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Kung Fu Panda Franchise Review

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Hello and welcome to episode 44 of Tooncast Beyond,
brought to you by the GeekCast, Radio Network,
and Audible .com. I'm your host here, Jonah Mike,
and joining me is JT. Hello. How you doing? Uh,
I'll be doing better after this episode. Oh my
god. Today we're going to be learning how to
be kung -fu fighting pandas. Oh my god. I already
looked the part Oh, it's not gonna be that bad
Mike God So really quickly, what have you been
up to? work and Getting back you're back and
painting your nails and I'm I was painting a
patio for the listeners Okay, well not for the
listeners know now just work working on some
of my writing and Still trying to figure out
if and when I can get anybody to come on another
episode of the authentic geek podcast I can actually
get that going and not take a year off like the
lunchroom Everyone has their reasons. Yeah, and
For me we a couple weeks ago. We finished Batman
week. Oh my god. Was that a nightmare that that
nearly killed? No, dude that when we we did that
all things Batman when I stood up afterwards
It was like rusty drawbridge just ow ow ow yeah,
yeah So there's that and yeah, so we're gonna
be talking about continuing on in the season
and dream works here in to cast me I want to
be talking about Kung Fu Panda, the franchise,
we're going to talk about each individual film
as well, but we're going to talk about it in
a franchise discussion, kind of like what we
did a couple weeks ago with the Madagascar films.
I watched these back and so far I'm not a fan.
But to set the stage for Kung Fu Panda 1, the
2008 American Computer animated it. Action comedy
film produced by DreamWorks Animation and distributed
by Paramount Pictures. It was directed by John
Wayne Stevenson and Mark Osborne produced by
Melissa Cobb and stars the voices of Jack Black
along with Dustin Hoffman, Jackie Chan, Angelina
Jolie, Ian McShane, Seth Rogen, Lucy Liu, David
Cross, Randall Duck Kim. James Hong and many
others. The idea for the film was conceived by
Michael LaChance, a DreamWorks animation executive.
The film was originally intended to be a parody,
but director Stevenson decided instead to shoot
it as an action comedy. Oh boy. It premiered
in the United States on June 6, 2008 and has
since received very favorable reviews from critics
in most of the movie -going public. There's something
wrong with the critics in most of the movie -going
public. Apparently, including the Chinese audiences
like this who are impressed with the film's faithfulness
to their culture. The film currently garners
a 88 % certified fresh approval rating from review
agritator Rotten Tomatoes. Kung Fu Panda opened
in 4 ,114 theaters grossing $20 .3 million on
its opening day. The total will be told later.
Alright, so Kung Fu Panda, did you see this in
theaters? Are you someone who goes to theaters
for animation? Yeah, I go to the movies all the
time, but this one, when I first saw the trailer,
I was intrigued. I'm not a huge, huge fan of
DreamWorks, but a lot of the stuff they're done,
it's a bit of all right. Not that doesn't that's
not just a Shrek films, you know, even the Madagascar
stuff like that. It's okay, you know, I've enjoyed
it and I'm somewhat like you going into this
first movie. I was like, it's Jack Black and
he's gonna be doing his wacky, you know, Jack
Black thing and you know, and I know he spoke
off air. It's show how in 3d and I Was pleasantly
so I wasn't expecting to like this film going
into it But I was very surprised how much I ended
up loving the film afterwards you know and More
so and it's honestly a surprise like a lot of
things the voice cast was awesome. Jack Black,
you know They the script played to his whole,
you know hyper Activity, but you know, they melded
that pretty well with the whole hero's journey
story You know, it's it's um, you've seen it
a dozen movies before but it worked and it was
made for the kids But there's enough incorporated
into the movie Although like the script and the
animation everything that there's a lot for adults
to especially You know someone like myself who's
watched a lot of you know Kung Fu movies and
you know martial arts stuff like that So it's
I thought it was a really good film, you know,
it's not perfect, but it was a really good film
Yeah, I Well initially I ignored it Outside of
maybe you know a very small role he had in Oh
God, what's that Bruce Willis movie? The Jackal
yeah outside of a small techie role in enemy
of the state I have really not been a fan of
Jack Black. I think, and it's sad of me to say
this, I know, I think the only movie I kind of
liked him in was... Oh, it's at one with him
and Kate Winslet. Oh, God. Where Kate Winslet
and Cameron Diaz switch houses. Oh, God. What
the hell's the name of that damn movie? I don't
watch chick flicks, Mike, so I couldn't tell
you. But anyway, I'm not really a fan of his,
just like I'm not a fan of Steve Carell, even
though I do enjoy Despicable Me. Just like I'm
not a fan of Will Ferrell, even though I did
like Megamind, which will be coming up in the
podcast in a few episodes. So initially, I was
like, eh, I'll see it when I see it. I don't
care. DreamWorks, since the Shrek films are over,
So far nothing to this point of what we're reviewing
here in the podcast episode 44 Outside of the
Shrek films. Nothing is really like grabbed me
and said oh my god. This is amazing I have to
watch this multiple times. Yeah, it just it just
hasn't So getting into the getting into the voice
cast for the first film as you said you got Jack
Black as Poe The Panda. You also have Dustin
Hoffman, Angelina Jolie, Ian McShane, Jackie
Chan as the monkey. Oh god, I remember that.
Seth Rogen as the mantis, Lucy Liu as the viper,
David Cross as the crane, Randall Duck Kim as
the oogway. Master oogway. Yeah, yeah, master
oogway. James Hong as Mr. Ping. and a bunch of
other p - oh my god rest in peace but commander
vikere is michael clark duncan i know that's
uh completely forgot about that yeah he did a
little bit of voice work before his untimely
passing you know so we miss you man i just don't
that i i think that's another thing that took
me out of the voice cast is that um uh no man
is a gang boss give me a break Yeah. Overall,
the voice cast is good for what the film is.
I like it. It's all right. It's just it's the
film that I have the issue with, not necessarily
who's voicing the characters. Well, yeah. I mean,
it's again, you know, Michael Clarke Duncan,
it's pretty much he's playing, you know, a prison
guard rhino, which is kind of fun. The one the
one voice like I always recognize his voice.
was James Hong as Mr. Ping, who I always, as
soon as I hear his voice, the first movie I think
of in my head is Big Trouble in Little China,
where he played the villainous Lo Pan. You know,
you got guys like, you know, David Cross, Lucy
Liu, they did it all right. I love the fact,
you know, the animals that some of the voice
actors got were kind of... I guess kind of played
words, you know their personalities or their
voices like, you know Jackie Chan is the monkey
and he's doing all like the super quick, you
know in and out and Everything and you know,
Lucie Lou's kind of slinky and whatnot. So she
does Viper I mean the only and I'm not saying
it's miscast or anything like I I'm a fan of
Seth Rogen I don't think he's like the greatest
thing ever, but I enjoy a lot of his stuff. I
Enjoyed his mantis, you know, it's more so The
ones that I was really pleasantly surprised by
was like I said earlier, you know, I love Jack
Black as Poe because his kind of wacky Self,
you know kind of worked with this, you know mountain
of blubber who becomes this awesome kung -fu
fighter and But the two I love the most in the
voice cast was, you know Dustin Hoffman as Master
Shifu which If you look it up, Shifu is actually
getting its Cantonese or Mandarin for teacher
or mentor, which was a cool play on words. And
freaking Al Sweerigan from Deadwood is Tai Lung,
Ian McShane. And I love the way he played him.
He's really kind of vicious, but he's got a sense
of humor, and he's kind of sarcastic. That whole
scene when we get into the plot where he's fighting
the Furious Five on the rope bridge. Yeah, it's
kind of lying there and like talking smack, you
know, so I mean you look down further on the
voiceless You got Jack Black's partner from tenacious
decal glad how Kyle cast has got a bit part in
here Which is kind of cool. So I mean overall
it's a pretty solid cast I think Yeah, it is
a solid cast as I said, you know, it's that that's
not my issue. My issue is just the overall you
know animal hero plot story I mean how many times
have we seen this before and you know I guess
I I I understand it's it's Hollywood things get
recycled more than actual recycling gets done
in the world you know but it's just one of those
things where this movie just didn't just didn't
appeal to me all that well yeah I mean it's not
for everybody but like I said it's for kids and
adults so yeah You know, I think it's a great
popcorn time waster kind of movie like I'm a
fan and I'll go if it's on TV. I'll probably
stop and watch it. You know, I've got the DVD
maybe once or twice a year I'll probably pop
it in and watch it because I really do love this
movie You know, like I said going in I wasn't
very hopeful but coming out I was like damn so
You want to just break down the plot of the first
film really quickly for those that don't know
or haven't seen it or have been living under
a rock for the last four years. Yeah, so there's
not even a spoiler warning at this point, folks,
because if you haven't seen it by now, tough
cookies. Yeah, Jeff said so yeah the plot of
the first movie centers around this big bumbling
panda named Poe Who's a kung -fu nerd? Basically,
he idolizes the furious five which is tigerous
monkey mantis viper and crane he dreams his whole
life of being a kung -fu master and Through a
whole lot of wacky hijinks. He becomes Kung Fu
master himself in form. He's the prophesied dragon
warrior who's going to save the Valley of Peace
from the evil leopard Tai Lung who's you know,
the the requisite exiled villain coming back
for revenge and He gets like the hard the school
of hard knocks kung fu training from Master Sifu
who basically thinks po is a big pile of poo
and Not in a good way Yeah, I mean we can get
more into the thing, but that's the basic thing
is po gets basically bumbles his way into this
kung fu academy and ends up having to save the
world more or less from this evil villain who's
looking for this scroll who's going to give him
like ultimate power so he believes and i mean
i like i said before i think the script not necessarily
the script but the way it's played out yeah we've
seen it a hundred times before But there's something,
you know, it's kind of a timeless kind of story
the whole hero's journey Sort of thing Yeah,
I think the difference in the plot for me as
far as what I'm gonna be comparing it to her
in a minute The difference for the plot is Poe
wants to actually get into the school. He's not
already he's not hardly He's not already there
and just being the dumbass, you know He wants
to train with these people and the comparison
I will make and I was gonna make when you were
doing the plot is that I know exactly where I've
seen this plot before. Where's that? May he rest
in peace, but Chris Farley is the Beverly Hills
Ninja! Damn, I... Wow, you know, I have not made
that connection before. Okay, just when you were
reading the plot, outside of the fact that Poe
wants to join the school and is not already in
the school, this is Beverly Hills Ninja. You
send, you know, because part of Beverly Hills
Ninja was... He was already in the school, but
he was a dumbass. He was a screw -up He couldn't
get his training right and plus no offense and
we're all well at least between JT and I were
all fat here you know Chris Farley was was a
larger man and and and hit a lot of his characters
obviously had to portray that and and that was
part of the thing of his training of you know,
he he finds his journey throughout Beverly Hills
Ninja the same thing with Poe here in this where
he's finding his way to become a master of kung
fu whatever yeah it's you know the big bumbling
boob yeah um and that's uh that's you know and
and yeah and not to uh like you said you know
knock on wood not to disparage you know Mr Farley's
comedy right and not and certainly like I'm a
kind of fan of Jack Black so I'm not knocking
him either If Farley had not passed, he would
have been voicing Poe. Like, I would lay money
down on this. I mean, and then a lot of people
probably wouldn't have given them, maybe initially
wouldn't have given the film a lot of like, oh,
it's an animated Beverly Hills ninja, you know?
See what you will about the movie. I love Beverly
Hills ninja. I Mean being well, I mean, I'm not
I wasn't really all that fat as a kid But I mean
growing up and all that any time it's a big bumbling
boob who becomes the hero like that and Gets
the girl at the end of the move, you know after
a fashion. That's my boy, you know Plus it who
doesn't want to live in a van down by the river
But yeah, no, I mean the plot Mean the first
part of the film where you know, it's you meet
po. He's his dad is a goose and Anywhere he basically
lives in like a tofu and noodle shop, you know,
he's such a nerd. He's got the posters all the
wall He's got these little carved wood action
figures, you know when you first meet po he's
rolled out of bed He's like trying to throw the
ninja stars Into this target and it only like
bounces off the target falls to the floor. He
tries like two or three like he's got no skills
and Then he you know, it's this You know, they're
gonna pick the dragon warrior today So part of
the comedy is, you know, there's very slapstick
way he tries to look through a porthole or tries
to flip over the wall or and he finally ends
up, you know lighting a wagon full of fireworks
on fire that launches him in like this arc like
way up into the stratosphere and he crashes down
and Master Oogway the turtle is like you're him
And everyone at the same time has got this WTF
mofo look on their face and the thing is it's
like this character specifically to Kung Fu Panda
not necessarily Beverly Hills ninja, but this
character is that character of Where are we gonna
find someone dumb enough to do our dirty work?
That's really what I felt watching this was yes.
I know throughout the film he you know he progresses
he learns he he you know he he he eventually
masters the technique but at first it's like
it's kind of like that scene in uh... uh... jameson
bob strike back jameson bob movie who would pay
money to see that in the middle of the world
you know it feels to me like one of those gags
at first because it's like it just feels like
a joke and then as the movie progresses you see
that he does have you know Well, first of all,
he does have a heart, and he does want to do
the right thing, and that's all well and good.
I don't know. I just got lost in the unoriginality
of the plot, I think. Well, yeah. No, it's, like
I said, we've seen, and I've said it before,
I'll say it again, we've seen this before. But
it's still, like I said, I enjoyed. One of my
favorite scenes is Tiger's head. Thanks pose
an idiot, you know, and he kind of makes friends
of everyone else like one of my favorite scenes
is where you know mantis and Viper are helping
po out with some acupuncture after this day of
training and I Love mantis is like, oh, no, I
tweaked his facial nerve because he makes like
this Look at Tigress and she's ready to whomp
some ass It's like no, he's like he just hits
the wrong nerve and his face just goes like that
and you know later on we're like you know Sifu
has sent you know Tai Lung escapes from this
prison I thought that was kind of a badass way
he escaped where you know he's basically got
like this turtle shell shackle you know stock
on him that this feather has floated off this
other goose and his tail picks it he picks the
lock and you see him bouncing off like the crumbling
cliffs and using these arrows that are stuck
in the wall from the guards you know tylong's
on his way for revenge so the furious five go
to meet him and like i said earlier they have
this awesome fight scene i i think even you would
have to admit that fight scene the bridge was
pretty cool No, the fight scenes and all the,
yeah, the fight scenes, the animation, the voice
acting, all of that I absolutely love about the
film. But if a plot doesn't, if a story doesn't
reach me or if a story doesn't pull me in, I
can't on a whole like a film just for three or
four parts, I have to like it on a whole for
the entire thing. And the plot is, Is my biggest
problem with the film. Yes, I totally agree.
The bridge scene was absolutely freaking amazing,
you know. You know, the animation is amazing,
the voice acting is amazing, but it doesn't...
Sadly, it doesn't help. The plot sucks. Yeah.
No. Again, just get the move... I agree. It's...
You know, you're not a fan, obviously. Like,
you're not as big a fan as I am. And, I mean,
as the plot moves on, another... My second favorite
scene is the one where... Shifu figures out that
Poe does have skills But he's motivated by his
hunger and that's see where you know He he stand
he sees Poe basically Poe has been Punching through
solid wood doors in order to get the food because
he's like one of those stress eaters You know
which I can certainly relate to because there's
a lot of days where you know I'm pissed off from
work And I shouldn't be eaten a foot long sub
at four in the morning, but damn it. I'm hungry
so you know he's punching through he's got the
skills he can do this and then she from oh yeah
there's like this jar of pecan cookies up there
that's where monkey keeps him and he turns away
for like two seconds and then he goes back in
and not only is po all the way like seven feet
off the floor he's doing a perfect split and
holding it so you know thus begins this you know
food food style that po you know it just shifu
knows that this is how po works so now he can
help he can figure out uh you know kind of uh
incorporate that into teaching him kung fu yeah
like the whole scene where they're just like
have a dumpling and it's like they're having
a kung fu fight with chopsticks and then he turns
it into like a five card monte thing and just
poke it's not the proper way to use chopsticks
oh no but i mean but you see that at least that's
how they show the the hero's journey that you
know he has not necessarily deficiencies but
he he's like he's wired this way way of learning
yeah everybody else like the tiger the the or
whatever whatever the hell else the other animals
are yeah All of those are traditional fighting
styles, and Poe has to use a unique and different
fighting style to get him to want to do it, and
I understand that and I get that. That's all
well and good. I absolutely love that about it,
because it is slightly different, but at the
same time, doesn't take away from the poor plot.
I'm sorry to be pulling a bin on you and ramming
it down your throat as far as that I think the
plot sucks, but it just... It's this movie just
didn't grab me at all Yeah, although, you know
as you get towards the end where he finally confronts,
you know Tai long and That I love the fact that
you know, he's taken out the furious fight with
these nerve strikes, but Poe is just so fucking
fat Earth strikes don't work. He's like that
tickles and he's like what the hell so finally
Poe gets it in gear He's kicking Tai lungs ass
And I love he's like he grabs him. He you know
pops up the pinky He's like the who she finger
hold no one knows the who she finger hold yeah,
I figured it out myself He's like, but you're
just a big fat panda. I love that line. He's
like no I'm the big fat panda, you know, and
then he does the finger hole and he saves the
day. So But yeah, it's Like I said the movie.
Yeah, it's not for everybody. But I mean, I think
it's a song for a solid It's got a solid plot,
at least. I mean, we've seen it before, but it
still works. It's one of those regurgitated,
cliched sort of things that I don't mind seeing
in a movie. Of awesomeness. My fist hungers for
justice. That was my fist. Kung Fu staring contest.
Go! You guys look amazing, by the way. Alright,
and now we move on to Kung Fu Panda 2. Oh boy.
Kung Fu Panda 2 is a 3D American computer -animated
action comedy -drama film directed by Jennifer
U. Nelson, produced by DreamWorks Animation,
came out in 2011. Distributed by Paramount Pictures
as a sequel to the 2008 film Kung Fu Panda in
which Po and his friends battle to stop a would
-be conqueror, Lord Shen, with a powerful new
weapon with a giant panda discovering a disquieting
link to the past and the process. Cast the original
film reprises their voice roles while the new
villain, Lord Shen, is voiced by Gary Oldman.
The film was released May 26, 2011 in Real D,
3D, and Digital 3D. It was nominated for a 2011
Academy Award for Best Animated Feature at the
84th Academy Awards. Have you seen this one?
I actually have. I have too, but I did not see
it in theaters. No, I got it off of Netflix when
it came out on Netflix, so I wanted to see it
in theaters. But unfortunately around that time,
you know money wasn't exactly there. So yeah,
you know, what are you gonna do? I mean the one
thing I was intrigued to see this a you know,
I love the first film and It's not often that
teaser trailers kind of hook me and I don't mean
just like oh boy I have to see it but if a teaser
trailer kind of catches my fancy Watch the next
trailer goes a long way towards me. Maybe I'll
drop real money at the theater and just the way
the like the teaser trailer starts is you know,
it's You know po, you know flexing like practicing
a kata or so, whatever they call it in kung fu
I don't know the proper term and he's like doing
the oh -ho -ho -ho from like the kung fu fighting
song Yeah, and then he's like kung fu staring
contest which I Not so sure I'm not so sure that
I should be ashamed but I actually did enter
into a staring contest with the fictional character
in a movie trailer You know, and then you know,
he does like just staring. He's like you guys
all look really good You know, it's like Kung
Fu Panda, you know summer 2011 I was gonna check
it out and then you know, like you said you look
at some of the voice cast They're all the same
except for the new villain Yeah, well even some
of the like to get the new voices like you got
three additional kung fu masters Yeah, there's
master ox who's voiced by Dennis Haber. You know
is the you know was it all state or Yeah, all
state. He was also the president in 24. He is
also kilowag in Justice League unlimited Oh,
he says snake doctor on the unit which was a
great TV show. Yeah, you got guys like you got
I'm going to say it. Yeah, yeah. Van Dam's in
here as Master Kroc. What the hell is Guile doing
in here? You look at it, they got Master Rhino
who, a character that, you know, we'll get into
the plot, a character who does not last that
long. I think tragically so because he's voiced
by Victor Garber. And this guy, you know, he
did Sinestro in Green Lantern First Flight. Thought
he's he's got a great talent for voice acting
the one that I was kind of surprised to see in
here is Michelle yo who plays this the goat soothsayer
and I was just you know, it's cuz you know, I
know her from stuff like supercop and Was it
tomorrow never dies James Bond that she was in,
you know, she's and was the that god -awful third
mummy movie Jet Li did only for the money. Yes.
Yes the dollar dollar bill, but yeah, no, I mean
the the the new voices were pretty cool. I mean
You know, like I said, you don't they don't use
master rhino that much but that's because of
the plot and the scenes you do see master ox
and master croc and Dennis Haber does most of
the voice acting like if unless you knew beforehand
Who is voicing master croc? You probably wouldn't
even realize It's JCBD Yeah, although he does
have the one line where they're They're in this
jail and they're you know master oxen croc aren't
gonna fight because they don't want to die or
They're kind of chickening out and they're going
in the cell and master crocs like I want top
bunk Which I just kind of ended up snickering
for a couple minutes because that was pretty
funny But yeah, no, it's overall this, you know
decent voice cast a lot more voice actors in
here than before but no real names that I recognize
outside of You know, they got like Danny McBride
from eastbound and down is in here voices like
one of them head villain henchmen so yeah uh...
overall again for the second film i do thoroughly
enjoy the voice cast uh... you know i think all
all all the new additions are are absolutely
great Why don't you break down the plot of the
second film for us? All right. So years before
the events of even the first film, Lord Shen,
who's voiced by Gary Oldman, who this guy can't
do a bad villain, voice or not. Here's of this
prophecy that you know He's harnessing fireworks
to create weapons and rule overall and he hears
this prophecy that a warrior of black and white
will defeat him So he basically and this is pretty
dark for a kid's film. He commits genocide or
so we think on the panda population of China
because apparently This is in a world where they're
all anthropomorphic animals Nothing else. I mean,
it's just the way it is whatever so he kills
all the pandas his parents who were like the
rulers of this Gongmen city, which is based kind
of the capital they kick his ass out and he Threatens
revenge. So already we're pretty much back to
square one with the plot and Then fast -forward
to the modern -day pose still the dragon warrior.
He's kicking ass alongside the furious five Master
Shifu has kind of advanced in his own training
you know, as a kung -fu master, and they introduced
the idea that Po, in order to, you know, he still
has to find his own path and, you know, master
his style of kung -fu, and he needs to achieve
inner peace for this. And while fighting off
these bandit wolves who are stealing metal from
the village near the side of the kung -fu academy,
he sees this symbol on one of their, one of the
wolves, and it gives him this flashback that
he's thinking about his mom. they end up getting
a message that Lord Shen has returned, he's taken
out Master Rhino, he's taken over Gongnen City,
so the furious five and the Dragon Warrior are
off to kick ass and save the day. And along the
way, Poh kind of screws up a couple of times,
not in the usual Poh way, like he literally sees
a symbol and he starts having a flashback and
he just freezes. And you find out that Lord Shen
killed his parents. And the way he came to live
with Mr. Peng, like the goose, his mom tossed
him in a box full of turnips and this got, you
know, was shipped off to Mr. Peng and he ended
up getting adopted by him. So it gets this whole
idea in the story of Poe doesn't know where he
comes from and who is he and he has this basically
an existential identity crisis. And the whole
way this Lord Shins found a way to defeat Kung
Fu and how do you defeat Kung Fu? With guns.
He's created all these cannons. He's gonna take
over China and then the world and He sees kind
of a parallel to Poe and that he knows where
he comes from but his family rejected him so
it's this weird kind of yin -yang between the
hero and villain and Along the way, you know,
you meet master storming ox and croc who basically
are not necessarily chickening out They just
don't want to die and see kung -fu totally dead.
Yeah You know, it gets a lot more involved in
the plot, but the film basically ends as Lord
Shen's gonna send this armada out with all these
cannons to take over China, and at one point,
Po takes out the armada with Kung Fu with an
empty hand technique where he catches cannonballs
and throws them right back. yeah that was awesome
I do have to say that was an awesome scene and
and I've never like I've always wanted to get
into studying kung fu because I think of all
the martial arts that I should take that probably
would have the most beneficial elements to me
and that you know you kind of get your mind straight
before you break a board and yeah it's just the
way watch the matrix again you'll learn pretty
fast yeah I'd probably get taken out by an agent
But yeah, just that scene at the end where all
these ships all the wolves are firing these cans
He's catching he's like how well but just the
move it's all smooth and flow and everything
It's so it's such fluid. It's such a fluid scene
as far as the animation as far as the effects
It's so amazing. Yeah, and we sorry you go well
when you said earlier about how Shen plans to
use guns to kill the to to destroy kung fu why
am i flashing to you better take my guns daimyo
it's the only way you're going to get rid of
these kappa yeah honestly i kind of 16th century
japan and ninja turtles oh he who dings the shell
must pay but anyway but yeah no it's i love that
scene is and it's beautifully animated and it's
just great and then he gets into the final you
know fish the cuffs with lord shen and you know
hubris takes out lord shen when like this five
ton cannon you know crushes him to death basically
and yeah i the one of the things that got me
about this movie like at least personally i'll
mention a minute but how they end the film is
he goes back home because the whole idea is when
he goes off to gongman city initially you know
his dad mr ping Basically thinks he's never gonna
see his son again and then and then the whole
idea like I need to find out who I am and he
comes home and he tells his dad like I know who
I am I'm your son and You know, he gives him
that hug and like honestly when I saw this man,
I teared up hardcore Because you know, I I lost
my own father a couple years ago to a heart attack
So a lot of you know, a lot of this father -son
stuff gets me but I mean it's something like
that. It's just like You know, it's it's kind
of beautiful in a way you know it's it's it's
it's also true and but on the flip side of this
whole father son love thing right i'm gonna throw
a wrench into this because i just realized uh
poe and uh and mr ping are luke and obi -wan
and at the same time poe's biological father
i think It is shown to be living in a far off
hidden village inhabited by surviving pandas
and suddenly he senses his son is alive. Oh,
I am your father. I don't think it would be quite...
I think Mr. Ping and Poet's more like Uncle Owen
and Luke than anything, but... Well... No, I
get what you're getting at. Yeah. It's just,
yeah. See, that's the thing, the flip side, you
had this great tender moment, you know, and they
could have just ended it there, but no! No, I'm
not against a third film. I just hate it when
they have in movies where they have like such
a great moment and It's basically a lead -in
to sequel bait because you know of my son's alive
Yeah, no, and I think it's great You know pose
not the last panda because I mean that's kind
of what you're led to believe with this whole
panda genocide Yeah, the panda side if you will
But yeah, it's just I I love the way they ended
the movie I also hate the way they ended the
movie just that they use such a great moment
Almost it. I know I know they didn't mean to
do it, but it seems like it's used trivially
or trip It's not used to the fullest effect or
at least how I would have liked so yeah So yeah,
that's that's the overall plot I I actually,
I don't know. There are some film franchises
out there where I enjoy a sequel more than I
did the original film. And I really did enjoy
this a lot more than the first film. Because
there's an actual story here. There's an actual
plot. There's actual heritage and all that stuff.
And I thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed it a lot
better than the first one. Getting into the,
you know, reception and information and all that
stuff, the first film had a worldwide total of
just north of 631 million. Kung Fu Panda at the
time was the highest -grossing non -Shrek film
from DreamWorks Animation in the United States
and Canada before being surpassed by How to Train
Your Dragon in 2010. It was also well -received,
as I said before, in China and made nearly 110
million Chinese yen. by July 2, 2008, becoming
the first animated film to make more than 100
million yuan in Chinese box offices. So that's
good. The first film has been nominated and has
won several. It's won three Annie Awards. It's
been nominated for a bunch of others. Actually,
no it's oh my god. It's won more Annie Awards
than than three holy crap all that was Annie
Awards Wow, it's been it's nominated for a bunch
of other stuff as well Overall the first film
like I said it you know it The plot for me just
needed to be better as far as the second one
the Let's see where's the ninth highest grossing
animated film ever released and the 53rd highest
grossing film of all time The sixth highest grossing
film was 2011, and its first weekend earned 108
.9 million worldwide, ranking third behind Pirates
of the Caribbean on Stranger Tides and The Hangover
Part II. So they both did well. I see why DreamWorks
is going to be doing sequels of them. Yeah. I
mean, both films basically made like five times
their budget back in those seats, so they'd kind
of be stupid not to milk the cow a little bit
more. Yeah, I could see maybe one more film,
but we'll get to that here in a minute So we
are the IGN crew for those that don't know listening
to the podcast the way we rank the movies and
the shows here on Tooncast Beyond is one don't
watch this even if it's free to worth a watch
if it's free on TV three worth adding to the
Netflix list if it's on Netflix, I don't think
these are and For this is a must add to your
DVD collection. I will give Kung Fu Panda 1,
a 3. It's worth getting on iTunes or something
like that or just renting it online somewhere.
What about you for the first time? What do you
rank it? Give it a four like I like I said, it's
it's a plot, you know, we've seen it a dozen
times But I think what makes up the movie the
other plot the animation the voice acting I think
it's definitely worth being a part of your collection
because it's a great movie overall and Like I
said, it's great for young and old. So it's definitely
something I think you should have on hand Yeah
As far as the second one, I'm going to give it
a four. I enjoyed it much more than the first
film. Again, between both films, the animation
is solid, the animation is great, the effects,
the fights, they're all great, the voice acting
is great. What about you? Oh, a solid four as
well, like I said. It's one of the few. It's
kind of like... When when I judge sequels, I
use Ghostbusters 2 as a barometer. No, I love
Ghostbusters 2 But for a second there, I was
gonna have to jump through this internet. No,
no, no I love Ghostbusters 2, but I don't think
it me personally. I don't think it really did
anything more Than the first movie did like it's
a good sequel It's just I think sequel should
try and do a little bit more and I don't think
they really accomplished that with Ghostbusters
2 Whereas Kung Fu Panda 2, you know, you've already
got the characters established You know what
they're about and they come on with this great
story about identity and where you come from
and What kind of what really matters? You know,
does it really matter where you came from and
how you got your start? This is where you are
now So I think in the terms of the story I think
it's you know, it's a better sequel because of
that But again, like we said the cannonball fight
at the end there. There was absolutely beautiful
animation. It was fluid. It was Well choreographed,
you know as much as you can with animation. So
yeah, no, I give it a straight -up four. Yeah
getting into the The DVD information all this
stuff both films are on DVD and blu -ray You
can find them both on on iTunes to either buy
and rent so that's that as far as the uh... i've
heard rumors i saw a new story back when i was
still doing nerd news network on this week in
geek dot net i saw a new story at one time where
they said it was there was going to be ten kung
fu panda movies in total uh... since then the
information i have now is that there is a third
film titled Kung Fu Panda 3. It's announced a
co -production between Dreamworks Animation and
Shanghai -based Oriental Dreamworks Kung Fu Panda
3 is expected to be released in 2016. If they,
as long... I don't have a problem with a third
film if they're just gonna make it a trilogy.
As long as they pick up where they left off at
the end of the second one and they give a finality
to it in the third film... Like either some sort
of happy ending or something. Yeah, I don't want
to see four five six seven eight nine. I don't
want to see thousands of Kung Fu Panda films
over the next 20 years, you know 50, you know
20 years 50 years what whatever I I just don't
The show does have a manga or not. The movies
do that did did did have a few more releases
i don't do comics if you want to talk about the
i don't know if you've seen these things oh it's
been released in japan so there's more about
it there is a television series kung fu panda
legends of awesomeness television series tell
The Simptologist said is airing on Nickelodeon
since it premiered in November 7, 2011. From
the cast of Kung Fu Panda, only Lucy Liu and
James Hung are reprising their roles of Master
Viper and Mr. Ping. In the series, Po continues
to defend the Valley of Peace from all kinds
of villains while making mistakes, learning about
the history of Kung Fu and meeting other Kung
Fu Masters. We will be covering Kung Fu Panda,
Legends of Awesomeness. in a later season, when
we get to the Nickelodeon season of Tooncast
Beyond. I've seen advertisements for it, but
I've yet to actually see the television series,
so... Yeah, that's neither here nor there. Have
you had a chance to even see it at all? I've
seen a couple episodes. Okay, is it any good?
It's... It's decent, you know like the guy they
got it's kind of like the guy they got voicing
Tony Stark in Avengers Earth Mightiest Heroes
the guy they got voicing Poe is doing his best
Jack Black as Poe You know, so it's it's kind
of a sound of like but it's it was decent and
yeah the only one they got in there is like,
you know James Hong and Lucy Lou were voice voicing
their characters, but haven't really seen enough
to really comment on it. Right, right, yeah.
There was a video game and there are plenty of
online games that you can check out as well.
So we're gonna, huh, are we gonna say something?
I was gonna say the game for the first movie,
eh, it was okay. It's a hell of a lot better
than the Iron Man movie games, I shall say. Oh,
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the franchise of Kung Fu Panda so far, sir? I'm
loving the movies. I'm going to check out the
TV show. And if you don't already own either
of them on DVD, I would highly recommend picking
them up. They're totally worth the money. Awesome.
I've seen the first film. I've rented it. The
same thing with the second film. I had seen both
of them before. And I rented them again just
to be prepared for this. And I just... The first
film just does not grab me whatsoever. The second
film, I absolutely love it. Second film's so
much better, I think, because it actually tells
a real story versus, hey, I'm shallow hell, everybody.
Yeah, no, I can get that. I mean, and it's weird
when you think about Jack Black doing voiceover,
if you look at kind of the dichotomy between
him doing Poe, And then voicing the character
Eddie Riggs in the brutal legend video game like
he has a Very limited range, but he makes the
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