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Madagascar Franchise Review

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your wildest imagination. Welcome to the Central
Park Zoo. Just smile and wave, boys. Today we're
gonna blow this dump. Look at the people, Marty.
Oh, I love the people. This is the life. They
had the best of everything. Just doesn't get
any better than this, you know? Until they wanted
a night on the town. Let's go. What? Come on.
We can be back by morning. The penguins are gone.
This place is crack -a -lacket. We've been ratted
out, boys. Good evening, officers. Now, they're
being sent way out of town. Oh great, this is
just great. This could be the best thing that's
ever happened to us! No, no, no, no, no, no,
no! Hey, hi. We just got in from New York. Welcome
aboard! What are they? What are they? They're
just a bunch of fancies. Let's go and meet the
Ponzies! What is he? Guinea Pig? I think it's
a squirrel. Could you excuse me for a moment?
What are you doing? I'm swimming back to New
York! Help! Ben Stiller, we just gotta ask these
bozos where the people are. How you doing? We're
just trying to find out where the - Sorry. Oh,
Alex. Chris Rock. Yeah! You don't see that on
Animal Planet. David Schwimmer. Nature! It's
all over me! Get it off! Jada Pinkett Smith.
Alex, don't! Oy vey. Oy vey! Oy vey, everybody!
Oy vey! From DreamWorks Animation. Where are
you giants from? We're from New York. All hail
the New York Giants! New York! They're out of
the zoo. Navigation! Without a clue. Don't give
me excuses! Give me results! Madagascar. Talk
to him Alex, you know, go over there and give
him a little pep talk. I'm coming with you. Stop
that thing. He's carrying scissors and hand cream.
Buckle up, boys. This might get hairy. Launch!
Analysis. It looks like a small incandescent
bulb, designed to indicate something out of the
ordinary, like a malfunction. Right. Rico. Manual.
Problem solved. It's more fun when you raise
your arms like this. My goodness, doll, you're
shaking like a leaf. Who says a penguin can't
fly? How are you gonna fix this? We should be
up and running in, say, six to nine months. Sixty
-nine months? No, six to nine months. Who made
you king of the plane wreck? Excuse me. The casino.
Perfect. That's where I'll find the penguins.
You'd kill a fight like a bunch of little girls.
Timmy Changa. These pillars are filled with baby
birds. I drop down, grab the penguins, and we
are out of here. Oh, let me drop down. I'll grab
the penguins. Enough! I'm gonna... I am so happy
to see you fool. How could you let them get away
all my face? Step on it boys. Let's get out of
here. Well, so after 12 o 'clock guys, we've
got a tail His throne is for circus animals only.
I don't trust lion. Hair too big and glossy.
He's not lion. He's lioness. This is awkward.
Remember, we just lay low. Just until the heat
dies down. We're invisible. Mark? Marty? Da da
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Saddle? This is crawling. Today, as we continue
on in the season two of DreamWorks here on Tomb
of Caspian, we're going to be... Tearing into
the Madagascar films, but we are not going to
be doing this in our traditional sense of how
we review them we are going to review the Madagascar
films as an overall franchise discussion because
neither one of us have seen the third film and
the This oh god, what is it? Oh god the stupid
zebra Chris Rock. What the hell's he say circus
Circus some I forget what the fuck the thing
is in the trailer. I don't remember I um the
trailer in a little bit So no circus afro, that's
what it is cuz he's got stupid afro on his head.
That's what it is. Oh God, so yeah, we're gonna
be doing things a little bit differently this
time around We're gonna talk about them individually,
but we're gonna talk about as a franchise just
to give the brief information on all three films.
The first film, which came out in 2005, Produced
by DreamWorks Animation and released into movie
theaters on May 27th of 05. The film tells the
story of four Central Park Zoo animals who have
spent their lives in blissful captivity and are
unexpectedly shipped back to Africa getting shipwrecked
in the island of Madagascar. The voices of Ben
Stiller, Jaina Piggins -Smith, Chris Rock, and
David Schwimmer are featured. Other voices include
Sacha Baron Cohen, Cedric the Entertainer, Andy
Richter and Andy Richter Madagascar was released
on DVD November of 2005 along with a short film
of Madagascar penguins in a Christmas caper Blu
-ray disc came out later. Blah blah is followed
by the other two sequels I Saw this when it came
to DVD I Just don't know man. I just don't I
will say up front, my biggest positive from this
franchise are the penguins. They are fucking
hilarious. I love the penguins. Oh, they're by
far my favorite part. The penguins make the movie.
As far as the other characters, I just can't.
And this was back. Madagascar 1 was back before
Chris Rock was like, I get paid a million dollars
to do voice work. Because I'm just that awesome.
Yeah. Yeah, not Go back to China or whatever
and do a fourth rush hour. Oh wait, that's supposed
to be happening. Anyway, um, I The overall plot
of this is is I guess it's decent for a family
film and I guess it's great for kids. I don't
love love, but I enjoy all of the Shrek films.
I enjoy B -movie. I enjoy a lot of the DreamWorks
stuff. At the same time, I can't stand a lot
of it. These three films are part of what I just
don't like about it. They don't tell a really...
good story and to me the whole thing with with
uh... alex the lion the main part of it be between
all three of these films is and i know this is
probably true because well catzenberg is now
dream works and used to be a disney these three
films felt like a rip -off of the lion king to
me not really where your own When did you first
see the first movie and what are your initial
thoughts on it? When I first saw the first movie,
it was right around the time it came out. I really
enjoyed it. Not only do I like the voice cast,
I liked the movie overall. Of course, there were
a lot of B plots going on and C plots going on
with the Animals of Madagascar and then where
you had Sacha Baron Cohen, which he played that
role awesomely. I like him in works that I don't
have to see his face. But what made it even better
was The Penguins. That movie, because of The
Penguins, made that movie gold to me. Which...
I will not disagree that parts of it are pretty
kind of whatever, I don't care. That's pretty
much why DreamWorks had to make The Wild to compete
with this. But I really loved the first film.
It's kind of hard to top that. But I mean I I
like the animation for what it was. It's I prefer
more realistic, but for what they did with it
I think it worked really well. Yeah You know
It's just the film just didn't grab me I don't
know why I just didn't So we move on to and we'll
get into the voice acting and everything else
like we always do later But just to set the stage
for the for the three films Getting to the second
film, which was released in 2008. The sequel
to the 2005 Madagascar continues the adventures
of Alex the Lion, Marty the Zebra, Melman the
Giraffe, and Gloria the Hippo. Starring also
again still Ben Stiller, Chris Rock, David Schwimmer,
Jada Pinkett Smith, Sasha Baron Cohen, Cedric
the Entertainer. and Andy Richter also providing
voices are Bernie Mac, Alec Baldwin, Sherry Shepherd,
Eliza Gabrielli, and Will .i .am. It was produced
by DreamWorks Animation and distributed by Paramount
Pictures. The film starts as a prequel showing
a small part of Alec's early life, including
his capture by hunters. It soon moves shortly
after the point where the original left off with
the animals. Deciding to return to New York,
they board an airplane in Madagascar and crash
land in Africa, where each of the central characters
meets others of the same species. Alex is reunited
with his parents, problems arise, and the resolution
occupies much of the remainder of the film. It
won the 2009 Kids' Choice Award for anything
kids based can win a Kids' Choice Award. For
favorite animated movie, the film was released
posthumously after the death of Bernie Mac, who
voices Zoo with a lion The movie reads for our
friend Bernie Mac. Thanks for all the laughter
in the final credits I think more so this film
versus The first film is where I get the lion
king ripoff vibe about yeah, I could kind of
get that For me the second film didn't really
hold up as well as the first Yeah But but again,
it's been done better. That's yeah but again,
you know The penguins. They just... Every movie
that's the only reason I watch them, pretty much.
It's the penguins. And then the reason that they
got their own TV show. Yes, yes. Which is fully
deserved. I love that show. I love that show.
For anyone wondering or anyone that might comment
on this episode post on geekcastradio .com, Tooncast
Beyond will be covering the television series
The Penguins of Madagascar, but... not until
we get to the Nickelodeon. It's gonna be a while
before we get there, but we will be covering
it. I'm waiting for it to come to... I'm not
looking at any DVD information. I'm waiting for
it to come to DVD at some point for a complete
series, maybe, because I think a couple weeks
ago, about a month or so ago, I saw a Kevin Michael
Richardson tweet on Twitter. about that they
wrapped up Penguins and Madagascar so I think
sadly the series is over which sucks but I think
it's been on for a while at this point so but
we will get to it eventually like I said before
the way that Beyond kind of runs as we do, you
know film series or film seasons and then later
when we get to Where cartoons actually aired
on which networks is when we'll get to certain
cartoons for that one We're gonna admit right
up front that Neither one of us have seen Madagascar
3 Europe's most wanted I believe it's still in
theaters. I don't think it's come out on DVD
yet I don't know, for me, it's not just me looking
at a trailer and saying, oh, this sucks. It's
for me, because I do watch a lot of television,
and I see a lot of commercials. When I see the
same movie trailer five times in an hour, I'm
going to get sick of that. And when Madagascar
3 hit, the marketing campaign for it was just
blitzing to everybody. I don't care to see this
film. But I'll go ahead and give the information
on Europe's Most Wanted. It came out this year.
Third installment of the series, Falling Madagascar
Madagascar Escaped Africa is the first film in
the series to be released in 3D. The film's world
premiere was at the 2012 Cannes Film Festival
on May 18th. I find this funny. Released on June
8th, 2012, it is the best reviewed film in the
series with a 75 % certified fresh approval rating
on the review site Rotten Tomatoes. The third
film also became a box -office success with worldwide
gross of over $548 million. I'm actually going
to read part of the plot here on the third one.
just so people can get a feel for what the third
one is. The story continues from the events of
the second film. Alex has a nightmare about himself
and his friends still stranded in Africa and
finding they have all gotten old. He then wakes
from this dream on his birthday and the animals
present him with a miniature model of New York
City. Alex suggests to Marty played by Chris
Rock, Melman, David Schwimmer, and Gloria, Jada
Pinkett Smith, that they should go to Monte Carlo
to get the penguins to fly them back to New York,
which they agree to do. So the whole franchise
at this point is these are all animals from the
Central Park Zoo in New York City, USA. Who then
gets stranded in Africa in the second film and
the third film is all about them getting back
to New York City This entire film franchise though
the overall plotline to me feels like a an old
Wally Gator short where Wally Some some some
animal rights activists release him into the
swamp and he doesn't like it because he's so
used to being pampered at his zoo And then at
the end the animals or the the crocodiles that
he he ran into in the wild but his relatives
They all come back to the zoo to live in captivity.
Oh Boy, I don't know Alright, so that's the that's
the overall plot of the franchise. Do you have
any interest in seeing the third one at all?
I Do just to wrap up the series, but I don't
honestly care But I will eventually see it at
some point. Yeah. I'm the same way. I can wait
till it hits DVD or hell if it even hits on TV.
Let's talk about the voice cast for these films.
In the first film, throughout the three films,
you pretty much have the four main characters
constantly. You got Ben Stiller. Chris Rock,
Jada Pinkett Smith, and David Schwimmer voicing
Alex, Marty, Gloria, and Melman. What are your
thoughts on the four main characters as far as
the voice actors go? I think they fit it pretty
well. I like what they did with the characters.
I think that in some regards they kind of fit
their persona of their voice actor. But I think
they did pretty well and they got a nice mishmash
of people for that particular unit of friends
in the film. So it's a nice polar opposite difference
between every one of them. For the penguins,
the best part about these films, you've got Tom
McGrath as skipper Christopher Knight as private
or Knights as private Kowalski is Chris Miller
and Rico is John DiMaggio I love those guys I
love the penguins that is my favorite part of
the film series Sasha Baron Cohen as King Julian
I really like Yeah, he sits that really well.
Yeah, Cedric the entertainer as Maurice and then
Randy Richter as Mort. I like those roles as
well. I think the reason why I like those roles
is because I like them in The Penguin's TV show
because that's where I've seen them the most
from. Other ones you got in here, you got...
You got Elise Gabriele playing the old lady,
David P. Smith playing the spider, and David
Calgill playing the police horse. The voice cast
overall doesn't, to my knowledge, just looking
here on BehindTheVoiceActors .com, it doesn't
change that much. If at all. I'm trying to look
down. I mean... They added characters like Fred
Tattishore as a couple of new characters. You
know, stuff like that. But as far as the main
core cast, none of them changed. I don't think
any of them changed throughout the three films.
Overall, the voice acting for the film series
is very well done. Especially when you think
of... When I think of voice acting, I think of
stuff like... Like Mel Blank or you know Dawes
Butler or Don Messick or You know Frank, you
know Frank Walker, I mean Sometimes when I see
these animated movies with these huge stars as
voices there's nothing against those people but
it's like Really that's a character. I don't
just sometimes I get that feeling not really
with these films But with with anything in general
when they go for that celebrity, it's like oh,
okay Yeah, some of them it's kind of an offshoot,
but I mean I've been pleasantly Happy with all
of their their choices in this film Yeah series
Yes You know, I mentioned it before about Madagascar
1. It got mixed reviews from excellent to terrible,
apparently. On Rotten Tomatoes, it received a
55 % approval rating based on 178 reviews. On
Rotten Tomatoes, Cream of the Crop, 37 % of critics
gave it positive reviews based on 35. The Box
Office, it... Top position us box office in the
following week with the gross of 28 just north
of 28 million Let's see worldwide gross of five
hundred and thirty two million six hundred eight
thousand six hundred seven dollars Hey, if they
can make five hundred million or over five hundred
million. That's all well and good You know anything
that makes its budget back is it is a success?
But people aren't gonna you know not everyone's
gonna like it Madagascar to same thing It made
it made its budget back total gross was 422 so
it dropped about huh? Dropped about a hundred
million from 530 to 422 from the first Wow Wow,
that's that's a little nuts Let me see here for
the third one, what did it get for think is the
third one is still in in theaters, I don't think
it's a Yeah, the total box office numbers for
for the third film aren't Worldwide total of
548 north of 540 and 540 150 whatever So the
third one has made the most money, so maybe the
third one is the best one to watch, I guess.
Yeah, the second one I kind of just didn't care,
but I think that, again, was because it was a
rehash, kind of in a sense of, you know, Lion
King -ish. Yeah. So I guess, I mean, I guess
I can get behind that, not having seen the third
film and just going by what it sounds like. Yeah.
I mean, it... It looks really interesting. It
looks like a cool plot. They're going home to
the Central Park Zoo, and that's all well and
good. But again, for me, the whole media blitz
thing, just kind of like, eh, I'll wait. It's
not like... Like, Pixar movies... Well, most
Pixar movies. Most Pixar movies for me are go
to the theater and see them. Obviously, Disney's
Wreck -It Ralph will be go to the theater and
see it. Oh, yeah. You know, stuff like that.
Yes, I have seen other DreamWorks films and theaters
like Shrek 1 and 2 and stuff like that, but the
rest of it, it's so far to this point in this
season of Tooncast Beyond, it's been, I'll just
wait till it hits DVD or if it comes on TV or
whatever. So as far as the IGN crew, I'm going
to give it a three. It's worth a watch on Netflix
as far as the entire franchise. I don't think
for me personally that these are films I would
have in my DVD collection. I just didn't get
connected with them at all. What about you? I
would say a high three because I could watch
Pixar films before I could watch DreamWorks.
But I would also say because I like the series
overall. There's there's a lot of good funny
points in it. I mean even looking at the monkeys
that You know, you've got kind of like almost
a Muppets reference. Yeah Yeah, it was pretty
funny Yeah, and as I've stated they are all on
DVD you can find them on DVD and and digital
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Madagascar? My final thoughts? Yes. That would
be definitely worth a watch. If nothing else,
watch it just for the sheer fun of it and the
voice cast because there's all kinds of goofy
antics going on. Even if the story doesn't fully
pull you, there's plenty of other stuff to keep
you entertained. Yeah, that's true. That's true.
I will agree to that. We didn't really touch
on it earlier, but I will take this time now
to say that I did like the animation style, but
again, I'm... I don't know. I'm more so interested
in the human stories versus the animal stories.
I know that may sound weird, but I can watch
Shrek because ogres are technically giant green
humans. Yeah. It's one of those things where
I can watch those animated films that have humans
and animals mixed in. You know outside of like
a lot of the Disney stuff like Did Disney stuff?
I'm not counting this. I'm just talking about
the DreamWorks stuff I just can't get into it
With this franchise outside of outside of the
penguins. I don't know why I don't know So that's
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