GCRN WarZ
90’s Villains Tournament Quarterfinals

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About this Episode
and welcome to JCRN Wars. This is the quarter
finals round of the tournament. Joining me in
this episode is movie revolt Dan. Hey. Hello,
and Alex from This Week in Geek. Hello, hello.
Hello. Yes, so we have more than one and more
than two this week, so. Yeah, sorry for the delay
last week. Schedules didn't line up and it actually
worked out because now we have a third chair
to converse on the villains. So, I should probably
go through who won out of the second side of
the bracket since we didn't get to really go
over there. Even though everybody probably knows
by now. but it'll just be fun to kind of go through
and have a breakdown of How it how it kind of
fell from the The the round two battles so on
the one side we had We had Sorry, my computer's
taking forever Professor Moriarty versus the
Mandarin the Mandarin one we had That was 18
to 7. We had Dark Phoenix against High Evolutionary.
Dark Phoenix took it away with 27 votes to zero.
We had Nugaduck versus Dark Cat. Dark Cat took
it away at 18 votes. Skull Master versus Jafar.
Skull Master took it away at 19 votes. And Apocalypse
versus Bloth. Somehow Bloth got one vote Against
Apocalypse is 25. I don't understand that There's
no universe where Apocalypse would not win The
next on the other side of the bracket we had
ink verse King Koopa ink took it away at 17 Cobra
commander and dr. Doom were probably the closest
fight on any of the Battles and dr. Doom lost
actually by one point. Oh Really yes, I was I
was like that's why when I sent the original
art I was assuming dr. Doom was winning and Yeah,
the Cobra commander snuck in with one extra vote
So I guess we'll see how he squeaks by in this
next battle If he does it all Then we had the
Joker against Captain Pollution who took it away
at 25 votes and Lex Luthor fought Megatron and
Megatron took it away at 18 votes and Cell took
it at 22 votes against Dr. Robotnik. Any surprises
in this round? I mean you already mentioned it
but like Dr. Doom losing to Cobra Commander to
me is... just wrong on every level. I mean, come
on now. Other than that, no, I think it all kind
of makes sense. I mean, I guess Lex Luthor, Megatron,
I think when we did that, I went the other way,
but I'm not surprised the vote went with Megatron.
But Doom, really, I thought he would make it
all the way to the finals, so. I thought so too,
but at least. At least we do have some Marvel
representation here. It's just on the wrong side
of the bracket So we'll have to see how this
all pans out I wasn't really surprised that the
Joker took out Captain Pollution I was surprised
that it was a blowout So there is that So this
round this is the first time we've ever done
something like this, but it's a free -for -all
of a five person battle and It's between the
Mandarin Dark Phoenix Dark Cat Skull Master in
Apocalypse all big bads all dark and some of
them have magical powers actually most of them
have that so Who wants to go first? So going
with Mandarin and Dark Phoenix Are those the
two that you're you're pining for or are you
just saying? Yeah looking yeah, so I mean Dark
Phoenix is kind of Yeah, I mean, power level
was probably unsurpassed by anyone on here. We
questionably sell on the other side of the bracket,
but I think if any, she's been to me like the
person to win it since the beginning, and I still
feel that way. Okay. Yeah. From this side, it
would be, with her, the issue is the unpredictability.
She could just... decide she doesn't want to
fight or thinks it's insignificant and leave.
Which could be interesting. Yeah. I would probably
go with Apocalypse. At least as the forerunner.
Just based on what's there. Because what? Looking
at the bracket, what? Three people move on to
the next round. Yep. Is that what happens? Yep
Then I would go probably Phoenix Apocalypse The
Mandarin Okay Part partially because I don't
think I know the other two. Okay. Well dirt cat
just to kind of to re -preface some of the characters,
Dark Cat. He's basically just a glorified, heavyweight
gangster that's intelligent, but for the most
part makes people do his dirty work for him.
Skull Master is from Mighty Max. He's from...
His powers are... He's voiced by Tim Curry. His
powers are... He controls this soul stone and
He wants to kind of control time as well, which
is why he's such a big bad in the series but
he does have power over summoning different villains
of just kind of teleportation of He's he's got
all these mystical dark magic powers, so He's
kind of a force to be reckoned with too, but
I don't know how he would fare against See him
in the the Mandarin could possibly go toe -to
-toe, but I don't know the extent of the Mandarin's
powers Whereas like I was gonna say he I don't
think he stacks up to wait he doesn't to Dark
Phoenix No, and not apocalypse either And dark
cat I think it's gonna be the automatic lose
in this round Just because he has no power to
go up against any of these other four Yeah, I
mean the Mandarin's rings are thinking I believe
if you go up going off the the cartoon We're
it, you know alien technology and you're looking
at someone like apocalypse That's the same thing
with his, you know his armor, but celestial.
Let's just like his pretty intense alien technology
as you can get So I like I great Dark Hawk. I
mean he looks cool as a villain But he's kind
of I think he's a little bit out of his league
with some of these other characters So we can
all pretty much agree that it's gonna be the
Marvel villains that kind of push on to the semi
-finals then Yeah Yeah, that's that's kind of
who I have in mind for the the moving on to the
next round it's it's when it gets to the The
the finale of the the team battles because it'll
be a two -on -two of both sides of the bracket
So it's it's figuring out who's gonna get tanked
in the next round to go on so but yeah I definitely
see Dark Cat going out and I think it's gonna
be kind of a toss -up between either familiarity
or the power levels of of Mandarin and Skull
Master I pretty much think that Dark Phoenix
and Apocalypse will move on if not only the semi
-finals to the finale as well. So do we want
to move onto the other side of the bracket, which
is a bit more questionable and a bit more diverse
in that we don't have a clue who may take away
certain aspects? Yeah, because I think what you'll
see too with this side, I think Left side certainly
has the power and but I think the right side
has a lot of the popularity When you look at
some of these characters, like yeah the Joker
you know putting Joker against Phoenix That's
an easy easy win for Phoenix. But as we as we
know when it comes to anything of this nature
Popularity helps you a great deal and a Joker
is unpredictable. So and I mean obviously on
the side we have someone like cell who was like
immensely Powerful just because any character
in the universe of Dragon Ball Z I mean they
could who knows he you know could you can match
that of the Phoenix? But you know his craziness
It's wonder it you wonder how that works when
you're going against additionally crazy people
like a Megatron or something like that Does it
have the same impact as it does on a Batman?
that's where maybe he Would not be as formidable
as some of these others If you're even if you're
going by power you I would almost think Megatron's
out because he's a construct he doesn't have
some sort of celestial power or You know what
I mean? Like he's just Technically, he's a robot,
right? There's not Anything that makes him remarkable
and you know, he doesn't have like magic. He
doesn't have that sort of thing But in the same
token then you could almost argue that Anyone
but sell on this side wouldn't win because even
sell is yeah in a dream. Yeah Yeah, yeah But
if we're going popularity wise You'd almost have
to go. Oh what? You three get to move forward.
You'd almost have to go Joker Then Megatron then
it's a toss -up probably between Cobra Commander
and Cell. This is one that's kind of tricky for
me because Ink does have the almost clay face
ability of being able to reshape and to kind
of infiltrate things. However, she could be destroyed
in any number of ways from the opposite side.
Kind of going about it Megatron has the intelligence
to get past that the Joker is probably the only
crazy person enough to come up with some kind
of a chemical concoction to take her out This
version of Cobra commander, it's kind of hit
or miss like if it was the 80s Cobra commander
It's a little bit different, but I mean it's
a continuation of the same character. However.
Oh Yeah, I forgot 90s. This is the 90s Cobra
commander. Okay. Yeah, then he's out Where his
biggest thing was joining forces against pollution
and And and having a rock band to take over the
world so So like I almost see him as being the
first one out Just on that alone because he was
never right after he became a man again Despite
my like for the armor and I almost think that
it's gonna be between you have the this of these
this crazy intelligence of Megatron you have
the sheer power and energy of cell and then you
have the chaos and and intelligence and Insanity
of the Joker and then you kind of have like the
best of all of it kind of playing against each
other because And the only reason I think that
the Joker not only popularity, but he almost
took out Part of the Justice League and Justice
League Unlimited he'd almost took out bat or
Superman in the Batman Superman movie animated
and Batman was the only reason it didn't happen
was because he got the the kryptonite away from
the Joker and So I mean there's there's multiple
reasons why any of these people could make it
out of the next round However, I think it's gonna
be those three Yeah, I mean The fact that Cobra
Commander beat Dr. Doom, which I know Dr. Doom
is a pretty popular character in his own right,
it makes me wonder if he's going to be that...
Every kind of contest of this nature always has
that person who keeps moving forward when they
probably should have been kicked out the first
round. I feel like that might beat Cobra Commander
when it comes to this tournament. I think the
right thing would be probably a Phoenix Cell
head -to -head final matchup, but my guesses
are probably not gonna get that. But we'll see.
I mean, people could surprise us. Yeah, I mean,
I would love to see, as far as the team battle
versus, I would love to see power against robot,
but that's just... personal bias because I'm
a fan of Beast Wars and of Dragon Ball Z. I don't
see the Joker really stacking up against Apocalypse
or Dark Phoenix. Maybe the Mandarin, but that
would be as far as I would push it in that triumvirate
over there. But I don't see Ink or Cobra Commander
going on beyond this round. And if they did make
it to the semi -finals, I don't. don't know what
that would do to the lineup, but It would be
so unpredictable at that point So is this how
we we think that the the lineup is going to go
from? This point on I think so. I think when
you're getting down To the groupings you're gonna
get a little bit. It's It's less about like who
can beat who and more like I like that character
So or maybe that's maybe that's not right. Maybe
when if it's not just simply Person against person
people might look at it a little bit differently.
So the fact that we I think that could Add a
little bit of a different element compared to
the previous round. So Yeah, and you may just
who knows there could be a whole bunch of listeners
that are super fans of one person And they're
gonna vote them in no matter what Yeah, I could
definitely see that that coming into play the
voting for the next round just because And all
the way through to the finale just because people
have their preferences which a lot of these characters
were pretty Solid or were known or at least iconic
in some way in the 90s even if they were less
known They were from a lot of the the 90s programming.
It's just been kind of surprising to see which
ones got kicked out early Of some of that that
first round some of them not so surprising but
especially with round two the ones that that
Out of some of them that made it through were
a little bit surprising on on the one side of
the bracket So yeah, I definitely think that
we're gonna end up with with a power battle by
the end of it of popularity and possibly some
of it being the the brawn of them, but And their
their power, but I think it's gonna be a lot
of the the popularity by the end. I Mean, I think
we do have some like ink who has gotten this
far and you think like You know like she wouldn't
she's one that actually I know there's a lot
of Batman Beyond fans So there actually may be
a lot more fans to that character than we realize
I mean she did beat like, you know Koopa, which
is not the biggest thing in the world, but there's
a lot of Mario fans He's probably one of the
most popular cartoon villains characters and
video games so she may be a wild card to kind
of keep in mind that she may end up going a lot
farther than we think so I think we'll call that
a night on the on the recording you guys be sure
to voice your opinion in the comments and in
the voting booths and let us know who's going
under the next round there will be two polls
in there for the semi -finals so we can knock
them out in one round and then we'll come back
for the the surprise team battles and figure
out how we think that's gonna come out to play
so I have been Steve Megatron Phillips and joining
me this this time have been movie revolt Dan
Alex and how can the folks get a hold of you
on the social medias I am on Twitter at movie
revolt I'm on Twitter at at gravy moose And I'm
at SCP -21, so until next time, unleash the geek
in you.
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