Road Warrior, Ex Machina & Avengers: Age of Ultron Review

Hey, this is Greg burger and you are listening

to the geek cast radio network today on weekend

at the movies We bring you a super -sized main

attraction as we break down the second in our

look back at the Mad Max franchise with our review

of the Road Warrior We follow that up with a

look at the recently released X Machina and finally

do we do what every other movie podcast is doing

this week? We review Avengers 2 age of Ultron

all that and more coming up on weekend at the

movies That's right, it's another episode of

Weekend at the Movies. I am your host, Optimus

Solo, and joining me for her second podcast is

hard candy Mandy. Amanda, hello. Sup. Sup. And

would be joining us would be movie revolt Dan,

but he has probably the most valid excuse I've

ever heard for somebody to get out of a podcast.

He's at the hospital. with his wife who is in

labor so we will forgive him for missing out.

He wanted to be on the episode because he's seen

most of the movies we're going to be talking

about, but we'll give him a free pass on this

one and hopefully he'll be able to join us next

week. That's a pretty valid excuse, right? I'd

say. If you're popping out a baby. I don't know

if the actual baby popping is happening as we

speak, but it's a possibility. So we'll await

news from him and wish him the best of luck today

with all of that. So we have a Megasize Episode

today as far as talking about movies as you can

hear from the intro and the tease there So we're

gonna do things a little bit differently. We're

gonna skip the news section first because there

wasn't a whole bunch of groundbreaking news this

week and Second so we can have more time to get

a little bit more in -depth with a lot of movies

that we saw this week so we won't go too far

into the news, but we will touch on the box office

just briefly and Since we're recording this a

little late due to a certain movies release.

We actually have this current weekend's numbers

already up So looking at the box office, no surprise,

everybody knew this was coming. Coming in at

number one, Avengers Age of Ultron with 187 million

in one weekend. So in one weekend it did more

than any movie except for two so far for the

entire year. So 187 million, it's almost to its

250 million budget. Maybe a little bit more of

a surprise coming in. Second is actually The

Age of Adeline, not Furious 7. So Furious 7 not

only drops out of the number one spot, but they

drop all the way down to the third spot. So Age

of Adeline and Furious 7 coming in with a whopping

six million. So no money spent except for Avengers

this week. And then Paul Blart, Mall Cop, goes

from the second spot down to the fourth spot.

And the animated film Home comes in at number

five. Any surprise there for you, Amanda? Why

is Paul Blart... even in the top five. I don't

understand that. It's made fifty million dollars

so far, just north of fifty million dollars,

so nobody is afraid of that four percent Rotten

Tomatoes score apparently. How did it do more

than Ex Machina? I think that has to do with

the release. Paul Blart Mall Cop was in thirty

five hundred theaters and Ex Machina is only

in twelve hundred so far, so due to some release

issues there. I do find it surprising that Cinderella...

went from 12 last week, because it's been around

for eight weeks, and it made a jump all the way

back up to number six. So it is creeping. It

is trying to creep towards that 200 million mark.

It's at 193 .6 right now. So it's got a little

ways to do, but maybe in about a month, if it's

still in theaters, it might be able to creep

past the 200 million mark. The other opener this

week that started was Far From the Maddening

Crowd, but that only came out in ten theaters,

so that's not really a... issue there. Big drops

for Get Hard, big drops for Insurgent. True Story

went from 15th down to like 22nd so that is in

its third week now. It's had a total gross of

four million so but again that's only in about

296 theaters. Any surprise that Furious 7 is

down to number three and that Age of Aniline

beat it? Yeah, big surprise. I think a lot of

ladies are probably pushing that then. A lot

of ladies I had to endure going to see Furious

7 are now getting back at their... Yeah, they're

like, look motherfucker, we're going to the movie

that I want to see now. So Age of Adeline bumps

Furious 7. And looking ahead, there's not going

to be any change next week as far as the number

one goes. We'll talk about that when we get to

the movies that are coming out next week, but

nobody's trying to compete with Avengers in the

second week. We'll have to wait two weeks until

Mad Max tries to compete with it a little bit.

Probably not going to be much of a change. Next

week at the box office and if we're looking at

the yearly total so far Furious 7 currently holds

the number one spot with 330 million Cinderella

number two like I said 193 Avengers and its first

weekend is now the third highest grossing movie

the year with 187 Followed by Fifty Shades of

Grey and Spongebob with a home right behind so

maybe home can sneak past Spongebob or Fifty

Shades of Grey eventually sometimes those animated

movies are out forever in the theater, so Well,

it's hard for parents to take kids when it just

comes out. They want to wait until it's been

out for a few weeks in hopes to not disrupt other

moviegoers, I think, so it's a creeper. And with

a lot of school getting out for some people here

within the next month, maybe if it's still out,

it'll have another little spike or something

like that. So I have to wait and see on that.

Like I said, we're skipping news, but we will

talk about a few trailers. There was about a

dozen trailers that were released this week.

Going down the list, just listening real quick.

Black Mass, The Visit. Chocolate City, that's

got to be one of the dumbest names for a movie

I've ever heard of. He wouldn't even watch the

whole trailer. I wouldn't watch it, I'm sorry.

For those that don't know, Chocolate City is,

what, Magic Mike with like the African -American

version, or what? Just black dudes doing Magic

Mike, which we put out there. Barely Lethal,

Ted 2, I think I saw DJ Valentine in Chocolate

City, actually, so starting this stuff. Ted 2,

Strangeland, Wild Horses, The Last Witch Hunter,

Irrational Man, Demonic, and Legend. We'll have

links to all those trailers on the website page

with the episode post, but just looking at those

movies, which ones stuck out to you? Which ones

did you like? I thought Johnny Depp was pretty

awesome in the Black Mask trailer, so I'm looking

forward to that one. What? Somebody's looking

forward to a Johnny Depp movie? Dude, he looked

creepy. He did look creepy. He was not playing

his normal self, guys. Give him a break. I thought

the whole premise of that movie was pretty pretty

bomb looking too. I think the wild horses dude

There's already another movie by that name pretty

sure Robert Duvall I think Robert Duvall is in

it too. He is! Josh Harden making a movie appearance.

He's been in Penny Dreadful. He's got to make

a comeback here somehow. No No he doesn't. Just

get over it. James Franco playing a western Texas

guy. I'm not going to be able to hold that one.

Can we go back to Black Mask for a second? I

need to see more of Johnny Depp because his makeup

almost looks as bad as, what was that film, Capote?

Not Capote. The one where Leonardo DiCaprio played

an old political guy and the makeup was super,

super bad. J. Edgar. J. Edgar. It looked that

bad, so I need to see some more of his makeup

to make sure it's not just that one shot. Dude,

I thought it looked legit, though. I don't know.

It looked kind of weird. It looked legit. Don't

hate it. What other ones besides Wild Horses?

No, that was not something I'm looking forward

to. I think that The Last Witch Hunter needs

to come and really step up and redeem the seventh

son for me. I feel like it's like the same...

You and your witch hunter movies. I have a weakness.

First of all, I'm confused because the poster

for The Last Witch Hunter shows Vin Diesel in

like a long beard, long hair, and looking like

something out of like medieval times. He's got

to go through his trials and tribulations in

the Monctons and stuff by himself. I hear to

you that's what's gonna happen. Yeah, but right

now he just looks like Vin Diesel from Fast and

Furious. In the trailer, you mean? Yeah. In modern

times. He's probably been alive for a long time.

Oh. He's probably spent... It's the immortal

Vin Diesel. He probably spent seven years in

Tibet, okay? And then he had to have that beard

grown. I don't know about that. I don't know

about the Last Witch Hunter. Michael Caine, Vin

Diesel... Do Michael Caine makes anything legit?

No, that's gonna be... And you thought the same

thing for the people that were in Seventh Son.

But... It's Michael Caine. Didn't happen. Jeff

Bridges? Not so much. Jeff Bridges is a joke,

dude. Julianne Moore? Not so much. All right

PD or whatever that was PD. Yeah, but I think

the demonic one If he's scary, yeah legend I

think I when I saw the picture on Twitter of

Tom Hardy sitting next to Tom Hardy I was immediately

intrigued and after seeing the trailer. I'm on

board. I love how the trailer like gives him

two credits. It's like Tom Hardy and then it

blinks away and then it's like Tom Hardy. Don't

they always do that when one actor plays two

characters? Sometimes. And for those people,

whoever the Tom Hardy owner is, I think it's

DJ Valentine again, in the PFFL, no you're not

getting double points for that. That's one appearance

for Tom Hardy. Same movie. What about your M.

Night Shyamalan Madingdon? Shyamalan? Yeah. With

The Visit. Oh, I don't know what he's doing with

his life. I really don't. So he's not going to

redeem his last ten years with the visit? No,

because that just looks like paranormal activity

redone in the same sense as, I don't know. Yeah.

It looks bad to me because I don't like those

types of movies, so I can't really give it a

justified opinion there. I don't need any more

reason to be creeped out by old ladies. In a

rocking chair, looking at a wall. Yeah. It's

creepy. Get in this oven to clean it. Right.

Then we have Samuel L. Jackson playing the same

role that he's played in the last ten movies

he's been in. When is he not going to be a director

of something? He's teaching, he's a professor,

he's a director, he's the head of something.

It's always spy related. He's got a lisp or an

eye patch or some type of handicap physically.

He will laugh. We're talking about Barely Lethal

which is Samuel L. Jackson and Jessica Alba and

a bunch of other people. Sansa Stark. She has

no words in the trailer, just they see your face.

I don't think that's like a wide -release movie.

I'm assuming that's just like a direct -to -video

or something. I don't know. That looked cheesy

as hell. Ted, too, of course. More hijinks from

Marky Mark and the stuffed bear. Looked like

it had some funny parts early on in the trailer.

I didn't see his lady friend at all in the trailer,

though. Which who's lady's friend, Ted's? Marky

Mark. Oh yeah, that's true. I don't know if she's

in this. It's all about Ted. And his girl. Tammy

Lynn. Tammy Lynn. But it looked like I had some

funny moments. Hopefully they all weren't part

of the trailer. I think if I had to say one,

the two that I was most interested in would be

Black Mass and Legend. You did like, lock quite

a bit. Yeah. Tom Hardy's cool. Irrational Man,

I don't know, it's another Woody Allen flick,

so if you're into Woody Allen, it's got Joaquin

Phoenix and Emma Stone in it, so if you're into

those people, it might be good, but I don't know,

that looked kinda creepy to me. That's Strangerland

with Nicole Kidman, I have no idea what is happening

at all. Yeah, that just looked like Nicole Kidman

being stupid. I don't know what it's about, I

don't know what's happening. Just a sandstorm

in a car. I said Thriller, but I wasn't thrilled.

I wasn't thrilled. Out of all those trailers,

let us know which ones you're interested in,

which ones you're not. Tell us if we're right

or wrong on our first thoughts, but like I said,

I'm intrigued by Black Mass and Legends, so looking

for more about those two when they come out.

It's not all about you. You said the same things.

It's not all about me. Oh, I'm sorry, and the

last witch hunter. Because you're obsessed with

witches. No, I'm not obsessed with witches. Oh,

you're obsessed with the witch hunters. I like

the... You like the hunters of the witch. I like

that genre. Hansel and Gretel, Seven Son. Last

Witch Hunter. I didn't know that's what Seven

Son was about to be like. Anyways, let us know

your thoughts on those and we'll react to those.

We'll reply on the website. We're gonna take

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what we've been watching and then we'll get into

the main attraction Like I said, we got a lot

of movies to talk about we have three movies

as part of our main attraction But before that

we're gonna talk about some other movies that

we've been watching and we'll start with Amanda

because as always she sees more movies than I

do So which of the three movies that you saw

without me, would you like to start with? Let's

go with Frankenstein I watched Mary Shelley's

Frankenstein with Robert De Niro as Frankenstein.

That's just weird. And he was probably the most

articulate I've ever seen Robert De Niro be in

a movie, even though his face was all messed

up. What do you mean by articulate? Like he sounded

smart. Robert De Niro didn't sound smart in Casino?

I don't think I saw that. No, he was a jackass.

He was not a smart ass. He was intelligent. What

about Meet the Fockers? Meet the Fockers? Or

Meet the Parents? He was a jackass in those movies

too? But he sounded smart. Yeah, yeah, I guess.

But not like Shakespeare reading books. Smart.

Oh, okay. Gotcha. It was good. What kind of scale

are we doing this? It's always 1 of 5 here at

the Geekcast Radio Network. Okay, well I'll give

it a 3 out of 5. It was decent. It had the guy

that played Dildari Lockhart in Harry Potter

as Frankenstein. Victor Frankenstein. I thought

Robert De Niro was Frankenstein. The monster.

He's Frankenstein's monster. Oh. Let me get that

right. My bad. But I mean it was a typical storyline

that follows Frankenstein. You made me, you abandoned

me, you're scared of me. Now I'm gonna hate everybody

and kill everything you like, but now I'm gonna

come back and you better make me a bride, otherwise

I'm gonna murder your family. So you said three?

Three out of five? Yeah. So you overall liked

it? I liked it. It was good. I mean, I wouldn't

say it's phenomenal, but I liked it. It was enjoyable.

Okay, fair enough. And what other films did you

watch this week without me? I watched Son of

Batman, which is an animated film. I really,

really was digging on that. I had seen the beginning,

I think on Netflix like a while back. must have

fallen asleep or something because I didn't see

the end but I went through it again and some

of it was kind of I mean it was an animated film

so it was a little cheesy at one point there

was you know ninjas with guns versus ninjas with

swords and then you know, Ra's al Ghul was in

it, which is pretty cool, even like the Lazarus

pit. I don't know what it is about the Lazarus

pit, I think I need to learn more about it, but

whenever somebody comes out of the Lazarus pit,

they freak out, and they're freaking... How's

that go? But it starts some cool scenes with

him coming in and out of the Lazarus pit, but

I feel like he almost went out like a little

bitch, but I'm not gonna give away any helps.

Am I gonna spoil it? I'm not going to spoil it.

That's an old movie though, right? Yeah, it's

been out for a while, but I mean it's cool because

it had Slade Wilson. It had, you know, Killer

Croc, Whalen Jones in it. It gets really brutal.

Batman doesn't go any punches. And you've seen

a lot of the animated DC films or not? I've seen

a fair few. I mean like Under the Red Hood. I

really like that one. Did you see, what was it,

Return of the Dark Knight? or Dark Knight Returns

or something, part one and part two. The animated

ones? Yeah. I couldn't tell you, probably not.

But I mean, it was alright. And then eventually

it got to some more weirdness with some genetic

experimentation, where it's like a man, vampire,

bat soldiers. I don't know why they needed swords.

They're mutants, they have claws and things,

but they had swords. Interesting. It was cool

to see Damien Wayne being a little asshole. Slicing

people up. Who's Damian Wayne? Damian Wayne is

the son of Batman. Oh, I get it. Talia, Ra's

al Ghul's daughter, and Batman had a baby. That

sounds bad. This is definitely not a four kids

animated movie by any means. There's a lot of

side boob and yeah. Animated side boob? Animated

side boob. Gotta love it. I don't know about

that. Alright, somebody out there loves it. It's

not me. So on a scale of one to five, where does

son of Batman rank? I would say four. I liked

it. Four? That's a pretty good rating. Yeah.

So it was better than the other animated films

you've seen or? I wouldn't say it was better.

I mean, it was pretty cool. Okay. And you saw

another comic book related film without me. Oh,

I revisited Superman Returns. Why would anyone

revisit that film? Just because I couldn't remember

a lot of it and I realized. I fell asleep and

then it restarted again. And so I finished it.

Yikes. That's just my life. So, details. How

much did you like it on your return visit? I

didn't like it much at all. I think I like the

Henry Cavill Superman story better. This one

was just watered down and weak and I don't like

Kate Bosworth or whatever her face is. Why did

we have this movie inside the house? I bought

it. Why did you spend money on this? I got it

at Disc Replay. So you only spent like a dollar

on it? It was like $3 .33. Alright. I'm just

trying to beef up my collection. Let's beef up

the collection with good movies. But it... Superman,

bro. Yes, there's not hardly any good Superman

movies, so not necessary. Kevin Spacey! Fucking

K -Pak! Yeah, anyway. Alright, so those were

the ones that she saw on her own. Superman Returns,

you didn't give a grade for it, 1 through 5.

How low is it ranking? Let's give it a 2. A 2?

I think that's generous. 1 .5. 1 .5? Which one

are we settling on? 1 .5. 1 .5 for Superman Returns.

So that's a 1 .5 for Superman Returns, a 3 for

Frankenstein, and a 4 for Son of Batman. There

was a couple movies that we saw together that

are not part of the main attraction parts. Because

I don't want to advertise to anybody that I actually

watched these movies. I'm gonna say it. So anyways,

we watched the first three Fast and the Furious

movies. You're welcome. And the only reason I'm

watching these is so that when I bash these films,

people can't accuse me of bashing something I

haven't seen yet. So this will give me actual

fuel to the fact that I did see these films so

I know what I'm talking about. So far, as Movie

Revolt Dan warned me, he said the first three

or four are not going to be something you like,

and he is absolutely correct. The films in this

first half of this franchise so far are complete

garbage. Let's start with the first one, the

original Fast and the Furious, because that is

the best of the three so far. I will say that's

the best of the three. You get Paul Walker, you

get Vin Diesel, you get a whole bunch of characters

that at least have something... Michelle Rodriguez.

Michelle Rodriguez. You get some people that

you can at least get invested in a little bit.

There's a little bit of depth to the characters

somewhat. But man, some of this just doesn't

work for me. I have a problem. I know this is

something that's a staple of the franchise and

this is something that people like as far as

the action goes. But I can't suspend my... Reality

when it comes to physics and logic to the point

that these movies want me to What kind of car

was that that went drove under the semi civic?

Yeah, I had a civic cannot drive. I drive don't

hate cannot drive under a semi If the semi is

jacked up, which it was, and the Civic was dropped

ridiculously low, which it was, they made it

happen. We saw it. Is it realistic? No. Was it

awesome? Yes. There's some things that happen

with wind and forces and stuff like that when

you're in situations like that. And with tires,

it just wouldn't work like that. You couldn't

steer and stay steady under a semi. They did

it. It's stupid. But they didn't do it. They

did it in a movie. They did it! Come on, they

didn't actually do it. Okay, is somebody on the

street doing that? No. But they did it in the

stunt driving. Just like Jean -Claude Van Damme

doing the splits between two semis. Happened.

Vin Diesel is a terrible actor. Amanda can defend

him all she wants, but Vin Diesel... He doesn't

need to say a lot! Vin Diesel is literally one

of the worst actors in Hollywood. He's got a

cool voice, like he's got the big deep voice

and he's a big, you know, husky muscular beefcake

of a dude. So like... It just looks like he could

break your face and if he yelled or something

I'd probably get scared. I just never got though,

like even going through high school when this

movie, this movie came out when I was in high

school I believe, or when I graduated. It was

like right between high school and college or

something. And girls have been obsessed with

Vin Diesel for a long time, and I don't get it.

I don't even like bald guys, but... He's not

an attractive dude. He's... He's imposing. It's

that cave woman instinct that, oh, this guy will

club everybody else and bring me meat and we'll

survive. Exactly. Bring me some fucking meats.

It's so terrible. It's all I want. Carnal appeal

to Vin Diesel. Don't hate, congratulate. He's

a perfect cast for Fast and Furious, because

that's exactly what the fans of this movie want

to see, somebody like him that has that carnal

appeal, I guess. I'm sorry, Mr. Sensitive. Nobody's

tuning in to Fast and Furious for great acting,

so Vin Diesel's a great person to put in there,

I guess. And Paul Walker, I generally like Paul

Walker, and I think this is an example of Paul

Walker very early on before he kind of learned

some things because he's a little weak in this

film. I think he improves as the franchise goes

on and he becomes a better actor, but in this

first one he's very green and some of his laughing

and some of his different things are just kind

of, I don't know. All he's going to do is smile

and bat those those lashes over those baby blues

and look and drive. As far as the story goes,

I mean, obviously a lot of people have pointed

out in other podcasts and reviews that this is

basically just a ripoff of a different movie,

Point Break. So I'm not gonna beat that point

over with a dead horse. Can I just say that I

love Point Break? I love that movie. And you

like this movie. Makes sense. Because apparently

they're the same movie. Shh, I can't hear Keanu.

And equally as a great actor in Keanu Reeves.

But I don't have any problem. Yeah, they're racing

and they're doing their thing. I get it. It's

not something that appeals to me, but I can follow

it as a story goes and whatnot. And I don't care

how much everybody wants to claim that you got

to see all the movies and that all the dots are

going to connect in this completely illogical

and scientifically unsound film series, but I'll

watch them all and I'll wait for the plot points

to be connected. But if you're judging this as

a standalone movie, then the plot never is resolved

in this. They just kind of don't even touch on

it. This is the startup. It was at the time it

was not at the time it was a one -off movie at

the time They had no idea that it was gonna be

a franchise Well movies can do that, but that

doesn't mean who doesn't need closure in a movie

There was no closure to the plot. You know what

happens. No. I don't they okay. I can understand

what their fugitives now. They're running Paul

Walker is now either gonna get arrested or he's

gonna be a fugitive himself Yeah, but okay. I

can understand with leaving something open. There's

ways to leave films open for a sequel. A lot

of films do that. It's commonplace these days

and a lot of films do that. But they still wrap

up the story that was central to the film that

they're doing right now. The whole plot of this

film is that he's an undercover agent, an undercover

cop that is trying to find the dish on these

stolen goods and all this other stuff. He dish

the scoop scoop that you put in a dish So he's

trying to find out the details and you know do

his undercover thing And they completely abandon

the conclusion of that part. You can't just have,

he goes off the, off, you know, abandons that,

helps Vin Diesel out, sends him on his way, and

then everything's just honky -dory, which is

how it ends. He goes off the rails because he

forms a relationship with them. And then coming

into the second one, we find out why he has that

soft spot for that relationship with Vin Diesel,

and we found a new family. Right, I get all that,

but... Apparently the police force and the FBI

and whoever else government agents involved in

this universe are much different than the ones

that are involved in the real world, because

none of that would have flown how it happened

in that film. Bro, it's a movie. Exactly. And

I can only just... It's not setting up like it's

in some alternate universe. It's setting it up

like it's here on Earth. And that's not how the

police force works in the United States. They

wouldn't allow that. He would have been locked

up, put away, and... The key was thrown away.

If they can catch him. Oh my God, he's not Jason

Bourne. He's not Jason Bourne here. This is Paul

freaking Walker. He went to Miami. Look him up.

He doesn't have a new identity. He didn't scrape

off his fingerprints. You can find this guy.

He didn't go to rock or whatever? No. And I also

like how this franchise incorporates the whole

idea. You see it more with the hacker genre.

where there's like a computer hacker and then

the government will be like, wait, we can use

you for our benefit. Go find this bad hacker

and we will let you out of jail type thing. I

mean, I know it didn't work with black hat and

whatever, but it's a common trope. I didn't realize

that the same holds up for people that can race

cars. The government needs race car drivers.

as much as they need hackers. Because it's the

Fast and the Furious verse. It's like, if you

can race cars, you can have your record erased

and you can be helpful to the government, which

gets us to the second one before we get to the

second one. Okay! No, wait! Okay, they needed

him in the second one because he had a certain

skill set plus he had Plus his background like

he could do undercover stuff. That's what they

needed him for They didn't need him just to be

a driver. The government has never needed a driver

in the history Just because he was a driver they

needed him because he could go undercover and

it just happens to be a driver needed There's

a driver needed never has been said in the entire

history of the FBI anyway Okay, clearly you like

this film more than I do I am saying it's the

best out of the three I've watched so far so

your Grade on the original fast and furious out

of five would be what I'm gonna say four. Okay

four out of five for Amanda I will give the first

one a three. I'll give the first one a three.

Borderline three and a half, but I'll stick with

it a three because I generally enjoyed the characters.

You know, as much as I don't like the acting

of Paul Walker and Vin Diesel, I think they're

still easy to watch and laugh about and whatever,

so... But I think there's more character... You're

just a hater because you don't give a shit about

cars. I don't. And that's what this whole movie

was about. You're like, I'm gonna write this

entire movie off because... I'm gonna look at

what they're showing me when they lift up that

hood, and I don't give a fuck about it. I don't.

I don't care what's under the hood. I don't care

what kind of car it is. I don't care what gear

it is. I don't care about any of that stuff.

I know, but it's still a movie that's out there,

so if I'm watching it, I'm gonna judge it based

on my personal experiences. Yeah, and all you're

doing the whole time we're watching this, is

that supposed to mean something to me? Is that

supposed to be cool? Oh, is that a good thing?

I'm sorry, I don't get why cars are cool, but

I'll give it a... No, it's not, because I have

a brain that works. I have an intelligence factor

above... Intelligence you need to make cars like

that work? Yeah, uh -huh I'm giving it a three

out of five so it's better than the other ones

so far so that means we're in for a treat here

as we get to What's the name of the second one?

Too fast too furious or something like that whatever

the number the second one all right so second

one we have of course Paul Walker continues that's

the only link really to the previous movie outside

of mentions of stuff that happened I'm talking

about character wise oh yeah the captain Captain

guy. What? Don't correct me. I've seen these.

So the Captain and Paul Walker, otherwise it's

just mentionings of what happened in the first

one, so we're... I want to mention you don't

need to have all the characters from the first

one. No, no, I get that. I think that was the

most clever part of what the Fast and Furious

originally I thought was trying to do, because

when they decided that they were going to do

sequels, there wasn't... the typical sequel thing

of we have to bring back the whole cast, et cetera,

et cetera. It was just going to be like Fast

and Furious with maybe none of the characters.

Fast and Furious, you know, movie with maybe

one character or maybe two of the characters.

And it was just going to kind of bounce around.

So there was kind of more loose connection. I

have no problem with that. It's like Crash, you

know, had all these different storylines and

then they come together. Right. I get all that.

But obviously, as we get through the franchise,

that's going to completely shift at some point.

And they're not going to follow through with

that motive or with that kind of. Idea, so I

mean it was cool. They're trying to do it at

the beginning I'm not gonna hold that against

them, but because the characters were much better

developed in the first one Yes, I said characters

developed and we're talking about fast and furious

but because they're more developed in the first

one with Vin Diesel and Michelle Rodriguez and

Paul Walker and and even some of the the other

guys even the the jackass from the first one

that was a Kind of the archenemy. I don't need

to know that. Stop spoiling things. But even

the jackass that Paul Walker was fighting with,

like, is developed somewhat in the first one.

And my problem is, is they develop those characters

in the first one, and then they go to the second

one, and the characters in the second one just

aren't as well developed. You obviously have

Ludacris now. Can we talk about what Ludacris

looked like in this film? Because he looked ridiculous.

Dude, you don't know anything about style. Look

what you're wearing right now. So don't even

talk about Ludacris. Ludacris looked ridiculous

in this film. It's Miami. Dude was killing it.

Yeah, he had some braids and a duvet. I don't

think you're gonna have a fro like that in Miami

when you're... Dude, why wouldn't you want to

have a fro like that in Miami? He looked ridiculous.

And then of course we have the ever appealing

to the women Tyrese in this film who... Takes

his blouse off. Who finds a lot of different

reasons to take his clothes off. He's hungry.

He's hungry, so you gotta take a shirt off when

you're hungry. That's just how it happens. That's

how I get food. So we're set up with this idea

that Paul Walker and Ty Reese Have a history

together and Paul Walker is brought in from you

know by the police to do this undercover thing

The FBI excuse me the the ever incompetent FBI

in this universe And so he's going to recruit

Tyrese because he needs another driver. And of

course, Tyrese is at first blaming him for a

jail stint. So they get in a fight at the beginning.

That was one of the worst fight sequences I've

ever seen in my life. He wasn't trying to hurt

him. It was terrible acting as far as a fight

goes. It was funny. It was meant to be like two

friends. All the other fights in this franchise

I've seen have been good, but that was ridiculously

looking. It wasn't supposed to be a serious fight.

Don't care if it's serious or not. They looked

like they were trying to not be serious too hard

Like you could act and as friends fighting and

then pull it off They would look like they were

trying to act like friends that were fighting.

They looked like 13 year old boys wrestling around

Yeah, that sequence was horrible and apparently

Paul Walker and Tyrese are cousins Cuz it keeps

coming cuz so cuz that's that's something that

never gets explained Paul Walker's Ebonics in

this movie come at random and they're awfully

delivered and can we talk about the walkie -talkies?

The walkie -talkies like they're literally sitting

in a car next to each other talking to each other

on walkie -talkies at one point And then of course

we have to insert the the female love interest

because Paul Walker has a different female love

interest I think in every movie So we had what

was the girl's name in the first one? What was

the other girl's name in the first one? I don't

know who the actress that played that girl but

the Vin Diesel sister. Yeah Vin Diesel sister

in the first one who That was a pretty believable

connection between those two I thought like I

can buy Paul Walker and Vin Diesel sister You

know having a thing there, but in this one we

get what's her name Ava Mendez? Ava Mendez as

the other undercover officer that is trying to

infiltrate the the dude that's bad in this film

We don't need to go into that because there's

really not much to the whole reasoning behind

that. But there's one point where Ava Mendes

runs up and kisses Paul Walker out of nowhere.

She doesn't just run up. They were face to face

already in his boathouse. Did she swim there?

I don't know, but there was no buildup to that

point. All of a sudden now we're kissing. All

of a sudden, like, we've been looking at each

other from afar and now it's time to kiss each

other. We've been eye -fucking each other for

about three scenes now. It's about time to kiss.

So that means you've got to kiss. This movie,

I did not like as much as the first one. I like

Tyrese in general. Like, he's cool. Like, I don't

mind him and I know he's gonna be a factor, you

know, going through the rest of the franchise.

So we'll wait and see how that develops, but

I just didn't like... I don't think there was

enough... of the supporting cast to get into

in this one. Even if you like Paul Walker and

Tyrese, I didn't care about Ava Mendes' character,

I didn't care about the bad guy, and there just

wasn't as many dynamics between the whole ensemble

like you got in the first one, so I'm a little

bit lower on this one than I am the first one.

Do you like this one more or less than the first

one? I think that one through three, my rating

goes down with each. We're not at three yet.

So this one is kind of on the down step as well.

Okay. So you gave the first one... a four? I

think I gave it a three. Oh yeah, you gave the

first one... no, you gave the first one a three

and a half or four. It was like two minutes ago

and you've already forgotten what you gave it.

Yeah, deal well with reading. Okay, well what

do you give the second one? Either 2 .5 or 3

.5? I don't know, depending on my last score

that I don't remember. It's gonna be a .5 below

my last score. We'll put that up there. Well,

we'll have to work on her memory skills. I gave

the last one a 3. I will give this one a 2. I'm

gonna give this one a 2. So a 3 for the original

Fast and Furious, I'll give the second one a

2. It's a second movie, I should get a 2. So

if you were on a 10 point scale, that equates

to a 4 out of 10. Too fast, too furious. Too

fast, too furious, 2 points out of 5. Alright,

so that brings us to Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift.

Keyword drift there, because it's all about drifting

in this film. Alright, so let's get rid of all

characters from the last two films. Um, and let's

focus on, I don't even know the dude's name.

I don't want to know the dude's name. Lucas Black.

Lucas Black is a terrible actor. He, I can't

stand his voice. That's his real voice. I can't

stand it. I cannot stand listening to that guy

talk. That guy talking makes me want to punch

a baby. That's just all there is to it. Then

you have grown up Bow Wow because he shed the

little part, so it's just Bow Wow. Can't be a

little further. And then, um, a bunch of people

I don't know. Including the women and including

all of the people from Tokyo And including everybody

in Tokyo and including Lucas Black's dad. I don't

know who that was either I have seen him in something

else, too Oh and at the beginning we get a cameo

or a little couple second spot from the oldest

kid from home improvement being a high school

bully so He looked like a douche, but they all

look like they were about 30 in high school Yeah

And I like at one point Lucas Black and Home

Improvement Kid are about to get in a fight in

the parking lot and within two seconds the entire

student body is there to watch. Like that was

the fastest moving... crowd. Everybody was already

in the parking lot because it was the end of

the day. Everybody was leaving. Everybody was

already outside. Have you ever been in a fight

in the parking lot? No, but it's gonna take a

second. Everybody gets there. No, but it's gonna

start and then someone's gonna see it and then

someone's gonna run over and then more people

and then it's gonna be a gradual thing until

there's a lot of people there and by the time

the last people get there the fight's already

fucking over anyways. Like these people were

there in point like five seconds. There was like

300 people watching this fight. That's unrealistic

and stupid. I know you've been in a lot more

fights than me, but that's not how it happens.

I'm sorry you went to a school with about 105

total students. My graduating class was probably

four times the size of your entire school. Yeah,

I don't care if my high school was 400 people

or not, they still wouldn't get there that fast.

Because they're slow farm kids, that's why. No,

they're much faster than city kids. No, they're

not. Yeah, they're on the outdoors, they gotta

run and whatnot. No, they're not running from

animals and shit, we're running from the cops

in the city. That's stupid. Your face is stupid.

And also, racing takes a whole new definition

in this film because it's not about racing, it's

about... Getting girls' numbers. No, no, no.

That's why Han races. That's why Han races, but

I'm talking about it in general. It's not like

racing, and I'm not just talking about it because

it's drifting, it's more of car battle survival.

It's not a race, it's get to the end without

your car being destroyed. Like, because it's

all about trying to knock each other's cars into

buildings, off of mountains, into other cars.

Like, they race not friendly. This is not a friendly

race. That's all I gotta say about that. It's

just stupid because you can see how much money

they put into these cars. Like, what else are

these kids doing? They're making bank. They can

just chuck out all these car parts. And Lucas

Black is the worst driver in this entire franchise,

probably. He keeps saying, oh I've won my first

race the next day. Yeah, apparently when he was

16 he won a race and then he's never, he forgot

how to drive the next day. Like his first day

he got a ticket, his second day he won a race,

his third day he got amnesia and forgot how to

drive. Because he's wrecked at least six cars

in this film. That's probably a low estimate.

Yeah, I think only one of them was his, really.

And not only is he a terrible driver, but he's

playing like a high school, he's playing a high

schooler. could be junior, could be senior, probably

a senior, because he won his first race when

he was 16 and he's probably 17 now. He's saying

that story like it was like a long time ago,

like when I was 16, no dude, you're a high schooler.

That had to be like two years ago. But maybe

we shouldn't cast a 24 year old to play an 18

year old. Sometimes that works, but this dude

is not looking like a high schooler. In fact,

in one scene, he has to get de -robed to go into

the sauna or whatever with a sumo wrestler. He's

got more chest hair than... He's got chest hair

that can't even be contained. By his t -shirt.

Yeah, it's like popping out and like poking his

chin and stuff. And then he's got the most unattractive,

and I'm not trying to, no homo here, but he's

got the most unattractive chest. nipple area.

Oh my god, his nips were nasty. And it like,

his chest hair didn't even want to come close

to it. Like there was like rings of skin around

his actual areola because they were like, we

ain't getting nasty. We're not getting in on

that. He was not in it. Like if Vin Diesel or

let's just go back to the last movie. Let's not

compare Lucas Black and Tyrese when they're taking

their shirts off here. I'm just saying, I think

girls are gonna have two different reactions

to those two individuals taking their shirts

off. And it's not a favorable one for Mr. Lucas

Black, but you might be in favor of being with

him because he has magical healing powers. He

gets the crap beat out of him by this Yakuza's

nephew guy. I don't remember what his name was.

Well, apparently, if you have the male version

of Mila Jovovich's nipples, then you have healing

powers. But this dude... Destroys him like he

punches him like three or four times hard in

the face. He's like kicking him in shit His whole

face is but he's literally spitting out blood.

He's spitting out blood and We go there's this

not like time has passed. There's no way time

has passed It's very clear in the plot that one

day has passed if that if a whole day and he

is healed almost entirely Like come on now this

movie is bad on so many levels on so many levels

i get that they wanted to go to a different country

and kind of show different types of cars and

show this whole drifting thing and whatever like

the drifting is cool what whatnot but this was

a bad decision i understand why everybody and

their brother says tokyo drift is uh is the worst

of of or one of the worst films in this franchise

because so far it's definitely the worst that

i've seen um If I'm given a scale on 1 through

5 for Tokyo Drift, I'm going to give this one,

uh, I'll give it a half. I like how on the notes

here it's just one word, nipples. Yeah, I put

nipples down as a note. I don't even know what

that is, but this definitely says nipples. Well,

that says terrible driver, and then that says

nipples. Just nipples. Yeah. And, uh, so yeah,

I'm gonna give this one a .5 out of 5. A .5.

A failing grade for Tokyo Drift. What do you

give this one? I give it the same. I, again,

I like... I like looking at the cars and cool

paint jobs and schemes and all that good stuff,

but as far as anything else goes in this movie,

I think it's shite. It is shite. So, so far we've

decreased with every movie and hopefully what

everybody says is right and they'll start getting

better around four or five and we can ramp back

up and then eventually I'll see the seventh film.

I won't pay money for it though, so somebody's

gonna have to either pay for me to see that or...

I don't know what we're doing with that because

I refuse to spend money on these films anyways

Decent first movie a little bit worse on the

second movie terrible third movie So that's it

for the fast and the furious franchise We'll

update you next week and see how many more of

these films were able to get through That means

it's main attraction time and like I said in

the teaser. We got a triple threat here We got

three films. We're talking about for our main

attraction We have the our continuation of the

Mad Max franchise We talked about the original

Mad Max a couple weeks back now We're going to

be talking about the second one the road warrior,

then we'll get into a couple new 2015 films X

Machina and Avengers 2 age So let's start with

the old one. Let's get the Road Warrior out of

the way. We started back with Mad Max, now we're

to the Road Warrior. And definitely a different

feel here, a different movie, as far as the first

one. I mean, the first one was kind of pre -apocalyptic

times. It was getting close to it, but there

were still some semblances of civilization and

police force and law and order. It was somewhat...

being dismantled, but it was still kind of somewhat

there. This one, that's all gone to the wayside

and we're completely in, you know... In the shit.

We're in the shit. We're in post -apocalyptic

world with no law, no order. And the basic setup

here is that we have Mel Gibson's Mad Max character

who comes across a semblance of civilization

here, kind of an outpost that is guarding a tanker

full of fuel and, you know, somewhat... I guess

what you could call the friendly people are guarding

that. And then you have a biker gang. They have

like a colony. Yeah, it's like a little fuel

colony that's built around this. That has chickens

in the desert. Yes. They have chickens. Chickens

in the desert, and they're built around this

tanker fuel, and there's of course a nasty...

car slash a biker gang that wants that fuel that's

trying to attack them and anytime somebody leaves

the the gates they're kind of being killed or

taken prisoner or whatnot so Mad Max comes across

this of course he's going to try to help out

the colony to fend off against this nasty gang

so only so he can get himself some fuel yeah

all because well he wants to he wants to yeah

he wants to get all up in that petrol he wants

to reassemble his car and get it going so we

can get the The last of the V8s. So what's your

initial reaction to the Road Warrior? Did you

like it more? Going into it, did you have a positive

feel going into it, or were you worried based

on your Mad Max experience? Little worried based

on the Mad Max experience, but it was always

kind of a cool idea for me, so I was willing

to truck it through, especially since the Fury

Road trailers have gotten me pumped up for this.

massive experience of craziness. So I was interested

to see what they're going to take from this movie

and make it into a greater film. Alright, so

let's get into some of the details. Again, I

haven't seen this film in so long. The only one

I could really remember from my childhood was

Beyond Thunderdome. So revisiting Mad Max and

the Road Warrior kind of fresh territory for

me because I very... Hardly remember them at

all from from back in the day. So new experiences

for me So I kind of went in open open minded

and clear -headed and just kind of letting the

movie decide if I'm gonna like it or not Couple

things We had some recurrences from the other

films with eye popping again We had the eyes

popping out of the head like Roger Rabbit again.

So I guess there's there's that Some things I

liked about it, I liked the bus gate that the

colony has, that they just kind of drive this

bus back and forth and that's the door to get

in and out of the colony. Like these motherfuckers

can't blow that up, it's just a bus. Or climb

over a bus, I don't know. Let's talk about the

bad guys though, we gotta talk about the gangsters.

So we got the main dude, who could be anybody.

We have no idea. He's got that mask on the whole

time. But he's so buff he has veins throbbing

in his head. I was so hoping that it was gonna

be like at some point revealed to be like Gary

Busey or Dolph Lundgren or some kind of crazy

bad guy, but that's not the case. And then we

have like his whole gang, but there's two people

that kind of step out at the beginning. They're

like the first encounter that Mad Max has with

these people. I think they call him the gay boys.

Literally that's what they call him. I think

they do call him the gay boys because man. These

guys, the one guy is wearing something that you

would only see in a gay nightclub. I think Mr.

Slave from South Park dressed this entire gang,

including Humongous himself. Yeah, because there's

a whole lot of terrible outfitting going on here.

I don't know how much these actors got paid to

look like this, but you'd have to increase my

pay a little bit to put these get -ups on. Some

assless chaps. Assless chaps. Assless everything.

Yeah, just they might as well not had clothes

on like they could have just had like a belt

or like a Whitey tighties on like that's basically

whitey's get it right tighty whitey's, but then

the colony was also equally as The costuming

in this film is so ridiculous I am looking forward

to the costuming in Fury Road because I'm not

I'm not saying it's bad like it's just weird

25 30 years later to look back and see these

people dress like this But I think it's gonna

be cool seeing how they're all dressed in inferior

road and seeing the craziness That's available

to them because I think that's kind of a staple

of this franchise. It's kind of the bizarre Style

I get it that like you have to take what you

can from the apocalypse and run with it But I

really can't see how your son's Little League

football hockey pads are gonna protect you in

the post -apocalyptic world Yeah, I get that.

The hockey pads, the belts, the dominatrix, there's

apparently somebody raided, there was like a

dominatrix place somewhere that they got a hold

of and they got all their goods because they're

wearing all of them. Or from the village people,

I can't really decide. Could be that too. A couple

interesting things here in this film. At one

point one of the bad guys tries to like... ram

his car into somebody or no, this is Mel Gibson.

Mel Gibson rams his car into somebody, which

I don't understand why he did that because he

lost the front half of his car by doing it. No,

it was humongous at the end. Oh, fuck it, I'm

going to ram my car into this big ass Mack truck.

Yeah, come on, what was the logic behind that?

That didn't work out well at all. We also got

to talk about the feral kid. The gangster -ass

Feral Kid. Jesus! Okay, again, I don't remember

this film from when I was a child, but I do remember

the Feral Kid and, you know, he kind of befriends

Mel Gibson and he has his little tunnels that

he can pop in and out outside the colony, whatever.

Like a quarry dog. At one point there's like

a showdown between the colony and Humongous and

his gang and they're kind of like laying the

law down and threatening and all this other stuff.

And the Feral Kid pops out, and I guess I wasn't

expecting it, but that dude threw a boomerang

that killed the... gay boy on the bike in the

sidecar. Gay boy number two? Gay boy number two.

Clearly the submissive one of that pair. The

blondie. Yeah, the blondie. Boomerang that sticks

right in his forehead. This guy had no idea it

was coming. I mean, that thing, that was brutal.

That was like a jaw -dropping moment while I

was watching this. I was like, what in the heck

just happened? And then the boomerang gets thrown

again, and the guy that's doing all the announcing

for the bad guys tries to put his hand up to

catch the boomerang and loses his... All of his

fingers? A majority of his fingers. He has one

hell of a boomerang. But that little kid has

like this special glove with these like metal

things on it. Don't fuck with a feral kid. No,

you don't. Don't fuck with a wild kid. You don't

fuck with a wild kid. That kid was wild. Like

Donnie from the Wild Thornberrys? They don't

fuck with that kid. That's after my time. You

don't fucks with that. You're speaking 90 cartoons,

I stop listening. That was not 90s, bro. Wild

Thornberrys? 2000s? Yeah. That was way after

I was a child. Anyways, what are things you like

most or dislike most? What was your reaction

after you saw this film? Definitely liked it

better than the first one. I thought there was

a lot less holes Like where the baby go and watching

our kid and Things like that, but I liked the

the helicopter guy. Oh, yeah, that guy was cool

and then the fact that the Gangster a stereo

kid becomes like the leader of this whole like

new -age colony now. Yeah, cuz he's not a fucking

talk way Yeah, he's given the monologue throughout

the narration throughout the film. So it's him

recounting these events and a couple other things

that I was finding looking at trivia and kind

of behind -the -scenes stuff because They were

saying that it was rumored at one point that

humongous was gonna be Mel Gibson's partner from

the first film which I think would have super

cool. Because he kind of got burned and whatnot,

so it would have explained his head and all the

veins throbbing and the kind of disfigured look

and the fact that he always has a mask on. I

thought that would have been a real cool connection

if they would have done that, but yeah, I'm with

you. I overall like this a lot more than Mad

Max. I don't dislike Mad Max, but I think this,

like you said, had less holes, less problems.

You do have to get over looking at these crazy...

Homosexual gangsters, I guess but there was some

wicked sweet 80s hair. There was some good hair

There was some good action here and there was

Mel Gibson being Mel Gibson. So I Forgot that

humongous one of his insults He called Mel Gibson

a puppy. Yeah, he's got to work on his insults

his yeah, I just felt like he was the most sensitive

speaking Big looking scary guy. Yeah. In this

movie. He was like an 80's cartoon villain or

something. He was all scary looking but then

he didn't have very good insults and he went

out like a bitch. Oh you poopy face. Yeah, you

puppy. You're such a puppy. Are you gonna pet

me? What is this? So a grade on The Road Warrior

out of five. What do you give it? I'll give it

a... 2 .5 all right you're gonna give it a 2

.5. I'm slightly higher on it than you I'm gonna

give it a 3 not much higher, but so you're at

a two and a half I'm gonna give it a 3 out of

5 and we will look forward to Closing off this

trilogy with the movie that was never planned

to be part of the trilogy Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome

So we'll get to that in a future week that gives

leads us to our two 2015 films and let's start

with the one We should start with Avengers 2

so we can be friendly at first, but I think we

have to leave that for last We're gonna start

with Ex Machina and hopefully we'll still be

speaking to each other at the end of this review.

So let's first go into what your anticipation

or what your thoughts were before you saw the

movie. The idea of going to see this movie, had

you excited, had you not excited? What kind of

an interest level did you have before you saw

the film? The first little trailer I saw, I was

like, yeah, I guess it could be cool. But then

I saw another trailer and it looked way more

action packed and exciting than I was super on

board. So I was definitely ready to see it. And

for me, it's a sci -fi film, so I'm always ready

to see a sci -fi film, unless it looks like it's

made by a couple of kids in a garage or something.

Like, if it looks like it's a second rate piece

of crap, I'm not gonna be interested in it, but

if it's a science fiction film that has anything

to it, I'm usually interested in it. And then,

obviously, Donald Gleason and Oscar Isaac are

in this, so I'm interested to see them, too.

Oscar Isaac's been on a roll for me. I've liked

everything he's been in lately. So I was definitely

excited to see this. I didn't know... you know,

outside of the fact that they're gonna be dealing

with some type of AI form, artificial intelligence,

and that it was gonna be some type of, you know,

dynamic in either, you know, there's a lot of

different things that they do with artificial

intelligence movies, whether it's trying to...

rationalize the creation of AI and whether it

should exist in human society or you know whether

the struggle of it actually existing in a society

where it's different and not natural yeah so

I mean there's been different ways that this

has been approached in different films throughout

the last 10 -20 years or even I guess if you

go all the way back to 2001 a space odyssey but

I don't suggest doing that since that's an awful

movie you can send your hate mail to me or find

me on Twitter at OptimaSolo to tell me how much

2001 A Space Odyssey is a good film and I'll

disagree with you until I'm buried because that

film was awful. But there's a lot of connections

between this film and that film. So we both somewhat

anticipating it going into it. Then you were

at the film and your first reaction when the

film was over was what? They should have done

more. I felt like I was stoked for all this stuff

to happen. All that I saw was some hollow, drab

conversations between two people through glass

and then Oscar Isaac just killing it the whole

time. I just don't get why you can think those

conversations are boring and drab. They're so

intellectually stimulating. They're not really

fleshed out, though. They're not. They're just

brief touches on these topics. I don't understand

how you say their brief touches. They have like

these very like long conversations Oscar Isaac

and Don Hogleason have these very long conversations

about what the process is, the test that they're

going through, whether you know whether he can

believe that this is whether someone would believe

that this was a real human being versus an AI

and what things need to go into that. I'm not

talking about Don Hogleason. But that all sets

up the conversations that Don Hogleason and Ava

have. That glass and that's all just kind of

tests. It's not supposed to be like these deep

conversations between them It's more like a like

he's the the scientist going in that's just trying

to probe and ask questions. It's almost like

you know When you're trying like the it's like

an initial visit between a psychologist and someone

who's going into Have help for whatever they're

gonna just do these like probing questions to

try to figure out things about that person They're

not gonna just start and just go deep into their

whole past. They have to build to that Like you

don't get that in this film because it doesn't

it all happens within one week And you're not

gonna have time to get that but he's just trying

to poke around and see if she has these traits

that would show that she's AI or if it was would

be true to human form and like there's a lot

of discussions that go in to What those things

would be then why don't they get to interact

on a deeper level as far as like? physicality

or anything if If Oscar Isaac can go in there

and be right with her in her room, why can't

they have a setup where, even in the living room

situation, where they can be face -to -face instead

of having this sterile environment? And they're

trying to build some kind of relationship in

this odd, sterile environment. I don't think

he wants them to build a relationship. I don't

think he wants them to have that connection.

He wants it to be more of an academic, more of

a... a research type thing where that's the subject,

you're the researcher, and you're kind of at

arm's length with it. He doesn't want them to

be interacting like they're humans because it

would take away from his ability to look at this

from a researcher's standpoint with a barrier

there. So he can realize that this is not, you

know, this is a test subject, this is a machine

that you're testing. But is it that big of a

deal whether there's glass there or not in the

conversations and what goes on? They're supposed

to be building this whole relationship and I

feel like... They're not supposed to be building

a relationship. No, in the premise of the movie

is they're developing something, right? Yeah.

They're developing some kind of connection and

everything that happens in this movie is based

on the connection that they have. No, the premise

is it's a test. The premise is it's that test,

the Turing test that they're trying to figure

out. If you can tell if this is an AI or not,

it's not about the relationship. It's not supposed

to be. I mean, obviously there's going to be

elements of that, and Oscar Isaac kind of teases

Don Hogleason a couple times about if he's having

feelings for him or if, you know, there's Don

Hogleason is questioning Oscar Isaac, did you

program her to be attracted to me or did you

program her to look like somebody I would be

attracted to? So there is that element. But the

basis of the movie is not about the relationship

between the two. It's about the test on if it's

real or if it's not. That's what Oscar Isaac's

main thing is. Oscar Isaac is just fucking with

him to see what his... No, Oscar Isaac wants

to know if it's something that you could... He

wants... Even though he plays a lot of mind games

and he is dishonest or vague with things with

Donald Gleason, I still think his motives are

still what he says they are at the beginning.

He wants to know if this AI can be detected or

if it would blend in as a human being. He wants

to create the best form of AI that's ever been

created, something that you could never tell

as an AI. Like, that's his dream. He wants to

be the guy that created that. But why is he keeping

all these other ones to himself? And on top of

it, to add into the test, he's got that Asian

broad that's basically like his housekeeper,

you know, slash concubine that he's got locked

up in there, that he never tells him is AI. Right.

I think that goes into more of the deeper parts

of him, of Oscar Isaac and maybe his flaws as

a person, and maybe some of his weaker things,

you know, whether it be keeping these people

as trophies or keeping them as whatever reason

he's keeping them or maybe he's keeping them

just to show the progression from one to the

other. I don't know, it never gets in there,

but I feel like it's more of kind of the deeper,

darker... you know, bad side of Oscar Isaac that

we kind of get a feeling exists, but we never

get to explore, which kind of adds to the mystery

of it. But I don't think that necessarily takes

away from what his mission is with Ava and what

his mission is. I don't think he has a pure mission

though. I think he's got all this money. I think

that's why he has this many people locked up

though. He's got all this power. That's why he

has all these AIs that are... that are locked

up because none of them have have successfully

passed that test. We don't know if Don Hall Gleason

is the first person that's been here or if Oscar

Isaac himself has been able to tell that it's

failed each time going up here. You do see some

sequences where it's Oscar Isaac just on his

own and he's destroying the things because it

hasn't passed the test so I feel like those are

all just examples of to him the different things

that have been unsuccessful like each one that

hasn't worked has been able to be detected because

they weren't exactly what he wanted you can see

them rebelling rebelling against him even with

that break in the glass from where his concubine

lady tried to punch him in the face right these

are all failures to the point where whether it

be because of how they were treated by him well

i'm not saying he's treating them the right way

or the wrong way but at the same time they're

machines and according to him You can clearly

see from Oscar Isaac's standpoint that he is

never treating these people as real human beings.

He wants them to be able to be passed off as

human beings, but he is very clear that they're

just robots and he treats them as robots. He

treats them as machines, as property, as you

would your phone or your computer or whatever.

You're not going to equate emotions and real

feelings and real human reactions to these things,

regardless of how they're interacting with you.

He goes like Thomas Jefferson on these dudes.

But if you have like a robot toy that talks and

like a robot cat or one of those for real whatever

that like meows. Panda one. Okay that meows and

you feed and you water and do whatever. He gives

you hugs. But you're still not gonna have equate

the same thing if you throw it across the room

against a wall that like oh no you're an evil

human being because you or if it breaks and you

put it on a shelf you're not a bad person because

you put it on a shelf and went out and bought

a new one. I feel bad. You might feel bad, but

but I mean that's what I'm saying. He feels like

these are just pieces of property These are just

experiments so who cares what he does with them

I mean maybe there is a darker side to why you're

keeping them in Nicole's closet or why you're

Not showing that part to downhill policing, but

maybe you don't think he needs to know about

that Maybe that's gonna cloud whatever he's doing

with Ava knowing that there's been all these

other failures. I don't know. Why is he keeping

him in his bedroom, though? Like, he's got this

whole compound. Maybe he has a sex fetish with

AIs. I don't know. He's the one that built them

so they could have sex with each other. I don't

know. Maybe there's a darker side to Oscar Isaac.

Obviously there is. But I think, oh, that's the

intriguing part. Not knowing that and trying

to think about why is he doing that. These questions

are what makes the movie stimulating and good

to me. And it's not just a boring, bland conversation

between two people with a window in front or

with a mirror in front of them or whatever. You

have to try to decide, what are Oscar's, Isaac's,

real motives or real intentions? Why is he doing

the things that he's doing? Why is he going about

it? What's the real reason for Dom Haugleson

being there? And then from Dom Haugleson's standpoint,

who does he believe? Does he believe Ava, who's

telling him one thing? Does he believe Oscar

Isaac, who's the human telling him one thing?

You know, he's just this guy that was, quote,

you know, won a lottery. Obviously, he was selected

to be there. But he was somebody that... Isaac

thought he could control and he researched up

on right But I'm but what I'm saying you had

you if you're looking at it through Gleason's

eyes and his viewpoint then it has a whole nother

element to the film of who do you believe and

You know, you're kind of a pawn in this But what

part do you play and how are you gonna, you know,

what's gonna fuel your decisions? Do you believe

Ava and try to rebel and set her free or do you?

Take the human involved in this Oscar Isaac and

Just think, yeah, this dude's fucked up or this

dude's somewhat crazy, but I'm still gonna play

the game. I'm only here for a week. I'm just

gonna do my job and go home. You know, obviously

he makes the wrong decision at some point. I'm

not gonna spoil anything, but he clearly doesn't

have things resolved how he wants them to be

resolved. And then you but you're going into

this thinking that I hate this movie, and I don't

hate it I'm just saying if you want the cerebral

film don't set it up where I can sit here and

guess what's gonna happen You can't guess what's

gonna happen. Okay? How many times did I turn

to you in my murder? No, but you nobody nobody

we didn't I don't want to get into spoilers,

but There you didn't guess everything that was

all the different turns at the end it came to

a point where there was some turns Yeah, but

I was you could you could I mean I don't understand

what you're saying is predictable predictable

that You know this guy has bad motives. Not necessarily.

I still don't think he had bad motives. I still

don't believe Oscar Isaac had bad motives in

this film. He's not as twisted. I mean he was

he a twisted human being is he an imperfect human

being absolutely But that doesn't mean he has

bad motives the most Genius people in the world

that have created some of the most genius things

in the world are crazy people But he set this

up in the most shady possible way because maybe

in a science experiment you have to control everything

It wasn't a completely blind experiment. No because

he kept putting these little fucking seeds of

either doubt or information into Gleason's head

to try to manipulate this process. Yeah, he's

running a controlled experiment. He needs it

isolated. He needs it closed off to the outside

world. He needs to control Gleason at some point.

He needs to control Ava. He needs to control

everything so he can figure out whatever he's

figuring out. Yeah, you can question the motive

or the means, but I think his end motives are

not necessarily bad. He's trying to create...

I mean, it depends on your view on, and I'm not

saying I agree or disagree, but it depends on

your view of the creation of artificial intelligence.

You know, if you believe artificial intelligence

should be something that we create and have in

our world, or if you think it's not, that's a

different argument. But if you're going under

the assumption that it's fine and that artificial

intelligence is okay to exist, then his motives

are to create the perfect version of that. How

is that a bad motive? Why would you create something

that's humanoid? Something that can be a human

and then treat it like a machine? Because you're

in the experimental process of trying to perfect

it. So you have to go through these different

things. It's not a person. It's still a computer

in his mind. It's still an object. So, if you're

trying to create something, you can manipulate

that object until you get... If you're writing

a computer program, you can delete it, you can

trash it, you can do whatever you want if it

doesn't work, and then you're gonna go back to

the square one and try to reprogram that computer

program. So why would you keep treating it like

an object if you want it to evolve from that?

That's his goal, is to make sure that it can

pass as human. Because he's gotta make sure the

program is written right first. He's already

got that down. No, he doesn't. That's what this

test is, to see if he has the program down or

not. It's failed seven or ten times. point if

he's bringing in an outsider to test it, he's

in his final stages. Yeah, so it's a final test.

So you need to treat it as such. I don't think

so. What are you trying to argue about it then?

I don't think you have to treat it as such. What

is your point? I'm just saying, I don't question

his motives and what he's trying to create. I'm

not questioning it either. I can see face value

what he's doing. He's a twisted dude. And I don't

think it's bad. He's twisted, but I don't think

what he's doing is bad. But he can burn it up

on the dance floor. He can burn it up on the

dance floor. So what were your favorite parts

of this film? Obviously, my favorite part was

everybody else's favorite part. the dance floor

scene. That is probably, I usually, Dan did it

last year, but the year before I did my top 20

or 30 scenes from the year, from all films, and

this is a front runner already for this year.

That's a great scene when he's just getting it

on the dance floor. Oscar Isaac is amazing in

this whole film. I think I didn't really connect

with him and I didn't understand a lot of what

he was doing in Most Violent Year, but... But

to go from that character to this character.

I think it redeemed his qualities in my eyes.

I don't think he needed to be redeemed. I'm just

thinking that shows two completely stark contrast

of characters. That's your opinion. What did

I just say? I didn't like him in A Most Violent

Year, but after seeing him in this, I'm like,

cool, bro, you're getting it. You're doing something

right with your life. But you can not like A

Most Violent Year, but he's still... I'm talking

about his character. I didn't say anything about

the whole film. Okay. Shut your mouth. I'm just

saying that he was a good actor in both films.

Regardless of if you care about one film or not.

He was a good actor in both films He did gave

two great performances that are very stark Contrasting

each other. So that's my point regardless of

how you feel about most by the year, even if

it's wrong or not So as far as Donald Gleason,

you liked him. You didn't like him. I liked him

I definitely still want to see that time travel

movie that he's in with Rachel I don't remember

the red -haired lady from the notebook Yeah,

okay, so I think Seeing him in two different

roles like that will be pretty cool especially

coming off of this film and I liked him I thought

he gave a good performance thought he was convincing

and Relatable and like I could connect with them

and I vested in him Think that's one of the major

things this movie has going for it like everybody

else is saying that's reviewing this is the performances

from the three three people involved I think

they're all pretty Remarkable, I think they're

believable. I think they're very different all

three of them are definitely showing you different

spectrums of this whole idea and of the whole

themes that are going under the underlying themes

like They all have different motives, and they

all have different backgrounds and experiences,

and I think it's just interesting how they all

kind of play off each other. So I definitely

think all the performances are great. I actually

agree. I'm not usually someone that likes or

even notices soundtracks or the musical themes

or scores for movies, but I did notice it in

this one, and I actually thought it enhanced

the film a little bit. I liked the music and

the score in the background. I don't know if

you noticed it when you were watching it or not.

Yeah Yep, that's all you gotta say about that.

Yeah, I'm not huge on scores though either But

I can definitely tell if it's gonna if it's hurting

or helping the mood Right, it didn't take me

out of it. Something like Under the Skin, as

much as people want to rave about the score of

that, that took me out of that film even more

than the awful film did. And this one definitely

only enhanced it. So I appreciated the score.

And just overall, like I said, I didn't have

as many issues as you did with this one. I definitely

think this is one of the best films I've seen

this year. For a score out of five, I would probably

be giving this one... Probably a... Four... Four

to four and a half, somewhere in there. Maybe

four and a half feels a bit high, but four feels

a bit low. So I guess I'm somewhere in between

there. So what about you? I'll give it a 3 .5.

3 .5. Alright, so you didn't hate it as much

as it seemed. No, you just think that I can't

enjoy strictly cerebral movies. No, you have

a tendency to like more adventure action type

genres than you do dramas, and that's nothing

bad. I like sci -fi movies, and I want some crazy

shit to pop off. See, I don't necessarily need

that in my sci -fi. I do like that in some sci

-fi movies, but I don't necessarily need it in

all of them. It's something like her from...

A couple years ago, there was something that

definitely doesn't have action going at you,

but it's definitely a sci -fi film that has a

lot of other things going. I like to think about

all those different themes. Three and a half

for you, four and a half for me, and we have

one more film to... talk about, and that is of

course the one that everybody's talking about

this weekend. Probably every podcast or review

that you go to is going to have something about

this, so let's get into something that we're

going to somewhat agree on even more, and that

would be Avengers 2 Age of Ultron. Your level

of excitement going into this was? Ten. Ten out

of? Ten. Ten out of ten. I would probably be

a nine out of ten for it. I'm not going to be

as excited as I would be for something like Star

Wars, because I'm more of a Star Wars geek than

a Marvel geek, but... I'd still say I have at

least a 9 out of 10 excited for Avengers 2. Don't

give me that evil eye. I can't help it that I

like Star Wars more. But you can appreciate the

freaking comic book movies. I do appreciate the

comic book movies, but I don't have the same

connection to the animated series or the actual

comic book, so it's just a tiny bit under Star

Wars as far as excitement goes. But we're both

very much excited to go see this. It's also been

a long time since I've been in a theater that

was packed. To the basinkas to watch a movie

like not a seat empty in the place and this was

at a 9 a .m. Showing 930 before the doors even

open they had a meeting who schedules a meeting

the morning of the weekend that Avengers comes

out. They had a sign on the door that said the

doors will unlock at 9 o 'clock, and they didn't

even unlock at 9 o 'clock because there was still

a meeting going on. Anyways, the movie started

at 9 .30, packed theater. I will say, though,

for the first time in a long time, I guess I'm

not at a lot of packed theater, so I shouldn't

say I have a lot of experience with it. But when

I am, there's usually something annoying about

it. And the theater audience was pretty well

behaved at this one. You had to be some diehards

if you're going to go see Avengers at 9 .30 in

the morning on a Saturday, I think. But there

was no phones going off. There was no obnoxiously

loud people talking through the whole movie.

There was not many distractions, I didn't think.

Besides people, myself included, getting up and

going to the bathroom or something. That was

about the only distraction probably for anybody.

Which is amazing to me that I stuck it out and

you didn't. Yes, you do have a much smaller bladder

than I do. I don't want to miss anything. We're

talking about bladder size here on Weekend at

the Movies. So we're obviously very excited going

into this and we'll just cut to the chase. What

was your first reaction after the movie was over?

Minus my yawn. The excitement in that yawn is

immense. A lot of excitement yesterday. Positive

or negative reaction coming out? I don't know

if I knew exactly how to react when I came out

of it. I thought it was really good but I don't

think it completely blew my mind. I don't think

it matched up to the first one. Yeah, I'm gonna

echo that. I don't think it's quite as good as

the first Avengers. I think there's a few more

holes here and there in the film. Overall, does

it fit with everything Marvel's been doing? Yeah,

I think so. I mean, I don't think it's a misstep.

I don't think it's the first failure that we've

all been waiting for Marvel to have. Like, not

that we want that to happen, but we're all waiting

for that first disaster film from a Marvel Cinematic

Universe, and this is not it. It's... it's going

to be in the mix. We'll talk about kind of how

we rank it among other Marvel films once we get

to the end of this, but let's get to the good

parts first. What are the things you, and this

will have spoilers in it. I'm just going to say

that right away. We're going to have spoilers

in this discussion at some point because 180

million people have already seen this film or

something like that. So if you haven't seen it,

I'm sorry, go see it and then listen to this,

but there will be spoilers throughout. So what

are your favorite things about the Avengers Age

of Ultron? Putting me on the spot first. What

characters did you like best? What moments did

you like best? Obviously I'm gonna go for Thor

as my my main bro. Your main bro? Not your cousin?

Not my cousin, my bro. I just learned me some

Thor and like you touched on before I think a

lot of things tie into Thor's you know story

and I think Thor doesn't get enough respect.

If you look at the Marvel Cinematic Universe

and everything we've gotten from Iron Man through

now, however many films that's been, 11, 12,

something like that, there is no character storyline

that is more important to this universe than

Thor's. Some people might argue Iron Man But

it literally all revolves around the Thor storyline.

I mean Loki is the main villain in the first

Avengers. You have all of the idea that there's

a presence, an otherworldly presence that's threatening

you. That's not existent without Thor's storyline.

And they're always alluding back to that, like,

oh we're doing this because we know that... this

other realm exists. And it all has to do with

the objects from Thor's universe, whether it

be, you know, the Infinity Stones or the Tesseract

or whatever it is. Like, all things tie back

to Thor, so people need to give Thor more respect.

Those Thor movies were better than people give

him credit for. I know everybody likes to love

our Captain America and Iron Man, but Thor is

very important to this whole franchise. So, I'm

sorry, but continue. What other things did you

like about it? I like the humor that they had

in this I I like the banter between them a little

bit more I feel like it showed the fact that

they have made relationships and not They're

not just this ragtag bunch of Superhumans or

whatever you want to call them thrown in together.

I like that Even the language that they kept,

you know messing with Captain America and I like

how their humor tied them all together, and I

liked Jeremy Renner's little rant about killing

Quicksilver or whatever. Nobody would even know.

Ultron could just be sitting on him or whatever.

Yeah, that's definitely a funny part. I think

besides... Go sleep, go sleep, go sleep! Yeah,

besides Jeremy Renner talking about killing Quicksilver,

I think my funniest moment was when Iron Man

is punching. the Hulk and telling him to go to

sleep over and over and over again. That was

definitely hilarious. Yeah, I think humor was

great in this film. I don't think there was too

many jokes that fell flat or too many things.

You know, obviously with Iron Man you're gonna

get a bunch of quips. I guess I wasn't prepared

for the number of snarky comments we would get

from Ultron himself. Granted, I realize he's

a creation of Tony Stark in this version of the

story and that he's gonna have elements that

are... connected to that, so that's probably

why he's a smartass, but just based on the previews

and stuff, I was expecting him to be much less

talkative. Like more cold and calculated. Yeah,

more cold, more calculating, like where words

were few and far between, but when they happened

they had a lot of weight to them, and instead

we get words that a lot of times don't matter

too much because it's just him being a smartass.

Like he's a lot more talkative than I thought

he would be. And I feel like if they would have

given him time to actually be... with Tony Stark

instead of just learning about him from internet

videos or whatever that he could have been something

more and I feel like that his personality traits

that are coming out that are like Tony Stark's

through his words would have been more valid.

Well I think that kind of leads to probably for

me the biggest flaw in this film and that is

the creation of Ultron. I get that we have these

super scientists in Tony Stark and Bruce Banner

that are fiddling around and trying to create

this based on the staff and everything and with

connection to Jarvis and whatnot and that they're

failing and kind of still working on it and then

they go to this party and I think it was way

too rushed in number one how Ultron is created

and number two how Ultron gets to the idea that

Humans and the world needs to be destroyed like

I just I think they could have spent more time

developing that I just think it was way too quick

like he sees he does an internet search and then

uploads all these videos and data and everything

and then immediately he interprets peace as you

know peace for the world being that humans are

gone and I just think there should have been

something there should have been an event there

should have been a Certain thing that he saw

besides just a couple videos of war that brought

him to that and I think there was other things

that could have been left out of the film that

would have allowed more time to be spent on that.

For example, I didn't care, or it didn't really

have an impact on me, the whole idea of introducing

Hawkeye's family. Like, I don't need to know

that he has a bunch of kids and a wife and a

farmhouse somewhere. I don't care about that

whole angle at all, so we could have spent those

minutes instead developing Ultron, and I would

have been fine with that. At least with like,

the fifth element, when Leeloo is on... in essentially

what would be maybe like the internet or you

know like a video database of you know encyclopedia

knowledge or history or whatever she's still

forming relationships with people and learning

herself and connecting to things and trying to

figure out the connection between her and her

role based on what she's seeing these awful images

and what she's experiencing herself And I feel

like if they would have shown, you know, the

reason why Ultron all of a sudden was like, you

know, I just need white people out. Yeah, I just

think that was a little bit rushed. And the only

reason it would have been okay to show all of

the Hawkeye stuff with his family and all that

was if they would have killed him. I was somewhat,

you know, thinking that he was for sure gonna

be the one that gets killed since we all now

have this, like, connection where people can

be emotionally invested in the fact that he has

kids and a wife and all of a sudden that makes

it more tragic, I guess, if he dies. compared

to if you don't have that. I guess if you don't

have that, it's not tragic when you die, is the

saying. If that would have been the angle, then

maybe I could forgive him for having that scene,

but really that scene and the whole family dynamic

for Hake does nothing for this whole story for

me. I didn't need that. And I also was a little

disappointed that, again, we're having spoilers

here, but I'm disappointed that none of the main

characters die again. I mean, this is 11 movies

into this thing, and we have yet to have a character

die. I'm not morbid, but like even when they're

setting up like oh, these are the new Avengers

It's nobody that's from the original really except

the people who are gonna essentially like walk

them along And if you're so why couldn't you

kill off one of those characters if you're gonna

reintroduce some new Avengers, right? If you're

getting a new team reason not just think oh,

I'm bowed out. I'm done with this guys Well,

it's fine if a couple of people are doing that

if it's it's fine if if you know Like let's say

Iron Man's gonna fade off and just do you know,

whatever? try to do some other technological

thing, or if Captain America's gonna fade into

the distance and do this. Like, that's fine if

a couple of them do that, but if you're just

having like, oh, all of them are gonna fade into

the distance, and one of them's gonna train this

new group of Avengers. Like, you don't need all

of them to still be alive. And if... It's not...

It doesn't make up for it if all you're doing

is killing a new character. Like, introducing

a character and then killing them in the film

has no impact. It's not the same as killing one

of the main, like... Hulk could have died He

can't die physically he can't die No, but I'm

just saying like I mean saying the character

could have been killed off somehow if it's capable

of killing But I'm just saying like Iron Man,

you know, he's the he's the first person that's

ever been here as far as introduced in the whole

cinematic universe He could have been killed

off. I thought for a long time they were gonna

Would never want them to kill Thor off because

he has too many connections to what else is gonna

be happening But I like one of these people winning

Hawkeye could have been killed like that's fine

You know one of those guys could have been killed

to have the only person killed be killed as Quicksilver

Who just got introduced into the film? That's

weak like kill one of the main people don't introduce

a character just to kill him off like that doesn't

have the same impact for me So we touch on Scarlet

Witch. I thought she was pretty cool and her

powers were you know pretty well done But is

this supposed to be tied into the x -men universe

at some point so why are they introducing? Magneto's

daughter and the Avengers. I don't get this one

of the somebody else Why are you pulling in these

characters? I? Mean, I don't know that there

had to be some type of rationale for that I know

that they're the only two characters or two of

the only characters that can be used in both

franchises based on legalities A lot of the other

characters can't be But I don't know why they

were choosing to connect these two specifically

I don't know if it was just her powers that they

needed or if there was no substitute for that

I'm not sure and I'm not sure if they're gonna

explain eventually The actual family origin instead

of just like my family's my family was killed

that doesn't necessarily say that they're still

not a connection to Magneto Per se but they kind

of gloss over that so I'm not really sure well

Then they're testing like oh we volunteered to

get these powers right so wasn't scarlet witch

born with that innate power until she went into

puberty? See this is my comic book ignorance

going in there because since I don't read the

comic books I don't know what the what the backstory

is for these so someone will have to correct

us on that or fill us in I don't know if there's

multiple storylines for Scarlet Witch or if there's

just one main history backstory and I don't know

if Like Quicksilver, for example. I don't know

if you can rationalize Quicksilver's appearance

in X -Men Days of Future Past and his appearance

here as both fitting in. Not saying they're both

in the same universe since they're obviously

different actors and characters, etc. But if

they're both okay based on the original backstory

of that character or not. I don't know. It gets

kind of dicey with those two characters for sure.

But did you like both of them as far as new people

that you saw there? I did. I feel like Quicksilver

could have been utilized maybe a little bit more.

More than he was I guess but I think he was maybe

the weakest character for me. I can see that

in a way Going into what they shape up because

we're talking about the new Avengers that group

that kind of Assembles even though they don't

say Avengers assemble at the end. What did you

think of that collection of people? You had war

machine you have a falcon you got scarlet witch

Who else was in that group there? Well then there

was Captain America and Scarlett Johansson. Black

Widow still. So what did you think of that group

as a new group of Avengers? Two of them rely

on the technology. See I'd be fine with it. I

think Scarlet Witch works and I think Falcon

works. My question is War Machine because Dude

is old. Brody is old. Dude looks old. Brody is

road hard. Yeah, like he was he was he's more

part of that first generation to me He's not

like a young up -and -comer guy type guy where

I can buy it with Anthony Mackie But with Don

Cheadle it's too hard for me to accept that he's

gonna be part of the new group like no this dude's

old. Well plus he was like the most made a joke.

Right. In the film. Like I get if it's you know

like even if it was Hawkeye and and Black Widow,

Scarlet Witch, Falcon, and Captain America, that'd

be fine with me. I don't necessarily understand

War Machine being involved in that, but I don't

know, I thought it was interesting how they all

came together and kind of showed up as this new

team. I don't think anybody's gonna take that

team over the original team, though. No. We have

a god and a Hulk. Exactly, and you got an RDJ.

What about getting more at... to the character

of Ultron. We talked about how he was rushed

and created, and maybe they could have spent

more time with that, but with what they did,

and let's say we get past the point where, okay,

he has this vendetta against the human race.

From that point on, what were your feelings about

James Spader's Ultron? I think the first vision

of him was pretty powerful and creepy and...

Oh, we forgot the other... Thanks for using that

word. We forgot the other guy that's in... involved

in the new Avengers. Vision. Oh yeah, we can

touch on him after. Alright, we'll talk about

him in a second. Sorry, Ultron. His initial vision.

I think the initial viewing of him, like when

he's all, you know, this rag -tad, put -together,

broke -down machine with this, you know, the

hydraulic fluid leaking all over the place and,

you know, whatever, and how... broke down he

is, it's so creepy and I'm still scared of him

even though he looks like you can just wreck

him, you know what I mean? Yeah, I wish he had

a different weapon than just his clones. That's

all he's got. He doesn't have like laser eyes.

I want him to have some type of weapon. Like

his arm can't turn into some weapon. I want him

to go Terminator style and just be like... Yeah.

But he, like you said before, he... That's all

he's got is his clones. Like he doesn't really

do a whole lot of damage when he actually like

does some damage I feel like the most of it is

when he's already been fucked up and he's in

a plane This guy is a machine and he's got to

get in a plane and shoot people with the plane

guns. It's almost as funny as Hulk trying to

pilot a plane in Hulk form when he was in the

cockpit. He didn't. He was just like, I'm just

going to chill. I'm just going to touch this.

But yeah, that's my biggest thing is I don't

think he did enough damage. It wasn't as threatening.

Like, yeah, I'm going to send a bunch of my little

clone guys at you. But I feel like he didn't

do as much, which I could have appreciated if

he would have had more of an effect himself personally.

But I mean I still kind of out of like Marvel

villains because that's something that Marvel

gets Bashed on a lot is they don't have high

quality villains outside of like Loki You know

most of the other villains have had some type

of negative Critique about them. I think he's

better than a lot of them. We've gotten I don't

think he's Loki style, but he's decent It's not

on Loki level. Loki level. But let's go back

to Vision. Your power isn't level Loki. What

was your thoughts about Vision? I thought he

looked fucking cheesy as shit. Like you got some

grease paint on and some weak ass prosthetics

over your ears. You're made out of what? One

of the most powerful metals or whatever it was?

What is that? Vibranium or whatever? You're made

out of this cool -ass metal plus flesh. I thought

he looked cool. I thought he looked cheesy as

shit. I liked his look. I liked his little, his

little, what's the guy in Mike Tyson that has

the little jewel? The mind stone? The mind stone

is like the guy in Mike Tyson's Punch -Out where

you just watch for that blinking and then you

know he's about to fuck you up. But no, I like

that and I like the scene where him and Iron

Man and Thor are all kind of... Fucking up all

trying together. Yeah, it's like triple laser

effect. You're done sir. I feel like he should

have been Way more fucked up after that though.

He does add a much higher level to that new Avengers

team though Like it's better with him in it.

I think he's more of a badass like he's more

of a godlike creature so it can maybe help the

fact that Thor, Iron Man aren't involved. He's

more likened to Dr. Manhattan in The Watchmen.

Yeah, that's what I thought, without the blue

wang. Without the wang. Because if you think

about it, if Captain America is still there,

and you're just switching Iron Man out for War

Machine, and... Hawkeye for... I don't know.

Like, a lot of them kind of have similar things.

I guess Vision would be the replacement for Thor,

I guess. That's as close as you're gonna get.

They don't have the muscle, though. They don't

have Hulk. Dude, Thor and the Hulk brought the

pain. And of course we can't not mention the

funny moments with the hammer. Oh my god. There's

an awesome scene where they're all sitting around

a table and they're all taking turns trying to

lift up Thor's hammer and that is, that's awesome.

Especially when Captain America kind of budges

it a little bit and Thor gets all scared. His

face is just epic. That's acting to the tease,

too. Yeah, he has great facial expressions from

Hemsworth. And then, of course, you have... I

know you didn't like it, but I thought it was

hilarious then, especially, again, with Hemsworth's

facial reaction when... They don't know what

to make of Vision. They're all kind of in that

group and they don't really know what to make

of him, if he's good or bad or whatever. And

once they're kind of, they know he's on his side

and then he just like hands Thor his hammer and

they're all just like, fuck. I didn't want that

though. I don't like that. I thought that was

cool. Don't let him do that. I thought it was

a cool way to show that this guy can hold his

own. We'll take him. You are worthy. And he had

the Mind Stone so you can't, you know, you can

kind of pass it off that he couldn't do it without

that maybe. That's in him, right? That's not

something you can just like take off and I don't

know I don't know if that's something removable

or not if that's just where it is because he

says you trust him with it So it seems like there's

an option maybe at some point there would be

an option to get it out of him or something Because

they're they're like it'll be safe with him.

I trust him with it I mean obviously it does

a good job setting up the whole infinity stone

It's not just a stone that somebody can come

pick up in and use for good or evil It's actually

got its own defense system, right? Thanks, and

they do set up obviously the whole Infinity stones

and where that's gonna go. Obviously the end

credit scene involves Thanos and again I'm gonna

say what I said to you earlier. I can't get over

there how cheesy Thanos looks like. You think

vision looks cheesy? I think Thanos looks cheesy.

He doesn't look scary or imposing at all. He's

just a big... I just questioned that they built

this whole universe around him as the biggest

baddest villain. Like he's pulling all the strings.

Right and I think they could have used somebody

that was more visually intimidating and... I

don't know, I just don't. Even the dude from

Guardians, even though he wasn't used as well,

to me is a more intimidating looking person than

Thanos was. The guy that's... The blue guy? No,

the guy with the cloak and everything. Yeah,

he's blue and they put all this powder and weird

stuff on his body. Yeah, I thought he was more

intimidating than Thanos looks. I don't know.

but we'll see how that all plays out. Obviously

that's something that's coming up. Any other

negatives or anything that you didn't get to

talk about with Avengers 2 Age of Ultron? No,

I think that wraps it up. We did talk a little

bit about the whole plot device of lifting up

the earth. Lifting up that city or whatever and

dropping it. Oh, yeah It didn't have the it didn't

have the dramatic effect that the disaster in

Avengers 1 had it didn't you know, it's not something

otherworldly It's not something that you didn't

feel the threat for the whole world even though

they set it up as some global disaster You didn't

really get that feeling. They're just like oh

we're gonna drop this city and it's gonna kill

the entire planet Yeah, there was never a showing

or a realistic Picture of the fear for the whole

globe or for like people in other countries It

was just like we're gonna drop this and we're

gonna tell you that it's gonna destroy, you know

from this level It's gonna destroy thousands

from this level. It's gonna destroy millions

from this level. It's gonna wipe out the whole

world It's just hard to buy like that cheesy

way of showing on the world news Like they're

seeing the city lift up in other countries. Well,

you almost needed something where it was like

a certain level I mean, I'm not for someone to

like put like a Text or something on a screen,

but it was there was I think the reason it didn't

have that big of an impact is because we got

The feeling that at different elevations it would

have a different impact, but we never know what

elevation they're at Except that one place like

at this height I could still kill billions or

whatever right But I almost like needed either

more dialogue or something that was like one

of the Avengers or somebody was tracking it like

Nick Fury or somebody because we never kind of

got to look at him after he gets introduced besides

when he shows up with a thing, but Maybe they

could have been back at the ship and been like,

you know, you're 100 feet until this or you got

to stop it in the next 500 feet or Or whatever

like there was yeah, there was no like there

was no tracking of how high we are and at what

point it becomes a disaster so I don't know I

just didn't feel like it was as as intimidating

or as you know, the impending doom Yeah, the

impending doom wasn't as effective as it was

in the first Avengers. So and it's it's also

too similar to me as to I mean, I know it's different

because you're lifting up a portion of the earth

and gonna drop it But just the whole idea that

something's rising up towards the sky almost

kind of like that portal was in the Avengers

It's already in the sky But I'm just saying like

the whole idea of something from the from the

earth going up towards towards space in a way

like I don't know it seemed like Too similar,

but not as good for me. I don't know anything

else you wanted to bring up I think we touched

on everything. I think that maybe the vision

was my weakest link in this movie. I disagree

with that part. But as far as excitement going

forward to the next movie in the Marvel Universe,

not necessarily talking about Ant -Man, but going

on through, like, in the next Captain America

or even heading up to the Avengers movies next,

does it leave you on a high note? You're still

going to be anticipating that? Or is it kind

of a drop -off now? Yeah, I'm still excited.

I like the franchise. I did enjoy this movie.

I think entertainment level, you know, was very

high. There was never a point where I was like,

is this over yet? I was, you know, thoroughly

entertained throughout and I know that you didn't

really like seeing or you didn't really care

for seeing the, you know, Hawkeye family, but

I thought it was cool that they, you know, fleshed

out the relationship between him and Natasha

a little bit more. I thought that was kind of

cool, so. The only oh another thing is hit the

lullaby with the Hulk like before he was like

bashing the crap out of her and all of a sudden

she was super terrified of him and Then now she's

like I'm gonna get right in your face and touch

you and you're gonna be okay You're gonna turn

back in a normal guy Yeah, we didn't really get

the development of what what made that something

that was possible So or the whole love angle

between those two between you know being terrified

and being fully trusting of each other, so maybe

another plot hole that some people would have

for this film. So as far as an overall ranking

for Avengers 2, where would you go with this

one? Um, in regards to the first one, or just...

Just out of a 5 scale, where are you putting

Avengers 2? I'll say 4 .5. I was digging it.

Alright, 4 .5 for you. I'm going to go just slightly

under that with a 4 out of 5. I think there was

enough plot holes to knock it off of the 5 or

the 4 .5 range, so I'm going to go with a 4.

but definitely worth the scene and not a misstep

by Marvel still. Still a good film. If you were

putting it within all the other Marvel films,

where is it? Is it towards the top, in the middle,

at the bottom? You don't necessarily have to

list them all, but where do you think it would

fit out of the 11 or 12 films that have been

going on so far? I'd say somewhere in the middle

towards the top. Yeah, I think it's maybe in

the top half, but real close to the middle for

me too. I think there's been at least four or

five films that are probably better than it.

But there's some films that are worse than that,

too. All right. That does it for the main attraction

part of the show. Just real quick, what to look

for coming out next week. Like we said, there's

not going to be much of a change at the box office.

Nothing's trying to compete with Avengers in

the second week. You have Maggie with Arnold

Schwarzenegger. Which I think looks pretty cool.

Abigail Breslin coming out May 8th. You have

Five Flights Up starring Morgan Freeman. You

have the awful, terrible looking... Reese Witherspoon

in Hot Pursuit. If anybody sees that film, I'm

unfollowing you, unfriending you, and acting

like you don't exist anymore. The D Train, Jack

Black, and Skin Trade with Tony Jaa. That's the

one coming out May 8th as well. We just talked

about it, wasn't it? So those are the films coming

out in theater or on demand here. Next week of

actually quite a bunch stuff coming out here

in a couple days You have already on DVD Anna

Kendrick in the last five years You have The

Lost River being released you have Clint Eastwood

7 movie collection being released from Universal

Pictures on Blu -ray. I'm not sure what the seven

films are, but that might be something that some

people would be interested in. From 2014, you

have Mr. Turner being released on Blu -ray. You

also have a Selma combo pack being released.

So quite a bit of stuff that's coming out if

you're looking for something to add to your Blu

-ray collection. And oh, also Black Sea, which

is from 2015, which I've been looking forward

to seeing. That is coming out in a combo pack

as well as the 2015 film Black or White. So you

have a bunch of different options from 2015 or

2014 as far as things that you can watch. So

as far as the seven movies in that Clint Eastwood

Universal Pictures set, you have Two Mules for

Sister Sarah, Joe Kidd, High Plains Drifter,

Coogan's Bluff, The Beguiled, Play Misty for

Me, and The Eiger Sanction. So I guess if you're

a die -hard Clint Eastwood fan, you'll be all

over that. As far as a question for next week,

obviously we just want your reactions about Avengers

2 and where it ranks in the Marvel movie universe.

So rank it for us. You can rank all the Marvel

movies, or you can just give us where, what slot

Avengers 2 fits in. Is it the third best Marvel

movie, the fifth best, the seventh best? Where

does it rank? for you. So that's it for us. Thanks

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