ToonCast Beyond
The Road to El Dorado Review

About this Episode
Beyond good, beyond evil, beyond your wildest
imagination. The legend of a lost city of gold.
And the two men brave enough to find it. I am
Miguel. And I am Tulio. And they call us Miguel
and Tulio. Seven! Your dice are loaded! I will
give you the honor of a quick and painless death.
But not with that. I'll bet we can make that.
Two pesetas says we can't. You lose. DreamWorks
Pictures invites you... Holy shit! ...to join
two friends. on an incredible journey. We'll
follow that trail. What trail? To the magnificent
city of gold. El Dorado. Thinks well, like you
mean it. They actually think we're gods. Miguel
and Tulio, the mighty and powerful gods. Hello.
Now. You're going to need my help. What makes
you think we need your help? Are you serious?
They're bound for excitement. Who's the God?
You the God. Romance and danger. I know you are
not God. You're not a God? That was good, huh?
Featuring six new songs. from Elton John and
Tim Rice. The Oscar -winning team from The Lion
King. The Road to El Dorado. Stop that! Hello
and welcome to the 53rd episode of Tooncast Beyond,
brought to you by the GeekCast Radio Network
and Audible .com. I am Warner Rios, TFJ Mike,
and today I am joined by Sketch1984. Hello, sir.
Hey. How are you? Oh, pretty good. How yourself?
Good good Say we will be traveling down the road
to El Dorado. I Don't know what the hell dream
works. Oh my god. I don't get this company sometimes
Well, they were trying real hard to beat Disney
Yeah friggin Katzenberg um i i don't mind treasure
hunt stuff i really don't but this to me is dreamworks
version of mysterious cities of gold it just
how many people got that reference Well, we did
do an episode way back. I think it was episode
40 of the podcast. That's right. You did cover
it. I think so. Yeah. I think we did. Was it
episode 40, 50? I don't remember what the hell
it was. People remind me. Yeah, it was episode
40. It was 13 episodes ago we covered the mysterious
cities of gold. Optimus Soul and I did cover
that. So, yeah. that's all this is is a dreamworks
version of that and sadly even though i didn't
care for the mysterious cities of gold i prefer
that over this these characters oh my god just
pretty basic they're basic they're boring they're
it's finding them amusing when i was a kid Yeah,
see that's the thing. It's like this movie came
out in 2000. I was 20 you were 16 yeah, I think
yeah, you're four years younger than me Yeah,
you know so but like by 2000. I was more into
stuff like Titan a you know that you know that
space adventure stuff uh... you know i wasn't
into treasure hunting i didn't actually get back
into the treasure hunt type stuff so i know it's
a base stuff but you don't like treasure stuff
so what do you think a treasure planet will find
out in the future season to cast beyond uh...
that's a disney film for sure uh... but it was
one of those that like for me treasure hunting
is like Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Yeah.
That was, you know, that was my, I know everybody's
like, oh, what about Raiders? Well, you know
what? I was born the same year that movie came
out. I didn't grow up watching Raiders. I was
old enough to understand and get Last Crusade.
And that is my favorite indie film. And... That's
your favorite independent film? No, indie film
is an Indiana Jones film. I know what you meant.
Yes. I think everybody knew what I meant, holy
crap. I don't watch those other I -N -D -I -E
films. Yeah, there's a big difference, not I
-E -Y. Oh god, this is turning out to be a train
wreck. Well, I can tell you are so enthusiastic
about this film. You know what, honestly, the
entire time we've been doing the DreamWorks thing
from episode, I think it was... 30 something
when was it it started we started DreamWorks
with Shrek 1 & 2 Episode 36 between episode 36
and now with episode 53 I'm just burnt out on
DreamWorks. We will be continuing on with with
The rest of the season 2 here and you know, we'll
cover some really really interesting films after
Road to El Dorado but I just like okay well the
only not so interesting film Wolverine sold his
soul to the toilet gods apparently in episode
56 but it's just one of those things where I
just this movie is not for me it really really
isn't the two characters I find them arrogant
Both of like usually you have that arrogant guy
and the and the guy that plays the role straight
Both of them are arrogant as all hell So just
to give you all the The rundown Rodel Dorado
2000 animated adventure musical comedy film Produced
by DreamWorks, the soundtrack features songs
by Elton John and Tim Rice. The music came from
Disney's The Lion King. Yay, Katzenberg reunited
them. Not to say that's a bad thing, the music
in the movie is great. Just the plot itself just...
So what you're saying is the music is great,
but it is wasted on this film. Yes, pretty much
so. Apparently this is inspired by Rudyard Kipling's
The Man Who Would Be King because they find the
hidden spoilers for anyone who hasn't seen this
movie that's over 10 years old. They finally
discover the hidden city of El Dorado where they
are mistaken for gods. Somebody shoot me now.
That's a pretty common trope. Know it's a pretty
common trope, but it's like I just I Try I honestly
I power through it Mike power through it. I did
and I I want my money back I want my rental money
back iTunes. I want my 317 back damn it like
I Would I would rather watch the Prince of Egypt
three times than ever watch this ever again?
And I am not a religious person whatsoever. We
covered Prince of Egypt two episodes ago and
episode 51. Three times. It sounds like you're
watching it religiously. Ha. Ha ha ha. Where's
the Rimshot app when you really need it? Thanks,
Rimshot. Exactly. See you later. It's just one
of those things where... I would rather watch
any other... I would rather watch Chicken Run
again. And I hated Chicken Run because of the
stop -motion animation that it uses. I just did
not care for this movie. At all. What about you?
What are your thoughts on Road to El Dorado?
I think it's fairly... meddling. It's not particularly
good, but I didn't find it offensively bad. Like
you said, it's got good music. Yeah, the animations
pretty okay. The story is basic your typical
Two friends go on an adventure. They end up having
a disagreement then they're friends again by
the end throw in some mysticism and nonsense
about people thinking they're gods That's the
movie they're not They're not very redeemable
characters. They're just kind of scumbags. And
Dreamworks didn't even really seem to... I mean,
okay, I'm looking at the voice cast now. It didn't
seem as if they were really going for the big...
It's not like a Shrek where you go for Eddie
Murphy and Michael Myers and Cameron Diaz. I
mean, yes, there are... big name stars in this
film, but most of them are classic. They're either
classic voice actors that we already know in
the case of Jim Cummings as Cortez or Frank Walker
as Altivio. The horse. The horse, yes, the horse.
Frank Walker is every animal ever. Edward James
Almost is the chief. I know, you got Edward James
Almost and you got Armand Desante. Rosie Perez,
Kenneth Branagh, and Kevin Klein. So, let me
get this straight. The dude from Wild Wild West
voiced a character in this. Oh man, that's a
comparison. I don't think that's the movie he
wants to be remembered for. I would rather watch
that than watch this again. Oh, me too. Man,
it's been a while since I've seen that. I need
a refresher. Just just waiting until it cut TNT
and TV certain times of the year TNT TBS all
those Turner broadcast network things they run
Various movies and that's one of them over and
over and over and over again I think I've seen
between USA and I know USA is not TNT. It's universal
but between USA TNT and TBS I think I've seen
GI Joe rise of Cobra like 50 friggin time since
it's been out The interesting thing here is that
they had friggin songwriter composer To be the
narrator Elton John is I don't I think they put
all the money into Elton John. I really think
so as well. You know, it's kind of like, hey,
is Will Smith going to come back for Bad Boys
3? No, we can't afford him at this point. You
know, I think that's what the case is here where
they put all the money into Elton. Complained
about this podcast before about how we don't
go over enough of the plot. Well, I don't want
to directly read from Wikipedia to be accused
of that trope of a podcast Try to remember it
the best as you can I know I know I just finished
watching this a day before we record this episode
and I still I It's not memorable. I did isn't
Like I can remember when um Kale in Titan AI
I can remember when he you know jumps line in
space to cut in line for the food you know I
can remember that I can remember Tone Locke telling
him you know you have a destiny and blah blah
blah blah blah you know I can remember almost
every single scene from Titan AI which is a movie
that came out the same year this did, and I can't
remember shit about this movie, and I just watched
it literally 24 hours ago from when we recorded
this. I don't know. If there are people out there
that like this movie, that's all well and good,
and that's fine. If you do like it, comment on
the website, comment on iTunes or whatever you
want to do, and let me know what I'm missing
here, because this, to me... is a 21st century
setback in the 16th century piss -poor version
of Mysterious Cities of Gold. And as everyone
knows, from listening to episode 40 of the show,
I didn't care for Mysterious Cities of Gold,
but over that, over this, Mysterious Cities of
Gold is, well, golden. Over this movie. It just...
And I think the other thing I don't like about
this one is that it's... It always frustrates
me when you're you're supposed to be set in a
certain time period and Yet you make a reference
to something that has nothing to do with it like
I Get it you need to modernize stuff, but if
you're doing a period piece in the year 2000
You don't make reference to anything that we
have nowadays And I believe they did that several
times in this movie where they made certain jokes
About certain stuff that wasn't even around back
in the 16th friggin century My head hurts just
as some movies are guilty of that Yeah, pretty
much For the production notes the creation of
the road to El Dorado was a challenge for the
studio Because dreamworks animation had devoted
most of its creative efforts to his previous
animated film the prince of Egypt Well, no, so
that's where the budget went yeah exactly hey
at least it went to something good the film earned
just over 12 million dollars an opening weekend
and it was at number two behind Aaron Brockovich
Aaron Brockovich's third weekend wow in total
76 million dollars, just north of 76 million
dollars is what this movie made back. How much
did it make to produce? It doesn't say. I'd have
to look it up again. It's just one of those things
where... Probably didn't make back its budget.
I don't know. It's just one of those things where...
Do you have anything else you want to say about
the plot or the characterizations or anything
of it? Yeah, I As much as both of the characters
were scumbags You know, you could see that they
had a little good in them and I'd liked their
interaction with each other because they were
they were like brothers and They gave each other
a hard time at times, but they were you know
thick as thieves as the term goes It's You know
One of them's conflicted about Rising to the
challenge of being these gods to these people
and the other guys just like I don't know This
is a bad idea. Let's not do this And these conflicting
opinions don't really differentiate them that
much so as you said they're both very prideful
Just kind of scummy guys And they somewhat redeem
themselves at the end by saving people, but...
It's not the most positive story. No, not at
all. And just to prove my point of how bad this
movie is, you asked me about the budget. Budget
was 95 million. and it made back seven just north
of 76 so it didn't even make its money back it
didn't even it's 20 close to 25 million under
making its money back i normally don't pay attention
to critical reception i honestly don't um but
in this case i'm pretty happy with where it sits
on rotten tomatoes has a 49 percent rotten rating
out of 101 reviews at rotten tomatoes With 49
positive reviews making this the first DreamWorks
animated film to earn a rotten rating, the consensus
states, predictable story, thin characters, made
the movie flat. And honestly, I felt - Really
only good for a couple of laughs. Yeah, and the
laughs that they put in are jokes only people,
you know, you know what I mean? I'm gonna tell
you the best line in this movie. You fight like
my sister. I fought your sister. That's a compliment
That's it now. You don't need to see the movie
All right, so we are the IGN replacement crew
We've gone through its GCRN and redone our rating
scale instead of one to four. We do zero to five
stars Zero is it's unreadable uh... one is terrible
it there's a whole bunch of all i'll put the
link in the post so people can see the ratings
but uh... how many stars do you give this i think
i could give it a one yeah uh... probably right
there with you uh... that's not painfully terrible
to me so i wouldn't leave it a zero Yeah, the
only reason why for me that it gets a one, maybe
a one and a half, is because of the fact of the
music. The music was great. That is a good point.
If I factor in the music, I might have to give
it a two. Yeah, the music was great. Yeah, I'll
give it two stars as well, just for the music.
The rest of the movie, honestly. We are haggling
this rating. Yeah, I know. But it's one of those
things where you can't, like, it's Elton friggin'
John. I mean, no matter what, no matter how bad
the product turns out as far as the film goes,
he's still gonna put his best foot forward as
far as the music goes, and the music is pretty
much the only saving grace for this film. So
we are going to take a quick break and we'll
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Yes, the films on DVD. We already talked about
the critical reception the soundtrack Probably
the only thing worth buying Yes, it has a duet
between Randy Newman and Elton John Yeah, that's
damn good Apparently they had planned a sequel
DreamWorks really had plans to make more films
about Tulio and Miguel along with Chell and Altivio
searching for other legends, but due to the poor
box office performance, the series was scrapped.
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