. All right, fine. How was it back in 2001?

No, no, I saw it when it was new. And I think

I have subconsciously blocked it from my memory

because I couldn't tell you a thing about it.

Yeah, I have a shitty memory. So being like,

I saw a movie 15 years ago means almost nothing.

But I can say that as a 15 years ago, right,

roughly when it came out, I would have been like

12. So like, I enjoyed it. It was weird to me

to be like, we're going to give this cop this

really expensive car. We're going to trick it

out and we're not going to train him how to drive

it at all. And then he'll fucking bust the shit

out of some street racing. Yeah, I just miss

the attraction, I guess, that all the different

elements like this film attracts the. People

that aren't me. I guess I don't even know how

to say it like all the different aspects of this

film like none of them appeal to me Yeah, I don't

know. I do want to see The crazier ones that

are apparently come later, but whatever I watched

it Just do me a favor Nate go ahead and watch

all those and then report back to me on if I

should ever waste any time with us All right.

I'll catch you up. So like It'll be like watching

like you'll start at like the second season of.

Yeah, like every week, give us a new update on

the Fast and Furious franchise. I'm sure you'll

be able to do that for the rest of the year.

They're making that fast. We'll let them have

Need for Speed as well. Yeah, you can do all

the genre. Just fill us in on that. Matt has

the heist genre. You have the street racing.

I don't want this street racing genre. It's like

he drew the wrong. You are the envy of all of.

the people here at Weekend at the Movies. All

three of us. What other films have you seen?

I finally saw The Terminator 2. Yeah, that is.

Yeah, it is almost unforgivable. I know. I'm

sorry. You use the phrase I find. Hey, OK. Yeah.

Well, when I grew up, my mom wouldn't probably

let me watch that movie because it's bad because

there's. Here's the problem. The problem is that

it took you until the ripe old age of of. 20

something. I was very busy in college. No, no,

no. But because it took you so long to watch

it, I feel like you're never going to have the

appreciation that all of us have for that film,

seeing it when things were much different in

the world. Dude, I super appreciate that movie.

That movie was incredibly entertaining. OK. There's

nothing wrong with that movie. There's nothing

wrong. Now, let's not get carried away. What?

No, what was your like? I know you said it was

good and whatnot, but like, what was your honest

opinion after you saw it? Like, give me give

me some details. What did you think? Why did

you think it was good? What was bad? The action

was a lot of fun. The acting was great, except

for our source in here. What do you want? He's

a robot. He doesn't need to act. They found the

way around it. Right. I really liked the choice

of having the bad guy be the cop and the good

guy be the guy that you thought was the bad guy

in the first one. Like, I understand that, like,

we know the Terminator as the, like... If I'm

not mistaken, is Judgment Day more... Like people

like Judgment Day better than the first one.

It's the best of all four, right? So like, you

know, you know that he's a good guy in that one

But like when I understand like when when you

first saw the movie you didn't know and you're

like, oh my god He's gonna kill him, right? But

then it turns out he's a good guy and then the

cop turns out to be the bad guy and that's super

cool Of course, it's super cool Like I think

it was well written great action Super entertaining.

There's not too much wrong with that movie. It's

it's I mean, other than like the effects of the

goo was kind of, you know, it's 90s CG. So whatever

at the time. Yeah. You got no problem with it.

What other films did you see, sir? I saw the

night at the museum to. Two or three, you know,

two or three is out is three out. Three is this

year. I think yeah, it's coming out soon. Um,

that's Robin Williams. I don't know I watched

it while I was doing other things. What's that?

I was making a joke of what Kevin said They're

not terrible movies at all. No, I don't yeah,

they're they're they're pretty fun. It's right

and Amy Adams plays Amelia Earhart in that movie

and she's super cool. She does that. Well, she's

alright. She's fun to watch usually So, um, yeah,

I don't know. It's good. Like kids movies. Some

are really bad, but some are decent and then

some are amazing. And this one is decent. I don't

know. I don't got much to say on that one. I

watched it while I was cleaning. Yeah, this is

the first ever weekend at the movies that we

were actually doing outside around a campfire

Yeah Trying to keep away the mosquitoes, but

luckily we have this cricket to help us out Did

you see any other films Nate? Yeah And they'll

never end I saw the adventures of 1010 again,

I watched that again Did you watch that with

Kevin? No. No, I just watched it by myself. I

was not invited to that. Was that in the stack

for you, or was that in the stack for him to

watch? That's in the stack for Kevin to watch.

Oh, OK. But he just has watched it multiple times

since he put it in the stack. Nice. I like it.

It's a good... It stays incredibly true to the

original storyline of the comic. Oh, you read

the comic? No, but I just know this stuff. No.

No, I mean, I'm not trying to say that like oh,

I've read all the guys I'm just saying I know

that it is true to the storyline So if you care

about that Matt, I know you do that's the thing

I care about Yeah, and it's it's it's like half

written by Steven Moffat, so that's cool. He's

a good guy He's a good writer So I don't know

I liked it a lot the the CG in it is like is

like polar express levels of weird sometimes

um But you know it's not too distracting. It's

not as distracting as a polar express Okay, hold

on I'm gonna try to kill again. Oh, no, you're

the only one who needs to talk right now All

right, anyway on air Okay, so anyway, um, no

ten ten super fun super Like really? adventurous

it's a movie where they there's like pirates

and you know, we know and they likes it. Oh,

it's fun. I Don't know. It's like he's a reporter

and he's trying to find him solve a mystery and

it's just super fun Yeah, that one scene where

they're like flowing through that town and there's

like a tank involved. Yep. Oh great. Great scene.

Yep. Yep. I saw in theaters. I'm totally down

with Nate. Yeah, I'm down with Nate. What's next

on the list? Hot fuzz. It's the second in the

what do they call it? Oh, geez, I don't remember.

But it's a Simon Pegg movie. There's three of

them, and in each one they eat an ice cream cone,

and it's called the Ice Cream Cone Trilogy. But

it's not called the Ice Cream Cone Trilogy. But

no, it's the cop one, where he's like the best

cop in the world, and he goes to this really

shitty town. And it is so well -made. It's not

the funniest comedy I've ever seen, but it's

one of the best. Movies ever I don't know is

the funniest comedy you've ever seen That I've

laughed the most that is not the funniest comedy

you've ever seen which implies I think and and

comedies are weird because at the time like I'll

laugh at a movie and Be like dude. This was really

funny, and then other people watch it, and they'll

be like no. It's not I'm like yeah Well, it was

funny when I watched it that one time, but I

understand why it's not that funny right now

Um you're just stalling Am kung -pao enter the

fist probably the funniest damn movie ever saw

in theaters. I literally There was probably a

time if you have you seen this movie Matt or

Kevin no Yeah, when I was like 14 okay, shut

up Matt. I don't care. We just want to say Because

you're probably gonna be like it's not that funny.

I watched this movie in theaters and about 20

minutes in maybe I started laughing and I I couldn't

stop I literally like couldn't stop until the

end of the movie What I'd like to be there to

see that no it was it was ridiculous I was with

my friend and from high school and we went and

like I think it was just it was just about the

moment like we were in the moment and we were

laughing at the stupid movie and we fully understood

that it was stupid but we understood that it

was amazing at the same time and we there was

like two other people in the audience and they

probably were really mad at us because we would

not stop laughing um that's probably the most

i ever laughed at a movie uh no it's actually

andy oh i don't even know andy andy brown Yeah,

fine now they can look us up because Andy Brown

is the most generic name ever That's it man,

that's the one but no hot fuzz go watch that

movie Kevin you need to see hot fuzz. It was

in the stack I took it out just to watch it,

but I need to see all those because I haven't

seen any of them Yeah, I don't know if I've ever

seen a Simon Pegg film from beginning to end

No, you've never seen Shaun of the Dead. No wait,

cuz we watched the world's end No, we didn't.

You watched this by yourself and think that everyone

was there. None of us were there. Are you serious?

We watched This is the End. We didn't watch World's

End. Anyway, I probably saw more films than this,

but I sure as heck can't remember them. But I

remember one specifically that I watched, and

you guys have to forgive me for watching it without

you, but I could wait no longer. And as soon

as I watched it, I was needing you guys to watch

it as well. So, I saw Snowpiercer. Damn it! I

was gonna say, don't say Snowpiercer. But, I

will watch it again and you guys have to watch

it now because I really want your opinion on

this film. For you guys out there that don't

know what Snowpiercer is, I think technically

it was released somewhere, like maybe at a festival

in 2013, but I think it's Why are they considered

a 2014 film? And it stars Chris Evans, and the

guy that played the priest in Count of Monte

Cristo, which most people refer to him as, what,

the original Dumbledore? Wait, no, the original

Dumbledore died. Okay, the second Dumbledore?

He played something in Harry Potter, did he not?

Don't know but he's the priest from a condiment

of crystal Chris Evans and a variety of other

people but it's basically a Futuristic setting

in which a chemical has been released that has

basically frozen the world and the only living

Inhabitants of earth are on this very high -tech

Super design train and you can't basically survive

outside of this train. And the train is basically

built in a class system, so to speak, whereas

the most important people are near the front

of the train and have a much easier life than

the, I guess, lower class people at the tail

of the train. And it has a lot to do with social

order, etc. I really enjoyed this film. It's

somewhat brutal at times. There are a couple

scenes here and there where it's hard to watch

for someone like me, because I don't like to

see too much blood and guts and that type of

stuff. Not that you see a ton of it, but there

are a few moments where I was like, I don't really

want to see what happens right here. But overall,

I really enjoyed it. And to me, and I'm gonna

kind of I guess segue into what we'll talk about

maybe a little bit later with the credit conversation

but there was definitely a message being put

out in this film but I felt like it wasn't as

strong -handed as we get in some films and to

me this is the more appealing way to send across

a message covered in a film rather than what

we got with Under the Skin. It's really weird

to try to compare these two movies because they're

really nothing alike. But I'm saying like in

the fact that they're both making social commentary,

they're both trying to ask, give us questions

and pose questions to us that we can debate and

that we can think about ourselves. But the difference

is this one's doing it in an entertaining fashion.

I'm sure some people could probably rip this

apart. Some people could probably nitpick it

away and question a lot of the science and the

physics and the reality to make this a, you have

to suspend some of your hold on how things happen

and what's realistic and what's not realistic,

I guess, maybe to enjoy this film. But if you

can do that, I think you'll find it very entertaining

and just as deep and just as complex as any film

like Under the Skin. but at the same time something

that doesn't bore you ever. So I'm really looking

forward to you guys seeing it and getting your

opinions on it, which may very much differ than

what my opinions of it were. I think I like this

film even more than movie revolt Dan did. He

did say some good things about it, but I'm not

thinking he liked it quite as much as I did.

He definitely didn't like it as much as he liked

Under the Skin. That's true. That is very true

and we'll get to more under the skin talking

a little bit. Um, okay. What why is that? Yeah,

that's what this podcast is because we had some

comments Nate remember the But first if we don't

address the comments, it just looks like we got

yelled at and then didn't do the podcast for

a month Before we get to that we got to talk

about Sin City today wait, yeah, go ahead I watched

a movie. Oh yeah. We talked about the other films

that we talked about on Fridays and you didn't

pipe up, man. I was not ready. You asked Nate

specifically. I tried to get Nate to talk because

otherwise he doesn't talk. So you and I talk.

We talk. Although Nate talks pretty heavily.

It was great. So I watched Char's Counterattack.

For those of you not in the know, it's an anime

movie. Uh, set in the Gundam UC universe. I specifically

watched this because my friends and I, um, as

a release celebration for Gundam Unicorn, the

newest UC Gundam series, we watched every Gundam

anime in the UC from, uh, chronologically from

beginning to end. That had to take a while. Yeah,

we planned about six months in advance and Actually

moving target. We are going to start unicorn

right as episode 7 came out We ended up being

about three weeks four weeks off because of people

being sick or whatever Yeah, it took a long time,

but it's great. I love the Gundam UC stuff. The

non -universe stuff is a little more ridiculous,

especially if you get into like G Gundam, where

a guy can like pick up a building and throw it

at a Gundam. And it's like, why is that six foot

tall dude picking up the Empire State building

and throwing it at a giant robot? Because it's

anime. The Universal Century stuff, unicorn aside,

is very closer to reality. So we watched Char's

Counter -Attack and then also Unicorn, which

I watched over the course of three days last

week and the week before. Not technically a movie,

but they did release them individually. It's

way more expensive than a movie because they

release them individually per episode, one hour

episode, $60 a piece on Blu -ray. So it's like

watching a bunch of really, really, really expensive

movies. But the Char's Counter -Attack, final

story of Char Asnable. Really, I can't suggest

it unless you've seen the other UC stuff for

both that and unicorn And if you have seen the

other UC stuff, don't don't avoid it, especially

charged counter attacks. That's really good So

that's what I have to say What about cop -out?

Oh, jeez Nate coming in with the late edition

cop -out starring Bruce Willis and Tracy Morgan

Tracy Morgan Directed by Kevin Smith that movie

should have been better It wasn't as bad. I liked

it more than everyone else Yeah, I'm way more

forgiving I kind of go back to what we said when

we were watching it and when we got done watching

it the problem with cop -out is it came out the

same year as the other guys and To me the other

guys is far superior It's kind of funny if you

want to see what Kevin Smith does with someone

else's movie go go and see it Or if you feel

bad that you haven't seen anything Tracy Morgan

in a while because of his car crash Go see it.

Oh It feels so insensitive to a lot of stars

out there dude, I was gonna make a fast and furious

joke right after that Comedy is all about timing,

and you botched that one. I did. I thought I'd

get too much hate for it. All right, getting

into the main attraction of the day, Sin City.

We watched Sin City 1 on a Friday. Then we watched

Sin City 2 on Sunday. So we watched them two

days apart a week or so ago. You guys are both

fans of the first Sin City, right? And that was

your second time or third time watching that

one? At least. Yeah. OK, that was my first time

watching Sin City 1. I don't know how I missed

it, how I never had time for it. But that's it.

It's a very unique film. It's very stylistic.

They do so much with with colors. And lighting

and shadows and stuff like that. And it's just

something that's very unique as far as films

that we've been getting over the last 10 to 15

years. When did the Sin City first, when did

the first one come out? 01 or 02? Yeah, so about

the last 15 years. Something that I appreciated.

It was very unique. It's something I hadn't seen.

I like the action. I like the characters. Talk

about a... Wait, what did you say, Matt? Like

01, 02? So two and five. Oh, OK. But talk about

a lesson in character development that some other

people could maybe take a note or two from in

a completely different way, not maybe a typical

way to develop characters, but a way that's so

effective that I mean, this film is about the

characters. It's not about. I mean, this is kind

of makes it sound bad, but it's not necessarily

about the story. or like a specific plot as much

as it is about the characters that are involved

in that story. And I really enjoyed the first

one on the first viewing. Granted, after viewing

the second one, I had a lot of questions. As

far as even though it only been two days ago

of what I had just seen in the first one and

trying to make sense of everything But but I

really enjoyed the first one and you guys were

we're both excited to go into the second one

If I remember correctly, they're excited. Yeah

What were you guys's Opinions right away at the

end of Sin City 2. What did you what did you

feel like Matt? Well, my initial thought when

I walked out of the thing was like I don't know

if that was better than the first one My thought

and maybe I went into this in the wrong way because

I'm hearing the same type of critique or Response

from just about everybody. I'm hearing anything

about I listened to a little of the in -session

film guys on their review of sin City 2 and I've

read a few things here and there on the internet

and it seems like everybody wanted and Kind of

draws parallels to maybe 300 a bit in the fact

that we just had a sequel for 300 and it got

the same type of response I feel like a lot of

people wanted The sequel here to be we're more

concerned about it being better and an improvement

on the first one and I viewed it more with Sin

City more than 300 even that it was more so Exactly

what I was expecting and wanting as a continuation

of the first one. Like I felt like a lot of people

wanted it to be something new and better or them

to do different things. And they got criticized

because Sin City one was was kind of I don't

know if groundbreaking is the right term, but

it did a lot of things that hadn't been done

from from a film standpoint, from a visual standpoint.

Yeah. And and then they were hoping that that

like Sin City 2 would reinvent the wheel again

and give us a whole bunch of different unique

stuff. And I feel like that's not what I wanted

from that. I didn't want it to do a whole bunch

of more new stuff and wow me in the way that

Sin City 1 did. I wanted it to be a continuation

of that story. I wanted it to be another chapter

to something that was already established that

I enjoyed. I don't know. I think there's some

merit in that, but at the same time, you don't

want them to just keep doing the same thing over

and over again, like a lot of movies are doing

nowadays. Right. I guess it is something I actually

told a guy at work when he asked me if he should

go see it. I was like, you know what? Like, I

feel like if I hadn't seen the first one, the

second since any movie would be amazing. But

having seen the first one, it's like it's not

a good one. Like, it's totally worth seeing.

I don't know why it's not doing very well. Isn't

it a valid statement to say, though, if you enjoyed

Sin City the first one for what it was, that

you should, technically, it seems like you should

enjoy the second one. Oh, totally. Like, I don't

know. It feels like it could have been made back

to back. It feels like it could have been like

the first one could have been made and then like

three months later they made the second one.

Oh, totally. Like, it does not feel like it's

been a decade. Right. And that's what I think

that's what I was most impressed of is I thought

there was going to be something in there that

kind of disconnected it for me. And I was afraid

of that. That that did not happen. It did not

happen. So that's what I get. Maybe I was just

too too pleased at that to to be too concerned

about the rest of it. But I am definitely the

minority there. And that's why I'm upset that

it's not doing a little bit better to not that

it's not going against some stiff competition.

But continue your thought, Matt. I think I was

mostly done. I think it's good. It's not groundbreaking,

but it is just more good. You can't expect movies

to all be brand new, because that's not happening

anywhere. Right. Nate, what was your initial

reaction? I'm pretty much the same as you guys.

I thought it was... I left the theater thinking,

that was pretty good. I don't know if it was

better than the first. I remember thinking during

the game to kill for storyline that I was dragging

on and on. And I remember having that thought,

and I was like, I better make a note of that.

Because it was going on a little bit, and it

felt like that was getting stale after a while.

But there were... As much as I like Ava Green

and as much as it's nice to see her nude in a

majority of her scenes in this film, I will get

on board with that critique that a lot of people

have had where they felt like that was somewhat

of the main storyline in this film and it was

perhaps the least entertaining or Captivating

storyline amongst all the other ones that were

going on is it do you guys agree that? You enjoyed

the look at the other characters and the other

storylines more than than her storyline. I Think

that was really good. Yeah, I think I think I

agree that hers was the weakest of all of them

But at the same time, I feel like it was the

most fleshed out in that it could have been a

whole movie on its own. Right. Not that we need

another movie like that, because that's that's

like a classic film trope, right? So, yeah, I

don't think it was as strong as the other ones,

but I wouldn't say it was so bad it needed to

be removed. What did you guys feel? And this

is, I guess, spoiler alert in a way. But what

did you guys feel about the storyline revolving

around? Bruce Willis and Jessica Alba's character

from the first one and into this one. I was very

worried in the trailers and they made it work

in a way that made sense. I'm a little confused

as to what's going on, though, with that. Yeah,

for the for those of you that haven't seen it

or whatever or maybe wondering why people are

seeing it or why I've said I had a bunch of questions

as to how stuff worked, because it definitely

seems like certain storylines that you see in

the second one, second film are a prequel. to

the first one and it seems like other storylines

are somewhat of a sequel to the first one yet

some of those same storylines intertwine with

each other yeah so there's definitely some timeline

uh it's a bit wibbly wobbly complexities or tiny

wimey Yeah, there's stuff to explore as far as

the timeline goes and how this stuff happens,

because obviously, there's a notable character

in the first one played by Michael Clarke Duncan,

who has a gold eye in the first one, and we see

how he gets that eye here in the second one,

played by Dennis Haysbert. So that would tend

to say that some of the storylines are, you know,

prequel to it. But then obviously, the Bruce

Willis and Jessica Alba stuff is definitely a

sequel. Yet there's bar scenes where both the

characters are interacting so or in the same

scene or environment. So it's definitely a confusing

and perplexing film to dissect in a way but I

think that's kind of part of the draw to Sin

City and what they're doing with it maybe for

some people. But what did you guys think of Mickey

Rourke in this one compared to Mickey Rourke

in the first one? In what way? Did you like his

character as much as you did in the first one?

Yeah, he's still really fun to watch. He was

he was pretty bad ass. Yeah. I mean, he really

is like the best part of both of those movies.

Yeah, I think Mickey Rourke is probably the best

part about the second one still or about the

whole film, the whole series in general. And

then obviously, I'd like you guys really enjoyed

the Joseph Gordon Levitt portion of this one.

Oh, and then we also had And I don't want to

get this wrong here, but the character that changed

actors. Mike Clark Duncan's character? No, no,

no. The other guy that was friends with the with

the prostitute. Oh, Clive Owen. And who was he

in the other film? Benicio del Toro. Josh Brolin.

Yeah, Josh Brolin, I'm sorry, that character.

What did you guys feel about that? And was it

weird that that was the same character? You had

a different actor. Did that throw you off at

all? Or what did you feel about that storyline,

Nate? They did preface it. Yeah, they did. But

what did you feel about that storyline, Nate?

I don't know. It was good. I like it's weird,

like. Looking at it back now. It's been too long.

It's a problem like I I don't know. I remember

enjoying watching Josh Brolin, but that I think

that one for me was also a one that was like

Wasn't as good as the first like there wasn't

anything to really grab me about it Yeah, I do

think they did maybe at least you're talking

about improving improving on the first one or

if they attempted to do anything kind of Similar

to what they do the first and I felt like they

did even do more with the coloring in this one

and I felt like shadows played a bigger part

than they did in the first one But I feel like

they they use a little a few more accent colors

in this one than they did in the first one whether

it be Ava Green's eyes When the green that they

used on that Some of the some of the different

things that they did with color I thought were

even more pronounced than they did with the first

one So I will say that at least in that respect.

I felt like it It kind of expounded on on that

aspect of the first one. But definitely both

films are visually entertaining. Yeah. I mean,

I mean, it's not it's definitely not high art,

but it's fun to watch. Yeah. Matt, overall, anything

else about the film that we didn't talk about

that you wanted to get out there or that you

wanted to express? No, no, I think we covered

it. What about a rating? What kind of rating

would you give this film? The Sin City 2, I would

say I would give it, if it were the first one,

which it could probably work as just the first

one, I would give it a 4, but since the first

one had done a lot of the things, I'm going to

give it a 3 .5. Absolutely worth saying in theaters,

but not going to be the best movie of the year.

Nate? Well. I remember seeing the first Sin City

and really enjoying it. And now, like after rewatching

it a few times several years later, I don't think

as highly of it. I'd probably give this movie

like a two point five and then the the first

one I'd probably give like a three. Interesting.

I don't know. I've changed my opinion entirely

on that one because I used to really like that

movie and It's weird because that one was supposed

to be the good one right and then the spirit

came out and everyone hated it, right? But I

love the spirit you silly little guy I'm just

kidding. I enjoyed both of them. It was my first

time watching both of them, so I guess I didn't

have the 15 -year span to let the first one digest.

And I honestly feel like they're both very good.

I think the first one does a lot of things well.

I think the second one does some different things

well, as well as some of the similar things.

I think there are some drawbacks and there are

some question marks during the second one that...

Remain unanswered I guess so to speak and some

of the storylines, you know The main storyline

in particular is maybe not quite as entertaining

as the main storyline from the first film That

being said I enjoy them very much on the same

level. I think I'd probably give them both a

three and a half Star rating I don't think they're

necessarily the best films ever made but they're

very entertaining. They were a lot of fun for

me to view So I can't really necessarily say

too much bad about them So I would suggest anybody

that has been putting it off for some reason

like I did for some silly silly reason Go out

and see both of them back to back. It'll feel

like one long movie With weird with weird casting

changes in the middle Yeah, all right. So as

far as blu -ray stuff coming out this week anything

that you guys I mean obviously the big one here

would be Captain America the Winter Soldier which

is coming up there's a Godzilla double feature

I don't know if that has anything to do with

the Godzilla film that came out this year or

not I did not do my research on that one for

Marvel fans Marvel's Agents of Shields the complete

first season shield comes out this Tuesday and

what else we've got here Not a whole bunch I

guess Dominated by Captain America the Winter

Soldier. Well, will either of you be picking

that up? Probably not right now probably not

Like I've got half of I think I've got most of

wave one over here, but I didn't buy any of them

Maybe bottom all right Those types of films I

always wait for when I know there's gonna be

more and more I try to wait and save my money

for the box it As far as theater releases, I

guess you can fully expect Guardians of the Galaxy

to remain at number one Because I've not seen

anything that's coming out this week that's gonna

replace it dolphin tail to dude Dolphin tail

to I will I will take note of that At least shrug

part three. Yeah, I didn't even know if part

two had happened and I don't I never saw part

one So neither the disappearance of Eleanor Rigby

Is there any chance card into the galaxy is not

number one next week Thinking the Dolphin Tale

2 is gonna make 10 million At least I think I

think you're crazy Alright, fine. I don't know

anything about movies. Shut up. The Dolphin Tale,

that's the one where the dolphin doesn't have

a tail and they make a robot tail for it. Haven't

they done that film before? Yeah, Dolphin Tale

1. Come on, Kevin. Ah, joke. Credit conversation,

it's that time. It's that time. Last time, which

was a little less than a month ago, we did an

episode on Under the Skin, and I said some things,

and people didn't really like them, particularly

one individual. Insurgent Cinema. First off,

Insurgent Cinema has been a long time listener

and a long time commenter on NY Weekly slash

Weekend at the Movies and a lot of times he's

agreed with us. A lot of times he's said some

good stuff about the stuff that we've had to

say. Apparently due to what we said on Under

the Skin, we became wanker fanboys that no longer

deserved the right to talk about films in general.

Yeah, we lost our credibility as podcasters because

we didn't like one film. And he even called us

effing clowns. Oh. And effing retards. No. Yeah,

he was very, very perturbed. No, I read it. And

to a point where I don't even understand. How

you can be that upset about a movie. Any movie

ever. Any movie ever. Yeah, the point of us doing

this is to have fun talking about movies. So

we're definitely not trying to piss anybody off.

Well, the thing is, like, I enjoy it when people

say, hey, your opinion is not the same as mine,

but here's why it's a good movie. Did he say

why it was a good movie? No, he was very much

just trying to say that we're idiots for saying

anything bad about it and why we were idiots

But I will I will say that movie revolt Dan a

super fan of under the skin Did come to our defense

there pointing out that that was probably not

the best way to have an intelligent conversation

with us To which insurgent cinema replied an

opinion on a movie does determine your intelligence

Wow That's OK. Well, anyway, listen, I like being

challenged. I enjoy being challenged by other

people. You know, it makes me rethink of what

I am like. I think I was the least like I wanted

to give that film the most chance out of all

three of us. But, you know, I like being challenged,

but, dude, don't don't call us effing retards.

It's mean. Well, I'm not even upset about that.

I would just would prefer to have an intelligent

conversation where we can debate points about

the movie, which he clearly wasn't interested

in doing, which I apologize. And like I said,

he said a bunch of good things and we've had

good interactions with him in the past. So hopefully

that was just a minor blurp on the radar. But

the other thing that he did, which I actually

sometimes find myself almost doing this, too,

is while listening to a podcast, I start writing

a reply. Well, no, I start writing a reply while

I'm listening to it because I'm afraid I'm going

to forget. one idea or one comment I have while

I form more as I go through. But the key there

is to not actually post the comment until you're

done listening to the whole podcast, which I've

had to like train myself to do. Because sometimes

they'll address issues that I think. I'm addressing

in the comment. And then they'll address it later

in the podcast, because he was saying how we

didn't necessarily, we never even made an attempt

to discuss what the point of the movie was, or

what we thought the point of the movie was, etc.

And which Matt specifically questioned me as

to what the I thought the point of the movie

was, which on the spot, I might not have explained

well enough. But I guess I could give you a quick

cliff notes. I'm not trying to get too much into

the movie. but I understood the movie looking

back and being able to form my thoughts now as

this alien race who had had come either come

down to earth or somehow found themselves on

earth that were basically investigating observing

the human condition or human nature or human

beings in general, taking the form of a female,

knowing that females seem to have this interesting

power over males, et cetera, and held a kind

of a specific place in society, took the form

of one of those females. And her job was basically

to lure men in and into the abyss of her black

pool -like basement or whatever, in which case

they got processed and turned into what they

got turned into. And at one point there is a

clear scene in which she takes the guy that has

had some physical defects or whatever condition

that he had. and she did the same thing lured

him in etc etc and then on her way out there's

a scene where she's staring at the mirror and

she's starting to uh have compassion or have

feelings have emotions in which she's not supposed

to have as this alien creature um she lets the

guy out he's running in the field um her superiors

or the people that put her in that place the

guy on the bike go collect that guy and kill

him anyways um and she that spoilers i'm sorry

and then she uh proceeds to try to do all these

different things to feel human. She tries to

eat food. She tries to have sex. She tries to

do all these different things that are becoming

weird and stuff that she's not obviously accustomed

to doing. But in the mean, in the same breath,

she's somewhat becoming more in touch with with

human nature, I guess, in a way, to the point

where she is basically revolting against the

aliens that have put her there to do her job

and then they basically are going to do away

with her to which we have the whole scene in

the forest where she is getting doused with gasoline

eventually set on and you know comes out of her

shell, so to speak, and we see the alien under

the skin. I mean, I don't think I'm so far off

in seeing that as the main gist of the film.

I think you're just explaining the plot and not

really. Well, yeah, I mean, that's the plot and

that's how it goes. So it's a, you know, it's

a, it's a look at human nature. It's a look at,

you know, seeing things at surface value, seeing

things under, you know, that are more than meets

the eye, so to speak. And, and just an investigation

on how we view beauty, how we view human nature

and how things that we're caught up in might

look like to an outside viewer, so to speak.

I mean, that's the real quick cliff notes of

it. So I mean, I don't think I'm that far off

in getting what the point or what one of the

points could be that the writer or the director

was trying to get out of the film. So I tried

to address it in the first film. Hopefully I

addressed it maybe better at that time. My point

was that I feel like I'm not really being patronized,

but I feel like when a movie has to do it in

that way to try to get a point across me, it's

not something for me. It's not that it's not

something for everybody else and it's not like

it's an artistic film and it has nothing to do

with it being abstract or not necessarily as

story driven or dialogue driven as a bunch of

other films. It's more so that it didn't keep

my interest was the problem and films have done

that and kept my interest. But that one didn't.

So that was my main problem with it. But I apologize

that I differ from your opinions. Matt, he addressed

you too, so I guess I can give you a chance to

say some things too. Oh, dude, it's been like

a month. What did he say about me? About the

wanting to change it and put a narrator in and.

Oh, I didn't I didn't say, hey, they should change

this movie and put a narrator in. I said I think

I might have enjoyed it more if there was a narrator.

Right. Which is why I want to read the book,

but I don't know if I want to read the book badly

enough to spend money on buying the book But

yeah, no, I don't think they should change this

movie. I think they should leave it as it is

I just don't think it's a movie for me and If

Nate wants to watch it It has two super serious

lights down situation. I'll do it. I'll sit it

there and watch it again one more time. That's

it You're getting one more chance. Well, this

is a movie that you have to see at least how

many times before you truly understand. All Americans

see at least twice at least one time in theaters.

If you get that reference, please post what it

is and I will forever be impressed. Especially

because we mentioned it two months ago, so you

a fan. I'm approving your listening. But I don't

know, insert a film fan. That's what I got. Cinema.

Dude. I'm gonna quote Bob Kovoyan of the Bob

and Tom show. If you're gonna be like that, we

don't need you to listen to us. As bad as that

sounds, it's pretty true. If you're willing to

have a debate, willing to have a discussion,

let's have a discussion. If you're gonna yell

at us because we disagreed with your opinion,

there are other podcasts. Go listen to Talking

in Circles. It's pretty fun. I haven't listened

to it. I enjoyed it. I like it. Go listen to

Rhapsodycast. Go listen to Rhapsody Cast. We

don't have opinions on that one at all. I can't

pimp out any other show that I'm on, dang it.

Okay, but there was a lot of discussion. I can't

even, that took so far away from what our question

was. Our question was how will the new Power

Rangers movie do at the box office? And I feel

like - Did anyone, yeah, did anyone talk about

that? Yeah, some people amongst that whole thing

which a lot of people chimed in on and made comments

on. super film fan came to our defense as well

as movie role Dana. There was some people that

talked a little bit about Power Rangers film.

I think most people didn't think it was going

to do that well. Right. And then we got into

a discussion on franchises about the turtles

doing well. So Power Rangers maybe could do well.

And then someone that said Power Rangers fandom

is second to none and is only growing To which

I again said some things that angered some people

Mostly I do know that Power Rangers fandom is

huge and growing but to say second to none is

kind of my reply was Star Wars comma Star Trek

comma My Little Pony comma Pokemon comma Transformers

Mean it might be bigger than a couple of those

but DC Marvel Yeah, there are other ones that

are not only bigger but also growing I don't

think transfer Power Rangers is growing that

much I think it's fans other than very small

children Who are getting into the newer ones

which don't happen all that often because they're

on the higher ups and cable right now Yeah, other

than that, I don't think it's fandom is growing

all that much. Yeah, I just don't see it doing

as well as some of those other fandoms do at

the cinema. So, but we'll wait and see. It's

fun. I want to see it. Yeah, I mean, I'm not

opposed to other people enjoying it and wanting

to see it. And for those people, I hope it does

do well so that you guys can see stuff that you

like. Wait, you're saying that you can have a

different pain than me and I don't have to go

and die? No, you can enjoy it. I'm not even retarded.

No, you can enjoy your film. You can get more

of them. I just won't be going with you to see

them. Oh, OK. OK. I did not even have time to

think of a question for next week, but I know

that one of you guys did. And I know it's going

to have something to do with Halloween. Or horror

films. Why would it be about Halloween? Get into

that season and we'll probably be a month before

we do another podcast. No, I'm just kidding.

Hey, hey, y 'all. Come on, it's your come on.

I'm like the only one that's like I could do

it every night. Come on, guys. Or we could say

who has the better who has the better jungle

book going? No, no, no, no. Who has the best

jack -o -lantern in the movie? Yeah, dude, is

it Halloween two with the knife or Halloween

town with oh dude by the Disney Channel the Disney

Channel Okay, we got just multiple things you

can respond to here First of all, are you more

like Matt and I where you don't necessarily love

this season of movies? I want to be spooked Or

do you want to be spooked like Nathan? I want

to be spooked. What are your feelings about the

late September, early October film going experience?

Because this is when we get everything. This

is when we get our, you know, this is when the

stuff like Scream comes out and Blair Witch Project.

And did I say Scream? Because I meant Saw. But

we also get a bunch of Oscar movies. No, you

get Scream too as well. You don't usually get

your Oscar movies till after the Halloween season.

Yeah, then into the end of October through November

December you get some yes some good stuff So

that's what I'm looking forward to but are you

like me and Matt or are you more like Nate? Do

you like this season? Do you not like this season?

What are your favorite Halloween movies and Yeah

Answer all those types of questions or tell us

which jungle book you like better this so far

the Disney one or the Andy circus one so like

To defend my manliness, nah, I don't really care.

I'm totally like a lady. But I don't like scary

movies. I don't like to watch scary movies. I'm

very prone to nightmares and stuff, and so those

things have always been a problem ever since

I was a very young child. But I wouldn't say

I'm 100 % against scary things. I've found recently,

I have a one -hour commute at three in the morning

through farm country. It's pretty dang boring.

So you don't want to see children boring? Yeah,

I definitely don't want to see that movie. But

I've been listening to Welcome to Night Vale,

a podcast, which is essentially like it's essentially

like the newscaster for every town in the Twilight

Zone. And he's just this it's just this like

slow drone like the the local government says,

do not worry about the storm clouds that are

glowing in the eastern fields. Bill Jenkins,

you know the farmer towards the east of town

Says that it's been raining dead cows on his

farm for the last three days But you never know

if you can trust him, right? And it's just like

it's just like that and it's and it's so good

and it's so unsettling Like I'm just driving

like, oh no. But like the fact that it's not

visual, I think makes it okay. No dude, that

would make it worse because it's all in your

mind and you have the worst imagination ever.

I have a really powerful imagination. My thing

with the Halloween season of films... I don't

mind actually the scary aspect of stuff. I don't

mind the thrillers, the suspenses, and some of

those types of Halloween films. I just strictly

do not want to see the slasher. blood and guts,

gory type films. That's where I lose interest

real quick. Yeah, those movies suck. So I am

not a big fan of like the Jason movies or the

Freddy Krueger movies or that type of Halloween

film. I'm also not a fan of the paranormal, you

know, activity type, all that stuff. If it's

something that's just not as blood and gory,

but still scary, spooky or suspenseful or thriller

like, then I'm on board. So I guess that's kind

of where I draw the line or if it's a movie about

killer blank Ants or bees or cats or dogs or

snakes or whatever sharknadoes Well, I've never

seen that one, but all those other films I'm

down for for some reason. I like those types

of those are more those are usually on the campier

side of things. Yes Except when it's killer cats

Really? I don't know but there's a movie that

exists and this lady has like an old cat lady

and Cats took over house and killed her and then

there was just a million cats and if anyone went

to the house they got killed by cats I don't

really remember much film obviously But I was

one of your like you were super young and yeah

My sister was watching it I think but I remember

like certain episodes of TV shows or movies where

it was like killer ants or or something like

that and I what it was what intrigued me about

those films is not how ridiculous it is or how

funny it might be or campy or even it was I was

always interested in the ways I wanted to know

how they were going to solve it what way or what

scheme were they going to come up with to combat

whatever it was. Like how are they gonna be the

fire answer? How are they gonna do that? That's

what kind of intrigued me about those films and

it still does I would watch all those again and

again just So that's my stance on it But everybody

probably has a different opinion about those

types of films and which Halloween style films

they like in which they don't so feel free to

share that Anybody else any closing thoughts

on that topic? I would totally recommend that

you go and listen to Rhapsody Cast and Welcome

to Night Vale. And the podcast, the other podcasts

I'm involved with, which doesn't exist right

now. Eventually, you'll get there. Only specifically

the episodes that Kevin is in, which is almost

all of them. There will be one very soon, though,

coming out. I'm sure I have a couple of things

in the works if I ever have free time. All right.

Yeah, so go listen to Rhapsody Cast. And thanks,

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