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Top 100 Countdown – TRANSFORMERS CHARACTERS – Part 4 – #50-26

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up Welcome to a very special episode of the All
Things Transformers brand here at the Geekcast
Radio Network. Whether it's TFG1, Unleashing
the Beast, or Getting Tapped, we are now in the
prime time with the Top 100 Transformers Characters
Countdown. I am one of your Cybertronian hosts,
TFG1 Mike. Joining me, as always, is that rubber
ducky lovin' Steve Megatron. Yes. From the Planet
of Junk, we have Optimus Solo. I'm here. And
sadly, he doesn't talk TV. And our very special
guest is someone who's been wrecking and ruling
Cybertron and Earth for many years now. It is
Amy, a .k .a. Lady Wreck. Hello. I have nothing
snarky to say right now. Steve is supposed to
throw in the excellent yes, but... Mike ruined
it. Well, I did say wreck and roll just after
he led up to a little bit of it. So wreck and
roll! Woo! Excellent. Yes. And so we're going
to give Amy a little bit of a chance to react
to the countdown so far. Because after part three
recorded, I sent her the entire list to this
point. And she has thoughts. So take it away,
Amy. I have thoughts. Lots of little thoughts.
Well, first of all, because I'm going to get
this out of the way because I know my friend
Nicole is probably going to listen to this and
go, what? And I'm going to have to say what's
probably on her mind is how in the heck did Skylynx
beat out Nautica? Like, seriously? It was only
by six points, so someone ranked somebody about
94th and that would have been the difference.
No! Not very far off. Yeah, but still, she's
like, what? How did Skylakes even get on this
list? That's what we were kind of thinking. He's
not a fan of Skylakes, so I had to set that.
Fair enough. I'm wondering what Frenzy did to
put him so far down on the list, but Rumble is
not there with him. He probably screamed in somebody's
vocal process. Yeah, I would have thought that
a lot of people would have ranked them next to
each other. Yeah, or at least within a couple
of each other, but when you have Trouble and
his buddy... Or whatever. And his twin brother,
you know, they usually run together. PB and J,
Frenzy and Rumble. Right. Okay. I hope McAdam
is not ignored somewhere on this list. Oh, man.
I don't think anybody remembered that character,
sadly. Somebody hasn't been watching their Cyberverse.
He was amazing in that. He was great in that.
Yeah. Especially since, like, hey, you put the
Quintessons on there, but not Mikado? What? At
least he transformed. True, true. But we never
got to see what he transformed into, so. Darn
it. That also brings up my next point, is why
are the Quintessons on here, or is it Quintessons?
I think, I think there was some characters that
got, you know, we did mention, you know, no humans,
so to speak for the list, but I think some people
tried to sneak some other stuff in there because
we've got the quintessence and, uh, there may
be, I don't know if there's another one in there
that might not count, but we'll have to wait
and see. Yeah. Somehow he got on that list and
I was like, well, it's more of a race than just
a specific person. Right. And I mean, in that
case, like where's the Kremzik or the scraplets?
Yeah. Very true. Because I thought about putting
those guys on there, but I didn't. Yeah, they
didn't put the hate plague. They didn't put,
you know, the Sharktacons. I voted. I think I
voted for the Sharktacons. Somewhere. 99. I don't
know. Yeah. Okay. Well, you got the Beast Wars
characters, but where's the rescue bots? That's
true. Rescue bots are so far being shut out.
Also, just to give a couple notes before we go
too much further, I have the running total so
far as to where we're at through that first 50
with a few of the categories that we've been
looking at throughout this thing. So, so far
for Beast Wars, Steve, we've revealed six Beast
Wars characters on the bottom half. Females,
we've had five. So one more Beast Wars character
than female characters. As far as the good versus
bad battle, so far the good guys are leading
29 to 21. So just there. Autobot cars, we've
only seen three, which is the exact same number
of combiners. The actual combined form and the
Dinobots are all threes. So they're so far leading
the charge ahead of the cassettes, which we've
seen two of. the Insecticons we've seen two,
the Headmasters we've seen two, we've seen two
base kind of characters, and only one Pretender
and only one Seeker in the bottom 50. Mike, any
thoughts about any of that stuff? It's going
to be an interesting list. It may have taken
us 12 years to get to this countdown, but I think
we're going to make people a lot happier in these
final parts of the revealing, and I think...
That we won't be as clickbaity as other websites
are with their stuff. The other category I forgot
was mini vehicles. We've seen five in the bottom
50. Lady Rec, any other surprises or reactions
to any of that stuff that we just went over?
I'm sure that if I sat here and looked at it
long enough, I'd be like... Hey! But those are
my big ones, actually. All right, Steve, any
reactions to that? What are you feeling with
six Beast Wars characters revealed so far? Every
time we get to a Beast Wars character, I'm afraid
to reveal it because I don't know how Steve's
going to react. I can already tell you his reactions
from knowing the guy so long as we've known him.
It's like... What the frag? There isn't a day
that goes by that I don't watch an episode. Yes,
we know. I feel like some of the times he's going
to be happy that they made the countdown and
other times he's just going to be mad that they're
not higher. So I never know which way we're going
to go. It's both. But I mean, we can only...
Yeah, we can only do so much to please Megatron.
Yes. Nobody wants to please Megatron. Everybody
wants to defy him. No one defies Megatron and
lives. Thank you for that, Megatron. And today
we give you the fourth installment of the Top
100 Transformers Characters Countdown. Remember,
no human germs. Well, today we will be revealing
who came in at the numbers 50 through 26 rankings.
Wow. Cool. It is very cool. So, Optimus Solo,
what do we have to look forward to today? Well,
today we are looking strictly at characters that
got over 1 ,000 points, which would be the equivalent
of being ranked number one on one -third of the
submitted list. Impressive. So at this point,
these characters really need to have some universal
appeal. Easier said than done. It definitely
is. But before we get to today's reveals, quick
question for you, Mike. Last question about looking
back at what's been revealed so far. Who are
you most surprised that did not make the top
50 that's already been revealed? My buddy, my
boy, my radio DJ, it has to be Blaster. Because
Blaster, say what you will about him, say what
you will about wherever he's appeared. What he
was able to do and what little episodes he was
in in the original G1 cartoon plus the movie.
Just, he deserves to be a little higher than
what he actually is. You do know that was crazy.
Yeah? Rattrap, you agree with Mike? You think
he shouldn't have been revealed yet either? I
don't think so. And I really don't think so.
Well, I'm sure you guys are not alone with disagreeing
with some that have already been revealed, but
instead of dwelling on who didn't make the top
50 today... We get to reveal who did make the
top 50. Well, since you're the one who knows
the way, go ahead. Lead on. You are correct.
I am the only one who knows who is about to be
revealed. So, give us a scoop. Okay, okay. Let's
get into it. An excellent idea. Wow, Spinator,
same time for number 50. All right, starting
out today with our number 50, as you just heard.
We're starting off with an Autobot car, our fourth
of the countdown. We already talked about Sunstreaker
on the other side of the 50 mark, and now we
get his friend Sideswipe. So Sideswipe is our
number 50 pick. When we're done with them, they're
going to wish they'd never been assembled. Ranged
anywhere from being ranked fifth overall to being
ranked... 94th overall. So ran the gamut. I think
the most frequent spot that he was was either
in the 70s or the 50s. Mike, what do you think
about Sideswipe being here at number 50? Sideswipe
is another one of those characters voiced, at
least in the original G1 cartoon, voiced by Michael
Bell that I felt like he needed more in G1. I
think most people remember him for giving his
rocket pack to Optimus Prime. Which is kind of
sad, that and Judo with him and Sunstreaker.
But Sideswipe has gone on to do so many other
things. His IDW run is such a sad, sad story.
I always preferred Sideswipe over Sunstreaker.
I think we talked about that a little bit in
the last episode. So I'm happy with him outscoring
Sunstreaker slightly. I was just a little bit
bigger of a fan of his toy as well as his cartoon
form. Steve, what do you think about Sideswipe
making the top 50? Oh, I'm pretty happy about
it considering he was in my top 50. He was my
favorite out of the two twins there of Sunstreaker
and Sideswipe, but I also liked him from the
Generation 2 comic and just in the original Transformers.
Not to mention, I think he was the only Autobot
that I owned that was an alternator. Okay. Alternators,
man, that's a whole can of worms right there.
Yeah, it is. Talking about needing a whole afternoon
and it's like you need the biggest set of directions
to get that right. If people can do the alternators
without looking at directions, hats off to you.
I feel like they're the most complicated transformers
to ever existed. That's why I only had one. Yeah,
I stopped after I got the fourth one. I'm like,
I can't keep doing this. But they look cool.
I never had any of them. They look cool. Lady
Rock, what do you think about Sideswipe? I think
it's a great, great place to put them. Yeah.
It seems, seems earned. I don't remember where
I put him in my list. I think a little further
down. Actually, I think he ended up, I'm looking
at my list real quick, real quick. Oh, I put
him at number 58 where Sunstreaker is. Oh, nice.
That's pretty close. That's crazy. I had him
at 57. I had him at 57 and I had, and, and sideswipe
it. I had sideswipe at 57 and Sunstreaker at
58. I had Sideswipe a little bit lower. I had
them at 66. But the majority of people, like
I said, we have a 47, 53, 54, 54, 56, 56, 57,
58. So a lot of people had them around this spot.
So I don't think there are going to be too many
people that are upset at Sideswipe coming in
at number 50. We'll be interested to see how
many more Autobot cars we have coming in this
section of the countdown today. But let's see
where we go with our next selection. Let's hear
Mighty Galvatron from number 49. All right, time
for our final tie of the countdown. We had a
few in those first couple episodes. This is the
last of them, so we'll go with the person that
lost out in the tiebreaker. They both had 1 ,065
points. They were both on 17 lists, which is
the... There's only one person on less list today.
16 would be the lowest. So they're both on 17
lists, which gives them an average of 37 .4.
But one of them was as highly ranked as four,
and the other was as highly ranked as two. So
that's what's going to settle the tie. So we're
going to go with a character known by the name
of, and I'm hoping you guys can help me on this
one because I am not super versed on this one.
We're talking about a character named Overlord.
I'm really sorry I had to do that, your mistress
-ness. I don't need your permission to go anywhere.
I'm over. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no, no, no, no,
no. He was in Combiner Wars. Yeah, he was in
Combiner Wars, but this is all Amy because this
is all... Oh, God. He comes in at 49? Oh, my...
Take it away, Amy. Yay! So, the baddie gets in
the first top 50. That's pretty awesome. I love
that. Are you a fan? I am a fan of Overlord,
especially after, you know, Wreckers. That's
all I know about him. I didn't see him in anything
else, so I have no context for anything beyond
Wreckers. He was the brilliantly awesome bad
guy with the really cool lips. He also appeared
in the Super God Master Force cartoon, apparently.
Nice. And I'm trying to see where else he was
at. Victory cartoon, the Zone cartoon, so a lot
of the Japanese stuff that he appeared in, which
is why I'm not super versed in them, because
I've yet to go through those, but it's on my
to -do list. And then obviously a lot of the
IDW stuff. Mike, other comments on Overlord?
I just remember him being this badass, sadistic...
Like, in the IDW continuity, the 2005 continuity,
he put almost every other Decepticon or any other
villain outside of Unicron to shame. Has he been,
as far as his forms go, because I know at one
point, I guess this would be like the G1. Was
he kind of like a base in G1? Or was he more
of a vehicle? See, the thing with the IDW continuity
is that he always changed, I think. Didn't he,
Amy? He was a phase sixer. That's right. He was
a phase sixer. Six shot. Six shot. What was it?
He's a power master. Okay. Steve, any thoughts
on Overlord? While I like him, I didn't personally
list him, but that's because... I just don't
have the appreciation, I guess, that everyone
else does. I'll admit, I was ignorant of his
existence, so he did not make my list because
I didn't know he was a thing. But a lot of people
ranked him 17. I love on the TF wiki in his top
image in the article for the Master Force version,
check out those killer abs. Nice. All right,
so Overlord takes the 49th spot. We'll see what
we have next. Oh, no. Rhinox, maximize! It's
time for number 48. Alright, time for Steve's
first reaction of the day. Winning the tiebreaker
against Overlord, also on 17 lists, etc. We're
going into the world of the Beast Wars for a
maximal here at number 48. He was as highly ranked
as number 2 on Benson Yee's list, as lowly ranked
as 95th. Three people had him ranked 15th. So
that was the most common ranking spot. One person
had him 16th. Steve, we're talking about Rhinox.
What do you think about Rhinox being at 48? I
come in peace. You're about to leave in pieces.
No need for violence, Rhinox. I merely wish to
talk. free planet. I'm busy. Stubborn maximal
fool! He'll soon regret this impertinence. I'm
glad he hit the top 50, at least, because he
is pretty well renowned in various continuities.
He's also pretty much the brain in the brawn
of the Beast Wars. Had a lot of great lines,
a lot of great weapons his chain guns of doom
uh but he also got to play the part of protocon
a little bit early which is foreshadowing him
in beast machines but nonetheless he's a very
cool uh character uh he has his dark side but
he also has uh the side that just loves to smell
the roses and i know mike's favorite part is
when he uh what's wrong Wild bean vines. Hard
to digest. Do not turn your back on me, maximal
scum. Huh? Oh, no. Not that. The wrecking bean
launcher from the virus. You always go down the
low road. That's all that needs to be said. You
always go down the low road because that is just
a hilarious episode. But they've used him in
Legends. They've used him in various IDW stuff.
They've used him in timelines. He's doing really
good in the new comic, in the new Beast Wars
comic with Eric Burnham and Josh Burcham. And
he's also been in the Robots in Disguise series.
A lot of traffic. I feel like his character is
a lot similar to a bulkhead in Animated or Prime,
especially in Prime. He kind of takes over that
brawn role. I'm with you, Steve. I'm happy that
he's in the top 50. I actually would have had
him in the next episode. I had him ranked 23rd,
so I had him just creeping into that next episode.
And I was not alone. Like I said, there was 1,
2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 people that would have had him
in the final episode, whereas about 1, 2, 3,
4, 5 would have had him today. So I feel happy
that he's in the top 50. I'm interested to see
how you guys react to the order that the Beast
Wars characters fall, because obviously Rhinox
is one of the main Maximals and probably a favorite
of a lot of people, but we'll see how he kind
of lines up with the rest of them. Mike, what
do you think? I think he's, yes, he kind of serves
the purpose of, as you said, the bulkhead type,
but with one exception. Yeah. He, he has a lot,
he's a lot wiser than bulkhead is. And, but bulkhead
is wise enough to know he's not that wise. You
know what? I just thought that it's going to
be, I'm going to have to be very careful for
the rest of the countdown, not to say anything
about kingdom. Oh yeah. No, she can't say anything.
Cannot say anything. So I was just about to,
and I'm like, Oh, can't do it. Even though this
will come out afterwards. Yeah, wait. This is
like... Maybe I can. The end of August? You can,
but it was the end of the panel. I'm just going
to say you can. I'm just the only one that hasn't
seen it. No problem. I won't spoil anything.
Maybe next episode, right? There we go. What
do you think of Rhinox being here, lady? I'm
completely cool with that. I didn't give enough
love to the Beast Wars characters. Steve's going
to be after you. But he probably didn't give
as much love to the record. Nope. I figured that
he didn't. So mine was, of course, record -centric
in a big way. So I expected it. But that's what
it was nice about. That's what was nice about
having as many people participate as we did is
because a lot of different parts of the fandom
and different parts of the franchise got to have
their supporters and got to have representation.
If we would have only had, say, 10 people participate,
then everything gets skewed a lot more. When
we're up to 33 lists, it helps balance that out
so everybody can have their favorites and it
kind of all works out well. Oh, yeah. I went
back and forth. quite a bit going okay should
i really just go full -on wrecker on this or
we did have some people that uh we did have some
people that had some interesting lists when you
look over them but we'll get to that later but
mike uh one thing that we've learned after doing
however many top 100 lists we've done now i keep
forgetting the number but this is i just think
the seventh one okay what we usually find is
in the previous two episodes the bottom 50 that's
where somebody can really just have a favorite
character or there's a few like just really pulling
for somebody that but they can sneak them into
the countdown. Once you get to the top 50, it's
pretty hard to sneak someone in. You have to
have that universal peer appeal where you're
showing up on, you know, every list, almost all
the lists or half the lists are getting ranked.
You know, a lot of people ranking you high. So
it's hard to hard for anybody to get to this
point without some appeal. Right, and specifically
to Transformers, because even though we weren't
really going by generation, because as we've
said in the other episodes, we would have Soundwave
from this generation, Soundwave from that generation,
blah, blah, blah, blah. There are specific versions
because they are so very different in their characterization
that I tried my best to get certain ones in,
and I know how the point system works. So you're
trying to play the system, I see. No, no, no.
Well, I don't know. I mean, there was 32 other
people that submitted lists. So I don't know.
But in making my list, and I'll say this now,
I don't care. It doesn't matter to me. I have
IDW Rodimus at number one, and I have IDW Megatron
at number three. So because I don't know how
many other people are going to vote for those
versions of those characters. I just like what
they did with those two in IDW. All right, we'll
have to see what happens with those, but we've
had one up Steve's alley. Let's see what happens
today. Are we going to have more Beast Wars characters
or more Wreckers? We'll see what comes next.
Let's hear it for number 47. All right, number
47. Steve, it was your turn last turn. Now it's
Amy's turn. We are going to a character here
at 47. A wrecker goes by the name of Whirl. Whirl,
move! I'm fine! Oh, no. Whirl was on 18 lists,
so one more list than Rhinox and Overlord. Average
ranking of 40 .2, but he comes in here at 47.
Let me look at the way that people ranked him,
though. Obviously, Lady Wreck and Sam both had
Whirl up at the number three spot, but we had
one, two, three, four, five people that had him
in the top 12. And then another three people
that would have had him in next episode. And
then about three or four people that would have
had him today. And then a few people had him
in the 60s, 70s, and 90s. So we will start with
Lady Rek. What do you think of your number three
pick falling here at 47? Your alter ego. It's
a little low, but at the same time, I'm super
psyched. I like it. Yes, I really like it. So
why whirl out of the world of the Wreckers? What
do you think makes him deserving? Deserving,
deserving. Well, he hasn't just been in Wreckers.
He's also been on, let's see, he was in Cyberverse,
and he was also in... The iteration after Rescue
Bots, the Rescue Bots Academy, apparently, I
think. I haven't seen a lot of it. So, yeah,
he's kind of been out there a bit in the last
five years. So I'd say, yeah, he's kind of gotten
into everybody's brain pan, and it's great to
see him on the top 50. Yeah. I feel like he's
one of those characters that was kind of an unsung
character or almost a forgotten character in
G1 that has since become so much more and so
much more appreciated, so much more loved out
there. There's been a few of those that have
kind of grown as the time has passed. And he
falls in that big group. And the difference is
where he falls and where he is really shining.
And again, By the end of this, I will find a
way to get you to read the 2005 IDW continuity.
Because the 2005 IDW continuity does an excellent
job with Whirl. And the fact that Whirl, the
reason why I said Whirl is Amy's alter ego is
because she loves the character and Nicole loves
Cyclonus. Well, in IDW 2005, Whirl and Cyclonus
hate each other. Which, that's not anything true
to what Amy and Nicole are best friends in real
life kind of thing. But it's like, huh, great.
They hate each other, but they learn to love
each other. Yeah. They grow to like each other
to a point where, like, Cyclonus is having a
bad time. And Whirl is giving him, like, you
know. He's giving him all the shit. Not just
giving him the shit, he's actually giving him
support. I'm like, oh my gosh. TFWiki cracks
me up because if you're on the disambiguation
pages, it gives you the full list of worlds.
I haven't noticed it even though I've used this
website for every character that we've talked
about so far. At the bottom, there's a thing
that says not to be confused with. It's cracking
me up. It says not to be confused with Twirl.
And then it says not to be confused with Springer,
Sandstorm, Rotorstorm. I'm like, who's confusing
Whirl for Sandstorm? Well, I mean, they're all
helicopters, so that's... Oh, nobody's making
that... That's silly. All right, Steve, last
word on Whirl. I don't know much about him other
than the Rescue Bot Academy, and that's just
briefly introduced to him. So I don't know much
about him. Fair enough. All right. Let's see
which world we go to next. Numbers good. It's
time for 46. Alright, we've had a few characters
that have been mostly known for their time in
Transformers Prime. Thinking back to Arachnid
that we talked about. I'm trying to think if
there was another one that we had that was mostly
Prime. Bulkhead. And we've also had probably
a couple characters so far that have been significantly
both good and bad. And I feel like this character
kind of falls in there as well. We are going
to a character named Knockout. For our 46th,
who obviously was in Prime as well as in a lot
of stuff. I guess you could say that he was in
Revenge of the Fallen, Mike. No, I cannot say
that. I will never say that. He is only in Prime.
He is only voiced by Darren Norris. Yeah, no.
All right, what do you think of Knockout, then?
I'll let him say it right here. This is going
to be juicy. That's right. It's going to be juicy,
because I know a lot of people that love this
character, and the cool thing about Knockout
and Prime is, as we've known over the last almost
40 years, the Decepticons are mostly planes or
trains or tanks or guns or cassette decks or
CD players or keytars. Knockout is in a class
of his own, along with the Stunticons, where
an actual Decepticon car, holy crap, I will say
this about Knockout. Knockout is basically the
Decepticon version of G1 Sunstreaker, but he's
better at the gloating and the worrying about
his paint and everything else. Yeah, Knockout
holds one honor for today, which is being on
the least amount of lists. He's only on 16 lists,
but I bring that up to say that that means he
was ranked pretty high. His average ranking is
actually 31 .3, which is one of the highest for
today. 16 lists, and if you think about it...
Only four of the people out of those 16 would
have had him revealed in one of the previous
two episodes. So that means 12 people would have
had him either in this episode or the next, including
seven that would have had him in the top 25.
So a lot of love for Knockout. He didn't get
ranked by a ton of people, but those that ranked
him ranked him high. Steve, what do you think
about Knockout coming in here in the top 50?
Oh, not going to lie, I forgot about him, but
he is one of the better Decepticons on Prime
anyway. He kind of reminds me of Sideswipe anyway.
He's been all over the place, too, because he's
listed as a Decepticon from G1, and he's listed
as a Decepticon from Prime, from Battle Masters,
and from Animated. And then he's listed as an
Autobot in Return of the Convoy, Revenge of the
Fallen, Speed Stars. I don't know what half of
that stuff is that I just said, but he's listed
about half the time as not about half the time
as a Decepticon. His character has been around
since the early 90s, and he's just changed identity
pretty frequently. Lady Rec, what do you think
of Knockout? Was he in the movie first? I don't
even remember seeing him in the movie first.
It says an automobile, a motorcycle. Yeah. It
was in the background. Oh, okay, a motorcycle.
That's right. He was a completely different thing
in that. All right. Thank you for refreshing
my memory on that. But the only knockout that
I would have been put on my list would be the
Transformers Prime knockout. Absolutely. Who
is awesome. Fantastic. I'm glad that he made
the top 50. Oh, I forgot. They put him in IDW,
too, because he's from Velocitron. Yep. Yeah,
that is awesome. And he played a really good
role in that, too. So we just got to see only
momentarily got to see him that. Yeah. Not too
much, but it was still good to see him. Alright,
so that's it for Knockout. Let's see who we have
coming in next. It's time for number 45. That's
right. It's time to go to another Autobot car.
So we already had Sideswipe today, and now we
have Hound. So Hound comes in here at 45th on
20 lists. So a jump. Everybody today, except
for Sideswipe, we're talking about 17, 18, 16
lists. Hound jumps up to 20 lists. Just turn
me loose, Prime. I'll sniff him out. Got your
fortune cooking? As highly ranked as 5th and
as low as 96th. So all over the map, a lot of
people had him in the forties. Um, and that's
where he comes in at 45. Mike, what do you think
of hound coming in next? Hound is interesting
because as I think I've said in a couple of their
countdown episodes, that first season of 16 episodes
of the generation one cartoon, everyone always
assumes that it was always spike and bumblebee
wasn't ever really the case. It was eventually
once season two happened, but in season one,
Spike Witwicky and Sparkplug and all of them
were always in other bots. It didn't matter whoever,
whatever. And the one episode I remember the
most is when they first land and Hound is taking
Spike and he's teaching him about the Dinobots
and the dinosaurs and this, that, and the other
thing and everything else. And I think having
him here is really great. I really dig Hound.
I wish Hound was used a little more. I'll give
the movie verse one cool thing with Hound. He
had a cigar, and he was voiced by John Goodman.
That's true. Pia had him ranked fifth. He was
the highest ranker. I find it interesting, though.
I feel like what this shows us about the countdown
is just how many good characters there have been
in Transformers, that we have a character like
Hound who's been around for so long, who seems
like just an iconic Transformers character, and
we're seeing him here at 45. That just shows
how many good characters there are still to come.
And if you look at it, he was ranked by 20 people.
10 of those 20 would have had him in today's
episode. So I feel like we're in agreement with
where he should go as far as those who ranked
him. Steve, what do you think? I'm really happy
for him to be here. He was one of my favorite
G1 characters, actually. Just kind of interesting.
I mean, he kind of enjoyed what he was around,
despite the fact of the situation. So it was,
in a sense, kind of like how Rhinox is that way.
But he's not afraid to get his hands dirty, and
so that was nice, too. I just, I liked the appeal
of him. I liked his characteristics and his voice
in the original series. Absolutely. Lady rec
last words on hound. Love the character. I didn't
vote him this far up. I think I don't remember.
I have to look and see, but yeah, no, no, he's
great. I think it's a good spot for him. Well
earned. All right, so we're going to have to
see what's next. And actually, what's next is
going to be coming something that we have not
seen since the first episode. So let's see what
that is. Starscream here. It's time for number
44. If only it were Megatron. All right, so in
the first episode where we revealed 100 through
76, we had two cassettes. We went all of last
episode without having any. So let's rectify
that with getting another cassette right here.
And we are talking about one of Soundwave's cassettes,
and that would be Laserbeak. Laserbeak, all the
way up here at number 44. But nobody had him
higher ranked than 15. Laserbeak, you tinfoil
turkey. So it was just a massive amount of people
that had him in that middle ground. So a lot
of 30s and 40s and 50s for Laserbeak. Mike, we
had obviously Frenzy at 99, and we had Ratbat
at 80, and then nothing now until we get to 44
with Laserbeak. What do you think? I had him
at 21, and I thought 21 was good enough to get
him a little higher than this. If you think about
it, Laserbeak and to a slightly lesser extent,
Buzzsaw were the two main cassettes that Soundwave
had in the beginning. And then obviously Rumble,
Frenzy and all of that, you know, Ravage. Ravage
obviously is another main one. But wow, I was
not I was expecting Laserbeak to show up in the
top 25. I was opposite of you. You had him 21.
I had him 84th. Really? Yeah. I don't know. For
me, the cassettes don't rank as high for me as
maybe they do for others. I had one ranked higher
than this, I believe. Maybe two. And it wasn't
this one. So I had two other characters ranked
a little bit higher than this one. But I don't
know. Laserbeak just... It's hard for me with
characters like Laserbeak because... I like so
much more when I get to, you know, the dialogue
and the character personality that comes out
when you have somebody that has dialogue. And
obviously, Laserbeak doesn't get that for most
of it. So for me, it knocks him down a little
bit, I guess, whether that's fair or not. I just
think... Go ahead. I don't know. I kind of agree
with you, but I also agree with that Soundwave
is essentially the voice. Like, he gives the
instructions and they carry it out. Right. I
mean, that kind of thing. Also, spoiler not spoiler,
that Laserbeak air razor chase was amazing. I
don't care who you are. Once you see it, you'll
see that was cool. All right. So, Steve, what
do you think about Laserbeak? So far, that means
three cassettes for Soundwave, zero for Blaster.
Well, to be fair, Blaster didn't really have
very memorable cassettes. They weren't seen very
often. I agree with Steve. They were not because
the fact that you can't really remember them
outside of the movie and they all were pretty
much carbon copies and sound waves pop out like
pretty much every episode. And they're almost
always laser beacon ravage or frenzy and rumble.
Laserbeak has traversed various series between
Generation 1, Armada, Cybertron, Animated, Aligned,
the movies, and then, of course, Cyberverse.
But honestly, I just, I really feel like his
character, yeah, there's not much there, but
he's definitely memorable and has led to multiple...
issues in the original animated series of just
because he spied on the Autobots and somehow
managed to get past their security system, which
seems oddly convenient. But he's definitely one
of those ones that, despite not really saying
anything or just being a drone, more or less,
you remember his name. Yeah. Lady Rekha, are
you surprised that so far the order has been
Frenzy, then Ratbat, and then Laserbeak? Or what
do you think? No, I think this is well -deserved.
I'm with Steve. I agree. Laserbeak, he has spanned...
You forgot to put the games. He's been in the
games, too. That's true. He has literally been
there all over the place. I'm actually surprised
that he didn't get higher, although I did rank
him at 50. All right. I almost nailed it. Still
though, yeah. I ranked him at 46. Oh, that was
real close. Missed it by that much. All right.
So I'm interested to see the reaction of the
next one then. So you want to rumble with rumble,
eh? So we get Laserbeak one cassette at 44. How
about another cassette at 43? We're going to
go with Rumble at 43. First we crack the shell,
then we crack the nuts inside. Almost identical.
Rumble was on three more lists, so Laserbeak
actually had a higher average ranking, but since
Rumble was on three more lists, that gets him
a little bit more points. Again, nobody had him
higher ranked than 18, so 15 was the highest
for Laserbeak. 18 was the highest for Rumble,
just on enough lists to get him into this spot.
So that means now we go Frenzy, Ratbat, Laserbeak,
Rumble. Steve, I'll let you go first on this
one. I like Rumble. I mean, I don't really know
what else to say about him other than the fact
that he's one of Soundwave's other memorable
cassettes, but pretty much he's only been a G1
in the Aligned, and he was in the games, too.
And yeah, he was in Revenge of the Fallen, technically,
and various other places, Cybertron. But yeah,
I mean, his most memorable part is in Generation
1, and that's him smashing stuff up as he does.
so well absolutely i had him i believe as my
highest uh cassette i had him ranked 33 so that
would have been 10 spots higher than where he
falls here at 43 but i'm happy that he's in the
top 50 i think he for sure is one of the few
cassettes that's worthy of that mike what do
you think yeah i think he's definitely worthy
of it he had the most talking points in g1 he
did some Interesting background vocals for the
games. I find it hilarious that he was one of
the Deceptihogs in Angry Birds Transformers.
That's just silly. Absolutely. LadyRack, are
you surprised that we have 56 spots separating
Rumble and Frenzy? Yes, very. It's like, what
did Frenzy do? From 99 to 43rd. Seriously, I
think I've seen more Frenzy in the last decade
than I have of Rumble, but whatever. Rumble,
I guess, just, you know, he rumbled into your
hearts and stole it, right? Right. All right,
well, let's go from these tiny little cassette
characters to a character that's slightly bigger.
Dear boy, it's time for number 42. Now give me
that Matrix! Alright, up next at 42, we have
another base coming in here. We've already had
a few of those. We didn't get any in the first
episode, and then last episode we had Trypticon
and Metroplex. And now, if you want to consider
Overlord kind of one, and then we also get this
one, which is... Fortress Maximus at 42. Decepticons,
prepare to face Fortress Maximus. So Fortress
Maximus got all the way up to third on Benson
Yee's list, was on 21 list. I was always more
of a Metroplex fan, but apparently others seem
to be siding with Fortress Maximus. Steve, what
do you think? I can see that a little bit. I
like Metroplex more. But I can see people definitely
siding with Fortress Maximus just because he
was in the Headmasters portion. Cerebros and
Spike being part of that. He did come into play
in the Generation 2 comic, albeit briefly. And
then he's been all over the place. I mean, he
was temporary Autobot leader when Prime was out
of commission in the Marvel G1 comics back in
the day, too. Oh, okay. interesting uh mike how
do you feel about the basis so far with trypticon
and metroplex already and now we get fortress
maximus i think it's good i think it's interesting
sadly at least if you only go by the u .s continuity
he didn't really have too much other than rebirth
but he did have a good run in idw yeah absolutely
lady rec fortress maximus fan or not I am totally
a fan, and that is exactly where I ranked him,
is at number 42. Oh, nice. Always fun when you
get one right on the spot there. Yeah, I was
going to say, cool, surprise. Fort Max is my
man. I love that we went from Laserbeak and Rumble
to Fortress Max. Just step on them. Just step
on them. All right, let's see what size character
we go to next. I believe it's time for number
41. We are on a G1 run, guys. So we've had Hound,
Laserbeak, Rumble, Fortress Maximus, and we're
going to stay there for this one. Let's go with
a character known by the name of Perceptor. Perceptor,
can you locate a place to sit down for repairs?
Gamma waves in this sector of space create marginal
navigation probabilities. However, yes, I believe
I can. The planet of junk is in this vicinity.
Then let's go for it. At 41. On 22 lists, average
ranking of 45. He comes in here at 41. Mike,
what do you think of Perceptor? I always hated
the toy. I don't know why I always hated the
toy, but I love the character in the cartoon
and the other places that he's shown up. I always
thought he was really cool. I love Paul Eiding's
voice for him. Being in the IDW continuity, they
did some interesting things with Perceptor. They
gave him... The version of him, I don't remember
him from Unicorn Trilogy because I've only seen
a few episodes of that, but that is a bizarre
-looking Perceptor compared to the rest of them,
which all look similar in different ways, I guess,
but that's a crazy version. Yeah, that cannot...
Oh, Unicron Trilogy. He's a combiner. He's a
Minicon combiner. Oh, Lord. That's what he is.
Yeah, they went a completely different direction
with him in Unicron Trilogy. But he's also been
in Animated. He's obviously been in Cyberverse,
Rescue Bots Academy, Primed. He showed up in
Prime, right? It says technically, I mean...
Maybe he did. Maybe in some of the graphic. Yeah,
it's the aligned continuity. Yeah, that's why.
Alright. Anyone else? Thoughts on Perceptor?
Awesome. I don't have a problem with him. He's
a unique bot and kind of a scientist and he declares
Prime dead more than once. I say that because
I think it's like victory. Prime comes back at
some point and it's Perceptor and Wheeljack declaring
him that he's going to die again. And they repurpose
his body for parts for a new Autobot that's stronger,
more of a lion. Leo Convoy, I think it is, or
Lio Convoy. And Wheeljack's like, no, we can
experiment and make it happen. Perceptor's like,
no, we can't. So they live a long life. The funny
thing about the IDW continuity with Perceptor
is IDW Transformers drinking game. Take a sip
for every panel of Perceptor shooting things
while looking badass. I think it's a good spot
for Perceptor. I think right around that halfway
mark is a pretty good spot. I had him a little
lower. I had him in the 70s, but I think this
is fitting for Perceptor. I had him in the 60s.
I had him higher because he was the best momentarily.
Yeah, you were the highest for Perceptor. But
a lot of love. I think, let's see, one, two,
three, four, five, six, eight people actually
would have had him in the next episode. So a
lot of love for Perceptor. Let's see which character
we go to next. We're getting into our top 40.
And now a nice and nifty musical selection for
easy listening. Hold on to your dancing shoes
and go, man, go! It's time for number 40. So
you wonder who's here? Who's here? Bet you don't
know who I'm thinking of. Bet you, bet you, bet
you. What about me, Magnus? What about me? I
can help. I want to help. What about me? Blur,
you can help me alert the others. Absolutely,
positively, definitely. Nobody can get to Jargon
faster than I can. Nobody, nobody, nobody. All
right. Stay with G1 here. Although this character
has appeared, obviously, in some other stuff
since then, we're going with the one, the only
Blur here at number 40. So been in Cyberverse,
been in Animated. Ben and Armada, obviously G1,
The Aligned Continuity, Blur at number 40. Let's
let the guests go first on this one. Lady Rec,
what do you think of Blur? I like Blur. There's
so many characters that I like that you can't
get them all at the same one. But yeah, Blur's
good. He's had some really good character stuff
in the last five years or whatnot. And yeah.
Good place for him. I don't remember where I
put him. I'm kind of skimming through it real
quick, and I keep on not seeing him. I had him
at 47, so I only missed this one by seven spots.
I forgot to mention this. Fortress Maximus, I
did not have Fortress Maximus ranked, but starting
with Perceptor at 41, I have every other character
the rest of the countdown, except for one, showed
up in my top 100. Oh, I think I didn't have him
on my list, unfortunately. Starting to get into
familiar territory. I love the character, yeah.
Good. I think Blur's a lot of fun. And he's been
a lot of fun in different ways throughout different
series. I think they've been creative with him.
I think they've done some cool things with him,
regardless of which series it is. He's one of
those that's had some legs, I guess, throughout
the years. Steve, what do you think of Blur?
I really like Blur, especially when John Moshita...
is voicing him uh he he got to play not only
the part in the original uh movie and the season
three but he got to play him again in animated
and then uh even though it wasn't voiced by him
in cyberverse and and everything uh i did enjoy
that character as well because uh he was you
know friends with bumblebee and hot rod and all
right zippy start talking First of all, the name's
not Zippy. As a matter of fact, I don't believe
I've ever met another bot named Zippy. Someone
can only assume that you came up with Zippy in
reference to my speed, which may be technically
accurate, but lacks a certain creativity. And
later you kind of get... Cheetor in the mix.
But yeah, I really like the character overall,
and he's had a lot of exposure over the many,
many moons of Transformers. Absolutely. Mike,
any last words on Blur? I still say Blur in Animated
is still alive. I don't care if Cliffjumper accidentally
threw him into the incinerator. I still think
he's still alive. I will say that Blur's best
moments... outside of the movie and G1 and his
whole adventure with Wheelie in season three
a couple of times is Blur the Bartender from
IDW. Amen to that one. They've gotten creative
with him, that's for sure. Well, I just have
to read this because just so everybody knows,
it's so fun. Following the defeat of the Necrotitan,
Blur boarded the return lost light to check out
its own bar swerves. He didn't recognize the
owner. All right. From one Autobot car to another.
Let's see which one's coming in next. Me, Grimlock,
say it time for 39. So today we've had Sideswipe,
Hound, Blur. And now we get another Autobot car
from G1. We're going with one of my personal
favorites, Mirage, here at 39. I had Mirage at
29, so 10 spots higher, but still would have
been in today's episode. Mirage was always one
of my favorites from G1. Just loved what he could
do, loved what they could do with that character.
I loved the toy so much so that I played with
it until it broke in half. So my Mirage is needing
some medical attention. I still love Mirage,
so I'm very happy that he's in here in the top
50. He reminds me a lot about Hound. I kind of
have those two in similar places. I had them
one spot ranked apart. I had 128th and 129th.
So, Mike, what do you think of Mirage being here
at number 39? Now that's the smartest thing you've
said all day. I love this. I think it's awesome.
And sadly, the TF wiki does not have a not to
be fused. not to be confused with section for
him. So I will say not to be confused with the
silver Hawk ship. Um, but I love Mirage. I love
him in G1. I, I absolutely love how they did
his, his stuff in siege and earth rise, how he
did his cloaking as I remember when they, cause
again, Netflix is sometimes slow to do things,
but. When Hasbro released the toys, everybody
was going crazy over it. I think it was the Siege
Mirage, because he had a Decepticon logo on.
Everybody was going nuts. Oh my god, they made
Mirage a Decepticon. We should riot like the
stupid fans that we are, kind of thing. And it's
Mirage. Between him and Hound, they always use
illusion. And again, not necessarily to bring
in another franchise, but... As we all know,
illusion is the ultimate weapon. Mirage has been
around forever and popped up in just about everything
from G1, Marvel Comics, IDW Comics, Beast Machines.
There's a character named Mirage. Robots in Disguise,
Armada, Energon, the live -action movie, Animated,
the Aligned Continuity, obviously, like we were
talking about here with War for Cybertron Trilogy.
So Mirage is a constant character that they go
to to bring along with whatever series they seem
to be doing. Steve, is Mirage Top 50 worthy in
your mind? Oh, I definitely think so. He's he's
done so much, you know, even the first episode
of the show. I mean, he managed to pull one over
on the Decepticon. So it's everywhere you look
about it. I think he's a very important part
of the Autobot army. Yeah, absolutely. 13 of
the 20 rankers had him in the top 50. Six of
them would be in the top 25. Seven of them would
be in the top 50. Lady Rec, what do you think
of Mirage? I didn't have him on my list, sadly,
but that doesn't mean that I don't like him.
That's all right. There's only so many numbers
you can rank. Exactly. But when I was also filling
this in, I was like, okay, you get your first
top 25 for sure. And then everything after that
is like, oh my gosh, then you realize just how
many characters you really like and where you
want to put them. And yes, there's sadly going
to be some that do not make the list. So he was
one of them. Absolutely. All right. That's a
lot of G1 characters in a row. What's that? One,
two, three, four, five, six, seven G1 characters
in a row. Let's see if that streak continues
next. Beast Horse Megatron at 38. I will kill
you, Mike. So should we not do this next one?
Well, well, well. I bet you thought this would
be me. But it's not. No. Give me number 38. Yes.
All right, coming up next, we are going to the
world of not G1. We're going to the world of
Beast Wars. All right, so for 38, we already
had one Beast Wars character, but that was a
maximal at 48, which was Rhinox. Ten spots later
at 38, let's have our first Predacon for the
day. We are going to the character named Waspinator.
No. Waspinator is in command. Waspinator will
lead. Yes. Give record of the future. Ultimate
power. That was a Decepticon from the Great Wars
three centuries ago. He's wacko. Wacko? No. Wonko.
Wonko the Sane. The royalty demands a new colony,
and we shall take it. By force. Yahoo! Now you're
talking! How's about it, bug boy? You ready to
rip? No. What? But the royalty commands! I said
no! Dragonbot command you, Subcommander Kissbot!
Dragonbot not command Waspinator! Not anymore!
Waspinator sick of being evil, sick of being
Predacon! And Waspinator especially sick of getting
blown to scrap all the time! So, Waspinator quit!
As of now, which means Ant -Bot and Tourette's
can just pucker their mandibles and plant big,
wet, juicy one right here on Waspinator's big,
fat, stripy... So Waspinator here at number 38.
On 17 lists, so a little less than what we've
seen for most of the last eight or so characters,
but a lot of people had him ranked very high.
We had a... Some of that had him ranked 5, 9,
12, 14, 15, 15, 17, 21, 23, 24. So those were
all people that would have had him in the next
episode. And then about four more people that
would have had him in today's episode. The problem,
like we've talked about, Steve, is just not enough
people ranking him. So he does not make the top
25. He sits here at 38. What are your thoughts?
Well, nobody left West, but later. I had him
listed at number 12. It's a little sad because
he did manage to somehow make it back to Cybertron
to become Thrustinator. Although we don't know
and I don't think he was launched by a coconut
tree. He had to have been, you know, put something
together and come back. But anyways, I don't
know. He was the character that was supposed
to realistically die in the series, and they
thought it would be funny to just keep blowing
him up and rebuilding him, and somehow he's the
only one that doesn't die when he gets blown
to shreds. Because, I mean, you look at what
happened to Tarantulas in his last foray, and
he was blown to itty -bitty pieces, and Waspinator's
been blown to itty -bitty pieces. i don't know
i i think that he was definitely like top 25
worthy at least but i feel confident and happy
that he at least made the top 50 yep absolutely
so that's eight beast wars characters so far
and i believe yeah eight and that's two here
in the top 50 um later rec you said you didn't
uh vote for a lot of beast wars characters but
was waspinator maybe one that snuck in for you
or no Oh yeah, he was in there. He's done some
fun things in IDW land. And sadly his, his shtick
is the whole, somebody always blows him up and
he says the same thing. It's great. I love his
character. It's great. Mike, what do you think
of Waspinator? It's just, it's so, it's just
so funny because I have like, I have heard so
much Waspinator audio and getting various clips
for this and for other things we may do in the
future here on the network. Because Waspinator
has some of the greatest lines. Waspinator, no,
I am Decepticon. Shrapnel, shrapnel, shrapnel,
shrapnel. Decepticon here. Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow.
Yep. Yep. And, yeah, absolutely. I think he deserves
to be a little higher, but I'm glad he's here.
I was with you, Steve. You said you had him ranked
12th on your list. I had him ranked 15th. So
I think he was one of the ones that was deserving
of the top 25 from that series. If nothing else,
you remember Waspinator and his antics in the
episode. Even if the rest of them, like Scorponok
and Terrorsaur ultimately are forgettable, which
is why they killed him. Waspinator was not. And
that's why he resonated and stayed. He almost
was the only competent second command that Megatron
had after the fact, even though he was an idiot,
too. But he was just so enjoyable to watch on
screen. A lot of fun. Yeah. And that's why he
started off this episode with the quote that
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going to come up with our first. And you might
not realize that it is the first, but unless
I missed one, we have not had a triple changer
up until this point. So this would be the first
triple changer on the list. Maybe the only triple
changer. We'll have to wait and see. Number 37
is the Decepticon Astro Train. Way too low. Okay,
Mike, go ahead and take over. Way too damn low.
Astro Train, you know, he got them out of there.
He saved the day. Jettison some weight or I'll
never make it to Cybertron. Come on. What has
he done since then? He's shown up in Cyberverse.
True. He was still hauling everybody's ass everywhere.
He says he was in Animated. Was he in Animated?
Briefly. I think he was. Your favorite says he
was in Dark of the Moon. Hasn't he been in War
for Cybertron? No. Yes. Yes. Wait, has he? Yes.
Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I don't remember. He
was not really in it. I mean, they list him as
being in animated, but he wasn't really. I mean,
he was mentioned, I think, in one episode. That's
it. I love TF Wiki's quote underneath him. Choo
-choo rocket. That's true. A good way not to
be confused with Astroscope. which was a Minicon
team satellite in the Unicron Trilogy, not to
be confused with Quintessa or Space Warp. Where
are they getting these? I don't know. Well, there
is the Japanese market. Okay, that might be.
But he's also in... He was technically in Masterforce,
too, but he goes all the way through Headmasters.
Oh, okay. All right. All right. So, Mike, you
think he should be higher? I know it's hard when
we do top 100 countdown because everybody says
higher or lower, and I never know which direction
they're talking about because I don't know. When
I say higher, I mean it needs to be closer to
number one. Yeah, no. Like the whole point of
your whole system and the way we do this, 100
gets one point, number one gets 100 points. Right.
You know, the higher we go in the numbers is
counting down, not counting up. I had him ranked
at 46, so I'm fine with him being right here.
Yeah. Oh, God. TF Wiki. So they have the picture
of him crowning Starscream. The caption under
it, I guess you could say it's his crowning moment.
Not really. I love Astrotrain. I think he's great.
I think he needed to be used a little bit more.
I know he and Blitzwing had a couple of spotlight
episodes in Season 2, and he had a few things
in Season 3, but let's face it, his highlight
is saving everybody's ass in the movie and basically
saying, well, they were the same guy. The most
common ranking was in the 50s. Seven people had
him in the 50s. Lady Rec, what do you think of
Astrotrain? I do like the character. He's done
a couple memorable things over the years. I've
liked that. I did put him in the 80s section.
He did make my list, so that's good. There we
go. Steve, are you surprised that it took this
long to get to a Triple Changer? Kind of, but
there's really only a few that are memorable,
and that's Astro Train, Springer, and Blitzwing.
No love for Sandstorm. Or Octane. Yeah. Octane
was a triple changer? Yeah. Well, he had a poor
way of showing it. What do you mean a poor way
of showing it? He's a tanker and a jet. Whatever,
Starscream still, you know. Starscream scared
them so much he's half tank, half jet at one
point in Starscream's Ghost. Yeah, well, I just
thought it was a bad animation, so. Oh, Mike
and Steve, settle this outside. No, I'm just
kidding. But, yeah, it'll be interesting to see
if those other ones that have been mentioned
will show up or if they're left off. Let's see
what we can reveal next. I bet you you didn't
think that he would appear here, would he? It's
time for number 36. All right, next up, territory
that we have not been at since... Ranking number
96. So 96 was the only time that we have had
a Seeker show up on the countdown until now.
So from 96 to 36 without any Seekers. Which one
is next? We're going with Skywarp at number 36.
On 22 lists. All the way up at 6th for Tyler
Bleszinski. Average ranking of 40. He comes in
here at 36. Steve, we had Thrust at 96, and now
Skywarp at 36. What do you think? I think it's
well -deserving. I mean, honestly, I liked Skywarp
a little bit more than Thundercracker. I like
the fact that he could teleport. Yeah. Watch
it, you metallic mini meatball, or I'll step
on you. What a frenzy. Geekworks made for a geek
like you. But also, yeah, I mean, he's one of
the main three Seekers, and although he becomes
one of the Cyclonus' armada. He becomes Cyclonus.
Yeah, either way. No, it's factual by Flint Dilley.
But, well, and Thundercracker's Scourge, so they
become important. Finally. It's funny that they
get to outlast Starscream, though, and basically
get completely reprogrammed to not be cowardly
fools. But, yeah, I don't know. I'm pretty happy
that he shows up here. Mike, another character
that apparently shows up in the live -action
film series, I guess. And also Maximal Eagle
in Beast Wars 2. Mike, what do you think of Skyward?
I think it's pretty cowardly he's not higher.
Okay, then. You should have ranked him higher,
then. Well, yeah, I know. Of course it is. It
always is. Anyway, yeah, it's funny we were talking
about cowardly because over in Animated, he was
the coward Starscream clone. I thought that was
funny how they did that in Animated. No, I always
loved Skywarp. I always preferred him over the
other two. I never really wanted a G1 Starscream
as a kid. I always wanted Skywarp and Thundercracker
more than Starscream. Those were the two that
I always didn't have was Skywarp and Thundercracker.
I have them both now, but they were two that
I never had growing up. I always had all the
secondary ones. I had Ramjet and Dirge and Thrust
and Starscream, of course, but I never had Skywarp
and Thundercracker. I don't know what... They
were trying to traumatize me, I guess, as a child.
No, just kidding. Let's see. We had eight people
that would have had him in the next episode.
Eight people had him in the top 25. Lady Wreck,
what do you think of the Seeker representation
so far with Thrust and Skywarp? I got to admit
a little bit of blame here for him being so low.
But when you were about to say the number, I
said, oh, I bet it's Skywarp in my head. And
I was right. He didn't make my list. I gave more
luck to the other two. Fair enough. Fair enough.
All right. Next up, we're going to reveal a character
that four people had in their top 10. The kid
was tough. He went out fighting. It's time for
number 35. All right. Four people had this character
in their top 10, and it is at least. Two out
of the people that are on the record, possibly
three of us, but I know two of us had him in
the top ten, so we'll see what their reactions
are here. It's been two picks since we had a
Beast Wars character, so let's get back to Beast
Wars. Number 35, Cheetor. I had Cheetor at eighth.
Mike, you had him at second. Oh, yeah. Easy.
So you go first. Hey, look at me. I'm a cheetah.
No, no, I'm Cheetor. Interesting. Interesting?
Optimus, the word is spot on smooth. It's a crime.
Hey, I wonder what these gizmos are for. I think
it's time to shred some bread. What do you say
we give these new bods a test drive? I am transformed.
So the reason why Cheetor made number two for
me was because Cheetor is in Beast Wars throughout
Beast Wars and Beast Machines. And I think we
are kind of severely discounting Beast Machines
at certain times in this thing, but whatever.
Cheetor has a full arc from the beginning to
the end. In the very first episode of Beast Wars,
he's kind of like this preteen. By the time we
get to his spotlight, Feral Scream 2 -parter,
he becomes a teenager. And by the time we get
to Beast Machines, he's pretty much a young adult.
He has this whole aging process throughout the
cartoon. And what I loved about that was not
only is it character development in James Corlett,
slightly modified the voice as he went along
to show you that this character is growing up
throughout these cartoons and i think i i'll
have to get the quote later but one of my favorite
quotes is actually from beast machines let's
give these new bods a test drive absolutely love
that because i love the inflection and i love
that eventually essentially cheetor is the hot
rod slash rodimus of the beast era he's that
kind of say that again no no he i'm serious he
is that he's that kind of character he's that
character that grows up and eventually is supposed
to be the leader of the autobots or maximals
i think it's interesting that we do see a jump
here because the highest uh number of lists that
we've seen a beast wars character on was 17 and
now we're that was both uh rhinox and waspinator
Cheetor is up to 20, so there was three more
people that apparently wanted to list Cheetor
that did not list Waspinator or Rhinox if it
worked out that way. So a few more people listing
Cheetor as a character. Steve, I don't remember
where you had him, but what do you feel about
Cheetor coming in at 35? Well, I had him at number
18, mostly because I don't think he's exactly
top 10 material, but I definitely think that
he is top 25. So I have him there, and yes, he
does evolve through the Beast era and change
his bodies as much as Optimus Primal and Megatron.
But he's basically Hot Rod in... Beast Wars.
I mean, he starts off kind of more like Bumblebee
and Hot Rod kind of mixed, and then kind of more
like Hot Shot and Hot Rod, and then kind of a
little bit of his own. But he also showed up
in Cyberverse, which is, I think, partially why
he's showing up where he is, is because people
got a re -exposure to the character through that
show, and honestly, it wasn't that bad in it.
Could be. Absolutely could be. Yeah, we did.
That was great. Lady Rek, did you have Cheetor
on your list? I didn't. There was only a handful
of Beast Warriors characters that made it on
my list, and he wasn't one of them, unfortunately.
But that's okay, because I still love him. Steve,
you said you wanted him to be in your top 25.
He missed it by 10 spots to be in the overall
top 25, so just missed it. All right, let's see
where we go next. It's time for number 34. Next
up, we're going to one of those big, huge guys
again. Let's take it all the way up to Omega
Supreme for number 34. So a lot of big characters
today here with Overlord, Fortress Maximus, now
Omega Supreme, as highly ranked as number eight
and all over the board, probably the most common.
rankings was in the 30s, which is where he shows
up here, 34. Go back to you, Mike. What do you
feel about Omega Supreme? And if we have this
in the right order, we went Metroplex, then Fortress
Maximus, and then Omega Supreme. I want to know
about it. Order received. I am Omega Supreme.
I am Omega Supreme. I am yours to command. I
am your pupil. Your dependent, your obedient
servant. I am Ratchet. I am your friend. Personally,
I would have switched Metroplex and Fortress
Max, but having Omega here is really cool. He's
been in a lot of stuff, and sadly they could
never really get his origin truly straight in
the original cartoon. My favorite, though, just
like with the Constructicons, is the origin that
was told in that episode about them being friends
with him and them eventually getting turned into
Decepticons and yada yada yada. I just think
that's cool that he is kind of the last Cybertronian
city, even though in the original cartoon he
was on Earth for the most part. And I just I
love when he shows up because you always know
that something is going to happen because he
is one of the last Guardian robots. He's part
of that line that's like right. He's not a bot,
but he's right before the war. He's he's part
of that peaceful time before the war. And then
he gets thrown into it. And I just love what
they've been able to do with him throughout the
years. I mean, the fact that they turned him
into the ship in Animated was really cool. When
he shows up in the games, I love that. That's
always cool. I always felt it was... I know we
said when we were talking about Metroplex and
Trypticon that it always was those two. The fact
that Trypticon and Omega Supreme show up in,
I think it's... Is it War or Fall? I think it's
War for Cybertron. you know that they have those
two kind of in there and i was like oh i would
kind of like to see a battle between omega supreme
and and trypticon that would be cool he was always
one of the toys that i wanted as a kid but i
did not have i had metroplex and i love metroplex
but i always wanted omega supreme too um steve
what do you think of omega supreme coming in
here at the 34 spot funny enough i had him listed
at 34 um actually three people did it's crazy
um I think he's definitely worth it. I love the
character, not only because he's just got this
big, booming voice, and it's Jack Angel, too,
but I love the concept that he's this rail car
system with a rocket, and then he becomes this
giant juggernaut robot. It's a crazy transformation
in the animated sequence. Oh, yeah, and there's
things that are just, he's a parts former, for
sure. And then he's he's an Energon voiced by
Scott McNeil and basically helps Prime and combines
with him at a certain point. And then he's in
an animated as the Ark and voiced by, you know,
multiple people throughout the. Oh, man, it's
amazing what they did with him and animated for
voice actors in season two. He's Kevin Michael
Richardson in season three for Lamar. Yeah. And
so it's funny on that. And then I love seeing
him in the War for Cybertron game. That's just
icing on the cake. But I think people love him
because he's such a strong bot. He's that last
line of defense. He's got the shuttle mode and
the robot and the artillery tank set up. And
then just the colors and the design. I had him
just sneaking in the top 50. I had him at 49,
but I'm happy with where he's at. Lady rec. What
do you think is a good placement for Omega Supreme?
I think that's a good spot for him. I didn't,
I ranked, I ranked him a little bit lower, but
he was definitely on my list and you're right.
The game was fun playing, seeing him in, in that
he's, he's done the rounds. Like he's been there.
Like it just says you're, you know, naming off
the things that he's been in. It's like, Oh,
that's right. He was in that. Oh, that's right.
He was in that too. I was like, Oh my goodness.
Yeah. It's a good spot for him, yeah. Absolutely.
All right, so so far each episode we've revealed
a number one on somebody's list. So the first
episode we had Transformers Reanimated's number
one pick, Powerglide, fall. In the second episode
we had Piaw's number one pick, Snarl, fall. We're
going to have somebody else's number one pick
fall next. It's time for number 33. The interesting
part about this is the number one that's falling
next is on one of our lists. So let's go to number
33, our second triple changer of the list. Lady
Rec, you start us out because this is Springer.
Awesome. I was kind of hoping he'd get a little
bit higher, but I'm okay with this. It's rough
out there, kid. I am so happy that you had him
ranked number one. When your list came in and
you had Springer number one, I was ecstatic because
I didn't know how much love Springer would get.
I've always been a huge Springer fan, and I wanted
him on the list so badly just to piss off Mike.
I had him ranked number 30 and he came in here
at number 33, but I was happy with the amount
of love he had because 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8,
9, 10 people had him in the top 30. He was on
25 lists, which is the most in the countdown
so far. So we have not seen anybody appear on
more lists than what we've seen with Springer
right here. So I am happy. Let's go to Steve
next so Mike can end with the negativity. Steve,
what do you think about Springer being right
here? I got better things to do tonight than
die. I don't have a problem with him, honestly.
I don't dislike the character. He's not my favorite
by any means, but I don't dislike him. And I
think it's kind of cool that he got to lead the
Wreckers and basically was second in command
of the Autobots, whether it happened or not.
But he was also in Animated as one of the Cyber
Ninjas. He's one of the few that have gotten
multiple rounds. I mean, he was in the War for
Cybertron as well, too, game. But yeah, I mean,
I love the fact that he's a triple changer. I
like that he's voiced by Neil Ross, who we got
to talk to a few years ago, and he's got the
helicopter in the car mode. Out of those, he's
pretty well -rounded. I find TFWicked even funny
again. Not to be confused with Hopper, Springarm.
The next one's interesting, though. Not to be
confused with Bulkhead, who is an homage to G1
Springer and shares his Japanese name with him.
I did not know that. Yeah, this is one of those
ones that I actually, I had the toy, but I loved
the cartoon version much better than the toy.
The toy is kind of weak, but I liked him in the
actual animated version, and I know he has had
quite a bit of life, obviously, in the IDW stuff,
which I need to read. But go ahead, Mike, tell
us why Springer is not deserving. First of all,
there's only one version of Springer that's not
deserving, and that's the cartoon version because
he's a homewrecker. Oh, stop. Second of all,
second of all. There's a mute button. Second
of all, in IDW as the leader of the Wreckers,
was it when we, I know it wasn't when we did
Last Stand. I think it was when we either did
Sins or what was the third one, Amy? Requiem.
Did we ever do Requiem? I don't know if we did.
I don't remember. I don't think we did. So basically,
there's a Wrecker trilogy that Nick Roche wrote
and drew and everything else in the IDW continuity.
It's Last Stand of the Wreckers, Sins of the
Wreckers, and Requiem of the Wreckers. And with
one of those, I actually, it was like right around
the time we were going to interview Neil Ross,
because I think we've interviewed him twice.
Anyway, I... Sent several of the IDW lines that
Nick Roche wrote to him to have him voice the
character for us for that comic episode. And
I'm sure I'll fit them somewhere around here
somewhere. Turn up and shoot. About as fancy
as it gets with us wreckers. You want to spend
all day calculating tolerable margins of error?
Call Prowl. For those of you that don't know
this, here on my right, Twin Twist and Cup. On
the left are Perceptor and Topspin. My name's
Springer, and I'm in charge. I just absolutely
love being able to sometimes go to the voice
actors if we're getting an interview with them
and saying, hey, would you mind just doing this
for us really quick so we can homage this part
of it? And hearing Neil's, because Neil obviously
is one of the only ones that ever did Springer.
Hearing G1 Springer do the IDW lines was so awesome.
As far as having him where he is, I think this
is perfect. Excellent. As long as Rodimus shows
up further down the line. We'll see. All right,
so let's go to a territory we haven't been to
for a while with our next one. Well, well, well,
Megatron. I'll be leader next. It's time for
number 32. So when it came to the mini vehicles,
if you listened to the first episode, you probably
thought we were going to have a thousand of them
because in the first episode we gave you Swerve,
Warpath, Powerglide, Brawn. We had a bunch of
them. And then the second episode came and we
gave you Beachcomber. And that was it. And that
was at number 73, and we have not had another
one until number 32. So that is 41 picks without
a mini vehicle. We get that right here with number
32, the one and only, my favorite mini vehicle,
Cliffjumper. Cliffjumper, commence countdown.
Five, four, three. I want to boot some Decepticon
right in his turbocharger. Easy cliff jumper.
So cliff jumper here at 32. This was my first
favorite Transformers character. When I was little,
this was the first one I gravitated towards.
I wanted... Cliffjumper to get the time that
I eventually saw Bumblebee get. I was like, no,
why aren't we doing more with the red one? Get
away from the yellow one. I had Cliffjumper ranked
at 27. He comes in here at 32, so that's not
far off. Actually, a lot of people, 1, 2, 3,
4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 people had him between
17 and 32. Then everybody else had him in the
30s and 40s. Nobody had him lower than 65. So
two people in the 60s, one in the 50s, and then
everything else is basically 40s, 30s, and 20s.
On 22 list, I love Cliffjumper. I'm happy he's
here. Mike, what do you think? Well, I want to
say this now. Since you love Cliffjumper, I do
have a comic book story you can read that you
don't need to read everything with. Are we doing
a drinking game where every time Mike suggests
a comic to me, somebody has to do that? You know
what? Hey, you need to read the... Seriously,
you need to read some of the IDW stuff. You do.
It's really, really good. So anyway... I think
I've read this one. We covered it, remember?
Issues 5 and 6 of Galaxies. So basically, Issues
5 and 6 of Transformers Galaxies, which was a
one -shot kind of thing. There's a two -part
story that involves Cliffjumper. You don't necessarily
need to know everything. But it's basically Cliffjumper
feeling like he needs to find himself. And everybody
in this, not to spoil it for you, Kevin, but
everybody in this story is like, oh, it's Bumblebee.
Oh, it's Red Bull. And he's trying to come to
terms with who he is kind of thing. And at the
end of it, he kind of knows who he is. So I'll
send this to you later. But it's one of those
things where it is very cool that he is here.
May the man rest in peace. It's been seven damn
years since Casey Kasem died. If there is one
voice in the entire cartoon besides Optimus,
you know, if there's one other voice that you
always remember, it's always Cliffjumper, whether
he's counting down things in the movie, whether
he's got Megatron in his viewfinder. It doesn't
matter what it is. Casey Kasem as Cliffjumper.
You can never forget it. I'm sure all 22 people
that ranked him ranked him because of the Minicon
pickup truck partner to Cheetor that appeared
in Armada. No, I ranked him because he was the
rock in Transformers Prime. Yeah, me too. He
was awesome in Prime. I didn't realize he was
even in Armada. I just thought that was a funny
line, pickup truck partner to Cheetor. Also in
Energon, also arguably the dead Autobot car from
the live -action film series. In Animated, in
Prime, in Cyberverse. Lady Rec, what do you think
about Cliffjumper? I love him. He's great. I
think he was one of those that got another surge
when Prime and all that came out with that character.
I thought that was cool. He's been around. He
was even in the Fall of Cybertron game. One of
my favorite levels was between him and Jazz.
That was fun. It was awesome. That is what I
expect Autobots to be like right there. Just
hanging out, shooting the breeze. trying to get
a job done, get the mission finished. And they're
like, you know, picking at each other. It's great.
Yeah, I like Cliffjumper being here. Yeah, that's
good. I really like the Generation One character
a lot. I didn't really care for him as much in
some of the other renditions, but the kind of
cocky nature and the kind of, you know, gung
-ho, ready to go. part that he had in the aligned
with, with the rock playing them, it definitely
kind of fit with that, that vibe of the G one
version. And I, I'm glad that he's here, uh,
to represent from absolutely one. So you can
get out from underneath the bumblebee shadow.
All right. So we've, we've seen enough of that
over the last 20 years, right? 40 years. Yeah.
So we had three beast wars characters in the
first episode. Three Beast Wars characters in
the second episode. We've revealed three so far
today. And we'll break the threes. We will get
our fourth next. Well, well, well. Let's hear
31 Starscream. All right. 31. Going back to the
world of Beast Wars. Three people, including
myself, had this character ranked at seven. And
a lot of people had him in the top 25. That'd
be 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 people had him
ranked in the top 25. I don't know why I keep
saying him. It's a her. It's Blackarachnia. Blackarachnia
here at 31 also did appear, obviously, in Animated.
We're about to have company. Sorry, Chunkstar,
but I like being a bad girl. And you know something
else? Somewhere deep beneath this squeaky clean
armor plating of yours, I think you'd like it
too. Blackarachnia. And wipe our homeland clean
of the stench of Autobot tyranny, blah -de -blah
-blah -blah. You wouldn't hurt a helpless female
bot. Most people had her ranked in the top 50.
There was three people that had her 59 to 64.
Otherwise, basically the whole rest of the people
had her in the top 50. A lot of people, like
I said, in the top 25. Lady Rekha, I heard you
react first. So what are your thoughts on Blackarachnia?
So I'm glad because it's a female, of course.
I was pretty much all I did on my list was Wreckers
and the underappreciated females and underdogs
that I thought really needed to be up on that
list. And Blackarachnia did make my list. So
yeah, she was one of the few Beast Wars characters
that I put in there. Nice. Absolutely. I'm happy
with it. Steve, you were thinking maybe some
other characters. Does Blackarachnia surprise
you or what are your thoughts? No, I definitely
had her in my top 25. I had her actually listed
at 16 because there's so many awesome arcs that
she has in Beast Wars where you really don't
know what side of the line she's riding. And
it's definitely very personal to her character.
But what I enjoy about it is that it's self -interest,
self -preservation as far as her character is
concerned. And I definitely think that she's
very... deserving of this, having been through
the entire Beast era and one of the few female
characters to get more time of day than what
Eraser unfortunately got. So yeah, I definitely
think she's worth being in this list. It's funny
because I hate spiders so much, yet Tranchalus
and Black Ragnian are so good. I know. I'm extremely
arachnophobic, but Black Ragnian and Tranchalus
are so good as characters. That's why I ranked
them so high. I think I had them both in my top
10, was just because of the complexity of their
characters. It's so much more than just the...
The cardboard character that has no depth, like
they gave these two characters so much complexity
in the writing. So that's why I had her in my
actual top 10. I thought she had a chance of
being in the top 25. She misses it by like five
spots, but I'm not going to be too angry. Mike,
what do you think? I love it. I think it's great.
I think it's awesome. I love that they had, you
know, they did all the stuff with her. I love.
What they did with her in Animated, that was
awesome. But basically, Beast Wars, Blackarachnia,
so good. And that makes her the 10th Beast Wars
character in the countdown. So, all right, let's
see what we have next. Let's hear number 30.
Yes. We are now entering top 30 territory, so
that means we only have a few picks left today,
five to go through. And we're going to start
by going back to G1 and another Autobot car.
This time, we're talking about Cup. So Cup is
number 30. DJ Valentine had this character ranked
the highest, which was fourth. Two people had
him in the top ten. About six or seven people
had him in the top ten. Everybody else had them
in the 30s and 40s. Nobody, let's see, the lowest
ranked was 73rd and 86th. So 23 people wanted
Cup on the top 100. Steve, what do you think?
Being that I ranked him at number 28, I'm pretty
close there. I'm pretty happy about it. I really
like the character. I like the gruff personality,
the almost grandpa vibe that you get from him.
And I know that he's in Cyberverse 2, but to
me it's Generation 1 all the way. And I know
he's had a lot of influence in the comics, whether
IDW or Marvel. aspects of that um but the the
fact that he's he's that character that tells
all these old war stories and that he has all
these things that he can relate a story to or
um just that i just love the the characters just
right in a lot of ways like you know the sarcasm
and the yeah you little punk um and like It just
reminds me of my grandparents, to be honest.
So it's so fun to listen to him in the show and
see him play out in any of the mediums, honestly.
It's interesting. He comes in here at 30. Steve,
you said you had him at 28. I had him at 32.
So we were both two off in different directions.
I think for me, what Cup represents is one of
the rare times that Transformers has actually
been able to do a good job distinguishing age.
in the characters because so many times everybody
seems to be about the same age now i get it there's
some that come across a little bit younger etc
but we don't get a lot outside of obviously you
have alpha trion that comes without saying that
he's going to come across as being an older character
but within like just the rest of them like comes
one of the best examples of them really defining
age within the characters not just having kind
of this gray area where everybody seems to be
about the same age so i really appreciate that
about cup mike what do you think i've had worse
than this I've been spiked by Squadron X, dipped
in the smelting pool, framed for treason, shot
into the sun, and I was the only bot still trapped
inside the nightmare engine. When everyone else
woke up, I've seen off every rinky -dink two
-bit catchpenny Decepticon rust poker, and I
got the dents in my knuckles to prove it. End
of the day, I'm ready for anything you can throw
at me. This has been a reading by TFG1 Mike.
That's right. And that is from Burning Bright,
which was part of Chapter 8 of Dark Cybertron
in IDW. Look. Nice. Every line that he says in
the cartoon, everything he does in the movie,
because really he was in the movie and then in
parts of Season 3. But again, lately over the
last, I would say, five years, five years or
more, I have felt that. Sometimes certain characters
get to shine more in comics than they do in animation.
And Cup is most definitely one of those. Yes,
he has some great moments in the movie and everything.
And that's awesome. I love him in the movie.
I wish Lionel Stander was still here. Sadly,
he's not. Man, I'm so glad he is on this count.
If Cup wasn't on this countdown, everybody would
be... Up in arms? Everybody would be lambasting
us, basically. They would be calling us, you
know, of all the circuit -blown -eyed, diode
-dim -wittery. It's interesting. Because for
Autobot Cars, we only had two in the first episode.
We had Trax and Red Alert, and that was it. In
the second episode, we only got Sunstreaker.
So we only had three cars in that half. Today,
I think we've been making up for it because we
had Sideswipe, Hound, Blur, Mirage, and now Cup.
So quite a bit of the car action here. Lady Rec,
what do you think of Cup? Oh, he should absolutely
be higher because I ranked him number seven.
All right. Everything that Mike said, like, amen,
amen to the man. So we'll have to see how many
cars remain, but let's go to a different type
of character next. There is no honor in number
29. So today we've had a lot of G1. We've had
a handful of Beast Wars. You could say that we
had Transformers Prime representation with Knockout.
Let's get a little animated representation, although
he also obviously did appear in G1. Hey guys,
it only makes sense. If we're going to have triple
changers today, we might as well get all three
of them. So Blitzwing is next at number 29. I
know there was more than three triple changers,
but it's triple, so we've got to have three of
them. So Mike, I'll let you go first, because
I know you're a huge fan of the animated version.
So why Blitzwing here in the top 30? I will choose
this fighter jet. No, the assault tank! Jet.
Okay, first of all, coming in at number 29, I
love it. Personally, as a kid, I was always more
of a fan of Astro Train than Blitzwing. However,
once, because I liked Astro, Astro Train's toy
was more sleek. To me, it was more streamlined,
and Blitzwing was this big, bulky, beige and
purple thing that flipped this way and flipped
that way. I loved him in the cartoon, I loved
him in the movie, but what Animated did with
him was so cool. They gave him three personalities
for the three modes. And if any of the three
personalities didn't agree on what they were
doing, they would all end up mismatched. Basically,
like I mentioned earlier about Octane, when Octane
got scared the crap out of by Starscream's ghost.
Like, there were times in Animated where you
would see Blitzwing in all three modes because
he couldn't decide what he was doing. He was
one of the bright spots of Animated. I'll say
that much. Interesting note here, he was the
pre -production name for Obsidian from Beast
Machines. So that's interesting. The movie series
did something kind of weird with him. It made
him like a triple changer seeker. So that was
an interesting take. But Blitzwing, it's either
G1 or it's animated. That's the two versions.
So Steve, what do you think of Blitzwing being
top 30? I don't mind it. I mean, I like his Generation
1 version, but ultimately, I'm fine with him
being on the list. I don't know if I'd put him
quite this placement in the list, maybe in one
of the previous episodes. Yeah, I mean, overall,
not a bad option. Ten people had him ranked in
the top 30, so they will all obviously be in
favor of this. A lot of other ones had him in
the 40s. There was like seven people that ranked
him in the 40s. And two people had him right
on the nose at number 29. He's also, I didn't
mention this, but he appeared on 26 lists, which
breaks Springer's record. 26 is now the highest
number of lists that someone has been on. So
only seven people left Blitzwing off. We're getting
into impressive territory there. Lady Wreck,
what do you think of Blitzwing? I like Blitzwing,
but I did not have him on my list, unfortunately.
Yeah, I can see that, too. Yeah. Especially with
the triple changers. Like, for me, it's Springer,
and then it's probably, I don't know, Astrotrain
and Blitzwing are kind of in the same realm for
me, but I can see them being on the other half
of the top 50. I can see people leaving them
off. I think his animated version is what catapulted
him. higher than those other two possibly. Yeah.
I just haven't seen them for a little bit. So
I think that's the reason why I kind of didn't
put them on there. But then again, I had astrotrain.
So there we go. So hard. One or the other. Everyone's
got to pick. Yep. All right. We only have three
picks left. Let's see who they are. There's no
power of the primes here to save you. Number
28. So the cassettes have gotten a lot of representation
in this top 100 so far. So let's go back to another
one. It's another one of Soundwave's minions
here. There's only one left, right? One major
one. Ravage. Yes, this is Ravage at number 28.
What happened? Ravage, he escaped. Perfect. The
rocket base is 140 kilometers due west of the
Autobot camp. Excellent, Ravage! Excellent! Also
on 26th list, just like Blitzwing, so only 7
people left Ravage off, but nobody had Ravage
ranked higher than 18. So he gets all the way
up here to 28 without ever being ranked higher
than 18. So a lot of people had him 18 through
about 36 is the majority of people that ranked
him, and then a handful of people had him in
the 50s and 60s. So, Mike, let's go through it
one more time, and I'll get your reactions here.
So that would go Frenzy, then Ratbat, then Laserbeak,
then Rumble, and now Ravage. Did we get it right,
wrong, or what do you think? Frenzy needs to
be a little higher. Between Ravage and Laserbeak,
they almost should have been one of the ties
coming in. Because again, as I said earlier,
Ravage and Laserbeak were the ones that were
used the most in the beginning of the cartoon
series. Again, we talked about Hound this episode.
That whole episode with doing Hound wanting to
do the hologram. There was only one time that
Ravage ever spoke to my memory and recollection,
and that was the time when he was giving the
report on Sherman Dam in that episode. But I
just love Ravage. I think he's cool. I love how
people will do, and there was actually a toy
of this. I wish I actually had it, or I'll find
a picture of it later. There was a Transformers
G .I. Joe crossover action figure with the Baroness
holding Ravage on a leash, and I thought that
was such a good thing at the time, because it
makes so much sense if you're doing a Transformers
G .I. Joe crossover. As far as him being where
he is, I think it's good. I think if you're going
to have anybody higher than Laserbeak, it would
have to be Ravage, because he's kind of the most...
I don't want to say emotional, but every time
you see Soundwave with Ravage outside of his
cassette deck, he's always petting him. He's
always, you know, whatever. I just got a picture
of Dr. Claw petting the cat. Yeah, pretty much.
I got you. Yes, that's right. And then I do have
to mention before you move on, and I know Steve
might mention this, but a couple of Decepticons
were rebuilt and given amnesty. I'll let Steve
talk about Ravage in Beast Wars. Yeah, we'll
get to that in one second. I had Ravage in Laserbeak
at 83rd and 84th. Ravage higher. And then I had
Rumble and Frenzy 33 and 34. I had them way higher.
But I can see Ravage over Laserbeak in a way.
I just think there's more to him. I think he's
been used more than Laserbeak has over the years.
But Steve, what do you think? I definitely think
that he's been used more over the years. He tends
to show up a lot in Generation 1, also as the
same role as Laserbeak, just on the ground. But
he's also been in a lot of other mediums. He's
been in a lot of other... the games. He's been
in the live -action movie, which doesn't count.
It definitely doesn't count. He's been in a lot
of other animated series. But he also made it
to Beast Wars, and he was upgraded into a Predacon.
And what I love about his character there is
that he's like, you're no Megatron. I serve the
original, and you're nothing like him. And he's
like, oh, really? And just shows him and basically
makes... Ravage is cowering lackey by the end
of the episode. And I also love the fact that
Ravage transforms back into a cassette and drives
a ship. And that kick -ass music that comes in
after he says, Decepticons forever! The other
thing with Ravage is that, yes, we know, the
movie stuff doesn't technically count. However,
Ravage with his purple eye was the only movie
toy I ever owned because he had a purple eye.
Nice. Lady rec, last words on Ravage. Well -deserved.
I think that he definitely, if you haven't had
a chance to read the IDW version of Ravage, he's
pretty awesome. So definitely check that out.
I'm not going to spoil anything, but there are
some pretty. heart -wrecking moments in that.
Basically, Ravage just jumps on your chest and
rips your heart out, essentially. He also talked
and was part of the Decepticon leadership in
the Marvel Generation 1 universe way back when.
All right, let's see. We only have two spots
left in today's portion. Next one will be the
only other character that is not on my top 100
at all. So hopefully you guys are fans. Me Grimlock
say it time for 27. All right, it's been since
number 42, Fortress Maximus, since we've had
one that wasn't in my top 100. We're getting
another one here at number 27. A lot of fans
of the big, huge characters, guys. And I did
make sure this is not the Beast Wars character.
We're talking about the G1 slash other things
that he's been in since then. Number 27 is Scorponok.
So, Scorponok. The Decepticon, Headmaster, Titan,
Base, whatever you want to call it. He was also
in the Unicron Trilogy, technically the live
-action film series, animated, Robots in Disguise.
He's been around a lot, especially a lot of the
Japanese stuff from G1. I know there was a Scorponok
character in Beast Wars. This is not that one.
But a lot of love for the bases, Mike. From Trypticon
to Metroplex to Fortress Maximus to Omega Supreme,
now we get Scorponok. What do you think? We basically
have all the important ones. Is this the last
one, then? I would hate if it was, because Scorpion,
stupid bugs. I will say, I'm going to have to
look it up, but... For the longest time, I was
a stupid kid, folks. I'm a stupid adult, but
that's beside the point. I always thought G1
Scorponok in Rebirth, Zarek, was voiced by Vincent
Price. It is not. I think it's Stan Jones or
something. But seriously, if you listen to that
voice in the Rebirth, to me, it sounds so similar
to... Vincent Price. I would have had Metroplex
here or Fortress Maximus. I would have not had...
Basically, I would have had any of the other
city bases here than Scorponok. Ten people rank
Skorpanak in the top 25. We're also breaking
a milestone here. We're into the 1 ,500 -point
section. So we started today at the 1 ,000, kind
of right around the 1 ,000, and we're up to 1
,500 now. So that's crazy. Steve, what do you
think of Skorpanak? Yeah, I mean, I think he's
deserving. He's shown up in more than one capacity,
whether it was a base or something else. He was
in Generation 1. He's in the Headmasters. uh
yeah it's named after the beast wars character
but it doesn't count um then the unicron trilogy
you give them the movie universe and then robots
in disguise although energon's probably the closest
he is to this um and then he did show up in war
for cybertron earthrise uh that's true briefly
as well i believe that he's also one of the ones
actually mike you're wrong it's not stan jones
it's stephen keener no it's not i just looked
it up it's stan jones It's on the wiki. It's
on the wiki. Okay, oh yeah, Scorponok, Zarek,
but Zarek was the voice of Scorponok. Yeah, well,
it's his voice actor. Anyways, so he made it
through all of Headmasters and into Super God
Masterforce as well. Yeah, definitely interesting.
I think I would have put Scorponok and Fortress
Maximus down on the other side of 50 and kept
Omega Supreme. I would have actually put Trypticon
and Metroplex up in this section instead, but
everybody's got their favorite bases, so it's
kind of to each their own. LadyRack, any thoughts
on Scorponok or the base argument in general?
No, no, I think he's a good... I'm not really
familiar with the base bases, but I did like
him in the comics, so that's why I threw him
in here. Excellent. Alright, so that means there's
only one more character that just misses being
in the top 25. Let's see who that is. If they
don't cut the cheese, it's time for number 26.
Talking about missing it just by that much. Number
26. Well, let's get our 11th Beast Wars character.
One more Beast Wars character. Mike, calm down.
Anywhere from being ranked third all the way
to being ranked 90th on 23 lists. We're talking
about Rattrap. Oh, damn. At 26. So just missing
the top 25, but our 11th Beast Wars character
overall. Steve, I know you're not happy because
you were the one that had him ranked number three.
So go ahead and react first. That's some crap.
I mean, for crying out loud, he's had one of
the best arcs and character types out of the
entire Beast Wars. And he had to evolve a little
bit. But I mean, overall, he's pretty much the
same guy, like a demolitions expert throughout
the whole thing. And he likes to trick the Predacons.
But I mean, for crying out loud, he... the, the
comedy between him and Dinobot is hilarious or
really him and anybody. Cause he doesn't, he
doesn't really care. I mean, I watched the trigger
earlier and he, you know, tripped out pterosaur
and landed on his back. Um, told him more or
less, I'll shove this in your hindquarters. Um,
if you don't fly. So, uh, yeah, I mean, rat trap
is. probably one of the best funniest aspects
of beast wars and for him to not make the top
25 is kind of sad but at least he made it and
just missed it by not much got a pair of belly
bombs here with your name right on them eat them
and wait interesting to look at two people would
have had him in the first episode the night the
100 through 76 two people one person would have
had him in the next episode and then 10 people
had him in this episode 10 people had him in
the next episode so 20 people had him in the
top 50 out of the 23 people that ranked him so
um 26 mike what do you think i think it's a good
spot for him considering what everything else
has fallen so far I do think he deserves to be
a little higher, maybe 20 or 19. As Steve said
already, what I will bring up is the humor. Not
only the humor, but the seriousness and the character
development that they gave to him in Beast Machines.
The humor with him and Botanica, but the seriousness
of that one episode where... Where he has to
barter for weaponry. Where he has to barter for
weaponry. I feel like they ruined his character
in that show. I don't. It took all the fun out
of him. Like, yeah, he had some elements, but
yeah, I don't know. I think Beast Wars for him
was kind of where it's at. And then he shows
up in the comic universe, too. A lot. Yeah. And
you're right, but here's the thing. Between Beast
Wars and Beast Machines, they took him from a
cool -ass transmetal at the end of it. And turned
him into a techno -organic rat that he had to
adjust to things. He had to... I can say this,
and I'm not trying to offend anyone, because
I am a handicapped person. Hell, at one point
or another in the future, I may end up in a wheelchair
myself. You look at Rattrap's character design
in Beast Machines, to me it reminds me of someone
stuck in a wheelchair. But he has to adapt to
everything. Again, that episode where he has
to go to Megatron because he wants noisemakers
and everything else. His character has to work
around things and relearn things. You look at
that entire thing with him, out of all of the
beasts, he is the one that learns transforming
again last out of everybody because he's kind
of like me. When he finds something that works,
he sticks with it. And when it changes, it sucks.
And I'd like the character less now. No, I'm
just kidding. I'm not taking away from anything
that Mike said, but I do much prefer him in Beast
Wars. Like Steve said, I had him ranked 22nd
along with two other people. Three of us had
him at 22nd. So I would have had him just on
the other side of the top 25. Lady rec, what
do you think about rat trap? I like rat trap,
but unfortunately he was one of those that did
not make my list. One of the more unique voices,
too, out there for a Transformers character.
We didn't get to see a lot like that. All right.
So I am going to go quickly through the 25 that
have been revealed today so that you guys can
have a second to gather your thoughts and any
final surprises or what you thought about the
revelations today. So starting with number 50,
we're going Sideswipe, Overlord, Rhinox, Whirl,
Knockout, Hound, Laser Beacon Rumble. Fortress
Maximus, Perceptor, Blur, Mirage, Waspinator,
Astrotrain, Skywarp, Cheetor, Omega Supreme,
Springer, Cliffjumper, Blackarachnia, Cup, Blitzwing,
Ravage, Scorponok, and Rattrap. Mike, what are
your reactions? Looking at the whole list, especially
this part, it's really interesting to see how
this is coming out. I was not expecting it to
be this way. I like it. Like I've said in this
episode and the previous ones, I think a few
things should have been moved around just a little
bit, like with the bases and that kind of stuff.
But this section, I think it fell correctly.
What a testament to the amount of good characters.
I mean, think of all the characters that I just
named off and how great they are. And they're
in the 26 through 50 Porsche and lady rec. What
do you think? Some well -deserved. I of course
wish Springer was a little higher, but other
than that, I have to agree. It's, it's a good,
it's, it's, it's very well, well placed. We got
to see a couple of records today. Well, Springer,
um, and then Steve, Yep, Cup. And Steve, we got
to see quite a few Beast Wars characters more
than we did in either of the other sections so
far. So what is your reaction to what you've
seen so far? I'm a little sad that they bowed
out this early. But I'm glad they made the top
25, if nothing else. Still a little sad that
some of the ones that got knocked out the first
episode weren't a little closer to this. But
overall... I think I have a pretty good idea
of the characters that are going to hit the top
25. Yep, this is the point of the countdown that
usually gets a little bit more predictable of
what's going to be at the top 25. Also, those
people that are trying to do the work at home,
you can do some process of elimination and see
what probably is left for the top 25. And if
you have more than 25, then you risk those other
people not being on the countdown at all. So
that's where it becomes interesting, because
now they're either top 25 or they didn't make
it. Mike, another thing that we saw in the first
two episodes, we got to see a little bit of a
variety of, you know, even had a few live action
film characters that showed up like Barricade.
We had a variety of Transformers Prime and animated
and then quite a few people or characters actually
that were mainly probably represented from the
comic world. Today, it seems like we took a turn
from that, and we almost went exclusive G1 Beast
Wars back and forth with the exception of maybe
the animated Blitzwing and the knockout. Plus
Overlord. Overlord. Yes, but other than that,
we've kind of seemed to go G1 Beast Wars. Is
that what it's going to be for the rest of the
countdown, or do you feel like we might have,
without naming any characters, might have some
more slide in? I am hoping that some of the more
unique characters, because... Steve is well versed
in the Marvel stuff. I'm not, I never read it
for me. It's always been the last, you know,
13, whatever years, 14 years, 15 years for IDW.
And I'm hoping that a couple of them will show
up in this. And obviously if let's say, for example,
G1 character here that started out in the cartoon
also has more development in the comic, specifically
to IDW for me personally, then obviously I can
talk about that character's evolution like we
have today. I don't know. I know one thing. Steve
is going to blow a gasket unless Megatron is
not in the top 10. You're probably right. Wait
and see. Another thing that will be interesting
about today's episode is, after it's all said
and done, have we seen the last base? Have we
seen the last cassette? Have we seen the last
triple changer? Some of those things. Have we
seen the last of certain types of characters?
As far as a thing that did not get discussed
at all today. Which we talked about quite heavily
in the other two episodes was combiners, whether
it's the pieces of a combiner or the combined
form. We talked about that in the last two episodes.
Never came up today. So is that part of the countdown
over as well? So it's just that type of stuff
that we have to start putting together as the
pieces all start to fall into place and everything
becomes pretty obvious as far as what's going
to happen next. Steve, any other final thoughts
before we close this thing out? I'll give you
a chance. More or less, I'm happy for what showed
up. I'm, again, like I said, disappointed on
some of where they placed, but I'm happy that
they still made the list. I have predictions,
and I'll share those privately, but of the top
25 I think are going to be left. You must be
aware of Steve's predictions, because every time
Steve predicts something, it usually happens.
Well, I won't have them in the correct order.
I will know who's in it. It's a fun game to play.
I would be doing the same thing if I was him.
Yeah. I just deleted everything from my secondary
list and I'm playing that. So I have based on
the fact that we're getting into the top 25,
I happen to feel like I know where we're going,
but yeah, I'm definitely excited to see where
we go in the last one and whether Megatron makes
the top 10 or number one or not. Shut up, Mike.
I hope for your sake Hot Rod gets out at 25.
Hey, at least he made the top 25. What if Megatron
doesn't even make the list? And Megatron will
still stomp on the bones of Hot Rod. So anyways.
I can't wait until we fight next time. I can't
let them be fighting words. So yeah, I definitely
think I know we'll have at least a combiner.
Maybe two. I think Unicron's going to show up
no matter what, unless people are just that sick
of him and decide to not put him anywhere up
that high. But there's still three Beast Wars
characters that are very prominent out of the
remaining six or five. Yeah, six. So we're going
to have some pretty interesting characters chosen
for the next episode, I'll say. Another thing
to consider, guys, is so far we have revealed
three participants' number one pick, one in each
episode. Well, we had 33 list guys, so that means
30 number ones have yet to fall. And let me tell
you, they're not all on the same character. Next
episode, we're going to see 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6,
7, 8, 9, 10 different characters that were number
one. on somebody's list. So they're all unique.
They were not repeated. Right. So out of the
20, out of the 25 characters, 10 of them were
at least on one person's number one. So a lot
of people are going to be reacting different,
different ways as we go through, because everyone
wants their number one to be number one. It just
can't happen. There's 25 spots. So we're going
to see how that falls. Lady rec last thoughts
for today's episode in this countdown overall.
May the best character win. I like it. Mike,
we'll give you the final word and then you can
take it away. Yeah, it's going to be interesting
to see, you know, certain beastly bots be cowering
fools and other things happen. Yes. Thank you
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