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90’s Villains Tournament – Quarterfinals

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The WarZ Tournament moves into the quarterfinals as Steve, MovieRevolt Dan, and Alex break down the second side of the bracket results, then dive into a five-person free-for-all featuring Dark Phoenix, Apocalypse, the Mandarin, Skull Master, and Dark Cat. They analyze power levels, popularity, and predict who'll advance to the semifinals before turning their attention to the right side of the bracket with the Joker, Cell, Megatron, Cobra Commander, and Ink—where popularity might trump raw power.

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Wars. This is the quarter finals round of the

tournament. Joining me in this episode is Movie

Revolt Dan. Hey! Hello, and Alex from This Week

in Geek. Hello, hello. Hello. Yes, so we have

more than one and more than two this week, so...

Yeah, sorry for the delay last week. Schedules

didn't line up and it actually worked out because

now we have a third chair to converse on the

villains. So I should probably go through who

won out of the second side of the bracket since

we didn't get to really go over there, even though

everybody probably knows by now. but it'll just

be fun to kind of go through and have a breakdown

of How it how it kind of fell from the The the

round two battles so on the one side we had We

had Sorry, my computer's taking forever Professor

Moriarty versus the Mandarin the Mandarin one

we had That was 18 to 7. We had Dark Phoenix

against High Evolutionary. Dark Phoenix took

it away with 27 votes to 0. We had Nugaduck versus

Dark Cat. Dark Cat took it away at 18 votes.

Skull Master versus Jafar. Skull Master took

it away at 19 votes. And Apocalypse versus Bloth.

Somehow Bloth got one vote. Against Apocalypse

is 25. I don't understand that. There's no universe

where Apocalypse would not win. On the other

side of the bracket we had Ink vs. King Koopa.

Ink took it away at 17. Cobra Commander and Dr.

Doom were probably the closest fight on any of

the... Battles and dr. Doom lost actually by

one point. Oh Really yes, I was I was like that's

why when I sent the original art I was assuming

dr. Doom was winning and Yeah, the Cobra commander

snuck in with one extra vote So I guess we'll

see how he squeaks by in this next battle If

he does at all Then we had the Joker against

Captain Pollution who took it away at 25 votes

and Lex Luthor fought Megatron and Megatron took

it away at 18 votes and Cell took it at 22 votes

against Dr. Robotnik. Any surprises in this round?

I mean you already mentioned it but like Dr.

Doom losing to Cobra Commander to me is... just

wrong on every level. I mean, come on now. Other

than that, no, I think it all kind of makes sense.

I mean, I guess Lex Luthor, Megatron, I think

when we did that, I went the other way, but I'm

not surprised the vote went with Megatron. But

Doom, really, I thought he would make it all

the way to the finals, so. I thought so too,

but at least. At least we do have some Marvel

representation here. It's just on the wrong side

of the bracket. So we'll have to see how this

all pans out. I wasn't really surprised that

the Joker took out Captain Pollution. I was surprised

that it was a blowout. So there is that. So this

round this is the first time we've ever done

something like this, but it's a free -for -all

of a five person battle and It's between the

Mandarin Dark Phoenix Dark Cat Skull Master in

Apocalypse all big bads all dark and some of

them have magical powers actually most of them

have that so Who wants to go first? So going

with mandarin and dark phoenix Are those the

two that you're you're pining for or are you

just saying? No, I think Yeah looking yeah, so

I mean dark Phoenix is kind of Yeah, I mean,

power level was probably unsurpassed by anyone

on here. We questionably sell on the other side

of the bracket, but I think if any, she's been

to me like the person to win it since the beginning,

and I still feel that way. Okay. Yeah. From this

side, it would be, with her, the issue is the

unpredictability. She could just... decide she

doesn't want to fight or thinks it's insignificant

and leave. Which could be interesting. Yeah.

I would probably go with Apocalypse. At least

as the forerunner. Just based on what's there.

Because what? Looking at the bracket, what? Three

people move on to the next round. Yep. Is that

what happens? Yep Then I would go probably Phoenix

Apocalypse The Mandarin Okay Partially because

I don't think I know the other two. Okay. Well

dirt cat just to kind of to re -preface some

of the characters. Dark Cat, he's basically just

a glorified, heavyweight gangster that's intelligent,

but for the most part makes people do his dirty

work for him. Skull Master is from Mighty Max.

He's from... His powers are... He's voiced by

Tim Curry. His powers are... He controls this

soul stone and He wants to kind of control time

as well, which is why he's such a big bad in

the series but he does have power over summoning

different villains of just kind of teleportation

of He's he's got all these mystical dark magic

powers, so He's kind of a force to be reckoned

with too, but I don't know how he would fare

against See him in the the Mandarin could possibly

go toe -to -toe, but I don't know the extent

of the Mandarin's powers Whereas like I was gonna

say he I don't think he stacks up to wait he

doesn't to Dark Phoenix no and not apocalypse

either And dark cat I think it's gonna be the

automatic lose in this round Just because he

has no power to go up against any of these other

four Yeah, I mean the Mandarin's rings are I

believe if you go up going off the the cartoon

We're it, you know alien technology and you're

looking at someone like apocalypse That's the

same thing with his, you know his armor, but

celestial. Let's just like his pretty intense

alien technology as you can get So I like I great

Dark Hawk. I mean he looks cool as a villain

But he's kind of I think he's a little bit out

of his league with some of these other characters

So we can all pretty much agree that it's gonna

be the Marvel villains that kind of push on to

the semi -finals then Yeah Yeah, that's that's

kind of who I have in mind for the the moving

on to the next round it's it's when it gets to

the the the finale of the the team battles because

it'll be a two -on -two of both sides of the

bracket so it's it's figuring out who's gonna

get tanked in the next round to go on. But yeah,

I definitely see Dark Cat going out and I think

it's going to be kind of a toss -up between either

familiarity or the power levels of Mandarin and

Skull Master. I pretty much think that Dark Phoenix

and Apocalypse will move on. if not only the

semi -finals to the finale as well. So do we

want to move on to the other side of the bracket,

which is a bit more questionable and a bit more

diverse in that we don't have a clue who may

take away certain aspects? Yeah, because I think

what you'll see too with this side, I think The

left side certainly has the power and but I think

the right side has a lot of the popularity Uh

when you look at some of these characters like

yeah the joker, you know putting joker against

phoenix That's an easy easy win for phoenix.

But as we as we know when it comes to Anything

of this nature popularity helps you a great deal.

Um, and joker is unpredictable. So And I mean

obviously on the side we have someone like cell

who was like immensely Powerful just because

any character in the universe of Dragon Ball

Z I mean they could who knows he you know could

you can match that of the Phoenix? But you know

his craziness It's wonder it you wonder how that

works when you're going against Additionally

crazy people like a Megatron or something like

that. Does it have the same impact as it does

on a Batman? That's where maybe he Would not

be as formidable some of these others If you're

even if you're going by power you I would almost

think Megatron is out because he's a construct

he doesn't have some sort of celestial power

or You know what I mean? Like he's just Technically

he's a robot, right? There's not Anything that

makes him remarkable and you know, he doesn't

have like magic. He doesn't have that sort of

thing But in the same token then you could almost

argue that Anyone but sell on this side wouldn't

win because even sell is yeah in a dream. Yeah

Yeah, yeah But if we're going popularity wise

You'd almost have to go. Oh what? You three get

to move forward. You'd almost have to go Joker

Then Megatron, then it's a toss -up probably

between Cobra Commander and Cell See I This is

this is one that's kind of tricky for me I because

ink does have the like the almost clay face ability

of being able to reshape and into kind of infiltrate

things however She could be destroyed in any

number of ways from the opposite side but Kind

of going about it Megatron has the intelligence

to get past that the Joker is probably the only

crazy person enough to come up with some kind

of a chemical concoction to take her out This

version of Cobra commander it's kind of hit or

miss like if it was the 80s Cobra commander It's

a little bit different, but I mean it's a continuation

of the same character however. Oh Yeah, I forgot

90s. This is the 90s Cobra commander. Okay. Yeah,

then he's out where his biggest thing was joining

forces against pollution and having a rock band

to take over the world. So I almost see him as

being the first one out just on that alone, because

he was never right after he became a man again,

despite my like for the armor. I almost think

that it's gonna be between you have the this

of these this crazy intelligence of Megatron

you have the sheer power and energy of cell and

then you have the chaos and and intelligence

and Insanity of the Joker and then you kind of

have like the best of all of it kind of playing

against each other because And the only reason

I think that the Joker not only popularity, but

he almost took out Part of the Justice League

and Justice League unlimited he'd almost took

out bat or Superman in the Batman Superman movie

animated and Batman was the only reason it didn't

happen was because he got the the kryptonite

away from the Joker and So, I mean there's there's

multiple reasons why any of these people could

make it out of the next round However, I think

it's gonna be those three Yeah, I mean The fact

that Cobra Commander beat Dr. Doom, which I know

Dr. Doom is a pretty popular character in his

own right, it makes me wonder if he's going to

be that... Every kind of contest of this nature

always has that person who keeps moving forward

when they probably should have been kicked out

the first round. I feel like that might be Cobra

Commander when it comes to this tournament. I

think the right thing would be probably a Phoenix

Cell head -to -head final matchup, but my guesses

are probably not gonna get that but we'll see.

I mean people could surprise us Yeah, I mean

I would love to see as far as the the the team

battle versus I would love to see Power against

robot, but that's just personal bias because

I'm a fan of Beast Wars and of Dragon Ball Z.

I don't see the Joker really stacking up against

Apocalypse or Dark Phoenix. Maybe the Mandarin,

but that would be as far as I would push it in

that Triumf rune over there. But I don't see

Ink or Cobra Commander going on beyond this round.

And if they did make it to the semi -finals,

I don't. I don't know what that would do to the

lineup, but It would be so unpredictable at that

point So is this how we we think that the the

lineup is going to go from? This point on I think

so. I think when you're getting down To the groupings

you're gonna get a little bit. It's It's less

about like who can beat who and more like I like

that character So or maybe that's maybe that's

not right. Maybe when if it's not just simply

Person against person people might look at it

a little bit differently. So the fact that we

I think that could Add a little bit of a different

element compared to the previous round. So Yeah,

and you may just who knows there could be a whole

bunch of listeners that are super fans of one

person And they're gonna vote them in no matter

what Yeah, I could definitely see that that coming

into play the voting for the next round just

because And then all the way through to the finale

just because people have their preferences which

a lot of these characters were pretty Solid or

were known or at least iconic in some way in

the 90s even if they were less known They were

from a lot of the the 90s programming. It's just

been kind of surprising to see which ones got

kicked out early of some of that first round.

Some of them not so surprising, but especially

with round two, the ones that out of some of

them that made it through were a little bit surprising

on the one side of the bracket. So yeah, I definitely

think that we're gonna end up with a power battle

by the end of it of popularity and possibly some

of it being the brawn of them, but... And their

their power, but I think it's gonna be a lot

of the the popularity by the end. I Mean, I think

we do have something like ink who has gotten

this far and you think like You know, like she

wouldn't she's one that actually I know there's

a lot of Batman Beyond fans So there actually

may be a lot more fans to that character than

we realize I mean she did beat like, you know

Koopa, which is not the biggest thing in the

world, but there's a lot of Mario fans He's probably

one of the most popular cartoon villains characters

in video games so she may be a wild card to kind

of keep in mind that she may ended up going a

lot farther than we think so I think we'll call

that a night on the on the recording you guys

be sure to voice your opinion in the comments

and in the voting booths and let us know who's

going under the next round there will be two

polls in there for the semi -finals so we can

knock them out in one round and then we'll come

back for the the surprise team battles and figure

out how we think that's gonna come out to play

so I have been Steve Megatron Phillips and joining

me this this time have been movie revolt Dan

Alex and how can the folks get a hold of you

on the social medias I am on Twitter at movie

revolt I'm on Twitter at at gravy moose And I'm

at SCP -21, so until next time, unleash the geek

in you.

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