Young Justice Review

Hi, I'm Phil Lamar, voice of Green Lantern and

Justice League, and you're listening to the Geekcast

Radio Network. Hello and welcome to episode 20

of Tooncast Beyond, brought to you by the GeekCast

or Radio Network. I'm your host, TFJ and Mike,

and joining me once again is Sketch1984. Hello,

sir. Hey, how's it going? It's going. And today

we're going to be talking about the ultimate

teen team -up, the best one to date, which is

Young Justice. Because that other one that other

one is not in continuity This one isn't either

this is a completely different continuity There

are people that are saying stuff like well, maybe

Justice League doom in this are in the same continuity

Well, they have the same art style, but They

have the same art style, but they didn't have

the only reason why Justice League doom couldn't

be in the continuity with this is because you

have Bruce Greenwood uh... i mean technically

this in crisis on two words could be in the same

continuity or not not crisis on two words um...

batman under the red hood could be in the same

continuity because of the voice actors but um...

that would be an interesting twist actually yes

yes it would wait wait no it doesn't work because

the joker there'd be two completely different

jokers it does work because just one voice actor

doesn't make the difference yes yes it does I

have fun right through that for 21 times throughout

the years. No, the reason why I say it could

be is because of the fact that the Robin here

is Dick Grayson versus the Robin in, I almost

said year one, holy shit, the Robin under the

red hood is Jason Todd. Oh, I know. But the thing

is, these are two completely different interpretations

of the Joker. That's true. Yeah, I mean sure

maybe maybe that Joker Got a little more husky

and even more psycho at a point You know whatever

all that needs to be said is Bruce Greenwood

is a great Batman. Oh, yes, most definitely Bruce

Greenwood is the only person that should ever

voice Batman outside of Kevin Conroy at least

out of all the other ones we've had Yeah Most

of the other ones have just been... I mean, you

know, a drunk Baldwin as Batman? Ugh, no thank

you. That was such a bland voice. For such a

great movie, yeah, it was such a bland voice,

yes. That was very disappointing. But I loved

James Woods as Owlman. Owlman. Yeah, that was

great in that one. He was kind of delightfully

psycho. Yes, yes he was. oh good lord all right

so to set the stage for Young Justice oh wait

that's the other script to set the stage for

Young Justice essentially American animated television

series created by Greg Wiseman and Brandon Vietti

I believe that's how his name is said for Cartoon

Network despite its title is not an adaptation

of Peter David Todd Dezigo and Todd Nox Young

Justice comic series, but rather an adaptation

of the entire DC universe with a focus on the

young superheroes The series follows the lives

of teenage heroes and sidekicks who are members

of a fictional covert operation team called Young

Justice The team is essentially a young counterpart

to the celebrity -level famous adult team, the

Justice League. The main setting is the fictional

universe of Earth -16, during a time period in

which superheroes are relatively recent phenomenon.

The series debuted on January 7th, 2011, with

a two -week re -airing of the first two episodes.

Originally aired as an hour -long special on

November 26 2010 Young Justice premiered September

9th 2011 on teletune in Canada So what were your

first impressions of Young Justice sir? Well,

let me tell you my first impression was before

lots of other people because I got the screen

or For my review at Nick and more back. Well,

that was in 2010 Yeah, and my first impressions

was wow Really impressive stuff the animation

was so so great so fluid without losing detail

and You know it really had a very strong start

for a superhero cartoon if you just got your

right into the action you got to see the characters

developing from episode one and Honestly, I think

it's probably one of the best initial episodes

of any show I've seen in a long time. Yeah, I

would have to agree. Now, I didn't get a screener,

but a lot of people kind of forgot about the

show because Cartoon Network is in the habit

of doing these things where they will show the

first two episodes as an hour -long thing, hour

-long special. six months before the show actually

airs or you know whatever I'm just using six

months as a as a time stamp but yeah in November

I was extremely excited about it it was awesome

it was great November 2010 and then it was like

hey we've just given you this special look at

a new Young Justice cartoon and now you're gonna

wait until January yeah and it's like really

seriously and then which we'll talk about this

more a little bit later, but then, you know,

in Cartoon Network dumbassery fashion, they still,

um... They still fucked around with the schedule.

Because I had seen, like, the first four episodes,

and then I hadn't seen anything else up until,

like, the last four of season one at this point.

So it's like, I'm missing that whole middle part.

You know? But no, I love the animation. I love

the voice acting. I loved the way that the plots

were out of the plots that I did see. It was

just very, very well done. Agreed. Yes. As far

as the who's who of the show, we have... A star

-studded cast, actually. You have Jesse McCartney

as Dick Grayson Robin, Kari Payton as Aqualad,

Jason Spisak as Kid Flash, Nolan North as Superboy,

Danica McKellar as Ms. Martian, and Stephanie

Lemlin as Artemis. As far as the recurring roles,

we have... For a second there, I thought that

said Glover. Red Arrow, voiced by Crispin Freeman.

Zatanna, voiced by Lacey Chabert. Oh god, that's

so funny. Bruce Greenwood as Batman. Very awesome.

Nolan North also voices Superman, Clark Kent,

Cal Al, however many names the guy has this week.

It was announced a few months ago that Maggie

Q would be voicing Wonder Woman. Very awesome.

George Eads is the Flash. Who does Hal Jordan

in this one? I forget. It doesn't list it on

the Behind the Voice Actors thing. People have

theorized that it's Steven Bloom, just from how

he sounded, but he's never really been credited.

Because basically all he's ever done is grunt.

Yeah, yeah. Uh, Phil Lamar as Aquaman. Uh, Kevin

Michael Richardson as Martian Manhunter. Uh,

Alan Tuttick as uh, as Green Arrow. Uh, no clue

for Hawkman and Hawkwoman. Uh, Nolan North does

Zatara. I mean, this is a star -studded cast

here. They're just as uh, um, I'm actually surprised

they didn't do this, but... I like that they

didn't do this. Kevin Michael Richardson is John

Stewart's Green Lantern, which I'm surprised

that they didn't have Phil Lamar a prize winner.

Yeah, I guess they wanted to make sure that people

wouldn't... Right. Well, this is nowhere near

in continuity with DCAU or Justice League, but

it would, you know, I mean... Phil Lamar was

a great John Stewart, so honestly, I think they

probably should have had him back. But, eh, you

made a good Aquaman. Anything is better than

that crappy - What do you know, Chris Rock? Black

guys can play white. Oh, God. Can't believe you

just went there. White fish, anyway. Well, I

want to be called Super Bolton. Why don't we

just call you White Fish? That was from Harvey

Bird, man. Oh My god, I can't believe you just

went there. Holy shit. I love that show. Okay.

We'll talk about that later Yeah, that's for

a future season Overall the voice cast and this

is just superb Is absolutely a phenomenal voice

cast yeah I don't really have a favorite I guess

I would say that I like Robin, simply because

of how snarky he is. Oh yeah. Just regarding

he did a great Robin. Yeah. Just how snarky he

is and how, you know, he flaunts the fact in

villains' faces. I was trained by Batman, you

know? So it's like, holy shit. And that whole...

I'm gonna have to find the clip, or somebody's

gonna have to find the clip for me. The whole

whelmed thing, I was like, oh god, here we go,

here's the new saying, it's like, overwhelmed,

underwhelmed, why can't we just be whelmed? And

he kept bringing back that and disaster and aster.

Yeah. Disaster averted, I'm feeling the aster.

Oh my god. Really? One thing I think that was

clever. It's so funny. Um, but overall, I mean,

you know, just a great, great cartoon. Uh, the

stories were very well done. Um, it kept you

guessing every time, even though it's like, what

the fuck is the light? You know, I mean, especially

someone like me that I'm not, I'm not tuned into

whatever comic stuff is going on. So either.

Well, A lot of this is completely new information

for me. Yeah, yeah. But I like the fact that

it stands on its own outside of... Mm -hmm, definitely.

I want to say, probably my favorite casting in

this is... I adore Jason Spisak as Kid Flash.

Yeah, he does... He's so good with the the quick

lines and the wits. He's really really quite

good and I'm actually happy to see him because

I've really only seen him before in video games

and in Japanese cartoon dubs Yeah, so seeing

him finally get a really meaty role in an American

cartoon Which pays a whole lot better. It's just

make me feel good for him because that's awesome

Yeah, I really like Danica McKellar as Miss Martian

Yeah, I liked her to a point I know what you

didn't like Yeah, I couldn't stand that either

Yeah, Zatanna as a kid Okay, sure. I mean, she's

supposed to be a teen hero. That's fine. I prefer

the Zatanna in the DCAU more. Simply because

it's not illegal for me to lust after her. But

the thing with Miss Martian... Yes, the Hello,

Megan thing got old, like... the first episode

got so friggin old but i like how they did an

episode later on and we figure out how you know

why she does that and i i do like that that they're

in that they're not just throwing in catchphrases

to just throw in a catchphrase uh... do you have

a favorite Individual character or do you have

a favorite number of characters whether it's

the heroes villains or whatever characters? Well

I Really like this interpretation of Robin and

Kid Flash and Miss Martian and Satana Raider

has his moments. I would say Usually from all

the bonds the Batman, but he's kind of and he

doesn't do a whole lot here I mean, he's always

good in any scene that he's here. I like Zatara

being so overly protective even when he's got

the doctor fate mask on Well, right we could

just what about Zatanna absolutely not And how

can you not love Captain Marvel Captain Marvel

is just great to have there. He's better in this

than I like I liked him better here versus what

he did in Justice League Unlimited Oh, yeah,

because he was just kind of a foil to Superman

and that and that was kind of stupid Yeah, yeah

I'd say that's that. Oh, I do like this interpretation

of green arrow the few scenes that he gets or

are really quite good Yeah, I'm kind of biased

on Green Arrow a little bit because I don't think

Ken Schreiner has ever voiced him again since

Justice League Unlimited, and I loved the Green

Arrow voice in Justice League Unlimited. So,

that's... I'm kind of one -track minded on that.

I don't mind Green Arrow being in, you know,

cartoons and stuff like that. I just couldn't

get into the characters. How could I forget?

Uh, Red Tornado. Oh, God, yes. Yeah, Ben and

his Red Tornado is phenomenal. Yeah. And as far

as the bad guys go. Yeah. Uh, Professor Ivo is

done by Peter McNichol. It's really, really quite

entertaining. And, you know, Cheshire's pretty

good on screen whenever she's around. Always

a lovely Kelly Hu. Yes, yes, very much so. You

know, you've got, let's see, Ra's al Ghul voiced

by Odette Furr. Mark Ralston does Lex Luthor.

The voice fits for this series, though. Oh yeah,

he's a very good Lex Luthor. I've never liked

Witch Boy and His Pussy. Never liked that character

at all in any animation. Been in. Some of the

interpretations of characters here are just bad.

I really don't like the Riddler. Riddler is just

bad. But I'm going to go against the grain and

say that I like this interpretation of the Joker

done by Brett Spiner. Lots of people are like,

oh, it's awful. I was like, I don't know. I kind

of like it. It's definitely nothing like the

more iconic Joker, but I kind of liked it. Yeah.

I wish we had gotten more Vandal Savage. The

one episode when he actually fought, that was

really good stuff. For people listening, there

will be spoilers here since season one just ended

a week before we recorded this. Let's try not

to drop too many heavy ones. And we're heading

into season two. Well, the one I was going to

bring up is the fact that He's behind the whole

thing. Oh, yeah one So There is you know, I'm

not gonna you know, say what it is, but at the

end of the season finale. It's like hey Vandal

Savage and he's here and because he doesn't come

in and sell More than halfway through the season.

Yeah, this is the first time you see it And I

think that's kind of the point of this season

is that or of season one is that you have this

whole misdirection with this whole council of

evil light or whatever the hell they're supposed

to be. And then in the end, it's Vandal Savage,

which I don't mind at all. So I don't know. Overall,

you know like i said the animation is great the

design i love the stealth designs those are so

awesome yeah it's kind of hard to be stealthy

wally when you're wearing bright yellow yeah

oh yeah that that was a good call to make that

gray yes it it reminds me sadly it reminds me

of of x -men what would you prefer we wear blue

and yellow spandex he he he he he he he he he

he he he he he he I had to look up to see if

it really was an existing character, but that's

just hilarious having the guy who voiced Spider

-Man in Greg Wiseman's and Victor Cook's spectacular

Spider -Man coming in to voice a Spider -Man

type character in Young Justice. I like that

kind of throwback because I can't stand the new

Spider -Man cartoon. I haven't had a chance to

watch it yet, but from what I can tell, it doesn't

sound like it's gonna be that great. And the

Ultimate Spider -Man cartoon, which is just now

airing on Disney XD, will not be covered in the

season of Super Heroes, since I have never gotten

to watch it, and we've essentially got all of

the episodes for the rest of season one of Tooncast

Beyond already recorded. So, yeah, that'll come

up next time, you know, in the next... you know

30 years when there's more superhero cartoons

that we can cover. Everything is supposed to

get like 52 episodes unless it gets cut short.

Oh it would still get cut short if it was on

Cartoon Network. Oh yeah definitely. Alright

let's talk about how the show stacks up and we've

got four categories. How does the show compare

to other shows within the same franchise? How

does the show stack up against shows in the other

same genre? How does it stack up against shows

in its time slot if applicable? Which show from

a previous decade is this most comparable to?

Now, as far as within its own same franchise,

I should have listed JLJLU. and Teen Titans in

that, but I really only listed Green Lantern,

TAS, and DC Nation shorts. I mean, I guess we

could throw in JLJLU even though this is the,

you know, this is the sidekicks. Don't call them

sidekicks. Today's the day, oh god, that, yeah,

between Hello, Megan, today's the day. and don't

call them sidekicks. I got so sick of the taglines

for this show after a while. What would you say

it's most comparable to within the same franchise?

Within the same franchise? Yes. Well, the things

you mentioned here. You have the Green Lantern

TAS and the DC Nation shorts. Really, it's not

particularly comparable either. I mean, in a

quality scale, it's hard to gauge the DC Nation

shorts. Some of them are good, some of them not.

The Green Lantern TAS, even though it's just

got it started, I've been pretty impressed by

it so far. It's made me care about Green Lantern,

which is more than I could say for a lot of things.

I didn't care about Green Lantern until Jon Stewart

in Justice League. Yes, I will actually throw

in Justice League, Justice League Unlimited into

the same franchise since their team up shows.

So I guess, you know. Man, that's a tough call.

Well, no. Well, this is basically saying how

does it stack up with shows in the same franchise.

I think comparing this to JL, JLU. Young justice

does stand on its own young justice has so far

At least in my opinion an amazing story that

it's told over its first city It hasn't been

like every other episode of what the fuck moment

of like, you know, fuck this show. I'm never

watching this again It's it, you know, there

are certain episodes in season one that I just

haven't really kept my attention But there has

yet to be in its first season a moment where

I'm just saying I'm never watching this show

ever again You know It stacks up very well as

a contemporary to Justice League, Justice League

Unlimited. How does it stack up against shows

in the same genre, that being the superhero genre,

and what I have listed is JL, JLU, Teen Titans,

Superman the Animated Series, Batman, Batman

Beyond, and any number of the Marvel cartoon

television series. obviously it's not gonna hold

a candle to btas uh... you know young justice

has great storytelling and it's a very fluid

show uh... but it's just in its infancy so i

think it's kind of unfair to put it up against

btas uh... it is a good show uh... so i guess

i'll leave it at that what about you yeah it's

it's a good show It did a lot in 26 episodes

and that's impressive in its own right It's good

that there's gonna be 20 more at least for the

next season and I look forward to seeing how

good it becomes because It's good now. It could

be even better by the end of the run or it could

fall off the cliff and that's really gonna decide

where it falls in the great timeline of quality

animation. Yeah, yeah. And as far as it's stacking

up in its time slot, well, starting off, here's

how I start off my Saturday morning. Nine o 'clock,

Phineas and Ferb on Disney Channel, 9 .30, Thundercats,

10 o 'clock, GLTAS, and then this. The last three

weeks or so that I've been watching all three

shows not I'm not counting Phineas and Ferb but

Thundercats GL and this I've had mixed emotions

about each one. There have been a couple episodes

in the last month and a half that Young Justice

didn't just it's not that I just liked it. It

just didn't capture my attention There have been

a couple episodes since Thundercats has come

back that just haven't caught my attention and

there have been a couple of episodes of GL TAS

and I'm like what is this and you know every

Saturday morning i'll go on like you know like

eleven o 'clock Saturday morning i'll be like

i'll go on twitter or facebook and i'll be like

okay well i watched all three of these cartoons

so far i like this for this i like this for that

and i didn't really care for this one this week

or whatever else so i think between thundercats

gl and young justice young justice stacks up

pretty damn good it's better than being on it

like eight o 'clock on a friday night Really

you think that you think it's better that it's

on Saturday morning then oh hell yes. Oh hell

yeah I think it's a really it's it's amazing

that they play this on Saturday mornings because

it is violent and it is dark at times and it

quite frankly could scare the kids so That's

kind of cool. Yeah, but most kids don't even

know what the hell Saturday morning cartoons

are now. I'm betting, you know, just in my interactions

on Twitter, half the people that are talking

about these three cartoons specifically, Thundercats,

GL, and Young Justice, it's all people our age,

you know, or, you know, some, you know, similar,

you know, close to that. I mean, I don't see

parents... I think those kids have been kind

of off and on. They kind of, Thundercats, GL,

and Young Justice on Cartoon Network kind of

fluctuate in which one does best. Yes, they do.

Which is peculiar. But I guess at least they're

doing probably well enough to keep their spots,

which is about all you can ask for. That's, yeah,

that's true. Yeah, the grand tradition of Saturday

morning cartoons is lost on the current generation

and, you know, can you blame them? If you tune

in to Nickelodeon, it's like a SpongeBob marathon

until Korra comes on. Cartoon Network has tried

various Saturday morning blocks for a while now,

but usually they didn't put really meaty action

shows in there. It's nice to see them up their

game on Saturday morning, but I still think these

shows would do better on not necessarily Friday

night, because that's where they get slaughtered.

but on say a Wednesday or a Thursday night might

do well. Even a Saturday night like they used

to have action shows on Saturday nights probably

would do better than Friday because they were

getting hammered on Friday. Even Star Wars was

getting hammered on Friday. So, you know, I DVR

them. I watch it when I want. I just want them

to do well enough to stick around. And as far

as these shows stack up, I like them all in different

ways. I would say it's hard to call Green Lantern

having the least episodes. But even in the first

13, I would say Young Justice was a stronger

show. So I'm going to say Young Justice is my

favorite of three, at least for now. Yeah. And

they're all good. They're all fantastic. And

everybody should watch them. Yes. Yes. Way to

be flip -floppy over there. As far as a show

from a previous decade stacking up to Young Justice,

sadly because Young Justice is mainly about the

younger team. It's not about Justice League.

It's about the sidekicks. The only thing we can

really compare it to is Teen Titans, and my note

here is it stacks up against Teen Titans, but

why Jade does it so much better? Kind of compared

to Legion of Super Heroes I never could get into

that show Yeah, it got better in the second half,

but it's it's so forgettable Yes, they haven't

even like they once released like half of it

on DVD and never got around to the rest So yeah,

definitely the contemporary is Teen Titans and

I would say definitely within the first 26 episode

story arc, Young Justice does it better. Oh yeah,

most definitely. So being the IGN replacement

crew zero to four, what would you rate this?

Zero is don't ever watch this show ever again,

which obviously we won't rate it that. One is

don't watch this if it's on TV. It's worth a

watch if you find it for free. Three is, you

should add this to your Netflix or whatever,

DVR, which it's not currently on Netflix, I don't

think. No, it's not. I know it's on iTunes, but

it's not on Netflix. And four, obviously, is

add to the DVD collection. There are several

volumes on DVD, but until... An actual full 26

episode season set comes out. I will never purchase

any of the volume sets that are on DVD. Because

there's like four episodes here, four episodes

there. It's like, oh god. I hate when Warner

does that. But they did kind of an odd thing

with Young Justice. And they did this, I believe,

with some other shows where they would release

part of it in four episode volumes and then release

like the second half of the season in one set

which would have drove me bonkers but they had

the foresight to release a three pack that i

think is exclusive to walmart but you can buy

it on amazon and i bought that and it covers

the first three volumes yeah that i would recommend

don't buy the singles it's a terrible waste of

money yes yes it is So as far as other media,

it has an official tie -in comic book series.

It has a bunch of licensed merchandise. Additionally,

several products based off the series have been

licensed for release. Mattel released lines of

character action figures, which actually is funny,

because Mattel just announced a couple weeks

ago that the Young Justice line is ending. Which

is stupid. Yeah, the action cartoons don't tend

to last long without toys, but there have been

instances where they have managed to survive,

like Static Shock never had toys. The current

Green Lantern supposedly is not going to get

toys. The only thing that the current Green Lantern

is getting for toys is McDonald's. I saw him

at McDonald's the other day, yeah. And it wouldn't

be the when and where segment if we didn't talk

about the stupidest fucking thing I have ever

seen in my fucking life. The Flaming Sea. Oh

my god, what a cunt. Oh god, alright, so. On

the program Conan. Conan O 'Brien visited Bruce

Tim during one of his segments, and then developed

a superhero named the Flaming Sea. However, on

several occasions, their original creation would

be animated in pre -existing sequences from Young

Justice using the voice acting of whichever character

Flaming Sea was placed over. These scenes were

taken from Fireworks, Welcome to Happy Harbor,

and Schooled and in Denial. This is... Huh? I

only saw the one from Fireworks. Oh, okay. This

is the dumbest fucking thing. This is Conan just

trying to worm his way into Warner Brothers and

DC. I fucking hate Conan. He's not funny. God,

this just pissed me. When I first saw this, I

was like, are you fucking serious? Oh, God. Any

thoughts on the flaming cunt? You went there.

Yes, I did. You know, I was amused by it, honestly.

I don't hate Conan. I am not the biggest fan,

but I don't hate him. I thought it was real sporting

of Bruce 10 to do it. Yeah, it's like, you know,

that whole segment when when Conan's like, give

him this, give him this, do this to him, do it.

And Bruce just is just kind of sitting there

is like, you know, OK. It was kind of like. sure

sure sure whatever it is for me to get the fuck

away from you to that that's the way i felt that's

the impression that i got from bruce tim it was

like sure whatever you know makes you happy just

so i can go back to actually doing real work

you know they didn't even have to pay commission

for that one At the Comic Con this year, I just

sat there. Well, I didn't sit there I was I stood

there at the booth while he was drawing a sketch

for somebody and I was like, well, I just like

watching this guy work Yeah watching Bruce Tim

work is a is a masterpiece in of itself as I

mentioned earlier Warner Brothers released Young

Justice season 1 volume 1 on DVD July 19th 2011

and features the first four episodes of the series

the first four episodes were also included in

Justice League three -pack fan box set which

contain the two -part Justice League episodes

The Brave and the Bold and Injustice for All

as well as the Justice League Unlimited episodes

For the Man Who Has Everything, The Return, and

The Greatest Story Never Told. Young Justice

season one volume two and season one volume three

containing the following episodes have also been

released. So yay, there's that. I'm just waiting

for them to do a season set. I don't give a shit

about volume sets at all. Like I said, I highly

recommend the the three pack because you can

get it for like 12 bucks. Yeah 12 bucks 12 episodes.

That's not bad It's three full discs, but if

they never do I don't think they're they're gonna

get around to doing a full Season release now,

but yeah, they could surprise us down the line

Warner has a bad tendency of doing mismatched

releases and that drives me crazy as a collector

because i like all my dvds to look you know uniform

yes yes um but you know at least for those of

us who like digital content the full season one

is on is is on itunes reader uh... for high -def

i think it's two ninety nine per episode for

s for for standard deficits one ninety nine per

episode you can buy the the overall season for

i think so standard def is forty bucks high def

is fifty bucks which that's pretty damn expensive

Yeah, you're getting it in high. I mean it's

like you're gonna get the HD because they're

probably not gonna do a blu -ray Which is very

disappointing The show is gorgeous. I know yes,

it is pains me that they're not gonna put this

on blu -ray They finally got around to putting

Justice League on blu -ray at least the first

two seasons. Yeah, we're still waiting for the

rest of that Maybe maybe if it you know, gets

a really big following, then eventually they'll

have the common sense to put it out on Blu -ray.

But they're so, they're just so bad. Warner has

too many things to juggle. They got all the Warner

releases, they got all the Cartoon Network releases,

they got all the live -action Warner stuff. It's...

Warner and Disney are just bad at putting out

DVDs. Yes, they are. Which just hand out their

content to shop factory like Viacom does these

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animation aficionados calm Final thoughts sir

on young justice. It's a phenomenal show and

I recommend it to anybody who enjoys action shows

anybody who enjoys comic book stories certainly

anybody who enjoys the DC universe because this

is the first really the first show that's done

a good job of encompassing more than just one

part of the DC universe though they have kind

of since they focused on the kids you don't get

very much of the actual Justice League other

than patches of things at least so far and as

it is called Young Justice that is to be expected

But it's not the case where like in Teen Titans,

all hell was breaking loose. You're like, where's

the Justice League? Or when Justice League went

all hell was breaking loose, it's like, you know,

where's the Teen Titans? It's nice to finally

have that level of a story. And it just builds

and builds from episode one. And this is kind

of a common theme of Greg Wiseman's shows. And

you just, you gotta pay attention to all the

little details because almost everything matters.

There's nothing that's just not supposed to be

there. It's just such a great story. Honestly,

it gets a little cramped at times, particularly

towards the end of the season when they hit you

with a whole bunch of things at once. And you're

like, well, why couldn't they paste that out

better maybe? But absolutely great show. Highly

recommend it. Great action. fantastic animation,

good choreography, phenomenal voice acting, and

a really worthwhile story that just gets better

and better. Yep. And, you know, as of this recording,

we are just about to head into the second season.

This episode of Tooncast Beyond will be up the

Thursday night before the second season starts,

so we timed this just right. But I find it really

strange that Cartoon Network Is... Their scheduling

is so fucked up. You think it's strange that

they're going straight into the second season?

Yeah, it's strange that they're going, like,

straight into the second season. Well, I think

the reason for that was they ended up delaying

episodes to wait until DC Nation started up.

And the original plan was to start Invasion at

the beginning of DC Nation. And I don't know

what happened. Some episodes even aired in other

countries before they made it here, which is

ridiculous stuff, but it happened with Brave

and the Bold too, so I've come to expect this

kind of nonsense. I like to defend Cartoon Network

to people who say, oh, new Cartoon Network sucks,

but there's a lot of things wrong. There's a

lot of things that they just don't do well, and

they put action cartoons on the back burner,

and it drives me bonkers. Well, no, that's it.

Okay. It's exactly why they suck is because as

you just said, they screw, you know, they, they

move things around, they do this, they do that

without any real resemblance of a fucking brain

cell. Honestly, you know, you look at, and I

know we're going off on a tangent here outside

of young justice and this isn't, you know, you

know, telecast or whatever else, but look at

a network like USA or TNT. USA, specifically,

USA Network has Take Bird Notice. They'll do

a premiere in June for the next season, and then

they'll cut it off by, I don't know, August.

And then they'll come back in November and do

a winter premiere or something like that. So

you'll get maybe six episodes throughout. throughout

summer months or you know might might even be

six or more episodes of a show throughout the

summer and then they'll come back and do the

last remaining whatever out of this out of the

season Cartoon Network is so fucked up with their

scheduling it just it doesn't doesn't make any

damn sense to me whatsoever i don't know part

of the problem with Young Justice is they started

it too soon and they had to wait after episode

eight for more episodes to be made And then they

thought, well, let's just wait a little longer

until fall, which made for a really long gap,

which put off a lot of people. And then they

came back, and they premiered new episodes in

the fall, which was a long wait, but it was totally

worth the wait. And then they were like, well,

we can't just have this run for like 16 weeks,

so we're just going to cut it off, and then we'll

save some for next year. Oh, come on, guys. Come

on. Understand that they usually take breaks

around winter because it makes sense. Well Christmas

time and holidays. Yeah you know the thing is

is that I Think what they were waiting on for

this Was that DC nation joint? thing as as you

said they were waiting on the whole DC DC nation

block to kind of come through with Warner Brothers

the problem is is that Outside of Saturday and

Sunday mornings because Saturday mornings is

when new episodes air, but the Cartoon Network

also airs all three shows, Thundercats, GL, and

Young Justice, the same episode of that week

the following Sunday morning in case people missed

it. The problem with that is the advertising

for DC Nation only happens on those during that

block. Like Thundercats I was amazed to see a

Young Justice promo on a Friday evening right

before it switched over to adult swim Wouldn't

even have noticed but somebody benched it on

Twitter. It was like oh wow a Young Justice promo

because it's like, you know, I watch TV a lot

and I you know, I Don't care what a lot of people

say about this show. I think it's a cool show

I love watching reruns of Johnny Test But like

I'll watch Cartoon Network during the day specifically

between like 11 30 and 2 p .m. 11 30 a .m. To

2 30 p .m. Because that's usually when they run

like Scooby -Doo and Looney Tunes and Tom and

Jerry Unless they decide to do some stupid movie

during the week But anyway, you know and like

I'll watch Cartoon Network throughout the week

and I see like 50 60 70 advertisements a day

for Adventure Time and regular show putting my

side of my hatred of those shows aside 50 or

60 ads of the for for each of those shows per

day versus one or two advertisements on a Friday

night and then advertisements on a Saturday morning

for your superhero action block that's very friggin

biased yeah and uh The thing that really kills

me, and I don't even hate this show, they got

that Ninjago show from LEGO. I enjoy the show,

it did really well on the ratings, but it got

promoted like crazy. They don't even own that.

I don't understand it. They must have gotten

some kind of serious money from LEGO to put so

much advertising behind an action show. Not only

is it an action show, it's a serial action show,

in which there's a story that continues from

episode to episode. So the whole argument that

serial action shows can't do well is BULLSHIT!

If it was Lego Batman, it would have been a hell

of a lot better than a Batman anime as far as

the follow -up to Brave and the Bold. I wouldn't

count out a Lego Batman just yet. Well, no, but

what I'm saying is like have Lego Batman instead

of Ninjago is what my point here is. It's like

Lego Batman will be so much cooler than watching

Lego Ninja things. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I think they will do a Lego Batman.

It's either going to be Lego DC or Lego Star

Wars because there's another Lego show in development

and they haven't said what it is. Oh my gosh.

I am sure it's one of those because they already

had the Lego Star Wars special and that did well.

That was, I love that. That was like, like I,

yeah, you know, you take franchises like that.

I love when they do stuff like that because that's,

it was so friggin cool. But when you take just

regular Lego man and dressed them up as ninjas?

That's just dumb. It's all I have to take a marketing

ploy for that line of Legos. And it's not the

first time they tried this stuff. They had like

the Bionicle movies. This is the first time that

they did like a long form series. There was the,

what was that called? Hero something. That was

like a mini series and this is the first one

that they were like, okay we're actually gonna

do a series series and You know, the ratings

are really good even with adults and that's kind

of scary That's very friggin scary All right,

so as reasoning that if they put Like oh first.

This is the other thing they put after that high

rated episode of Ninjago. They don't put Ben

10. They don't put Thundercats. They don't put

DC Nation. They put Level Up. Not even a new

episode of Level Up. Just a rerun from the day

before. Imagine the ratings that DC Nation could

get if it was after LEGO. It's just common sense.

Why do they always put their action shows in

this small little box? and they don't rerun any

of them outside of the weekend and early in the

morning and they're not gonna put like Young

Justice early in the morning on weekdays. Best

it's gonna get reruns on Saturday and that's

gonna make the ratings tank because on Saturday

morning reruns do awful. This is why you should

buy the DVDs, because you're not going to catch

them again. Or buy the season in iTunes. Overall,

as we've said, even though the train just got

completely derailed there in that discussion,

Young Justice, check it out. It's an awesome

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