Top 100 Countdown – WRESTLERS – Part 2 – #75-51

Good evening, wrestling fans. Welcome to the

GCRN Podcast Arena for the Geek Cast Radio Top

100 Wrestlers Countdown. Coming to the ring are

your hosts, representing the GCRN, Kevin, up

the solo, Thompson. Money isn't everything, it's

the only thing. And representing RavingHipster

.com, TV's... Mr. Neal. The whole wrestling world

is going to stand up and take notice. And representing

Simplistic Reviews, T .J. Valentine. Also from

Simplistic Reviews, Matthew Smith. Stewart. And

now, here is our main event. 100 wrestlers enter.

Who will be number one? Let's find out. Let's

get ready to podcast. Hello and welcome back

to GeekCast Radio Network's Top 100 Wrestler

Countdown. This is Optimus Solo. I am your host

for this journey through the 100 best wrestlers

of all time. But just like last time, I am not

alone. I brought and I assembled the best team

that I could of wrestling aficionados, starting

with TV's Mr. Neal. Hello. I am so excited for

this countdown to Tom McGee. Tom McGee. Deep

pull there. All right. And we have a tag team

of sorts from the Simplistic Reviews this time.

Matthew, hello. If I had half the brains you

guys had, I would have half a brain for you.

Can I do that over again? This is live. Okay.

Damn it. And Matthew's tag team partner, Mr.

DJ Valentine. Welcome. We're really glad that

you're our friend. And this is the podcast that

will never, ever end. How are we guys? How are

you guys doing? It is kind of a podcast that

never ends. It seems like sometimes as we get

our way through 100 different people to talk

about. So as you guys listened to or heard in

the last week's episode, we started with numbers

100 through 76. Today, we're going to be giving

you guys numbers 75. through 51 if I do my numbers

right. But I didn't last time, so there is a

little bit of housekeeping to go over. I apologize.

I am a veteran when it comes to this Top 100

stuff, but I did make a flub on last week's episode.

So we have some corrections to make because we

accidentally had some people in there that we

shouldn't have been talking about. So we could

have kayfabed it. We could have just acted like

we didn't mess up and then just gone on with

it. But I'm going to try to give people their

just dues and a chance to talk about where we

screwed up. I do apologize, but it happens, especially

when I am juggling the number of Excel spreadsheets

and columns and point values and different things.

And luckily, I didn't catch it on the record

last time, but as we were going through, I was

thinking about a couple of the entrants, and

I'm like, that just isn't, did that many people

really vote for this person? So I immediately

went through and did a cross -check after the

record, and I was like, ah, hmm. This makes more

sense. So I know everybody is waiting on the

edge of their seats to hear who is getting booted

from the countdown that we talked about. last

week. So it's a swerve, man. It's a swerve, bro.

So we're going to take some people and boot them

out of the top 100. I will get your guys' reactions

on the five that are leaving us, and then we

will talk about the ramifications of that. So

the five in no particular order that are leaving

the top 100 countdown are as follows. First off,

Raven. will not be included in the top 100. You

talked about him. What about you, Raven? What

about you? And apparently it was an attempted

ECW takeover because Taz will also be leaving

us. So Taz and Raven actually did not have the

point totals to make the top 100. Rounding off

that five, we'll see maybe mixed reactions on

these three. Paul Orndorff, Mr. Wonderful, did

not quite make the countdown either. We announced

him as number 100, I believe, last week. Mr.

William Regal also gets booted. Sorry, Sunshine.

Yes. And this one I know you guys won't be upset

about. He's smirched. You won't be upset about

the fifth one, because I remember what you said

about him during the recording. The road dog,

Jesse James. Oh, thank God. I was so pissed when

I heard that. So angry. So Jesse James, William

Regal, Paul Orndorff, Taz, and Raven should not

have been announced. I apologize. They did not

make the top 100. Jesse James and William Regal

both would have been very close or mentioned

in the honorable mention section. So they did

come very close. Paul Orndorff a little bit further

off, Taz a lot further off, and Raven was not

anywhere near it. So I don't know how that happened.

So, I mean, I do. It's too complicated to talk

about. This was like the failed WCW ECW invasion.

Basically, basically. So that means five people

are out, which means that five other people are

now in. And we have to figure out how that works.

Now, one of them that would have been out is

not going to be talked about until we start getting

through the 75 through 51. But the other ones

will be mentioning now. Two of them we talked

about as honorable mentions, so we don't need

to go into a lot of detail. But coming in now

at number 99, which we talked about as an honorable

mention last time, would be AJ Lee. So she actually

did make the countdown. And coming in now at

number, let's see here, 93 would be Greg the

Hammer Valentine. Ah, Matthew's happy now. So,

AJ Lee and Greg Van Hammer Valentine were honorable

mentions. They are now in the top 100. So, before

we talk about the other people that did not get

talked about yet that we needed to talk about

last episode, Matthew, what do you think about

the five that were removed and AJ Lee and Greg

Van Hammer Valentine so far being added? A little

upset about William Regal not making the top

100, I guess. Yeah. I think we kind of had this

long discourse almost in, like, the Facebook

chat about him being one of the last real good

heels in, in, uh, in WWE or WWF programming.

And his man, man, his man's man gimmick was awesome.

And part of the, you know, Vince McMahon kissed

my ass club and everything else. And him actually

wrestling Goldberg while Goldberg was being a

little bitch about it and complaining. Right.

I mean, that is, that's, that's top 100 worthy

right there. So, uh, I've got AJ Lee's in it.

Awesome. I like AJ Lee a lot. She was the one

that dropped her female pipe bomb, whether it

was a work or not. It was still a very, very

fun pipe bomb, much like her husband's pipe bomb,

who maybe we'll talk about later on the show,

too. So I love AJ Lee, though. She was like kind

of cute and quirky and weird and everything.

So more female representation. And what about

your Greg the Hammer Valentine making it up here?

Yeah, he's cool. He's fine. I mean, it was just

Greg the Hammer Valentine. Was his finishing

move kind of like the bionic elbow that Dusty

Rhodes had? What was his finishing move? The

figure four. He's a leg lock man, man. He's big,

he's blonde, he's white. He's doing the figure

four leg lock, buddy. He's not as sausage -y

as Ric Flair, but it's fine. Yeah, I was going

to say he's like discount Ric Flair. Exactly.

They're Ric Flair without the flair. Oh, without

the flair. TV's Mr. Neal, what do you think about

the five that exited and so far the two that

have jumped into the top 100? Oh, a little disappointed

about Raven. Really disappointed about Regal.

Utterly besmirched. Going to have to kiss some

major ass to get back in, I guess. Don't know

too much about AJ Lee. Really, I like Greg the

Hammer Valentine, even though he was... I have

to say that the portion of his WWF career that

I remember is not one of his better runs, I guess.

I seem to remember him in the latter days of

his... of his career was basically like laying

down for everyone. Um, I do know that he was

a, uh, intercontinental champion at one point,

uh, had a great, uh, had a great, uh, run with,

uh, rugged Ronnie Garvin for a little while,

the hammer jammer. Um, that was, that was outstanding.

What a move name. Jesus. It was like, it was

like literally a, uh, a shin pad that, uh, Ronnie

Garvin put on his leg and it blocked the figure

four. It was, awesome i remember this oh i remember

this now this is a chin pad i remember yeah but

uh those are my feelings i kind of wish raven

was still in but oh well i'm glad to see taz

uh get the boot It does feel like it's fitting,

though, for Raven to be left off. Like, that

fits his persona, complaining in the corner about

not being there or something of that nature,

I feel like. So what about me? What about Raven?

DJ, did you have a chance to listen back to the

first segment, or what do you feel about the

adjustments that have been made? I was just happy

that Road Dogg got kicked off because I think

you guys had him above. samoa joe which really

really my foot still hurts from kicking the table

where i was sitting listening to the last podcast

where samoa joe is under the road dog jesse james

so yes i'm happy that he's now doing what he

does whatever that may be he can still be like

the announcer for it or something like you can

still sure sure it's like i mean when you're

comparing i mean as a tag team uh sure i can

understand D -Generation, New Age Outlaws. But

as a singles wrestler? Above Samoa? Joe? Joe?

Come on. I mean, I don't know. Joe's almost killed

a lot of people. Maybe that's why people are

like, ah, come on. He's wanted for murder. What

do you want for murder? He almost killed Tyson

Kidd once. Remember that? I was there. I was

there. But have you seen Tyson Kidd's hair before?

He doesn't have very good hair. It warrants a

murder. It warrants a killing. That hair is a

crime, my friend. Yes. Dead sentence. Tyson Kidd

mentions right up front. I didn't expect that.

So, okay. So that is the five that have left.

That is the two honorable mentions that are now

in. So to clear up the rest of the business that

has to happen, there should have been five other

individuals that we talked about last episode.

Which means that one of the newcomers jumped

all the way to the second episode. And then two

people we talked about last week actually jumped

into this next section of the countdown as well.

So there will be a few more complications along

the way. But after this, we'll be cleared and

ready to go from here on out with no errors.

So I'm going to go through the five that we should

have talked about last week. And then when we

get to the ones that we already talked about

last week for this week's episode, we will just

kind of mention them and skip past them. Because

we've already said our piece about those guys.

So that should clear up any time concerns. that

we would have had so not that there are time

constraints you guys know these are long episodes

so we don't apologize for that i mean come on

how many hours of wrestling do you have to sit

through every day or every week to try to catch

up it's like 17 hours now um so we're just trying

to emulate them so all right so we have a new

uh new number 100 guys um that should have been

talked about last week just barely sneaking in

to the countdown turns out that he would have

beaten Sergeant slaughter in a tiebreaker to

get the 100 spots. And that would have been the

big boss, man. Oh, We should have talked about

the Big Boss Man at number 100, and we didn't.

So he is now in the countdown at number 100.

We will mention a couple things about him right

now. I guess I should have gone through the names.

War Machine, The Guardian Angel, Ray Traylor,

Big Bubba Rogers, and, of course, Big Boss Man.

So, DJ, what do you think about Big Boss Man

now being in the top 100 as well? He's one of

the few, when I started getting into wrestling

when I was younger, he was one of the ones that

stuck out. And I remember recently hearing that

story where Stone Cold was talking about. getting

hit by Big Boss Man. The clothesline that he

did. That's a great story. Big Boss Man, he's

in the and Matt will be happy, this is a I guess

this is kind of a occupational gimmick. This

is our first occupational gimmick of the countdown.

There you go. He's probably one of the best occupational

gimmick characters of all time. He's up there.

He's got to be up there. He's up there. He's

in the discussion. That's another countdown for

another time, I think. That's a sub -countdown

to this one. Occupational 1 ,100. He debuted

in 1985. Ended up wrestling until the early 2000s.

Obviously, no longer with us. Died in 2004. TV's

Mr. Neal. What do you think of Big Boss Man entering

the countdown? Love the big boss, man. I would

have been very upset if he wasn't on the list.

I was very surprised that he was off the list

and they just got back in on a technicality.

Yeah, I remember him very much being the southern

prison guard turned wrestler somehow for some

reason. Not as strange as a wrestling NASCAR

driver. Or a garbage man or whatever the hell

else they had. A plumber. A hockey player. I

can buy that a prison guard could turn wrestler.

He was voted the most improved wrestler by the

Wrestling Observer Newsletter in 1987. Also,

they voted him the worst feud of the year in

96 with John Tenta and the worst feud of the

year in 1999 with The Big Show. He did get some

gold. He got the Hardcore Championship for WWE

four times. wwf tag team one time with ken shamrock

and he was inducted into the wwe hall of fame

in 2016 matthew what do you think of the big

boss man coming in and the countdown and and

what's your favorite big boss man moment oh man

there's i i don't think there's really any When

he first came to the scene, he had the blue.

The thing that always kind of bothers me now,

too, he always rocked the Confederate flag emblem

on his arm again. So that bothers me now as a

human being in general. But I always found that

to be kind of weird. And then when he turned

into the corporate boss man is when he, I think,

had his best moments. He had kidnapping a dog

and cooking it and feeding it to somebody. Dragging

a dead man's coffin away while a man jumped on

the coffin. And that's the big show feud, which

is amazing. That was so stupid. And then essentially

being killed by the Undertaker in that Hell in

a Cell match when he pretty much hung the big

boss man, similar to what people do in prison,

I guess. I don't know if that was something going

for that. Maybe that was like a Jeffrey Epstein

type thing. Think about it now. Oh man, we're

getting topical now. He also had the, I remember

the handcuffs on what was it? Hulk Hogan on the

ropes way back when. So that was like the first

time I'd ever seen that. I'm sure it had been

done in a lot of different independent or other

wrestling places, but that's the first time I

had seen it. And I was like, Oh, this is interesting.

Then he had that weird feud with the ex con who,

I guess the guy who like supposedly broke out

of prison and wanted revenge on the big boss,

man. And I remember. The ex -con handcuffing

the big boss man, like beating his ass with like

his, his like nightstick or something like that.

And I remember seeing that as a kid, I was like,

Oh my God, this policeman's being beat by a criminal.

Of course it's not real. I'm an adult now and

I understand. I've been a prostitute as a kid.

I've grown and changed. I've grown up a lot.

Obviously talking about wrestling now. There

was a good story about Big Boss Man, and I think

it was something to wrestle with as far as trying

to go back to where he was a prison guard at

and doing some footage and whatnot, but it didn't

go so well. I'm not going to try to retell the

story, but it was definitely one of those interesting

Bruce Prichard segments where he's trying to

film and things go awry. But he is our new number

100. We also have a new number 99 that we didn't

talk about last week that we need to talk about

and at least give him a mention. I like doing

this. DJ, if you've heard, I like trying to give

some names out and see if you guys can figure

out who it is. So we're going to go with his

ring name at one point was the Cosmic Cowboy

No. 2. At another point, it was the Modern Day

Warrior. Yes! And most people, though, would

know him either by his real name or his gimmick

as the Texas Tornado, Kerry Von Erich. So a Von

Erich family member makes... The countdown. Neil,

you responded first, so what do you think about

this one? I love the Texas Tornado. One -footed

wrestler. He wrestled with one foot. Yep. A lot

of people didn't know. In fact, nobody knew that

until after he died. Right. Yeah. I don't want

to get into this whole thing, but I went into

the hospital last year, and I lost my foot, so

it was kind of like this. I kind of like... started

watching his matches to see how he was walking

because it would, it kind of like, uh, I just

wanted to see like how well you can get back

on your feet, so to speak, you know, seeing what

he went through. And I was just really amazed.

You can't, you really can't tell unless you look

at one of his boots is one of his boots is kind

of like a different shape. And I suspect that's

why he wore tassels on his boots after a while.

Yeah. But, uh, yeah. The shame that, uh, he took

his life in like what? 90. two 93, somewhere.

It was like, yeah. I've done bigger shame about

the whole family because most of them also did

some of their things. He debuted in 1979, obviously

spent time in multiple different places, including

NWA, WCCW, USWA, WWF, global wrestling, etc.

As far as some of the accolades that he has,

he was a WWF Intercontinental Champion one time

and also inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2009.

Has a bunch of other gold when it comes to NWA.

WCCW and WCWA, et cetera, but we won't go into

all of those. Matthew, what do you think of one

of the Von Eriks at least making the countdown

here at 99? I mean, we'll see if, you know, anybody

else from the Von Erich family makes it. But

if there's going to be one more memorable character,

it's probably him. I always thought of him looking

a lot like the Ultimate Warrior when I was growing

up, too. And then I always remember the match

when he won that Intercontinental Champion against

Mr. Perfect, which was one of those big surprises

where it's like, oh, you beat Mr. Perfect, which

was amazing. So didn't really see a lot of matches

outside of that one match with Mr. Perfect. cool

look, the very Ultimate Warrior -esque look that

was always very appealing to me. Yeah, I think

that's where they got the Modern Day Warrior

gimmick from at one point, I want to say. There

was that one Survivor Series where it was the

Ultimate Warrior, the Modern Day Warrior, and

the Road Warriors all on one team. Maybe that's

why they named him that. Maybe it was just that

show that he got named that. I don't know. They

were trying to get rid of the Warriors. So like

Road Warriors got turned to Legion of Doom and

Texas Tornado became a thing. So they were trying

to only have one warrior. The ultimate warrior.

All of the Warriors are bikers compared to this

one. DJ, what do you think of the Texas Tornado

coming in here? I'm literally just like, man,

I remember him the first time I saw him, he was

with the Ultimate Warrior. I think they were

tagging together. Like, are they brother? This

is when I didn't know I was too young to like

when everything was real. And two, if you kind

of look similar, you're related to me. I used

to think that they were kind of brother and brother.

And then I kind of grew up and realized, oh,

no, they have nothing to do with each other.

And there's like two ultimate warriors. And this

is very convoluted. But, you know, no, that's

the Von Eric name is right up there with in terms

of in wrestling, a famous name as, you know,

hard flair and stuff like that. So him being

on this list makes sense. Alright, let's go to

another new entrant into the countdown. Another

female that's going to make this part of the

countdown coming in at number 88. She once went

by the ring name of Miss Congeniality or Angelica,

but she's also trained by Dory Funk Jr., El Dandy,

Ricky Santana, and Kevin Quinn. Made a debut

in 1998. Most people know that she started off

a little bit in ECW. We know her mostly by the

name Lita. So Lita comes in here at 88 on the

countdown. That's where she would plug in. She

was voted the feud of the year in 2005 by pro

wrestling illustrated with edge versus Matt Hardy

and being involved in that. She was voted woman

of the year in 2001. She was the WWF or WWE woman's

champion four times and inducted into the hall

of fame in 2014. We'll start with DJ Lita coming

in here at number 88. What do you think? And

if you remember the other females that we, talked

about so far in this section of the countdown

now would be AJ Lee, Trish Stratus, Nia Jax,

and of course the fabulous Moolah. So what do

you think of Lita joining that group? She was

one of the first ones I've ever seen do high

-flying lucha stuff as a female wrestler. And

it kind of ruined it for me because now every

time I see a Marvel movie and Black Widow does

some kind of move. And I'm like, yeah, it's the

move Lita used to do when I was younger. And

she brought thongs back. So, you know, Lita was

kind of, but no, I really like, I really liked

Lita, her affiliation with the Hardy boys and

they were doing crazy stuff. The only thing with

Lita is that. Get that mic in front of her. That's

downhill from there. Just keep doing them sentons

and hurricanranas because if you get next to

a mic, that was where that was what separated

her and like a Trish Stratus did for me is where,

you know, Trish could Trish had my skills and

she could wrestle where Alita was exceptional

wrestler, but could not talk a lick. But yeah,

Alita is, you know, she's Hall of Fame kind of.

Is she in the Hall of Fame? I'm not even sure.

Is she a Hall of Fame wrestler? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

WWE. Yeah, right, right, right. I mean, that

era, she just screamed. Her and the Hardy Boys

just screamed the Attitude Era when I was actually

really, really deep into wrestling. And when

I was playing SmackDown on my PlayStation, I

would grab Lita and do the moves. Matthew, what

do you think of Lita joining the group? And where

does she rank amongst those other females that

we talked about? I think wrestling acumen higher

than... I think between her and AJ Lee are probably

the two... best wrestler so far, female wrestlers

on the list right now. The only thing is that

AJ Lee could actually talk and make you believe

what she was saying. Whereas Lita was like, can

I just slide under the sheets here with Edge?

I don't really want to talk to anybody right

now. I don't know. I always liked her look. Maybe

I just have a thing for the goth chick look or

something like that too. Maybe it's just a personal

preference I have. She would take bumps and bumps

and bumps. Not really have, I mean, I don't know,

like the New Depot revolution or whatever you

want to call it now, like people like Sasha Banks.

I mean, they take pretty good bumps, but I mean,

she was taking, you know, the Dudley boys going

through tables with them. And she was involved

in some interesting feuds and, you know, some,

but man, I mean, everybody hated her too near

the end of her tenure. And then when they did

the whole thing with Crime Time with the... yeast

infection pads. I was like, God damn. They go

for the low. Now it's like, man, that's cringy,

but it's kind of funny. It's so fucked up, but

it's funny at the same time. I don't really know,

but I like Lena. did things that nobody else

was doing uh from a female wrestler perspective

maybe maybe in mexico i wasn't really watching

a lot of lucha libre wrestling in mexico or anywhere

else but to american audience he was he was pretty

pretty damn dope with hardy's so yeah absolutely

tv's mr neil any thoughts on lita before we move

on to the next one that we forgot to talk about

last week WWF, always classy. It would have been

a crime. It would have been a total crime for

her to not be on this list because of how much

she meant to women's wrestling. Like I said last

week, she and Trish main evented a Raw at a time

when women's wrestling was still in the bra and

panty era. So that was kind of a win from the

future when that happened. And it was a good

main event. Yeah, it would have been a total...

Just wouldn't have been right for her to not

be on this list. I always view her as kind of

almost a link between the old way that women

were presented on WWE compared to what we have

now. Like, I feel like she wasn't quite, you

know, just the supermodel pinup girl that they

were bringing in and chauffeuring around like

back with Sonny and Sable and things of that

nature. But she was still part of some of those

kind of. not too classy segments as well. So

it was kind of like a borderline, but she was

physical enough where it kind of transitioned

into, Hey, she can do a lot of stuff that the

guys can do sort of speak. So I was kind of view

her as like a link of one arrow to another. in

a way but from here on we are going to kind of

go almost in order because the next two that

we were missing would have been 77 and 76 now

so that will take us right into number 75 which

is where we should have started so let's start

with number 77 did not get talked about last

week and should have these names are all going

to give it away because this guy was known by

about 100 names and they're going to be familiar

to everybody so the cannonball kid the kamikaze

kid yes the lightning kid the one two three kid

six six pack x -pack i don't care what you want

to call him his real name is sean waltman and

he's number 77 on our countdown matthew stewart

a member of uh A lot of different factions, I

guess you could say, with Degeneration X, The

Click, Million Dollar Corporation, etc. He debuted

in 1989 and spent a lot of time in wrestling.

What do you think about him coming in here at

number 77? First thing I want to say, early days

when he was just known as the kid and everything,

the mullet he was rocking. We didn't have another

sub list for mullets in wrestling as well, too.

Waterfall, baby. Oh, so good. But I always remember

when he beat Razor Ramon and it was a surprise

Razor Ramon. And I remember Razor Ramon's face

when he, when he lost, he was like, what, what,

what happened? That's a great storyline. It was

fantastic. And then they became friends and then.

Screwed Razor Ramon over, and then eventually

they all left and went to WCW and became NWO.

I mean, he's – as a single wrestler, he was always,

like, very exciting because he did a lot of,

you know, really cool high -flying things. And

then he – I don't know. I guess he could talk.

I mean, but he also wore blackface once too,

so that wasn't very good. So did Triple H. Yeah,

everybody very much in that entire – Yikes. Again.

Pretty classy, WWF. But those attitude errors.

So, you know, whatever. We all accept it as it

is now. But he was always good. Bronco Buster

was a good move. And his other finishing move,

whatever that was called, was cool. And I don't

know. He had a lot of energy. I don't know. I

always liked him. I liked him in a sex tape,

too. So, man. I forgot about that. Men's sex

tape mentioned number one. All right. WCW Cruiserweight

Champion one time. WCW World Tag Team Champion

one time with Kevin Nash and Scott Hall. WWF

European Champion twice. Light Heavyweight twice.

Cruiserweight once. Tag Champions with Marty

Jannetty, Bob Holly, and twice with Kane. He

got a Slammy Award in 1994 for The Biggest Heart.

That's cool. He also was inducted into the Hall

of Fame this year as a member of D -Generation

X. DJ, what do you think is Sean Waltman's place

in this countdown and in history of wrestling?

Of all the members of D -Generation X other than

Triple H and I guess Shawn Michaels, I think

he in terms of his in -ring singles career, I

would put him up there. I heard you guys talking

about Billy Gunn and Last Show and Road Dogg.

I mean, X -Pac was doing stuff before there was

D -Generation. The guy was talking about the

Razor Ramon thing. And I remember when he came

back and he was shooting on WWE and all that

stuff. It was just like, whoa, whoa, this is

not the X -Pac I grew up with. What's going on

here? But yeah, yeah, he's in that era. That

era was when I was... deep into wrestling where

i would watch it every week and i'd be you know

i check the the the blogs and all that stuff

i want to know where these guys are going to

go to next time xbox was there i never really

liked when he teamed with kane though i never

liked that something about that never worked

with me i don't understand that but yeah even

uh when they got inducted degeneration x even

though you can see him reading his lines or whatever

but uh but he's still in terms of comedy that

those that click that unit is just so good together

so yeah x pocket it makes that unit work so yeah

he deserves to be here i know he's often talked

about too as being one of the most integral parts

of the monday night wars as far as when he went

back to WWF and kind of swinging the tide and

kind of showing some stuff there and being very

important in that movement and kind of getting

WWE back to the top of the ratings. But TV's

Mr. Neal, what do you think of Xbox 6, Sean Waltman,

however you know him best, coming in here at

77? Excellent. If you want a good time, check

out some of his... pre -wwf stuff when he was

the lightning kid such a cocky little shit heel

he was awesome and when he came to wwf it was

a total inversion he was like oh golly gee mr

ramon i don't want to cause any trouble i you

know you know i don't know if i want to do this

rematch and then he like runs away with the money

which was hilarious i can't really say much else

about him I did like him in the NWO. I think

he was around for a year and a half or so. Then

he jumped ship back to WWF. Somebody coined the

phrase X -Pac Heat to describe him. After a while,

he just became more annoying than anything else.

The less said about X -Factor, the better. Is

he like a proto -Daniel Bryan, would you say?

Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I do agree that he's

a little bit weak on the mic, but his entering

skills were pretty good. And just by association

with the NWO and the D -Generation X, I mean,

he was pretty important for that time period

for sure. All right, so one more that we did

not get a chance to talk about last week that

we need to correct to now. This would be number

76. He was known as the names Ali Vasari. Anybody?

The great Hussein Arab? Colonel Mustafa? Ah,

yes. Or mostly known as just the good old Iron

Sheik. So the Iron Sheik comes in here at number

76. I don't know if he made more of a name for

himself after his in -ring career or not, but

spent some time in WWF from 1983 to about 1988,

and then kind of bounced around here, there,

and everywhere else, made some sporadic appearances.

As far as gold, he was the world heavyweight

champion one time, tag team champion one time

with Nikolai Volkov, and inducted into the Hall

of Fame for WWE in 2004. TV's Mr. Neal, Iron

Sheik. Have you watched all of his YouTube videos

and interviews since then? Is he worthy of being

here at number 76? He's made me humble, I'll

say that. Great humble on Twitter. Interesting.

Not really what I think of when I think of stellar

wrestling. was very important to pushing another

major babyface in the early 80s. Gee, I just

can't remember his name. I'm sure it'll come

to me. Some guy. Yeah, just some guy. May have

run the territory for a decade or so. I don't

know. Yeah, well, one thing I have to mention

is his run as Colonel Mustafa. The whole time

I'm like, are we supposed to not know that he's

the Sheik? Because I still remember that. They

never mentioned it. Except for like one time.

Except for like one time, Roddy Piper just slipped

it in at SummerSlam. But other than that, they

just never acknowledged it. Yeah. They tried

to act like we weren't smart back in the day,

but, you know, it happens. So I'm just going

to do a quick run -through of this is what the

order would have been through 176, and then we're

going to carry on with 75. So we would have gone

with 100, Big Boss Man, then Kerry Von Erich,

then A .J. Lee. Bubba Ray Dudley, Jim the Anvil

Neidhart, Tully Planchard, Trish Stratus, Gorgeous

George, Greg the Hammer Valentine, Nia Jax, Ken

Shamrock, Haku, Lita, Samoa Joe, Vern Gagne,

Junkyard Dog, Tito Santana, The Great Muda, JBL,

Sid, Ultimo Dragon, Fabulous Mula, Badass Billy

Gunn, Sean Waltman, and Iron Sheik. So that should

have been 100 through 76. So that brings us...

Back to reality. Number 75 on the countdown.

Interested to see who can speak to this gentleman

and what you all know about him. I'm not very

well versed, but it is also the first entrance

in our top 100 that actually appeared in somebody's

top 10. So this is the first top 10 member to

be revealed. Ring names. How about Kazimoto?

The Kamikaze? Little Tokyo? Tokyo Tom? A bunch

of them I can't name. Kanji Inoki, Killer Inoki,

or just Antonio Inoki. Trained by Ricky Dozan

and Carl Gotch. Made his debut in 1960. It says

he retired in 1998. Again, that's being nice.

So Antonio Inoki, obviously a big star in New

Japan from almost like 1970s all the way through

the end of the century there it seems like. So

Antonio Inoki shows up here. Matthew, have you

ever seen an Antonio Inoki match and do you know

who he is? The name rings a bell because I know

he had some History also with Andre the Giant,

I believe, when Andre, I think, was doing a lot

of New Japan or wrestling in Japan. Maybe not

New Japan, but just wrestling in Japan. And he

ran the territory, I believe. I think he was

a major part of it. I can't wax poetic on his

achievements, but the name, you always hear Antonio

Inoki. And I always find it weird that his name's

Antonio and he's Japanese. So maybe that's the

thing I know. I realize the most about him, like,

Antonio. That's not his real name. Okay, I know,

but at the same time, it's like, well, why did

you choose to be Antonio? No, actually, it's

interesting because his real name also still

does not sound Japanese. He was born in Yokohama,

Japan. His real name is Mohamed Hassan Enoki.

Okay, see, this is even more confusing. i mean

muhammad is like one of the most like you know

widely used names in the entire world as we know

super bad of course but at the same time well

muhammad enoki i mean god it's i don't know it's

like uh the guy goes to italy once and he's like

oh Some interesting stuff here in New Japan Wrestling

as far as who he was involved with. He had tag

team. It says MSG Tag League. I don't know if

that means that they won some type of tag championship

or not, but he's listed with Bob Backlund. He's

listed with Hulk Hogan, a guy named Tatsumi Fujinami,

and Ricky Choshu and Kentaro Hoshino. I'm sorry

I'm pronouncing all of those wrong, but some

interesting times there in New Japan for sure.

He's been inducted into a lot of Hall of Fames,

including... in the WCW Hall of Fame in 95 and

the WWE Hall of Fame in 2010. Was also voted

the promoter of the year in 2001 and inducted

into the Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame in 96.

DJ, is Antonio Inoki worthy of being mentioned

here in our Top 100? Is he the guy that fought

Muhammad Ali? I think he fought Muhammad Ali

and this is probably the only thing I've ever

seen him do, if that's the same guy. Muhammad

Ali, I'm pretty sure isn't. I think it's the

same guy that fought Muhammad Ali. If not, I

apologize. But I think that Muhammad Ali fought

a Japanese wrestler. Yes, he did. Okay, yeah.

I have seen this match, which is one of the weirdest

things I've ever seen in my life. Imagine Muhammad

Ali fighting a guy on his back is all I remember.

So, yeah. I guess just because you were in the

ring with Muhammad Ali, you deserve to be on

the list. So, yeah, put him on the list. Go ahead.

The bout ended in a draw. See, he drew with Muhammad

Ali the greatest of all time. How many can say

that? Who can say that? Mr. Neal, we've had a

few international stars show up, obviously, here

with Ultimo Dragon and the great Muda. How do

you feel about Inoki showing up here as well?

I can't really say much about it because I'm

not familiar with this guy. I know the face.

I've seen the face. I think I recognize him from

the Virtual Pro Wrestling series on N64, which

we know as the WCW versus NWO and then later

the WWF WrestleMania 2000 games. I don't think

he made the American versions. He may have under

a different name, but I don't really remember.

Try looking it up. I don't know. But I'm really

not familiar with the guy who's wrestling. Alter

Muhammad Hassan Otorio Onoki. He did help train

Masahiro Chono. He also helped train Bryan Adams,

which most of us know as Crush back in the day.

So a lot of other wrestlers, too. I just don't

know how many our listeners will be familiar

with. I wish he trained the singer Bryan Adams.

That would be even better. That's another accolade.

All right, so Antonio Inoki starts us off here

at number 75. We do not need to talk about number

74 because we already talked about him last week,

and that would be none other than Barry Windham.

So we will just skip past Barry Windham, seek

last week's episode to find our comments about

him. So let's move on right into our number 73

with a little more international flair here.

Let's see what kind of ring names we can get

for this gentleman. How about Fuji Yamada? How

about... CTU Ranger Yellow. What do you, Jack

Bauer? Kaichi Yamada. Kaishin Liger. Or just

Jushin Thunder Liger. He made a debut in 1984,

obviously spent some time, well, actually in

All -Star Wrestling, Stampede Wrestling, New

Japan Pro Wrestling, into the WWE, into WCW,

Ring of Honor, TNA, and some other lucha organizations.

So a lot of travels for Liger here. I'm going

to go through some of the stuff that we had as

far as WCW. He was a light heavyweight champion

one time. Didn't end up having any belts in WWE,

but did have quite a few things, especially in

New Japan. TV's Mr. Neal. Are you familiar with

Yushin Liger? And what do you think of him coming

in the list as well? I remember him mostly from

WCW. Unfortunately. In retrospect, all of those

luchadores slash Japanese wrestlers, they kind

of lumped them all together in the cruiserweight

division, and they kind of all blend together.

They're just like all the flippy guys. And I

do remember him. He had one of the cooler masks.

And I think he has the distinction of being the

first Nitro match with, oh, my God, I can't remember

the guy's name now. I know we had a feud with

Brian Pillman right away. I don't know if that

would have been one of his. Yeah, it was Brian

Pillman, yes. So that's really all I can recall

at the moment. So, DJ, what do you think about

Jushin Thunder Liger? What if a Power Ranger

in Ultraman made love to a volcano? That's Jushin

Thunder. I think he was a creative player in

one of the – I only remember him from video games.

I've never seen him wrestle up close. And I always

remember going, that is the craziest – he was

like a Power Ranger, but that's the craziest

mask I've ever seen. And it's dangerous. It's

very dangerous. It's very pointy. Don't wear

that. But yeah, I mean, I have a blind spot when

it comes to New Tokyo and, you know, some of

the Luchis. But yeah, Jushin Thunder Liger, I

just remember the outfit, which was like, wow.

You're making Ric Flair look bashful with that

outfit. That was my favorite part about all the

cruiserweights in WCW was all the different outfits

and costumes and masks and capes and different

things that they had on. Matthew, did you ever

remember watching him against Brian Pillman in

WCW or any of his other ventures? Not Brian Pillman,

but like Neil said, he kind of got lumped in

with all the other... cruiserweight luchador

wrestlers. Viano 4 and 5. La Parca and Psychosis.

Psychosis. I love Psychosis. Chavo Guerrero Jr.

Who was the pumpkin guy? The pumpkin guy? Michael

Myers? That was Dean Malenko in a disguise. The

great pumpkin. Yeah, the great pumpkin, Charlie.

But I think I remember... I think not too long

ago he fought Will Ospreay, I feel, in some match.

And it was like an awesome match, like high flying.

I think it was Will Ospreay. It could have been

somebody else. But it's funny, like he's been

in the game for what now, 35 years or something

like that? So I don't know when he started. So

let's say he started when he was 16 or 18 or

something like that. The guy's pushing 50 and

he's still out there wrestling, you know, 25

-year -olds and stuff. So I don't know. I always

liked his outfit too. He looked kind of like.

Like DJ said, Ultraman. And, you know, if like

Ultraman and a Power Ranger made love while Rita

Repulsa watched. And filmed it. And watched.

And then Lord Zedd was like in the corner like

doing. Oh, my God. Get an 8 -millimeter with

a vision like that. 8 -millimeter like. Oh, my

God. All right. Let's move on before we go down

that road any further. He wore it. We didn't

do it. So you guys know and are aware when we

have a tie, the first tiebreaker is who appeared

on more people's lists. And then if they both

appeared on the same amount of lists, it's who.

the highest that he got ranked overall. So we

had a tie here, but the loser of the tie that's

going to come in here at number 72 next. It's

funny. We just talked about Antonio Inoki and

Yushin Liger. Let's talk about another. No, he's

not actually Japanese, but went by the name of

Kokina Maximus or the Great Kokina when he was

in the AWA or the Wild Samoan Kokina. But once

he got to the WWF, they named him Yokozuna. Rodney

Agatupu. I can't say his name, but he's another

one of our Samoans that is making the countdown

here. He debuted in 1984, spent about six or

seven years in the AWA, which I want to go back

and dig up some of that footage because I don't

ever remember watching any of that. So made his

debut in WWF in 1992. He was the third fastest

newcomer after Brock Lesnar and Sheamus to win

the WWF or WWE championship after his debut.

As far as gold goes. WWF Tag Team Champion twice

with Owen Hart, World Heavyweight Champion twice,

WWE Hall of Fame in 2012. What do you guys think

of Yokozuna starting with TV's Mr. Neal? Watching

him back in the day, especially looking back

at it now, it was kind of uncomfortable just

because you're like, oh my God, this guy's not

going to be around very long, just looking at

the size of the guy. It was really surprising

for him to win the WWF title when he did because

it was at WrestleMania when no heel had ever

won the title at that event ever before. Of course,

knowing who was coming back on that day, we really

should have known better what was about to happen.

But yeah, unfortunately, that's really where

his accolades end is that WWF run after he won

the title back from Hogan, of course. Him going

up against Luger and then Undertaker and then

losing the title just kind of like faded away

very quickly. Did have a tag team with Owen Hart.

I do remember that was part of one of my favorite

Raw matches when he lost. He and Owen lost the

title to the Smoking Guns again. You really have

to watch the end of that match because I think

it's hilarious. It's one of the better... heel

teammate hits his own partner moments I've ever

seen is hilarious. That's all I really got to

say about him. The amount of money that WWF or

WWE spent to try to get this guy help when it

came to weight and when it came to health is,

is staggering. They did a lot. They tried to

send him to all kinds of different, you know,

hospitals, universities, you know, had studies.

done and and everything to try to help him out

and he was seemed like he was pretty resistant

to it as based on what most people say but obviously

has a very fam a very famous wrestling family

um affa and sika are his uncles the usos are

his first cousins once removed he's also got

relations to roman reigns or kishi samu rosie

omaga and the rock um dj what do you think of

yokozuna and is uh 72 a good spot for him uh

i would think so i mean This was one of the first

wrestlers that I thought was like, when I saw

him, I was like, how do you beat that guy? I

remember him fighting The Undertaker, and I'm

like, wow. How do you beat him? How much did

he weigh? It has to be north. At his death, it

was 580. Do you understand? He wasn't big show

height. He must have been, what, maybe 6 '2",

6 '3"? That's a... big man so i just understand

that's where the realism kind of started creeping

in my brain like you can't move this man if he

doesn't want to be moved he can barely move himself

he's like it's like fighting a tractor trailer

for real so yeah but yokozuna that's the red

and i remember the red and black trunks i remember

making him in smackdown game because he was just

one of those wrestlers up there with uh and I

was like, how do you beat somebody that big?

So, yeah, he needed to be underfoot. It was like

when he got into the Royal Rumble or whatever.

You're like, well, that's the winner. Yeah, you

can't move. If he climbs up the steps, the game

is over. Matthew, any thoughts on Yokozuna in

the 72, a good spot in your mind? I think for

memorability, yes, because, I mean, he also had

Mr. Fuji helping him, too, and everybody hated

Mr. Fuji, so he had a great heel manager throwing

rice in people's eyes or throwing the salt in

people's eyes. Please tell me it was salt. It

wasn't a wedding, so it had to have been salt.

Okay. It was definitely salt. Get a face full

of rice with the help? Get a face full of, ah,

no! Jesus, WWF, come on, man. Two memories I

have of him. The first one is when he did, I

think he did the bonsai drop to Jim Duggan, I

think like five times. And I remember watching

that as a kid, like a big, large man just crushing

Jim Duggan. And then Jim Duggan was actually

spitting blood out of his mouth. I remember that.

And then he took his American flag and put it

over him. I was like, oh my God. He murdered

him. He murdered this American hero of mine.

And then, of course, when Lex Luger slammed him

on the USS Constitution or whatever thing it

was. Yeah, when he came out of the helicopter

and he slammed him. Yeah, Lex Express! Whoa!

But then it was sad. That went well, by the way.

Yeah. Lex Express really worked really hard.

Everybody was... Lex Express said Lex Luger was

not even on. OSW is doing a great series of that

right now. It was probably one of those gentlemen

like Yokozuna. I mean, as far as, you know, if

he would have been around longer or had some

more longevity, maybe creeps his way up higher

on the countdown, but obviously a fairly short

run compared to some of the other people we've

been talking about or that we will talk about

later, I'm guessing. So something that might've

cost him in the voters mind. So another person

that might have fallen down a little bit due

to a lack of longevity is our next. Entrant,

which actually tied with Yokozuna, but broke

the tiebreaker and comes in here at number 71.

I believe all these names are going to give it

away. So I assume that you guys are going to

get this before I say it. But he was known as

the Yellow Dog. That might be the only one that

doesn't come up familiar with people. The Loose

Cannon, Hollywood Blonde, Hawaiian Brian. We're

talking about Brian Pillman. So another wrestler

whose career was cut short, unfortunately, debuted

in 1986, trained by Stu Hart. Obviously, good

pedigree there. A lot of time in Jim Crockett

promotions with WCW slash NWA. He was a WCW light

heavyweight champion twice, world tag team champion

with Steve Austin. for both the WCW and the NWA.

He was the United States Tag Team Champion at

NWA with Tom Zink, WCW Light Heavyweight Champion,

if I didn't say that already. And he's in the

Canadian Wrestling Hall of Fame, got inducted

there in 2016. The Stampede Wrestling Hall of

Fame, was voted Rookie of the Year in the Wrestling

Observer in 1987, was voted the Tag Team of the

Year in 93 with Steve Austin as the Hollywood

Blondes. Got a five -star match in 1991 with

Sting, the Steiner Brothers, versus Ric Flair,

Larry Zbysko, Barry Windham, and Sid Vicious

at WrestleWar. And was voted the Feud of the

Year 1997 with Bret Hart, Owen Hart, Jim Neidhart,

and Davey Boy Smith against Stone Cold Steve

Austin. That's one other name on the other side.

I like that it's like six against one as the

Feud of the Year. But TV's Mr. Neal, what do

you think about Brian Pillman coming in here

at 71? Austin 316 meets Brian Pillman 9mm. I

just remember, well, what was funny about that

was that it was WWF still kind of tiptoeing very

carefully into the Attitude Era, so they really

weren't... ready to acknowledge that it was a

gun. They're like, Oh, there are explosions inside

the house. We don't know what's going on. Yeah.

They didn't want to say gunshot, but otherwise

that, Oh my God, that was hilarious. Um, I do

remember him from, uh, WCW mostly because I was

kind of more on the WCW side when he went to

WWF. So I remember him as the part of the Hollywood

blondes when he was still kind of a high flyer.

I understand he changed his style completely

by the time he left. So I don't remember. I really

have no memory of him. in wwf or unfortunately

he was almost hurt immediately when he got into

the wwf it seemed like he was not around for

a long time before he was injured um some people

might not know this this should also be a sub

list of the number of people that we talk about

in this top 100 that also uh had an nfl career

or at least appeared on an nfl roster at one

point he appeared on the bangles in 1984 and

the bills at least in the preseason in 1985 here's

an interesting note here uh pillman and john

harbaugh the current head coach of the baltimore

ravens were actually roommates in So I didn't

know that. But DJ, what do you think about Brian

Pillman showing up here? Let's imagine that conversation.

Because John Harbaugh, if you ever see an interview

with him, is the most boring man on the planet.

And Brian Pillman is not. That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, what's going on, man? I don't know. That's

probably why he's the way he is. Belichick 2

.0. I never saw Brian Pillman wrestle. I remember

hearing the name. And, uh, I guess, I guess he,

he looking at him, he's kind of like got the

Raven look. He's got the scraggly, you know,

blonde hair. And I, that era is the, I got a

lot of blind spots for that too. It's like when,

when Stone Cold had hair and stuff like that,

I, I didn't know. The Hollywood blonde era. It

was so weird. It's weird. He tweeted out a picture

of himself recently to The Rock where he had

hair and a fanny pack. I'm like, you don't look

right. But no, Brian Pillman, I've always heard

the name. I wish I would have seen him wrestle.

I guess I can just go down to YouTube, Black

Hole, Rabbit Hole, and check out some of his

old matches. But yeah, never got to see him wrestle,

but I've always heard the name. Matthew Stewart,

any thoughts on Brian Pillman? I remember his

moniker in WCW when he was flying. Not really.

I mean, seeing him as a singles wrestler was

cool. I never really got into the Hollywood Blondes

thing. And then, of course, when he went into

WWF and got hurt, he didn't wrestle. He was more

just a mouthpiece. He was like the crazy part

of the Hart Foundation. And then, of course,

the just so -called going over to his house and

Brian Philbin's going to shoot him with a gun.

And it's like, oh, we have to cut the commercial.

It's not even cutting the commercial. It was

like, oh, the show ended or the feed died while.

Somebody might have gotten murdered. It was just

such an odd time. Cause yeah, that was the beginning

of, cause was that pre or was that post of Austin

three 16? I feel like it was right around that.

Yeah. And I always remember very vividly the

shirt he would always wear of like. It looked

like a big skull on his shirt with like an eyeball,

but it was like an eyeball hanging from his,

I don't know. His fashion was more important

to me than his wrestling because he didn't do

any wrestling in WWF. But another guy who just,

you know, died way, way too young, you know,

just having problems, you know, addiction problems.

So, you know, didn't really get to see a lot

of them because he wasn't around that long. So

that was unfortunate. But apparently if you do

look into some of his early WCW stuff, he is

way beyond his time as far as some of the stuff

he was able to do in the ring, as far as what

I've heard. Yeah. So let's move on to our number

70 on the list. If you were to tell me that we

were going to have someone on our top 100 list

that was trained by Lodi. who was a member of

Raven's flock. I wouldn't have put in much stock

in that. Cause I didn't even think he was a good

wrestler to begin with. I didn't know he was

training anybody, but this is our sixth female

on the top 100 countdown. We're going to somebody

who was once known as Ashley. That's cause that's

her real name, but she goes by Charlotte nowadays.

So Charlotte flair is our number 70. Debuted

in 2012, one of the more recent people that is

going to be on our countdown here. WWE Raw Women's

Champion four times, SmackDown Women's Champion

four times. Hasn't had a whole lot of time to

do much else than that. Feud of the Year in 2016,

according to PWI, with Sasha Banks. Rookie of

the Year 2014. DJ, you said wow, so let's go

to you first. What do you think of Charlotte

Flair being number 70? After The Rock kind of

left WWE, I kind of left. And the thing that

got me back was the Becky Lynch attacking Raw

and the Nia Jax breaking her face stuff. And

at that time, Becky Lynch was doing this thing

with Charlotte and all of that stuff. And I was

kind of on the periphery. And then when they

got to the Ronda Rousey -Charlotte -Becky match,

I actually got to sit down and watch Charlotte

wrestle for the first time. I mean, she might

be one of the best wrestlers in the company right

now. Like I don't care, man, woman, like she,

if you watch that match again and Becky is the

biggest one that's over because of, you know,

the way they're writing her and her attitude

and what she's carrying. But in terms of in ring

ability, Charlotte flair is a beast. Like. I

never thought that she does these moves and it's

like she's snapping the suplexes like I've seen

Eddie Guerrero snap a suplex. She's doing the

figure four leg lock with the bridge. I mean,

Charlotte Flair is awesome. And she's a fantastic,

fantastic heel. So good. I mean, if she got anything

from her father, it was that. But no, her in

-ring ability. Just watch her when she – if you

see her wrestle with other women – and Becky

is great. I love Becky. She's probably one of

my favorites right now. But I would put Charlotte

above her in -ring ability in terms of making

moves. Sometimes you watch women wrestling, and

it's a little clumsy because they're not used

to doing it. But you can tell Charlotte's been

doing this for a minute, or at least she's been

around in her whole freaking life because her

father is one of the greatest of all time. She

is awesome. She's a total package wrestler. And

in terms of women's wrestling, I would put her

really, really high. This is kind of low for

me for her. I would probably put her in the top

50. Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see

when all is said and done who you guys think

should be, as far as when the women go, who should

be the highest and how high they should have

gotten. TV's Mr. Neal, what do you think of Charlotte

being here at number 70? I have to say that modern

-day wrestling is kind of in the periphery for

me, so I'm not terribly familiar with her. Although,

like DJ said, seeing her wrestle one or two matches,

particularly the one at WrestleMania, she definitely

appears to be one of the better wrestlers on

the roster right now. I do have to give a shout

-out to she and Becky kind of antagonizing each

other on Twitter. I thought that was pretty funny.

Oh, that was real good. Real good, yeah. Yeah,

I agree. Matthew, what do you think of Charlotte

being here? I mean, she hasn't had a lot of time.

I mean, we talk about other female wrestlers

who were on. I would say her and AJ Lee probably

have had the most similar amount of time. Not

a lot of time. It's only been about seven years

for her. And AJ was only really around for about

maybe five years, four years, or something like

that. But she was also in a completely different

era where her style was kind of like... Yeah,

we don't really care that you can wrestle or

anything like that, but can you look good on

TV, kid? But, I mean, he's also not been one

that's been really on the – I don't watch Total

Divas, you know, now. I have in the past, but

don't judge me for that. But he's always been

– I mean, yeah, but like to DJ's point, great

talker on the mic. People hate her. People either

love her. If she's a face, people buy into that.

come all over on her now because she's going

against a heel. Uh, Bailey's now a heel and they're

kind of rivaling against her, but the case is

a heel now. Yes. Okay. I do like, I'm really

going to buy that one. Okay. I do really like

the idea of eventually I wish that will happen.

I don't know if it will or not, but the whole

four horsemen of the women for horsemen against

the, the four horsemen of MMA with Ryan Rousey

and some of the people in that next T I think

that would be a fantastic, like stable feud.

But, The WWE ones, because Ronda Rousey, I don't

know if she's on this list, so if I'm crapping

on her, I'm sorry. She doesn't translate as well

in WWE as I think people thought she would, in

terms of even wrestling ability. Because it's

mostly she's just throwing people around. Charlotte

has, like, when she does moves, these are wrestling.

She's a great wrestler. I mean, of all the technique

-wise, she's just very, very good. better than

i would think in terms of like you know uh sasha

banks who's great or becky who's great but she's

like her stuff is polished that's why i would

put her up there And to be fair, Ric Flair did

do some training with her as well. Let's move

on to number 69, back -to -back women, as far

as entrants go here. So 69 is going to be another

female wrestler. I love how the internet lists

retirement dates for these people, because honestly,

all they have to do is like, they could be out

of the business. 10 years and if they show up

and do one match somewhere all of a sudden that's

their new retirement date so um debut in 1995

technically i guess it says that she retired

in 2011 i think it would be much closer to like

2002 um and not a lot of different ring names

unless you just choose like the just joni name

but most people know her as china at the stable

of Degeneration X. Obviously made a lot of firsts

for women when it came into wrestling. WWF Intercontinental

Champion twice, WWF Women's Champion once, inducted

into the Hall of Fame just this year with Degeneration

X. I'm going to get your guys' thoughts on China,

but then I'm also going to get your guys' thoughts

on different stables or families and how that's

all going to shake out. We've just talked about

Billy Gunn and Sean Waltman and now Chyna. Obviously,

there's some more members of Generation X that

I think most people would expect to see. We have

staples like the Four Horsemen. We have the Samoan

family, the Hart family. Who's going to reign

supreme with the most members? And how do you

feel as far as Chyna coming in at number 69?

And does she deserve to be above the likes of

the other female wrestlers we've talked about

so far, starting with you, Matthew Stewart? an

interesting one because when she first came in

the scene she was just some big amazonian like

body like bodyguard basically for for triple

h and for sean michaels and then when you actually

saw her her wrestle i mean it was more like a

bruising style it wasn't i wouldn't say it's

as polished as Charlotte, because I think Charlotte

has a much more polished look, but she was the

one that was breaking down the barriers where

it's like, hey, I'm making room to make sure

that all you ladies can fight later on down the

line and maybe take it pretty seriously. And

then when she was putting the work to Jeff Jarrett,

I know that's DJ's favorite, but still, doing

the matches with him, that was pretty cutting

edge at the time too. I mean, you could always

see stuff like that in Japan where like, women

fighting men and things like that but this was

like on worldwide stage where you had a formidable

woman fighting a guy who was basically treating

her like shit too which was like the worst like

slap in the face of what he was doing to her

so it was important for that you know the movement

of women in wrestling and it sucks you know she

got involved in a lot of crazy stuff and probably

drugs and everything else that happened with

her but man i mean the ninth wonder of the world

man If you don't see another woman on this list,

I wouldn't be angry. The other thing that's interesting

is when, you know, the era that she wrestled

in that she was able to do the stuff that she

did, because like we talked about, that was not

an era where women were being necessarily respected

in the ring. They weren't doing a lot of the

actual physical stuff. It was more just, you

know, for the looks and the TNA type stuff. But

she was able to kind of overcome all of that

and actually do stuff in the ring from a physical

standpoint, which is definitely ahead of her

time from, you know, she would have fitted right

in now, but she had to do that back when that

wasn't an accepted thing. I think that maybe

she should get some credit for being able to

kind of go up against those types of odds too.

DJ, what do you think? I agree with you. She,

all the other ladies, when they took a bump,

you, you know, you, you, you can almost see that.

Yeah. You know, even the wrestlers, when they're

delivering them, they would not deliver them

fully. But with China, it was like, she was just

like everybody else. She would take a stunner,

like anybody else, like a pedigree, like anybody,

every move. And you didn't like get that to welling

up. Cause she was a, powerhouse and a trailblazer

as Matt's talking about so yeah again the thing

about D -Generation for some reason it's just

when they split off I just it's good it's just

it doesn't feel as good as when they're together

when they're together it's they're I mean they're

upper echelons. So it's kind of hard for me to

judge Chyna. Do I judge her on when she was just

the bodyguard with Triple H or do I judge her

when they kind of had her come out with the fire

cannons and all the other stuff? I think I prefer

her when she was just the brute strength. She's

essentially the muscle of D -Generation X. That

was pretty awesome. She almost replaced, it was

like the Rick Rude replacement it seems like

at one point. She was trained by Killer Kowalski,

build height and weight was 5 '10 and 180. Neil,

I want to get your reaction to something Matthew

said, because he said if he didn't see another

woman show up on the list, he couldn't necessarily

complain. Is this the last of the female wrestlers,

or is there somebody that you're holding out

hope for? I'm trying to remember who was already

on the list. I think there's a couple more female

wrestlers I would like to be on here, maybe Medusa,

although I can't imagine Medusa being higher

than Chyna. China was, I think, I'm going to

speak to something DJ just said, that when she

was like this big brute force, when she's just

kind of like this silent bodyguard, kind of this

really nasty looking, looked like she could just.

plow right through you if she really wanted to

that she was really amazing and then she she

started talking and it was like it was like lucille

ball uh breathed in a pound of sand and i'm like

oh it was like it was like 10 times more gravelly

than bonnie tyler Oh, my God. A little Kathleen

Turner action there. A little bit. But, yeah,

I don't like what they did with her later, where

she's coming out with the huge cannon and hanging

off of Eddie Guerrero. I mean, it was funny,

but it kind of went against the big silent killer

character she was initially. So I really wish

they would have kept her in that area where she

was just like a really imposing threat and not

just kind of like someone else's hanger on. All

right, so China at number 69. Let's move on to

number 68. Interesting to see how many modern

wrestlers we get in this countdown as well that

are still doing it, and not just hanging on by

a thread, I mean, but actually still doing it.

This man debuted in 2003, trained by Al Snow

and Bill DeMott, who most people know as Hugh

Morris from WCW days. Ring name, The Calgary

Kid, or maybe just Mike Mizanin. Shortened it

up and started just going by The Miz, though.

So we're talking about the Miz here at number

68. Obviously, he has all of his reality shows

and that type of stuff and a whole lot of belts.

WWE Champion once, United States twice, Intercontinental

eight times, tag teams with John Morrison with

Big Show with John Cena with Damian Mizdow, SmackDown

with Shane McMahon tag team, Big Show with World

tag teams, Money in the Bank. 25th Triple Crown

Champion, all kinds of other stuff that we could

talk about. But DJ, what do you think? Is The

Miz worthy of being in the top 100? Is it too

soon to rank him here or does he deserve it?

I guess in terms of me doubting him, he could

be on this list because when I first heard the

guy from the real world has gone on the WWE,

it's, oh God. And he's a Cleveland. Cavaliers

fan? No, I'm not. Get out of here. I mean, that's

no. But I mean, I've watched him, his fights

with Daniel Bryan and even the Shane McMahon

stuff. And to see that and then go back to younger

me and when I heard he was joining WWE, I'd have

never thought that would happen where he was

actually. actually great performer who's funny

on the mic, who has a pretty cool gimmick, who's

better as a heel WWE, as a face. He does not

work. But yeah, I can see him on this list. I

think this is really, really high because I would

never rank the Miz over people like Samoa Joe

or something like that. Again, I'm going to hold

the Samoa Joe over your head for the rest of

time. But yeah, to defy expectations is what

he's done. I can see him being on this list.

Maybe not this high. I did not vote him on my

list. He wasn't established enough or big enough,

I guess, for me to put him on the list. I guess

I would have been fine with him coming in at

like 95 through 100 or something like that, like

sneaking in right in that section. I don't see

him as number 68 overall, but apparently some

people did. TV's Mr. Neal, have you had any exposure?

I know you said you don't watch a lot of stuff

current days, but do you know who The Miz is

and do you think he deserves a spot? I do know

who he is. When I first saw him, I was kind of

getting a little bit of a David Arquette vibe.

I'm like, who is this guy coming to the world

of wrestling and do things? And then months later,

I'm like, wait, he actually got good? But beyond

that, I'm really not that familiar with him,

so I can't really speak too much about him. Apparently,

he's awesome. Matthew, I'm saying he's not deserving.

That's just awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Matt,

I'm saying he's not deserving. What do you say?

I think it's going to be interesting to see what

other modern and by modern I'll say started out

between, let's say, 2004 till current or something

like that. Because the way things switch around

so quickly in like wrestling were. I don't know

if people are going to look at title reigns.

You read the title reign. It's like eight -time

Intercontinental Champion. He probably held the

belt more times than people that are way more

important than him. I'm sure he held the Intercontinental

Championship more than Bret Hart. Things like

that. Does that make him more – does it make

him better than Bret Hart? Does it make him better

than a lot of other people? That's why I don't

think I voted him on my top 100. I appreciate

that he's – guy who said yeah i love wrestling

on on the reality show and then he became a wrestler

and actually became a pretty good wrestler at

that and also a very good heel so i appreciate

that whole thing but i don't know it's it's one

of these things where at a certain point i will

probably take this countdown seriously at a certain

point so i guess i'm taking it seriously now

where i'm like i don't know about this guy i

don't know if he's top 100 material but if you're

gonna judge it on title reigns and how many belts

he has sure and he's a you know triple crown

or whatever you want to call it like you know

champion with wwe he's won every belt practically

so i mean if that is the barometer of what's

going to make a top 100 i mean it's going to

be interesting to see who is above him at this

point who i and i hope there's a lot more people

who all be happy with above him but he's fine

the ms is fine and he's entertaining and is he

fine Speaking of, if we're just looking at the

men for modern wrestlers, it's really just been

Samoa Joe at 87 and Miz at 68 so far. That's

the only two that are currently a thing or at

least relevant that we've talked about so far.

It's interesting, though, because you are right.

At some point, the conversation becomes not.

Are they top 100 worthy? It's the changes to

where should they have fallen? You know what

I mean? Like, you know, how high should they

have been? It's no longer eventually gets no

longer debatable whether they deserve it or not.

So I don't know if we're quite there yet. Let's

go on to number 67. A new member here, maybe

representing what we lost when we lost has and

Raven for the ECW group, I guess, made his debut

in 1990. Once went by the ring name of Rob Zatkowski,

but most people know him as Rob Van Dam. RBD

coming in here at number 67. Long career, a lot

of different places where he was at, including

ECW, WCW, WWF, TNA, and stops in between, I'm

sure. A lot of gold. Probably too much to mention.

Maybe some of the highlights here. WWE Champion

one time. ECW World Heavyweight Champion one

time. Intercontinental Champion six times. European

once. Tag Team once with Rey Mysterio. World

Tag Team once with Kane and once with Booker

T. 7th Grand Slam Champion. 15th Triple Crown

Champion. Also known as one of the greatest matches

ever for tables, ladders, and chairs number four.

But what do you guys think of Rob Van Dam starting

with TVs, Mr. Neal? Wasn't he in one of the earliest

Million Dollar Man sketches? He brought him in

from the crowd. Wasn't that him? Maybe. The answer

is yes. It was a rhetorical question. But anyway.

I loved Rob Van Dam. Mainly know him from his

WWF run. Was not watching ECW, so I don't have

that memory of him. But I did like his run in

the early 2000s when he came in. In spite of

being part of the invasion, he was one of the

better parts of it. Was easily the breakaway

star from that because they didn't have Sting

for some reason. So the next best thing was Rob

Van Dam, and he was kind of like the de facto

face in a heel faction. Yeah, lots of belts.

I didn't understand him teaming with a lot of

people like Kane. I didn't get that. But the

only thing I remember about that was he was in

the ring when they de -masked Kane. immediately

turned heel and destroyed rom van damme um i'm

sure you guys have a lot more to say about him

i just don't know his ecw stuff i would say that

for me he's definitely worthy of being in the

list i i had him real close to where he falls

right now i one of those people that had the

rare opportunity to be successful in ecw and

in wwf which a lot of people didn't necessarily

make that transition or or were relegated to

like the hardcore division or something of that

nature uh so i like that he was actually able

to elevate a little bit past that dj what do

you think of rob van dam coming in here yeah

i had to watch a little bit of the the ecw stuff

and when some of my my friend had told me this

guy looks just like john claude van dam and he's

doing frog splashes i'm like okay all right and

then he had these cool airbrush tights or whatnot

and uh And again, a lot of my history in wrestling

is connected to the video games. He was the one

I made when we didn't have him. And he's the

one I use when we did have him. And I tried to

recreate the Van Daminator because you couldn't.

It wasn't a move in the game. But yeah, my biggest

disappointment is that when he came to WWE, he

never was as awesome as we're talking before,

as he was in ECW, where he was just like the

end all to be all. He had a couple of nice medium

sized runs, but he was never like. how he was

in my mind and how I used him in the damn game

where he was like the champion of champions and

all that other stuff. And in terms of in -ring

ability, he's great, but man... For him to grab

a mic and just to start talking like, you know,

the stoner of all stoners, which he is. He still

is to this day. He was just on recently. He was

doing frog splashes high out of his mind. It's

just disappointing. He could have been somebody.

Matthew, what do you think about Rob Van Dam

at number 67? I liked him. I mean, he was one

of the guys that, yeah, he couldn't really do

a lot on the mic, but he let the wrestling kind

of do. the talking for him. I mean, and he had

the fights with Sabu and ECW and all the feuds

he would have. The Van Damon era was just like

an awesome, like you can't do stuff like that

anymore. So he was like in this era, this bubble

era where wrestling was completely awesome and

amazing in violence and over the top. And he

had what Bill Alfonso on as his manager all the

time with a fucking whistle. God damn that whistle.

Oh God, that whistle. Oh, boy, it was so bad.

But, and then, you know, he got the little run,

and, you know, but he was so, I mean, I would

say, aside from probably Samoa Joe on this list,

I'm trying to think, I'm hesitant to say who

else is as over on the list so far as Rob Van

Dam, because when he would come out and that

music would hit, people would be like, yes, yes!

He's not one of a kind! He's not one of a kind!

Yeah, and then he's like, Rob! And everybody

would say it at the same time. And it was just

magic at the time. I think if we're looking at

most over people, maybe like you mentioned, and

maybe I throw junkyard dog in there. Yeah. But

yeah, there hasn't been a lot of like beloved,

like junkyard. That was like a bull, like a beloved

wrestler, but like. Like people like they're

chanting, like, no, even Sami Zayn. He's not

going to make the list. I like Sami Zayn a lot.

He's really over it. I like his theme song a

lot. So maybe I'm a sucker for good theme songs,

too. That's a key part. I do love ska. I love

ska. All right. Moving on to number 66 on our

list. This man made his debut in 1995. Built

from Tampa, Florida or Toronto, Ontario, Canada,

depending on which company you were talking to.

He's known as Conquistador Dos. The male nurse

or maybe just Christian Cage. So Christian coming

in here at number 66. Obviously, most of his

career has been most known for WWE, WWF. Also

spent some time, though, in TNA and New Japan,

as well as a couple other independent leagues.

A lot of gold, just like a lot of the other people

were talking about. ECW champion twice, world

heavyweight champion. for two times. European

once, Hardcore once, Light Heavyweight once,

Intercontinental four times, Tag Team nine times,

seven of them with Edge, once with Lance Storm,

once with Chris Jericho, 23rd Triple Crown Champion,

11th Grand Slam Champion. Christian is coming

in at number 66. Go right back to you, Matt.

What do you think about Christian being right

here? Christian, your time has... Let's talk

about another guy who had... And he was such

a little dick. Just a little pecker. I guess

I hated that guy. From the time when he was playing

a vampire to the time he was on his own and doing

his own thing, I liked Christian. He was different

than Edge in some ways. He was a little bit whinier,

a little bit more kind of like, man. He was kind

of like the guy you can take more seriously than

Raven because he was almost like a Raven type

character who was complaining and bitching about

his station in life. But he always had like...

great matches and I mean great as a single wrestler

but I always will always I would just always

think about Edge and Christian all together like

they're connected at you know at birth at this

point the two of those guys and I like them a

lot but You know, I'm hoping to see his counterpart

way further up the list, which I think we will.

But that's my kind of general opinion of Christian.

I think he's right where he needs to be. This

is where we're starting to see the cream, you

know, much. I mean, we see the cream rises to

the top. We're starting to see that cream kind

of get there. DJ, agree? I mean, if you think

about the Hardy boys, the Dudley boys, and the

Edge and Christian, when all three of those tag

teams split, Edge is probably the best of them.

I guess you could say Jeff Hardy, but I would

put Christian up there because Christian could

wrestle and he had mic skills. You know how high

I keep mics. You have to have the mic, man. Especially

during that era, it was... Half of it was wrestling.

Half of it was behind the curtain. When you're

doing scenes with Mick Foley, you're doing scenes

with The Rock, and you're doing scenes with Stone

Cold Steve Austin or Kurt Angle, you have to

be good on the mic. And Christian was very good.

He might be just as good or better on the mic

than Edge was. Edge was, you know, super baby

face, but Christian was very clever. And that's

why I love that group together, because they

were just so funny. And I like watching the...

I think WWE channel has that thing where they,

they, they stole it from Jon Favreau where they

had dinner and they talk about their three. Yeah.

And I like watching the one where I think it's

edging Christian and Kurt Angle. And they're

just talking about, or edging Christian Mick

Foley and just talking about all the stuff that

they did and whatnot. And you can just tell that

a lot of those ideas were from Christian. Right.

Like, you know, So, yeah, Christian, I like him

a lot. He never really exploded. He did get some

stuff. But, I mean, of all of those separate,

like he did better than Devon. He did better

than Bubba. He did better than Matt. I would

put him comparable to Jeff Hardy. And then, yeah.

Right. We'll have to see how that all plays out.

Matt, you'll like this one. He was once, I don't

know what this division is or what this championship

means or who this other person is, but he was

in the international wrestling Alliance. He was

a IWA tag team champion one time with a partner

named Earl, the orderly. What did you say? What

was one of his other things? Man nurse, which

is the greatest name ever. I'm sure that was

when he was the male nurse. Male nurse and Earl

the Orderly. I don't know. Occupational gimmicks,

FB. Occupational gimmicks, baby. That's why I

brought it up. What do you think of Christian

coming in right here? Well, for the benefit of

those of you with flash photography. There we

go. There we go. I really loved Christian, especially

after he broke off from Edge, just because he

just seemed like, well, he was supposed to be

Edge's little brother, and he just kind of seemed

like this little kid brother who was always kicking

around Edge. I did like when they were comedy

heels. I loved comedy heels when they would come

out and just bag on the local sports team. I

always thought it was hilarious. But when he

went... full heel and cut his hair, especially

when he cut his hair. I think he's one of the

few wrestlers that once they cut all that mop

off, he actually ended up looking a lot better

and really came out and became his own thing.

Yeah, just a great in -ring performer, great

mic skills. Doesn't get as much credit as Edge,

and I think that's kind of a shame. I think he's

actually better than Edge as far as mic skills

and probably just a little bit better in the

ring too, in my opinion. It's interesting, too,

because we talked about tag teams and kind of

how they would fare. And, you know, would one

member make it? Would both members make it if

they were good tag teams? And we'll have to kind

of wait and see how it goes. Because so far we've

seen, like, we've seen Bubba Ray Dudley yesterday.

Or last week, I mean, in that episode. And now,

obviously, we see Christian. We'll have to see

how many more of those we see and how they rank

compared to each other. So let's move on to 65.

And I guess it's fitting that we kind of stay

with a little bit of a tag team theme here. So

number 65. This gentleman debuted in 1983. He

was trained by Eddie Sharkey. I'm not going to

be able to name any of the other ring names because

he hasn't had any besides the one that we all

know him by. But maybe we should talk about some

of his tag team accolades. How about once the

WCW World Tag Team Champion with a guy named

Kenny Chaos? Or the WCW United States Tag Team

Champion one time with a guy named Eddie Gilbert?

Um, I don't think that's giving it away yet.

So let's give his normal tag team partner, which

was the eight, uh, seven time WCW tag team champion

with a guy named Scott Steiner. Um, one time

W U S tag team champion with Scott Steiner. We're

talking about Rick Steiner. I guess if you want

to go by his real name, he was also a WWF World

Tag Team Champion twice with Scott Steiner. We

don't need to go too much into him. I think everybody

knows who we're talking about. It's one half

of the Steiner Brothers. DJ, what do you think

of Rick Steiner showing up here? And how does

that kind of fit into the other conversation

with the likes of Christian and Bubba Ray? And

you were talking about maybe like the Hardys

and some of these other tag teams. I never thought

he'd be this high. If you would have told me

Scott Steiner, then yeah, because Rick Steiner.

I mean, again, forgive me. I remember him when

he was with Scott. I don't remember him where

he was just walking around. He was going solo.

So him being on here is a surprise to me. I mean,

great gimmick. I love the wrestling thing and

the dog and all that stuff. But it's just, you

know. The two of them, if you're talking about

edging Christian and then Scott and Rick, Rick

is not even close to what the accolades got.

Unless I'm missing something. Maybe I miss some

stuff. He was a world television champion for

WCW three times, and a U .S. WCW champion one

time. So I don't know what those are worth, but

he's in the Luthez Professional Wrestling Hall

of Fame in 2014. It's the only one I can find,

though, that he's in, so he hasn't made it to

any of these other ones yet. I don't know why.

What is the WWF waiting on as far as inducting

the Steiner brothers into the Hall of Fame? Is

Scott Steiner holding that up? I don't think

so. I don't know. But, Matthew, what do you think

of Rick Steiner showing up here at 65? If I'm

going to be blunt, if he's making it at 65, we're

going to see Scott Steiner down the line. We

have to. I mean, I wouldn't have thought five

times that, oh, yeah, Rick Steiner, he's going

to be on the list of top 100. Where's Scott?

You know, it's, it's easy to say the dog face

Gremlin. Oh, well and good, but works as a like

tag team so much better. I mean, I guess, no,

I don't know. I don't, I don't see why. Well,

and I guess it's, it could be a thing like this

isn't necessarily all just about singles wrestlers.

Like this isn't the top 100 single wrestlers.

So, I mean, it may be being on a great tag team

for long enough is enough to get you on the list.

Maybe where they. rank as opposed to their partners

who maybe had more of a single career could be

a different argument but as far as like being

part of one of the greatest tag teams of all

time is that enough to warrant a spot on the

top 100 yeah well i guess i don't know we saw

the anvil earlier on in the countdown way further

down the line he never really in my opinion i

mean i never really saw outside of him being

boo and things like that never saw him do anything

really substantial me personally i'm sure he

did a lot of other things, substantially single

wrestlers, but I mean, big pop a pump. I mean,

it's, if I want to see one part of the Steiner

brothers, I want to see Scott. I got it. I mean,

so we'll see if I'm seeing Rick here, we'll see

Scott further down the line. I don't want to

see, and even seeing Scott, if you do see Scott,

even further up the, further up the line, I don't

want to see him too high because he's great and

all, but. When you start getting into like, oh,

man, is he top 50 or top 40 or top 30? I don't

know. It's going to be interesting to see how

this kind of plays out, if it plays out. TV's

Mr. Neal. Weigh in on this discussion a little

bit. What do you think of Rick Steiner? I love

Rick Steiner. His gimmick is, get this, he's

a wrestler. What? He's got the wrestling, like

normal wrestling trunks. Yeah, normal singlet.

Loud colors on that singlet. Ear guards. Ear

guards. I love that thing. Can't really separate

them from Scotty, though. Great tag team, iconic

tag team, the Steiner brothers. Once they broke

off, I can only really think of one highlight

for Rick Steiner, and it's not really a highlight

because it was when Chucky was busting a promo

on him on Nitro. Really, really sad. Yeah. Well,

let's just keep this train right on moving because

we got another person next up that was also part

of a tag team that is fairly well known. But

I think you could make the argument that he was

well enough known as a single wrestler as well.

I'll have to get your guys' take on that. But

our number 64 debuted in 1978, was trained. We

could also be keeping track of how many people

were trained by Stu Hart because this is another

one. And we're talking about Davey Boy Smith,

the British Bulldog. I had him ranked much higher,

but that's because I've always been a huge fan

of the British Bulldog. I thought he was one

of the most impressive. human beings I've ever

seen when I was a kid. And they had plans at

different times to do more with him and to even

have him as a heavyweight champion. I'm sad that

those never materialized and kind of other stuff

got in the way for him. But I was glad that he

was the one that kind of was able to outlast

the Bulldogs and keep his career going a little

bit because his tag team partner as the British

Bulldogs, Dynamite Kid, seemed like he was a

little bit crazy based on the stories and whatnot.

A little bit crazy, but obviously spent some

time in the WWF, Stampede Wrestling, All Japan

Wrestling, WCW, back to WWF, etc. A lot of championships,

Intercontinental once, European twice, Hardcore

twice, Tag Team twice, once with Dynamite Kid,

once with Owen Hart, European Championship Tournament

member, World Tag Team Championship Tournament

member with Owen Hart. Matthew Stewart, what

do you think of Davey Boy Smith and the tag teams

continue here? Kind of think, do I like Davey

Boy Smith dreads or non -dreads? You like the

Bo Derek dreads? You like the Bo Derek dreads?

Yeah, I can't figure out what I like better.

I mean, it's funny. It's like one of the more

memorable things I remember with British Bulldog

is his mini feud he had with Repo Man. as well

he comes back to repo man with me you're the

only one that would bring up repo man he hung

him off like the ropes and it looked like he

was like really choking him and i mean these

are a lot of things when i'm a little kid i see

this like oh my god wrestling is so real he's

killing somebody in the ring um but i guess the

biggest thing for the british bulldog was when

he pinned Bret Hart in the middle of the ring

on Wembley. What was that? I forgot what it was.

SummerSlam 92. And the story behind that is like

Davey Bootsmith was like. out of his minds on

like a bender or something like that. And Brett

had to literally, I guess this is more of a testament

to how great of a performer Brett was than British

Bulldog, but he did the right thing for the Bulldog

at Wembley to make him basically a household

name. And of course, you know, he had, you know,

Matilda, the Bulldog coming down the ring, which

was always awesome. And I liked it when he turned

heel too, when he went with the new Hart Foundation,

he was like the badass with the short hair and

everything too. And yeah, I mean, the stuff he

would do was like, this guy was a huge guy that

could lift anything. It was just a massive specimen.

And, you know, again, another wrestler who, you

know, you know, way, way before you should have

passed, but passed you, but good, like, like

a great legacy, you know, and memorable as hell.

So. pwi gave that the match of the year 92 red

heart at summer slam um interesting here pw the

pwi had something called the 100 tag teams of

the quote -unquote pwi years which is the you

know the main years that they were um putting

out stuff he was actually ranked twice in the

top 100 tag teams at number 84 with owen hart

and number five with dynamite kids so that's

kind of an interesting uh thing to be on there

twice dj what do you think of um of david boy

smith and is it his tag team moments or is the

fact that he also had many singles runs that

helps him kind of come in at number 64 here.

I'm assuming it's, I mean, for me, it's the singles

run. Cause I, I remember that more than the tag

team stuff, but he's a heart man. I mean, you

came from the heart, the dungeon. So you're going

to be, if you're, if you have that credential,

I mean, that's going to. Essentially, you're

going to go, okay, you've won a championship.

If you've been trained by any of the hearts,

that may be more impressive than how many titles

you've had. If you've come out of that alive,

if you've come out of that and had a career in

the WWE or WWF or WCW, that is a humongous accolade.

Dave Boy Smith, yeah, of course, he has to be

here. TV's Mr. Neal, I agree. Yeah, I think he

belongs on the list. He's not one of my favorites,

actually. We're really going to have to talk

about, when we get to Bret Hart, talk about how

he would just walk people through matches and

make them look 10 times better than they actually

were. That SummerSlam match was an amazing Davey

Boy Smith match that never really had its equal

after that, before or after. Not really one of

my favorites. His gimmick was that he was British,

I guess. That's basically it. Oh, he was very

strong and he had a dog. Yeah, Bo Derek dreads.

Yeah, I like him without the dreads. He and Christian

belong to the cut my hair club. I think he looks

a lot better about it. That's really all I got

to say about the guy. He's not really one of

my top guys. All right. Fair enough. You're allowed

to have that opinion. I wish Alex was here for

this next one because we're getting into another

wrestler that was ranked in somebody's top 10.

I feel like I gave it away and who's that person

was. But I'm hoping you guys can help me out

because I'm not very familiar with this wrestler.

A lot of international success and obviously

more of a cultural icon, I think, in my book.

He debuted in 1934. He was actually ranked number

two by Alex overall. And he's falling here at

number 63, probably just because a lot of people

don't know of him or have blind spots when it

comes to him. We're talking about someone who

has statues of himself in a lot of different

places south of the border. And we're talking

about somebody who went by the ring name of El

Santo. El Santo, there's a statue of him in Tulasingo.

There's also statues of him in multiple other

places. In a lot of different Hall of Fames,

including the WWE, inducted him in 2018. Mostly

in Lucha matches and the Lucha scene. Is anybody

familiar with El Santo that can talk to him?

Otherwise, I'm going to... Okay, go for it, DJ.

When I say familiar with him, I watched a video

by a guy named, I forget his name, but he hosts

a YouTube show called Fact Fiend. And he was

explaining who this guy is. And this guy wasn't

just a wrestler. He was like the rock before

the rock. Like in Mexico, he was on television

and they would make. he would be in shows and

they wouldn't shoot him. They didn't want him

to take his mask off and they would make sure

that they would have a stunt double wear a mask.

Cause he would, they really want to imply they

took his mask off. It's such a big fricking deal.

And he's like one of these humongous, humongous

wrestlers back then. And when he actually did

on television, reveal himself, people were like

gasping. It was a big fricking deal. He was,

I think he transcended wrestling to the fact

where he would be in movies. Like they have nothing

to do with wrestling wearing a mask. So it was

El Santo. Yeah. So you, you would watch him and

he'd be at a dinner party or something wearing

a luchador mask, or he'd be driving a car with

his girlfriend wearing a luchador mask and wearing

like a three piece suit and a luchador mask.

It was just part of the culture and part of his

mythos back in the day. It says that his funeral

was considered one of the biggest in Mexican

history. And I believe he was also, I want to

say he was buried in the mask as well. I believe

that was one of his requests because, you know,

the silver one was one of the main ones that

he had, the silver mask. So, but yeah, a lot

of cultural appearances in TV shows, movies,

you know, some rock band or music video type

things that he was connected to. And he's also,

there's a cameo of him in the movie Coco from

Pixar a couple of years back. They found a way

to squeeze him in there as well. So I am going

to give Alex a chance to talk about El Santo

when he's on next, just to give him a minute

since he was ranked number two on his list. Did

they ever do the thing where he takes the mask

off and there's another mask on underneath? I'm

going to give you guys a link to the video where

the guy, he did something crazy like that. Like

not even his stunt double could wear. not have

a mask on something weird like that, where it

was like, it did not even want to imply that

it was, it was coming off. And then when it actually

did happen, when he was like in the sixties or

he was like, Oh, very, very old. It was like

a humongous deal where I'll send you guys a video,

but yeah, if you do do yourself a favor, look

up El Santo on fact fiend. And it was essentially

goes through his history. And it's more about

how he never took his mask off. It wasn't really

about his wrestling career. It was like everywhere

he went. He was in his house cutting his lawn.

He would never take his freaking mask off. It

was great. Nice. We've had quite a few. Well,

not quite a few. We've had a couple of the old

classics that have shown up as far as on the

American side. We had Vern Gagne and Gorgeous

George show up last time. We are going to go

there here for one now as well to a classic that

a lot of you guys are going to be familiar with,

I feel. And he was known for his persona, for

his flair, for his. charisma, I guess you could

say, and a lot of people obviously modeled their

careers after him. He debuted in 1969, trained

by, guess who, guys? Stu Hart. Trained by Stu

Hart. And we're talking about none other than

superstar Billy Graham. I did not know he was

trained by Stu Hart, so that is news to me. But

a lot of gold in the NWA and some other places

as far as the independent scene. was voted most

hated wrestler of the year in 1973 by the PWI.

He had voted the match of the year in 1977 with

Bruno Sammartino, match of the year in 78 with

Bob Backlund, WWF heavyweight champion once and

inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame in 2004. Obviously,

you know, people like Jesse the Body Ventura

and Hulk Hogan and even a little bit maybe Ric

Flair and some others modeled their careers after

the superstar. So, Matthew, what do you think

of superstar Billy Graham? showing up here at

number 62. He's before my time, so I never really

saw him wrestle, but his look has been iconic

in what you just said, Kev, where it's like,

you know, Ric Flair, Macho Man, you know, Justice

of the Body, things like that. And even like,

if you compare it almost like I feel early Hulk

Hogan, if you put him and Billy Graham next to

each other, they're almost like the splitting

image in a lot of ways too. So I can't, I mean.

Can't speak for his wrestling prowess. I mean,

I'm sure he's a big, strong man who, of course,

I mean, if you're in the ring with Bob Backlund

and Bob Backlund, sadly, will likely not show

up on this list. But I love that Bob Backlund

a lot when he snaps and he's crazy. He'll Bob

Backlund. He'll Bob Backlund. But also a great

wrestler. I mean, he was legit like a real great

wrestler in and of himself. But I know the persona

of Billy Graham, but I. can't wax like, okay,

he was a great performer. I think he was more,

you know, larger than life personality, which

lended, you know, credence to everybody. I mean,

he, he was a trendsetter. I mean, if it wasn't

for him, you wouldn't have had all three of those

other mega stars in the ring. Right. Also one

of the, you know, obviously we had a lot of people

that were more like in that era, a lot of your

stars were, you know, wrestlers. Wrestling background,

so to speak. He was one of the ones that was

a bodybuilder. That was kind of that type of

physique and that type of stuff. And I think

interesting, you know, obviously he has had some

brushes with WWE and the McMahons as far as calling

them out and doing shoots on them and whatnot.

But I'm glad that he was able to get in the Hall

of Fame regardless. DJ, what do you think of

superstar Billy Graham, or as his real name would

be, Eldridge Wayne Coleman? I remember when Scott

Steiner came out, we were just talking about

him. He kind of stole, not stole, but he looks

very similar to older Billy Graham when he had

the bald head and the weird painted blonde goatee.

You would flex the same. I would love to ask,

he probably already said this on record somewhere,

did he model your look after Superstar Billy

Graham? he's one of those guys where his physique

was very weird to look at because people aren't

built that way. He looks like one of those muscle

men you leave out in the sun and it's kind of

melted where it's all shoulders and there's no

legs that's running around. But no, yeah, superstar

Billy Graham is, I mean, he's in a rap song.

Matt wouldn't be able to, is it Redman? Somebody

had. use his name in a rap song. I mean, yeah.

Mid -90s, early 2000s, they're always dropping

wrestling names in their rap lyrics. Superstar

Billy Graham was a go -to, so yeah. TV's Mr.

Neal. Any thoughts on Superstar Billy Graham

before we move on? I'm afraid this is going to

be a giant bag of sand because he's way before

my time. He's only 76, Neil. He's only 76 years

old. Looking at him, he is the archetypal heel

wrestler. I can see his influence on a lot of

modern -day wrestlers who I was a big fan of,

but I'm not familiar with his in -ring work at

all. I just know of his name and his aura, and

I can say, yes, he... Probably definitely belongs

on this list, but I can't really speak to him.

Fair enough. Number 61, we're not going to spend

too much time on because we accidentally talked

about him last time. So making a huge jump from

the 70s all the way up to 61 would be Bam Bam

Bigelow. So we talked about him last time. He

actually should have been talked about right

now. So go back to last episode and hear our

thoughts about Bam Bam. DJ, any quick thoughts

since you weren't on that episode about Bam Bam

being at 61? How did he get into that suit? I

mean, good God. How much powder? How much gold

bond did he use? All tattoo. He's actually naked.

He just airbrushed himself. I wouldn't believe

that. I'd accept that. I'd take that. He was

on a lot of people's list, and that's what gets

him all the way up to here at number 61. I can't

believe the trends we're having here. So how

about another tag team member here at number

60? Apparently, this is the episode where we

see a lot of tag team members. So number 60,

he debuted in 1992, trained by Dory Funk Jr.,

was known as Ingus Jinx, the Rahway Reaper. Surge?

Wolverine? High Voltage? How about... Isan Hardy?

Or just Matt Hardy? Matt Hardy is our number

60. Doesn't need much of an introduction. We've

talked about the Hardy Boys, the Dudley Boys,

Edge and Christian, et cetera. Obviously, most

tag -related things, including three -time Raw

champions with Jeff Hardy, with Bray Wyatt, with

MVP, SmackDown tag with Jeff Hardy, TNA tag with

Jeff Hardy, six other times as world tag teams

in the WWF with Jeff Hardy. Did have some single

stuff as well. I don't need to go into it too

much more, though. Let's start with Matthew Stewart.

What do you think of Matt Hardy being here at

number 60, and how does that fit into the conversation

with the likes of Davey Boy Smith, Rick Steiner,

Christian, Bubba Ray Dudley, and those other

tagged people we've talked about? This is a guy

who, in the same vein, I think, of Christian,

kind of reinvented himself as different characters.

I mean, he started with, you know, him and Jeff

as the good old hardy boys, you know, jumping

around and doing high -flying stuff. And then

he broke off because they had the big feud and

he was met. Was it version 2 .0 or whatever?

Version 1. That stuff was... Hilarious. Internet,

folks. The Internet is cool. I'm going to take

advantage of the Internet. And then, of course,

later on that one, he took full advantage of

the Internet and went completely viral with the

whole broken Mac gimmick, which, I mean, that

is basically a promotion. TNA saying, look, man,

I don't really know what to do. Can you just

do something that's going to be really weird?

He's like, I guess. How about I? dye my hair

one color on one side and do really weird stuff

and things that are just kind of out of left

field. I like Matt Hardy a lot. I think wrestling

prowess, Jeff is the, I would say he's the better

wrestler. He was more of the underdog. He was

more of the face that everybody, he was super,

I think, well over, well more over than Matt,

except for the broken gimmick. It will be interesting

to see. I think Matt will show up on the list

at this point. It's a matter of where. But it

is kind of this trend of seeing these tag team

wrestlers showing up on the list and seeing where

they land and trying to figure out where their

cohort or their tag team partner is going to

land. Because most of these tag team partners

are going to land somewhere. It's just a matter

of where. I want to say that they credit him

for a lot of the ideas that the Hardys came up

with over the years and that he was more of the

maybe not necessarily the brains, but the idea

creative person behind the two. I'm hoping I'm

getting that right. But I want to say they say

that that is Matt. I can see that. DJ, what do

you think of Matt Hardy coming in? And does he

deserve a spot in the top 100? I think out of

the Hardy boys, it does make sense that he was

the brains because one of those other table for

threes. He did admit that like he liked to branch

off. He liked branching off the simple fact that.

When he was with the Hardys, Jeff was more of

a risk taker than him. He didn't really like,

you know, jumping off of a Titan Tron or, you

know, tables falling out of a ring. You know,

he would do it, but it was more Jeff's thing.

And he liked to reinvent himself. And though

his singles run for me that I remember is the

thing that Matt brought up. version one Matt

Hardy and I just love how every time he would

do it, it'd be another Matt does not like snow

or something like that. I used to love those.

He didn't have to wrestle after that. He could

have just walked out and like Homer Simpson's

dad just walk right back out the ramp. I wouldn't

need him to wrestle because those are really

entertaining to me. But again, these are just

guys that are kind of like hampered with they

are more famous for, especially him being a Hardy.

being in the tag team you know he did have a

okay singles career but he will forever no matter

what happens it's going to be because he was

with jeff tv's mr neal any thoughts on man hardy

before we move on yeah i just wish that he could

have uh Shook off the stink of being one of the

Hardys. I mean, the Hardy boys, great tag team,

but he really deserved to be recognized as a

singles wrestler just because he was so entertaining.

He was so funny. The math facts that we just

mentioned. Great. Him being able to meme himself

back into a job just for having girlfriends cheating

on him in real life. That was beautiful. Let's

move on then to number 59. So we're into our

50s now, and we're going to have another classic

old -school wrestler here coming in. I don't

know how many people know him by his real name,

which would have been Herman Gustaf Rode Jr.,

but I don't think many people knew him by that.

They probably just knew him by Buddy Rogers,

the Nature Boy. Before the Nature Boy, debuted

in 1939, retired in 1982. Let's go over some

Hall of Fames that he's in. NWA Hall of Fame

2010. He is also in the Professional Wrestling

Hall of Fame and Museum in 2002. He is in the

St. Louis Wrestling Hall of Fame in 2008. He

is in the WWF Hall of Fame in 94. He is in the

VCW Hall of Fame in 2018. I don't even know what

half of these Hall of Fames are. The Wrestling

Observer Hall of Fame in 96. He's got accolades

when it comes to Hall of Fames, that's for sure.

He was also the WWF World heavyweight champion

one time as the inaugural champion there. DJ,

any knowledge about the Nature Boy Buddy Rogers?

Did you add a W to that one? Was it WWWF? That

was before. That was when I was Vince's dad at

one point. Oh, okay, okay. It's just funny because

this was the era of the time. In 1939, Buddy

Rogers is the name you go with. But in 2019,

he would definitely go by Herman Gustav. There's

no possible way Vince is going to be like, yeah,

we're going to use Herman Gustav. That's a cool

freaking name. But in 1939, you can't go by Herman.

You got to go by one of those old, hey, drink

some milk, kids, before you go to bed. You got

to go by Buddy Rogers, you know. I'm not familiar

with him. Herman Gustav sounds like a drug lord.

Some kind of man who kills for money. I'm not

a Highlander, so I do not remember Herman Gustav

from 1939. But you've just named 55 Hall of Fames

he's in, so I'm assuming he needs to be here.

He held the NWA and the WWF at the time, which

is now known as the WWE title. It says he's one

of three men in history to have held both world

titles, the other two names being AJ Styles and

Ric Flair. So I guess there's that. Matthew Stewart,

how does this nature boy deserve? Is there room

for more than one nature boy in the top 100?

Oh, there's got to be room for a nature boy.

There's always room for a nature boy. There's

always room for a nature boy. It's a weird title.

Can I just say that first of all? Have you ever

thought of that? Whenever I think of the word

nature boy, I think of like if I was a butt -ass

naked somewhere because I'm in nature. Where

did that come from? I don't know. I'm the nature

boy. Like 50 years from now, when we look back

at AEW, is Jungle Boy going to have a different,

like, is that going to be a different reference?

The Nature Boy. The Forest Boy. The Swapwoods

Man. I don't know what you really want to do

with that. I mean, I guess the biggest thing,

I mean, you go with all the Hall of Fames and,

you know, the history. I mean, he wrestled for,

what, nearly four or five decades as well, too.

So, yeah, he had the longevity and he held. all

these belts of the territories at the time. And,

of course, I think most famously, you know, Ric

Flair took his name gimmick and used it as kind

of like an ode to him in a lot of ways. Like,

oh, thank you for, you know, passing the torch

type thing. So never saw the guy wrestle. I mean,

this is the era of wrestling I'm not familiar

with. I'm sure most, like DJ said, we're not

Highlanders here. But, yeah, I mean, I'm glad

he's on the list for historical wrestling. So

there you go. We need some like history expert

to tell us like where we got these right or wrong

between like Gorgeous George and Vern Gagne and

Buddy Rogers and Billy Graham. Stories are like,

you guys are idiots. TV's Mr. Neal, is he deserving?

I'm assuming you would say yes. I guess so. It's

another one of these cases where I'm like, hey,

I know that name. I can't wait until we get to

talk about. George Hackenschmidt and Frank Gantz.

Buddy Rogers sounds like a guy that changes your

tire. Thanks, Buddy Rogers. Oh, Lord. All right,

let's keep going then. Let's go to number 58

as we make our way through the 50s here to end

today's episode. We're going to talk about a

guy that made his debut in 1979, was trained

by Fritz von Erich. He went by the ring names

of The Convict. Derek Wood, or King Duggan, or

maybe just Hacksaw Jim Duggan. Hacksaw Jim Duggan

comes in at number 58 here. Spent a lot of time

in Mid -South, WWF, WCW. He made a stop in TNA?

Why? What? He couldn't have. He was too old by

then. Old good things go to death. Oh, my God.

That seems wrong on so many levels. Anyways,

as far as any type of gold or anything like that

or Hall of Fames, he was inducted into the Professional

Wrestling Hall of Fame in 2018. He was a WCW

World Television Champion once, a United States

Heavyweight Champion once, WWE won the Royal

Rumble in 1988, WWE Hall of Fame 2011, Slammy

Award for Best Vocal Performance. I don't know

which. they're referring to and greatest hit

1987. I must've missed that. Feud of the year

in the wrestling observer newsletter, 1985 with

Ted DiBiase, most improved 1982, most unimproved

in 1989. That's a word. They voted him the most

unimproved in 1989. Oh, come on. Mean man. This

is mean man. TV's Mr. Neal. We'll start with

you this time. What do you think? Hacksaw Jim

Duggan in the fifties. Oh my God. When you said

the convict, I was like, how the hell did nails

get on here? God, it's, it's Duggan. I love Duggan.

One of my favorite cartoon wrestlers from when

I was a kid is so ridiculous. He'd come out with

the two by four. It looks like he took a couple

of two by fours to the face. Like one eye's pointed

one way. The other one's pointed the other. You

can't tell what the hell he's looking at. A really

funny guy. Never really. got any accolades never

really won any titles in wwf i know he got oh

he won the u .s title from uh stunning steve

austin of all people jesus and a wcw pay -per

-view and that's when that's when uh uh austin

was like i'm out of here but uh i i love i can't

help but love him he's so ridiculous I mean,

he definitely is proof that all you have to do

is wave an American flag to get over with the

fans at times, I guess. DJ, Hacksaw, 58, worthy

or not? If I ever was going to cast Seth Rogen

as a wrestler, it would be Hacksaw, Jim Tuckett.

I have a question. It was more of a question

than a comment. Was he ever a heel? I don't remember

him ever being a bad guy. Yeah, at one point

he turned on America just like Sergeant Slaughter.

Really? I missed that part. Didn't he at one

point? I thought they did that. I was around

for that, but I don't remember Hacksaw being

a bad guy. Team Canada in WCW, and it didn't

last very long just because nobody wanted to

boo Hacksaw Jim Duggan. I mean, every time I

see him, it was just like he's automatic cheap

pop. It was automatic. Oh, he got a two -by -four

to American flag. I was thinking when you were

talking about him, I'm like, I think he was always

a face, but you guys, one little incident where

he was a bad guy. Yeah, he's a... he's iconic

in terms of my childhood as I remember him a

lot for a, one of the weirdest gimmicks, not

the weirdest, but this in terms of how basic

it was, it was essentially a two by four, a burly

beard, an American flag, and you can be wrestling

for 20 years. It's just crazy. I don't know if

we can really count his, his team up with Lance

storm as anything legit though. Matthew, what

do you think of hacksaw being 58? I mean, he

was just a caricature of everything in America,

I guess. He just did near -do -well, like, oh,

thumbs up. And his finishing move was literally

like a football. He would get down in a forward

stance and run at you. He wouldn't spear you.

He would just kind of football at you, shoulder

block you. That was his finishing move. But it's

funny because I know we talked about the Iron

Sheik earlier on. in the countdown as well. And

if you've ever seen that documentary, The Sheik,

all about the Iron Sheik, he's kind of the him

and the Sheik were like feuding at the time.

And, you know, they were, they were going back

and forth, like, you know, Iranian versus or

wherever Iron Sheik was representing Iraq. It

was like America versus the Middle East. And

then they were literally in a car together, like

drunk or high as shit. And they got pulled over

in Georgia and they let Duggan go because he

was American hero. And they threw the Sheik in

jail. And this was like the beginning of like

the end of kayfabe in a lot of ways. If for anything,

he could almost be more infamous for almost like

destroying the facade of bad guys versus good

guys. Because you can't have Hacksaw hanging

out with the Iron Sheik and getting drunk and

drinking Budweiser's at a bar or something like

that. Right. Whatever. No, I take that back.

Cocaine. Sorry. Sorry. I apologize. All right.

So Hacksaw, Jim Duggan takes the number 58 spot,

which means we're moving on to number 57. This

wrestler made his debut in 1999. We haven't had

a lot of those that were kind of turned into

the millennial there. Some people might know

him as Khan. No, nobody knows him as Khan. Some

people might know him as Leviathan. Well, maybe

a couple people. Some people might know him as

Drax the Destroyer or Deacon Batista. Drax the

Destroyer is not a wrestling name, guys. That's

from Guardians of the Galaxy. We're talking about

Mr. Dave Batista. who is coming in here at the

57th spot. Obviously now probably more known

for his movie roles, but Once Upon a Time was

a big -time wrestler. World Heavyweight Champion

four times in the WWE. World Tag Team Champion

three times. Two with Ric Flair, one with John

Cena. WWE Champion twice. WWE Tag Champion once

with Rey Mysterio. Two -time Royal Rumble winner,

I believe. Feud of the Year 2005 with Triple

H. Feud of the Year in 2007 with Undertaker.

Most overrated in 2006. Whatever. Wrestler of

the Year. wrestler of the year from the pwi in

2005 and the most improved wrestler of the year

in 2005 but then the wrestling observer newsletter

most overrated in 2006 screw them we're right

we were wrong i'm sorry tv's mr neil batista

one of the more not necessarily modern day wrestlers

but not too far in the past like we've had with

a bunch of the other ones on our countdown what

do you think of batista coming in at 57 uh You

know what? When he debuted, I was just a little

too aware of the mystique of Goldberg and just

WWE trying to recapture that sort of wrestler,

kind of the big, muscly guy that has the big

power moves. So I couldn't help but kind of pigeonhole

him into that category. So I never really dug

him that much, although I did like the thumbs

up. thumbs down thing they did in uh in evolution

and uh screwing over uh oh who was it uh randy

orton yeah randy orton that was that was kind

of a good thing and then they brought it back

when he eventually defected that was a good callback

but otherwise not a really big fan of his in

work in ring work uh just not i'm not a batista

fan i guess And more hate from Neil on these

big muscle bound guys. He's not Vince McMahon.

He also has an undefeated MMA career. I want

to know. Um, so for whatever that's worth, I

do remember seeing a match of him when he was

the Leviathan. I believe it's against Lesnar

in, uh, I can't remember where that was at, but

that is an interesting match because nobody knows

who either guy is at this point. Um, when they're

wrestling, they're basically both unknowns. And,

uh, it's an interesting match to, to kind of

seek out if you have a chance to, I want to say

it's on the WWE network somewhere. Um, but I

would suggest finding that it's kind of interesting

to watch DJ. What do you think of Batista being

here at number 57? He's one of the most fun characters

to use in SmackDown. It's sad, though, because

he's retired now. Because when he left and learned

how to act, James Gunn taught him how to act,

and he was in Blade Runner and stuff like that,

and then came back, he was such a better wrestler

for me. Like, the latest thing he did with Triple

H, give me what I want! Give me what I want!

And he just took out Ric Flair and stuff like

that. That was like you could tell he had picked

up some stuff on how to perform because before

when he was there, he was very stiff when he

was talking. But when he was back with like recently

in the last year, he was so good. Oh, now he's

retired because, you know, you can make the same

amount of money working one month a year than

255 days of the year. So, yeah, I like Batista.

I like him more now than I did then. And I look

back at. Like when he had a little thing with

Eddie Guerrero and stuff like that. I should

have appreciated this more. But yeah, I prefer

him now where he is because he's doing good stuff.

I mean, I really like his acting performance.

And in terms of wrestlers that have branched

off into movies, I prefer what he's doing than

what Cena's doing. He ain't being The Rock, but

Cena... He's top three, right? Top three for

wrestlers that are in the movies? I don't know.

No, I'm talking about Batista. Oh, yeah, yeah,

yeah. I'd probably say so. At least top five.

He's better than Hogan. He might be in the top

three. Matt, what do you think about Batista?

I like the evolution angle. That was cool. It

was like the new Four Horsemen and stuff like

that, which was really neat. Big, muscly guy.

When he did his moves, when he did the Batista

Bomb and other things, it was like, holy shit,

this guy just killed somebody. He looked like

that much of a monster in the ring. But yeah,

he didn't really have the... mike chops at the

time and like to dj's point he actually got some

lessons in order how to speak into a microphone

and actually make it matter or make at least

the crowd uh like care about you but then again

i mean he's probably one of the more muscly guys

i think we've had on the on the countdown so

far too they just got pushed all the way to the

moon basically and i think that The crowd resented

him because wrestling crowds suck in general.

They're so horrible. This is for all you people

out there. You guys suck. He does also make the

sub list of wrestlers who were bodyguards beforehand

or bouncers. He tried out for the WCW power plant

but was told that he would never make it in the

wrestling business. Buddy Lee Parker. That's

when he went to Ohio Valley Wrestling and got

to wrestle with the likes of the prototype John

Cena and Lesnar before anybody knew who any of

these people were. So Batista, number 57. Now

somebody a while back tried to predict the future

and say that certain members would or would not

show up on this list moving forward and they

were wrong because at number 56 we're going to

get somebody that we were told we weren't going

to get to see. And that is the one and only Mr.

Bob Backlund at number 56. So debuted. The crowd

likes this one. He's over. Debuted in 1973. It

says he retired in 2011, but like we said. Anyway,

he was in TNA in 2007. I didn't know that. So

Bob Backlund obviously had the belt forever in

the WWF. He was a champion two times. A tag team

champion once with Pedro Morales. Got a Slammy

Award for being the most eccentric in 1996. What

a title. What a reward. Inducted into the WWE

Hall of Fame in 2013. Wrestling Observer Newsletter.

Best technical wrestler in 1980. Match of the

year 1980 versus Ken Patera in a Texas death

match in New York City, New York. I don't know

how that works. He was most disgusting promotional

tactic in 1982 for being the WWF champion, I

guess. The most disgusting what? Wow. It says

he got the most disgusting promotional tactic

from this newsletter. and it says, for being

WWF champion. Can I qualify that? Wow. He got

PWI match of the year in 1978 versus superstar

Billy Graham. Match of the year 1982 versus Jimmy

Snuka in a steel cage match. Most hated wrestler

of the year 1994. That's when he was doing his

heel turn in WWF. Most inspirational wrestler

of the year 77 in 1981. A lot of other things

to go along with this that I don't need to mention.

Mr. Neal, what do you think of Bob Backlund showing

up here at 56? Oh, my God. If there was ever

a wrestler who completely reinvented himself,

Late in his career, other than Hogan, obviously,

it would have to be Bob Backlund. Bob Backlund,

heel Bob Backlund. You know, I can't really talk

about his early babyface stuff. I mean, I know

that's a big selling point of him because he

was the champion for so long. But a lot of us,

I think most people on the show will remember

him completely snapping on Bret Hart. Winning

the title and then unfortunately losing it like

a day or two later. Diesel with like seven seconds.

Of all people. Could you imagine if he had kept

that title and came out to the ring with no theme

song? Just how obnoxious that would be in the

new generation era when everyone had a theme

song. Here he comes, this old school wrestler,

does the duck walk in the ring. He's like walking

on his knees. I remember he did some goofy walk

like that. I can't remember exactly what he did,

but it was like some walk that was like really

difficult to do unless you were really in shape.

And he was just so, he was so great. I love when

he was on the beach and he had the nose cream

on his face. That vignette, that was great. He

just, for like a solid year, he was the best.

I love that. That feud he had with Hart, except

for the WrestleMania match, which was nothing

to talk about. I just remember, what do you say?

He also tried to run for a Congress seat in Connecticut

in 2000, but did not win. I've heard that he's

not necessarily the nicest guy to talk to in

real life, but I don't know if that's true or

not. Apparently he's disgusting, apparently through

that newsletter. Disgusting tactic. DJ, what

do you think of Bob Backlund showing up here?

Where do I start? Do I start with the Pee Wee

Herman outfit he comes out with or the suspenders

or the chicken wing as a special move? Bob Backlund

is like that guy when you're at a basketball

court and everybody looks like a prototypical

LeBron James and there's this white guy in the

corner with the gray socks and the dress shoes

who's hitting threes from the corner. That's

Bob Backlund. He's Billy Hoyle. He's Billy Hoyle.

He's Billy Hoyle. He's Woody Harrelson and white

men can't show. He shouldn't be good. He shouldn't

be killing people, but he is. I guess he's like

American William Regal. I don't even know what

it is, but something about him where he's just

so uptight and he's got the most nerdiest outfit

on and there's nothing about him that's charismatic.

He doesn't have theme music. But you love him

because he just fits a role of this guy. We need

more of this guy. I always loved Bob Backlund

because it was just like, oh, this is going to

be – whenever he came out, I was like, okay,

this is going to be fun. I'm going to be entertained

for the next 20 minutes or 10 minutes or two

minutes, whatever will happen. Matthew, last

thoughts on Bob Backlund before we move into

our final five for today. I remember him from

the Bob Backlund snaps. He was almost like the

prototypical Ken Shamrock. Before Ken Shamrock

was snapping, Bob Backlund was snapping. I remember

when he did fight. He put the hitman in the cross

-faced chicken wing for like five minutes. I

was like, holy shit, this is like another murder

happening right now. You'll never use that arm

again. Yeah, he's like, you will never use that

arm again. This is horrible. The body's not supposed

to be bent that way for that long. And then I

guess later on down the line when he did the

whole, he was working with Cedric Alexander,

I think, or something, where it was like, make

this guy great again or something. He was doing

like the mentor thing to. The other dude, I don't

know if it was Cedric Alexander, but it was pretty

recent. But yeah, Bob Macklin being crazy was

amazing. And the guy is a really great wrestler

and he held the WWF title for like a really,

really long time. So it's, I'm glad a reasonably,

I want to say unknown, but. an enigmatic wrestler

is kind of right smack in the middle of his countdown

so i'm very happy about that and i'm happy i

wasn't wrong so yes we put the wrestling theme

songs uh before each wrestler comes up on this

list i think for this one i'm just gonna leave

it silent he has no theme music So like I said,

there is five spots left. These are five people

that do make the top 100, but that do not make

the top 50, whichever way you want to look at

it. So let's start here with number 55 here.

Let's see if you guys know any of these names.

The Black Baron. Dr. Knows -It -All. The Texan.

Chainsaw Charlie. Oh, my God. Mr. Terry Funk

coming in here at 55. I couldn't tell you who

he was trained by because it was Dory Funk, so

I thought that might give it away. But obviously

he spent a lot of time in a lot of different

places, including the NWA, All Japan, WWF, WCW,

IWA, ECW, and everywhere in between. Jeez, where

do you start with this guy's accomplishments?

I'm not going to read them all, but WWE Hall

of Fame in 2009, WWF Tag Team Championship once

with Cactus Jack. So many Hall of Fames that

I can't even get into them all. WCW Hardcore

Champion three times, WCW Hall of Fame in 95,

NWA United States Championship once or twice.

We all know who Terry Funk is. DJ, is he deserving

of being right about here at number 55? Should

he be higher or lower? Elliot in Roadhouse, man.

He's just this guy. You don't look like a wrestler.

You look like a guy that's smoking cigarettes

on the side of the street. Oh, wait a minute.

That's barbed wire there. He's going to kill

somebody. Larry Funk is a legend, man. He has

to be on this list. Again. If anybody out there

doesn't know Terry Funk, Google him. You're like,

that guy's a wrestler? Yeah. And he'll whip your

ass. Terry Funk was one of those. That's the

fact that he didn't give a crap, man. I think

he was my Stone Cold before there was a Stone

Cold where he didn't give a crap about anything.

He would do anything. Doesn't he wear the Japanese

headband and all the types of stuff like that?

Yeah. I love Terry Funk. The fact that when people

go, don't smoke, don't drink, don't do drugs.

Terry Funk is doing it. He's still alive. He's

the Keith Richards of wrestling. And the other

thing is, too, someone else that was able to

reinvent himself so many different times. I mean,

if you look at him in like the mid 70s, like

he's an actually, you know, a bulky, you know,

wrestling guy. Like he looks like he's got some

meat to him compared to like you look at him,

you know, probably when we're more familiar with

him. Obviously, he was a lot older, a lot lean,

more lean, I guess, or skinny than he was in

his heyday. So, I mean, that's someone who's

just been able to recreate after recreate. And

obviously. Big instrumental influence in people

like Mick Foley and things of that nature. So

obviously it has an impact on the wrestling business

as well. Matthew, what do you think about Terry

Funk coming in right here? I mean, I liked the

gimmick when he was with Cactus Jack and he was

chainsawed. It was just like a scary leather

face type character with a stocking on his head.

I thought it was amazing. But I think the first

time I really heard about Terry Funk was in watching

Beyond the Mat. and what he kind of did for ECW

and making it a viable promotion by literally

just putting himself out there on the line and

nearly killing himself. That says a lot for what

he did and what he meant to these up and coming

wrestlers. Like, damn, this guy's 55, 60 years

old. He's still wrestling. And how many different,

I mean, you got to look at his retirement. Like,

you know, retired here, retired here, retired

here. He still might not even be retired at this

point. I don't think so. I don't even know. But

I like him because he's eccentric and weird.

Yeah, and he was in Roadhouse. And he's like,

what did he say to Patrick Swayze? You're not

worth a lick of hair on my dick or something

like that? Something really bad like that. Oh,

I hear you cum in a dump truck or something.

It was something weird. I don't know. He said

something creepy, man. If it's not that, then

I'm questioning where you came up with that.

Opinions vary. The TV is Mr. Neal. What do you

think of Terry Funk? Crazy. Something up in one

word. There you go. No fashion sense whatsoever.

Those tights that he wears, the stripes and the

trunks on over. Oh, my God. The guy's got no

knees. He's a broken man, but he just doesn't

know when to quit. Thank God. I don't think I

can add to anything that these guys already said.

I just always think of the most reckless wrestler,

whoever it was, is probably Terry Funk. All right,

there's four more left here. Number 54 once went

by the ring name of Wildo Jinx or Willow or Itchweed

or in his first WWF appearance as a jobber, Keith

Davis, Brother Nero maybe? Oh, yes. How about

Jeff Hardy coming in here at number 54? So we

already talked about Matt. Now we talk about

Jeff. DJ, did we get that in the right order?

And is this a good spot for Jeff Hardy? We were

just talking about Terry Fung in terms of the

most reckless wrestler of all time. Jeff Hardy

has to be in that discussion. I mean, Jeff Hardy,

I will always remember him on the Titantron jumping

off doing the senton through a table. What the

hell? I can't remember which pay -per -view that

was, but I'm like, You just killed yourself on

live television. You can't. The fact that he

is able to stand. I didn't know about the whole

thing he had in TNA with Sting. I just found

it out the other day where it was like he was

really like messed up. And Sting kind of like.

Yeah, yeah. It made me sad because I just remember

the good Jeff Hardy. You know, the good Jeff

Hardy. But this one, Jeff Hardy was at the pinnacle

where he would. not be a world champion but he

would be more over than like world champions

and he's just this guy because he would put his

body all of them put their bodies on the line

but he would do stuff that is the tables and

chairs matches this guy's been in it's just it's

just it's kind of sad because you know again

we're talking about how we're talking about matt

how he's just always going to be linked to jeff

and jeff's always gonna be linked to matt but

the man's It's just one of the most dangerous

wrestlers you've ever seen. If Jeff Hardy was

in a match as a table ladders and chairs, it's

must watch. And the fact that it wouldn't even

be the final match, it's like, how is this in

the middle? How do you follow up a Jeff Hardy

table ladders and chairs match? How? How do you

do it? You don't. I didn't list the championships

because there's too many to list, but he is a

Grand Slam champion, a Triple Crown champion,

and all of those types of things. Matthew Stewart,

did we get? Should Jeff Hardy be higher than

Matt like we have it here? I think from a wrestling

prowess, probably yes. I always thought he was

a better performer. And the fact that he fought

the demons and everything. And, of course, you

bring up that sting match where it was like,

what the hell, man? It's like you look at the

glaze in his eyes and he's gone and then took

some time off and then came back. And the program

he worked with. CM Punk was interesting because

it was dealing with real issues he was dealing

with. And literally CM Punk was like, no, you're

a drug addict. And he's like, we don't really

have to air this out on TV, but it's fine. But

I mean, yeah, just the enigma, Jeff Hardy. And

yeah, jumping off high things. I mean, Shane

McMahon does that type of stuff, but he doesn't

do it like Jeff Hardy. So I'm happy with his

placement here. It seems right. to me. I agree.

Neil, any last comment on Jeff Hardy? Whenever

I think of Jeff Hardy, I just think of this guy

who's able to use his own body as a projectile

weapon. He's just constantly throwing his own

body at other wrestlers. Jumping off the titantron.

Again, Sid can't even take a fall off the second

rope. Here you got a guy falling 20 feet. That's

so true. That was a good one. Sid sneezes, his

leg snaps in half. Jeff Hardy's jumping off the

top of the freaking Astrodome. Amazing, but yeah,

because of Sid, I have a hard time watching Jeff

Hardy matches. Traumatized. All right, three

left. Let's go to number 53. We're going to start

with you, TV, Mr. Neal, on your thoughts on this

gentleman. He didn't have a lot of different

ring names besides his own ring, besides his

own name, really. But maybe you could say that

he was known as the King of Memphis Wrestling

once upon a time. We're talking about the King.

Jerry the King Lawler coming in here at 53. Obviously,

a lot of people might just know him as an announcer,

but he was a wrestler for a long time before

that, starting in 1970 through 92 in Memphis,

and then in 92 to 2001 with the WWF. Neil, what

do you think of Jerry Lawler, and is he deserving

of this spot in the top 100? Very deserving.

I think he's a little underrated just because

of people today mostly know him as the announcer

on WWE. I don't think a lot of people remember

his Memphis stuff unless they have the network

and can watch some of that. His feud with Andy

Kaufman is legendary. What was it? The dual gender

championship belt that Kaufman had where he'd

only wrestle women. He kind of goaded Lawler

into a match. God, Lawler was super over as a

babyface. don't realize that he was like such,

such a good guy for the longest time. And it

was only maybe after, no, it was like actually

before he came to WWF because there was that

match with Kerry Von Erich at Super Bowl III

when they, no, not Super Clash III, where they

merged the two belts and created the USWA. That's

a really good match. Kerry Von Erich versus Jerry

Lawler. Lots of good stuff from his pre -WWF

days. He was really famous for never losing a

hair versus hair match except for one of the

greatest screw jobs of all time. God, I can't

remember. I think it was Austin Aries. I think

it was him. You got to look that up. There's

a whole storyline on YouTube where it's just

that, where it's the time that... Jerry Lawler

got screwed in a hair match and it's like an

hour long. It's really fascinating to watch.

I love Jerry Lawler. Really funny on the mic.

Really good ribber. Not as funny as Heenan, but

he, you know, it's kind of different. They're

just kind of different beasts, I guess. But,

you know, I can go all day on Lawler, so maybe

you guys can add to what I'm saying. He was voted

Best Color Commentator in 95 and 96. Feud of

the Year in 1987 versus Austin Idol and Tommy

Rich. Feud of the Year 1992 with Jeff Jarrett

against the Moondogs. It was Austin Idol I was

thinking of, yeah. Okay. Feud of the Year 1993

versus Bret Hart. Worst Feud of the Year the

next year, 94, versus Doink the Clown. Then they

gave him the worst television announcer in 2002.

I don't know about that. Who did that? This is

the Wrestling Observer newsletter. And also the

worst, worst, I can't say that, worst worked

match of the year, 1994, was Sleazy, Queasy,

and Cheesy versus Clowns R Us at Survivor Series.

I don't remember that. WWE Hall of Fame in 2007,

as well as a lot of other Hall of Fames. DJ,

what do you think of Jerry Lawler being here?

The Andy Kaufman stuff, as Neil had brought up,

I had to like, I was so interested because I

watched Man on the Moon first and then I went

back and watched the actual, you know, though

they kind of incorporated some stuff from it.

And I was like, wow, I really thought that they

hated each other. And the fact that he's such

a good performer that you bought it. And then

I never watched, that's probably the most I've

ever seen Jerry the King Lawler in a physical

situation other than, you know, because I grew

up with him as an announcer. When I saw him,

I knew he had to have been a wrestler at some

point, but I never watched him wrestle because

he always came out in tights for some reason.

But when I, like, am joking around about wrestling

or I'm thinking about wrestling in my youth,

him and JR are the voices I hear in my head at

all times. Puppies! I hear that every, you know,

Jerry King Lawler. If you think about wrestling,

he's swirling around in there because of all

the matches. And he still has, I mean, he came.

The Fiend kind of took him out. But he came recently

back to WWE before Bray Wyatt decided to get

rid of him. And he's still great on the mic.

He's still awesome. So yeah, Jerry the King Lawler,

you're never going to get me complaining about

Jerry the King Lawler. Matthew, last comments

on Jerry the King? I guess on the serious note,

like what he did for Territorial Wrestling and

then he bought up and he was like the last kind

of like survivor. Memphis Wrestling is, you know,

a testament to what he did to keep that territory

alive. And then the Andy Kaufman thing, like

Neil said, is a legend in and of itself where

you kind of know what happened, but who knows

what the whole true story is. But it's still

something that the ultimate crossover story.

This was like the crossover story before any

other people were crossing over in the wrestling.

And then just, yeah, I mean, the ultimate. heel

commentator. I mean, the guy would go up to just

talk the most vile shit to like Brett, to Hitman

Hart's family. And if you bought it, it was like,

Oh, this guy's awful, but it's hilarious at the

same time. I mean, ripping on these like old

folks and, and, and, and the, and up in the mezzanine

and stuff. And then of course, you know, the

kiss, kiss my foot match was just one of the,

I don't know, one of the most over the top, but

also one of the more funny things. And of course,

you know, Brett being a, professional sold it

so well and then of course from that we got isaac

yankum and he was the creation of jerry the king

law probably in some place too so uh who's next

you know things like that my my personal dentist

isaac yankum and puppies and him and jr and the

mic together and then of course when he had that

heart attack it was like oh my god jerry the

king law was gonna die of course he didn't die

he's fine It always seemed like he was in pretty

good shape, too, compared to some of the other

announcers and people like that. He was aging

well, I thought. Yeah, he's the king. I heard

recently that whenever he would riff on Bret

the Hitman Hart, they'd have to keep the camera

off of Bret because Bret couldn't help but laugh.

I've heard that, too. What are you thinking?

I don't care. The Rock would cut a promo where

Stone Cold would cut a promo and his little it

would make the promo even better. Oh my god!

Every time The Rock would say something outrageous.

When Regal kissed McMahon's ass, that was one

of the best ones. All right, only room for two

people, guys, left on today's episode outside

of the top 50. So number 52, this man made his

debut in 1968. I don't know if you know him by

James Wiley Smith, but that's his real name.

Nobody knows him by that because every other

name was something to do with Snooka or Superfly.

Jimmy, Superfly, Snooka. Super, Super, Superfly.

at number 52. Let's ignore the whole fact that

he was arrested for involuntary manslaughter

and third -degree murder for all that stuff.

Those charges were dismissed. I don't know. That

was weird, though. That supposedly happened in

1983, and he was arrested in 2015. I don't know

if that was a forensic thing or what, but unfortunately

no longer with us. Died in 2017 at the age of

73. Obviously one of the original kind of, I

guess, high flyers, so to speak. Professional

Wrestling Hall of Fame in 2012. WWE Hall of Fame

in 96. Best Flying Wrestler, according to The

Observer, in 1981. Best Wrestling Maneuver for

the Superfly Splash. um also got most unimproved

once upon a time i don't know and got a worst

on and got a worst um interviewer um but uh according

to pro wrestling and illustrated he was most

popular wrestler of the year in 1983 dj what

do you think of jimmy superfly snooker coming

in here oh brother uh no uh i love snooker i

love see i'm a piper can we remind everybody

that his name is james wiley smith I got bodies

on my resume, brother. No, but I was a big Piper

fan. So the whole coconut Piper, look, that was

one time I saw something. I was like, this is

offensive. Man, this is entertaining. I shouldn't

laugh at this. It's pretty bad. But no, Sook

is a legend. I mean, he was a crazy person. In,

out, around, on top of, under the ring. He was

a crazy person. But he was entertaining. He was

just a wild man. You hear the word snooker, you

know, oh, you're talking about wrestling. Even,

like, anybody who doesn't know anything about

wrestling will hear snooker. They might even,

like, glean, like, wait a minute. That's not

if you're our ages. We're probably like, yeah,

I've heard that before. That's that wrestler

guy, that crazy person guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Snooker's a legend. So, yeah, I'm with him. The

inaugural ECW World Heavyweight Champion. They

held twice. So, we can go for that. Matthew,

what do you think of Superfly being here? I liked

him. I mean, I guess it doesn't make me feel

the overt racism that Roddy Piper did because

he wasn't Samoan at all or anything like that.

It's from Fiji. It's from Fiji? Yeah, it's from

Fiji. Let's see. Either way, the coconut thing

is what made him probably even more famous and

made him even more likable. I like him. I mean,

he would jump off high things and fall onto other

men in the ring and do that. What a description.

I mean, he was also one of the early ones that

wrestled barefoot, too. A lot of people wouldn't

really do that. That was kind of a, I don't want

to say folklore, but nobody did that in the ring.

So, I mean, he had the look and style, but he

also had that same, he was in the same era, I

felt, with Coco Beware and all these other really...

gaudy, interesting wrestlers that were kind of

like, hey, here's a weird looking wrestler. You

have this guy from PG and then you have a guy

with a parrot type thing. I don't know. I don't

know why in my mind I always lumped Coco Beware

and Jimmy Snuka in my head. I don't know why

I lumped them together. I'm sure they never fought

together or did anything together, but for some

reason they're almost the same person to me.

The legacy kind of continues with him, too. He

had four children, one of which was named James

Wiley Smith Thomas Rear Snuka, but WWE fans might

know him as Deuce. And then we also have Serona

Moana Marie Rear Snuka Polamalu, but most people

know her as Tamina. TV's Mr. Neal, what do you

think of Jimmy Superfly showing up right on the

verge of the halfway point? Now, Snuka's the

guy who should have been called the Nature Boy.

Look at that. No, this is the original Jungle

Boy. I'm trying to remember exactly what he did.

I know he's basically known for, again, being

the projectile that he just flings his own body

at other people. Mostly known for jumping off

the top rope, jumping off the top of the cage.

landing on people in the ring and i don't remember

what else he did uh as he would say probably

best known for doing things like you know the

greco -roman kick to the mush or something like

that not not a very technical wrestler uh of

course at a time when wwf did not have a lot

of technical wrestling to begin with so it's

like uh what was in his repertoire i don't know

he's just a human uh a human projectile and that's

really all i can kind of think of him as Fair

enough. I think that's why he's not higher on

the list and why he falls right here. One more

spot. We're at number 51. Everything else is

in the top 50 here. This guy was trained by the

likes of Barry Windham, Bob Barup, and Hiro Matsuda.

Debuted in 1985. And you're going to either know

of him as the narcissist or the total package.

We're talking about Lex Luger coming in over

Lawrence Wendell Full. Lex Luger. 51. Obviously

spent some time in NWA in the 80s. Jim Crockett

promotions WCW in the 80s, early 90s. Went to

WWF, came back to WCW, went to TNA. And then

just, we don't want to talk about what happened

to him after that. Because he is not a, he's

a sight for sore eyes, that's for sure. I mean,

it is not good to see what he looks like today.

He's a little better than he looked like a few

years back. But it is scary to see pictures of

him a few years ago. As far as some of the championships

he held, we have in WCW World Heavyweight Champion

twice, World Television Champion twice, United

States Heavyweight Champion five times, Tag Team

Champion three times with Barry Windham, Sting,

and the Giants, a WCW Triple Crown Champion.

As far as WWF, we have the Royal Rumble winner.

well tied with red heart that time. Um, he got

a slammy award for most patriotic in 1994. Um,

but overall had some good feuds of the year with

the four horsemen, the superpowers and the road

warriors, a few to the year with Rick flair,

both in 1988 and 1990 match of the year, 1991

with sting versus the Steiner brothers at super

brawl, uh, most popular rest of the year, 1993.

Wrestler of the Year 1997. So a lot of accolades

there. Let's start with TV's Mr. Neal. I know

a lot of people hate on Lex Luger because he

might not have been the best in -ring worker

or might not have been the best on the mic, but

he was around a long time and had a lot of high

-profile matches. Do you think he's worthy of

being in the top 100? Sure. He's one of those

rare guys whose better time was spent in WCW

versus WWF. Because his days in WWF, I didn't

really get the... the American hero gimmick.

It was just, it felt like they were just trying

to reinvent Hulk Hogan and it didn't really go

anywhere. He didn't want to ride that bus. He

didn't want to ride that bus. The bus was ridiculous.

And the Royal Rumble thing where they both went

over the top rope at the same time was kind of

an experiment to see. which one of them was actually

over. And it was just like, Oh shit, it's actually

Brett. And yeah, like after that, after that

run with Yokozuna, it was just like, okay, he's

just kind of here now. And teamed with Davey

boy for a little bit and famously, or perhaps

infamously jumped ship to WCW for the first nitro,

which was a big grab for them because he was

actually. Pretty decent in WCW. His war with

the NWO, you know, when he won the title from

Hogan on the 100th episode of Nitro, only to

give it back a couple of days later. That was

a huge moment. And unfortunately, after that,

I can't think of too many high points because

he joined the NWO during the infamous... Wolfpack!

Finger -poked doom. The finger -poked doom night

that he became a heel, and it was just kind of

like, eh, after that. I just remember early on

when I was a child, him coming to the ring as

the narcissist with the mirror in the middle

of the ring, and then the bionic elbow. The bionic

elbow, yeah. He didn't just totally, like, fawning

over him at the rumble. That was great. He did

have a body. Matthew Stewart, is he deserving

of being right here about 51? Oh, man. I mean...

I can't speak for his wrestling skills. I mean,

he was just kind of like the big muscle guy again.

He was like the guy that Vince McMahon creams

over. This is what he thinks about at night is

Lex Luger. He's in the back. He's in gorilla

position, literally gorilla position. Like this

guy. Oh, my God. This is the best body I've ever

seen. Get that mirror, Linda. Yeah. Son of a

bitch. So, I don't know. I mean. he is fine.

He's just, he's, he's another body. He had some

good spots. I mean, the Yokozuna spot that we

talked about earlier was what kind of like turned

him into a baby face that everybody liked. And

then to, to your guy's point with the Wolfpack

and I, I like Wolfpack NWO. I like red and black,

I think better than black and white. It was like

the more like, no. gritty. It had a better theme

song, I think, in a lot of ways, too. I like

the Wolfpack theme song. The theme song, that's

the better one to me. You might end up in a body

bag. That's real right there. He joins Wolfpack

near the end of the good part of the Monday Night

Wars, too. I don't know, at 50? It's a tough

one. Memorability, yeah, he won some titles.

He did his thing. But greatest wrestlers of all

time at number 50? I don't know. 51, to be fair.

51, okay. DJ, what do you think? Should he be

in the top 100 or not? He could be in the top

100. He might be a little high here. I remember

everybody talks about the elbow. I really like

that move, the rack. I like what he put him on.

That move was awesome, man. That was in WCW when

he was doing that. Anybody else doing that? He

put some big guys up there too. Did they even

tap out or did it just pass out? I don't know.

He made them tap out by making his hands hit

his shoulders. I think they all needed troops

to the chiropractor afterwards. That's very true.

And I'll put him on the list for the simple fact

that he graduated from the U. So I'm from Miami,

Florida. So, I mean, the man went to the University

of Miami. So, yeah, Lex Luger, you get a pass,

buddy. You were the rock. All right. So that

is your 75 through 51. Just real quickly. Antonio

Inoki, Barry Windham, Jushin Liger, Yokozuna,

Brian Film, and Charlotte Flair, China. Miz,

Rob Van Dam, Christian, Rick Steiner, Davey Boy

Smith, El Santo, superstar Billy Graham, Bam

Bam Bigelow, Matt Hardy, Nature Boy Buddy Rogers,

Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Batista Bob Backlund, Terry

Funk, Jeff Hardy, Jerry Lawler, Jimmy Snuka,

and Lex Luger. Matthew Stewart, overall thoughts

of today's entrance, and this is on the next

25 that we talked about here. What do you think?

This was a pretty fun little quarter of the list.

You had a little, you know, A little bit like

golden age wrestlers from the 30s and 40s and

50s. You had some newer wrestlers as well, too.

You had some surprises. You had the, you know,

the tag team connection kind of thing going on.

So I see where this list is going. So we're,

you know, we got another 50 to go. But so far,

I was a big fan of the people that we put on

for the most part here. TV is Mr. Neil. Anybody

stand out on that list that doesn't belong, or

are you pretty happy with the names that were

revealed today? I'm pretty happy with the names

that are revealed today. I'm looking forward

to who's going to be coming up in the, in the

next two weeks. I think we got some more female

wrestlers coming up for sure. I think Judy Bagwell,

no, Becky has Becky Lynch. She's got to be on

there. So yeah, I think. If Medusa's not on there,

that'd be a shame, but I think she would have

been on here by now. EJ, what do you think of

the 25 we revealed today? If you package them

with the 25 we revealed last week, where are

we sitting here going into the top 50? I think

this part of the list is where it's interesting

because I think that when it gets to the top

10, it's going to be, I don't want to say predictable,

but you know who's up there. But we have no idea.

Right. It's just the order here. You can have

surprises like Bob Backlund or China, which was

surprising to be in this kind of level right

here. So, yeah, I think this is where it's going

to get. You're still in the more interesting

part of the list. When you get to the top 10

is where you're going to be like, OK, who? Where

is that blonde guy going to be? And where is

that other guy with the sunglasses going to be?

And where is that Simone guy going to be? And

where is that redneck guy going to be? But here

is where you're going to be trying to figure

out who's even going to make it. Because when

you said Charlotte Flair, I was kind of like,

okay, that's low. That might be a lot of recency

bias because Becky has to be coming up soon.

I figured she would be very close to her because

Charlotte has... as much, if not more accolades

as Becky. So though Becky pretty much got attention

back to the WWE recently. So yeah, I think the

next part of this is going to be really cool.

This is the part that people get nervous, too,

of if people will show up or not. But I can tell

you that I think that we've also reached the

point where I'm the only one of the group that

knows the list. So, I mean, nobody else has seen

it. Nobody else can speak to what's coming up.

I don't know if we can make any more arguments

the rest of the way of anybody not being deserving

of being top 100. I think every name that we

throw out there, no one's going to have a problem

with that they're on the list. It's just going

to be debated as far as where they belong on

the list. So that's going to be the interesting

thing to see. We're not going to give out everybody's

information again. Again, today we did it last

episode. We will do it on the final episode as

well as far as how people can reach all of us

and stay in contact with us. For now, we just

want you going to the website, which is geekcastradio

.com and finding the episode post and giving

us your comments. We will be giving people responding

to your comments and your feedback that you leave

on the website here on the air in the next episode.

So we'll kind of give you everybody an update

of what people are saying on the site and kind

of go from there. So that is. 100 now through

51. Next time we were going to do 50 through

26. So I'm looking forward to it. Stay tuned

next time for another chance to listen to more

wrestling talk as we count down another 25 wrestlers.

We'll see you then. You know what? You just made

the list.