ToonCast Beyond
The Get Along Gang Review

About this Episode
Hey, this is Greg Berger and you are listening
to the Geekcast Radio Network. and light it with
the spirit. The bingo that breaks me doesn't
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unless the spirit burns. Welcome to the 52nd
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host, TFC, Mike, and today I'm joined once again
by Optimus Solo. Hello. Can't we all just get
along? Today we're going to be jumping back into
the DeLorean for another Tooncast Beyond DeLorean
time episode with our heading set for 1985, when
we talk about the Get Along Gang. Yay! No? Okay
then. this is pretty much going to be a kevin
episode because i never saw the get along gang
when i was a kid that's a travesty against all
humanity and when i watched it as a 33 year old
adult it made my teeth rot like eating too much
sugar you're old oh shut up mr 32 yes you are
You will be in about 20 days by year, I'll be
31 By the time November December roll around
I start saying that I'm the next year older because
my birthday comes up in February So it's like
if I get in the mindset now That I'm going to
be 33 so I just tell people I'm 33 Random off
-topic fact when I had my really really weird
bus stop incident a couple weeks ago Guy offered
me, you know wine and weed and I'm like no not
my thing. He's like, oh, how old are you? 33
I just said it to me. I knew it wasn't true,
but I was you know, I'm what? three months off
you know what i mean so it's like he's like oh
well i would have expected you to be i would
have thought you were 23 and i'm like okay thanks
i guess and this is me as i am right now with
my hair halfway off my head and my beard jutting
out like merlin you expect someone that looks
like that to be 23 years old give me a break
i expect someone that looks like that to live
in the world of the lord of the rings No. Merlin
and Arthurian is more my speed. Fuck Lord of
the Rings. We should have Hobbit Month. Anyway.
Anyways, we are here to talk about the Get Along
Gang. As I said, this is pretty much going to
be a Kevin episode, so take away with the history
lesson. I can't even hear the phrase Get Along
Gang without the theme song going in my head.
Get Along Gang. Anyway. History lesson. The Get
Along Gang. Originally characters created in
1983 by American greetings toy design and licensing
division That's right those characters from Cleveland
now American greetings properties for a series
of greeting cards That's how I first saw them
and then on Christmas ornaments the get along
gang our group of 12 and later 14 pre -adolescent
anthropomorphic I can almost never say that.
Adolescent anthropomorphic animal characters
that lived in the fictional town of Green Meadow
who form a club that meets in an abandoned caboose
and who have various adventures whose upbeat
stories intended to show the importance of teamwork
and friendship and obviously getting along. The
success of the greeting card line led to a Saturday
morning television series which aired on CBS
for 13 episodes in 1984. 1985 season. Each of
the characters had obvious faults, which they
learned to overcome with the aid of their friends,
and we'll get into those characters here in a
little bit. But my general memories here, I remember
I must have been like... Three or four or something
like that when I got a Christmas ornament We
usually got one like every year or so and I got
one that had to get along gang on it I also remember
seeing actually seeing some of the greeting cards
and thought that they looked pretty cool. I think
I had a shirt Had to get along gang on them.
So then when they were finally Released into
a TV series along that same time period that
was cool to see them So I definitely remember
them. I remember the theme song. I remember all
the characters I was telling you earlier About
me being a little kid and we used to always have
my sister and I always had like little tape recorders
and Somehow we would either tape record ourselves
or I don't know if I ever got video recorded
or not But somewhere in our family collection
There is a tape of me singing a song that these
guys did because they also released some audio
cassettes and we're gonna give people a listen
to that later on but uh so i don't know this
just has a special place in my nostalgic heart
um and i just liked this show as a kid it was
just one of those shows that was kind of like
off the beaten path it wasn't super popular it's
not like the smurfs or care bears or whatever
but i loved them even more maybe because of their
not being i guess what i would call mainstream
um you know it was like There was certain cartoons
that I watched back in the day that not all my
friends were watching. That included stuff like
The Mysterious Cities of Gold, included stuff
like Get Along Gang, The Adventures of Little
Koala, a few other early Nickelodeon shows before
people actually got into Nickelodeon, like The
World of David and the Gnome and some stuff like
that. So this just had kind of like a special
spot for me and I really enjoyed the series even
though it was very short -lived. And you have
no memory of it. I Say five transformers, you
know mask jam This for me I saw this right before
a lot of that stuff started showing on the air
and right as Transformers was just starting because
a lot of those shows that you mentioned actually
weren't airing at this exact time that this one
was airing uh... transformers was airing it in
eighty five no this started this is basically
eighty four this is the fall of eighty four uh...
uh... so some of those were getting just started
out and there needed that exact season or someone
came in like the year after two years after so
this is kind of like one of my last uh... you
know kind of like really kitty shows before i
got transitioned into some of those action shows
Between 83 and 87 I guess I was either action
cartoons or like from my quote -unquote learning
and kitty stuff it was Sesame Street It was not
this this was right along. I just probably you
know I had been exposed since I had a sister
that was a couple years older This was a long
it seems like it was along that same time that
I would have been watching You know like Care
Bear rainbow bright star very short cake my little
pony with my sister You know all those shows
get along gang came along is kind of like in
that vein right before I really Transitioned
into the Transformers GI Joe Era the only action
show I probably was watching at the same time
of this was maybe in the first couple episodes
of Transformers And he man or about the only
shows, you know action wise that I was into at
the time I got into get along gang Interesting
Yep, just good stuff. It was it was a kid show
that wasn't I know you think it was all sugary
and too sweet and all that stuff All right. Well,
let me defend that just just a little bit here
It's me now looking at it. Yeah, but I mean at
the time there were shows that were like that
Right that you even as a kid were almost too
sugary and too sweet Care Bears was right on
that tightrope of that You know there was there
were certain shows that were definitely all the
way over there that even as a kid, you're like,
ah, this is too goody -two -shoes. And this one
to me had a little more edge. I mean, edge is
a strong word, but. It does have a bit of an
edge because it does, from the episodes that
I did watch, I only watched four episodes. I
can only find four episodes, four full episodes
on YouTube. If there are more, that's all well
and good, but after watching those four episodes,
I will never watch the show again. For me, it
was not so much the kiddie children's cartoon
where you dealt with kid issues, like dealing
with parents or something. This was one of those
first ones for me where it was more about a group
of friends setting. you could relate to it as
you were going off maybe into your first couple
years of schooling whether it be kindergarten,
first grade or whatever where there was groups
and there was people outside of your group and
there was the bullies or the clicks starting
to form even at a young age and this you could
kind of relate to that and then obviously the
titles get along gang and it's all about getting
along and we'll get in more into that later.
To me it just had a different feel than some
of the other shows that I was used to Being four
kids this kind of was like four kids But it was
that group of friends setting where you had to
deal with you know outsiders and you had to deal
with issues of Just getting along with everybody
in your group, so I don't know Yeah, no, and
I mean I understand that but again. I'm not I
Don't have the nostalgia you do for this So that's
why I'm probably looking at it in a more analytical
sense and an adult sense. When I, you know, I
shut up when I didn't watch it that, you know,
two episodes were way too sugary and nice and
sweet for me. The other two were slightly darker
and I liked a little bit of the darker ones.
I really, I appreciated that. But like between
the theme song and between the beginning of one
of the episodes, it was like My god, my teeth
are gonna fall out because I feel like I've ate
too much candy struck him by lightning for saying
anything negative about that theme song just
The world will disagree with you on that one
And that's fine there, you know, the the world
has their opinions, but you know, oh Goodness,
let's get into some of the characters All righty
then, take it away. All right, well each of the
characters had some faults, and like I kinda
said in the intro, there was mainly 12 characters,
even though they later added two, but there was
mainly just six that had the major speaking roles
in the cartoon. Montgomery Moose, he's the group's
leader, and his fault, tragic fault, was that
he was clumsy. You had Wilma Lamb, who was very
vain and self -centered. You had Dottie Dog,
who could be careless. The other female was Portia
Porcupine, who had temper tantrums. And then
the other guys were Zipper Cat, who could be
overbearing, and Bingo Beaver, who could be greedy
and tended to get himself into trouble with his
bedding and stuff like that. And then there was
the two kind of bad characters of the show, which
were Catchem Crocodile, the main big bully, Outsider,
and then his sidekick, Leland Lizard. And that
was, you know... some adult characters, Officer
Growler, Breaker Turtle, Mr. Hoofnagle, and some
other people like that that would come and go.
But those are your main six members of the Get
Along gang and then two outsiders. As far as
voice acting goes, we have an interesting mix
here. As most 80s shows, Scott Menville found
a place playing one of the kid roles. You know,
he shows up everywhere. The rest of them are
pretty interesting. You have Bettina Bush doing
Doddy Dog, who most people know as Rainbow Brite,
or I think Gloria from the Madagascar series
recently. Sparky Marcus played the leader Montgomery
Moose, and he was quite prevalent in 80s shows.
He did Richie Rich in 1980, did one of the human
characters in Challenge of the Gobots. Yes, I
got a Gobot reference in there. Then you had
Robbie Lee as Zipper Cat, Georgie Irene as Wilma
Lamb, a very popular voice actress these days,
Sherry Lynn in an early role as Portia Porcupine.
She does a lot of anime. Timothy Gibbs in Catch
'em Crocodile. That's his, I believe, one of
his only voice roles. And how about a young Nicky
Catt as Leland Lizard? Nicky who? Catt. K -A
-T -T. Who most people will know from I'm trying
to think the capture that he was on Tips no,
no, no, no, no, no, we're much more recently
My PD blue no he was in Shoot give me one second
here. He was in long order. That was just a spit
role What else was he in Boston Public? Oh, he
was Harry Senate on Boston Public. Oh, okay.
I know who that guy is. Yeah, that's not a I
know I was thinking a cop show because I remember
seeing him on Law and Order. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I know that guy. He's all very cool. OK,
cool. Yeah, so he was in there as one of those
very early role for him in his acting career.
And then, of course, you had Don Messick, Frank
Welker, and a few other people doing some of
the adult roles. So it was kind of an interesting
mixture of some very young talent, some talent
that was very well established, some interesting
voices that were in the mix. As far as like favorite
characters I had a I liked zipper cat Just because
he was cool. He was like the athletic one, but
I really just loved Montgomery moose and I'm
not a moose person I don't really like mooses
that mooses mooses that much. It's it's mooses.
Okay, but something about Montgomery moose I
just had a soft spot for I mean he was kind of
the leader, but he was like an unopposing leader
like a He wasn't like the big bad leader. He
was like the leader because they chose him as
their basic leader. It wasn't because he was
arrogant or cocky or anything like that. All
right, let me ask you a question. You're on a
desert island. You can only have one moose as
your best friend. Do you pick Montgomery or Bullwinkle?
Montgomery. Ah, you fuck. Like any of the female
characters in this I did not like dotty dog.
I did not like woman lamb I did not like portrait
porcupine to me They were all very much like
miss piggy in a way and just not female characters.
Yeah behind Leland lizard was a cool kind of
innocent sidekick to the bully And the guy characters
were all right in this the animation was cool
But there was some changes that went along with
that which we'll get into but overall You know,
none of the characters stand out as iconic characters,
but they were cool in their own right. Cool,
cool. So shall we delve into the behind -the
-scenes stuff then? Oh, why not? Oh, and I forgot
to mention the two characters that would come
in later would be Hocus Hair and Pocus Possum.
I don't remember them at all. So I don't know
what they actually showed up in if they ever
showed up in the series Wait, wait, wait a second.
This this show had two characters Hocus hair
and Pocus possum Hocus Pocus really? Seriously
members that didn't have speaking roles for the
most part except for very rarely was breaker
turtle like I mentioned Rock -o -rabbit Rudyard
lion floor. Forget me not Fox Bernice bear and
lolly squirrel I don't remember any of them except
for breaker, right? so But yeah behind -the -scenes
stuff. It's interesting. This is kind of like
it has a lot of Things and similar to I guess
Care Bears would have been the other one that
went from nelvana to Deke I Think it's Care Bears
that did that transition Nelvana actually produced
a pilot episode that was broadcast on the Nickelodeon
cable network in April of 84. So in the spring
of 84. And it dealt with the 12 members of the
gang trying to win a scavenger hunt and catch
them kind of causing problems and whatnot. And
it had a completely different cast than the later
series would. The pilot aired in syndication
nationwide during the summer of 84. There was
a different theme song, which we'll get into
later, but for some reason between the pilot
episode and the series premiere, the production
went from Novana to Deke Entertainment. And they
were the ones that did the 13 half -hour episodes
and they had a whole new cast. Didn't Novana
go out of business at some point though? Isn't
that why Deke took a lot of their... Catalog
over seem like they that something about that
did happen I don't think they went out of business
that early in the 80s, but I'd have to look it
up but The original cast had a lot of ties to
some of the other stuff We've talked about before
like cops the cartoon and some of those other
things I had Dan Hennessey and like I said a
whole different cast Jim Henshaw Wayne Robson
and and just a whole different cast. So that's
kind of interesting that You know, it has that
kind of two different and some people will say
that the animation that they like the animation
and the pilot better. They like the look better.
They like the voice acting better. I recently
got a hold of someone on YouTube who has a copy
of the pilot episode on videotape or some form
and I convinced him to upload it to YouTube.
So that should be happening any day now. So hopefully
if people want to see what the pilot look like,
they'll be able to shortly. Cool. And then I
can capture all their voices for BehindTheVoiceHackers
.com. So that's kind of the behind the scenes
here, just the changeover from Nelvana to Diek.
Interesting. All right. So tell us about the
actual show, I guess, as far as, like, what was
the point outside of everybody gets along and
our friends? It wasn't about necessarily the
point wasn't that they would just get along.
The point was you basically have this gang. You
know, like any kid kind of dreams of or sometimes
has, you have this gang of friends. You know,
in this case, six friends. You have your clubhouse,
which in this case was a caboose, that you get
to hang out. You know, so that takes you away
from the parents, away from the adults, and you're
basically just kids having fun after school or
whatever. And it was just kind of the stuff that
they would get into as they were hanging out
like any kids would with their friends. You know,
whether it be a contest they entered, whether
it be, you know, just different stuff that they
would be doing. and at some point obviously something
would come up which would set one of them as
an outsider or would cause some type of rift
and you know the moral of the episode at the
end would be them coming back together and all
getting along so it was kind of like a lot of
shows back then where you know you have a happy
-go -lucky group of friends something happens
to break that up and by the end of the episode
you come all together again And a lot of times
Catchem Crocodile or Leland would have something
to do with what was causing them problems or
it would be one of their kind of weaknesses.
Like Bingo Beaver being greedy, he might have
bet something. I remember watching an episode
where he was involved in a bet where he lost
the clubhouse from Crocodile. So then it was
them trying to... Get their clubhouse back and
getting along with each other and catch him crocodile
would always be the one that would refuse to
get along with them Would you say that catch
him is the main villain of the show? Yeah, he's
the main villain I mean, he's not so much of
a villain as like a guy that just doesn't know
how to get along with the rest of the group and
refuses to You know to let his pride or his ego
down Enough to to be friends. He doesn't want
to show that weakness or whatever right He wants
to take over their clubhouse and he just wants
to be the one that's liked the most Cool so that's
the main gist of the story. I mean there's only
13 episodes so it can't get too complex here
Yeah, that's true Alright, so what is so special
about this music other than the fact that it's
laced with you know sugar, okay? Well first of
all there's two different musical deals here
Okay, the original pilot done by Novana Had a
theme song which was interestingly enough written
and performed by John Benson Sebastian for those
of you that you now know that I have to put a
30 second clip of summer in the city in this
episode right when this episode gets uploaded
to YouTube I can actually hear this theme song
for the first time probably ever Okay, and then
you know we could Yeah, I'll get that but I want
to hear what it is like because he is best known
as a founder of the love and spoonful He also
interestingly enough wrote The song and sang
the song to the theme song for welcome back hotter.
Oh Cool come back. He that's him And not only
he did he do that. He also composed and performed
Care Bear countdown The theme song for the care
of no bad nirvana's version of the Care Bears
TV series. It's that was him Yeah along with
a bunch of stuff for the Care Bears movie trilogy
So he had done all that and then he did the original
theme song for get along gang now. None of that
was kept when deep took over right, so then the
music was done by Yeah, our friends. I'm Saban
and Shooky Levi. Yes So they're the ones responsible
for the theme song that I know Which I wouldn't
say it's like one of the ten best theme songs
of the 80s But it is an honorable mention because
it is a very catchy theme song Just cool music
cool lyrics very catchy and if someone if you're
a fan of theme songs cartoon theme songs or retro
theme songs and you haven't heard this when you
need to take a listen because it's pretty cool
no matter what mike says yeah and you heard it
at the beginning of this episode so just go back
and listen to it again and it'll be stuck in
your head like a really really bad mind it's
good throughout the series though too they do
a lot of feed variations on that uh... usually
always music going on in the background so it's
never really like there's never dull like boring
lulls in the action or anything because you always
have music going on Very musical show. Like I
said, they had audio cassettes with different
themes and different songs that characters were
singing and stuff. It was very cool. Very musical
show. Very awesome. And what about today? What
is the legacy of Get Along Gang? Well, first
of all, just the reception back then, a lot of
people gave it some good reviews, especially
the pilot and with John Sebastian's ties to it.
Like most 80s stuff, it was the product of the
television watch groups, which demanded that
positive values be emphasized and what not. But
some people, critics will say that when you do
that and when all the 80s shows promoted teamwork
and cooperation and stuff like that, some people
say that that kind of persuades people against
being their own individuals, which a very prominent
person in the cartoon world, Mark Evanier, had
an article in 1997 in which he basically kind
of talked a little bit about the Get Along Gang.
I'm going to read this because it's kind of an
interesting thing. that gives a little bit of
insight into what was going on in the 80s and
he said television watch groups all seek to make
kid vid more enriching and redeeming at least
by their definitions and at the time they had
enough clout to cause the networks to yield consultants
were brought in and we the folks who were writing
cartoons were ordered to include certain pro
-social morals in our shows at the time the dominant
pro -social moral was as follows the group is
always right the complainer or outsider is always
wrong This was the message of way too many 80s
cartoon shows. If all your friends want to get
pizza and you want a burger, you should bow to
the will of the majority and go get pizza with
them. There was even a show for one season on
CBS called The Get Along Gang, which was dedicated
unbashedly to this principle. Each week, whichever
member of the gang didn't get along with the
others learned the error of his or her ways.
I don't believe you should always go along with
a group. What about thinking for yourself? What
about developing your own personality and viewpoint?
What about doing things because you decide they're
the right thing to do, not because the majority
ruled and you got out voted? Even though that
was kind of the way that things were done at
the time, apparently some people have problems
with that. Any comment on that? No, I fully believe
in the individual as far as... the whole point
of going along with the group or or you know
that whole statement of you know if the if one
person didn't get along with the group or didn't
agree with the group and they would learn their
error the error of their ways because they didn't
agree with somebody that's essentially peer pressure
is what that is yeah I mean I don't think it
was that extra no I know but that's that's the
way I'm viewing it now you see I mean I don't
think kids were getting that message completely
right yeah I think they were more so getting
getting know how to get along with people if
they do There was other merchandise. Like I said,
I had Christmas ornaments. There was greeting
cards that came before this there were stuffed
toys and action figures for a while There was
a series of books Comic books and like I said,
there was also audio tapes So you you had a lot
of options there and I didn't know about this
until doing the research for the show But there
was also an attempt at a revival so to say The
greeting card and toy line basically ended in
1987 and the books kept on going for a little
while but in 2004 apparently A licensing and
marketing agency announced the addition of the
Get Along Gang to its properties, and plans called
for the availability of merchandise such as clothing,
toys, games, and home decor, but the relaunch
never materialized. And then in 2005, American
Greetings, the original company there, started
plans for an official relaunch of the franchise,
which was going to feature five new characters,
and accompanied by an older version of Portia
Porcupine who was in the original one. There
was even a CGI pilot in development. An unfinished
version of this pilot has been posted online.
However, for unknown reasons, the planned revival
was shelved in late 2007 and American Greetings
refused to approve the original DVD release of
the series for some reason at the same time.
So I'm not sure what happened there. They seemed
like they were all ready to go and then they
cancelled everything and even blocked the original
series being released on DVD. So I'm not really
sure why they did that. So yeah, I'm on 2011
Mill Creek entertainment though did release the
best of the get -along gang which was a one -disc
set featuring 10 of the 13 half -hour episodes
so 20 of the 26 stories and the episode can't
get along and Schools out are included on a bonus
feature on Mill Creek's DVD of Heathcliff season
1 volume 1 So there are ways to see these on
DVD just not the entire series That always makes
me mad doesn't matter what show it is, you know,
even though I'm not a fan of this show It should
still be on DVD and American Greetings Should
have given a reason why they wouldn't approve.
I don't know what happened Why they won't all
of a sudden pulled the plug on everything That
makes no damn sense This is the type of show
that could be redone in a new format to fit a
certain age group I'm not saying I need to see
it again in a new version, right? But at least
it could have been released on DVD with some
of their other stuff Even if it was a best of
you know, right because this show essentially
if you look at children's programming today would
fit in with like Dora Look like an updated version
of this would fit in with like Dora the Explorer
blues clues It would fit in with Mickey Mouse
Clubhouse. It's a lot like Franklin and Friends
Yeah, it would fit in with a lot of that kind
of stuff Clifford. Oh, yeah curious stuff. Yeah
All right, so I think we're gonna take a break
the first thing you're gonna hear is Theme song
what theme song are they hearing one of the it's
from one of their audio cassette tapes. It's
Technically, I guess, supposed to be coming from
Dottie Dogg, Bettina Bush's perspective, as she's
singing a song about her love interest there,
or the guy she liked the most out of the group,
which was Montgomery Moose. And this is the one
that I was singing on some cassette tape somewhere
in our family archive, somewhere. And I just
loved this song as a kid. I was looking for it
for the better part of the last decade. Trying
to confirm because I had it in my head I could
still sing it in my and I but I could not find
it anywhere online until I finally Found it on
YouTube so I decided to to send it to Mike to
put in this episode So it's dotty dog singing
about Montgomery moose Now that's why I love
you Montgomery When I forget how to smile We
talk for a while And that's why I love you Montgomery
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you. Final thoughts on get along sir. I just
like get along gang to me. That's one of the
better Kind of preschool slash kindergarten first
grade type cartoons of the 80s Which I think
the 80s did a lot better than recent generations
have done Notwithstanding like the last five
or six years, which has gotten a lot better But
for a long time it was shit like Barney And blues
clues and stuff like that, which I just have
no Nothing nice to say I mean you just rattled
off a bunch of shows that are on nowadays that
make it a lot better Mickey Mouse Clubhouse curious
George Clifford and stuff like that so it's getting
back to being cool, but the 80s was a good time
to be a Kindergarten kid of all ages essentially
greater or whatever and this was just one of
your options to watch for a season so it was
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