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at the Movies, superhero news aplenty, an interesting

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Movies. Alright, welcome to another episode of

Weekend at the Movies. Should have a pretty fun

episode here for you full of some good stuff

and some tweaks to the format, so just giving

you a heads up before I introduce who's here

with me. We'll start by introducing everybody,

kind of checking in with how people's weeks have

been going and what movies they've been seeing.

Then we'll, as always, take a quick look at the

box office. And then we'll float into our news

segment, which is going to be a little bit different.

We've twisted up the news segment a little in

listening back to user comments and just personally

listening to the episodes. Our news segments

were admittedly getting somewhat stale, so hopefully

this new little twist will add some zest to it.

We'll list off what trailers are available for

you all to check out. And then we'll get into

our main attraction, which this week will consist

of a small A brief Oscar discussion, mainly from

Dan and myself reacting to the Oscars from last

week, because I know not everybody watched them.

And then we'll get into our main, main attraction,

which will be the return of movie games. And

it's a supersized version of that, because we've

never had three contestants for a movie game.

day, so that'll be fun and hopefully go off without

a hitch. And then we'll just take a quick look

at the upcoming weekend and what people can look

forward to from films for this next week. And

we'll finish with a question for you guys so

you can interact with next week's episode. But

before we can get to any of that, we have to

introduce who's on the panel today. And it is

the Weekend at the Movies alum. We got everybody

here, basically, outside of one of the original...

fellas and Starting here with movie revolt Dan

making his return Dan that you've been on some

special episodes but it's been a long time since

you've been on a Weekend at the movies just regular

old episode. I think the last time was the Oscars.

So It's been about a year. So yeah, it's come

full circle But it's great to have you here.

And then of course, we have Adolphus Shabadoo.

Hello, Nate. Hello and Fridley said hi Matt.

Hi Alright, let's start with Matt Matt. How's

your week been going? Have you seen any films?

This week and just say what's been going on?

My week's been pretty boring. It's my first week

going back to work as I mentioned last week I

had the week up and as such I haven't watched

any movies, but we didn't talk about what the

movies I watched last week and I watched like

half a dozen so I'm gonna just act like that

happened this week um Because I had the week

off last week, so I decided I would uh catch

up on the old Kevin Smith movies, because I'd

seen some of them, but I hadn't seen all of them

and it had been forever since I'd seen the ones

I had seen. So I watched Clerks, then Mallrats,

then Chasing Amy, then Jay and Silent Bob Strike

Back, then Clerks 2, which is just about all

of them. I didn't watch Dogma, it's the only

one I actually own. So I've seen it a million

times, and also Comedy Central had it just set

on repeat for like five years there. I didn't

need to rewatch that one. So what was the what

was the best out of the group? Probably Chasing

Amy. Like it's the least funny of them all, but

it's like the best movie of them all. Like the

clerks wanted to like really, I don't know, have

a very personal connection. Like I didn't realize

that until this rewatch because I'd seen them

both in the past. Just how much certain elements

mimic my life. And that was really cool to see

But I don't think they're nearly as good of movies

But they're hella entertaining What's the worst

of the group? Mallrats Yeah, Mallrats No, no,

no, no, wait, nevermind Jay and Silent Pop's

right back Like Mallrats, I don't know, Mallrats

got some issues It's fun, it's great, and I imagine

if I'd watched it in the mid -90s, it would have

been amazing It's a little dated, but Jay and

Zion Bobstrike Back is literally like masturbatory.

It's just, hey, every character that's been in

any of the other movies is getting in this one.

Jason Lee plays two or three different characters

because he's been in every movie as a different

character. I think Ben Affleck might play two

characters but I could be wrong about that. like

a couple people just are playing multiple characters

because they've been multiple characters in different

movies it's just like we need to get every single

character like even if they only get one line

at the very end um i mean it's not terrible it's

not the worst thing but it is a little just like

how can i make it work so that everyone's in

it and that it doesn't help it i think you have

just won the award though for today for the best

use of of a word that you don't hear every day,

so I appreciated that. Did you see anything outside

of the Kevin Smith movies? I saw one that's technically

not a Kevin Smith movie, but kind of, which is

the Jay and Silent Bob super groovy cartoon movie.

I don't remember who adapted it. It might have

been Jason Muse, but it's like Kevin Smith wrote

a comic book like 15 years ago. someone adapted

it to be a screenplay script or whatever, and

then Jason Muse produced and maybe directed it

into a cartoon movie. Kevin Smith mostly just

did voice work on it, I believe. Gosh, I'm not

familiar with that one. Dan, what's your opinion

on the Kevin Smith filmography? What's the best

and worst? Wow, the best. I do like dogma quite

a bit. In Clerks, the worst? I might have to

say... Jersey girl probably it would probably

say the worst out of everything he's done. I

need to see that one because Or maybe you don't

according to Dan I like I wasn't a big fan of

tusk either. Honestly. Oh my gosh tux I was waiting

for that. All right, Nate. Go ahead is so bad.

I saw it I red boxed it and it was it was the

worst piece of crap I've ever seen I got I was

torn between seeing Tusk and Horns. I wasn't

sure which one I should see. Oh, definitely Horns.

Neither. Neither is the answer to that question.

No, Horns is good. No, it wasn't. I like Horns.

You suck. Okay. It's the first movie in a long

time I shut off before I finished. Oh, you didn't

even finish it! No, I mean, I got close enough.

I mean, this is how bad it was. There literally

was probably five minutes left, and I was like,

I don't even care. He turns into a big old demon.

Yeah, I saw that start to happen, and that's

when I shut it off. Whatever, dude. Whatever.

Nate, what else have you been watching over the

last week or two? Geez, over the week, I watched

three movies. Nothing in theaters, because whatever,

I'm poor. No, literally, there was literally

nothing to watch in theaters. OK, good. So you're

okay. But I watched The Mummy with Brendan Fraser

and Mirror Mask. Oh, good movie. Yeah, it was

pretty good. And Punch Drunk Love I watched.

Who did I... I think the guys at True Bromance

or something were just talking about Punch Drunk

Love on their last episode. Were they saying

how awesome it was? Because it was pretty awesome.

They were trying to figure out why everyone else

thinks it's awesome, I think, is what was going

on. Oh, well, whatever. I really liked it. How's

your week been going though? I'm good. I don't

know. I was going well. Definitely. Oh, it's

so it's so much better Excellent Did Dan how

about you? What what have you been watching this

week if anything? Uh, not a great deal I did

do a thing called the best picture showcase over

the last two weekends where EMC does it works

they play all the best picture nominees over

two days and The last weekend was the second

day where I saw Bert boyhood the imitation game

Theory of everything and I missed the fourth

film because we ended up getting this massive

snowstorm for no apparent reason it was like

one of those things where it's like we're getting

three inches of snow and Suddenly it became a

foot of snow. So they actually closed the movie

theater, but was weird though Is that they closed

the movie theater, but they kept the best picture

showcase going So we're the only people in the

entire theater. So it was really creepy It was

just like it was really odd because there was

like no sound when you walked out was really

quiet And it was next to this mall that's been

long abandoned. It looks like the mall from Dawn

of the Dead. Yeah, from Dawn of the Dead. So

it was a little weird. So I missed the last one,

which would be American Sniper, which I saw already.

But it was just getting kind of bad as we left.

So did the snow keep the annoying people away?

No, that's impossible. There are some people

that were... Very very loud and maybe very opinionated

and wrong on things but uh, you know, it comes

with the territory I'm used to it when I saw

it last year, you know, I loved her and like

everyone else didn't like it So I had to deal

with people like, you know Basically trying to

understand why I got nominated and all that stuff

So it's I'm used to it people must be much louder

and outgoing when it's time for that showcase

because usually I don't get a bunch of reaction

from the moviegoers like when I'm in the theater

I don't get a bunch of of reaction or I don't

hear a bunch of comments Are they just more vocal

that time around if you just have more time in

between movies, too So you have like a good 15

20 minutes where it's just so you know What else

you're gonna talk about besides the thing but

the but the women from the last year weren't

there They were there but we sat like it was

three years in a row. We sat in front of these

people who were super super annoying and loved

every bad movie and disliked every good one.

Like hated Gravity, hated her, loved like Philomena,

which is not a bad movie but it's not fantastic.

But we sat in front of them like every year but

finally we didn't but then we sat in front of

this other guy who was just super annoying and

he was talking the one day about how her wasn't

a good movie because the director and the and

the writer just had two different ideas and they

couldn't get along and I wanted to tell them

that it was written and directed by the same

guy. So I don't know what he's talking about.

But I didn't. I'm like, I don't really care that

much. You're a better man than I am. But the

second day of the Best Picture Showcase was,

I think, a little weaker. Mostly because I'm

not a big fan of the... Either the intimidation

game or I don't dislike it. It's okay or Theory

of everything. I think a theory of everything

is probably to me the weakest about of the bunch

But did see boyhood again, which I ended up liking

even more the first time around Then the first

time around kind of knowing that the second part

the last 20 minutes tends to drag a little bit

But knowing that coming in it was a little bit

better. I was hoping to see American sniper again,

but uh, because I like it there's a lot of issues

with that movie, but And that's about it. That's

all pretty much I saw I saw like the first 30

minutes of citizen four, but I fell asleep so

Gotcha. So boyhood better on the second watch

birdman worse on the second watch It went down

a little bit for me. Like I had issues with it

I i'm like in the middle of this bird boyhood

or sorry birdman debate where you have those

who like best movie ever and like you hate it

and i'm like in the i'm like in the middle which

is kind of weird but the second watch there are

certain things that I didn't like the first time

around that even That even bothered me more re

-watching it. So yeah, I went down from a 4 to

a 3 .5 for me. Gotcha. Whiplash ended up going

up. That movie's freaking... If I can recommend

anything, it just came out on DVD or Blu -ray.

I love that movie. That is sitting on the table

waiting for me to watch it in the next day or

two. But yeah, we went to Redbox. I don't know

when it was. Last night we went to Redbox and

the plan was to go pick up Big Hero 6 and Whiplash

since that was the first time they were available.

Apparently I was not fast enough, even though

we were getting snow, to get there to get a copy

of Big Hero 6. Because I stopped at two different

red boxes and there was not a copy of Big Hero

6. What is the best animated movie of the year?

Apparently, according to the Oscars. So that

apparently caused a great deal of excitement

for everybody to go out and get that. So instead

we got The Book of Life, a different animated

film. So we checked that out, just finished that

yesterday. and uh... we'll have to get to the

hero six sometime uh... later i guess so i can

see the best animated film of of twenty fourteen

outside of that the only other movie i saw this

week was nightcrawler so i've almost completed

getting through all the movies that i've missed

i still have to get to the Selma uh... whiplash

and uh... most violent year for sure i know those

are at the top of a lot of people's list but

uh... nightcrawler was a was a real good movie

i enjoyed it uh... Jake Gyllenhaal is as advertised.

Like everybody said, that's easily one of the

best performances of the year. Not quite sure

how he did not get a nomination. And it was entertaining

throughout the whole thing. I don't know if it

wowed me as much as it wowed some people, but

still a real good movie. I think if I was tabulating

my movies again, it would probably be in the

top 10. I'm not sure where, but it wouldn't be

like top one or two, but it would definitely

be in the top 10 for me. So I didn't hate it

like Twitter was trying to make me sound last

night First time watchers and DJ Valentine were

giving me a hard time. I did not hate the film

It was a good film just not my favorite film

of the year still haven't seen that All right,

so we're gonna take a quick look at the box office

Which there's not much to see like I was telling

Nate you didn't miss much I mean we I actually

had an opportunity where I could have gone to

the theater this week and I looked at both theaters

near me and I couldn't find an excuse out of

the films being shown that I haven't seen to

go see anything. It just, unless I wanted to

see Fifty Shades of Grey, which I did not, so

I went without going to the theater, which is

weird for me, but looking at the weekend from

last weekend, kind of setting up for this weekend,

last weekend Fifty Shades of Grey reigned supreme

again, brought in 22 million, which made it hold

onto the one spot, Kingsman The Secret Service

still at number two, SpongeBob movie still at

number three, the top three did not change at

all, and newcomers McFarland USA took fourth.

and the Duff, which is just a weird title. Took

the fifth spot. American Sniper just holding

on at number six and good God, American Sniper

brought in another 10 million. It literally is

like less than 20 million away from becoming

the highest grossing film of 2014. So, I mean,

it's only got two more films to beat Guardians

and Hunger Games, and it's like 10 to 15 million

away from them. When we were talking about, I

remember having a conversation earlier in the

year about, like, what's gonna be the biggest.

Did any of us say American Sniper? Last year,

no. And, you know, I don't think anybody even

knew it was a film that was gonna be made. So

it's just one of those ones that kind of snuck

in. It was kind of like the year before, nobody

would have picked the Lego movie to be... be

that big, or not the year before, but there's

always that movie that comes in like Frozen or

Lego movie that you don't know about and all

of a sudden it's doing great. But yeah, American

Sniper, just please take that out of theater

so it doesn't take the first spot. But I mean,

I have nothing. I mean, I do have some things

against that film. All I know about that movie

is there's a hilarious scene where he holds a

fake baby. It is hilarious. And it's like really

fake. It's like the best part about that is we

were looking for it. Amanda and I were waiting

to see it because we knew we'd heard at that

point. Since we were late to the game, we had

heard it and we were looking for it, looking

for it, looking for it. We're like, is that the

scene with the fake baby? Is that the scene with

the fake baby? And then all of a sudden we saw

it and we're like, oh, that's the scene with

the fake baby. It's so easy. It was very easy.

I'm not going to get into that film because that

would bring a whole other debate on people's

ability to change historic events for the story

and if that makes it okay or not okay. I have

major problems with the things that were changed.

Overall, if it was just a film that wasn't based

on real events it would be a great film. I don't

get that. I don't think that matters. I think

it matters when it's not necessary in certain

things. Yeah, I mean what I mean like if it's

added because it adds a Side to a character that

we wouldn't get normally or it adds like a different

plot on one And I think some of the stuff that's

that's changed for this story works fine, and

I don't have a big deal with it but the other

issue like and I don't want to spoil anything

but like The stuff that is like the very first

scene whether it happened or not doesn't affect

me. I don't care Like that doesn't bother me

as far as the story goes, but when it's a main

underlying plot of the entire story, then to

me it's a little bit more problematic. But like

I said, if you can take this away and just say,

forget it's based on a true story and just watch

it for the story, then it's a great film. I wouldn't

say it's a great film, but I don't know. To me

it's... I don't understand the idea. We'll probably

get to this later why you would... I think a

director or filmmaker should have the right to

make whatever movie they want to. So what if

it's based on a true story to me doesn't matter

the and if you limit them and say well You have

to do it this way because that's the way it was

done. Yeah, I I question that a great deal My

issue with it is just the changes they did were

kind of ridiculously stupid Right, that's like

if it's like if it's like a legit change and

it doesn't like my problem is as a history major

I've been way too overexposed to over time how

people warp what actually has happened and hasn't

happened And I don't like anything being out

there that's going to service a misconception

about how something happened. Now, this isn't

that major. We're not talking about someone like

disbelieving that the Holocaust happened here

or something ridiculous or something like that.

So it's not as big a deal. But when it's something

more major like that, they change, that people

can then go on believing that that's how it actually

happened in a different situation, a different

story. That's when I have more of a problem with

it. But like I said, it's more for me on this

one is Why you know there wasn't to me as good

of a reason for why they changed it like you

said it was more of a ridiculous change Yeah,

when it feels fake, and it is fake. That's not

good. Not a good thing right um But 50 shades

of gray also took over the top spot for the year

right now It's total is 129 million which puts

it just barely above spongebob which who knew

was spongebob is gonna make so much money Like

I don't know that didn't have any fanfare coming

out like and it's also it's such an old franchise

that like Think that's why people just associated

it to like almost like a direct -to -dvd. Oh,

that's just based on a cartoon, but I mean the

first one didn't do very well Yeah But definitely

did well and Kingsman hopefully with another

week or two will finally be past its budget because

it definitely deserves to make more than its

budget Should be about a week and a half before

it passes that so that'll be good for the people

that have Kingsman people in our draft And our

league because we'll finally not be losing points

on them I don't know why I say we, because I

don't have anybody in that film. But you're losing

points. And then looking at next week, Dan, do

you think Focus has any chance of knocking 50

Shades of Grey out of the top spot? Man, there

is a choice to make. Focus or 50 Shades of Grey?

I don't know. Well, 50 Shades of Grey, looking

at how much it dropped, I can only see it dropping

further, so maybe potential. I just don't know

if there's a lot of good... I don't know anyone

who's like I can't wait to see focus so Or if

maybe even if everybody hates Fifty Shades of

Grey and didn't go didn't have anything to go

see this week Maybe it'll just be like oh finally

a film that's worth checking out for some people

I don't know, but yeah, Fifty Shades of Grey

drops 74 % so hopefully that's a sign I mean,

that's what happens when a movie is terrible

if anything maybe Kingsman would know with since

that has positive word of mouth maybe that could

like maintain and Everything else would fall

so that could take it, but I'd just be all for

that That would be all for Kingsman taking the

top spot. That would be great. But yeah focus

Is it just because it's Will Smith or is it the

trailers and the plot? I just it doesn't I like

Will Smith. I I just looks I don't know It just

looks like we've seen this movie so many times

before and I don't know It just doesn't look

all that appealing and especially considering

it when it's coming out and it's not really a

good sign But yeah, it just doesn't look that

interesting. I feel bad because Will Smith used

to be like, you have to go see whatever he's

in, but lately he's just been doing kind of garbage

work. Yeah. And last thing that I'll say about

The Box Office before we move on is if you would

have asked me last week, I would not have been

able to predict that Hot Tub Time Machine 2 would

actually lose to both McFarland USA and The Duff.

So brought in about half as much as what those

movies made. Luckily it's a comedy, so there's

not much budget there, but not a good opening

for Hot Tub Time Machine 2. It's first week and

it comes in at number seven. I don't know, maybe

I'll watch it someday when it's free. Going into

the news, we're going to change things a little

bit from what we used to do. You're probably

used to us going through casting calls and delays

and sequel news and trailers and all that. Instead,

we're each coming with our own news segments.

So we each have a couple stories that we're going

to touch on, and we'll kind of just have open

discussions about that, go around the table one

at a time, and we'll see how that goes. So let's

start with Dan. What's your first news story

you want to bring up? Well, I can my first news

story is a reference when I was saying earlier

about like changing things because I know this

has caused a lot of Controversy because I you

know news went out you guys talked about it last

week. I believe with Blomkamp taking over the

reigns of alien and doing a film and people are

kind of asking well will it have Ripley in it

will circle and you return and do a role like

how's that gonna work because if you know anything

about the alien franchise that Especially if

you You know look at what happened to her character

might be kind of difficult Well, it came out

recently that they're gonna kind of forget that

alien 3 and resurrection happened and just kind

of pick up after alien 2 and take it from there

and it appears so I know that has caused a lot

of controversy from which is weird because Usually

all these alien 3 fans have come out of the woodwork

that didn't exist not that long ago about this

like the anger regarding it, but I mean, I don't

know like I'd rather them get away from Ripley

because I think there's a lot in that universe

they can kind of Go into but I'm not a I'm kind

of curious to see how it goes because I already

I was I hated how a lot of great characters and

aliens were killed and Basically with alien 3

for it from the beginning. So I was hoping that

they can kind of right those wrongs But uh, I

don't know. I don't know. I know you guys I know

Nate and Matt. I don't think you guys have seen

alien and aliens, correct? No, I haven't So now

you guys can just watch those two and then get

right ready for this one. You don't have to watch

three and four, so your homework is less. Sweet.

So that's good. I'm with you, Dan. I don't really

find a problem with this. And the reason I don't

find a problem with this is because in reading

the article, it sounds like Blomkamp has been

working and thinking about this particular idea

for a story for a long time. It seems like this

has been long in the works before he ever even

knew he was gonna be able to do anything He had

ideas for what he would do with this story. He

had you know He had jotted stuff down. He had

some written he had you know artwork and stuff

like that So I mean this isn't like he's just

coming into it and just like oh You know they

asked me to do a new alien movie, and I didn't

like three and four So we're just gonna do whatever

this is like a fan of the franchise This is someone

who's put a lot of thought into it, and I respect

his other work that he's done so It's kind of

one for me where I'm just going to trust the

person in charge here and see what he does with

it. Yeah, I mean, I like Alien 3. I don't think

it's as strong as Alien or Aliens, but it's kind

of a weird little movie. So I don't know. Like

I said, I like the world of Aliens and kind of

why I like Prometheus because of just how they

kind of took it in a little bit of a different

direction. So I wouldn't be against if he left

it completely. But knowing this is a story he's

wanted to tell for a while. Yeah, that can go

two different directions. We've seen directors

who have had stories and they've wanted to tell

for years and then, you know, it ended up not

being all that great. But I trust Blomkamp. I

like pretty much everything he's done. I know

a lot of people don't like Elysium and I didn't

love it, but I thought it was pretty solid. So

I'm excited to see what he does with the franchise.

And for the record, Dan and I both say good things

about Prometheus and for the most part, Elysium.

So that's a sign of years prior to 2014. But

yeah, I'm fine with this and I'd be interested

to see especially Matt and Nate if you guys go

back in and watch alien and aliens Whether you

see this film before you see aliens 3 or whether

you see it I'd be interested to see your guys

take on on If you think that's something that's

okay, or so especially if you don't see aliens

3 until after this new one That would be interesting

But Nate what do you got next for your first

news story? They revealed the Aquaman's costume

in a nice little poster on Twitter Yeah, that

definitely caught a lot of people's attention

the the image of Jason Momoa dressed up like

Aquaman Nate What did you think about it? You're

the artist of the group? I like it. I mean, it's

it's totally out of left field that he's just

like super I mean and again, I Don't like how

like gray it is And how sad he looks, I don't

know. DC? It's DC! It's gotta be sad and mopey.

But I mean, it's a cool... It really looks like

a 90s version. It looks like Aquaman has been

infected by... Shoot, Venom, from the Spider

-Man. The old Aquaman? Yeah. I don't know. I

mean, a lot of people had issues because they

were like, oh, you're casting Jason Momoa in

this. What are you going to do? Dye his hair

blonde? This, that, and the other. It seems like

they're going for more of a silver -gray look,

unless that's just for the purposes of that picture,

because everything is gray. But I think what

they did is they probably did a good job of still

making him look familiar enough to people that

are going to like Game of Thrones or this, that,

and the other to see him as... someone that's

not gonna be made fun of. I mean, I think that's

the thing I get from it. It doesn't look like

a superhero character that's gonna be the butt

of jokes, but... I like his, like, tattoo scales,

though. That's kind of cool, isn't it? Um, Amy

brought up a pretty good point. Well, she brought

up two points, one that's solid and one that

I don't know if I agree with. But the first one

is that, like, why does he have tattoo scales

on one arm and then identical -looking real scales

on the other arm? It's like, he's got, like...

Metal scales on one of his arms and then the

arm is like we don't have as much metal because

we wanted to see so we're just gonna paint them

on Yeah, it's very Character designing it's like

it's like a guy with you know a blank canvas

was just like Let's put armor here and then do

this there which is 90s comic book to the max.

Oh, yeah It's also very Japanese anime Yeah,

I could see that. The other point she had that,

I mean, I'm not going to back it as strongly,

is that if they're going to give him a tattoo,

why don't they give him tattoos similar to what

the Pacific Islanders have or other people that

spend a lot of time in the ocean so that he has

that fitting in element? Kind of if you look

at the rock, the arm that he has that doesn't

have the... smell what you cookin' logo on it.

His other arm is like a classic Pacific Islander

tattoo, and if they'd done that instead of the

scales, I mean, I don't know, I guess I kind

of agree with it. It'd have made more sense and

looked better and not been like, wait, where

does the clothes end and the body begins? Overall,

Matt, did you like it or dislike the image? So,

I think I've gone on the record a million times

saying I wanted to be close to the source material.

Why are you adapting something if you're not

gonna be close to the source material? Knowing

that they don't care It's not terrible. It's

not the worst thing ever and I liked Man of Steel

more than Nate did so I'll probably enjoy Donna

Justice League 3 or whatever more than he does

I don't know. I think the image looked pretty

badass. So I'm fine with it. What about you Dan?

Yeah, it looks fine. I mean it Aquaman's a tough

sell, you know, it's hard to do that character.

I mean I think I get the casting of Jason Momoa.

If you're going to cast him, I'm glad they don't

try to change the way he looks and try to kind

of go along that route. But I do think the idea

of Getting more, you know tribal like tattoos

would probably make more sense because his arm

kind of looks like I don't know like a checkerboard

I don't even know what they're going there for

But uh, if this wasn't if this movie was made

in the 90s. Jason Momoa would be like all of

a sudden like a crew cut blonde hair Yeah, frost

tipped all that His trident looks pretty badass.

So we got that going for him. Um, yeah, I mean

it looks fine. I mean I Actually, I just started

reading like the new 52 Aquaman, which actually

is quite good. So so good Yeah, and so I think

there's a way to make Aquaman 2 an interesting

character, so I hope they take advantage of that,

but I don't know, it looks fine to me. I'm not

a huge Aquaman fan, so I don't really care what

he looks like as long as he looks like he stays

within the universe of the world that you've

created, and it seems like that's the case for

the most part. He does look really sad, like

that's the look of the DC, you know, it's dark,

you know, with the black shading and you know

no one smiles anymore but you know that's the

way they go i guess um i got a i heard an interesting

i can't remember whether it was heard or read

but it was an interesting article about um how

everyone thinks aquaman's a joke and they talked

about how it stemmed from the original uh super

friends tv show where everyone on the Super's

Friends TV show was kind of like really dumb

and it was like really silly, stupid stuff. But

like everyone since then has gotten their own

individual stuff and gotten bigger and Aquaman

never got that treatment. So everyone just thinks

of him as this like really dopey character from

the 60s. Nothing's broken the mold yet. Yeah,

and like they didn't you know do the grim and

gritty Aquaman like they did Batman or you know

Superman has been in the light Constantly so

everyone just looks back to this really dopey

cartoon and like that's what Aquaman is and if

they do more like The new 52 Aquaman like they

could really do that character service Well what

everybody needs to do that that thinks that is

play the injustice game Aquaman is a badass in

that game He's the best character to play, and

I don't play very many of those types of video

games, but he just kicks everyone's ass with

the Trident, so... And then like unleash a shark

on you. Right, but also the Trident can hit you

from like across the screen, so you don't really

even have to get close to people, you're just

like ta -ta -ta. But anyways, that's my video

game expertise coming to play. Matt, what is

your first news item? My first news item is from

the age of Ultron... Again since I said earlier

I'm a big fan or big proponent of if you're adapting

a source material try to be as close to the source

material as possible When I heard a couple of

months ago that they weren't going to have Hank

Pym be the inventor of Ultron I like honestly

it half ruined the movie for me in my mind already

Like I you know I I don't get the idea of being

like hey We're just like this thing only we're

not and we're gonna be more popular than that

thing like And so like, oh, I've been a fan for

years and now I'm just getting stepped on. Like,

that's what the whole Transformers franchise

has been. And it's, you know, I don't want it

to happen too much in the Marvel movie universe

because they've been pretty good about a lot

of things. So this article came out and it was

an actual interview with Joss Whedon and he's

got some pretty good points about how, you know,

a character like Hank Pym, he's bigger than just,

you know, being a side character in a movie like

this. and he didn't want to take away from was

it Edgar Winter? Edgar Wright. He didn't want

to take away from that Ant -Man movie coming

up and just kind of usurp the character. You

know, the direct quote was I also thought it

was a bridge too far. I'll try and need to be

the brainchild of the Avengers in the world of

the Avengers and the MCU. Tony Stark is that

guy. He talks about not, you know, it's like

we got this brain of Tony Stark. We got this

brain of Bruce Banner. And it's like, do we really

need to bring in Hank Pym? And be like, so all

those brainy characters you know, we're throwing

those guys out to bring in a new villain real

quick for just one movie. And so I get in the

universe of the MCU, it's probably a good idea

to not keep them around, or bring him in rather.

Mean maybe if they had had him, you know Just

do it in relation with Tony Stark having be a

Stark employee or something and then get a bigger

picture in the next movie I think I would have

liked that more but I can see why and Even like

maybe even a movie exec might have said something

and that they're just you know Not bringing that

out. Like you don't don't bother with that See,

I think from a timing standpoint it wouldn't

would have it would have made sense to for people

to see him appear there because obviously then

you know a few months later you're gonna actually

have I think it's a few months after that the

actual Ant -Man comes out like two months really

close but but yeah but it's so close that I don't

think it matters that much and I think based

on his reasoning it makes sense to me so I'm

okay with it I don't really mind based on you

know like I said do we need three super scientists

in the group I don't necessarily think we do

Dan what do you think um yeah I'm fine with it

I Like I think it's a good point if you try to

it's gonna seem rather Conspicuous if you bring

a character in and like also that character is

responsible for the villain of your movie And

plus since we know Tony Stark a little bit more

It'll You know, you kind of there's more of an

impact there and knowing that like he's the one

who created this character plus it can lead into

Civil war a little bit like, you know his that

could kind of explain his change of character

and why he might be on opposite sides of Captain

America depending on what happens. So I do think

there's a lot of benefits and I'm not a person

who minds if things are altered or changed as

long as you can do them and make it effective

and there's a reasoning for it not just being

lazy and to me since Ant -Man hasn't been established

yet and you're still kind of developing him some,

well I guess technically based upon MCU Ant -Man

was like older because you have Hank Pym who

was in the 60s or what have you but uh, yeah,

I don't know I don't really care that much. It's

fine with me. This is something that if DC was

doing it though, he would definitely be appearing

Yeah, get him in there push push it push it.

No, I don't know. I'm the least intelligent comic

book person amongst the people here on the record

but but since since when does changing storylines

or Backstories and comic books have any bearing

on anything? Don't they do that like all the

time? You usually just reinvent their universe

like every three years usually need a special

thing like a days of future past to do that or

there's an explanation Unless you're Marvel,

I guess ultimately Marvel doesn't care about

the continuity They care about the the book you're

reading being good and being in in line with

itself So like if you see Captain America and

in one book, he's on the moon and in one book

He's you know in space and one book he's on earth

and one book. He's black doesn't matter if it's

a good book That's kind of their point. And as

an old DC guy that bothers me, it's like, no,

I want to be able to follow this character through

everything. And it's the same character. But

you know what? I mean, if the story's good, why

should it matter? Nate, any thoughts? I'm pretty

much with Dan on the whole changes. I don't care

if they change it as long as the story's good.

That's about it. Yeah, I don't want to have anything.

Cool. My first news item is a possible casting

for a young Han Solo in one of the Star Wars

spinoffs and the name getting thrown around of

course is Taron Edgerton who we just recently

saw in Kingsman the Secret Service. I'll let

you guys talk first, but Dan, do you think he

makes a fit for a young Han Solo? Speaking of

someone who hasn't seen Kingsman, sure, why not?

Have you seen him in anything else? What else

has he been in? I don't even know. I'm trying

to remember now, and I can't even put it together.

He's been in some other stuff. He seems good.

I could see him or even Ty Sheridan, who's been

in Mud and a few other things, but yeah. Also

in the article, it was talking about possibility

that it was going to show, obviously it's the

young Han Solo, young exploits of it or whatever,

but they talked about the possibility of the

movie showing how he came into possession of

the Millennium Falcon. and how his relationship

began with Jabba the Hutt. I mean, I don't know.

Obviously, I think those are two easy things

that you would focus on for people that don't

know the books and whatnot. I'd love to see them

in high school together. That'd be awesome. Oh,

man. Matt, you're a big Star Wars fan. What do

you think? Should that be the focus on the Han

Solo film? Should what? The high school? No,

no, no. Well, yes, it should it should it be

him and job of the hut in high school, you know

hanging out For everyone who's a classic Dragon

Ball Z fan and then watched Dragon Ball Z evolution

and thought it was like to take a character who

didn't know how to read or do math in the in

the original source material and Bring him to

a movie where he's in high school. You know that

it's a great idea and it's box office gold No,

it's a terrible idea of that. No, I'd actually

probably want to see that. I don't know about

Taron Edgerton. He didn't seem like Han Solo

is supposed to be like uh and this is a weird

way to put it but he's supposed to be like Lando

with less smooth um and I think if Kingsman is

the only source I've seen for Edgerton but or

Eggerton it's a weird name um he's less smooth

to too much of a degree in my mind like he needs

to be uh charming still and uh I don't know Eggsy

did not do it for me So hopefully, you know,

he shows himself more before the movie comes

out or before it gets cast But yeah, I don't

know. It's not the worst choice Yeah, I mean,

I think there's potential there is either is

I don't know if he's the absolute best choice

There's probably someone out there that would

as always there's probably somebody out there

that would be a better choice But I don't have

any problems with it I'm not gonna go up in arms

and be like why did you cast Hayden Christensen

as this character or something like that? You

know, it's not gonna be that awful. So I'd give

him a shot at it. Nate, I know you didn't see

Kingsman so you probably don't have much to...

I have no idea who this kid is. Alright. Clean

slate. He was only in, like, a TV show. Yeah.

Yeah, I looked up his eye and it was like, nope,

nope, nope. I mean, I like the idea of going

up to, you know, using someone that's not as

well known. Oh, yeah, totally. I mean, obviously

he's going to be known for Kingsman for people

that have seen it and stuff like that, but I

still think it's better than going with somebody

that's too established because that character...

Deserve somebody that we somewhat have a clean

slate with it's kind of like Freaking Han Solo

Thank you I'm bad at thinking sometimes but like

Harrison Ford was like in he was well known for

like One or two movies at the time, right? Am

I wrong on that? So he was in American Graffiti.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so Actually, I don't have designed

evil actually that's a lot but if he was only

in like American Graffiti like and that was like

it then that might be the perfect one because

he had like a weird silly accent Matt and Then

did a great Han Solo And this was like history

because what's his name edgerton in that in that

movie had such like a cockney dirty accent it

was like oh that brings us back to the panel

for their second go -around dan what do you got

as your second news story my second news story

is a rather quick one and it's just that um sundance

like the big movie that was well i guess big

movies kind of uh not the right way to describe

movies from Sundance, but the movie that was

the most, I guess, award -worthy, the one that

had the biggest buzz was me and Earl in The Dying

Girl, which got its release date for this past

summer. And the reason I bring that up is because

the one that was really renowned last year was

Whiplash, which obviously got a Best Picture

nomination and also... the year before that Fruitvale

station, which didn't get a Best Picture nomination,

but did get a lot of critical awards and Spirit

Awards. So it so and both of those made my top

10 for the year. So that's why I'm excited because

there have been a pretty good pedigree for those

strong films that are out of Sundance. So it's

cool that it's actually going to be coming out

wide release in the summertime. So which is usually

the season of the big films. But it's nice to

see that there'll be some small stuff out there

as well. My resolution for this year is to have

seen this before the end of the year. So because

I remember Fruitvale station I was rushing to

see that at the end of 2013 and Obviously, I'm

just getting now ready to see whiplash. So I'm

gonna try to not sleep as long on the film here

So I'm with you. I want to see that one. Hopefully

this summer and if not early fall, so I Think

that's exciting as well. That brings us back

to day. I'm sorry not Dan again. You already

went but Nate What's your second story? Yeah,

my second is an article about the Shazam movie.

And it's not very a particularly interesting

article. It's just an article about the Shazam

movie because I love Shazam. So, hey, they're

talking about it and that's cool. But yeah. We

already brought up The Rock. Yeah, and I love

The Rock. But, you know, I've been I've been

waiting for a Shazam movie for like nine years.

So like They're basically just saying that the

production is going well and that it's gonna

be coming out probably sooner than 2019 which

I don't care. It's a Shazam movie. I'm excited

about it Because a boy is gonna go Shazam and

then turn into Captain Marvel and then fight

Black Adam He's gonna be turning to Shazam. Yeah,

but whatever I don't care. It's gonna be cool

I'm excited about it. I Enjoy that you're excited

about this the the interest the most bizarre

part of this article is that it's talking about

Productions going well this that and the other

and nobody's been cast What part of production

is going to well that they greenlit it and that

they got the rock You know Drawings on a piece

of paper that has like the rock head pasted onto

it and it's like this is a big arrow with a black

atom and then another drawing with a question

mark guy on it that says like he's a good guy

and then they then they take the two pictures

and they they slap them together and it's like

this is our movie oh lord um I think that's exactly

what that article is based on, actually. But

yeah, I guess it's not gonna be 2019, so good

for them and good for you. I want more. I want

a Shazam news article at least once a month just

to get you excited. Matt, what do you got as

your second news item? To just continue hammering

home that Warner Brothers is making movies, and

they involve superheroes, I brought in an article

about Wonder Woman, which... You know, they've

been talking about it, but apparently it hadn't

had a solo film announced officially until just

recently. And that's got all of the names. The

director will be Michelle McLaren. Gail Godot

being Wonder Woman. Since she's in the Justice

League one, it would make sense. You're gonna

switch midstream. It wouldn't surprise me. Yeah,

see? Like it works for Marvel. And then they

had the writer, too. But they're talking about

the release somewhere in the area of summer 2017.

I don't know. It's interesting, and I'm excited,

kind of. There's been, in the last few years,

a push for leading ladies that are strong and

good role models and whatever, and I hope with

that in mind they make a movie that's entertaining.

that has a female lead lady and not a movie that's

just like, hey, women are awesome because we

said and just like not prove it, I guess. But

they've got me in, so hopefully it's good. We

hear about Marvel stuff that's coming in like

17 years from now and everyone seems like they're

still excited about that. because it seems like

we've already, we already know that Marvel does

good things, but it's like every time that the

DC has a rumor about a movie coming out in like

six years, I think there's a skepticism that's

like, are they gonna be even allowed to make

those movies, are they gonna be like giving up

on the movie scene by then? Seriously, like,

I mean, how many times did they throw out the

Justice League script before pushing it back

seven years? So, I don't know, I have to see

a good DC... team -up film or or grounds for

that before I get excited about anything that's

coming seven four, five, six, seven years from

now. That said, if this article is correct and

their plan is to do a trilogy with the first

one being in the 20s, the second one being World

War II era, and then the third one being present

day, that sounds awesome. We all like the Captain

America movie, right? Yeah. So if they do something

similar to that and give us even more backstory,

that's a good idea. Yeah, I'm not against it.

I just can't get excited yet because I just want

to not have Too many of my hopes dashed right

away when we see the first or the next DC film

that is dark and dreary and depressing Which

leads me to the last news story, which we're

just hammering home superhero stuff today guys

So if you're not a superhero fan, I apologize

for the last half hour I will put timestamps

in the episode so you can skip ahead. But my

last article was coming out of uh... james gunn

who is defending comic book movies and films

etc and uh... basically what happened is uh...

dan gilroy who was uh... the guy behind nightcrawler

uh... unit i don't know we're probably bonus

out of course he just makes a a small common

in his acceptance speech at the spirit awards

that uh... basically says he's happy that they

survived the tsunami of superhero films and that

uh... films that uh... have uh... spirit are

still allowed to be seen and be noticed and and

you know receive awards and stuff like that for.

That's a very bad synopsis of that. And James

Gunn just basically came out to defend it, and

basically his point was that he was bothered

by the fact that Gilroy was basically alluding

to the fact that people that make superhero films

aren't interested in telling a good story, this,

that, and the other, regardless of what... their

popularity is or how much money they make. This

is a quote. What bothers me slightly is that

many people assume because you make big films

that you put less love, care, and thought into

them than people do who make independent films

or who make what are considered more serious

Hollywood films. I've made B -movies, independent

films, children's films, horror films, gigantic

spectacles. He says, yes, there is people that

are just in it to make a buck, but there's quite

a few people that are in there to try to tell

a good story. Last quote here. If you think people

who make superhero movies are dumb, come out

and say we're dumb, but if you as an independent

filmmaker or a serious filmmaker think you put

more love into your characters than the Russo

brothers do Captain America, or Joss Whedon does

the Hulk, or I do a talking raccoon, you are

simply mistaken. Dan, what's your reaction to

this article? I think James Gunn is misunderstanding

what Dan Gehrler was saying, because looking

at his speech, it was more so, not that... those

who make superhero films care less about what

they do, but just the fact that that's all Hollywood

is doing at the moment, but they're so focused

on doing franchises and something that's tied

to something else that they're getting away from

original ideas. And that, to me, is more what

he was saying, not necessarily that, hey, those

people who make superhero films aren't caring

about what they do and that our movies are better

than theirs, but more so that... There's movies

out there that are original and they don't have

to be gigantic spectacles. They can be small

and more independent or more character based,

not based upon something else. That's what I

took from it. I think James Gunn is truthful

in what he's saying that just because you're

making a superhero film doesn't necessarily mean

that you're a bad filmmaker or that you don't

care about what you're doing, but I feel like

they're arguing two different points. I agree

with you 100%. I would make the argument that

they're both right. in what they were saying

and what they were intending. I think what Gilroy

might have, why he was misunderstood by Gunn

was that last part. I don't think it was just

overcoming a tsunami of superhero films to be

noticed or that people still saw it and still

appreciated it. I think that would have been

fine. I think for some reason he took that last

part and maybe misconstrued it where he was saying,

kind of alluding to the essence of... What those

awards are for or you know kind of the spirit

of a movie or the or you know something to really

chew on I don't know if he was like maybe taking

that last part and Misconstruing it, but I agree

with you. I think both people are actually right

with what they were saying I think like you said

I think he just kind of understood misunderstood

what Gilleroy was saying Matt. What do you think

of that article? I like to just take the quote

of I do a talking raccoon out of context I mean,

I don't know. I don't know if I could care so

much less about what some dude says on a stage.

He's like, hey, I got a movie. I get the idea

that it does kind of feel like a tsunami of superhero

movies. And I don't know. I haven't been in a

situation where it's like I could be a sellout.

So I can't really comment on whether or not going

for the big movie cheapens your art. Yeah, I

don't think I don't think I don't think it does

necessarily I mean like you said I think There

is people out there that are probably just getting

attached to stuff for money But there's probably

plenty of people that take their job serious

and want to produce the best type of film that

they're gonna do And then there's Michael Bay,

so I mean I don't know there's oh Hate mail directed

to optimist solo tweet it out I mean, pain and

gain was pretty good, but you know. Bad Boys

2 was funny. Yeah. I didn't say that. I didn't

say anything about Michael Bay. But yeah, I don't

know. Like I said, I think they're arguing two

different things. I found it interesting just

because you don't usually see these people, you

know, flashing out against each other, so I found

it somewhat interesting just to read. But I like

Guardians of the Galaxy, and I like what James

Gunn's doing, so keep doing it. And I like Nightcrawler,

so Gilderoy, keep doing what you're doing. Let's

all just get along because I mean Gilroy too.

He did the he was part of the Bourne franchise

So it's not like he has not done Like his own

like blockbusters previously, so I don't necessarily

you know, so I don't think he was good That's

why I think he was just being misunderstood with

what he said Alright, so that's new segment for

today. We did have some trailers that came out

That'll be posted in the episode link So if you

want to go to the the show page on geek cast

radio comm there will be links to all these trailers

we had Trailers for Superfast, Cymbeline, Love

and Mercy, A Little Chaos, The Riot Club, Growing

Up and Other Lies, The Cobbler starring Adam

Sandler. I just throw that out there so people

don't watch that one. Kill me three times. I'm

just kidding. No, no, no. That one is like...

It kind of looks interesting. Even if it is still

kind of like a kiddie movie, but... I don't...

Whatever. I mean, it looks better than like 90

% of the movies he's been putting out lately.

It's better than super fast. I can say that much.

Yeah, definitely. Infinitely polar bear. That's

got to be one of the weirdest names for a movie

that I've ever seen, but it actually looks somewhat

intriguing. And welcome to me. We're not going

to get into any of those. Did you guys watch

them though? Yeah. I watched a couple of them.

Not the last like three, but yeah. Mean there's

some interesting stuff. They're obviously not

a bunch of big ones I think the assembling was

getting a few headlines obviously the coplar

is Adam Sandler But they all have little bits

and pieces that are interesting, but I'm gonna

agree with Dan that super fast would not be one

of them The spoof of the fast and furious franchise

if you're wondering what that is made by the

those people asylum You know, the epic movie,

scary movie, epic movie. I don't know. I stopped

watching those films a long time ago. You stopped

watching them way after everyone else did. Cause

I stopped at zero. I stopped at scary movie when

I was trying to watch that in a hotel room with

my sister and my mom and the first scene was

so inappropriate we had to shut it off. That

was a fun awkward moment when I was a teenager.

I think I did watch the first scary movie. I

watched the first two. Because the second one

had David cross in it and I was very big in a

mr. Show The show is big. Yeah, see music you

watch now when the chipmunks three David cross

has skated how much he hates those movies, but

it like buys him awesome things. Yeah anyway

Speaking of sales anyways, you can check out

all those trailers and let us know which ones

you're most interested in out of that group And

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with us it is time for the main attraction here

on weekend at the movies before we get to the

movie games we gotta do a little bit of justice

here by uh... recognizing that the oscars happened

uh... between our last record and this one dan

i know you watched the oscars as did i uh...

what was your biggest takeaway from that uh...

what did you think uh... Biggest surprise biggest

thing that made you happy biggest thing that

made you mad. Just kind of give us your general

thoughts Okay Well when bigger surprises not

like talking about rewards with the production

of the show was that I was finding interesting

is like Neil Patrick Harris was no wasn't awful

he was okay, but it was weird that like the best

parts of the Night where the musical performances

and the speeches which are usually like the most

boring parts But they're actually pretty good

speeches this year and a lot of great musical

performances like the Lego performance was which

was literally awesome, as they would say. And

I thought Selma's performance was really great.

And even Lady Gaga doing the sound of music was,

you know, I was like, wow, she can she can literally

sing. I did not expect that. So the show itself,

it's the Oscar. So to me, it was about what I

expected. They, you know, boring parts, some

funny parts. it you know patrick harris did i

think it's impossible to do that show and do

it really well no matter how funny someone is

something about it just like it sucks all the

funny out of you and you can only do you know

you can only do so well but uh they've tried

every type of person up there in the last 10

years i swear i mean i thought i like john stewart

when he did it i liked uh i actually really like

to jackman i think he was like the best one in

the last two years i thought I don't know, maybe

he's a big enough name, but I just think the

writers for that show are often pretty bad. I

think that's what kills it. But... Helen, I think,

was the one that had the best ratings in the

last five to ten years, which is interesting.

Yeah. And I think what hurt the ratings this

year was that there were no huge films. It was

mostly smart films. It's interesting, though,

that what's cool about it is that... Only one

film that won an award that was not an independent

film, and that was American Sniper. Everything

else was an independent film that won an award,

which is kind of crazy. I don't know, no huge

surprises award -wise. Big Hero 6 winning was...

It's not a huge surprise because like they have

a love affair with Disney and Pixar that's why

brave one a few years ago and didn't deserve

to and But um, yeah, so None of the actors pretty

much everything went expected. I was hoping boyhood

when he gets something it got Supporting actress.

I thought it at least deserved editing Considering

its production. I thought link later might have

a chance at director considering what he did,

but It kind of just went Birdman all the way.

The only one that really bothered me that Birdman

one was Best Screenplay, which I felt like is

the weakest part of Birdman, if anything. So

that I think I would have took it other places.

But I was happy to see Whiplash take away so

much because it was well deserved. Yeah, I agree.

I think as far as the record goes, since we brought

that up, I think we could have done without of

the briefcase. Oh, God. that was terrible and

it was brought up like seventeen times in the

punchline was not worth it my favorite thing

that you have to care is did the whole telecast

was number one bring attention to lego movie

not getting nominated before that song or right

after it and then going over to talk to david

oh yellow yellow yellow guy can see his name

uh... and right after he did that he's like see

they do like you know bring attention to the

fact that he didn't get nominated so i did enjoy

that they actually kind of acknowledge that uh...

but yet he was he was not as good as you expect

and i agree with you that the speeches were much

better than normal in the musical numbers were

awesome access uh... especially the summer one

uh... that was pretty darn uh... impressive As

far as the awards go, I think the biggest disappointment

for me would be, of course, since I've been a

champion of this movie forever, but Dawn of Planet

of the Apes not winning for effects. I just don't

get the Academy hate for motion capture. I don't

either that. I don't. Like, interestingly, your

special effects were fine. But really, like,

how how do you not look at what Dawn of the Planet

of the Apes did and be like, OK, they like the

facial expressions that they were able to pull

off is just. Phenomenal so I don't I don't understand

that whatsoever and especially when you look

at other movies that have won based on much less

in that category I mean there's if you were to

look back at the Oscar winners of visual effects

There is some terrible films that have won in

that category I think Harry and the Hendersons

won at one day for that come on now But Planet

of the Apes cannot and then of course I wasn't

necessarily I haven't seen Big Hero 6 So I can't

say if it deserves it or not, but that was definitely

a shock when they said that name We're all just

getting over the shock of Lego movie not being

nominated and then we just expect to hear You

know either one of the How to Train Your Dragon

or the Miyazaki movie Which I'm not going to

try to pronounce because I've never heard it

pronounced the same way twice So yeah, it was

kind of shocking there. I'm with you though I

agree that I would have given the link later

the director nod You know if Birdman had to win

awards I think it should have been other ones

outside of like what you said with the screen

adapter screenplay and with the director I think

those could have gone elsewhere But other than

that there wasn't wasn't a whole lot of different,

you know shocking things or anything like that

about it. No, it was a pretty Pretty much everything

went as expected you know it's it was a weird

year like it's such a it's when it comes to the

academy awards because there wasn't like the

v8 like academy academy like movies like the

oscar great movies would be like intimidation

game theory of everything and they didn't really

walk away with a huge amount but uh so you know

bourbon i don't you know bourbon is not a movie

that you would associate with the academy but

it's just They just love movies about movie making

or theater. They just that's why I argo one last

year They love that especially in they love movies

that are actor centric because the actors make

up the biggest branch of the academy so any movie

that so that tends to vote well, that's why I

crash one and You know, I I don't hate birdman

as much as you do like I mentioned I'm more in

the middle of it. I wouldn't have voted for it

I actually did like a list and letter box of

like all the best picture nominees from the last

from 2010 to 14 or whatever and it's like in

the middle for me But like I I was rooting for

boyhood or whiplash personally or grand Budapest

hotel when I was happy to see that win as much

Yeah, it won quite a few awards. That was awesome.

Yeah, did you do predictions this year? I didn't

do it this year. I just never got around to it.

So yeah Well, I can't ask you how you did that.

Yeah, I I did a few for a few websites to like

try to win stuff and I didn't win anything So

I guess I didn't do that. Well you'd you'd one

uh... at your best showcase thing so that was

your winning pretty much uh... alright well uh...

we are going to get into our movie games then

and just as a warm -up and before we get in the

way i'm gonna be the little uh... what do you

want to call it the masters of ceremonies here

the mc i won't be participating but i'll be uh...

leading the way as far as directing things uh...

it'll be dan against nate against And for those

of you that don't know, we do all kinds of different

things in movie games. They all have different

formats. Hopefully they're fun, but usually they're

stuff that we've never done before. So sometimes

it's experimentation. And as Dan, you know, when

you experiment with all your fun things and talking

in circles, sometimes it works and sometimes

it works better. Sometimes it falls flat in the

air. And then the podcast goes awkwardly long.

But we are gonna actually do something I'm gonna

tie it into what we are starting next week because

next week We're actually going to have a special

episode for weekend at the movies Dan and I were

I don't know if we've talked about this on air

and not before but Dan and I were Both talking

earlier last year that we had some ideas when

2014 was over because it's the halfway point

in the decade. So, you know, we've had the first

five years of whatever you call this decade.

It's so hard now that we're in the 2000s. I don't

know what you call the first two decades, the

2010s. It just sounds weird. But, you know, we're

halfway through. We've had 2010, 11, 12, 13,

and 14. So we can start making our best of the

half decade list. And, you know, it started with

one thing and now it's getting into some other

things. And we have different categories, different

genres that we're going to be looking at. So

we're going to be breaking down our top 10 superhero

films of the last five years, our top 10 drama

films, our top 10 comedies, et cetera. We have

a bunch of different genres that we're going

to get through. Then we're going to get to a

point where we do our actors and actresses, the

best ones of the half decade. And then we got

a two -part episode where we're going to break

down our top, I believe, 50 films of the last

five years. Well, next week marks our first venture

into that project, which we're going to be doing

intermittently throughout the rest of 2015. So

you'll probably hear one a month or something

like that for the rest of the year. And the first

one we're going to be doing next week will be

our top 10 science fiction and fantasy films

from the last five years. And with us on that

record will be Dan, myself, Mr. Matt Fridley.

And Hiro from the true bromance podcast. So as

we go through here, we're gonna be bringing on

some Some special guests for some of these episodes.

So you'll hear Nate in some of them. You'll hear

Matt You'll hear Dan you'll hear me and some

of them and then you hear a bunch of our friends

from the different movie Podcasts that you probably

all have heard us talk about here and there so

should be fun Dan are you looking forward to

it? Yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to it.

It's definitely rather hard to come up with the

list because I always feel like I'm forgetting

something or overlooking something and then you

think, okay, ten movies, that's a lot, but then

you think about the fact it's five years and

then there's a lot of space there that you don't

have or not a lot of space there and you end

up running out. So yeah, it should be fun. I

love making lists, probably more so than I should,

so I'm interested in seeing how it works out.

And yeah, for some genres, it'll be easier than

others. Some genres, it's much harder. And we'll

have a couple different formats. It won't be

the same format on every show. Sometimes we'll

be all with our own top 10. Sometimes it'll be

a collaborated top 10. So it should be fun. But

that starts next week with science fiction and

fantasy films. And in order to kind of set the

stage, since next week we'll be talking about

the last five years, I thought, why not, for

movie games, look at all the years before that?

So let's not totally leave out the past and the

history of science fiction and fantasy. Let's

get people thinking about what the best science

fiction and fantasy movies have been before we

get to our top ten of the last five years. So

what I've done is I've created two games that

are going to deal with science fiction and fantasy

films, but before that we got to warm up. So

my warm up round... to determine who goes first

in our first of two rounds. We're gonna have

a warm -up round and then we're gonna have two

rounds. Don't worry, you won't be here all night.

But the warm -up round, here's the title of the

game. Sean Bean, Dead or Alive. Okay, so I am

going to name a film or a TV show and you have

to tell me at the end of that film or TV show,

is he alive or is he dead? Spoiler alert. Spoiler

alert if I say something then you haven't seen

it Quickly mute it and jump ahead about two or

three minutes There we go, so whoever gets the

we're just gonna go around each one He's gonna

get a turn there is 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12

13 14 15 of them so you'll each have Five shots

to get it right or wrong. I might skip a couple

of stuff. We haven't heard on but let's start

with Matt national treasure the film national

treasure man does he end up alive or dead dead

inside or is that count like everyone who watched

it um you know I don't even remember if I've

seen this movie I know I've seen bits like this

some serious you know what I'm just gonna hedge

my bets and assume you're going crazy and I'm

gonna go alive He is alive captured facing probably

life in prison for attempted murder, but alive.

Thank you. You're all right there Um, let's go

to Nate. Yeah Percy Jackson and the Olympians

the lightning thief Was I mean, hmm I Don't remember

who he was in that one. I've seen the second

one more than the first I'm gonna go dead All

right in Percy Jackson and the Olympians lightning

thief he ends up alive Probably only because

he played an immortal god See I should have well

I was thinking I don't remember seeing him in

the sequel so he's probably done All right, Dan

you're up next the film is a golden eye he is

dead Yes, first he falls 500 feet off a satellite

dish and then the satellite falls on him, you

know just to hammer home the point So he is definitely

dead in that Matt let's go with Anna Karenina

the film that's a movie. I have heard the name

of once I'm just gonna go with the statistic

and go with the lie or dead rather He ends up

alive but about to head off on a suicide mission

I'm starting to worry here like I've been living

a dynasty on these movie games. I've been cementing

it every week dot but you've been you've been

on the back around once but never in the actual

game whatever i need your next the movie is troy

what like uh... delict ron but different no will

be true like it's like a million the odyssey

with all of them and you know it like uh... that

douchebag you knew in college troy okay he's

dead now on uh... odysseus Lives through the

war Yes All right back to Dan Dan let's see here

try to give you a silent hill Jesus Kill was

dead He is alive in that Maybe they'll kill him

off in the sequel All right, so right now it's

one for Matt one for Dan. So we got to keep going

until we break this tie Matt The film is... Patriot

Games. Man, I don't watch movies. I'm gonna go

with dead because I think you've only thrown

out two deads because everyone expects them to

be dead. Patriot Games, he is stabbed by a boat

hook and paled on an anchor with the boat exploding

afterwards for good measure. So live then. Probably

dead. All right, Dan you're up next or Nate's

up next. It's my turn. All right, so an easy

one here. The Lord of the Rings, the Fellowship

of the Ring. Dead. Yes. All right, definitely

dead in that one. Dan, you are up then and which

one haven't we done here? Don't say a word. Okay

Movie don't say a word. I'll go with alive He

is buried alive, but still dead All right, we'll

quit after that one and let Matt go first the

other ones I don't know Obviously Game of Thrones

would be too easy, and I don't want to spoil

anything for anybody that hasn't seen that Other

ones, uh, let's see. Where else did he die black

beauty? No didn't die in that one. That's a kid's

film Died in equilibrium died in black death

died in Yeah partner in beginning died in the

TV show Henry the eighth And died in the movie

the field I think he was killed by a cow in that

one anyway All right, so Matt will go first so

we're all warmed up now, so there's no excuses

and this is what I have for you guys We'll see

how it goes, but we got two rounds the first

round. We're talking about science fiction So

what I have here is I have the top 100 science

fiction films All right of all time according

to total sci -fi online. Don't worry. We're not

going to talk about all 100 So we're not going

to be here all night, but you each are gonna

have a turn going around throwing out a science

fiction film that you think made the top 100.

If it's on the list, you stay alive, but as soon

as you have three strikes, you are out and the

last person standing will win this round. So

you're just going to keep naming science fiction

films that you think made the top 100. So hopefully

you have some in your head when you think of

science fiction. Matt, since you won the last

round, you can pick the order that we go. Who's

going first, second, and third? Let's start with

Dan, then Nathan, me. Okay, one second. Get my

score pad ready. So again, once you pick three

movies that aren't on the list, you're out for

this round. So we're starting with Dan. All you

gotta do is name a science fiction film that

was in the top 100 science fiction films of all

time, and for a caveat here, none of them on

this list will be from the last five years. The

list is only up through 2009. That's why I picked

this particular publication. So it's from the

beginning until 2009. We will cover next week

the best of them from 2010 to present. So with

that being said, and you've had a second, I've

stalled as long as I can. Dan, what's the first

science fiction film you're going to put out

there? I'll go with 2001, A Space Odyssey. All

right. 2001, A Space Odyssey they had at their

number two spot. So that is correct. Matt, who

did you say was going second? Nate. I got a question,

though. Yeah. Are we supposed to not click on

the links under this category in the script?

Yeah, don't click on those. You're getting all

the praise. I was going to say, I could submit

my dynasty for real. No, don't click on those.

All right, Nate, you're up. Star Wars. All right,

Star Wars is... off of the list that was number

three from nineteen seventy seven star wars uh...

they took my one so i'm gonna have the only other

fact i mean from nineteen seventy seven which

was uh... close encounters close encounters also

from nineteen seventy seven so you do know movie

that i only know that one because we are playing

that uh... movie game and they're like sci -fi

movie nineteen thirty seven of the fucking star

wars and like nope ever that is cemented in my

head Nice that was a great movie game. We got

to play that again sometime, right? Pass the

popcorn if anybody's wondering great game Dan

you're up next back to the future Do the fun

part is me trying to go through 100 things to

find them back to the future is number 36 So

you're good with that Nate you're up next And

the sequel fun begins back to the future part

It's kind of like, uh, betting a dollar. I'm

somehow surprised, but no. Oh, come on! Part

two is not on the list. Nate gets one strike,

and Matt, we're back to you. Shoot. I had one

that I was like, this one's probably a pretty

good choice. Is this sci -fi fantasy? This one's

just science fiction according to however they

defined it at sci -fi online Do we got what you

call it classic one just remade Arnold Schwarzenegger

on Mars total recall To get to that one that's

on the list at number 20 Dan back to you alien

Alien number four on the list. He's on we're

going in order almost for some of these We got

two three and four out of the way Nate Blade

Runner Blade Runner's number one Knocked out

the top four Matt you're next dang Nate keeps

grabbing mine do over alright, so I can ask there

are sequels on here There are well, I'm gonna

go with Empire then Empire Strikes Back is number

13. Yeah, I will have a run Dan, you're next.

Metropolis. Metropolis is number five. Excellent.

You're not cheating, are you? No. I'm just kidding.

I'm trying to go with the ones I figured have

to be on there. Right. Nate, you're up. The Road

Warrior? The Road Warrior, Mad Max 2, number

34. Nice. Matt. And just so you're aware I have

a pretend stopwatch in my hand and you have like

20 seconds each time. Well, then I'm just gonna

say return of the Jedi Return of the Jedi has

to be on here. It's number 35. So that is out

of the way and Dan we're back to you aliens aliens

number 15 And then fit since we were just talking

about them excellent Nate big trouble in little

China What yeah? Big trouble science fiction

than that. I don't know. It's got crazy Chinese

magic Alright, um Matt back to you. Wrath of

Khan. Wrath of Khan is number 19 on the list.

Dan. The Matrix. The Matrix is number 21 on the

list. Be careful, Nate, you only have one strike

left and you're out. What do you got? Back to

the future 3. What are you doing, man? Committed

suicide, Sean Bean style. You can sit the rest

of this one out, sir. This is my favorite. I'm

just choosing movies I like, I don't care, whatever.

Alright, Matt. Dang, I'm gonna lose. Um, uh,

the last Starfighter. The last? No, dude, that

movie is amazing. It's a little 80s, a little

dated, but it's an amazing movie. I'm looking

for it. I am looking for it. I am not in it.

I don't wanna do it that way. Too easy. But,

uh, no, I'm not seeing the last Starfighter,

so that is your first strike, Matt. Dan. Let's

go with the original Planet of the Apes. Planet

of the Apes is number eight. Matt. What about

the original Star Trek movie? The original Star

Trek movie, like Star Trek the... Does it have

a name? The Star Trek movie, I think. Oh, First

Contact. Oh, I'm sorry. No, that's Next Gen.

Yes, no. You're talking about the original, like,

first Star Trek movie ever. Or the 2009 one.

You have a second strike, Matt. Whatever year

that was, 1970 -something or whatever, is not

on here. Dan? So this is up to 2009? Yep. Including

movies from 2009? Correct. Avatar? No way. Nate's

doubting it. The man that is out of the game

doubting your pick. It had the elements of setting

forward the technology in the movies. What do

you think if it came out that year was a huge

movie? It didn't make the list. Somehow not on

the list, so your first strike. Matt, you can't

have any more strikes. Well, then I'm gonna have

to go with a surefire thing like E .T. the extraterrestrial.

That's number nine on the list, so we have three

left in our top ten. Jaws! You can't pick any

of them. You're not! I feel like this is turning

into celebrity jeopardy real quick here. Dan,

you're up. I'll go with another classic then.

This has to be in it. The original The Day the

Earth Stood Still. The Day the Earth Stood Still

is number six on the list. We still got two in

our top ten that we haven't picked yet. Matt,

can you get one of them? I could get a strike!

Don't worry, Dead Air makes for good entertainment.

Yeah. I'm just kidding. I don't know, I'm gonna

throw it away because I can't think. Iron Man

was 2009, I believe, so let's go with that. Iron

Man? Possibly not considered sci -fi by them,

maybe? It's got a robot powered by a battery

that's an inch big. And not on the list. Yeah,

it's a dumb list anyway. All right, Dan, let's

see how long you can go here. See if you can

get a few more off the list before you get your

other two strikes. What do you got? Okay, Solaris.

Solaris is number 10. Terminator 2. Terminator

2 is number 32. The original Terminator? Terminator

is our seventh. That's the last one in the top

10. Science fiction, science fiction, science

fiction. Children of Men. Children of they consider

that science be on there but Yep, 66 Moon is

probably too small to come out moon is number

74. Oh, wow. All right, so weird were they moon,

but not I guess yeah I don't know. I can't really

think Invasion of the body snatchers Invasion

of the Body Snatchers is number 56. Which do

you... You're on a roll. Yes, 1956 version. What

else do you got? A couple more? I'll go with

one. I don't know if this will make it, but maybe

Jurassic Park? Jurassic Park is number 25. And

not Iron Man? Nope. The man can't be stopped.

You got a few more in you, Dan, and then we'll

call it a quake. Uh... They said blame it on

our aliens. Uh... It's another classic science

fiction for forbidden or the drama to strain.

I don't know if that'd be on there Yep on drama

to strain is number 48. Is that a good movie?

I like that movie. It's it's dated but I like

that movie. It was a really boring book It's

kind of a boring movie. But uh, it's like it's

very I don't know. It's very like procedural

but I kind of like it Logan's run maybe it's

kind of a bad movie, but maybe Logan's run 63

Yeah, it's really dated Don't be ashamed and

keep strutting the stuff here you're getting

mad movie points out there from all that are

listening I just watched no I just watch a lot

of movies What's Spielberg make? Indiana Jones!

The fourth one. Not science fiction. Oh, the

fourth one would not have made that one. The

thing? The thing. I would think that would be

on. The thing is number 23, yeah. If he's done,

can I ask some questions? Yeah, go ahead and

ask a few more. What about the fly or the fly?

The Fly was number 31. Brazil. Brazil is number

17. Day of the Triffids. Day of the Triffids?

What is that? I've never heard of that. What?

It's like a British post -apocalyptic movie.

It was kind of big. I don't know. There's a few

animated films on there. What would they be?

WALL -E. WALL -E is on there. Yeah, number 37

for sure. The Fantastic Planet. Yep, Fantastic

Planet. That's a trippy movie. Yep. Heavy Metal.

Yeah, that one didn't make the list. You guys

did pretty well as far as the top 25. We've named

almost all of them. A Trip to the Moon, Silent

Running. I wouldn't know. I didn't think they

would count that since it's a short film. Yeah,

that's so old. A Silent Running, Akira, Tronk.

Tron and Robocop are the other ones for the top

25 that you guys didn't get. I really didn't

like Akira. Really? Other than that, some of

the bigger ones there from the rest of the list,

Clockwork Orange. Wait, that's science fiction?

It takes place in the future. The Fifth Element.

Okay. Really? Yeah. From 97 that made number

28. Other ones in the top 50 would be the Abyss.

Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind and Some

of the ones I'm not as familiar with and then

from the other half We only actually picked four

from from the the second half of the list Other

ones on there would be the 1954 Godzilla Gattaca

minority report Ghost in this should have kept

with Spielberg. Yeah. Yep ghost in the shell

Star Trek undiscovered country 1979 Mad Max,

Donnie Darko, Soylent Green, Star Trek Troopers,

Twelve Monkeys, Event Horizon, Independence Day,

THX 1138, Dune, the 2009 Star Trek, Galaxy Quest,

1980 Flash Gordon, Predator, Yeah, so for the

whole list no, it's amazing. It's just surprising

that some of these other ones aren't on there

if that one is So for the whole list you can

go to the episode post and we'll have the link

to the whole 100 so you can peruse that And and

take a look at that, but we will give Dan the

crown there for the science fiction round And

we will move into our round two which is basically

gonna be the exact same way guys except we're

talking about fantasy films now so we're gonna

switch it up since next week we're doing a combination

sci -fi and fantasy top ten we gotta pay homage

to those that came before us in the fantasy world

to again nothing that uh... from the last five

years is included on this list I think the most

recent one again, yep, the most recent one is

a couple from 2009. So this list came to us from

digitaldreamdoor .com. They do actually have

a top 100 list of every genre possible and all

kinds of other lists. So if you're a movie list

fan, they have a ton of them. I'm not a fan of

movies, just movie lists. Yeah, that's all I

like too. I like listing everything. I like my

favorite list. I have a list of my favorite lists.

Oh, Buzzfeed is shitting here. But Dan, since

you won that round, you can pick the order this

round. Who's going first? Let's keep it the same

way, I guess. Okay. So we will start with Dan.

Remember, we're talking fantasy films. Now, I

will say that's probably one of the genres that's

interpreted or defined the most differently.

So don't be mad at us for their definition of

fantasy. We're going off of their site. But I

think most of these do fall under the fantasy.

Realm so to speak. So Dan you're up first. What

do you got? I'm gonna go with an easy one and

Lord of the Rings Fellowship with the ring. I

would assume they would split them up Fellowship

of the ring is number four on their list. So

that is good Nate. What do you got Conan the

Barbarian? I hate you On the podcast Conan the

Barbarian is number 53 so that's In the middle.

If it's only 53, then there's no way Red Sonia's

on that list. I'm not giving anything away unless

you officially make a guess. Yeah, well, I'm

not gonna waste a one on that. Okay. What do

you got then? Uh, Crawl the Conqueror? There's

a cull. I think it might be Call the Conqueror.

I'm going to give you credit for... A movie called

Crawl. Okay, yeah. Sure. I'm probably wrong.

I think those are two different movies, but I'm

gonna take it because I need it. Alright. Dan,

thank you. When did you say this list came out?

The list features films all the way up through

2009. It has a few in 2009. Okay. I don't know

if I'm gonna say that. Well, I'll go with probably

one of the Harry Potter's maybe. The Prisoner

of Azkaban. That's usually the best one. Prisoner

of Azkaban is number 13 and that is a good franchise

to guess a couple films from Which ones though

Nate legend legend is number six Matt You love

fantasy films man, yeah, I like good fantasy

film boy legend What are you doing? I don't know,

man. You know, I've got the worst memory of any

person I know. Other than maybe Nate's wife.

I'm gonna go... Fire and Ice. Fire and Ice? I

like that. I don't know if I'm seeing it here.

Fire and Ice is not on the list, somehow. It

wasn't amazing. No, it's kind of boring. Good

animation, but... All right, so that's the first

strike for Matt. We're back to Dan. Well, I guess

if Heavy Metal wasn't science fiction, maybe

it'll be fantasy, so I'll kind of, based off

Fire and Ice, go with Heavy Metal. Heavy Metal...

I don't know if it'd be fantasy or not. I don't

know what that would be. It is not on the list.

So we'll give you the first strike of yours and

back to Nate the only person without a strike

Nate. What do you got? Willow Willow is number

nine Nice excellent pick there back to you Let's

go with the easy pick of the first Harry Potter

movie Sorcerer's Stone Sorcerer's Stone is number

eight second Harry Potter film to be mentioned

and that will keep you alive with no strikes

Dan back to you one trick Uh, okay, fantasy.

Well, we said Harry Potter already. What about

Wizard of Oz? Wizard of Oz is number one. Number

one, Wizard of Oz. Nate, and if you guys get

down a couple paths, you might open some more

possibilities up, but we'll see. Nate, what do

you got next? The Adventures of Baron Munchausen.

That is number 14. What? Above Conan? Number

14 on the list, The Adventures of Baron Munchausen.

Matt, that brings it next to you. You got one

strike. What are you going to hear? Man, I don't

know. Indiana Jones. And I need more than that.

The first one. Indiana Jones is the first one

he did. Raiders of the Lost Ark. Yeah, is that

the first one? Yes. Raiders of the Lost Ark is

number 22, Matt. You're safe. Dan, back to you.

Yes, so Raiders of the Lost Ark is number 22.

He says there are some ones that are questionable.

Okay. Well, I said the first Lord of the Rings,

so I'll say the third Lord of the Rings, Return

of the King. And then you followed up your number

one pick from last time with the number two on

the list this time, so Return of the King is

number two. Nate. Trying what do you got? Something

cool Or maybe you got some I don't have anything

in my head Well the Lord of the Rings number

two two towers number that is number ten Lord

of the Rings is off of the board So no more easy

picks from Lord of the Rings Matt What do you

got next you had Raiders of the Lost Ark last

time? I mean if you want to Alright, that's number

42 on the list and back to you. Well, then I'll

go with the fourth Indiana Jones film and now

I'm just joking Trying to go through my favorite

films and what I like Oh Always Princess Bride

The Princess Bride glad someone picked it that

is number seven on the on the list I'm glad it's

that high to one of my favorite films of all

time Nate that brings it back to you Toy Story

Toy Story fantasy No, come on Yes, if we're using

that definition then you could just name every

animated film almost whatever All right. So y

'all have one strike Matt back to you That's

the way to think they're positive thinking we

like how about the original doctor do little

Dr. Doolittle nominee for Best Picture that is

going way back Apparently the the Academy Award

was not enough to make that on the list so no

doctor Alright Dan, what do you got now speaking

of writing? How about never -ending story? Never

-ending story that is an excellent pick and it's

on the list at number 31 so Staying alive there

Nate. What do you got? There's a couple franchises

and subgenres of fantasy that you guys haven't

delved into yet the page master Page master I

haven't even heard that in such a long time Goodness

gracious page master Is actually not on here

I'm just trying to do with Matt I'm gonna be

in a two strike category two strikes so you guys

can't have any more I'm not gonna be this category

very long Nate don't worry What do you got now?

So I've got one that I've got two ideas, and

I'm not gonna get them both out because they're

both gonna be strikes So they go I want to go

with the more fantasy one aragon arrogant The

dragon? Talking dragon? That is a terrible pitbull

joke. The other one was Ghostbusters. I was actually

thinking Ghostbusters. Alright, so Matt said

Ghostbusters, which is good. That's number 25

on the list. Like I said, the other one was more

fantasy. That's why I... Dan, what do you got

next? I was thinking Ghostbusters too. Don't

think Ghostbusters 2. Did it put Ghostbusters

3 on there already? It's already on the list.

It's a pandering list. What about, would Groundhog

Day be considered fantasy? Groundhog Day? Good

film? I don't think they're considering that

fantasy though. Nope, not on there. So we're

equal with two strikes apiece for everybody.

Nate, what do you got next? What's the one where

Sean Connery is a dragon it's called like dragon

dragon dragon heart dragon heart number 26 on

the list Matt what do you got next? Don't pick

Aragon? Highlander Highlander is number 40 I

love Highlander Highlander, do you want to say

Labyrinth? No labyrinth is number 15 on the list

Three on the list Matt There's another movie

that's similar to those two I Don't got nothing

man your mask Mirror mask it's pretty fantasy

is on the list at number 61 All right, Dan, we're

going strong here. Everyone's surviving. What

do you got? Oh Pan's Labby, Pan's Labyrinth?

Yeah, number 12. Found Labyrinth up with Pan's

Labyrinth. That's genius. So those two are off

the board. Nate, what do you got next? You guys

are still missing one sub -genre completely and

one franchise out there completely. Oh, I think

I know what franchise she's I Don't think I'm

gonna count that as a guess no The one where

Shaq was a robot steal No, the one where, uh,

Hulk Hogan was a robot. Do that one. This one's

from Shaq to Hulk Hogan. They're like the same,

dude. No, seriously. You're the one where, uh,

I think it was called Suburban Commando. Suburban

Commando. You have to call me in. Dude, you could

sample a better choice than Suburban Commando.

This is terrible and you are eliminated from

this game. I didn't give a real guess. Turd Ferguson

get off your face. Oh Matt, what do you got next?

Survive that Brave little toaster Go in the animated

route again. They don't go Toy Story. They go

Brave Little Toaster. That'll be No, Brave Little

Toaster is not on the list Dan. You got to name

one for the win You said franchises. I'm thinking

maybe this is what you're talking about. And

the Pirates movie? What's the first one called?

Oh, god, there's so many of them.