Top Sci-Fi and Fantasy Films of the Half-Decade

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at the Movies, will there only be five Best Picture

nominees next year at the Oscars? Is Netflix

changing the movie game? And our first half,

our first list of our first half decade countdowns

as we go through our top ten science fiction

and fantasy films of the last five years. All

that and more coming up on Weekend at the Movies.

Alright, thanks for joining us today at Weekend

at the Movies for a special episode where we

are beginning our journey that we're taking in

2015 of doing a whole bunch of look -backs at

the half -decade. So 2010 through 2014, we're

going to be counting down some different things

throughout the course of 2015. We're starting

today with science fiction and fantasy films.

We will have a bunch of other genres. We're going

to go through animated films, comic book films.

some drip obviously the standards drama action

comedy and then we're going to end the year by

going through uh... our top actors of the half

-decade our top actresses of the half -decade

and then a two -parter as we count down the top

fifty films of the decades so far so that's what

we're gonna be doing throughout two thousand

fifteen we're kicking it off today and for each

one of these episodes we're gonna be bringing

on some coup some special guest to help us count

these things down So I'll just kind of introduce

the panel for us today. Obviously. I'm here movie

revolt Dan is here. Hello, Dan. Hey, how's it

going? Matt Fridley is here. Hello. Hey and Joining

us from the true bromance podcast is Hiro. Hello.

Hiro. What's up fellas? Not much glad to have

you on here. I believe this is the first time

you've been on this version of the show Yes,

this is my first time go So what's a good one

to be on so I am very much looking forward to

this conversation that we get to once we get

to our top 10 list because I've listened to a

lot of True Romance episodes. Obviously, Dan

and I have recorded quite a few episodes together

and we know each other's movies taste somewhat.

I also know some of Matt's interests. You guys

aren't all aware of each other's interests, but

we're going to... have some differences. I guarantee

as we go through this list, it's going to be

interesting to see as Dan and Hiro go at it,

as me and Dan go at it. We're all going to have

different things where we're going to disagree

big time, but it should be a fun conversation

along the way. Before we get into any of that,

let's just go quickly around the table here as

far as what we've seen this week. Hiro, I understand

you guys do this on your podcast, so if you want

to save some of those for your own podcast, I

totally understand. uh... but let's make that

decision but they're there you're going to just

cutting me off and like look higher no really

don't want to speak much no i'd love you know

i'd love you to speak but i don't i don't want

to try to steal your guys thunder since i know

we have a similar segment and i worries man i'd

uh... i'm going to be watching tons of movies

anyways i did uh... my wife's going out of town

so i'll be having uh... she had a movie to talk

about a while we can i curse i forgot yes okay

awesome All right, so we'll start with Dan. How's

your week been going and have you seen any movies

in the last week? Weeks going good. Actually,

it was off work today because we got a good 10

inches of snow. It won't stop. Yeah, I know.

It's like the rocky. Right when you think it's

dead, it just comes back to life again. But yeah,

so I did get to watch a few movies. I was kind

of worried. didn't have much, but I'll just briefly

talk about some stuff I did get to see in the

first being a documentary from last year that

I missed that's finally available on Netflix,

and that's The Overnighters. I don't know if

you guys know about this, but it's on Netflix,

and it's about this town, North Dakota, the town

of North Dakota, where jobs are kind of exploded

because of different mining and fracking and

things like that, and it's caused this huge flood

of people, kind of like an upgraded... version

of Grapes of Wrath in a lot of ways to come seeking

jobs because they're available, but there's a

lot of jobs but not a lot of places to stay.

So this guy in The Overnighters, he runs this

church and he ends up kind of designing this

program where guys and men can sleep in his church

and sleep in his parking lot overnight because

there's nowhere to stay because the rent is ridiculously

expensive and they're not really building anything

because they feel like the jobs aren't there

to last so they don't want to build homes that

will just kind of go away and they have all these

ordinances where you can't have RVs so it's really

difficult to find a place to stay and people

are just coming here because they have nowhere

else to go. So it kind of chronicles this guy

and this program. What becomes rather interesting

is that a lot of the people he brings in, they

come from questionable pasts. Some have felonies,

some maybe even sexual offenders, and at one

point he brings a guy into his home, and it kind

of goes on. There's a huge kind of outlash. with

the community there. They don't really want those

people staying. They feel it's dangerous. And

it's rather interesting because it doesn't really

get in politics at all. It's just a really human

story. And it's really a difficult story, too,

where there's no right or wrong answers. And

it gets a couple of twists and turns, just the

right amount, where it kind of makes you think,

OK, I'm rooting for this guy. He's clearly making

the right decision here. But then you're like,

oh, maybe he's really being selfish. And maybe

this isn't smart. So it's a really good documentary.

I actually really loved it a lot. It has everything

I like in a good doc. Which sounds disgusting,

doesn't mean it that way. I would highly recommend

it. It probably would have made my top ten documentaries

of 2014 if I saw it in time. Probably my top

five. I still like Rich Hill and 12 O 'Clock

Boys more, but it's quite good. I did watch Big

Hero 6. Not much to say about it except for I

don't mind that it won the Oscar. It's not good

as a Lego movie, but I don't think it's remarkably

that much worse than How to Train Your Dragon

2. They're pretty on par with one another. Great

animation. Did you get to see the Princess Kaguya

and any of those other ones? I have not seen

those others, or Song of the Sea. But when compared

to How to Train Your Dragon 2, I don't think

it's... I think How to Train Your Dragon 2 is

better, but I like the animation in Big Hero

6 more. Big Hero 6 kind of has, the story is

pretty generic, but Baymax is a really cool character,

so that's pretty awesome. I've literally made

three trips to Redbox now to try to get Big Hero

6. And I've had no luck, so maybe next week.

Just buy it, it's worth it. Yeah, it's you know

I have a little bit of time. We're not to our

animated list yet So I've got to make sure I've

seen it before that but it's kind of and that's

kind of why I watched my next movie which was

the ring rises which because I was trying to

think ahead and get up to the animated list once

we get there and I'll save that because we might

talk about that later on, but I enjoyed it. It's

not my favorite studio Ghibli film It's kind

of weird because it's like a like a biopic animated

film, which is different You know you're you're

expecting kind of like monsters and more unique

designs when it comes to studio Go Ghibli, but

it's really like a straightforward drama. The

last thing I saw was this weird movie on Netflix

called Parallels, which I watched because it

was one science fiction film from this last decade,

which I haven't seen. It came out last year and

no one was talking about it, and there's good

reason why. It's not very good. Great idea. It's

an idea where there's parallel earths. They go

into this building and they come out in this

different earth. I love parallel universe stories,

but it's It's an interesting concept. It's just

really nothing new. I think it's grasp and reach

don't really line up very well, but it's worth

a watch if you're bored on Netflix. So there's

worse things out there, I guess. That's a ringing

endorsement. There's worse things out there.

There's always worse things you could watch.

It's better than kicking a puppy. I guess, if

you could say. Oh. They should put it on the

cover art, like right there. Two thumbs up. Movie

role, Dan. Better than Kikna. You would not make

a dog cry, watching this movie. I'm going to

mention two films that I saw because I'm not

going to comment on the other three I saw. I

was trying to do some research for the list this

week, a couple of films that I hadn't seen that

I thought I should see before we made our list,

and then a couple I wanted to just revisit to

have more fresh in my mind so I wasn't just basing

it off of five -year -old memories. I watched

In Time, Inception, and Source Code, but I'm

not going to say anything about those just in

case they may or may not show up on my list.

But the two that I will talk about that I did

see from 2014 still trying to catch up on everything,

I saw Fox Catcher and Whiplash. So finally knocked

those two off of my list. Let's start with Fox

Catcher. I know some people loved it and some

people kind of had mixed reviews on it. I guess

I don't understand the hype on Fox Catcher. My

disappointment there is that I think it had the

potential to be a really cool, intriguing story.

I think the situation that it's based off of

is so bizarre, and the people involved are so

bizarre that I think it could have made a very

interesting story. I just don't think Bennett

Miller was the right guy to helm that one. I

don't know. I question a lot of his choices.

That one kind of fell flat with me, but whiplash.

Dan? That's my number one film of 2014. Nice.

Excellent. It's a really good choice. I've been

searching for something that kind of blew me

away, and my girlfriend is not going to like

that I said that because she did not really enjoy

this film at all. I've not met one person that

did not like that movie. There was just so many

things that I related to, and there's so many

different ways, so many different things that

you can take away from that movie. I was talking

about the director for Fox Catcher. I really

like in Whiplash that they do leave some ambiguity

and they don't necessarily try to tell you who's

good, who's bad, who's right, who's wrong. It

would have been an impossible thing to try to

do anyways because I don't think there's a right

answer to that, but I do like the tact that they

use as far as not trying to force anything on

you as far as this is how you should think or

this is how you shouldn't think. But there's

all kinds of things to like about whiplash, and

that's a film you can talk about for a long,

long time. So definitely highly recommend whiplash.

Like I said, I think that moves into my number

one spot for last year. So those are the two

films that I saw. What did it replace? Nothing.

So you didn't have a number one spot. You just

had like an empty void there? Yeah, I had some

films that I liked. I liked Fury and a couple

other ones, but... Nothing that I would have

really said proudly that it was my number one.

I'm still looking to see Selma in a most violent

year, so I don't know where those will fall,

but right now Whiplash stands at number one.

Matt, what about you? I know you did some research,

so you might not want to talk about some of those

films. How many films did you see this week?

I watched five movies this week. Were they all

for the science fiction genre? All of them for

this. I'll talk about the two that didn't make

my list. Okay, um cuz I don't see movies nearly

to the extent that you or Dan does or I imagine

high row for that matter but like So I knew I

had to catch up and my boss offered me Tuesday

off So I went home Tuesday and watched four movies

just like back -to -back Just to catch up The

ones that I watched that did not make my list

Honorable mentions though because they weren't

terrible. The first was John Carter Which I know

got panned and didn't make any money and Everyone

apparently hated it, but I don't know why like

it's a pretty standard story I mean, it's it's

not you know nothing new. I guess really But

it had some interesting ideas, and if they had

made it a trilogy like they wanted I probably

would have saw two and three in theaters It was

that good to me at least like the other one was

huh? So I kind of liked that movie too. It's

very, I don't know, it's very like old -timey

science fiction, which I kind of liked about

it. Was the property really old? Yeah, it's like

one of the first science fiction books ever.

The movie was shown in theaters at the 100th

anniversary of the story. It was written by the

guy who wrote Tarzan, Edgar Rice Burroughs. Oh,

wow. Yeah. Old school. 1912. I actually haven't

seen that one. My sister told me not to. It was

one of the only movies she's actually walked

out of the theater on. I want to know what I

missed that made this movie so unlikeable. I

think it was just maybe was so hyped up because

it was one of those was supposed to be like the

big the first big movie of whatever year that

came out and it just ended up not being that.

I was gonna say they dropped a lot of money on

it and maybe that put some stuff into it. I don't

know. Or it could be Taylor Kitsch's kiss of

death that he's got going for him, dude. Wasn't

he in Battleship as well? Yeah that same year

he had John Carter in Battleship. And then that

movie with Oliver Stone that he did, I forget

the name of the movie. At least Battleship gave

you... Is that the one with the two guys doing

it with one girl or whatever? Yeah, with Aron

Terrell and Johnson. He was like with the dreadlocks,

cause you know. Yeah. And Blake Lively. And that

was the best movie of that year, so there you

go. What was the other one, man? The other one

I watched was I, Frankenstein. I'm not quite

sure what they, like... Don't know it wasn't

a terrible movie. I just don't know why they

didn't call it demons versus gargoyles In that

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that was one of the

classic movies from last year that you had frankens

I Frankenstein which had nothing to do with Frankenstein

you had Godzilla that had nothing to do with

Godzilla There's like two or three films that

I'm just like the first Hercules movie and had

nothing to do with Hercules but I will say that

I, Frankenstein, I think I found that better

than I should have because I saw that right after

the Killing Lutz Hercules. Oh, that was so bad.

Oh, why would you do that to yourself? Hey, I

just, it was back, you know, it was a year ago.

It was back in February or whatever last year

when there was nothing else to see and I'm like,

I'll see these just so I can say I saw them,

gave them a shot. The words Killing Lutz are

still attached to it. I've learned my lesson.

I won't do it again. When he comes out with whatever,

some clash of the... Titans or something that

when they redo that again, I'll stay away from

it. He's taking your order at the local You know

McDonald's right and then and then he was somehow

in expendables. I didn't understand that no one

did I did I did too, but So Matt what were your

thoughts on high Frankenstein I don't know, man.

It wasn't terrible, but it wasn't amazing. And

it had very little to do with Frankenstein. I

also don't know what the whole deal is with him

using, like, sticks as a weapon. Because they

kind of made it into a thing, but didn't at the

same time. They're like, hey, you could have

any one weapon. And then he's like, I'm going

to take these sticks. He's like, those sticks

are a bad weapon. Well, I'm Frankenstein and

then he walks away and then there's like a brief

montage of him hitting Rocks with the sticks

and then he used the sticks for one fight and

then drops them and then they don't address them

ever again That's good writing right there folks

Wow, yeah, and the sad thing is you're like exactly

right when it comes to what they said it and

presented it to so All right, Hiro, what did

you see this last week? So so far this week I've

watched two films So the first one is life itself

the documentary about Roger Ebert Nice catch

enough with this one. A lot of people love this

last year It's very It shows a lot of his warts

and it does a really great job of kind of Letting

you into various aspects of Roger Ebert's life

that we didn't get to see I think that this got

a lot of love from critics and podcasters and

just people who love movies for the sake of the

fact that We love to love movies, basically,

in the same manner that I believe that Roger

Ebert did. So, while it's very good, I wouldn't

go so far as to call it great. I don't think

it's the best documentary I've ever seen, but

it is very good. It's tough to watch. They show

you the real... I'm not going to say gruesome,

but they're cleaning out his... Like lower jaw

and stuff and it's real tough to watch man. If

you don't if you don't have a If you've got a

weak stomach, it's not a good time Yeah, that

didn't really hold much back to regarding like

really showed what? You know Roger Ebert was

or what he became which is kind of tragic when

you think about it But right seeing him like

lose his his voice I think that the best part

of that documentary to me was like seeing the

behind the scenes with From at the movies and

him and Cisco and like they're back and forth

and yeah, I really enjoyed like that to me was

the heart of that movie and the best part of

it. I did, I really like that stuff. I'm a sucker

for the family thing too, so seeing him with

his step family and stuff like that, that was

really nice. But it was a really nice touch,

I enjoyed it. The other movie I watched is Cocaine

Cowboys. Are you guys familiar with this documentary?

Yeah. I've heard of it, but I haven't seen anything

on it. It's a really good documentary that covers

the drug trade in Miami in late 70s, early 80s.

It's kind of like, if you've seen Scarface, it's

kind of a behind the scenes documentary of all

the real life stories that went behind on this.

And it's really well shot, it's kind of layered

over the Miami Vice kind of theme music and that

kind of thing. It's done by Billy Corbin, a documentarian

that I really enjoy. He did like the You 30 for

30 stuff on ESPN. He's done a couple of documentaries

I really enjoy. So I'm re -watching this one,

and I'm a big fan of this. Obviously, I'm from

Miami, so this kind of hits close to home for

me. You see all the old streets and all the old

things that I grew up with flashing across the

screen, so I'm a huge fan of this documentary.

Nice. That sounds interesting. Yeah, it's really

good. You should check it out. All right. So

I think that's it for as far as what things we've

seen. Now, we're going to change it up a little

bit from normal. We're not going to spend quite

as much time talking about the box office and

the news and that much. So we have more time

for our list, but we will kind of hit on a few

things. So just looking at the box office from

this past weekend, a week ago, heading into this

weekend here. Last weekend, Focus took number

one at 18 million. Kingsman stayed at the number

two spot with 11. SpongeBob stayed at number

three with 10. Fifty Shades of Grey went from

the first spot down to the fourth spot, down

to ten million, and the Lazarus Effect, the new

one, took the fifth spot. I'm just going to leave

these out so I can stop seeing trailers for it,

because Jesus Christ. The Lazarus Effect? Yeah.

Every time I watch something on demand, that

trailer came up. So, interesting that Focus was

able, you know, Dan and we were talking about

it last week, if Focus would be able to unseed

Fifty Shades of Grey, or maybe Kingsman might,

because we expected a drop, hopefully, for Fifty

Shades of Grey, and Focus did take that spot.

I would like to mention, though, Kingsman has

now made its budget, so those involved in the

Fantasy Film League, if you had somebody on the

Kingsman, the Secret Service, you no longer have

to worry about losing points. They have surpassed

their budget. and uh... fifty shades of gray

uh... is in the top spot for the year now with

a hundred forty seven mil uh... note of note

though american sniper brought in seven million

more and that is now one million away from the

number two spot for twenty fourteen it's going

to be one million away from guardians of the

galaxy that totally to get that and it's four

million away from hunger games how i got it as

we were talking Yeah, so I mean, it has a good

shot of ending up the highest grossing film of

last year, beating both Guardians of the Galaxy

and The Hunger Games. That's absolutely amazing.

Yeah, so I mean, that's crazy. I mean, it brought

$7 million in this week, so even if it drops

down to like $4 or $5 million next week, it's

going to do that. It's funny, I was at Barnes

& Noble today and they had just piles of the

book, like on end caps behind the cash registers

everywhere. Wow. I'm trying to key in on that.

So looking at next week though, starting tomorrow

when this episode airs, we'll have Chappie out

there, which actually has probably been released

in a lot of theaters as we speak. We also have

Unfinished Business and a couple other things.

Dan, I ask you first, is Chappie number one at

the box office this next weekend? Well, considering

that, I have Hugh Jackman on my film league team.

I hope it makes like $200 million this weekend,

if possible. My assumption is probably going

to be number one, but just kind of by default,

really. I don't think it's going to do tremendously

well. The buzz hasn't been all that great, unfortunately.

you know, the Gestic 9 didn't do great. It did

decent at the box office, but it wasn't like

a strong opening and Elysium was only kind of

average too, so I doubt it's going to bring in

a huge amount. I don't think it's really going

to challenge like 50 shades at all for the year.

Right. I can definitely see Chappie opening up

at number one this next weekend and Kingsman

still staying at that two spot and Focus dropping

down to like three or four. I could definitely

see that happening. We'll have to see. I know

Chaffee's not getting a lot of buzz, but I still

think the trailer's been seen enough where people

are going to go see it. It should come in number

one this next weekend. That Vince Vaughn movie

might come in number two. Yeah, that's true.

Unfinished Business. You can never predict it

really with comedies which ones are going to

resonate and which ones aren't, but when they

do, they make some money for sure. It's helpful

if it has Kevin Hart or Melissa McCarthy in it.

I don't know why. That's for sure. We've got

about five or six things to touch on with news.

Some of them might spend a little bit more time

on than others. Just a quick note, since we had

been talking about it in our most anticipated

films of 2015, at least I brought it up, and

we kept calling it the Steven Spielberg Tom Hanks

film. We can stop calling it that. It actually

has a title now, so the Cold War thriller is

now called Bridge of Spies. So that is the title

to the... God, that sounds cheesy. Yeah, Bridge

of Spies. And they actually released a little

bit more about it as well, as far as what the

actual premise is going to be. And it's scripted

by Joel and Ethan Cohen, and it's going to tell

the true story of James Donovan, a lawyer who

was hired by the CIA to secretly negotiate the

release of an American pilot shot down in Soviet

airspace in 1960. It sounds like the title sounds

like a James Bond movie. It does. And so we have

Steven Spielberg. As far as director stars, we

have Tom Hanks, Amy Ryan, and then John Williams

will be doing the score. Not that that's a surprise.

It's on every movie except for one for Spielberg.

Yeah, it says it's going to be his 27th score

for Steven Spielberg. That's ridiculous. So yeah,

that one has a title. Nothing to really talk

about there, but I just wanted to at least bring

the title up. Some people are excited some people

aren't but we got the Beauty and the Beast live

-action film that's happening now has some Casting

things and since we talk about casting a little

bit with our fantasy film league I don't think

anybody has either these people but Luke Evans

and Dan Stevens Dan Stevens you'll probably remember

if you saw the guest from last year I did Yeah,

so Dan Stevens was that was the I guess the quote

-unquote bad guy in that film the loveliest of

bad guys And Luke Evans, obviously most people

know who that is. I do think that they got this

backwards though, because Luke Evans has been

cast to play Gaston, and Dan Stevens has been

cast to play the Beast. Wow. And I would have

thought they would have done vice versa, but

maybe that's... Because I think Dan Stevens would

have been a better Gaston, and Luke Evans is

kind of... Like he could pull off a beast mode.

You're basically saying that Luke Evans is nowhere

near as pretty as Dan Stevens. I mean, I didn't

want to say that, but I thought you might say

that. I wear like a badge of honor, my friend.

So, just given that, and now the name is escaping

me as far as who's playing the beauty there.

And Watson. Yes. So based on those three people,

more interested in Beating the Beast, less interested

in Beating the Beast, Nothing's changed there

for you, Dan. Nothing's changed, honestly. Yeah,

nothing's really changed. What about you, Hiro?

Are you more interested now than the beauty kids

in there? Sure, why not? I mean, even just going

off the trailers for Cinderella, that kind of

looks interesting to me a little bit. I don't

know why. Maybe it's because I have kids or something.

I don't know. But we'll see. Why not? Matt, any

interest in Beauty and the Beast? A little interest,

but I don't think this affects it. I want to

see some live -action pictures of Gaston. I see

what they do with those two and how they're going

to make that work. Like I said, I think they

switched them around. But the other casting things

real quick, Independence Day 2, getting some

names attached to it, Jeff Goldblum, Jesse Usher

playing the main character, and Liam Hemsworth.

Those three names make you more or less interested

in Independence Day 2, Dan? Honestly, despite

the fact Wilderbuzz movies have not been great

lately, the fact that Will Smith is in it...

is not and it does make me a little less interested

but glad to see Goldblum. So I guess it's kind

of a push for me. Okay. What about you, Hiro?

Oh, for me, I'm all in. As long as Goldblum is

in, I'm in. Will Smith, it doesn't matter. Especially

with his track record lately, his presence isn't

really needed. But Jeff Goldblum to me is awesome

and I want to see much more of that guy. Yeah,

I'm all aboard with Jeff Goldblum. I like to

see him. I was disappointed when I saw him in

Mordecai earlier this year because he really

didn't do anything and I was kind of like sat

up on my seat as soon as I saw him on screen.

I'm like, oh, Jeff Goldblum's in this. And then

nothing happened with him. So that was disappointing.

But yeah, I'm kind of a push with you, Dan. I'm

not necessarily needing Will Smith to be in this.

So that doesn't bother me. Jeff Goldblum being

in is cool. I don't know what exactly Liam Hemsworth

is supposed to be doing in this film. I didn't

read up on it. uh... i'll wait to see some sometimes

i don't want to know too much about it uh...

mat any interest in independence day two i'll

take a half from one and half of the other i

want will smith but i'm glad that jeff goldblum

a couple other things that i i i found interesting

i wanted to bring up uh... couple news articles

coming out lately about the academy award uh...

the academy and the idea that next year they're

considering going back to the five nominee picture

for the best picture they they've had the ability

to go up to ten the last what since two thousand

nine or ten nine they went out they moved to

two thousand nine after dark night didn't get

nominated into that right so then they they expanded

it even though the last couple years they've

only done what eight nine and nine and they haven't

used all ten for a little while now they're saying

that they might be considering going back down

to five dan is that a good idea a bad idea that's

a bad idea i feel like the additional ones that

ended up getting nominated are the ones that

I liked the most. Like this year, if they went

to five, I doubt Whiplash would have been nominated.

I doubt, you know, it probably would have been

like Imitation Game and Theory of Everything,

kind of like the general ones. So I like the

fact that they've expanded it because it has

gotten attention to like smaller films like Whiplash

or like Winter's Bone or Beast of the Southern

Wild, like these other movies that maybe... General

Public would have not known anything about, but

are now getting attention. I know the idea was

to try to bring in the big blockbusters, which

really hasn't happened, but I kind of like it.

I think it's the one good thing the Academy has

been able to do, even if it's just by default.

Yeah, it seemed like the idea originally was

that a lot of people complained about the best

pictures, because if you weren't a cinephile

or you weren't doing a movie podcast, usually

the best pictures all of a sudden were a bunch

of films you'd never heard of. Or just came out

in the set and the other so they were like, oh,

let's expand it Let's get stuff, you know make

it potential so you could have things like Dark

Knight Rises or Not Dark Knight Rises but Dark

Knight, you know different big blockbusters Like

you said can come in there and then you have

a year like this year where American Sniper made

more than all the other films combined I mean,

I know it made a ton of money, but you had a

bunch, you know, obviously independent smaller

films that made him kinda re -question it. I

don't necessarily think that's a bad thing. What

about you, Hiro? Should they leave it at ten

or should they go down to five? I would say leave

it at ten or keep going, man. Who cares? They

keep picking the wrong winners anyways. Do it

like March Madness, like the tournament, the

NCAA tournament. Just let everybody in and have

them battle it out because they keep picking

the wrong movies anyways, man. Before Midnight

should have won a couple years ago. Freakin'

Boyhood should have won this year. It's just

a mess. So, yeah, just keep adding more. Why

not? I think 10 is fine. I don't understand why.

I understand that there's a process and you have

to get X percentage of the ballots in order to

get it. That's why we only get 8 sometimes and

that's why we only get 9 sometimes. I have no

problem with it being up to ten, so I don't necessarily

think going down to five is going to make it

that much more prestigious or anything like that.

Everybody has their set opinion about the Academy.

It's not going to change if they have five or

ten nominees. I don't think they need to worry

about diluting the pool, so to speak, if that's

one of their arguments. Matt, I know you're not

a huge award show type person, but any opinions

on that one? I was against it when they increased

it from five. Now I don't want it to go back.

Like, I don't see what it's gonna do. I imagine,

honestly, if this is a cynical way to look at

it, having more movies in the best picture category

is gonna get people to see more movies. It's

gonna be better for the economy, better for moviegoers

in general. It's only gonna benefit. They're

only gonna pick one winner. As long as they don't

go, hey, we're doing 15 and there's gonna be

two winners, I don't see why it's bad. Right.

I think it's a good awareness piece too for people

that don't watch aren't as in tune with the movie

scene throughout the year and then they see the

best picture nominees and all of a sudden they

bring some attention to those films. They're

usually brought back to theaters. Like you said,

I think it's good because it exposes more people

to more films. Another interesting thing here,

I don't know if you guys are following the whole

idea that Netflix and what they've been doing

with Beasts of No Nation, the Idris Elba film.

But basically what Netflix has done is they have

a strategy here that they are going to be releasing

the film Via Netflix the same day that it's released

to theater And that has caused all I think the

top four or the top five movie chains in the

country to not bring Beasts of No Nation to their

theaters when this is going to happen. They've

said they won't do it because they're pissed

off basically that Netflix is going to have it

streaming the same day and they don't like that.

So now it's going to be just like smaller theater

chains and more, you know, independent places

that are going to be able to show this if this

files through, which causes all kinds of different

complications as far as does it make it eligible

to be in the award? Season is it a word eligible?

Because it has to be in so many theaters and

has to be in I think New York and LA for X number

of weeks to make it eligible What do you think

Dan of the idea of Netflix kind of? getting the

rights to this film and Deciding that they're

gonna do a streaming at the same time that it's

actually released in theater and kind of bucking

or kind of throwing this in the face of the major

theater chains well, I mean, I'm surprised it's

trying to do at the same time because it's You

think about it just logically if you have Netflix

are you gonna? spend eight dollars to watch a

movie you can watch for free. So I kind of get

why the movie theaters are like, no, we're not

going to play this movie because no one's going

to come see it because who's going to pay for

a movie? I mean, it's not like a movie that you

necessarily have to see in a big screen. It's

not like a big blockbuster. So I actually don't

blame the movie theaters for doing what they're

doing. And do you think this is going to be a

trend of something that's going to start happening

or are we going to see the landscape of movies

changing where There's quite a few movies that

come straight to streaming or straight to this

that you don't have to necessarily go to the

theater watch. I think it's an inevitability,

man. Yeah, I think it's only going to increase.

I mean, even with movies on demand, especially

with independent films and movies like this,

I think it's going to be more of the norm. And

you probably will get to a point where the only

movies you see in theaters are those big blockbusters.

We're kind of already there as is. I mean, American

Sniper did kind of buck that trend a little bit,

but I think that's more of an anomaly than anything.

So I think, yeah, I think like. Was mentioned

that it's only going to continue and you're going

to just get more stuff that's streaming before

it's in theaters and You know, I don't think

it's necessarily a terrible thing for some of

these things Obviously as someone who goes to

the theater so much if I can save a few dollars

and watch something from the comfort of my free

computer at home You know, I'm not going to be

opposed to that. But I do my only thought is

that I hope it doesn't necessarily Take away

anything from these films. Yeah, my big worry

the independent movie theaters, the ones that

show the smaller movies, the fact that a lot

of what they show tend to be available on demand

now, so does that hurt them? Ones that aren't

the big chains that are showing the more indie

films, the more art house films, they're probably

going to be the ones that are hurt most by it,

so that's kind of a bummer. What do you think,

Matt? I got weird feelings on something like

this. I have a unique perspective because Last

year, they released the first episode of the

new season of Doctor Who in theaters at the same

time it was on. Actually, I think it was two

or three weeks after it hit television. So it

was an even more free way to see it than Netflix

or whatever. And I was really excited about that

concept of being able to see something that I

wouldn't normally be able to see on the big screen

there. But at the same time, it didn't resonate

or do extremely well for me. So I don't know.

I guess where I'm torn the most, and the last

thing I'll say on it, because obviously even

if you go right now to your On Demand segment,

your section on your TV, you're going to see

a whole bunch of 2015 films that you can watch.

Maps to the Stars, I could name about five or

six that I was just looking at yesterday. So

it's not like it's a brand new thing as far as

that goes. But for me, Even though I don't want

to spend a gazillion dollars at the theater,

I enjoy going to the theater. So part of me wants

to be able to go to a theater and see something

like Beasts of No Nation. I like Idris Elba.

I like the plot of that thing. It was on my most

anticipated list. So that's something that I

want to be able to go to the theater and see.

So I'm kind of torn because I want to be able

to go see it at the theater, but I'm not going

to complain about not having to spend money on

it too. So I don't know. I'm kind of mixed on

that one. But another thing about going to a

theater, which I'm interested to see if any of

you guys are even considering this. We had a

couple different articles this week about AMC

and I don't know which the chains are there.

I know Dan, you're near an AMC chain. I know

Matt and I are. I don't know what the theater

chains down by you, Hiro, are. I just came from

an AMC. OK. But AMC has announced a couple different

things that they're doing to celebrate Avengers

Age of Ultron. Number one, they obviously have

the double feature where they're going to be

showing the first Avengers and then they're going

to go right into a showing of the second one.

And then they also have this ultimate marathon

that they've been talking about now. And I've

seen two different stories. I'm not sure 100

% which one's right because the one is saying

that it's 11 films and it starts at 6 p .m. the

day before Avengers is released. And it's literally

25 hours straight of being in the theater. And

you see all 11 films and then right when you've

been at the theater for 24 hours, that's when

you get to start seeing the new Avengers. That

theater's gonna smell awesome. Right. uh... and

then the other one but uh... but i try to go

on and sees a website to check it out to see

if that is it was exactly what was happening

in the one they're advertising there is a six

movie marathon uh... so it's a six film thing

i think it starts early in the morning so it's

not a twenty five hour in the theater thing it's

just a i can remember which exactly six films

they're showing uh... but it's a six film lead

-up and then you get to see the the new avengers

i think it's a forty dollar ticket so you spend

forty dollars and you get to see uh... six films

and i think you get like five dollars a credit

uh... for food or something like that so they're

going to buy you a sip of water so yeah but uh...

i don't know is that when you decide to go when

when theaters do this but i'm sure they're gonna

do something similar with star wars they're going

to do something where you can see the first six

films of that too uh... is this something that

interests you dan is this something you would

stay away from or a Is it fun just trying to

do something? Because I know you do the best

picture kind of marathon type things. Yeah, I've

done the best picture showcase, which has kind

of become a tradition for me. And those are interesting

because it's like, depending on how many movies,

it can be like eight or nine spread over two

different days. The 24 -hour one doesn't really

interest me because I feel like I'd be tired.

I'd fall asleep. I've had times like 9 .30. So

that wouldn't work. I don't know. I don't think

I'd be super interested. I've done other ones,

too. I went to a marathon of all the extended

editions of Lord of the Rings, which was way

too much Middle Earth. It's like 12 hours of

Middle Earth. It was intense. But I don't know.

It's interesting. I probably wouldn't go see

it just because I've watched the Marvel movies

so much already, and I don't really necessarily

need to see them again before I watch The Avengers.

They were out, I don't know, last year. It's

cool. I like it when they do things, but I won't

go to it. I like the idea of it. I don't think

my legs would like the idea of it I don't think

I'd be able to walk at the end of it But they

do say if you make it through the whole marathon

that they do have a medal that they give you

so An Avengers medal so is that enough to make

you want to do this higher hell no There's no

way in hell that I'm gonna do this man. I mean

Aside from the fact that I have kids and I have

responsibilities and that kind of thing. I mean,

I just can't see myself in the theater for that

long. I love the movies. Nobody loves the movies

more than I do, but dude, I just don't see myself.

I mean, I'll get bed sores and start to smell.

It's just ugh. You're like the old grandpa in

Willy Wonka. I'm going to have to sit through

Iron Man 3 and 2 and Thor 2 and oh no, no thank

you sir. What about you Matt? I'm interested

in the metal. see if I can get one off of eBay

or something later. So you did it? Honestly,

I don't want to spend 40 bucks, I don't want

to spend 25 hours, but if any one of my friends

is like, dude we're doing this, I'd do it. Just

to try it. Although if there's a group going

I might be able to do it But I seriously don't

think I'd be able to walk after that maybe the

six films But I don't know if I could do 25 my

problem with the 25 hours one is I don't want

to get to the film that I'm most excited to see

at the 25 hour Yeah, and then it's a three -hour

movie on top of that, right? I finally get to

the one I want to see and that's the one I'd

fall asleep through I don't have issues falling

asleep during movies so like somewhere You know

around midnight or whatever else. I'll get my

eight hours And and hopefully there would be

a break at one point see to get some real food

I've done movie marathons before just on my own

I usually do it in like I used to do it to try

to catch up And I do it once a year where I go

see five films But you have to have like you

have to strategize that and have a spot where

you can like go get real food In between at some

point I used to have I had one group of friends

that would come and meet me in the parking lot

with a real food the one time Just because I

was afraid if I was on movie theater food the

whole day, I was not going to function well for

about a week. It's like eight dollars for ice.

Right. Can I bring my own bucket and just fill

this with whatever? And then just hitting today,

some news on Harrison Ford that Matt, you brought

up. Apparently Harrison Ford has crashed a plane

he was piloting into a golf course. Is that what

it was? I've got the article open if you want

me to... Yeah, what was the deal with this and

how bad has he hurt? Somewhere around 2 p .m.

he reported that he was having engine issues.

He was in a two -person plane but flying solo

with no copilot or anything. He downed the ship

into the ship. The plane... The morning falcon.

Trust me, there's a lot of fun images if you

can have a morbid curiosity slash hilariousness.

I don't know, whatever. He crashed into a golf

course. He was originally reported as serious.

He's been downgraded to fair to moderate. He

has some non -life -threatening injuries, but

they are still somewhat serious, including lacerations

to the head and possible fractures. His son got

up on Twitter Said dad is okay battered, but

okay. He is every bit the man you would think

he is. He's incredibly strong It just sounds

like hey he hurt himself again He's 72 so he

can't really take too many more hurting of himself

The plane is really jacked up if you do a search

for that It's like a war word replica plane too.

Yeah, it looked like it was a cool plane He is

trying his best not to survive this Star Wars

film He needs to stay away from all kinds of

aircraft or vehicles of any kind. He's an old

-ass man. He needs to just go sit down and relax

for a little while, man. Let someone else do

the piloting and all that stuff. At 72, why is

he allowed to be up there flying a plane by himself?

People over 65 shouldn't even be allowed to drive

a car without extra resting. Much less flying

planes. Get out of here. God, he only crashed

into a golf course. Jesus. He thought he was

in a car and he forgot. It was kind of weird.

Insure spilling everywhere. Right. All right,

the last thing before we get into our list here,

a couple trailers that came out. Ex Machina,

I'm probably saying, is that how you say that?

Ex Machina. Machina, thank you. I always say

it wrong. Mr. Holmes, Starnie McKellum, Self

List. the salvation which is on demand so that's

a trailer but it's available on demand. And the

big game and of course the third trailer for

Avengers. I'm staying away from all the trailers

for Avengers. But Matt or Dan or Hiro, have you

seen any of those and any reaction to any of

those trailers? The only one I saw was the Avengers

trailer. I'm actively trying to avoid trailers

this year. almost going complete. But it's impossible

to avoid the Avengers because it's just on every

website I click on, it pops up and starts screaming

at me. I saw it today in the theater news. I

mean it looks cool. It looks a lot like the old

Avengers so it should be pretty fun. I found

it interesting that Ex Machina and Selfless both

obviously science fiction films and that's the

subject that we're talking about today so that

was kind of ironic I guess. That's probably the

wrong use of that word like everybody else does.

Thanks But Matt did you watch any of them any

any of them catch your interest? One I did not

watch any of them and I'm surprised at how well

I've done not seeing an Avengers trailer I remember

when I didn't see the first one like it just

didn't happen and like all my friends were like

freaking out like how have you not seen it how

have you not seen it now I've seen a couple of

movies in theaters, and I still haven't seen

an Avengers trailer Like, even the last movie

I went to had an Ant -Man trailer, but not Avengers,

which was surprising to me. Yeah, I've just seen

the first little teaser for Avengers. I haven't

seen anything since then. I've stayed away from

it. Dan, did you see any of those trailers? Just

the Avengers 3 trailer in it. Like Harold said,

it looks like an Avengers movie, and I think

I'm going to see it now. So there you go. All

right. Well, links to all those trailers will

be on the episode post, so you can go check them

out and let us know what you think about those

films. We're going to take a quick break and

then we will be back with our countdown of the

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with us. As I said, this is our first of our

series of countdowns here that we're looking

back at the decades so far since we're halfway

through 2010 to 2014 marks the halfway point

and we're starting off with science fiction and

fantasy films kind of a catch -all category and

before we get into our actual list just kind

of to clear the air as far as how we approach

this list kind of any criteria that we used in

creating our list and maybe definition of what

you guys kind of view as sci -fi fantasy because

What I was thinking about when I was going through

this is some of our Genres that will get to in

later weeks and months are very clear -cut like

we get to animated films It's an animated film

or it's not I guess in less like a movie doesn't

count as an animated film to the Academy but

You know though that's clear -cut comic book

films. That's pretty clear -cut. Everybody has

a different definition of science fiction And

I know, you know, technically it's science fiction

or it's not, but it seems like everybody kind

of defines that a bit different. So, kind of,

what's your viewpoint on science fiction, Dan,

and what qualifies and what doesn't? And what

criteria did you use, or if any, did you use

when you were creating your list? Did you eliminate

things, or did you do anything special when you

were going to make your list up? When I made

my list, the thing I kind of considered was,

like, how big of an element was the science fiction

themes or fantasy themes in the movie? Because

there are a lot of movies that, like, Maybe science

fiction is in the background. It's a general

film, but there are elements of sci -fi that

maybe aren't the major focus. Maybe movies quality

-wise I would put on it, but basically because

they're not very much science fiction, I didn't

put it in. I don't know. To me, science fiction

can pretty much be anything. I think that's what's

good about it. It doesn't have to be a Star Wars.

It could be more low -key or more dramatic. It's

just that it has a certain element to it that

is... is in a different type of world than we

live in for whatever reason or has some sort

of maybe technology component or scientific component

that changes or fantasy is a little bit even

more open -ended but to me fantasy is like when

you have things happening that can't be explained

through science I guess so you put them all together

and it's you know I have one on my list that

I I wondered if I think it might get some kickback

because it may be not technically in either category

but considering the list we're making I thought

this would be the only place for it and you'll

know it when I bring it up so it was kind of

hard just determining what should belong and

what shouldn't. Yeah because there's definitely

some films out there like you said that technically

probably do qualify as science fiction but if

you just think about it your first thought isn't

science fiction your first thought is oh that's

just a you know drama or that's just a whatever

there's even there's been like a surge of like

romantic or romantic comedies in the last five

to ten years that technically fit into the science

fiction realm that some people might not consider.

As far as criteria for myself goes, the only

really criteria I used, and I'm not going to

say if this actually affected my list or not

because I decided it before I actually went to

make the ten films that were going to fit in

my list, so it may or may not have impacted that,

but I decided that I wasn't going to allow two

films from any franchise in. Not saying that

it would count, but things that you could think

of would be like, you know, there's been more

than one film for Hunger Games, there's been

more than one film for Harry Potter in the last

five years, there's been more than one film in

the Planet of the Apes franchise, so any of those

types of things. If I was going to include one

in, which I won't say if I did or not, but if

I was going to include one, I did not include

two. So which Twilight one did you choose? Ouch.

I thought you knew me, Dan. So that's my only

criteria is I was not going to allow two spots

to be taken out from the same franchise. Matt,

any criteria that you used? Well, what I did

was I listed every movie that in my mind was

eligible for this list. And when we first decided

to do the list, I had 17 movies. So I couldn't

really have too many extra criteria beyond that.

Otherwise, I wasn't going to have a list. That

is fair. A fair way to do it. uh... what are

you are anything that you use anything you disqualified

anything like that was the exact opposite and

where he's looking for the sci -fi or the fancy

to be the big uh... aspect of the only i was

extremely liberal with my list so quickly i'm

sure it'll raise my brother couple of uh... most

of the pretty pretty uh... standard but i was

very liberal like i would just wanted any kind

of sci -fi or any kind of fantasy element to

at least be kind of in the forefront. Not completely

enveloping the film, but at least active, you

know, part of the plot of the story. This isn't

gonna be like when your friend picked a female

for The Manliest Man, is it? Oh boy, that was

a doozy, yeah. I just listened to that episode

recently. I was trying to catch up on who was

going to butt heads on this episode. That was

bad. Alright, well with all that out of the way

then, we will get right into our countdown and

we are going to start with the guest. So, Hiro,

what is your number 10 film from the last five

years as far as science fiction and fantasy goes?

Okay, so here's one of those kind of liberal

ones and it's from 2013 and it is Her. And so

the sci -fi element is obviously he is in love

with a operating system So there kind of comes

the sci -fi kind of futuristic aspect the world

that they have I love this movie I thought it

came kind of came out right at that crossroads

kind of like America Sniper did this year where

it's kind of on the hinge of 2014 -2013, but

this was the previous year So it didn't make

my final list because I hadn't seen it in time

for last year, but I love this movie. I love

I thought Johansson was great, Joaquin Phoenix

was fantastic. Just a fantastic film. I will

hold off on saying anything. Dan and I had a

real good episode where we covered her last year

that was probably one of the favorite episodes

that we did together as far as I'm concerned.

That was back when we agreed on everything. I

will agree with Dan and I will hold my thoughts

on her for a little bit. I've got a bunch of

comments. Go ahead. Actually, just one. I don't

think you need to worry about whether that's

a liberal choice or not, because in my mind,

the science fiction elements of that movie, as

someone who has not seen it at all, but based

on just the trailers, the science fiction in

that movie are more key to the story than even

Star Wars. You could take out all of the science

fiction out of Star Wars and it would just be

the same story and just as good. Star Wars is

more fantasy to me. It's a bunch of dudes with

swords. That's a good point. Alright, well then

Matt, what is your number 10 pick? My number

10 pick, so similar to you with not wanting to

put multiples of the same franchise, I didn't

want to put any sequels on there, so I tried

to avoid it, but honestly I've been talking this

movie up pretty much since I got on this show,

so for no reason other than that I gave number

10 to Pirates of the Caribbean on Stranger Tides.

Just because I think that movie is ridiculous.

It's everything bad. Oh, no, it's not. It's like

literally the movie from minute one is like we

are aware that we are Pirates of the Caribbean

and we're just going to throw everything we've

ever done in your face over and over again. And

it was I don't know. It was hilarious and fun.

Not not maybe the best cinema you can get, but

like hilarious. Maybe for reasons they didn't

intend. I don't hate the Pirates of the Caribbean

franchise as much as a lot of people do. I don't

know, I'd have to revisit them all to say which

one's good and which one's bad, or which ones

are in the middle, this, that, and the other.

But I do think they're, at least the ones that

I remember were fun films, but I honestly can't

separate which film is which. Yeah, I don't even

know which one that is. Is that the last one,

or is that the third one? Yeah, it's the one

that doesn't have the bloomin' onion in it. Oh,

okay. Don't they all run together like a Mumford

& Sons song? It's just like one long movie. Kinda,

yeah. I think that's another marathon you can

go through. Watching all them back -to -back.

Alright. Dan, what's your number ten? Well, I

talked about one that I wasn't sure if it would

necessarily fit, but since we're also not doing

a top ten horror, and I'm not a huge horror fan,

I figured this would be the only place I'd be

able to talk about this movie. And it does have

science fiction elements. It does have a little

bit of fantasy as well. It's just kind of a...

a little bit of like an amalgamation of like

a lot of different genres and it's just to me

it's like one of the most original movies that

come out in the last few years and that's uh

The Cabin in the Woods. I pretty much love that

movie just because I'm a huge Bradley Wifford

fan from being a fan of Wes Wang and him and

Richard Jenkins, they're in to play with one

another to me is like the best part of that entire

film. I just love that office element that they

have. I just think too, even like I said, I'm

a huge horror fan, but I think it has a lot of

interesting things to say about that genre and

just movies in general. I think it's like a really

cool concept that they have a lot of fun with.

I did not even think about that one. I will say

again, as also someone that does not like the

horror genre, that is a quote unquote horror

film that people can watch that are not into

the horror genre. Because I had a lot of fun

with that and I thought it was very entertaining

and it was a surprise for me when I watched it.

I think that's a great pick. Hiro, have you seen

Cabin in the Woods? I have seen it. I'm going

to have to go back and watch that because I saw

it and I was a little... I thought it was okay.

I wasn't floored by it the way a lot of people

are. I don't hate the movie, but I don't actively

love it either. Do you like horror films? I'm

an 80s kid, so of course I like my camp. I like

my Friday the 13th, Nightmare on El Street, and

Halloween films. I like horror films, but I wouldn't

even consider it really a horror film. It's kind

of like its own job. Yeah, it's almost like a

like a joke on the horror film We're kind of

like just a play on it. It's it's creative for

sure, but I'm not sure if it really fit for me

All right as for me my number 10 pick I'm gonna

go back to 2012 and I'm gonna go with the film

Looper with Bruce Willis and Joseph Gordon -Levitt

I wanted to revisit this one so it could be a

little more fresh, but I do remember enjoying

this one a lot. I think Joseph Gordon -Levitt

was pretty ridiculous in this as far as how well

he seemed to fit that character, which I didn't

expect at the beginning. And I think that was

the best science fiction film probably of 2012.

So I don't know what your guys' opinion on Looper

is, but that would just be my number 10 film.

I will say I will, again, withhold comment for

now. Same for me. All right, so apparently at

least there's some agreement here before we all

start tearing each other apart here later on

so that's our Okay, so that is our number tens

that means that back to you high row for your

number nine pick I went to 2011 with this one

and I have super eight from JJ Abrams This is

an awesome fun love letter to Spielberg basically

and kind of the 80s fun little sci -fi adventure

films of that era. I love this movie. I thought

it was charming. I'm not sure if I like the creature

itself, the design, but that was the only real

knock I had on the film. Other than that, I had

a great time with this movie. Just such a wonderful

film. And you know what, I love the little flash

on the screen. Everybody who hates that, I hope

he does it non -stop in the new Star Wars movie.

Just give him tons of it. I honestly think that

one somewhat went under the radar. Super 8 seemed

like it did not get talked about that much that

year for me. I don't know if it was... I mean,

it has an 82 on Rotten Tomatoes, which is a pretty

good score for the critics. 75 from the audience

there. And I enjoyed that film too. I'm not quite

sure why more people didn't talk about it I'm

not saying it's like the the best film ever,

but I think it is fun. It's a fun kind of Reflection

back on like you said the Spielberg ET type things

It seemed like they tried to do something similar

when they did earth to echo this last year but

I think Super 8 was a superior film. Dan, you

saw Super 8, didn't you? Yeah, I like Super 8.

I think, yeah, the homages to Spielberg are there

for sure. And my issue with it is more so, like,

I felt like it was a great homage, but it didn't,

like, form its own identity in my mind. It just

always felt like a guy trying to do Spielberg.

And I thought, like, J .J. Abrams is really great

at creating mystery. But he's often really bad

at solving it. And I thought, like you mentioned,

Hiro, that the monster itself was just really

forgettable. He built it up to something, and

it just ended up not being much of anything.

And if anything, I think it would have been a

better movie without the science fiction element

if it was just a story about these kids and this

kid trying to get over the fact that his mom

died. I thought that was the strength of the

movie, where a lot of the creature element really

didn't go anyplace. I wanted more from it basically.

It's similar to Jaws where it works best when

the creatures off -screen and also you know one

thing that you mentioned about like he's good

about the homage aspect of it you know this movie

reminds me of a Tarantino film where he's kind

of just basically riffing off of all the kind

of like genre films that he loved growing up

or back in the day like in the 70s and stuff

like that this is kind of JJ Abrams take on that

but for his 80s films and in his own way. So

that's, I kind of see them kind of, basically

it's J .J. Abrams doing his Quentin Tarantino.

Yeah, I can see where you're getting there. I

can definitely get that vibe and like I said,

I did like it. It wasn't consideration for me,

but I do think like it does, it should get talked

about more because I do think it kind of maybe

that came and went and no one's really, it doesn't

really hold the place I expected to, especially

coming from Abrams who is pretty respected as

a director. Right. All right, Matt. What is your

number nine? My number nine? Um, and I I don't

know when I started writing this list I was like,

maybe I should have gotten more definite rules.

I'm a rules guy And I hate breaking rules, especially

if I didn't know they were there. So My number

nine is brave like I get that it's animated and

I don't know if that is allowed or not, but it

wasn't specifically not allowed. And I definitely

haven't seen 10 animated movies in the last five

years, so this is the only list I could get it

on. There you go, that's fine. I loved a lot

of the elements of Brave. I loved the characters,

I loved the world. The story was a little too

basic for me, even for a kids movie. Like you've

seen, even in the last year, more in -depth stories,

less, or more risks, I guess. But other than

that, I thought it was great and I would love

to see more from it, especially a second story

that's not just so cut -and -dried basic. But

yeah, I don't know. I really like the world and

the characters. Alright, definitely fits as far

as that one you can make for that. I didn't include

any animated on my list since I will be on the

animated episode as well. But since you're not,

you're totally within your rights to do so. So

does that mean I can put superhero movies on

my list, since I'm not on the superhero list?

What the hell? Hey, man. Iron Man is totally

sci -fi. Yeah, we're gonna lose control here.

Everybody's gonna be changing their list as we

go. Yeah, I know. Because I've got two that I

eliminated just for that purpose. I'm gonna put

ones from like 20 years ago just to kind of fill

out a little bit. It doesn't have to be in those

five years. Willow is my number nine. Willow.

I love it. Dan, let's see your next one. It's

not Willow. What is it? Willow 2. Back in the

hood no my number nine there are a few films

on here I feel like I'm gonna get a little bit

of crap for and this is probably the my first

one I feel like I'm get a little backlash which

I get I understand and I'm not I'm not afraid

to say that I do like the Harry Potter movies

a great deal especially third and above and this

one I kind of cheated with I'm not gonna lie

and I kind of combined the last two and just

a deathly hollows Harry Potter deathly hollows

my number nine If I had to pick one, I'd probably

go with the part one, actually, because I think

it's, to me, it's my favorite Harry Potter movie.

I just think it's the most unique and definitely

gets in those characters a lot more. I know a

lot of people don't like it because it's rather

slow, but I really like that movie. And I don't

know why it is. I'm not a book. I never really

read the books of Harry Potter, but I really

love the movies. I think they look fantastic.

The cinematography for you and that are actually

really quite good. It's actually underrated for

that element. And their scores, too, are also

fantastic. They're really well made. And Ralph

Fiennes is amazing. as Voldemort. He has so much

fun with that performance. I wanted to get some

fantasy representation, and considering the fact

that this is probably one of the biggest fantasy

franchises of all time, I do feel like it does

fit. I went with Harry Potter and the Deathly

Hollows, part one and two for my number nine.

I'm not going to give you any crap, Dan, because

I considered both of them. I think I had them

both in my top 20, top 25, somewhere in there.

I thought real strong about at least giving Harry

Potter some representation on my list. I ended

up not doing it, but I'm glad that you mentioned

them, because especially if you're looking at

the fantasy genre, I think it's something you've

got to consider. As we get through our list,

I think we'll kind of see that science fiction,

there's a lot more to choose from than fantasy

in the last five years. I don't think it's a

bad pick and I think there's a lot of Harry Potter

fans out there that'll be glad that we mentioned

it. Hiro, are you a fan or not a fan of the Harry

Potter films? They're okay. That's a good answer.

Yeah, that's my answer. They're okay. I mean,

they're very forgettable to me. Like, once I

watch them... I just couldn't completely mind

flush them. You know what I mean? It's like summer

school or something like that. I just completely

wiped them off of my brain. And it's not on purpose.

I'm not actively trying to hate them. It's this

world that I just never really got into. All

this gobbledygook of these crazy names and all

this stuff. I just never really felt at home

in that universe. But the films aren't bad. They're

pretty good. I have fun watching them, but then

as soon as I'm done, it's over. Right. Off to

watch Super 8 again. There you go. See, Kevin,

I always thought you hated those movies. I guess

maybe I'm mistaken. No, no. That's Mike that

doesn't like them. I apologize for confusing

you. That's a big insult. But no, these are my

girlfriend's favorite films. We're actually going

to the wizarding world of Harry Potter here in

a couple months at Universal Studios, so I will

be re -watching. Don't forget to stop by. Yes,

I will we will be and I will be rewatching all

these films in preparation for that. I will Let

you know what my final verdict on those is after

I sit through all of them again And it's kind

of like I have the same problem with Harry Potter

that I didn't do like I mentioned with Pirates

of the Caribbean and some of those films I have

problems separating which films which yeah, which

is I think why the Part one, Desi Lalo's part

one to me is one of the best because it's so

much different than all the other ones where

it really changes everything. So to me, that's

the one that really stands as a unique addition

to the series. Right. Matt, have you a fan or

not a fan of Harry Potter? I've gone on the record

saying I like things to follow their source material

if you're adapting them. So after the third Harry

Potter movie, I stopped watching them. because

they literally chopped the book up into a way

that doesn't even make sense anymore. Like, it

didn't even work as a movie to me. That's why

I don't read, so it works for me. I never have

that issue. There you go. Alright, so I have

no idea where we're at. We're at me, as for number

nine. Alright, so I'm gonna go to 2013. I do

hear mixed opinions on this one. I don't know

if it's as polarizing as I thought it was, but

I'm going with Pacific Rim from 2013. I know

there's people out there that hate that film,

and I know there's people out there that love

this film. To me, and I'm interested in getting

your thoughts, Tyra, because I don't remember

if I listened to an episode where you did Pacific

Rim or not yet. To me, this fits a certain type

of science fiction film. Kind of that ode to,

I don't know what films I want to compare it

to, but where you have that big monster type

thing. I'm not talking about like Godzilla or

anything like that, but it's more of like an

on an epic scale science fiction. It's not necessarily

like your space opera science fiction and it's

not like your time travel. It's just kind of

more of a big battle where you have one... You

know, the immovable force fighting against the,

what is it, the object? The impenetrable object

or whatever it is. Unstoppable force. Yeah, I

just want to keep butchering things and phrases.

That was an ironic saying, right? Make like a

tree and get out of here. You're like the Biff

Tannen right now. That's just what I'm going

to start talking like Biff Tannen. But I enjoyed

Pacific Rim. I liked what it was. I thought it

was a fun thing to watch on the big screen. I

enjoyed most of the performances. I enjoyed the

things they created. It wasn't as hard for me

to follow action as it is sometimes with those

big epic type films where you have no idea what

you're watching, like if anybody saw Jupiter

Sending, I still don't know what happened in

any of those fights. So I could at least follow

it in Pacific Rim, but Hyrule, why do you hate

it? So they hang their hat on, Pacific Rim hung

their hat on the robots. And they just didn't

give me enough robots. So I think it has the

same problems that Godzilla has, where the human

characters are all so bad. They're so poorly

played. Ringo Kukuchi is horrible. Charney Hunnam

is horrible. Even Idris Elba's speech was just

god awful. The comic relief wasn't very good.

I mean, if everything else outside of the robots

is going to be so bad, just give me more robots,

man. Just get rid of all these humans. Just start

doing robots. It just it failed the common sense

factor, you know, like the sword thing like you

got this sword the whole time You can't pull

it out man. Like I Just didn't have fun with

it. It was just not enough fun for me. I wanted

tons more I just wanted less honum less Rinko

Kikuchi and more robots Dan whose side are you

on here? I'm on your side Kevin actually in this

I think I mean Yeah, it's not a logical based

movie, but it's a movie about giant monsters

fine giant robots Yeah, there's those worlds

you can still kind of adhere to it. I mean to

common sense within the world I think it does

I think it does work And I don't think that people

you're they're nearly as bad as you're making

out to be it's a giant cartoon That's what it's

designed to be it's designed to be you know in

the line of those kaiju Series back in the day

those you know, there's definitely the anime

influences are all there and I think it fits

into that world It's meant to be I think it's

very if it's meant to be somewhat campy, right?

It's complete completely know why I like it's

because it completely Recognizes what it is and

doesn't shy away from it. Is it? Yeah, are those

characters one -dimensional very much though,

but I don't think necessarily that's really If

Pacific Rim had come out in the 80s, people would

not have a problem with it. To me, it's very

successful being front. The Roblox is literally

80 % of the movie. There's really not much beyond

that. I think the spectacle is certainly there.

Even in 3D, I'm not a huge 3D fan. I thought

it was a fact of using that as well. I feel like

if you're not into the type of worlds that Pacific

Rim is taking out of, you're probably going to

hate it. All about them, man. I'm all about those

worlds. I wanted more of it. I'd love to do a

count and see how long the robots fighting each

other or the robots fighting the monsters were

on the... There's more robots than there was

Godzilla. I don't think the amount of time really

matters when it comes to it because if you think

about Jurassic Park, for example, the first Jurassic

Park, the amount of time the dinosaurs are on

screen are about 15 to 20 minutes. The Lost World

is about 45 and I think that is where that movie

tends to fall apart. This character is engaging.

Yeah, I would agree. I think Jurassic Park is

a much better movie, and I think that's why,

because the characters are a lot more interesting.

But I think what works is the time that they

do spend there is really effective and really

well done. And I think if you just do even increase

it more, it would be a little tedious and be

kind of mind -numbing, which I think is the issue

with the Transformers films, where there's just

too much of it. And I don't know. To me, I think...

why I like Pacific Rim over something like Transformers,

which I think you can make comparisons there,

is that I feel there's more of a wink to the

audience. When you pull out the sword and say,

this is for my family, I think this movie knows

what it's trying to be. I think it's very, like,

it's a grown -up Power Rangers movie in, like,

the best ways possible, but better done. So,

yeah, I mean, I get it's not for everyone, but

I don't know, I enjoy it and I think it's really

a fun time, so. Matt, what side of the debate

do you fall on? The side that doesn't say anything

for a bit. Alright. I like that side. That means

Hiro's the lone survivor on that one. What's

the Airheads band? The Lone Rangers or whatever?

That's a reference that even I can't get. Alright,

so Iroh, what is a film that is more deserving

than Pacific Rim? What's your number 8? My number

8 is... You should have put Super 8 at number

8. Yeah, I know. I was just looking at my list.

I should have done that. Damn it, I'm so un -clever.

Actually, I have the same rule that you did where

I didn't want to put two of the same series on

my list. So I chose the... Probably... It's so

tough to choose between these two. I have Dawn

of the Planet of the Apes from 2014. I thought

that movie was so well done. Both of those movies

are much better than they had any business being,

or that I had expected, really. I was like, dang

it, man. Planet of the Apes, especially after

the Marky Mark joint, it was just so bad. I had

no expectations going into this. It was so much

fun. Such a good movie. Big fan of this movie.

Both of them, really. the best visual effects

from last year. What won that? Was it Interstellar?

I don't remember, but it wasn't Don of the Planet.

It was Interstellar won for best visual effects.

Nobody should be surprised at this that I'm going

to have to save my thoughts for a little bit

later. If you've watched any of our shows, you

know what my thoughts are on the Planet of the

Apes films. So I will save my thoughts, but I

think that's a great choice to have that on the

list. I agree. It paid me great. I really wanted

to find a spot for one of those films, but I

wasn't able to. But yeah, those are really top

-notch science fiction films, both of them. I

didn't get Don. I didn't see Don, rather. And

honestly, out of my 17 films, I forgot Rise.

Oh no. That's a good one. Rise was a solid movie.

Probably, I don't know, I was going to say less

science fiction -y, but no, it's probably more

science fiction -y than the second one, honestly,

if I had to guess. That doesn't make it a better

movie, it just makes it more science -y. I'm

sure a great choice. I haven't heard a bad thing

about it and my the one movie guy at work Almost

every day at least three times a week almost

every day says have you seen dawn yet? So what's

it? What are you waiting on? Sitting down with

someone to watch it All right, name the time

and place. I'll put it on. I'll watch that anytime

anybody wants to watch it. I Love those films

All right, Matt, what's your number eight? My

number eight, I believe, suggested by you on

Twitter was Europa Report. I was asking for suggestions

from some films that I hadn't seen, and a couple

people mentioned that. I did not get a chance

to see it, so what was your take on it? So you

listed a handful of films, and I went and searched

them all up, and Europa Report sounded like the

most interesting. It's all like found footage,

half documentary, half sci -fi horror, I guess.

Thriller. Thriller is probably the word. Which

is not a thing I usually go for, and I think

I skipped over that word when I started reading

it, and I got like 10 minutes into it, I paused

it, and I went and re -read it, and I was like,

oh, it does say thriller. Uh -oh. That said,

I was pleasantly surprised. It's not very scary.

It does get intense in a few moments, but not

so much, though, that I ever had to turn it off.

I don't know like they made it's about a bunch

of people on one starship going for like a like

a three -year mission or whatever and They did

a really good job of developing very unique characters

They let out information and in bits and pieces

it jumps around worse than any Tarantino film

I've ever seen But that's just to tell its story

in the way it wants to and it was honestly a

lot of fun And I don't regret watching it at

all Has anybody else seen this one? Yeah, I've

seen it I I like it. Yeah, like I like the At

there's been like this huge influx of like indie

science fiction films like now that you can do

a lot more special effects without a big budget

So I think it really felt goes in that realm

It's like that and like like the last mission

to Mars is around the same time and which is

definitely more horror But I enjoy it. I didn't

really consider for this, but it's a it's a good

time. It's worth a watch All right, then what

is your number eight then my number eight? My

number eight honestly when I first saw this movie

I was a little disappointed with it and I think

maybe because I had so much hope going into it

because I like loved the director's last film

and Was such a long time until this one came

out. So there's a lot going into it And it is

one of those movies you have to I think the more

I've watched it, the more I've enjoyed it. And

it's a movie, I think you mentioned this, Kevin,

I think it's a movie you're gonna hate. I don't

know if you saw it or not, but it's out of Upstream

Color by Shane Carruth, who, known to fame, was

first coming up with Primer, which was notably

a really well done science fiction film. And

Upstream Color, it's, again, one of those science

fiction where it's rather light, per se, but

it's really... It's kind of a strange concept

in a lot of ways, but it's very atmospheric.

It does feel almost a little bit like Terrence

Malick, but the imagery is great. Some of the

acting, not fantastic, to be honest. Shane Carruth

is a much better director than he is actor, so

he should probably not act in his movies, but

I don't know. It's one that kind of just stuck

with me, and I just think there's a lot of...

Originally out originality to it and a lot of

interesting concepts that they explore and there's

so much to it that you can't really Can't really

take it all in in one sitting I'm not gonna hit

on that one because it's one that I haven't had

a chance to see yet, but I've been told I would

hate it I saw that movie. I really liked it I

I'm kind of like kicking myself that I totally

forgot about that one because I thought it was

you know I watched it and it's a lot of work

to watch that movie. You have to really pay attention.

You have to put the phone away. You have to,

you know, muff the kids out of the house. You

know, punt the kids because you've got to like

sit and focus and slow and think the whole entire

time. And even then I still had to kind of do

a little research afterwards like, oh, okay,

I got that. And then rewatch it again and I was

like, wow, this is a really good film. And I

think that Shane Cruz really gets off on that

as evident in primer. He's obviously a really

smart guy. I think he's a graduate from MIT or

something like that. I just know he has a pretty

incredible degree or what have you. But I don't

think it's as good as primer, but I do think

it's as... as ambitious as primer, I would say.

I definitely agree with you about his acting

too, man. You're a good man as a director, brother.

Stay back there. Yeah, and it's on Netflix, so

if you do want to watch it, you can check it

out. Alright, I'll have to watch it eventually

just so I can either prove you wrong or prove

you right one of the ways. uh... my number eight

i'm gonna go just uh... to recent times uh...

two thousand fourteen film uh... one of my favorite

science fiction films of of two thousand fourteen

and that would be snowpiercer for my number eight

uh... did not expect anything from this film

didn't really know hardly anything about this

film just uh... randomly got it on red box brought

it home watched it and uh... thoroughly enjoyed

it uh... it's got uh... it's got a lot of the

elements that you would look for in a science

fiction film. It also has some overarching concepts

that can make you think a little bit. I like

the whole premise of it. I was just entertained

throughout the whole thing, so Snowpiercer would

be my number eight. Nice. That's a lot of fun.

I would say I might be considering that for a

different list, so that's why I did not include

it. Ah, that makes sense, and I know which one

you're talking about, so I didn't even think

about that. I guess I have another slot in that

list for something else now. Alright, that brings

it back to you, Hiro. What are you starting off

here with this round seven? I went back to 2011

and I have Men in Black 3. I thought that this

was the best of the series and I really was,

especially with the second one, I really had

low expectations for this. I was almost like

groaning when I heard that they were even going

to make this. But I thought this movie was really

heartwarming, especially the culmination of the

relationship between Tommy Lee Jones and Will

Smith really comes to fruition here. And I love

kind of what they did with it. I had a lot of

fun with this movie. I honestly haven't seen

it for some reason, and I enjoyed all the other

Men in Black films, and I liked all the casting

for this one. I thought Brolin was a genius choice,

and I just somehow missed it that year and have

forgotten about it since then that I needed to

catch up with it, so I can't really comment much.

Dan, have you seen Men in Black 3? Yeah, and

it was a lot better than I expected. I remember,

like, Josh Brolin in that is, like, so much fun

playing, like, giving his, like, impersonation

of Tommy Lee Jones. It's spot on. Yeah, that

was really good. And actually, the ending to

that was really unexpectedly good, so I do agree.

I think I like the first one more, but Lightyear

is better than number two. Alright, Matt, that

brings it to you. What's your number seven? My

number seven is Pacific Rim. Giant robots, more

monsters than Godzilla. It was fun. Hiro, you're

the lone wolf on that. I'm sorry. Hey, it happens

sometimes, you know That's why movies are subjective

That's right, and that's not gonna be the first

disagreement. We have here Dan what's your number

seven my number seven and Interesting. I think

this is another movie. You can probably Comment

on it doesn't have much story It's maybe more

spectacle than like narrative and probably its

biggest knock and that is Alfonso Cuarón's gravity

I thought, if I look at my best theater experiences,

this was one of them. Seeing this in IMAX, to

me, probably the best use of 3D ever. It actually

enhanced the movies in a lot of ways and the

technology they went into making this movie.

I do think the narrative, it's a basic survival

story, but I think there is a little bit more

to it than just that. I think Sandra Bullock

is... gives one of her better performances. There

are some issues there, but I do enjoy it a great

deal. I think it's one of those movies we talked

about, like going to the theater, and it's one

of those movies that makes going to the theater

worth it. I'm just going to sit back and let

Hiro react. I think this movie kind of highlights

everything that's wrong about Hollywood, where

you can just put flash. all over the screen,

which the visuals are incredible, probably some

of the best I've ever seen, where you can just

flash the shiny light and shiny object in front

of the audience, and you can just totally forget

that there is a repetitive and really almost

non -existent plot going on, and it's just...

What? Go ahead. Michael Phillips from the Chicago

Tribune. He was on film spotting talked about

this about the plot and he said it better than

I could and he said that It's like a perils of

Pauline just over and over and over and over

and that's exactly what it what it was I mean,

it's just the one event after another it's just

It's kind of like watching her play Pitfall but

in space. It was so devoid of any kind of story

and I completely lost any connection to that

movie. For me, it was a lot of flash and I loved

that flash. It was great as far as visuals go

but after that it's just... a spiral down the

toilet for me, so I just really had a bad experience

with this. I watched it in 3D, so I did get the

full effect of it, but when it was over, I just,

you know, my entire role, like, looked at each

other and like, what the fuck was this? What

just happened here? Was that it? You know, it

was kind of just such a big letdown, because

I had such high hopes for this. I don't agree

at all that it's just flash. That's in any way,

shape, or form. I think that that's a really

unfair... statement to it because I think it

does yeah does it have a gigantic narrative no

it doesn't but I don't know this need people

have that a movie has to have a strong narrative

I don't think that's movies don't have to do

that like you read a poem you don't say well

no that doesn't have a story to it so it's not

good not all movies need to have a narrative

that's not the point to it I think it there are

themes there are they Are they the strength of

the movie? No. But I think there is certain elements

there that go beyond just the flash. They say

it's just like the Baron of Hollywood. I don't

think that's true because I think it has meaning

to it beyond just the spectacle. And I think

there is a journey there with that character.

So I don't know. I don't think that's necessarily

a true reflection on what it represents regarding

it not having any type of meaning beyond just

the spectacle. I just didn't see that, man. She

barely introduces the thing about the daughter,

and it's barely touched on, so you really don't

get into the depths of that character. I mean,

you get some imagery of rebirth and things like

that, but it just flashes in the pan in this

giant soup of shininess, and I just couldn't

connect with it at all. Don't well, I think I

don't know. I don't think you need to give give

every little detail to that story I think the

this understanding of where she's coming from

and where she's going I think the open -endedness

to that is actually a benefit because it allows

from some interpretation it allows for some you

know reflection in that because Her story could

be a lot of other people's stories where you

don't get every minute detail It's just the idea

of losing someone and trying to get over that

in the difficulty that goes with it Go ahead

The entire movie is that, is an allegorical representation

of getting over grief. Those repetitive natures,

well that's very much that of grief, is that

repetitive nature of trying to get through it.

So yeah, the repetitive nature is there, but

I think that is regarding just what it's going

into. So yeah, I don't think you necessarily

get a huge backstory, but I don't... Nestle think

you need that because I don't want nothing purpose

of it I'm not saying you need the detail for

the to flesh it out or anything like that what

I'm saying is The way I believe like you're saying

that that the repetitive Conflict or the repetitive,

you know perils is the allegory. I just didn't

see that at all I just saw it as as another way

of showing this great special effects because

it because You don't need the detail, but you

need Sandra Bullock to kind of exude that pain

and I just didn't see it I mean she's just kind

of shies away from From Clooney's kind of prodding

and then that's about it. You don't really get

any any substance out of her So I guess you know

we just have to agree to disagree on that one

I find myself somewhere in the middle I can kind

of see a little of both sides. I wasn't as on

board with it as as I wasn't as gung -ho about

it, but I Also do you think there's a lot of

things to appreciate from a science fiction standpoint?

And obviously, you know, it is the visual spectacle.

I just wanted to sit back and enjoy you guys

going back and forth and then quietly under my

breath say that it's my number seven too and

just let the podcast continue. So, Hiro, what's

your number six? My number six is, maybe this

one will get a reaction, is from 2013 it's Elysium.

uh... i think that but but but but but but but

but but but but but but but but but but but but

but but but but but but but but but but but but

but but but but but but but but but but but but

but but but but but but but but watch this movie

from a different perspective where you look at

the action first and the adventure kind of on

the forefront. Kind of like Pacific Man? Yeah,

with actually delivering on that action and that

fun more often than not. I like Elysium too,

I'm not even, I'm just trying to find it. Yeah,

it was, I think that, you know a lot of people

knocked Jodie Fisher. I thought that was a nice

touch because who's to say where our dialects

are going to be in 150 years or wherever it is.

It's kind of like Daniel Day Lewis going back

in time and saying where was our accents with

Bill the Butcher back in the day. I thought it

was just a nice touch. I had a good time with

this movie. It was just a fun adventure in the

movie theater and I kind of didn't take much.

I mean, I know that the allegory is there, but

I didn't really just let that overtake it. I'm

glad you put it on the list. It wasn't quite

high enough to make my list, but I'm glad it's

mentioned because I think it gets some undeserved

hate from a lot of people, and people just want

to rip it apart as a terrible follow -up to District

9 and this, that, and the other. I just don't

think it was as bad as people make it out to

be, so I'm glad you brought it up. I just had

a fun, that's one of those movies where I had

such a good time in the theater that maybe that

experience kind of helps it along as well. I

think if that was his first movie, it would be

a lot more well received, but I think it gets

that comparison to District 9. It's kind of funny

that you, I felt like with Elysium, I wanted

more of that visual spectacle. Action -wise I

didn't I think there was a lot of great glimpses

here and there but I would almost want a little

bit more but uh I feel like it is like the the

halo movie Neil Bromwell camp was trying to make

like you can definitely see the influence because

he was he was the he was set up to make that

movie but then it fell through but Kind of got

to make Elysium, which was you know a close second

the one thing I would have liked on from that

is shoulder Copley. It was like wow man Yeah,

that guy he's so over the top That's for sure

Matt your number six my number six Has an asterisk

by it Because I'm pretty sure it got released

overseas in 2009 But was released in America

in and within this five -year period And that's

Solomon Kane I Know that Kevin saw some of it

with us. I don't know if either the other two

have seen it Half based on a well really just

taking the name from an old story By the the

original Conan Rybert writer Robert Howard It's

I don't know like at the beginning of it. It

seemed so slow and so Like overdone like yeah,

I've seen this fancy movie a dozen times before

but somewhere like 30 minutes in even after I'd

already written it off it drew me back in And

that's a quality that I find so rarely in movies.

Because I have a lot of time just making fun

of movies. It's probably what I do more than

watching them. So the idea of a movie that I

was making fun of drawing me back in and getting

me interested immediately gives it high props

in my book. It had some turns in it. Some of

them might be a little obvious and some of them

might be a little silly. But for some reason,

it really sat well with me when I was done. And

I would really recommend it to anyone who likes

fantasy movies. I have not seen it, so I can't

comment on it. I think you saw the ending, because

we watched it at your house. Yeah, it was one

of those, I think, that I came in for the last

little bit and didn't have a clue what was going

on. All right. It's been years since I saw it,

and I don't really remember much. I mean, Pete

Pothol's weight was in it, and I saw it around

the time he died, and I thought, that's about

all I can remember. All right. Dan, what is your

number six? Okay, my number six. It is kind of

like a throwback to those classic 80s science

fiction films. It was nostalgic yet refreshing

at the same time, and that was Joe Cornish's

Attack the Block. It was a big year for alien

invasion films in 2011. There was a lot that

came out that year, and I felt like that was

probably one of the best ones. It's a low budget

action film, science fiction film, where you

have these alien creatures. Crashing into this

urban British City. I believe it's someplace

in England I'm not sure exactly but it's about

the like the economy of those two of those two

areas and That was a lot of fun and the monster

design is really cool. It's really minimalistic

where they're just kind of these black creatures

with like this neon Like mouth that like relos,

but it's kind of cool. It's like a simple film

that Like I said, it's if you like those eighties

like science fiction films of the eight. It's

like a Goonies meets I don't know ET or something

like that. I'm not sure but it's it's a lot of

fun He's meets critters. Maybe yeah, that's a

good comparison. Yeah, it's a good I enjoy So

yeah higher. Have you seen it? I have it was

fun, man I mean I another one thing man. What

the hell list was my research must have sucked

that I totally forgot about this one. I am d

failed you this time I know do you know I diesel

Ramos I you know, I did like the top 200 box

office of each year And so I don't know if maybe

just didn't make enough money to make the top

200, but I had a really good time when I saw

this. I mean, it was cool. It was definitely

something different. And he definitely made the

most out of his dollar, especially with that

creature design. That was next on my list of

things to watch. I just ran out of time. But

it was going to be worth it for me to watch it

just based on the plot synopsis, I think, on

Amazon Prime that I listed. It sounds like the

most ridiculous. Like off -the -wall premise

that you could possibly come up with and I was

all about it So I would have watched it probably

but I had another day. And Joey Briega who was

in Attack the Block He's kind of the star of

that is gonna be you know one of the major stars

of Star Wars episode 7 so Yeah, so I gotta see

a research for Star Wars. He's the dude who hasn't

found shit yet when he's calling the desert.

He's the guy who caused all the controversy just

by standing up. I know. Right. All right my number

six higher you can go ahead and plug your ears

for this one because you're not gonna like it

But as far as trying to fit fantasy into my list

Not that that was I had no problem if there was

no fantasy films on my list I could have gone

all straight sci -fi But this honestly is one

of the best fantasy films. I've seen in a long

time I know a lot of people didn't like it. It

does not have good Rotten Tomatoes numbers But

I don't know if I had too much more fun experiences

last year in the theater uh... hoping that can

back me up a little bit uh... since we saw it

together and i'm going with the rock in hercules

from last year that that that that i had just

listen to your episode i were you guys uh...

ripped on a pretty well a very very supportive

of the idea like a six or so they are five maybe

i mean a possible greater and some form of this

i i like the rack uh... and I think this was

a role perfect for him, and maybe it was just

because I had seen Kellen Lutz try it earlier

in the year, like we mentioned, and he just makes

it seem that much more great that The Rock's

doing it, but I just really like the premise

of what the, you know, spoiler alert for people

who haven't seen it, mute your, you know, don't

listen to it for the next couple seconds, but

uh... i'd like the idea that they were going

with the whole you know it's not really hercules

it's doing all these things that he has the team

you know it's got the uh... in exchange is is

it is great in this film uh... i just had fun

yet does it if you were wanting to you know really

look at it with a critical eye and pick it apart

even be able to find stuff that's wrong with

it absolutely but if you just sit back has some

you know popcorn and and enjoy your experience,

you're gonna enjoy it because this is a lot of

fun for me and enough fun that I even put it

ahead of some of those other films so it's all

the way up at number six. I enjoyed Hercules,

I think it should have got better reviews. Screw

the 58 Rotten Tomatoes score that it has. Matt,

what about you? I know you watched it with us.

So, I'm just gonna get this out of the way now,

not telling you where it is in my list, but it

is on my list, but... It's the closest to a solid

Dungeons & Dragons movie we've ever had, even

though we've had three Dungeons & Dragons movies.

Like, it's got the whole party structure, you

know, you got your bard, you got your barbarian,

like, it's got a great party structure, it's

like, honestly, I think one of the greatest fantasy

movies ever. Like, if I were doing a top ten

fantasy movie - Wait, we're talking about Hercules?

Yeah. Okay. I thought maybe I had fallen asleep

and woke up in a different part of the list or

something. Whatever, dude. Like, I put it up

there with the original Cone and the Barbarian

in a solid fantasy movie. Like, seriously, I

can't talk about it enough. It's, I think, the

only 2014 movie I've bought on DVD so far. And

I immediately - Dan, did you see this one? I

have not seen it. So I I'll say I believe I agree

with the high row Well, let me let me help you

out Dan. It's not it's better than kicking puppies

or whatever. It was that was the magic of art

I said I think but yeah, if it's you know Marginally

better than the legend of Hercules with Kellen

lunch. It's always way better than that It's

a way better. Yeah, I actually you know, I had

fun. I mean you it's escapism. It's it's a good

time I mean the rock I thought the rock was really

good in this. I mean he is Is there anybody in

Hollywood better suited to play Hercules in this

dude? I mean, he's a giant hulk of a man. He's

charismatic. He's a good -looking dude. I don't

know about the choice of putting the weave or

wig on him. That was kind of weird to see. But

it's fun. Like Kevin was saying, Ian McShane

was a great time in this. I mean, he was awesome

comic relief. And what I was glad, even though

they do do, there's a lot of visual effects,

and there's some green screen and some CGI stuff,

et cetera. But I think they do handle that in

a way that it doesn't become something that's

the whole movie's focus. It's more towards the

beginning. It's more in showing kind of the storytelling

part of it. So I don't know. I just thought it

was a good balance of humor, action, fantasy

elements, and just something that you can just

have fun with. And I don't know. I think this

is one that over time maybe gets a better wrap

than what it did originally. Yeah, I could see

myself watching this over, like, you know, drinking

a beer and sitting on the couch and bullshitting

and just kind of throwing it in there. Alright,

so that is our top half. So now we're into our

top fives for the rest of the way out and Hiro

You can start off the second half here. What's

your number five? This is one of those that I

kind of was I'm not sure if it fits the category

But I going through what the other list that

you guys were gonna do I don't see how this would

fit in any of those and it's from 2014. It's

only lovers left alive so it kind of I mean it's

vampires and it does have that like I guess,

fantasy sort of feel to it, because I guess a

vampire would fall into that. It's definitely

not horror, but it's this beautiful story about

these two kind of old vampires that have been

living for hundreds of years and have all this

experience and intelligence and kind of angst

built up in them. It's just a wonderful performance

from Hiddleston and, gosh, her name escapes me

here, Tilda Swinton, who had a great year. And

typically you don't think of her as this beautiful

person. I mean, she's not an ugly person, but

she's very, I guess, androgynous is the best

way to describe her. If you've ever seen Orlando,

it kind of fits. Ever seen a film called Orlando?

It's all kind of old with her in it where she

morphs from a man to a woman or vice versa, I'm

not sure which way she goes. She's so sexy in

this movie, man. I mean, I just found her to

be ultra -attractive, like sitting there eating

the blood lollipops or ice cream pops. It was

just one of the moments of the year for me. So

I love this movie. I haven't seen this one, but

I've only heard good things about it. So I'm

going to trust you on this one. That's a great

pic. I didn't. Even I kind of thought about it's

a good I didn't think about it for this list

was just kind of funny because I I Flirted with

the idea of let me in which was the remake of

let the right one in which is kind of the same

thing with vampires But it didn't make it but

yeah, that's a it's a really good pick. That's

a it's a solid solid film All right, Matt, how

do you start your second half with a movie that

has not an amazing story and a whole lot of flash

All right Hansel and Gretel witch hunters I literally,

I watched this, you know, maybe it's just because

it's so in my mind because I watched it a day

or two ago, but I don't know, man. When I'm going

to the theaters, honestly, that's kind of what

I want. Like, it was fun, it was funny, it was

interesting. It had enough of a story to be engaging,

and I don't know. When you said earlier that

if you've seen Hansel and Gretel, you don't need

to see Seventh Son, I was just going to say that

again. When I was done with Hansel and Gretel,

I was like, why haven't I watched this earlier

so I could have gone and seen Seven Sun while

it was still in theaters? Because that's how

much I enjoyed that movie. I don't know. I loved

it and I will defend it to the end, although

it's not the best movie. It was very enjoyable

and exactly what I want from a movie. My girlfriend's

seen this one multiple times and I watched it

with her a month or so ago, maybe two. And yeah,

I mean, it's fun witch hunting and Jeremy Renner

and, you know, I think it's an entertaining one.

I for some reason didn't even think about it

when making this list. I'm not saying it would

have made my list, but something that kind of

flew over my head. I guess I kind of feel the

same way about that movie as how it feels about

Pacific Riming Gravity. But yeah, I just think

it's just not a movie made for me type of thing.

I've got to finish it up. I only watched the

first 15 minutes of it and I don't remember if

I fell asleep or what. It was a long day. I had

to run a long race or something. But I definitely

have heard good things about it and I want to

check it out. Yeah, I would be interested in

anybody watching that in 7th Sun and then trying

to explain to me what the differences are. Dan,

what's your number five? My number five? I had

a hard time finding a place for this because

it was like up higher, it was down lower. I wasn't

sure. And I know it's one that you said you recently

rewatched, Kevin, so I'm curious to see where

it falls on your list. And that is Christopher

Nolan's Inception. I guess, you know, this does

have that visual spectacle, but I would say it

definitely has... I can't really deny this doesn't

have a strong narrative. If anything, it has

too much of a story. It was during that time

when Nolan could do no wrong. I love the concept

of it, just the idea of some really inventive

filmmaking all around, some really fun characters

too. It's such a unique film in a lot of ways.

I think it helped break out people like George

Finkel -Levin, who was having a career obviously

before that, but definitely brought him in. It

was probably the coming -out party for Tom Hardy

in a lot of ways. And I love the snow scene for

very much like a James Bond movie. And it just

has all these different little elements that

I find. And I went a long time without watching

it, and it kind of went down in my mind for a

long time. I was like, oh, it's not as good as

I remember. But then recently, like around a

year ago, he watched it. And I'm like, this is

a lot better than I even gave it credit for the

first time. Like I said, it was a hard time to

figure out where it went, but I ended up putting

Inception at number five. Yeah, I purposely wanted

to rewatch that one because I don't know if I

had even seen it since it came out. I either

saw it once or twice, like in that first year

when it came out, and I hadn't seen it since.

So that was one that I wanted to revisit because

I didn't want to just be basing my list based

on those memories from way back when and just,

oh, I really liked it back then, so I'm going

to put it really high. So that's why I rewatched

that one. And I'll save my thoughts for a few

more seconds on that. But out of the ones I rewatched,

it was one that definitely made my list. So I'll

talk about that in a second. But first, I want

to talk about Edge of Tomorrow, which is my number

five, or Live Die Repeat, or whatever you want

to call this one. It's good, even though it has

Tom Cruise. That was the third title, I guess.

Yes. It's good. Don't judge it based on Tom Cruise

or something like that. This was probably one

of my biggest surprises from last year, actually.

I wasn't expecting much out of it. It was one

of those ones where I had a free day and a free

opportunity to go to the theater. And I had to

decide what was playing. It was playing. I thought,

heck, let's give it a shot. And I was very pleased

that I did. And this is just everything you want

in a science fiction film. I'm going to talk

about a film that's not on my list in comparison,

because I rewatched Source Code. Actually, I

watched it for the first time because I'd never

seen it and I knew a lot of people that really

loved Source Code, so I wanted to watch it real

quick to see if it was going to make my list

or not. All I could think about the whole time

was that Edge of Tomorrow did the same thing

way more effectively in my mind that Source Code

was trying to do because you have the same situation

where you're replaying the same event or kind

of traveling through the same storyline or the

same time period over and over and over again

throughout the movie. And I feel like Edge of

Tomorrow did it in a much more entertaining way

and a much more effective way. And I got a lot

more out of the depth of the story. and I wasn't

as bored with them doing it over and over like

I got with Source Code. Source Code got almost

too monotonous for me and I felt like we went

back and played the same time period so many

times but I still didn't get that much of a scope

for everything that's going on and all the little

details like I did with Edge of Tomorrow. I really

enjoyed it. Emily Blunt, Tom Cruise did a fantastic

job. So Edge of Tomorrow is my number five pick.

All right, Hiro, you're up for number four. Number

four, you guys mentioned it already, 2012's Looper.

I had such a good time with this. I'm excited

to see what Rian Johnson does in the Star Wars

universe because what he did here with time travel

and all that stuff was fantastic. I love this

film. I thought it was such a great time. One

of probably my top five films of 2012. I will

second that by saying it's also my number four.

Nice. Good choice. Since it was my number 10,

I'm not going to complain about you guys having

it on your list as well. Like you said, Hiro,

I'm very looking forward to see what Rian Johnson

does with Star Wars. I love the world it creates.

It's really kind of this dirty grungy world in

the future where time travel is almost like a...

It's not even something that's kind of cool.

It's just this thing that happens. It's almost

looked down upon and all the little different

elements. I also like how it slows down and takes

time. It really allows the story to really just

kind of... It was a challenge because you have

a huge pacing issue there, but it really handles

it well. I love the scene in the diner between

Justin Garth Leavitt and Bruce Willis. That was

a lot of fun and just the technology they used.

A lot of little small touches, like how it...

how it shows time travel, I thought that was

really cool. Nothing really all that glorious

or glamorous, really simple. It's really effective.

I love Looper. It's always on FX, I feel like,

and I tend to watch it and enjoy it more and

more. Nice. It's one of those films that you

don't really hear too many people say anything

bad about. No, it's pretty... It's not much bad

to say, I guess. Maybe you can make fun of Joseph

Gordon -Levitt in his gigantic head, but... Weird

like prosthetic nose man that thing would the

nose was a little off -putting for me, man I

know what what they're going for, but it was

just looks so weird on his face, man Yeah, and

and that one scene with like the disappearing

like limbs and stuff like that Yeah, that was

who was the who was the guy in the like the marshal

in the house? Did he kind of float it up and

then he had it just good? Oh Geez, I can't think

of it. He is in, he's kind of usually a comedian.

I can't think of his name, but he was like, yeah,

he was pretty good. And Jeff Daniels is pretty

funny in that. Like, I'm from the future. You

should give it a pair. Yeah, it's a good movie.

It's a great film. If you haven't seen Looper,

check it out for sure. Matt, since they both

gave their number four, what's yours? My number

four is, you know, I have Brave on there, so

I couldn't have the list without Frozen on there.

I don't know. I don't need to say anything. It's

Frozen. It was amazing. It was undeniable fantasy.

And I love it. I don't care about your pain on

my list at all anymore. I'll tell you this, man.

I have a two -year -old daughter who is 100 %

into princesses, brother. If you could feel this

pain. I get that, because I've been to parties,

and it's just like whenever the kids start getting

out of hand, just any one parent pulls out their

phone and pulls up, let it go, and it just shuts

down. It's amazing the power this thing has on

little kids. I have a little funny anecdotal

story, if you guys indulge me, man. My mother

-in -law bought for my daughter the Elsa dress,

and it has a little built -in music box attached

to the hip, and all she has to do is push the

button, and it'll play about 20 seconds of Frozen.

The first night she got it, man, it was about

four hours straight. She would just whack herself

on the hip just over and over and over. Oh, man.

I want to burn that dress. You haven't yet? No,

I didn't. No, I don't have the heart to do it.

It's her favorite. I'm just kidding. That's right.

I'll take the heat off of The Frozen and everybody

can direct the hate towards me with my number

four. I don't care how many people say bad things

about this film. I don't care how many people

were disappointed with it. I think it's one of

the best science fiction films of the last five

years so it's my number four film and that's

from last year and it's going to be Interstellar.

Again, you get the visual effects, you get the

spectacle about it, you also get a lot of stuff

to think about. I know a lot of people have a

problem with the third act and a lot of people

kind of check out at that point but I found every

bit of this movie fun and engaging and thought

provoking and Matthew McConaughey can work a

spell on you and just make you like anything,

I think. So I think that's what I'm going to

blame it on. But again, I think this is something

that over time will get a better reputation than

what it did from people in the moment. I think

it will grow on people. And I think it'll outlast

some of these other films that got better reviews.

So Interstellar at number four for me. Really

want to watch that again like I didn't hate it

like I feel like every all these movies that

are polarizing that People are love or hate I

tend to fall in the middle like with Birdman

I'm like I'm kind of in the middle and same thing

with an interstellar there's a lot like I really

like about it and there's their stuff that just

did not work for me and I also wonder if it was

something I just built up too much, but I do

want to do want to revisit it But it just it

after the first viewing it was a disappointment

for me I can understand it being a disappointment

and not living up to almost every single person

I know had it in their top. You know three most

anticipated films of the year so it was like

number two for me I like never didn't my life

that I actively avoid seeing trailers as much

as I did for interstellar like only thing I saw

was that first one and I don't know like it was

like literally at time there was a time when

it came on in a theater and I put my shirt up

and like started humming to myself and my wife

almost like left because it's like But see I

get that so I get it being disappointed my problem

is not with people being disappointed on it like

I get as as much of a pedestal as we put that

film on early on in the year and with the teaser

and the Matthew McConaughey over you know voiceover

etc I get it being disappointed I get not living

up to people's expectations I don't get the people

that are just completely crapping on the film

though and saying it's awful and it's you know

doesn't deserve any you know this that and the

other I mean it deserves some credit because

it's not an awful film. You might not love it,

and I'm not saying you, Dan, but I'm just saying,

as a critic, you might not love the film and

it might not have lived up to your expectations,

but don't take away from the fact that it's still

a quality science fiction film. I'm going to

go ahead and hold my thoughts a little further

on that one, but... Alright. I got someone in

my corner then. Oh, yeah. And like I said, I

even get people having a problem with some of

the twists at the end and this, that, and the

other, but for me, and I get exactly when and

why people have a problem with it, but... for

me when I was watching it, I did not have the

same issue and I think that's why it worked better

for me than some people. So all right, top three.

Jairo, what do you start with? And number three

is, well, let's see if we can ruffle the feathers

here one more time, man. 2014's Lucy. I know

you love this movie. I love this movie, man.

I had such a good time. Okay, spoiler alert,

I understand the ending might not be... The last

five minutes of this movie is crap. But everything

up to that was so much fun. I mean, it's just

mind -numbingly just... Forget the, like... Forget

the logic and forget what you've seen. It's just

so much fun watching Scarlett Johansson kick

ass. Watching kind of like the intercuts that

um that he throws in there with the animals and

stuff like that I love that my theater was laughing

or rolling having a good time people were like

cheering I just I had such a great experience

with Lucy man. I can't wait to see it again When

I can you see this I my girlfriend thought and

I missed it So I can't comment too much on it

on my list of stuff to catch up with but damn.

What do you think? I like Lucy. I didn't really

consider it for this list. When I think of that

movie, the line that comes to my mind is the

line, I remember what your breast milk tastes

like, which is one of the most surprising lines

of 2014. I do agree that there's a lot of fun

there. I love the first 30 minutes or so. Like

the like it was really having a lot of fun I

felt like it was really being tongue -in -cheek

in the beginning especially with the interplaying

of the different images of the animals and stuff

like that I kind of I guess what I wish it did

more that I kind of ended up going away and Almost

becoming a little bit too serious, but I did

like it I tend to like that more than most people

obviously not much as high row But I I get why

people hate it like I you said like the last

15 minutes or so kind of just go a little batshit

and crazy Yeah, it really falls off Way the fuck

off. It's like, you know, it's Luc Besson trying

to do real life, and it's exactly the way I would

have expected it to be. Yeah. It's just kind

of crazy. Yeah, he's a madman, dude. I mean,

but in such a good way in this film. I love that.

You know, that scene with the breast milk thing.

I love that scene. I named that as one of my

favorite scenes of the year, but it's just such

a random. Yeah, for me, yeah, it was one of the

best scenes of the year. Maybe you could have

dropped that one line and it would have added

more, but I kind of... understood where she was

going with it, where Basan was going with that

entire thing. So that kind of touched me, like

the emotional grip of all those memories coming

onto her just, it moved me. So I just had a good

time with Lucy. All right, Matt, your number

three. My number three is probably the most out

of left field of all of my list. That's saying

something. I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. No,

it's fine. I'm all over the place. And that's

Robot and Frank. Nice. I like that movie. I think

I was on Amazon Prime. I had watched two or three

movies on Tuesday, and I was like, I need to

find something. I just went to the sci -fi and

fantasy section and just read the synopsis of

everyone that was within the date, and this one

was by far the most interesting, so I watched

it. For those of you who don't know, it's about

an elderly person, an elderly man. He's got,

like, Alzheimer's. He's slowly fading. and his

son just having difficulty dealing with them.

And my girlfriend works in a nursing home, and

so I've heard a lot of these stories and it's

very depressing and everything. Son buys the

guy a robot, that's the sci -fi element, to help

take care of him and to see him into his twilight

years. And then it comes out that this guy used

to be a... an ex heist man slash con man and

then he starts teaching the trade to the robot

and it's just like quirky and fun it's got like

nice elements of drama nice elements of comedy

um and i don't know man it's uh if if anything

on this list i could suggest it would be that

one honestly it was incredibly enjoyable what's

it called again robot and frank Yeah, I think

it's on Netflix too. I could be wrong, but it's

it's it's a cute film It's like the relationship

that builds between those though, you know, Frank

I can never say his name. It's a guy who played

Nixon and Frost Nixon But it's a nice it's I

get an example of like how like smaller any films

are able to get into sci -fi And it's a good

it's a good watch. It sounds like something I

have to check out Jennifer Garner. Yeah, I haven't

I Haven't seen that one either. So I'll check

it out as well. Um, Dan, what's your number three?

My number three, sometimes there's a movie where

I like a lot more than I can rationalize and

that's kind of my number three. I just, I don't

know, I just love the film. I have a lot of fun

with it every time I watch it. And I love what

it says about nostalgia and what it's like the

kind of the benefits and just the takeaways and

the negative effects of it. And I'm not even

a huge Woody Allen fan. I love some of his films,

but a lot of them are... blind spots for me and

that's Midnight in Paris from 2011. Oh good choice.

For those that don't know that's when Owen Wilson

plays like the de facto Woody Allen character

and he kind of goes back in the past to different

time periods in Paris and meets like different

eccentric characters in history and uh probably

the best being Ernest Hemingway who is just like

every time he's on so the guy I can't I feel

bad for forgetting the actor that plays him but

every time he's on screen it just says something

hilarious and a lot of fun so it's I love the

score to it too. Uses Paris in a lot of cool

ways and it's to me. It's the best thing Woody

Allen has done. I don't know maybe in a long

long time and It's such a lovely film. I love

it a lot. So How are you said you like I did

like it I mean it was it was a very By the way

or a Cory Stoll played Ernest Hemingway. I was

looking it up I was looking it up, but it was

such a fun film and Everything echoing everything

you said man. It's just so it was a romantic

film as well man I mean kind of the him kind

of getting in touch with himself and and then

kind of finding it finding a maybe a better soulmate

or a better Somebody a little bit better than

Rachel McAdams. I had a good time with that film.

It was excellent choice Yeah, I do think like

Rachel McAdams character is probably the the

the one downside of that movie like her acting

is fine Her character is just given really short

end of the stick. But yeah, I just it's just

She sticks out really badly and I I understand

that she's meant to but it's almost like she's

in a different movie Like she's the characters

from a different movie Yeah, yeah, she's a little

like, like the treatment of her character is

really harsh. Like it's like there's, she seems

very just, like you, it's too easy to hate her.

I think it would have been maybe a little bit

better if she was a little bit more likeable.

You just, you know, it just, you just want him

to get away from her, which I think it kind of

makes his choice a little easier on the audience.

Right, right. All right. My number three has

already been mentioned. I said I'd save my thoughts

a little bit. Dan, I don't think you're too far

off with putting it at your number five, so my

number three is Inception. Again, like I said,

I rewatched it just to make sure I wasn't living

off memories and enjoyed it just as much, if

not more, the second time around. I really feel

it held up. A bunch of good performances like

you mentioned with Joseph Gordon -Levitt, DiCaprio,

Tom Hardy, and just a fun way and a unique angle

to the whole science fiction genre, something

obviously most people hadn't seen before. Almost

kind of had that same effect as something like

The Matrix did probably with a lot of people

back in that time period where it's just something

that was so out of left field and so inventive

and creative that... Who just made it a lot of

fun and made it a lot of people's top picks,

you know for that year I think it was my number

one film that year when I when I did my countdown

so A lot to love about inception. So that's my

number three man. I forgot to mention the last

time it was brought up But damn it that that

was the third one of this list that I wish I

would have I don't know how this escaped me man

My research really sucked because there's there

Inception is a movie that I really enjoyed it.

I borderline love man really inventive film,

great acting performances, excellent pick. Alright,

so top two, here we come, Hiro, you're first,

what's your number two? My number two is, this

is one of those kind of like what I was talking

about before when we first started the list is,

the sci -fi is kind of almost, it's definitely

the plot point but it's definitely not the focus

of the film and it's About Time from 2013. Nice.

It's a time travel movie with Donald Gleason,

Bill Nighy, Rachel McAdams, and the lovely Margot

Robbie. Be careful now. Yeah, here I go. I don't

want to get in. Yeah, that's a good pick. To

me, it's one of the best romantic comedies since

Love Actually. It's such a good movie. Yeah,

I love it. Honestly, I would have watched this

film. It literally was my pick for last night.

It was going to be my research pick for my fourth

film this week to watch. And I went to... to

see if it wasn't on Netflix, it wasn't on Amazon

Prime, and it wasn't on demand. The only way

I was going to be able to watch this was by spending

at least $12, and I just couldn't pull the trigger

on it, so I did not see it yet. It's on HBO Go

if you have that. I don't. It's a very good film.

It's definitely one of those things that kind

of comes out of left field with the family pain

and stuff like that. It's a very father -son

movie. I'll leave it at that, but let me know

what you think when you see it, man. I loved

it. For sure. It's on my list. It's very high

on my list because you were not the only person

that suggested that I see that one, so I definitely

got to get that one watched real soon. All right,

Matt, number two. Number two, I don't know if

you guys can take exception at this one. But

I feel like it fits this list because it's kind

of sci -fi, it's kind of fantasy, more than anything

else, and that's Guardians of the Galaxy. It's

the only Star Wars movie we got from 2010 to

2015. So, I don't know, man. I only didn't include

it because there'd be another list, but yeah,

no denying that. So it's definitely one of the

most original comic books. Yeah, and it's definitely

something I would have included if I wasn't holding

it. back for a possibility that it might show

up on our comic book list. If we were combining

those together, it would probably be in there,

so no faults for you on that one at all. Yeah,

this is a movie that I have to revisit. The first

time I... I've only seen it once. I saw it in

the theater. We reviewed it for our show, and

I have no familiarity with this property at all,

so like the first hour... I spent really confused

trying to figure out the names and get everybody

in order because they do have these kind of kooky

names like Yondu, Wondu, Rondu, Rajon Rondo.

They all have different colors. Yeah, they're,

yeah, so... Actually most of them are blue, so...

I still had a good time with it. I think that

on revisit I'm going to end up really loving

this film, but I just haven't gotten around to

it yet. Actually, at one point I said I think

I only bought one movie from 2014. I did buy

this and it was the first one I bought from 2014.

I was listening to Kevin Smith's Jay and Son

of Bob Get Old podcast, and he was talking about

how he was re -watching it again, and how he

just couldn't stop crying, and he's trying to

get his wife to watch it, who's like, I won't

watch any of those stupid movies. And just like,

his touching portrayal of the movie, I had just

like, the second, I might not even have stopped,

I might have been driving and just got on my

Amazon app and bought it. Like, I need this in

my life. That's interesting. I'm the same way.

I'm trying to limit how much I'm buying. So I

only bought three movies this year. I bought

Chef, Boyhood, and the Lego Movie. Those aren't

bad choices at all. Those are great. No, those

are good choices as well. I've only seen one

of them though. I'm trying to limit my purchases

too. I did buy Guardians of the Galaxy, and I'm

trying to remember if I've bought Lego Movie.

Alright, Dan, you're number two. Alright, well

this is where I need to brace myself, because

I'm pretty sure I'm going to be alone on this

one very much so. I'm not sure what Hyru. I don't

think you'd like this movie, but I could be wrong.

I don't remember. But yeah, it's a movie that

definitely you guys reviewed on Weekend in the

Movies way back when, and you guys did not like

it, but I do really love this film, and I just

love what it has to say about... celebrity in

a lot of ways, body image, identity, and I think

there's a lot to take out of it. I love how it

does a lot to make you uncomfortable as an audience

member with its score or just the way it allows

different scenes to play out. And that is Jonathan

Glazer's Under the Skin. And again, not one that

has science fiction up front. It definitely is

a component to it, but this... almost like the

opposite version of Evasion of Body Snappers

where you have a person from another planet coming

in and trying to observe this world. I just love

how it kind of makes you into an observer. a

unique observer to that of Earth and the way

we live. I get people who hate it. When I reviewed

this, I did my written review, but when I first

saw it, I'm like, this is a movie that I love,

but I would pretty much recommend to nearly no

one. It's one of those films that it legitimately

is one of those polarizing movies that 2014 had

tons of, and this was when I found myself on

the loving end. I think that if this movie did

reach a lot of people, that it's an excellent

choice for this list. For me, I didn't hate it.

I just think that Glazer spent a little... For

me, there's a big dividing line in this movie.

There's the beginning where she's observing humanity,

and then there's the second part where she's

coming to grips with what it means to be a human,

or what it means to be an entity, or whatever

it is. I think that... They spent a lot more

time on the observation and too little time on

the second part that I found absolutely fascinating.

When she's kind of going through those relationships

and those experiences and stuff and trying to

be almost a human, I found all that extremely

fascinating. Also had one of the creepiest scenes

of the year for me, man, the baby scene. Freaked

me the hell out, dude, but all in all, I mean,

I thought it was... But especially the beginning

was a touch pretentious for me like it was a

little too much in itself Opening sequence. Yeah,

I could definitely I can definitely see that

and agree and I could see where the maybe it

does Kind of spend a little bit too time too

much time on the beginning part when it comes

to like just the observation of the world but

I know I guess what I took a what I loved about

that was just the way it did it and just its

use of like You know professional actors, just

normal humans, and how that ties into it. I thought

that was kind of interesting, and I'd like that

baby scene, like you mentioned. I thought that...

Just there's so much going on that scene what

really just subtly that I love so but like it

but I do I can't really defend the very opening

of it I do think well until like it gets to that

until you see Scarlett Johansson but yeah that

little like yes sir I thought that was Jonathan

Glaser being like hey look I'm like Kubrick I'm

like no okay settle down right and yeah it's

exactly what I thought man oh I don't think I

would I would think it'd be a better movie without

that like just you know right oblique beginning

or whatever they were trying to do. Yeah, it

was almost like a gut punch that I had to recover

from, like, okay, he's your, you know, and then

start the movie again for me, so. Yeah. But I

just really found that second half or second,

third, or whatever it was so fascinating, and

I just wish we would have gotten a lot more of

that. Cool. What makes films good is that...

Not everyone loves the same stuff, and we can

have debate and discussion. I just love that

score though too, man. I know my co -host Barry

hates it. He said it was like a cat jumping on

a piano. But I loved it. I thought it worked

perfectly for that film. I like Barry more and

more as each day passes. I didn't have too many

problems with that movie, but the score was the

worst part of that movie. I love the score, I'm

not gonna lie. I can see why. To me it depends

on what you're looking for a score to do, and

I think... Would the score work effectively outside

of the movie? No, but I think when it goes to

setting mood and what it's it's it's perfect

for that because that feeling that you're getting

I think in a lot of ways that's what it's intended

to do like it's that offsetting of mood that

making you feel anxious or just like like like

the title says like you know your skin feeling

you know out of your skin like not feeling comfortable

and I think that that that could make people

hate it, but I just found it really I don't know,

engulfing in... I mean, I'm not going to put

the score on to work out or run in the gym or

some shit like that, but it does work with this

movie. I'd throw it in the haunted house or something

like that, you know? There you go. I'm trying

to decide maybe without the score if I would

have enjoyed it more or not, because it literally

is one of the biggest things that made me want

to leave the room during the movie is the score.

Yeah, it just was so great and on my nerves.

I understand the mood it was going for, but it

also just made me want to leave. I don't want

to listen to this anymore. Obviously, I hate

that film, so whatever. But I respect that a

lot of people like it, and I was expecting it

to show up somewhere on the conversation, so

I'm glad it got a mention for those that love

it. My number two has been mentioned already,

as all my films have been at this point, so I

get no... Everyone stole my thunder, but I'm

going to do the same thing and kind of cheat

a little bit like Dan did and a little bit like

Hiro did. Dan kind of included both of the Harry

Potter films in one. Hiro, you were somewhat,

I think, trying to include both of the Planet

of the Apes films, and that's where I'm going

with my number two. If I have to pick one, I

guess I'll go Don of the Planet of the Apes,

but let me throw them both in there because I

don't... know if a reboot or a remake has been

done better than Planet of the Apes has been.

And I'm not saying, I'm not trying to take away

anything from every, from three out of the five

original films, because, you know, they obviously

have their place too, but man, this is done so

well. The visual effects are so amazing and what

Andy Serkis and Toby Keville did in Dawn is out

of this world. And I don't know, like... That's

a property that can easily not be taken serious,

and it can be seen as just this fantastical,

unreal, fantasy -type science fiction film or

whatever, but there's so many underlying themes

in the history of this franchise, and they're

touching on a bunch of them here in this recent

reboot. below the surface there's a lot more

than meets the eye with this uh... and it's usually

one of my favorite uh... science fiction fantasy

films of the last five years maybe even longer

before that so i'll go with the planet of the

apes at my number to nice obviously i agree with

you all right now i still feel bad not finding

a spot for it but it's yeah no denying it's i

love those movies all right that means it's time

for number one before we get there uh... and

give everybody a chance to to tell us what their

number one is we did have a couple uh... responses

on twitter and social media as far as what other

people's number ones film uh... were for the

last five years science fiction and fantasy not

as many as i would hope for but uh... dj valentine

uh... he's saying about time and her are his

one a and one b and since i really mentioned

both of them so obviously you guys are in line

with that and then you do have a supporter out

there and andrew ellington uh... put under the

skin as well. So a couple responses there from

the Twitterverse will probably get more interaction

as we start going through this series throughout

the year and try to get some more people's number

ones included. But let's get to our number one.

So Hiro, what is the best science fiction fantasy

film of the last five years? You stole my thunder

already Kevin man. I'm going also with Interstellar.

I understand the last little bit of it kind of

does fall apart like Especially with with the

old lady. I was like man. That's kind of rough,

but throughout this film Matthew McConaughey

had me like He had me like kind of choked up

with the family aspect of it. I love the the

special effects I love the story I I even bought

into the gobbledygook about love as a as like

a what do they call it a Like an element type

of thing. Because you can't ignore the fact that

humans have emotions and that aspect and that

part of decision making that can't be ignored

and must be factored in. But the way they worded

it and the way they worked it in, I thought it

was fantastic. I love this movie. uh... even

especially the stuff on our in the very beginning

was fantastic with between uh... matthew carne

hey and his daughter that stuff was tough man

especially saying goodbye and then watching the

videos and stuff that's that's the part breaking

man i love this film uh... the scene with the

locking mechanism on the thing where the whole

thing goes quiet. The docking sequence. Yeah,

the docking sequence. I was trying to avoid saying

docking because I always go to the new depths

when that depth pops up. But I loved it, man.

I thought that that whole film was fantastic.

I will say if I had to pick out a problem, the

biggest problem I had was with the whole love

angle that they were going with and how I get

what they were trying to do. that could have

been handled a slightly different way that wouldn't

have angered people or wouldn't have been a contention

with some people. I agree. I mean, it could have

been done a little bit better, but I do understand

what they meant. Right. And I buy their meaning,

but I just don't like the execution quite so

much. But it's definitely something that should

be factored in. Obviously, I'm not going to have

too much of a problem with it since I had it

at my number four. Like I said, I think this

is the one that Later on down the road will be

remembered a little bit better than it is currently

But I'm saying that there is a lot of love for

this film. I don't want to make it seem like

everyone's hating it Some people in our circle

obviously don't like it as much. I know JD and

then session guys really don't like it at all.

I believe I don't remember if it was First Time

Watchers or if it was DJ also didn't like it

very much. It's again another somewhat polarizing

film but it does still have good numbers. I mean

it's got a 73 on Rotten Tomatoes from critics.

It's got 87 Rotten Tomatoes from the general

public. It's not as hated on as I might make

it seem. Great number one pick from you. I really

love it. Matt, what about you? What's your number

one? I've already tipped my hand. My number one

is Hercules. We can move on. Hey, I support that

as the best fantasy. If we were doing straight

fantasy, I would probably put that as the best

fantasy film of the last four or five years.

But I think there's some science fiction ones

that, for me, trump it. But I have no problem

with it being on your list there. I love it.

And I still have not seen it since the last time

you mentioned it. It has been that long, you

probably could have seen it in that time period.

It's interesting that Matt found so much fantasy

to love in this. For me, I think the closest

thing that I came to fantasy was only lovers

left alive. Other than that, everything else

was sci -fi. Fantasy's where I'm at though. Yeah,

yeah. We'll touch on that here in a second, but

real quick, I think Dan and I have to give our

number ones, which I have a sneaky suspicion

are the same film. Dan, what's your number one?

Yeah, I think you're right there and it was I

think our number one for 2013 and it's my number

one here and Hiro was number I think you're number

10 if I'm not mistaken and that's her and I know

I said like I'm looking for a film that like

it has Mostly science fiction and I feel that

is definitely her. I think it had that it says

a lot I think it's the most thematically rich

movie I've seen in a very long time and I've

watched it like it's been playing on HBO a lot

and I tend to watch it all like every time it's

on And every time I watch I think there's something

new I take of it and every movie on this list

I think I could kind of look at and think there's

something I can do to make it better even with

under the skin my number two But with her I legitimately

think I think the p -word is is dangerous because

I don't think any movie is necessarily perfect

But I would I consider this the closest thing

I've seen to a masterpiece when it comes to moviemaking

and in a long time and It's just I don't know

it to me. It's there so it says so much. I think

primarily about communication, the way we speak

with one another, especially looking at Joaquin

Phoenix's job in there where he's writing these

letters. It opens up with him giving this elegant

speech, but then you see what it's for, and it's

a great introduction into what that movie gets

into. I love her. And then, Kevin, I'm guessing

you agree. Yes, I agree with you 100 % on your

number one pick. Her is, like I said, it's as

close to a masterpiece as I've seen and maybe

that's what spoiled me for 2014 is that I saw

such a great movie to end 2013 and I was hoping

the same thing would happen in 2014 and it really

didn't until I saw Whiplash recently. That would

probably be the closest thing I got to that.

I still can't understand how... Joaquin Phoenix

and Scarlett Johansson don't get any type of

love whatsoever when it came to Academy. She

got nominated, didn't she? No, she was ineligible

because she did not appear on screen. Yeah, that

was a big to -do because she was just a voice

-over, blah, blah, blah. But yeah, I love her.

There's not much to say that Dan didn't say.

It was the best film of that year. It's the best

science fiction film I've seen in a very, very,

very long time. And, you know, Hyrule, you had

it on your list, so you're obviously in somewhat

of agreement there that it's deserving. Not as

high as Dan and I had it, but her is my number

one as well. I definitely love that movie. All

right, so those are our picks we're just gonna

go real quick run down the list for you And then

we'll try to wrap this up. I know we've been

going pretty long. We're just kind of a quick

Final thoughts after that so higher. What was

your list ten through one if you have I have

her and number ten followed by super eight dawn

of the planet apes Men in black three Elysium

only lovers left alive Looper Lucy about time

and interstellar All right, Matt, what about

you ten through one Pirates of the Caribbean

on strange tide I think there's something that

it's supposed to be I think it's tides with the

Z or S rather brave Europa report Pacific Rim

Solomon Kane Hansel and Gretel witch hunters

frozen robot and Frank Guardians of the Galaxy

and then finally Hercules Yeah, I had number

ten Kevin in the woods number eight Harry Potter

and Deathly Hollows part one and two Stream color

gravity attack the block inception looper midnight

in Paris under the skin and for number one her

And mine were looper Pacific Rim snowpiercer

gravity Hercules edge of tomorrow interstellar

inception Planet of the Apes I won't say the

first part because it's either of them and her

So real quick guys before we conclude our thing

real quick since we're looking back at the last

five years and the decade kind of at the halfway

point I wanted to get you guys' opinions as we

were looking at this, as you were making your

list, kind of on the state of the fantasy genre,

of the science fiction genre, because one thing

I looked at when I was making this list, and

kind of going back as far as what I selected

for it, I have one, two, three, four, five films

on my list from last year, and I have four films

on my list from 2013. I only had one from each

of the other three years, one from 12, one from

11, one from 10, which makes me kind of... My

first thought is that science fiction has been

kind of on somewhat of a comeback where we get

a lot more science fiction films per year. And

then vice versa for fantasy. I mean, we went

from a time where we were getting all kinds of

Harry Potter films, all kind of Lord of the Rings

films. And I felt like fantasy was a bigger presence

back then, but maybe I'm misremembering history

because it seems like fantasy has almost gone

away. Dan, what do you think? Where are we as

far as science fiction and fantasy as a genre,

and what's the next five years hold for it as

far as the rest of the decade? I definitely think

it's evident that fantasy is not nearly as prevalent

as it once was. I mean, unless you can consider

maybe superhero films, which people tend to put

in that category. I mean, maybe since the 80s

it's kind of been down. Not that there's bad...

I mean, there's good fantasy films out there,

obviously, but... they're harder to find. And

I think what's good about science fiction is,

like I mentioned, is that with it being easier

to make special effects, with you being able

to do a lot of great things just with a laptop,

it's opened up that genre to independent filmmakers,

really, for the first time, better than it ever

has. Because back in the day, science fiction

films done by indie filmmakers tend to not look

all that great. But we talked about Robot and

Flank, Frank, there's other things like Another

Earth. which is in a lot of other, even something

like Snowpiercer, you definitely can do a lot

more. So I think it's going to, if anything,

just get better because now you have more filmmakers

being able to make movies that they want to make

without having to go through the studio system.

Matt, I know you're a big fan of the fantasy

genre, and I know you've been waiting for it

to make some type of resurgence. what what's

the explanation that i agree with dan that because

of the ability technologically that we have you

know science fiction is become easier and easier

every year we go forward and uh... also because

of the way that movies are made now it's uh...

like you said there's more independent more small

-budget people that can that can pull this off

why isn't the same for fantasy it should be shouldn't

be the same that and that more people can pull

off this fantasy or does it something else that

we don't have present right now well i got a

couple a couple of ideas one i don't know fantasy

is on a downward spiral just over the last five

years I think it's like dance that it's maybe

a thing since the 80s because I've got a lot

of movies from 2014 that were fantasy I didn't

have like Dracula, Maleficent, 300 I mean that

just didn't make my list but they were there

um I think uh honestly one of the biggest things

hurting it is fantasy is fantasy is fantasy and

like even though you can reimagine and do new

things with it it hasn't changed And just since

the 80s, the amount of technology we've gotten

in the real world has made irrelevant almost

every sci -fi movie from the 80s and before.

So you gotta keep coming up with new, like where's

the next thing? And so it's constantly invigorated

by real life, and I think that makes it easier

to write a new script that hasn't been done before

because the ideas weren't there before, whereas

fantasy doesn't have that. Hiro, are audiences

these days just more adept to embrace a science

fiction film than they are a fantasy film? Because

we have had some fantasy films like Matt mentioned,

but they usually just get crapped on as far as

box office and reviews. I mean, but really, what

have they been offered? I mean, just take a look

at most recently with Seventh Son. And one considered

Jupiter ascending kind of a hybrid of sci -fi

fantasy, right? And you know outside of the two

big properties Harry Potter properties and the

Lord of the Rings properties Matt's right. I

mean we haven't gotten really any of these big

fantasy films and since the 80s I mean When was

the last time we got had anything decent outside

of those two? I mean granted there is love for

Hansel and Gretel and some of those but I mean

as far as as the the larger movie -going audience,

there really hasn't been much. I mean, somebody

bring back the Neverending Story or something,

man. I mean, they tried. They tried with Clash

of the Titans. They tried with Immortal. They've

tried with a bunch of stuff that just has not

worked at all. But those are really not good

efforts, though. I mean, they're not putting

together... Lower the Rings... is a well -done

series of films. I mean, Harry Potter, even though

maybe it wasn't as high on it, I can step back

and look at them and say, these are well -done

as a whole. But those films, the Titans films

and that crap, they're just not good, man, on

any level. So if there's someone out there that

can put a good effort and give us something,

I'm not saying that I don't think that audiences

would be opposed to it. If someone would give

us something good in the fantasy realm, for some

reason it just hasn't worked for whoever's tried

it. I don't know if they got the wrong premise,

or if they do the wrong casting, or if it's just

the bad writing. I don't know what it is, but

they have not been able to put it together when

it comes to fantasy lately. Alright, last thing

before we go, because I didn't give you guys

a shot. If you want to, real quick, without going

too far in depth, did you have anything that

just... barely missed your cut or any honorable

mentions that you'd want to throw out there,

just so they're in the conversation before we

close out, Hiro. Oh, well, you know what? Since

I don't have that much time, I'll rattle them

off real quick, because I have a ton of them.

You made me boot off the X -Men's, but the time

travel aspect is sci -fi for me. Both of them,

I love those films. I have Predators, Daybreakers,

the source code, The Thing, the remake one, Chronicle,

Cloud Atlas, Dread, The Star Trek, World War

Z, and Oblivion. Those are my honorables. And

they were kind of all jumbled up. Yeah, I agree

with you on some of those I had Star Trek into

darkness and World War Z on there I put a thought

into maybe including one of the Hunger Games

films In time I that one gets pooped on a lot,

but I somewhat enjoyed in time Timberlake joint.

Yeah, okay. All right. Yeah, I thought it was

a clever idea I mean, yeah the execution became

a little bit more of a chase and like a chase

movie, but I thought the There were some cool

sci -fi elements to it. Adjustment Bureau, I

liked back in the day. It just wasn't good enough

to make my list. What about you, Dan? One was

Black and Eve's, which I'm probably saying incorrectly.

It's a Spanish retelling of the Snow White story

that's done in... Oh, yes. It's a silent film.

Existar is one of the people from The Artist,

which I would recommend. I think that's on Netflix

as well. Grabbers, which I think, Matt, I think

you would really like that because it's kind

of a story where you have these aliens coming

and they're kind of like invasion of the body

snatchers and they find out the only thing that

can repel them is by getting drunk. So it's really

kind of like a Shaun of the Dead type of story.

Planet of the Apes. Troll Hunter, which is kind

of a really... Interesting film known Colonia,

which I kind of like visually wise but besides

that not a big fan It's really sort of Prometheus,

which I know get trapped on but I do like Prometheus

Ruby Sparks Ruby Sparks Snowpiercer agents Mario

detention Noah. I thought that was a good fit

in the fantasy realm Robot and Frank that's been

mentioned before another earth the history of

God dang it I'm a dork and I have a gigantic

Excel spreadsheet that I keep track of every

movie I watch in categories of my genre. I just

started doing that. I just started doing that

last year. Another one, History of Future Folk,

which is on a really low, low budget film. It's

like in Power Rangers meets Inside Lewin Davis.

It's really weird, but it's a lot of fun. The

Machine and that's it. Oh, I forgot my two highest

honorable mentions, and you mentioned one of

them, which made me think of it. So Prometheus

was, I think, my number 11. And the Book of Eli

was actually my number 12. I know that one gets

crapped on a lot, but I actually enjoyed the

Book of Eli. I didn't know what category that

would fit into, so I left it off just because

of that. But that probably would have made my

top 10. Matt, what about you? Anything that didn't

quite make your list? Yeah, I consider it at

least just for the joke, putting on Orc Wars

slash Dragon Fire, or the Y, just because it

was such a weird pick to watch that one time.

I mean, most of the things that Ben mentioned,

the one I would like to talk about is Sucker

Punch, which was like... It was three worlds

and if they had done two of them any two of them

I think it would have been an interesting movie,

but the third one just kind of ruined it And

I think that that one had so much potential that

got really ruined Also inception I had because

I did see it, but I don't remember being wowed

and now I think I need to go and rewatch it Yes,

do that, please No Don't know I think there's

so much to pick from the science fiction and

even with honorable mentions not a lot of fantasy

stuff getting mentioned outside of like Noah

and a couple so But I definitely good Mentions

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