90’s Villains Tournament – Team Battle Finals

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blue and you are listening to the geek cast radio

network Hello and welcome to GCR and wars tournament,

this is the 90s villains Finals and yes, you

may be asking what happened to the semi -finals.

Well we decided to cut it for time purposes and

trying to get to the top 100 and Also because

it was going to be essentially the same fight

we just had this time just eliminating one extra

player so Joining me is movie repo Dan Hey, how's

it going? Hey so Did the last round go anything

like you thought it was going to go? The the

winners I mean there were not necessarily like

I Thought I was actually quite surprised to see

Are you speaking of who is making it to the finals?

Just so I'm not revealing anything before I should

nope not not revealing anything Yeah out of out

of the I mean, we'll touch on the first side

of the bracket first with the the Mandarin, Dark

Phoenix, Dark Cat, Skull Master, and Apocalypse.

I'm still surprised that Dr. Doom didn't get

further than... The right side has really surprised

me a lot more than the left side. The left side

seems to kind of go by chalk is what I expected,

but Dr. Doom going out, Lex Luthor going out,

those have still really surprised me. I thought

they would both make it... further than they

did. And this most recent round, I think, I was

assuming it would go through popularity, but

based upon the loss of my check, it doesn't seem

like that was actually the case. No, what's actually

funny is the first side of the bracket with the

Mandarin, Dark Phoenix, Dark Cat, Skull Master,

and Apocalypse. Surprisingly, the Mandarin didn't

fare very well. He got one vote. out of the 24

that were there, and Dark Cat got exactly zero,

Skull Master got seven or 29 % of the votes,

and Dark Phoenix and Apocalypse were tied at

eight votes, 33 % apiece. So those two will be

moving on, and obviously, if we were gonna do

the semifinals, we know the three that we're

gonna move on anyway. just based on this battle.

So it just makes it easier to skip to the team

battle. So you have Dark Phoenix and Apocalypse

on this side of the bracket. And then the other

side... I was kind of surprised and yet thankful

at the same time. And one of the King of Kongs

actually mentioned that... If this battle doesn't

end up being self or Stark Phoenix something

went wrong glad to see Joker is losing because

although I love the character He is now out of

his depth or out of his league So yeah, I can

I don't disagree with that yeah considering this

isn't a Torment over which character you like

the most but actually physical battle yet Joker's

not you know, he he has a lot of tricks up his

sleeve and he can really manipulate people but

Going against someone who is like the godlike

powers is a little bit above him. So yeah, that's

definitely above his pay grade He's used to fighting

a bat in a suit or a man in a bat suit. So it's

Yeah, it's uh He he can just stay in Gotham City

and then corporate commander He he got one vote.

The joker got three and ink surprisingly got

five votes I was ink was one. I thought could

be a wild card because of the popularity of Batman

Beyond, and I feel like she was probably one

of the most notable villains in that series.

So I'm not surprised that she actually thought

she might get a little bit more, but I'm glad

you to get to my presentation. I kind of knew

who was going to pull away on this side as like

the the number one. I was still holding out hope

for Megatron either way, but. He thankfully made

it to the top two on this side with eight votes

and 31 percent and Cell, not surprisingly, hit

nine votes with 35 percent. So yeah, you've got

robots against godlike powers. So. Yeah, and

I mean, it's interesting because I mean, I guess

Megatron has. taken different forms that have

certainly had been quite powerful but not necessarily

to the level of some of the other catchers on

this list. See I wonder like yes I posted this

particular Beast Wars image of Megatron however

he really could be playing at any of the levels

like he could technically be the dragon Megatron

in Beast Wars even and Be more able to go toe

-to -toe with with some of these Mutants however,

I still feel that cell See Megatron is more so

the brain It almost in the same instance of how

apocalypse would be because he's almost robotic

like in a sense But you've also got cell who's

nearly indestructible almost like apocalypse

indestructible and he's also got all the Z fighters

powers yeah and one thing to just this the speed

advantage is clear you know it's like the ability

that Dragon Ball Z characters especially sell

like their their speed level is you know ungodly

or So I don't think that's even something Megatron

in any form could probably really compete against

No, I mean, I know his dragon forms a little

bit faster than this particular one However,

I do think this particular one might be a little

bit faster just in the sense. He doesn't have

wings. He's get jets So he could possibly out

maneuver as well and kind of play to that Which

I think both of them would fare well against

apocalypse. It's dark Phoenix That's kind of

the the wild card of does she feel like fighting

them? Does she not feel like fighting them? Yeah,

I mean Phoenix like Because ultimately Phoenix

is designed to be a source of good it doesn't

always kind of go out that way because It is

just like it's almost like this power of a god

and of a child in certain instances and can drive

people crazy. We've certainly seen that, but

there have been cases where the phoenix was defeated

or partially of the phoenix. And the other part

with Jean Grey, there's been different varying

levels of the phoenix force that she's had. And

she has been killed on multiple occasions. That's

kind of her thing. Though she has been back for

quite a while, though she's coming back soon

because that's how they roll. So I think that's

something that you could see Megatron trying

to play against. She's a very curious type of

character. She kind of likes to learn new things

or can be manipulated. Yeah, and if anyone could

could do that in this list, it probably would

be Megatron possibly apocalypse, but apocalypse

is more so just brawn compared to Compared to

like, you know thinking things through to that

level Yeah, and and even to some extent cell

is kind of a brain as well Because he outmaneuvered

all of the the Dragon Ball Z fighters right down

to the bitter end Even in the instance of at

his last remaining cell still surviving Goku

Destroying him and King Kai's planet and and

cell and still managed to get his way back So

yeah, I mean Those those two I mean all of them

have died at one point so That's true. I feel

that's a kind of a good theme with with villains

is that they do tend to tend to die and come

back a Good question would be like which one

of these has died the most or had the most forms

and I don't know that might be I guess in Megatron

Maybe Phoenix. I mean this specific Dark Phoenix

has really been one person but well, you know

Megatron he's changed he changed four times in

Beast Wars alone and then he changed like Beast

Machines, although he had godlike powers, he

changed bodies like eight times in Beast Machines,

but that was more so loss of essence in a solid

body at one point. But yeah, he changed bodies

four times during the duration of Beast Wars,

and Cell changed bodies three times, like changed

forms. You can almost I mean both of those were

more so evolutions. They didn't really die per

se Yeah, and we're the other has been straight

up straight up killed on a few occasions and

with time travel becomes tricky and Phoenix as

well. She is she's been with a force itself That's

not necessarily because that's the thing. It's

like it is a force that embodies a person so

It's not necessarily that the force is being

killed. So that's but if you do kill the host

then you have the possibility of Kind of you

know, defeating it overall. So yeah, I get trans

kind of like the Madonna villains because it

just keeps reinventing himself Yeah, and I can

kind of see Megatron to some extent weakening

the Phoenix Force within Jean enough to Kill

her or having cell absorb enough of the Phoenix

Force because that's one of his key powers is

absorption of abilities and powers and whatnot

to make himself stronger. So I could see him

doing that enough to weaken the host to have

Megatron take her out and then it would just

be a simple game of outmaneuvering Apocalypse

until they could destroy his armor. pieces like

apocalypse does have like the physical manipulation

so he can make himself like gigantic and huge

so I know Megatron himself is a rather large

person in beginning with but I think like if

you just look at all the interchangeable all

the different like skills from fighting ability

to intelligence to just Ability to adapt. I do

think like sell them and have one of the biggest

edges I don't think there's a doubt that Phoenix

is probably the most powerful but There are certainly

flaws there that can be manipulated Yeah, and

and I can't argue with any of that either like

Phoenix is definitely probably the strongest

one out of this entire group Because you're dealing

with a force of energy and power versus physical

manifestation of it, so But yeah, I mean I can

I think cell and in Phoenix are definitely the

main wild cards in this but It's gonna be an

interesting vote that's just put it that way

I know some people are gonna be like hardcore

this this might come down to either a battle

of popularity or looking at the actual abilities

and the deaths and the Near -death experiences

and survival of various things so It's gonna

definitely be interesting I have hope it won't

be a popularity con. I mean the fact that the

Joker didn't didn't go I was extremely happy

on that Has me thinking that that might be a

sign for things to come. We'll see. Yeah, so

if you were to pick some Out I know you love

Megatron But it's just simply based upon who

do you think should win not who do you think

you who you want to win? Well, I mean obviously

I want Megatron to win but like I don't know,

it's kind of a toss -up still between Phoenix

and Cell, but I almost want to give Cell more

of the benefit of the doubt, not because he's

paired with Megatron, but because he's such a

devious SOB from Dragon Ball Z that he took down

literally an entire group of Z fighters on his

own. and just didn't really even break a sweat

like absorbed them he stole their powers and

it took a really pissed off Gohan to take him

out and even then it was it was kind of debatable

yeah i think with the phoenix unlike full power

like phoenix has the ability to basically to

like destroy planets on a whim like if if gone

to like extreme power lengths dot thing with

the phoenix is that the power just fluctuate

so i'm i'm test i'm my thought is to go with

dark phoenix even though like there there may

be some i mean cell is a tough one to combat

like you mentioned because fighting skills wise

you know team gray is not necessarily prone to

like martial arts by any means um but i there's

just i think a power level that i think even

cell may not be able to Maintain But I don't

know. I'm gonna be really curious to see what

what people actually vote Yeah, and the other

thing is the cell could possibly work wear them

down with creating cell juniors You remember

how he could uh, yeah, I forgot all about that

to be honest I forgot about it until I was looking

at his face and I was like I remember he used

to do that They were really annoying in the video

game yeah, I mean I guess to if like Using the

ability to use the other androids or you know,

yeah I mean as you think about the power of Goku

and like what he's able to do He I mean he basically

is a god in the fact that like he sell to went

toe -to -toe for with him And Goku still lost

yeah And they I mean in Dragon Ball Z usually

you can tell someone's power by whether they

can destroy a planet or not I mean, I know then

like Frieza I thought that remember like he destroyed

like a you could destroy things just by like

kind of pointing at them and I keep like the

Like like a mountain or something like that and

he destroyed it and then sells like how much

more powerful than him So that makes me think

that like he might have capabilities that perhaps

for even demonstrated just Well, and he he could

self -destruct too and still survive Yeah, maybe

that'll be it actually Joker will come in and

like set off with some sort of a crazy like atomic

bomb and end up walking away the Victor That

would be funny a crazy upset that just out of

left field and The Joker just comes in laughing

as there there's bodies on the ground all around

him But yeah, what do you guys think just leave

the comments in the episode post and like it

or hate it vote on the the episode and Yeah,

let us know why you think one would win over

the other, one team or individual. Yeah, definitely.

And if you're voting comment, because there's

only one person that you're voting for now, right?

So just put back a quick, like, this is who I

voted for and why, just because it'd be interesting

to see people's mindset. And the people who voted

for ink, like, why did you do that? I think you

might be able to even sway some people on your

side if you come up with a good argument. Yeah,

definitely, and we will be having some some interesting

teasing of matchups coming up soon for the the

top 100 But I think we'll have more of that information

on next week's GCR and wars so Yeah, should be

fun. Yep. So until next time I've been Steve

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