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Green Lantern: Emerald Knights Review

About this Episode
all -star superman which i didn't make this joke
during the all -star superman record because
i know ben would probably hang up the skype call
but look at that title all -star superman that
movie is ass Stand tall, warriors, and charge
your rings immediately. There's no mistake. This
is just the beginning. In brightest day and blackest
night, no evil shall escape my sight. Let those
who worship evil's might beware my power, Green
Lantern's light! When you shape the light of
your ring you walk in the footsteps of the first
lantern We've got one chance and one chance only
If he gets past oh, I he can annihilate any world
anywhere a green lantern I believe in destiny
all of this everything we do is a part of that
destiny Hello and welcome again to Animation
Fish and OZ, crossing over with Tooncast Beyond.
We are continuing our look through the DC animated
movies. I am your host, Ben, and we're joined
by my co -host, TV's Mr. Neil. It's not that
easy being green. And we have with us the host
of Tooncast Beyond, TFG1 Mike. Waka Waka. Yes,
we are here and we are coming to, we only have
two more episodes in the crossover spotlight.
I'm loving that we're so far ahead. Tonight we
are going to be talking about a movie that Ben
probably will not like I enjoyed it simply because
on June 7th 2011 Green Lantern Emerald Nights
got released Ten days before we got the yellow
fear monster of shit So it's sort of like a beauty
Ugly thing where you have like a Picasso next
to a pile of manure and you're like, oh pretty
much But it's not Picasso. It's more it's more
like a finger painting next to a pile of manure
But all right before we get too far into this
I have one of the thing I want to say The people
that did Batman Gotham Knight Watch this fucking
movie. This is how that type of story is supposed
to be fucking told damn it You know, I was gonna
say you got a Picasso next to a pile of shit,
you know what I'd say? That's a mighty fine -looking
pile of shit Take that Picasso I Know that Neil
was not Picasso fan and most of his later work
is shit Okay, all of his later work didn't we
have said da Vinci Ben Well, yeah da Vinci Because
you know because you know the secret about the
about the Christ legacy is in the da Vinci's
no Yeah, um We go. Okay, finally guys. I I really
dig this movie simply because It's not a Hal
Jordan story Hal is pretty much narrating all
of the intertwining stories here. I love the
animation on it, I think it's great. Any time,
doesn't matter if the character is purple or
not, any time Kelly Hu does voice acting, I love
it. I don't know, I really like this one. I like
the fact that it was an overall linking story,
even though it still told six or however many
individual stories it was. I don't know, I just
really like this one. It was more enjoyable to
me than Batman Gotham Knight. I almost like this
a little bit more than First Flight, but I respect
and like First Flight for what it did because
it brought new voices to those characters of
Hal and Sinestro and all that stuff. I don't
know. What about you, Neil? Well, I certainly
do agree that it's better than Gotham Knight.
However, I think you could have cut about half
the length off this and just made it an episode
of Justice League. It seemed like... It seemed
like something that should be like a regular
episode of the program and not movie. It doesn't
it doesn't have an epic feel. Even that's the
thing that that that that startles me is you
have something coming from the anti -matter universe
through through a sun the size of a planet and
it feels underwhelming. It's it doesn't feel
like a movie. Yeah, that's the biggest that's
the biggest fault of it I mean first flight feel
like a movie. This doesn't feel like a movie
This this this feels less than what heavy metal
is and heavy metal was also an anthology story
This is less than that. This is this is basically
several linking stories that and Honestly, I
I didn't like the kilowag story at all. I thought
that it diminished who kilowag was instead of
giving more depth to the character, I think it
diminished why Killawog is Killawog in that he's
just parroting someone else. Yeah, the Killawog
story in this for me just, as I said, I like
the animation, I like most of the voice acting
in this, but the Killawog story kind of took
me out of it. Really what I like is the end of
the film, honestly, is that final story about
going up against Krona. And all that that's what
I really like about the film but as Great and
awesome and epic as Henry Rollins is he should
not have voiced kill a log It did not work. And
like I said, it's it's just it's just a weird
thing because Having grown to come out a son
and having them push Oh into him to kill him
in having mogos show up to help that this should
be such an epic moment, but the buildup is so
slow and so lackadaisical you don't really get
that sense of dread or sense of Urgency it just
it by the time it gets there and they start ramping
up the music and the scenes and stuff It just
like comes in if you miss two minutes of it.
Guess what? Oh, you missed the climax. Okay Yeah,
because everything else seemed like business
as usual. Oh, yeah, we evacuated. Oh, okay Yeah,
let's just just you know form in lines and be
real calm about everything and just talk really
calmly with each other No, no sense of urgency
in these characters If this is supposed to be
like The final battle and there's no urgency
at all. It's like oh, yeah Well, yeah, if we
die then we just die and the ring goes to someone
else. Yeah, everybody dies. So what? Yeah There's
no urgency in these characters and that throws
off the pacing something fierce in my opinion
Yes, to me the the big goal at the end he didn't
call in feel like he was built up at all you
just it you Yeah, there's no buildup. It's just
all of a sudden he's here and if you leave the
room for two minutes right before he shows up
and then right after he he's Vanquished you wouldn't
know it because it wasn't amping up to that.
I Did like the mogul story and the story is awesome.
The mogul story is great The mogul story is awesome
that that that is the most credit I'll give to
this the mogul story is awesome. It's one of
the best stories I've seen it's the one of the
best renditions of mogul I've seen but like I
said The pacing killed this for me. It totally
killed this for me because you have all the lanterns
in a single file line, you know, just very lackadaisical
and calm, you know, even though Krona, this being
that all the guardians themselves can harm, had
to banish to an alternate anti -Mare dimension.
And everyone's just so calm. I mean, there was
more emotion and more, you know, sense of urgency
when Kyle Rayner said, in Justice League Unlimited,
we're drawing a line here. And then Amazo came
through and just blasted right through the line.
Yeah. But there was more emotion in Kyle saying
that in Justice League Unlimited than there was
in this entire movie. Like I said, it's... Even
if they just did some stuff with the score, with
the musical score, to add some sense of urgency.
But there was none of that. I think the problem
here is they have the, you know, number one,
they're having the story being told from the
point of view of Aresia. And, you know, as everyone
knows, she's pedo bait, but she's underage. She's
underage. You should know I tagged him in a Facebook
image. yeah, it's and this just and The whole
thing is you know, she's supposed to be like
a student then oh I remember in a class of matter
and antimatter can't touch so we're gonna hit
them with matter and They're like, oh, okay.
Let's just do that it's It's extremely underwhelming.
I Did like some ideas for the stories. I did
like the idea behind the first Green Lantern
story, but This the story itself it just Yeah
It didn't feel right. I think for me my two favorite
stories out of this war Is it Lyra? Yeah. Yeah,
I liked her story and I like the mo obviously
the mogul story Kill a log story just it reduced
to kill a log was Yeah, let's be honest because
because it makes it to where kill logs whole
attitude the pooser thing He's parroting someone
else and this was not in anything else. This
was an original story just for this Yeah in the
process of trying to create kill log a backstory
they reduced him they reduced who he was as a
character who he was as a trainer and who he
was as a green lantern and But but the other
story the one about the planet and the daughter
and the father Yeah it was interesting, but I
have to say that it really I really didn't feel
much in the way of Emotion for these characters
because we just sort of thrown into the situation
where there's girls going against her whole family
and we have no Backstory to it other than right
when we see it and it just sort of dumps it all
on us at once and it you don't have enough time
to create an emotion well, that's because the
way that they did this was As you said, Ben,
it's telling the story as Aresia is learning
it from Hal. So I mean, Hal is basically narrating
the whole movie. Well, then he's a shitty storyteller.
Ladies and gentlemen, this just in. Hal Jordan
is the shittiest storyteller of all time. At
least he's not Jeff Johns. Oh God, we're not
going there. We're not that will be here all
night if we know I'm making a joke but like I
said, like I said, I think the fact that this
the fact that the pacing and the tone of the
first 75 % of the movie Totally threw me off
and other than the mogo story. I really can't
pin down anything I like in the other individual
stories. So What about you Neil? Anything else
in the other individual ones that you liked?
Let's see. Lyra's costume. Everybody likes Lyra's
costume. I liked how she used her powers though.
I liked how she used the lantern powers. I thought
that was cool. Yeah, that was pretty cool. Oh,
good fight choreography. Oh yeah, that fight
between her and Dragon Daddy, that was awesome.
My two nitpicks for this, again, goes back to
the fact that this Hal Jordan is the shittiest
storyteller of all time. He says there had to
be chaos in order for them to have order, and
I'm like, well of course you have to have chaos
to get order, duh. And then the other one was,
and this is such a nitpick, and I know, and I'm
not taking points off the movie for this, but
on the planet Jade, they mention that they follow
the Golden Dragon, and I'm thinking your planet
is named after a shade of green. Why are you
not worshipping a green dragon? Well, the Golden
Dragon, it's because they have crab legs on their
Friday night buffet. That's what I was thinking
when I heard that tame I'm like, oh, I think
I've been there before good hot and sour soup
It with your secret society when your government
is named after a Chinese takeaway takeout, yeah
Yeah, it's just so, ugh. At least it wasn't the
LaTroy Dragon. LaTroy Dragon! Yeah, she was going
to be attacked by a giant muppet. And around
this time... that this movie came out, as I said
before, it came out 10 days before Van Wilder
was Green Lantern. The one thing that during
this time that really made me excited for anything
Green Lantern was the Muppets parody trailer
with Kermit in a Green Lantern suit. That was
freaking awesome. I love that. They wear my banjo.
Green froggy flight something in my throat And
that trailer is a million times better than the
movie The Green Lantern movie. Oh, well, yeah
the muppet teaser. Yeah is is million times better
than the actual film No, it's not in Swedish
as far as this movie as far as what it made which
is it's actually kind of sad at this point it
currently up until the next one that we'll get
to in the spotlight it currently is the one that
has made the least amount of money coming in
at two million five hundred and seventy two thousand
dollars it sold one hundred eighty thousand eight
hundred and forty seven units do you think do
you think DC asylum themselves The only one that
is made less up to this point before we get to
next week's episode Was the when they did the
DC Universe? Showcase shorts collection that
made three million seven ninety nine thousand
Yeah, but but seriously a serious the serious
question is do you really think that this movie
was put out at that? Timetable because DC asylums
themselves. Oh, yeah. Oh Yeah, yeah, I'd made
a new verb They totally asylum themselves, yes
a chopkick themselves Yeah, it was pretty pretty
bad um as far as you know rating this movie From
so weird I Originally rented this on iTunes just
so I could see it when it came out and iTunes
is being so weird I went to rent it again to
watch it before we did the recording tonight,
and it wouldn't let me. It said, this should
already be in your queue, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah. And I'm like, no, no, it's not. So I had
to actually buy it. I don't mind buying it. I
like the movie enough where I don't mind spending
the money on it. But I had to actually buy it
again to even get it into iTunes again. For me,
I would say it's a rent at best. Uh currently
it is not on netflix. So for me, I would say
it's a two or a three. What about you neil? Yeah,
i'll give it a two then Are you gonna say something?
I was just gonna say A two I think is watch it
if it's free. Yeah, if you're really curious
to Rent it if you really want to but I wouldn't
recommend it I I give this a two. I I wouldn't
say don't watch it, but don't Put money down
under it because it's I don't think it deserves
any more money than it already got I don't think
we have to reward mediocre with money Yeah, so
I give this a two and an upper decker The one
thing we forgot in this entire discussion so
far was we forgot to talk about the voice cast,
which we have the side -by -side comparisons
from behind the voice actors. Nathan Fillion,
Jason Isaacs, Elizabeth Moss, Henry Rollins,
Arnold Vosselot, Gray Delisle, Michael Jackson
II? Huh. Okay. For Michael Jackson. Beat it bloom
was a number of voices in this and as I said,
Kelly who? Kelly who? No, not Kelly who? Who?
Dude bad joke. Who's on first? Who's on stage?
Yeah, there you go I mean honestly looking at
this voice casting. I mean Steve bloom has four
different roles in this entire thing So this
is pretty much the Steve bloom movie Well to
me it feels like this this was something with
It didn't exactly to me feel like it had a lot
of thought behind it. It felt like it was basically
there and then done and then Like I said other
than the mogo story. I did enjoy this and Yeah,
and mogo don't need no voice actor. No As far
as the voices of Green Lantern so far that we've
gotten Between David Borean is Stabler Chris
Maloney and Nathan Fillion. I still like David
Borean is his version of Hal Jordan the best
I'd have to say Stabler more so for me because
I don't think they gave Nathan Fillion anything
to really sink his teeth into it No, they didn't
he doesn't eat in the entire movie. He does I
mean, I don't think he changed the tone of his
voice at all He was like it was almost a deadpan
but not quite right, but the entire movie They're
like, go get ready. We have to go take care of
Corona. Go get ready. And then you see all these
lanterns going up to the central power battery.
Standing in line, pacing. Standing in line. Brightest
day, blackest night, blah, blah, blah. Green
Looney Tunes. Can't look. You know. They really
just furl. Yeah, yeah, pretty much. The only
one in this entire movie that actually gave a
good, like, really... Emphatic version of the
old was abin sir at the end or during that whole
story there You don't hear Nathan at as hell
at all say it I mean you hear him say but you
don't hear him say it is normally the Green Lantern
of Earth would say it He says he says it like
yeah, he says it like okay. Let's see here Password
is blah blah blah blah blah. Okay done it's Like
I said the tone the whole tone of it killed it
for me because the tone is very slow and methodical
and and Business as usual you don't have a sense
of urgency None of these characters gave you
that sense of urgency another writing did none
of the music that it was just a sense of business
as usual I Don't remember was there a short along
with this one. I Wish I remembered Looking it
up. Actually. I don't let's see Green Lantern
film features voice talents of I don't think
there was It doesn't have anything on the on
the DVD case So I don't think there was a short
with this one. I think I think it around this
time They were releasing that showcase thing.
Yeah, Superman Captain Marvel returned Black
Adam. Yeah Yeah, I But you know it is on DVD
single disc to disc and in blu -ray plus digital
download I don't know I Liked it I I enjoyed
this more than I enjoyed watching trailers for
Van Wilder is Green Lantern. So there is that
I guess So I think we're gonna take a quick break.
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so any other notes on this episode or of this
movie, The Green Lantern Emerald Nights? I don't
think so. And I'm repressing my urge to say that
catchphrase because I hate that wrestler. Say
it. No. You know at the end of the episode I
just kept thinking okay mogos here. What if unicorn
shows up? Personally I was waiting for ego to
show up You go the living planet Marvel comics,
yeah, yeah black this is enemy the unicorn reference
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