Transformers Classics Volumes 6-7 Review

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Skybound. Yeah, all right. So we're talking about

Marvel Comics. IDW Publishing is reprinting a

Marvel Comics Transformers Classics The U .S.

run. This is volumes six and seven tonight. So

we have got a fully loaded night. But as always,

we will just give you our half ass opinions.

Because that's how we roll. That's right. Whereas

Optimus Prime would say Autobots transform and

roll out. Autobots roll out. So volume six, the

trade, the collected edition cover from IDW has

Blitzwing on it. G1 Blitzwing, very, very cool.

In volume six, it collects issues 65 through

76, which were published April of 1990 through

March of 1991. Wow, there's almost a whole year's

worth of comics in here. Holy crap. And as always

for the creative original series edited done

by Don daily and Rob to car cover art by guido

guini on the on the idw stuff, uh, obviously

bob buddianski On the writing actually no not

bob buddianski. It's simon firman now. That's

right. I can remember that simon firman is It

definitely gets a little bit better in some areas

and not so much in others. So Yeah And the art

changes Yeah, yeah, they are changes well because

so that's this crazy Andrew Wildman joined with

Simon Furman Yep Which they are a great team

they are and they I mean eventually we'll have

to do the the return of the g1 You know issue

81 through 100. Oh, yeah, but not today Not today

not next year. Who knows if it'll be in two years

that we do that. It's gonna be a while There's

so many other things we got sky bounds new series

because sky bound entertainment under image comics

has the transformers license now and Transformers

number one was pretty damn good. I'll have to

check it out when I can get my hands on it Yeah

Yeah, we'll figure that out. Yeah, I did a I

did a Matrix Prime YouTube thing with Jesse for

his his YouTube channel so Because yeah, the

pullback has been in flux lately and I was just

like yeah Let's just do it on your thing and

just make it a part of your thing So the problem

that I have with this trade is that parts four

and five of the matrix quests start this off

and By the end of part three, I just didn't care

Checked out Uh -huh. Like, just get the matrix

back to the person it's supposed to be at and

then we'll go from there. Put it in the prime.

Nope. Not the red truck one. He's dead. Put it

in the one true prime. No. You and your blasphemy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, at least I'm not a Cryotech

fan. I don't like cryo tag. I know you but that's

my point instead of being a Megatron fan at least

something like cuz I'm not an optimist fan I'm

a rather this fan at least another cryo tech

fan At least I go with the right Predacon So,

yeah, where do we want to begin with this cuz

matrix quest Well, it starts out with the cover

Which looks like aliens and, uh, yeah. Yeah.

Has Grimlock found the Matrix, or has it found

him? It's found him. And then, uh, it shows Prime's,

you know, dead body in the creation matrix. Calling

to the beasts. Yeah. It's the call of the primitives

that showed it better. Yeah, so they show Thunderwing

and various others, which I never cared for the

Thunderwing. When when I was collecting these

because it was you know ages ago and yeah these

came out and either late 80s early 90s something

but I Loathed the matrix quest Absolutely hated

it. I hated Thunderwing. I didn't like night

be It's cool. I like night beat. He's it's not

often you have a cybertron. Okay outside of prowl.

It's not often you see a Cybertronian cop No,

I mean well you get a minute in he's more of

a detective than a cop Well the same thing you

have to come up into the ranks, but yeah true

But Prowl was more of a you know street cop and

yeah Nightbeat was more of your detective like

undercover. Yep. Yep. Yep I Will say I do like

this art as much as I don't care about the story

for the matrix quest that this art is really

damn good That was something that I enjoyed with

Andrew Wildman taking over. Yep just I liked

The detail I liked, you know, yes, there were

aspects that had just colors There were aspects

that had you know, kind of more emotion in their

face. And you'll get to see more of that as this

goes. Yeah. And that's what I like about these

last 20 or so issues is that because the artists

constantly are changing and even though for the

most part, it's still reliant on the same five,

six or seven colors, it doesn't feel like the

earlier issues felt where it's just like, Same

color, story's okay, get rid of the humans, but

the story's okay. And now it's almost like a

reverse of that, where I don't give a, at least

for these first two issues, I don't give a crap

about the damn story, but I love the art, because

the art's really cool. One of my favorite moments

is, you know, you have Jazz, Bumblebee, and Grimlock,

and they're pretenders, and you know, Thunderwing

is a pretender, and Grimlock gets fed up, gets

out of his... armor and goes Thank you tough

Decepticon leader me Grimlock me eat Decepticon

leaders for breakfast and then he goes you amuse

me Grimlock, but that He's like, you know, he's

like is all and then throws him, you know just

takes him out Yeah, and then Thunderwing takes

out the pretender shells Causing pain to bumblebee

and everybody else You know, absolutely Thunderwing

is basically sniffing out the matrix almost like

Nemesis Prime or like Unicronus Rodimus Unicronus.

Yeah. Yep. I just it it gets really weird and

I'm not a huge fan of it, but I like that Prime

is kind of involved with this, but he's a Power

Master. Mm -hmm. Yeah, I love that they use Power

Master Optimus in the comics. I think that's

great. That's awesome. I think if they were gonna

bring him back in G1, they should have gone that

route. Oh, 100%. Give him an upgrade, I mean.

Yep. He's not your same Autobot. I'm Emmy Kennedy

reporting for the Audubon City News. I'm you

with Paramaster Optimus Prime. What's all this

about Tommy? I have to interview someone important

for the Autobot City News, and you're the most

important person her robot I know. Okay, what

would you like me to tell you? Tell us the real

scoop, the behind the scenes super -super story

of how you came back from the dead. Well, it

all began in the outer reaches of the galaxy.

The Autobots, led by Rodimus Prime, were being

chased by the Decepticon. Instead, they gave

him crappy ACOM colors in the rebirth. I know

I was like, oh for crying out loud Optimus Prime

was never that white. No And then and then we

get to you know, the next issue Mm -hmm Thunder

we all know crimes lights out. Yeah, and then

unicorn. Yeah showing different dimensions and

Galvatron and one and yeah, that was cool showing

the different dimensions. That was really cool

And I think that's probably kind of where they

got the idea for War for Cybertron. But in part

of War for Cybertron with Galvatron and the whole

time travel thing, maybe it was from here. Again,

I don't want to speak for anybody who worked

on War for Cybertron. Now that I'm reading this,

it makes perfect sense where they got it from.

Because Galvatron kind of struck out on his own

to do his own agenda and undermine Unicron. Yep.

Even at the point of threatening to destroy his

past self. Yep. Which even happens in this. Yeah.

Yeah, it does and I that was the one thing I

enjoyed about and we've already talked about

that at length We're not gonna rehash it here

folks, but that was one thing I did enjoy about

the war for Cybertron Storyline was the whole

Galvatron coming back from the past or from the

future or whatever the hell the whole time travel

stuff I really did enjoy that and plus it is

a classic purple Galvatron. So of course, I'm

gonna enjoy it I love that Starscream comes back.

Mm -hmm. Yep, Starscream comes back and starts

creating all kinds of chaos like always. And

Thunderwing, yeah. I could be, and I'm sure I'm

gonna piss off a lot of Transformers fans. He

seems like a poor man's bludgeon. He was. And

then they bring Bludgeon again after this point

to be a poor man's Thunderwing. So they're twinsies,

yay! Yeah. And I love the end of this issue where

there's been enough killing for one day, we surrender

and we accept. What a dark day. Ten or more injured,

three deactivated, and we lost the Matrix. True,

Hot Rod, but perhaps not all is as bleak as it

is foreseen. We have faced the dark side of our

own souls today and triumphed. What happened

to the Matrix could happen to any of us. And

then we go into the next issue. The war is over

and the Decepticons have won with Galvatron.

Yep. Don't know. I like this paint deco of Galvatron.

Yeah, I do too. It's very cool He looks very

I like that cover. Yeah, he does. I like that

cover That's a good I even liked a lot of the

covers, but that's a damn good cover Well, that's

that's a testament to Wildman. Oh, absolutely

His stuff got really good. I did a lot of his

covers from here on out are really like stellar

Lot of this stuff that came before it's kind

of hit or miss like a lot more miss than hit

Yeah, and a lot of this stuff is more hit than

miss so Because the colors are all They complement

and not that they didn't compliment each other

before they really like whatever it is what it

is we've already hashed it out all the other

episodes of this but Like looking at this first

page where you see the sea, you see Galvatron

popping up out of the sea, like from that first

panel to the second, third, and those four panels,

that's the way you do color in a story like this,

where you have the sky be a pinkish -purple with

the grayish -blackish type cloud lines, and then

you add the water in, then you add Galvatron

in, and it's like, oh, okay. That's cool And

then this entire issue takes place in the year

2009 Different timeline right? Yeah, we're coming

has succeeded and he's like brutally destroyed

Rodimus yeah Like ripped his head off and gutted

him like a fish and then blew away Scourge's

cyclonus blew away cup and blur Then you've got

old -school prowl and jazz hanging out. Yeah,

I was gonna say at least jazz is still around

Yeah, and prowl. Yeah, then you have inferno

and power glide and Power glide doesn't you have

some Astoria to go save? But yeah, then you I

it was nice seeing scourge and cyclone us. Yeah,

that was cool And then you have get away who's

you know in the forest? Yep Among other Autobots

and stuff so I mean it was It was definitely

interesting seeing this one because you get a

lot of old -school Autobots still stuck in the

fray Yep, that and the Decepticons to because

there's laser beak. Mm -hmm This story I liked

I really I like the story I like the art again,

it's a alternate reality story where, like you

said, the Decepticons have won, the Decepticons

have taken over. Kind of thing. And then Jazz

gets ripped in half and Spike wins. Yeah. Poor

Jazz. He's always getting ripped in half. And

then it's funny that you get Hook Line and Sinker

coming for Galvatron. Yep. And their servants

a unicorn Yeah, well, you know, I mean he pissed

him off. So he's gonna send his servants after

him and He says I served him faithfully he gave

me earth different unicorn. Oh Yeah, that's the

tricky thing about these multiple universe things

it's different events happen in different ones

Then the Autobots in the Humans Take Back Cybertron.

Yeah. And then next issue, Circuit Breaker, GB

Blackrock, Starscream. There's a new side in

the Autobot Decepticon war. The human. Yeah.

Again, Blackrock was OK. The rest of this crew.

I. One, I don't like the art. For this episode

or this issue issue. Yeah, you get Starscream

and he's kind of Dipping in here a little bit

But overall like I just I don't care for this

issue at all Like whatever the humans showed

up in this much capacity. I just was like, all

right barf, please like yep and And the savior

at the end is shockwave Because that's the only

logical choice, right? He says, why do you bother

with petty revenge when together the two of us

can rule the Decepticons and then two worlds?

Shockwave, but you're dead, aren't you? And then

the next issue just looks cool on the cover.

Oh, yeah. Question mark. Grimlock. Yeah, the

gathering storm. Dun, dun, dun. Ravage Shockwave

and Starscream, Galvatron, Optimus Prime, Grimlock,

and the center is the question mark. Yeah, this

one was cool. Well, I mean, you have multiple

Autobots, you have multiple Decepticons, you

have just crazy odds all over the place. Yeah,

and it all looks great, too. Even though Grimlock's

face is more blue than what he was colored in

the cartoon like that to me. That's Grimlock

I know that that's Grimlock, you know, I can

hear Greg Berger coming out of his face The same

thing with with Optimus Prime. He's a little

bit more red here than I would like red like

there says the thing like you gotta balance the

I don't know it so it's Paige Page a hundred

Where optimus has the thought look at them they

laugh they joke and though it does my fuel pumps

good to see my warriors happy like that design

it just I don't know like first of all his eyes

were never read and Second of all, there's not

enough definition and they cut off his his his

ears his his smoke stack antennas or maybe they

just move them to his shoulders, but like I'm

pretty sure no like the smoke stacks that you're

talking about those those Antennas that are on

the side of his head. Yeah, they're underneath

that uh Enclosure around his head. Oh Okay, he

has a special helmet when he's power master.

Oh Okay, that's right. This is I no wonder he

looks so Look, I only remember seeing Power Master

Optimus Prime as the toy, and whatever. I loved

Power Master Prime. 100%. He was the coolest,

he still is. And then we get Unicron. Unicron!

Unicron, answer me! Yeah, and then... Yeah, then

they... Explain Yeah, he's like guys you speak

of a future that may or may not come to pass

Unicron I may or may not become Yeah And then

he's like no I serve you more no more die ha

ha ha would you care to reconsider and then he

transforms Or not transforms but like electrocutes

him. Yeah He's like you will serve me shut your

face Then we get Grimlock trying to resuscitate

the DinoBots, and Cup's like, nuh -uh. Then Grimlock

pulls a silver bolt here, clobbers Cup, knocks

him out, and then he stows away all of his DinoBots.

Yeah. Man. Wait, what's he putting him into?

It's like a stasis pod. Okay. For a second there,

I thought it was Prime's trailer. Then we get

Scorponok and Ratbat, two of the different leaders

that have been Decepticon leaders here in this

comic series. And Starscream. And Shockwave.

And Ravage. Yeah, so I mean, they've all had

a turn at leadership and they all sucked at it.

Yeah. And then. Grimlock stole stole a shuttle.

And headed out the night beats on a special assignment

from Prime. And then we get a really weird looking

red red ratchet Megatron. Yeah, okay, that's

all right because they they jumped into a Transdimensional

portal right right as the arc was like damaged

or destroyed or blown up at a certain point,

right? And so it mixed them together in a weird

way. Yeah, I Was like looking at this page earlier

and I wasn't wait a minute the hill and then

I noticed the chevron and I noticed the fusion

can and I was like, oh it's Mega ratchet or ratchet

Ron or whatever And I love at the bottom. Don't

you dare miss the next issue the price of life

Yeah, this one was kind of creepy a little bit

the price of life. Well, just yeah Yeah, it's

very very monstrous. But again, like we've come

so far from some of this stuff where And again,

this is what I think Simon does well is, yes,

he gave us the Matrix Quest, which is fine. It

is what it is. But, you know, we get here and

we get back to the point of, oh, this is what

happened to Megatron and Ratchet. We left them

off at some point and now hopefully here we will

find out what's going on with them. And then,

uh, Nightbeat basically mentions how he found

them and then they're damaged and after they

hit Prime and Brad, uh, Cup shot him. Yep. Then

he's just kind of wandering around the Ark aimlessly.

Yep. Until... Oh, oh, yous, yous guys, what are

yous guys doing over there? Until, sorry. And

then we get to Grimlock on a dump. Yep. So for

those that, and I know hopefully a lot of people

listening to All Things Transformers and The

Pull Bag know this already, Simon Furman, huge

DinoBot fan. Oh yeah. Huge DinoBot fan. He gave

Grimlock a pretty big arc. which is more than

fine. I like Grimlock, like I said before. Give

him a redemptive arc though, because he was kind

of a dirtbag in the beginning of this series.

Absolutely. Grimlock King, you not tell Grimlock

what to do, you not allowed to leave the base.

We do war crimes. What a dump. Now he's more

intelligent and he's looking out for his Dinobots

first. Yep. Yep. So he's talking, oh he's talking,

that's right, he's on Earth. What a dump. Thought

Earth was the pits, but this place got it beat.

Me dirty, corroded, tired, and very kicked off.

I love this art panel. This art panel of the

character for Grimlock is so, he's got the gold

sword, he's got, you know, all his colors in

the right way that they're supposed to be. Oh

yeah, he just looks good. Looks so good. Absolutely

love the art of this page. And on the next page

where we get the top left panel where he's cursing,

where dumb guy'd go now? Paid enough for him.

Expect good service. Great like in profile face,

you know, upper torso shot of, and again, colors

and shading. Finally, we actually have colors,

shading, and definition. If this was Grimlock

40 issues ago, he'd be a yellow blob with no

nothing. Just what it is. And then Cup chews

out Prime for surrendering to Scorponok and for

allowing the monstrosity to go through and beat

the crap out of the Autobots as he goes through.

Yeah, and then cups having second thoughts about

it, but prime just goes in and Destroys the fusion

cannon and He does just starts ripping him apart

and then right as he's about to be merciless

He He can't do it and then ratchet moves the

gun to his head and says, please Yep And this

is an interesting commentary, I think You know

the whole Put them out of their misery kind of

thing Because they're both misery like Megatron

and ratchet are melded together their existence

is not a happy one But it also speaks to kind

of like, you know Just crimes you murder should

be nothing. Anyone wants to do it all whatsoever

and Ratchet if he could have probably would have

found a way himself to basically commit suicide

Which it is what it is, it's a very heavy thing

to you know, I I talk about Suicide prevention

all the time I was not expecting that to kind

of come up here at all, but it does and It's

you know That is what it is. But optimists, you

know does you know, like like cup says would

you want to live if you were like that I can't

tell you guys It's you know, I've told you about

this natural the audience about this too but

30 years ago there were plenty of times in 1994.

We're not to 30 years ago directly But we're

a few months away from it being 30 years since

1994 There were a couple of times in 94 that

I did not want to be where I was because of life

circumstances and everything else because of

the disabilities and all that so I I Understand

it. Yeah The next panel, oh my god, what the

hell? Okay. Grimlock going surfing? No, Optimus

Prime, where, oh no, this is the panel where

he's beating them, okay. All I see is Optimus

saying, be resolute, and all I can think of is,

where's Duke and Cobra Commander when you really

need them? Oh my god. Yeah, so Grimlock goes,

Grimlock surfing in the USA. That's wild, Grimlock.

Well, and then we get Grimlock getting attacked

by what looks like some kind of a shark decon

thing. Yep. And then there's this other robot

that goes, welcome. Welcome to the island of

spilled tears in the land of crushed illusions

and broken promises. And Grimlock goes, hmm.

You sure lousy tourist guard And then You know,

he's like, let me guess none must feed right

me getting the hang of this now We supposed it

would be too much to ask. We don't fight He says

fight me. Oh, no, I wish to warn you about nucleon

Yeah, he's like it, you know affects what will

it do to transformers the Grimlock's like don't

care mega strong. Yeah You know, he says they

didn't cure me they brought me back to life so

I could die again And then he's just talking

about it with the the nucleon and then Grimlock's

like, you know what don't care Yeah So and then

so he tested it on himself. Yeah The Nucleon

looks like a really, really bad design of T -Bob

from Mask. The face. Oh, God. And then Grimlock

gets electrified with it. And then you see Prime

with Ratchet Megatron, you know, might be able

to save Ratchet's life. They can separate them.

Yeah. It's first aid sitting there screwing around

with them. You know, like on a molecular level,

they can separate them. One cannot survive without

the other. Do you still wish me to proceed with

the operation? Do it. Yep, yep, yep. And I love

this. I love this at the bottom. Next month.

The issue you thought you'd never see, heck,

we didn't think we'd see it either, and we produced

it. Surrender. I love that. And then the art

for the next one's really good. Yeah, it is.

That cover. The rain and just everything. And

it's so hard to use rain, but it works, and it...

He's... I wasn't really bitching earlier about

this, but I had mentioned about his red eyes.

Here it works. Everywhere else in the comics

so far, Optimus having red eyes has not worked

for me. On this cover, it works. So where are

we starting here? We're starting on Cybertron,

home of the Transformers. That's your cue. Yeah,

and then we get the Autobot shooting and fighting

and you could see Cup in green and Prime without

his battle suit. And Prime's not wearing his

armor. Nope. And then when he gets off the ship.

Because like at the beginning it's showing the

beginning of the war where he's like never surrender

Uh -huh, and then he's getting off the ship and

he's like I surrender Yes, I surrender and then

Scorponok's like I accept And cups refusing to

stop yeah cup is like no we don't surrender what

are you doing optimus get off your taster? and

primes trying to Enlighten Scorponok, you know,

but Unicron and Thunderwing and everything else

and he's like don't lecture me. I know of Unicron

legend told me here Yeah And then you see him

take off his head and become Zarek Zarek. Yeah

and Mean I get it. It's cool. It's Weird though

because I'm so used to Zarek being this green

-faced green -haired Design from the cartoon

Because you got to remember folks this first

time I've ever read this stuff. Yeah, they made

oh, yeah That alien race instead of green. They're

just humanoid. They're just humanoid. Yeah, that's

fine I get it. You got to simplify for the for

the comic oh the next the next page oh man the

fourth panel down all I can see is color forms

we must take command where it's uh shockwave

and it's like magenta purple red yellow red again

red lighter red orange whatever I'm like look

color forms everybody you can buy yours today

at Benny's Yeah, we're back to a single color

for bots now. That's, I don't like that. Like

all these bots that are in these panels, like,

I mean, the color for the multicolor thing is

fine, but like the next page, like I can't tell

Bumblebee from whomever. And I don't even think

Bumblebee's there. No. Yeah, but they're all

either silver and white. It's all Decepticons.

Yeah, it's all Decepticons, and that's fine,

but come on, man. Give them definition. Don't

just paint them gold. You can't just paint everything

gold. Megatron isn't gold member, don't you know?

Then you get Prime hanging out with Soundwave.

Love this. Locked up. Mm -hmm. Love it. Love

it and Then they cut to Galvatron just blowing

the crap out of Cybertron Yeah, that's not good

and Emma right czar on Was he an IDW? Emma right

czar on yeah, let me look here He's kind of like

a guardian, you know on the planet and You know.

You mean Zarek? No, this is Zaron. Is he Decepticon?

Autobot. Oh, Autobot. Let's see here. This guy

is not recognized as the name. He's kind of like

one of the accolades of Primus. Yes, he was good.

I was going to say and then, you know, you got

Galvatron with hook line and sinker and they're

trying to capture him and kill him. Okay In the

2005 IDW continuity first appearance last day

of the record is number two mentioned number

five cameo transformers volume one number 22

full appearance Advocate Zaron was one of the

Autobots chief legal. It was always a lawyer.

Okay he then went on to be in the 2019 rebooted

IDW continuity. He was in tread and circuits

number two as official consult to the Senate.

So yes, he was in IDW. Then you get Prime after

all of that. And he throws Soundwave into a wall,

knocking him unconscious, rips the doors off,

and then frees the Autobots. And my favorite

part about freeing the Autobots is we get to

a Really really really could like I almost want

you to make this the the banner art The hot rod

driving in like a wrecking ball with the transform

grabbing Zarek What shall we dance? Like yeah

Then he's holding him like a stick figure in

front of a shield I love that he's like You know

then he's like before I pull the arms and legs

off this puny flesh creature, I think not He's

like, hey not bad No, she's your sword bludgeon

now And then cup we're just taking nap yeah I

will say on that same page where Hot Rod has

Zarek, where Cup says that line, I think this

is the first time I've seen his alt mode where

it actually looks like his alt mode, like the

windshield, the rest. It's not the exact colors

from the animation, but it's close enough where

it's like, oh right, Cup. Nice to finally see

your alt mode in the right design. So then we

get to, let's see here, we get Optimus Prime

and Zarek talking. There for a moment, we trusted

each other. We must build on that, work together.

The Chaos Bringer. Is real, Zarek. It will not

stop until it has destroyed Primus' children

and whatever we call ourselves. We are all Primus'

children. Dun dun dun. Mm -hmm. Yep. Yeah, I

just can't take Zarek seriously looking like

a human. Like, I wish he had his robot head on

all the time. But he and Optimus finally shake

hands, claws, whatever. Yep. They get to that

point where they're like, all right, we're going

to team up. And, uh, and then, uh, the other

Decepticon Civil War's kicked in. Yep. Shockwave.

And then you see Zaron, sadly, fighting from

Galvatron. who looks spectacular in the sewer.

Yeah, I was like, hey Galvatron, you see any

turtles down there? Tonight I dine on turtle

soup. And the next issue, the wrath of Galvatron,

the return of the Dinobots, the coming of Unicron,

all this and Civil War too. This cover I'm not

a fan of. No, I mean, it's pretty bland. Yeah.

Yeah, I And I know Wildman did the art in this

but like man it just It feels like we're going

backwards I don't want to go backwards. I want

to go forwards Going back in time, you know And

I guess I should blame Steven Baskerville and

Neil Yamatov more than Wildman because they were

the inkers and colorist respectively. I need

to see who was the... I believe it was them two

on the... Yeah, it was those two on the last

issue too. Interesting. So maybe there was another

bland ass colors. At least on this first page,

like it's a yellow sky. It's a brownish, tannish,

dirt -like color with some water around it. I

mean, I get it. All the bots are in shadow or

in whatever. They're not defined, which is fine

because it's not a close -up shot, but I hope

this is not a... Oh, it is. Hello, Blackface

Starscream. How are you today? Okay, technically

his face is bluish, but whatever. Well, then

we get Scorponok, you know, grabbing Starscream,

going, oh, this is how it is. You want to fight?

You've got it. Mm -hmm. Then Prime is damaged,

you know, and Autobots are damaged, and... Yep.

And then it has to be relied upon the ugly humans

to, to, to save the day. Not really, but, um,

I do love every time Ravage shows up because

he's always been, I mean, Ravage's design usually

always has black and silver, but I don't mind

it with the, like the, the blackish bluish with

the lighter blue outlines on that page. between

Zarek and when he goes to attack Zarek. But I

like that design on Ravage. I don't think there's

any Ravage design I don't like in any iteration.

Squirpanoch single -handedly taking out everybody.

Yeah, pretty much. And then we cut back to Cybertron.

Yep. With Galvatron doing his Here's Johnny line.

There you are, mm -hmm finished running good

now you can I'll die like an Autobot No, I'd

wanted you dead you would long ago have embraced

your maker I simply want to know how to kill

Unicron and then he's like I'm running out of

time help me Yeah, you want to know how to kill

Unicron go ask Optimus Prime. He's got a thing

in his chest. It'll do the job right quick Yep,

you know, it's that circle green circle thing

They'd spent five issues looking for and I will

say that as I'm as we're going through this issue

Even though the background colors are kind of

like bland because it's supposed to be daytime

It's supposed to be lighter colors in the background

the character colors now that we're they look

it looks much better Than I initially thought

it was going to like any time we have shockwave

or the close -up on nightbeat here When they

get to New Jersey That's that looks nice close

up on shockwave on the next panel where he says

oh something moved, but what? That would be Scorponok

and then we cut through to prime by the end of

this one stopping shockwave and Scorponok's battle

only to have the neonites show up. Yep, the neonites

show up All right, the neonites, I mean, I know

I know they're humans but super humans I Yeah,

I'd rather Mega Man And me too next up unicorns

on the last leg of his journey to Cybertron and

that means that it's just about everyone is out

of time Yeah, I'm done And then the next issue

Covers kind of lame transformers disappearing

in the human standing there And then you get

Galvatron with like spit -faced fire. Yep That

cover would be so much better if the humans weren't

standing there because it's like hey, look, we're

all ultra Magnus Because you know, he's white

repainted optimus prime and then we get Zaron

standing in front of Primus. Yep with Galvatron

standing there and He's basically pleading and

Galvatron's throwing a tantrum. Of course Galvatron's

throwing a tantrum. He's mental. And then Unicron

is like, Galvatron's gone beyond my sight, beyond

my reach. What has he found? What does he plan?

I must know. This is not the Galvatron you are

looking for. Yep. And he's like, ah, there's

nothing they can do to stop me. And everybody's

fighting and, you know, the humans come in and

try and attack. It does some level succeed against

Scorponok. Shockwave just sits down, lets it

happen. Yep. Until Shockwave shoots Circuit Breaker.

Yeah, Galvatron's always yelling. Yep. This Galvatron,

anyway. Yep Well and the cartoon one too, I mean

he always yelled because he was crazy The shot

of Galvatron where he says the true meaning of

power It looks like the reformatted colors So

the when they you know this because we all know

this Hasbro loves to Do as much with one mold

as they can when they repainted the gal with

the war for Cybertron Kingdom Galvatron They

did an exclusive Reformatted all purple colors

and that's what this reminds me of because the

figures like sitting right next to me on my desk

here So that's cool and then rap at or is that

rap at rap at or mount mind wipe? No, it's mind

wipe mind wipe. Yeah They're both bats, folks.

And it's after 11 p .m. In Manhattan, Optimus

Prime is like, whoa, because he gets blasted.

By Circuit Breaker. Yep. Traitorous humans. Yep.

And then she attempts to take out Shockwave.

Yep. Only to fail. Oh, yeah. Very much so. Thank

God. And then she falls and Prime and Scorponok

call a ceasefire. And then we get to Galvatron

back on Cybertron and Zaron woke up Primus in

speaking through him and Galvatron has managed

to break the fourth wall as he calls for Primus

to bring his children home. Yep. And then they're

all being transported without a second thought

yeah Then we see the creation matrix you leaving

Thunder wing we are creation matrix. We are hungry

for revenge And no no next time on this one Like

There's nothing. There's usually something at

the bottom of the, but there's nothing. In the

thing, it does say editorial note for 73, page

seven, panel four. This issue marks the first

time that the human Hector Dialonzo adopts the

code name of Dynamo as a member of the Neo Knights.

Page 16, panel one through five, circuit breaker.

recalls the damage that Decepticon Shockwave

inflicted upon her human guys as Josie Beller,

a flashback that took place in Transformers number

six, the worst of two evils. So, and then we

get to the next issue, which is issue 74, and

that cover is kinda cool. It was one of my favorites

when I got it as a kid. Yeah. It's Optimus Prime

with multiple Unicrons next to Scorponok. So

it's Transformers against the hordes of Unicron.

This cover is cool. It is very awesome. But all

these Unicrons, it just makes me think of like

Chibi Dolls. Like it's a Chibi Unicron or whatever.

Because he's supposed to be like a Planet size

not a transferring Unicron shouldn't be the same

size as Optimus Prime But I get it for the cover

and for the what they're going for. Well, I understand

lights. Yeah So and then it opens with showing

Unicron The void, you know and doing a whole

history lesson of the Transformers Yeah, which

is nice because again if you're coming into this

new back then in the 90s then you know you go

into comic shops you see the 74th issue you want

to be able to learn the history without having

to read the other 73 issues I think that might

be my favorite panel out of this lesson. Yeah

Well, then you see that Primus learned how to

trick Unicron by shoving their life and essences

into barren metal asteroids And then Unicron

figured out how to morph his instead of Primus.

But I find it funny Primus looks like Rodimus.

Yes, he does. The prodigal son returns. Well,

Rodimus was the last Prime. That's right. Oh,

that's, wait, that's a short issue. Oh, maybe

it isn't. Okay. I don't know, I'm cycling through

this and I'm like, oh, very cool, very cool,

like that, like that, wait a minute, what's that?

And then the next thing I know, we get Unicron

himself and then poof, gone. Yeah, I like the

scene that it opens up with, they're you, they're

the Transformers. And then you see all of them

in their various disrepair as he's speaking through

Zaron. And then you see one of those acolytes.

worming his way off like angry Autobot, and then

Grimlock has all of his Dinobots back online,

and then he's like, ah, my hand's locked up.

Mm -hmm. Then they pump Nucleon into every stasis

pod, including Ratchet and Megatron. Oh boy,

that can't be good. Nope. Nope. Then the human,

when Zaron leaves, he's like, ah, seems like

your god isn't interested in us mere mortals.

It would seem not. Yeah And then you see the

the acolytes, you know under underneath putting

on helmets of unicron death's optimus prime I

agree Square but I can prime have a moment. Mm

-hmm. You know if I'm gonna die, you know, I'd

prefer not to but I Will do it by your side and

then they all start cutting down the Acolytes,

Scorponok wonders, you know, oh, they're not

attacking me. They're attacking Prime. Then he's

like, well, I could let him die, but then he's

like, no, I want to take him out. And then one

of them is about to bomb Optimus Prime. Galvatron

sneaks up and shoves a grenade down his throat

and then blows his head off. And then. sets the

warning beacon for Unicron. Yep. And then Thunderwing

wakes up with the Matrix. Of course he does.

Yeah. And all the Transformers are just fighting

back and forth until Zaron shows up. And then

at the end, the last panel, we have Unicron.

Yep. Hungry and more sinister looking than he

was in the movie You're talking about the page

where it says did you miss that? Yeah. Yeah It's

the only design of the character in this comic

that is closely to what the movie design ended

up being as far as like the sides of his chest

the the arms the fingers the the things on his

stomach and The head not so much because he's

got more the Megatron helmet on than anything

else the Megatron comic helmets but as we get

into the next issue, I'm looking at this I'm

like, oh my god, there's so many versions of

Unicron they're using because On the edge of

extinction that panel that opening panel here

like that's not the same Unicron we saw earlier,

but it looks cool And then they kind of went

more with the original toy design that the toy

that never happened Pretty much. Yeah on page

258 or not 250 239 where he says and these bonds

cannot hold me like literally the shape of it

is the What the old toy was gonna be which I

think super 7 put one of those out or something

like that recently I could be wrong possibly

Yeah, super 7 does a lot of weird things And

then he blows up Bzarran. And Galvatron sees

his opportunity. Yep. And he goes to seize it.

Powers himself up. Tapping energy from Cybertron.

Die, monster, die. What? Swat. Yeah. Insignificant

worm. Yeah, just chucks him through some stuff.

Yeah He's like if you won't even provide me with

a bit of sport I shall have to simply destroy

it and then he's like Everybody starts taking

them out with cannons. Yeah, and everybody starts

firing off at him like everything This whole

panel reminds me and this is so funny reminds

me of The 18 movie from 2010 at one point when

they're cry when they're falling out of the plane

they end up in this in this tank and and Hannibal

played by Liam Neeson is like you know turn to

the turn the turret to blah blah blah and wait

and Then we get to a certain point get to a certain

point and then he's like fire Everything that's

what this is Then you have all the youngsters

making noise Oh my god, this page, man. Like,

come on, Hot Rod, yeehaw. Or yeah, what a yeah.

Well, you had NightBeat going loud, brash, and

totally brain dead. Think Primus Cymru is one

of a yeehaw blasted youth. Yep. Blasted youth.

That's hilarious. Then Unicron's back and we

got fighters fighting him. I will say Unicron

on page 247, the top panel there where he says,

yes, this is more like it. Again, it's very close

to what the movie design would end up being like,

but it's not. exactly there, but I still like

the design on that panel. That looks really good.

I think it's funny that uh, Scorponok starts

cutting away at his ankle. Yeah. Until he breathes

fire on him. Yep. And then uh, Grimlock whacks

the arc on Unicron's face. Does it drive by?

Yeah, pretty much. That's hilarious. And I think

it's funny, Prowl's like, the time since the

time since our last meeting hasn't increased

your capacity for sound tactical analysis, has

it Grimlock? You not changed either, Prowl. Still

think you hot stuff. Think you always know right.

Think to do. You think you leader. You not. You

soldier. So go fight. Kicks him out the door.

He's like, um Grimlock, what was was that wise?

I mean we've all just come out of a state close

to death reanimated by an Untested and highly

unstable form of energy. Perhaps we should Should

what have holiday put feet up and then they all

jump out Yeah, Grimlock has the best lines in

this issue Then then you see a Scorponok dying

Like his body burned to a crisp. And then Prime

mourning him. I'm really digging the story now.

I'm loving the art for this issue. It's so fun.

And I never thought I'd say that about this series.

But I've said it a few times. And then the creation

matrix shows up. It just starts sucking the energy

force out of Unicron. Yep. Which is not exactly

the most elegant way to destroy him, but it's

what they had to do in the comics. I Think it's

like no. I felt the matrix destroyed. I sense

the demise of its purity. This cannot be Mm -hmm

And then he transforms and tries to go feast

And circuit breaker I'll kill them all Well,

every single one of them, I swear, they'll pay

for this. If you're gonna do something, Prime,

do it now and make it count. All the progress

I've made towards curing Circuit Breaker is gone.

I've bought you this chance with her sanity.

I don't know how... That just... You don't wanna

sell somebody's sanity, really. That's not good.

and of course the whole thing at the end of it

is that goodness will prevail prime us and We

get a depowered circuit breaker we get Basically

the destruction of Unicron comic over that's

it wait 40 years Yep, and then prime opens it

up and he's like you must die Primus so that

all might live Then Unicron cries too much too

much too much and then goes boom Yep, but life

goes on and the story of the Transformers is

far from told Yeah, I never had issue 75. That

was one of the few that I was missing. Oh really?

Yeah Man, that was a great issue. It was yeah.

I went from 73 to 76 Oh 74 to 76. I was like

75 man, and then I never got 80. Oh no So like

I had to read them in the trades like later.

I was like crap man I was missing like I think

eight issues out of the whole series. Yeah But

yeah, I mean Overall not terrible No, and I wish

that this collected edition trade that we have

from IDW publishing I wish this stopped at 75

and 76 through 78 were in Her 76 through 80 were

in the next volume because Just looking at the

cover to 76 I don't care 75 was so amazing. I

don't care about 76 and Grimlock and these Weird

-looking demons and I tell you there's something

moving out here Well, it sure not me. The big

freeze. Do you like that prime went from fully

functional in the top left panel above the issue

number to what remains of them after the creation

matrix? Yes, that's awesome. That is so cool.

So. did you see the the bottom left part of the

cover with the water pail and the screws and

the nuts and the bolts yep are they trying to

say that they have is that they have a screw

loose because uh i don't get that one oh well

technically it would be the marvel oh but this

is still marvel yep that that technically should

be the spidey watermark Or whatever hero they

want to put. Oh, that's okay. That's interesting

They had fun with a lot of these issues doing

this if you go back and look at it Yeah, I gotta

go back and look at it because I didn't I didn't

catch that Huh interesting Yeah, uh overall volume

six I dug it I thought it was fun You see Prime

dead there, and this issue, and laying there

as a ripped apart carcass. Yeah, it gives Dark

Awakening a run for its money. And then High

Q inherits Prime's memory. Oh wow, that's cool.

He's like it's starting the change can't stop

now gotta keep block it out keep moving. Yeah

and Yeah He says it's not even just my life at

stake prime never realized neither of us did

but then how could anyone have known what binary

bonding nebulin and transformers as a power master

would eventually lead to You know, I mean little

by little and then they're all arguing who gets

to lead and Yep, Grimlock's having issues and

I Love I love man Other than the panel where

we first see ratchet and Grimlock Because Grimlock

in the close -ups of that panel just looks his

eyes his visor looks weird to me Because it's

a it's a whatever doing thing but man you get

to Like page page almost the last page page 283

Where Grimlock is standing there? Again Very

Grimlock colors. He's got the gold chest. He's

got the blackish bluish helmet with the red eyes

Very very cool The nucleon it's accelerated my

own metamorphosis, but if it happened without

prime Lord shut up IQ You got some low Q IQ.

No because there's about to be a transformation

That's true, but Grimlock has new powers, but

he can't transform. Oh Yeah He lost his transformation.

Yep dang Hi Q, I am optimus prime He it has an

exclamation point here, but it looks it's just

the way It said it looks like a question mark

Even though it is an exclamation point Yeah,

overall I dug this is that this trade there wasn't

many like I complained a little bit about the

art but Generally, I really did dig this Yeah,

this one I enjoyed. Yep. All right, folks, I

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for Transformers Classics Volume 7 from IDW Publishing,

which does collect Transformers The Marvel Years

from issue 77 to 80, which was the final issue.

It also collects the four -issue Headmaster miniseries

and, as we said, the Transformers The Movie adaptation.

As I just mentioned a moment ago, we are only

finishing up issue 77 through 80 in this podcast

episode. Issue 77, it's Ratchet and Bludgeon

or is that Thunder whatever? I think it's Bludgeon.

Yeah, it looks like Bludgeon to me too. And Exodus,

Transformers, one race of sentient mechanoids

ever divided into two warring factions. Heroic

Autobot. annual decepticon able to transform

their bodies into likenesses of vehicles machinery

and weapons these proud warriors have fulfilled

their destiny battling and defeating a malignant

force from beyond time but their victory is not

without cost and the aftershocks continue to

ripple i love the symbols on the mountain that's

cool and then the uh and then the entire government

yeah and then there's a part where mind wipe

is kind of getting a little feisty and Grimlock

chucks an oil barrel at his head he says he's

like dumb con shut up and we tell you And then

he's like, I'll kill you, Grimlock, rip your

terrier. Nope. You will sit back down. Oh, it's

fangry. You will listen. And then he's got another

one in his hand and Prowl's like, don't even

think about it, Grimlock. Yep. Yeah, it's fangry.

It's not mind wipe. Because if it was mind wipe,

he would just, you know, control Grimlock's brain.

Grimlock's brain, it's not a nice place to be.

No. Oh, man. And yes, that is definitely Bludgeon.

That is not Thunderwing. And Bludgeon says, I

demand you tell us exactly what you're planning,

what we can expect of this alliance. We want

assurances and we want them now. Boy Right there

bludgeon And then we get to more human Autobot

stuff Yeah, I Understand why humans have to be

in the Transformers folks. I just don't like

it in this comic book series because they all

suck Other than maybe one or two times spike

did some cool stuff all of the humans in these

comics suck I do like the part that um You know

we get to the glass being kicked. Yeah, you see

fangry getting tossed outside and they're like

what and then you see Grimlock walking You know

you obviously too dumb to know when just to shut

up and obey orders attacking me like that. Don't

you listen we at peace and then a piece He's

like a piece is all it'll be left to you when

i'm finished for daring to strike me You know,

and then uh bludgeon's like, all right. Well,

i'm gonna let this go And then it cuts to the

arc with Starscream and Shockwave walking by

Megatron puncturing his arm through Yeah, and

then Grimlock getting tossed against a wall and

fangry shooting him and he just keeps going like

walking right towards him. Yep, and He's like

you're like all cons fangry full of self He's

like and a lot of hot air. Yeah No, you can't

you can't and then he just punches him right

in the mouth He just punched me him right in

the mouth. Oh God. Grimlock, you are awesome.

And then the way this issue ends we get something

I never thought we would see. Megatron versus

Galvatron. Yeah. And I love the shock look on

their faces It's John was more of blind anger

and Galvatron is more of shock. Yeah But I'm

looking at these faces They're not the exact

same but they're damn. Oh, I know what it is.

It's the color reverse. Yep Galvatron has the

blue helmet with the brown face. Megatron has

the blue face with the brown helmet. That's cool!

I like that. That's awesome. Alright. Issue 78.

Transformers past and futures collide as Galvatron

battles Megatron. I wish they were still the

same guy. But I get it. The second page of this

issue. That is a really cool shot of Galvatron

on the right. After he's... change from being

Megatron into Galvatron. That's cool. Where he's

holding his cannon. Oh yeah. That is so cool.

And then he just starts punching him right in

the mouth. Punching him right in the mouth. It's

like, it is the year 1991. Yep. He says, break

myself by destroying Megatron. Like, dude, you'd

stop existing too. Yeah, don't you know? Didn't

Doc Brown teach you anything, Galvatron? You

can't go back in time and change the past or

the future or whatever. Savage circle that leads

only to madness and death. That's an awesome

page. Then we get after, you know, the scene

of Megatron and Galvatron pummeling each other.

Yep. We get Shockwave and Starscream. Then it

cuts back to more of the Cybertronian stuff and

bludgeon heading towards like their little war

worlds. Ratchet waking up. Hey, at least Ratchet

is, you know, alive and in his own body and not

a part of Megatron anymore. And then Starscream

sees Megatron on the floor when Galvatron goes

to hide. You actually have to keep him alive.

Yeah. And he goes, no, not him, not Megatron.

Ah, Mighty Megatron, it's so good to see you

again. And then they're just, and he's like,

oh, shockwave. And then Ratchet's going through

a crisis, too, until Starscream gets him awoken.

Yep, yep. Yeah, that is awesome. Love the panels

with ratchet. No, I love that. That is so cool.

Then we get back to the humans And then we go

back to Shockwave trying to kill Megatron. Yep,

and then ratchet beating the crap out of Starscream

He deserved it And then you get Galvatron finally

taking out shockwave. Mm -hmm Ooh, that's cool.

Together we could rule the galaxy! It is my destiny!

And it's funny too because, you know, they just

start both beating on Shockwave. Yep. And yeah,

it ends on the next few panels and next month,

the last Autobot. And ratchet blows up the arc

with Nucleon crash landing it back on earth again

to start the cycle all over Yeah Which kind of

comes into play in g2? That's cool. This whole

last Autobot thing like 79 and 80 I didn't have

is it like when I was getting those and so I

never knew the conclusion of this story for the

longest time I Was like what this is crap We

will find out tonight. Is that spike or is that

buster? I think it's supposed to be buster Yeah,

cuz spike has brown or dark hair buster always

had the blonde hair, but it's Well, this is spike.

Is it real? Yeah. Oh, yeah Okay Why Why has no

one come? Is it true what the authorities have

been claiming? Have they really all left Earth?

Am I the last Autobot? Oh, boy. He's just he's

literally heading to Fortress Maximus. Yeah.

Well, he and Fort Max have that that connection

thing. So, yeah, they get taken out in G2. And

then we have so much human the people get the

people away from my eyes, please And then and

then you get prime In Haikyuu's body now that

the bond is over. Oh Yeah, it's like it's merges

together the parts Becoming one whole but when

I I died the only way The process could complete

itself was in Haikyuu's body. I'm the leader

of the Autobots and I'm trapped in this tiny

body. Yeah, right. You know what it reminds me

of? When a certain purple dinosaur got his spark

removed and it ended up in a drone. Yeah, among

other creatures. OK, yes, but like, hello from

going from being Optimus Prime, giant red truck

leader of the Autobots to Optimus Prime. High

cube minicon like come on then you go through

a bunch of other stuff with bludgeon and his

crew and then you finally get Spike putting on

the armor to become Fort Max. Yeah, absolutely

And then we get Galvatron Getting in a fight

with Fort Max. Yep. I kind of wish Fort Max and

Scorponok were bigger Yeah, I mean I get it.

It's a conflict you need to whatever but like

and Fort Max and and and Scorpion ox should not

be the same size as the rest of the transformers

just like Bumblebee should not be the same size

as optimus prime or anybody kind of thing like

yeah like come on people use that mass shifting

to your you know positive sides mm -hmm mm -hmm

then they're beating on each other and Then Spike

finally gets enough control to start shooting

and taking up Galvatron until he knocks Galvatron

out and into the ice, which actually happened

in the Headmasters cartoon. That's cool. The

Headmasters actually trapped Galvatron in ice

and there he stayed. That is very cool. Yeah,

he's like your history and then he goes back

You know, there's the last page with the Autobots

there the last Autobot is with the humans. Yep

You're like all good things All good things must

come to an end and then it's funny because The

last issue says number 80 in a four -issue limited

series Yeah Kind of playing a joke on the fact

it was supposed to be a four -issue limited series.

Yeah, because that's what it said in the beginning

Yeah, and it's like the epic conclusion and then

You get away being targeted Before being destroyed

Decepticons the end of the road Which road the

low road? Nobody's farting around here Then you

get you know, the Autobots doing their thing

and Everybody's back to fighting We're humans

more human then out of nowhere There's a the

last Autobot in prime is dropping down Mm -hmm

Decepticons consider your reign of terror over

and then nope. Everybody's like no it can't be

It can it is Optimus Prime is back And This reminds

me so much of season 3 the return of Optimus

Prime part 2 when sky links is like Our leader

is back? Yes, Skylinks. I'm back. And no force

in the universe is going to stop me. And I think

it's funny when Prime, he's like, where the last

Autobot is concerned, even death, it would appear,

is an abstract concept. Last Autobot. One on

Cybertron is a last Autobot. And then Prime explains

it all, and he's got the Autobot symbol right

on his face. Yeah, he does. He's like I've slumbered,

you know, yeah it shows him Converting alpha

Q into Cybertronian and then he starts grafting

like in a weird way like starts putting real

Cybertronians like exoskeleton over him. Yeah

recreating him And made them one and then all

of a sudden the prime armor starts going over

top of them. Yo That's cool. That is so cool.

And then Prime's just taking out the Decepticons

with the the fight without even like so much

as breaking a sweat. And Bludgeon's like, hear

me Autobots, we are destroyed, whipped like currs.

We have failed and in that failure shamed ourselves

beyond redemption. We leave you now to begin

the solitary exile that honor demands. Farewell,

Autobots. I salute you. It's over? It's really

over? Yes, it's really over. And Optimus Prime's

final words? You are an error prowl. Cybertron

was not destroying itself. The final battling...

Final bathing of the Matrix power after Unicron's

destruction began a planet -wide recreation,

guided by the last Autobot's power. That process

is now complete. Cybertron is reborn. We will

help the... ...Closians rebuild, take Neonites

back to Earth, and then, my brave warriors, finally

we can go home. The end. That was like a quick

wrap -up. Yeah, I love the bottom here and under

the end brought to you by Brought to you with

lumps in our throats by Simon Furman writer Andrew

Wildman pencilers Stephen Baskerville Inker Rick

Parker letterer Neil Yamatov colorist Rob Tokar

editor and Tom DeFalco editor -in -chief for

Marvel Comics the end Overall? My favorite issues

of the series. Are the last like 10? Yeah, pretty

much. We should have started there. I mean, if

you go back and listen to some of the other episodes

we recently did this year, folks, there were

certain parts of those that I liked, but there

were also plenty more parts than more negatives

than positives for me. But once we got past the

matrix quest Simon Furman great Dino bots great

shockwave great Not the biggest fan of Thunder

Winger bludgeon. That's fine. Whatever Galvatron

versus Megatron great. Hey, wait a minute. I'm

you you're me. What are you doing here? You know

that that's that's awesome. I love that I think

that's awesome the stuff with Optimus Prime and

the power master the little hold switching of

the body, you know the whole Freaky Friday high

Q is Optimus Prime, Optimus Prime is high Q kind

of thing. That was a little weird, but other

than that, overall, at the end of the day, I

walked away enjoying the end of the series. Who

knew it could happen? Any final thoughts from

you, sir, before I kick it to a break? I don't

think so. Alright folks, well, that's gonna do

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I love that ending I Just Wow Just wow in the

end. I'm glad I finally read it all as far as

the Marvel US run I know there was a sprinkling

a smattering of the UK run in there, but Yeah

at the end of the day. I still prefer the cartoon

over the over the original comic, but that's

just me This whole back half this final 10 or

whatever it is 15 I probably give it a four and

a half out of five I would definitely agree.

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