051 – 15 Years Of TFG1 Part 1 – The Cybertronic Spree's Transformers 1986!

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of course do you join mike and joining me this

time around is mike sybert from mike sybert radio

program and something about being mike and furious

i don't know what that is all about if only there

were two of us yeah really Yeah, yeah, I am one

half of Two Mics, Two Furious. Animated Transformers,

where we talk about Transformers animated one

episode at a time. Absolutely, absolutely. Today

we are celebrating, as this will release December

12th, 2020, whatever the hell year this is, 15

years of me being... a podcaster in 15 years

of this podcast, even though I think the last

time we released an episode might have been 2014.

I don't remember. We're going to be talking all

about the Cybertronic Spree's original album.

Not original album, because we did that already,

but their album, Transformers 1986, because back

in August, as I said, we talked about Ravage,

and now we talk about their cover album from

the Transformers the movie soundtrack. Holy crap.

Yeah, man, it's it's really good. You know, in

preparation for this conversation, I've been

bumping this both back and forth on my commute.

And it's been a while because like I've been

on a huge ravage kick. Lately, especially since

I recently saw them in concert, saw them open

up for Max Sabbath, which is a whole nother conversation

we could have at a different time. I think I've

been permanently scarred by Ozzy Osbourne, Ronald

McDonald, and it's bizarre. I would describe

Max Sabbath as an experience. I don't know if

it was good. I don't know if it was bad, but

it was certainly an experience. So seeing them

and Cybertronic Spree during the More Than Meets

the Eye, M -E -A -T -S, for their fall tour there.

So anyway, I've been on a huge Ravage kick. Getting

the opportunity to revisit Transformers 1986

really rekindled a feeling that I had at the

time. This album rules. It rocks so hard. I'm

really excited to do a little bit of a deeper

dive and have a lengthier discussion about it.

I really enjoy this album. I don't know what

the original... I have the 10 tracks because

you sent them to me and all that. I made a playlist

on Spotify with them and I arranged them in the

order that the songs are supposed to happen in

the movie. I don't think that's the original

track listing that they put together because

I had to move all these around to remember where,

okay, escape happens here and then hunger happens

and then this happens and then that happens because

I need to listen to the music in the order that

it was done in the movie. But yeah, 10 tracks,

37 minutes -ish, just over 37 minutes. And my

only complaint is the one instrumental part out

of all these original 10 tracks from the original

soundtrack release, the instrumental that Stan

doesn't dare, Stan Bush doesn't dare, that to

me is one of my favorite, if not my favorite,

musical cues ever. And it just sounds weird when

they're doing it, when Cybertronic Spree's doing

it. I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just saying

I got weirded out a little bit because I'm like,

wait a minute. The song itself is great. Absolutely

great. But just that one cue, it's like, I don't

know. In fact, I think that's actually a really

good place to start because like I I have a lot

of feelings and opinions about this iteration

of dare. And I think you and I are kind of on

the same wavelength of vibe wise about kind of

like that instrumental breakdown in in the middle.

And it's fascinating because like I've been asked

a number of times. what my favorite part of transformers,

the movie is, or like what my favorite line of

dialogue is, or, you know, my favorite, whatever

with, with regarding to transformers, the movie.

And it's interesting after having these conversations

and really thinking about it. I think when I

think of the transformers, the movie, what really

kind of crystallizes the most in like my seven

year old child brain that really kind of. fired

those synapses and really just kind of set my

imagination on fire is the entire dare sequence

from like the time that, you know, uh, Daniel

wants to go see this boring old shuttle landing.

Um, and hot rod wants to take him up to lookout

mountain because that's like, you know, his best

makeout spot. And, uh, you know, just like, as

soon as like Daniel gets on, on that, uh, that

aggressively unsafe hoverboard. And and the song

kicks in, you know, it just it it gets it gets

the hair on your arms raised. But further on

what what I've crystallized is to my favorite

part of Transformers. The movie is when the Decepticons

are coming down and there's a there's Blitzwing

and there's shrapnel. And, you know, Blitzwing

is like, come on down, Autobot. And and that

part. That's the specific cue, and it's in this

instrumental breakdown that we're talking about

now, is when Blitzwing's scope, you're seeing

it from his point of view, and you see the scope

go up and down and all these cool extra graphics

like Terminator robot vision as he goes to lock

in on Hot Rod there. and then of course you know

cup comes around the corner and and you know

saves the day and all that all that other stuff

but like when i think of transformers the movie

at like its most basic elemental aspect is that

musical breakdown where it's like you know and

so it's like that that is what is crystallized

in my brain so when i got the uh download for

transformers 1986 and again i've i've been a

fan of the spree for a while that's well documented

no need to necessarily recover that here but

yeah i mean it's like you know we're doing no

legislation so but but no i um that that was

the first track i listened to and that was kind

of the measurement by which i kind of measured

the album And I kind of agree with you to an

extent that, like, it's not quite the same. Like,

you know, the notes are a little different. The

tune is a little different. It's different. And

I don't want to start this conversation off on

a sour note, but, like, for that one micro bit

of a moment within a song that is otherwise wonderful.

I did kind of find myself let down because it

doesn't quite hit the same way. Yeah, it doesn't

hit the same way and it doesn't have the same

punch as the original version does. Yeah, it's

kind of, and I think we could talk about this

with regards to some of the other instrumental

songs and kind of how the overall sound and texture

of Cybertronic Spree is like, you know, it's...

it's it's kind of sludgy at times like you know

the the guitars are thicker and chunkier the

synthesizer is is a little uh brighter and in

a slightly different key um and plus we've had

you know 35 years plus to hear these songs over

and over and over so when you when you get to

a different version it's you know your your brain

is going to trick you into uh knowing that it's

something else so i i find myself you know through

listening to this album looking for the differences

and oftentimes delighting in in those differences

like so you know i i know i started it kind of

on a negative with with regards to dare but dare

is still My favorite song of the soundtrack.

It's my favorite song in the movie. I'm a dare

guy more so than the touch guy for a variety

of reasons. And I think it is the standout track

on Transformers 1986 for the fact that it knows

what to do with its two lead singers. It's taken

a Stan Bush power ballad and turned it into a

rock opera duet. So it's like, you know, like...

splitting the parts between Hot Rod and RC gives

the song a whole new wonderful texture that I

didn't know I needed, but I'm incredibly grateful

to have a just as powerful and exciting version

as the one that sparked my imagination when I

was seven years old. It's a cool thing to have

a song come. and um ignite your imagination the

the same way as an adult i i love this version

of dare because like i said it it utilizes both

of their voices so perfectly and so well i never

thought that this uh this song would be a duet

but it's uh it's it's terrific yeah it really

does work with their voices and how the duet

is done and yeah really that's the only like

that's the only mark i give against the entire

album is that the the synthesizer solo the breakdown

part of dare the rest of it is great i love the

instrument the way they did death of optimus

prime is amazing the way that they did escape

is amazing yeah i'm sorry weird al eat your fucking

heart out this version of dare to be stupid is

almost better than his version of it yeah like

it's it is Very, very good. It's just, and, you

know, I'm not going to, you know, take too many

points off for the one section, but, like, the

rest of it is really freaking good. Yeah, it's

phenomenal. So to jump off from a couple different...

points that you made there with, with regards

to dare to be stupid. I like it. And it's interesting

that this recorded version kind of represents

a little bit of a time capsule because I've,

I've since seen the spree live a couple times

and it, I can hear how hot rod has grown and

developed as a vocalist because in the recorded

version of dare to be stupid, it's. He is kind

of doing a riff on Weird Al. It's like there's

almost it's not quite an impression impersonation,

but but there but there are certain like phrasing

choices that he doesn't do in contemporary versions

of it. Like, you know, I can hear his delightfully

Canadian voice coming through in the live versions

more so than in the in the recorded version.

sorry, I can hear you now. Sorry, I can't hear

you. It's just very much from Cyber Toronto as

the spree hails from there. But yeah, that's

the only bit of it. The rest of it is, yeah,

it's kind of like in the key of Weird Al, but

again, like I said, when they do that live, he

sings it in a different key. And I think for

my taste, it's better for it. Well, the thing

about it is, like, I wasn't, like, I wasn't sure

what, because today, right before we did this,

like, I've been listening to this all damn day

long to make sure I have these songs stuck in

my head. Even though I know the songs, I don't

know, I didn't know these, this version of these

songs. So, yeah, but the way that they do the,

like, we all know what the original sounds like.

It's very corny. comedic type of... We all know

Weird Al. We all know Weird Al has an obsession

with the accordion, which is fine. It's great.

It's awesome. Again, I love the original version,

but I didn't know what to expect with this version.

I just kept looking at it and looking at it,

and then I hit play, and I'm like, oh, that's

okay. They rocked it up a little bit. There's

no real... I mean, I'm sure there's an accordion

in there somewhere, but... It's not as pronounced

as it is in the original version, and I just,

like, literally, I might put that on my favorites

playlist. That's probably one of the only songs

off here I will switch over into my favorites

playlist. And it's interesting with that, too,

because it's interesting to have this conversation

after we've talked about Ravage, after we've

experienced Ravage, because with Ravage, their

first album of... wholly original original music

that they've written and performed themselves

they are a rock band straight through whereas

whereas the style of music that weird al plays

is you know it's pop and satire and parody um

whereas everything every bit of these songs because

i mean the transformers the movie soundtrack

is you know known for being eclectic you know

where it's like you have some more hair metal

power ballads mixed with heavy synthesizer, mixed

with prog rock type of texture, and then a Weird

Al song thrown in there for good measure. So

it's already an eclectic mix of songs, but with

Cybertronic Spree being such a rock -forward

band with a rock -forward sound, they bring that

texture to all of the songs and kind of gives

it... a consistency in sound and tone that the

original soundtrack doesn't. This sounds like

a complete album performed by one band with kind

of like a singular vision, even though there's

this weird tonal shift between songs. It sounds

complete and consistent, if that makes a lick

of sense. Yeah, it does. And again, going back

to the fact that we you and I started with Ravage,

we started with the current the the the wholly

original album and hearing what they did on that

for themselves and for their fans and everything

else. And all of those songs are original. And

then going back and listening to this, it's like,

oh, I know exactly where they got certain things

for for for Turbo Heart or whatever on the new

album. And you can clearly. hear the influences

on the new album versus doing what they're doing

here and i will say briefly as i mentioned earlier

i reordered these tracks so the original track

order because i actually have the folder up now

transformers sound uh transformers theme dare

is the second track autobot decepticon bottle

is third instrumental destruction is four death

of optimus prime is five Nothing's Gonna Stop

Us Now is six, Dare to Be Stupid is seven, Escape

is eight, and The Touch is nine, and Hunger is

ten. I get it, but I'm one of those types of

people that if I have music to anything, if it's

a score to a movie, it has to be in sequence

with the events of the film. and I had to reorder

these and put them where they're supposed to

be so I can play through the movie in my head

as I'm listening. But I absolutely love what

they did with this stuff. It's so fun. It is.

It's terrific. And while we're on that topic,

I kind of want to talk about the track ordering

a little bit because I think if you look at the

track order, for Transformers 1986 compared to

the original soundtrack album for Transformers

the movie, they're wildly different. They're

in a completely different order. And I would

love to hear from the bots what some of their

motivation for some of these track orders is.

Because like you said, Mike, it's not... It's

not in the order of the movie. But conversely,

neither is the soundtrack album. I happen to

have it in front of me, so get this. So in the

original soundtrack album, the first song is

The Touch. Then it goes to Instruments, then

Death of Optimus Prime, and then Dare after that.

And then it's Nothing's Gonna Stand in Our Way.

Side two is the Transformers theme. escape hunger

autobot decepticon battle and then dare to be

stupid closes it out so tonally it's very very

different and neither one of these track listings

as you were saying earlier is in uh the order

or the cadence of the movie but having having

seen the cybertronics breed live a couple times

um you might have noticed this when you got to

hunger at the end of the track it has a a lot

of extra flourishes at the end and and that's

their closer that that's that's the song that

they close out their shows with so you know they

close out the album the same way uh uh they close

out their shows but like i i i found so i listened

to it in track order just to kind of kind of

get myself into the bots head to kind of kind

of figure out where they were motivationally

and it feels like it's very top -heavy with the

more rock -forward songs. I think starting off

with the Transformers theme is a masterstroke

because it's the Transformers, and it's like

if you're going to own that, then own that. And

I think following up with Dare and then going

right into Autobot Decepticon Battle, it's like

you have this driving momentum, and then... you

get into instruments of destruction and then

that's when you realize that wait a sec rc is

the lead singer here and this is like so you

gotta wait three songs for her to really cut

loose and i remember this being kind of like

a mission statement song for kind of what they're

about i mean like i love hot rod he uh he holds

his own he has terrific stage presence But Arcee

is the star of the band. I mean, let's not kid

ourselves here. But the thing that's fascinating

is after you get off this maelstrom of these

first four songs, then you go into Death of Optimus

Prime. And that seems like a seemingly odd choice.

But for myself, for my collection, I have...

so many different versions of this album. I was

a Kickstarter backer, so I got it on CD and download,

but I also have it on tape, and I also have it

on vinyl. In fact, actually, humble brag, I have

one of the test pressings of Transformers 1986,

and there's only 24 of them. in the world and

i was able to snag one and i've got like a half

dozen versions of it in a variety of different

colors i love this album but what's but where

i'm going with that is that we spend so much

of our time listening on either uh streaming

or cd it's fascinating to listen to albums being

curated for either cassette or vinyl where it's

like you know you have a side one and a side

two and each kind of has their own vibe so ending

side one uh or a or whatever you want to call

it with death of optimus prime is is pretty cool

because it kind of closes off that chapter or

that half of the album and you had alluded to

it earlier but like i had forgotten how affecting

this version of death of optimus prime is because

like We had talked about the comparisons with

the notes. This version has all kinds of crazy

different notes, and there's all kinds of different

drum fills that aren't there in the original.

There's a lot more guitar, and it's not a different

composition, but it is different enough to where

it's noticeable. And I'm kind of regretful that

I don't listen to it often enough. because quite

frankly when i when it comes up in sequence i

generally skip it because it is it is dour it's

it's sad it's it's affecting It is, but the thing

is, is, like, and you're right. Normally, if

I'm, I mean, unless I'm actively listening to

the full score that Vince Ticola and Entrata

Records put out a couple of years ago, unless

I'm listening to that, yeah, this soundtrack

album, you're probably going to end up skipping

Death of Optimus Prime after you hear it once

or twice. You're not going to go back to it.

However, the Cybertronic Sprever, like, I could

listen to this all day. Yeah, it is dour. It

is what it is. But the way they punch it up with

the guitars and everything else that they're

doing in it, it's like, it's so, like you said,

it is pretty much the same as the original, except

they punch it up a little bit more. And it's

just so good. absolutely so and then that kind

of gets us into you know side b or side two depending

upon what what your media is and then to start

off with nothing's gonna stand in our way and

and that and that's a fascinating song too because

like you know the the vocal starts off with hot

rod but he almost kind of like hands it over

to rc at some point because like you know She

kind of closes out the song like it's like it

was so weird. I was listening to it earlier today

and I guess I hadn't listened to it closely enough

because it's a lot of him at the start. And then

at some point they kind of switch places. It's

like kind of like this weird handoff song that

like it's not it's not a duet in the way that

that dare is. But it's they do this crazy cool

thing where they just kind of like switch singers.

It's it's really neat. I'd have to listen back

to it, and obviously it'll be after this episode

is released, but when I do listen back to it,

I want to listen to see where the timestamp is,

where the change happens, because it is an even

four -minute song. So what if they did something

so radical as to give him two minutes lead and

then to have her finish the last two minutes

to give them equal time as the singers? That

would be really cool. Now, if it came to like

four or three or four or four or four minutes,

10 seconds, whatever, be a little weird. But

since it's a straight four minute song, that

would be kind of interesting to see if they just

each got two minutes of the lyrics. Yeah. And

then from there you go into Dare to be Stupid,

like we already talked about. And then Escape,

you know, Escape is my favorite instrumental

just because it's so. uh breezy you know i i

love a good chase theme and even from like the

original vinstacola composition like i think

one of the reasons why i like escape the most

is because it evokes uh uh portions of dare you

know it's like it's got some of that same thematic

uh texture to it but it also brings in a lot

of kind of like the classic g1 tv uh type of

thing you know anytime i hear a like you know

it's like anything that evokes the the actual

transformers theme which other other tracks don't

do nearly enough i think this is the one that

that really puts that right on front street to

where it's like, no, this is not only it's, it's

a terrific chase theme, but it's a Transformers

chase theme because it has so much of that. So

many of those notes in there. And like we were

saying with, with the other instrumentals, you

know, it's like, you know, having that, that

difference between like a different style of

guitar playing a different. style of synth playing

like i mean like again like the the guitars are

like you know sludgy and inky and and and deep

you know it's like there's like a lot of like

deep bass that that goes into it that that none

of that is kind of in the original it's it's

got a different texture to it it absolutely does

now you said sludgy and inky and my first thought

is okay hot rod get your razor razor blade ready

you got to cut that squid up yep yeah oh my gosh

Now, I do agree with you on Escape because Escape

is, you know, get to this shuttle. We don't have

much time. The Decepticons are here. We got to

get out of here. And I know that they were covering

off of the album soundtrack and not the full

score because the full score wasn't released

until 2016, like I said, on Entrada. But, man,

closing in. Oh, my God. So this is once they're

in space. and Galvatron starts, like, but that

instrument, like, I'm so glad they didn't touch

that, because that one is, like, out of every

piece of Transformers music I've ever heard,

closing in is by far my favorite, because that's

the Cyclonus, transform and attack. Yeah. It's

that whole scene. But, yeah, Escape is great

from Cybertron X -Free. Again, like we said,

they punch it up a little bit. They add a little

bit of their own flavor to the more rock side

of it. And it's fun. That's the thing about this

album. It's so fun. feel about their version

of the touch? At least it wasn't freaking Marky

Mark. You got the touch! I'm one of those types

of people, folks, that I, like the original album,

I like the produced material, anything. I don't

mind going to concerts and experiencing the music

live, but you're never going to... There's only

one album currently that I will listen to that

is a live performance, and that is Blackstone

Cherry's Live from the Royal Albert Hall, y 'all.

Because Blackstone Cherry, when they are live,

they sound just like they sound when they are

doing an album recording or whatever. I have

never liked listening to live music on vinyl,

cassette, 8 -track, phonograph, whatever. I have

never liked it because half the time, they don't.

and I understand why they don't cut the crowd

noise but like oh man so with this when I was

when I was listening to this my first thought

was well at least it isn't Marky Mark because

man I don't know what it is about the touch but

that original album version that Stan did the

version that's in the movie itself That's my

version. Even some of the, like, I know Stan

himself did, like, the epic guitar mix or whatever

a couple years ago for, I think, one of the War

for Cybertron games. And that's a great mix as

well. But the original version is my favorite.

I don't dislike this version. I think this version

is cool. But it's more skippable to me than Death

of Optimus Prime on this. must be stopped, no

matter the cost. One shall stand, one shall fall.

Why throw away your life so recklessly? That's

a question you should ask yourself, Megatron.

Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. And I think that's

a terrific comparison. I think one of my takeaways

from this conversation is I need to listen to

Death of Optimus Prime more often than I do.

Because, yeah, I mean, their version of the touch

is... Certainly serviceable, it's enjoyable,

and it gets the crowd going when they play it

live. I think we talked about this back in August

when we talked about Ravage, but I am still fascinated,

endlessly puzzled that there is not a whole lot

of overlap between fans of Cybertronic Spree

and folks who participate in contemporary Transformers

fandom. Like, I think I was one of the few folks

who like, you know, between like podcasting and

and and, you know, all the other stuff I do in

contemporary Transformers. Like, I think I was

one of the only like Transformers fans that was

there. A lot of other folks at the show are just

there because they, you know, they remember Transformers

from when they were kids. or they like a good

gimmick band, like a Mac Sabbath or a GWAR or

something like that. So I think the novelty of

the terrific costumes that the bots in the Spree

have, I think that's what appeals to folks also.

But it is so weird to me. Very few Transformers

fans. So The Touch is one of those songs that's

so ubiquitous that is kind of like... Because

like you were saying, like the Marky Mark stuff

and some of the other things like, you know,

it showed up on Goldberg's and some other stuff.

And, you know, it's kind of permeated pop culture

and it's kind of synonymous with the 80s and

it's synonymous with kind of that that moment

in time. And it's synonymous with Transformers.

I'm with you, Mike. I'm a dare guy. And and I

think for for me, dare will be my song because

it was written. for the movie, like nothing against

Stan Bush. He's a terrific guy. I mean, we both

talked to him on interviews at different times,

nothing but love for Stan, but like, you know,

the, the touch was written for Cobra. So, you

know, it was like, it was going to be in a Sylvester

Stallone movie. And I think with dare specifically

bit being written by Scott Shelley and Vince

DeCola for transformers, the movie that gives

it a different level of. authenticity that i

think will always be kind of missing for the

touch for me but but with you know the cybertronic

spree version it's it's fine i like some of the

different things they do with some of the the

uh musicality and instrumentation of it you know

like it it kind of starts off a little slower

and a little more somber more referential than

the original because like in the original That

synth hits really hard those first few waves.

It's like, blah, blah, blah, blah. You got the

touch. Whereas the Cybertronics pre -version

is a little more ethereal. You know, they've

got like an echo reverb effect. And, you know,

it doesn't punch as hard, which is a choice.

And at a time when you're trying to... make a

version of an iconic song that stands out differently,

I can totally appreciate that choice. It's not

my favorite. And I would think if I had to pick

a weak point on the album, it would probably

be that. I think for Transformers 1986, Cybertronic

Spree, I think that's kind of my skip track.

Mostly because I just want to get to Hunger because

I love that song in the original, but I really...

really enjoy the Cybertronics free version. It's

a banger, as the kids used to say. Yeah, I wish

somebody on YouTube or somewhere would take...

So there was a... Somebody did a cut -up of the

movie, and there's one video out there, it's

in my favorites somewhere, where it starts out

with the thumbnail is the back of Hot Rod, so

it's right as the Sharkticon fight is starting

to happen, right as the song... I want somebody

to take that scene from the movie and put it

to this version of hunger. Cause that would be

so awesome. Oh, my gosh. Well, you know, and

you were talking about like, you know, Hot Rod

trying to, you know, get out his saw blade and

stuff. But like, you know, when that sludgy guitars

come, you know, I mean, it's it's just like full

throated metal guitar there. It's it it's so

good. And it has like a a visceral intensity

that that's different than the original. And

I think given R .C., the lead on this one, which

again, I think that's a masterstroke on Cybertronic

Spree's part to take what are hair metal ballads,

not ballads, but hair metal songs. and give them

to a female singer rather than trying to get

a male singer to try to hit some of those higher

I'm sorry, Kick -Ax. I think that's a terrific

choice. And this feels like a terrific complement

to Instruments of Destruction, and it really

showcases Arcee's vocal. in a way very similar

to i i'm sure what inspired them to cover uh

like immigrant song or uh barracuda by heart

and i think that's that's one of those things

where in doing these songs it's like wait a sec

we've got something here because that that's

kind of the similar thing whereas you know robert

plant of led zeppelin kind of has that higher

register and how do you do that you give that

to a powerhouse female vocalist And that's why

that cover of Immigrant Song is so ubiquitous.

Like, you know something is a viral hit when

it comes back around. Like, when I'm having,

like, my aunt send me their video on Facebook

saying, like, hey, you know, check this out.

You know, it's Transformers. And I'm like, yes,

thank you. I'm I'm very well aware. In fact,

I was probably one of the first ones to share

it. You probably saw it. You probably saw it

from me sharing it. But even so, I'll still take

it. I you know, something is truly viral when

it boomerangs back around like that. But like

there's a reason why they close out their shows

with hunger, because I mean, it is. I mean, it's

again, it just has a ravenous. vibe to it that

I think is really cool. And it feels like more

so than Dare to be Stupid on the original soundtrack

arrangement, I feel like Hunger is kind of like

the culmination of what the audio musical texture

of Transformers 1986 is. It feels like an appropriate

choice to close it out with. Yeah, absolutely.

As far as the actual sung songs, yes, I do agree.

It's just, like I said at the beginning of this,

I just need it in the film order. Because I listen

to it in the order that they put it in. And I

agree. It's a good track order, but every time

I listen to the soundtrack or every time I listen

to the score, I have the film running in my head.

So if I don't hear the right beat at the right

time, when I know in my head, like if I don't

hear the dare synth where it's supposed to be,

it's like, wait a minute. We'll fast forwarded

this on me. Don't do that. You know, kind of

thing, but no, I can't wait to see what they

do next. It's going to be so awesome. Whatever

it is. Uh, Like we said at the beginning of this,

Ravage, go check out Geekcast Radio episode 319

where Mike and I talked about their wholly original

album, Ravage. That's out now for the public

consumption as well. And yeah, Transformers 1986.

It's, like I said, I'm probably going to add

some of the instrumental tracks like Death of

Optimus Prime to my favorites playlist on Spotify

because it was just such a good version of that

tune. I think we're going to go to a quick ad

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right, the TF2N Podcast, episode 51. I cannot

promise you folks anything at this point, but

it is 15 years since the podcast debuted. I did

have some sort of something written down somewhere

about doing some sort of six -part series going

back over the last 15 years, even though the

podcast itself was only 24 episodes, or slightly

more than that. But the original series, when

I set out and did the podcast, it was only 24

episodes to cover. All 98 episodes plus the movie.

And there's a couple of supplementals in there

as well. Mr. Seibert, tell the fine folks all

about what you do, sir. Oh, sure. If you like

this type of legislation, check out my other

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where... Me and another guy who has a very similar

name, Michael Andrews. We talk about Transformers

Animated one episode at a time. You've caught

us square in the middle of our winter hiatus

for the holidays. So now is a good time to catch

up on all of our coverage of season one of Transformers

Animated. He is a super fan of TFA. And the gimmick

of our show is I have never watched Transformers

animated before before this project. And so you

get two perspectives. Me as a first time watcher

and him as a serial rewatcher as he struggles

to not spoil the show for me for a show that

ended 15 years ago. But we just recently finished

up season one. So those 15 or so episodes are

up. We also did a live stream recently for Michael

Andrews' birthday back at the beginning of November,

and that's available on our YouTube channel.

And you can listen to Two Mics, Two Furious pretty

much everywhere you listen to all of the fine

TFG1 podcast. As for me, I also host a... podcast

of my own called mike cyber radio and it's funny

because like mike cyber radio has kind of become

the side show to two mics too furious as opposed

to the other way around it's like wait a sec

my primary show is now the spin -off show how

did this happen because yeah i i don't know what

it is about our dynamic but folks seem to really

like uh us talking about uh transformers animated

so it's it's a lot of fun but anyway i uh i host

mike cyber radio podcast where I talk about stuff

and things. I interview bands and artists and

independent folks talking about creative endeavors.

I occasionally do movie reviews as well. I've

got an episode of forthcoming actually it's probably

up by the time this will publish about godzilla

minus one and talk about why you gotta go out

and see that in the biggest screen that you possibly

can because it rules so hard and uh i i really

really like that movie but anyway i do movie

reviews music reviews Um, and, and things of

that nature. And you can listen to Mike's hybrid

radio podcast everywhere. You listen to two mics,

two furious. And again, all of the wonderful,

uh, geek cast radio network, uh, shows as well.

Uh, you can find me on social media at Mike's

cyber radio. Uh, the spelling is S E I B E R

T. Exactly the way it sounds. I'm on Facebook,

Twitter, Instagram. Uh, none of the new stuff

though. Like, I think I have a blue sky, but

I. I haven't logged into it in months, and I'm

too old and crotchety to want to do Mastodon

or whatever the hell else is out there. I'm going

to be on the Twitter train until it costs me

money. Once Elon has his hand out saying, pay

me money to be on Twitter, that's the day I quit.

So until then, I'm just going to stay on the

sinking ship until it completely engulfs in flames

and drags us all into the cold depths of the...

Ocean. But anyway, thank you so much for having

me on. It's always fun hanging out with you.

I feel like I really dominated the conversation,

but I really appreciate you giving me the opportunity

to talk about these songs and this band that

I'm such a fan of. Cybertronix Spree is one of

my favorite bands. I've supported both of their

Kickstarters enthusiastically. I see them whenever

they come to the Pacific Northwest. I buy multiple

versions of their albums on pretty much every

platform I could get it. and and they're just

terrific bots like one of the things that make

made my heart the warmest is like uh when they

played their last uh show most recently hot rod

is up on stage i'm you know i'm like pressed

up against the the stage front row and uh hot

rod like in between i don't remember what song

they were doing but like hot rod had a break

where he wasn't playing guitar or singing and

he comes up to me with the fist bump he's like

max cyber boom fist bump It's like that that

that made my day like that. That was that was

so freaking cool. So, I mean, they're terrific

bots, really cool folks. So, yeah, I mean, I

mean, support them any way you can, because they

they are awesome. Absolutely. And hey, at least

this wasn't a four hour tour this time. Yeah,

right. There's fewer questions. Now, if there

were if there were twice as many tracks, we'd

probably be here twice as long. That's that's

true. It's a good thing we didn't do this and

ravage together because holy crap. Oh, my gosh.

Ravaging the Transformers 1986. Oh, God. That

would be crazy. Supercut. Time to edit. I love

it. I love it. All right, folks. That's going

to do it for us, TFG1 Podcast. I don't know if

I'm going to be doing more celebrating 15 years

of the show or anything like that. Thank you

for joining us. If you'd like to get in contact

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same thing, Geekcast Radio Network. You can also

check out the other pages that we have over there,

like Studio 2009, all things Transformers, all

that stuff. Next time, I don't know. I don't

know what's going to happen, what's going to,

you know, whatever. So for now, I'm TFG1 Mike

with... I'm Mike Seibert. Make good choices.

There you go. Transform and transcend, and we

will catch you next time here on the TFG1 Podcast.

Yeah, roll out. Roll out.