ToonCast Beyond
Justice League: Crisis On Two Earths Review

About this Episode
Beyond good, beyond evil, beyond your wildest
imagination. On a parallel Earth, my world is
similar to yours in many ways, but very different
in others. Luthor's new Justice League is not
to be underestimated. Super villains rule the
planet. We were systematically destroyed by a
group of super -powered beings known as the Crime
Syndicate. They have the same superpowers as
the Justice League, but with an evil twist. Take
them down. They're willing to kill. Get ready
for an all -new animated original movie from
DC Universe. Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman,
Green Lantern, and the rest of the Justice League.
It's okay. We'll take it from here. In a battle
against their criminal counterparts. I'm the
baddest of the bad. Anybody who ever stood in
my way is dead. Two Earths. Two Leagues. One
epic battle. Justice League. Crisis on Two Earths.
Nice place. Mr. President, I think I'm gonna
like it here. Hello and welcome again to animation
fish and I was crossing over with to cast beyond
We are again continuing our look through the
DC original animated movies. I am your host Ben
and of course for joining my co -host TV's Mr.
Nail such heroic nonsense Those bad. Yeah, we
also have with us the host of to cast beyond
TFG one Mike Blanchard. Hello And also from the
Joker also from Tooncast beyond we have Steve
Megatron Yes, hello All right, and we of course
are talking about Justice League crisis on two
earths and Start out with this. This is was actually
originally intended to be a bridge movie between
Justice League and Justice League unlimited and
There's still a lot of that DNA left in there,
but this totally stands on its own. Oh, yeah,
it does. I love the DNA that they left in there.
But yes, sadly, from season two of JL to season
one of JLU, they just couldn't get worlds collide
off the ground. And I believe Dwayne McDuffie
turned this around within like 48 hours as far
as like an initial script, like an initial rewrite
of the script. Pretty much, but you know, like
I said, even then a lot of the changes, you know
changing, you know, John Stewart to to Hal Jordan
In other edb changes, you know, you can still
see some of the elements that were meant like
for instance the invisible plane Yeah, that was
introduced here was obviously intended to be
the explanation of how Wonder Woman got the invisible
plane and Jlu. Yeah And the fact that the watchtower
was being constructed here was obviously a hint
of you know at the end of season 2 of JL But
like I said blew up. Yeah, like I said, even
with that even with these remnants of DNA That's
not a detriment to this at all. I think actually
adds to it I think I think if anything it just
makes it even more interesting and I really did
love this movie except for one minor nitpick
that Just is so minor that I'm just gonna get
out of the way right now and we're never gonna
mention again Okay, Marsha manhunters costume
sucks. Oh Okay. Well, I didn't like Martian Manhunter's
design in this so it doesn't really matter to
me either way The one nitpick I have to get out
of the way and I actually looked this up Yes,
I understand this was supposed to originally
was a bridge movie. It was Justice League World's
Collide which Joy McDuffie turned it into this
but I did a little bit of research. You know,
Infinite Earths and all that stuff has been around
for a while, but Earth Prime and all that, the
first time I saw that before I saw this movie
was Turtles Forever. I swear to God, this is
Turtles Forever with superheroes. Well actually,
Turtles Forever is Crisis of the Infinite Earths
with turtles. Exactly. You know, it was just
only a couple of days ago what we were praising
the hell out of Turtles forever on on the animation
aficionados so you can check that episode out
pretty quickly but you know, this really is a
great a Great movie because it is because even
the itty -bitty parts You know, it's it's it's
a blink and miss it sort of thing. But those
those blink and miss it scenes are great I mean
for someone who doesn't quite understand the
comics, it doesn't hurt. But the ones that do
it's like, it's like a little extra added bonus,
like, like, you know, the made men, like, like,
you know, the, the crack in the crime syndicates,
Superwoman's made men were pretty much the Marvel
family. Yeah. And I love that because he has
even had even had the, you know, The the goofy,
you know the goofy uncle from from the original
boss of comics as a badass and that was kind
of funny but in Another thing I loved was you
had you had you know, you know Deathstroke the
Terminator Slade Wilson as the president Yeah,
that's and plus you had what's his name? Oh You
had senator Kelly from x -men 2000 voicing him,
Bruce Davidson. One of the things for me on this
one was, first of all, outside of the original
DCAU voice cast, this Superman is the one that
I like the best, outside of New Bern and Daly.
Mark Harmon really knocked it out of the park
as Superman, I think. I was waiting for him to
slap someone in the back of the head. And William
Baldwin did a pretty good Batman, too. He did
pretty good. I like his better than Sisto's and
better than Oswald. Oh, we're not even going
there. That's for a much later episode. Go ahead
and another thing I liked was just you know the
number one as we said, but this does definitely
take take a lot of DNA from the intended bridge
movie between JL and JL you but also took some
took some hints from a I think it was a Grant
Morrison comic from the early 90s called, you
know, you know JLA earth to yeah, it which is
great to find because because it's because you
know grant morrison come on grant freaking morrison
and And a lot of the hints like everybody on
earth two has their has their anatomy reversed
For instance, you know the heart's on the wrong
side. That's that's the that in this movie is
how superman figures out that this lex luther
is from another Is from another universe and
what I did also liked was the fact that he knows
himself as alexander luther, which is what the
earth two Luthor does you know versus saying
I'm Lex he's Alexander so In oh good and another
thing I have to praise is, you know James woods.
Oh, yeah as I will man. I mean talk about a creeper.
Holy crap But that guy was awesome as hell, man.
The one thing I'm not too sure about this, I
know Bruce Timm had said it in the commentary
for A Better World, but he mentions in that commentary
that they wanted to make the Justice Lords sort
of like the Crime Syndicate, but you couldn't
make them, because he had read the Authority
comic apparently at the time, you couldn't make
them totally... the crime syndicate, so I think
this is again a leftover piece of that where
he wanted to do that and this is kind of where
he went with it. The only other nitpick I have,
and I don't know because I'm not too up on the
comics, but the gestures, Harley being a monkey,
that's a little weird to me. you know what that
was more of a cute little nod versus versus anything
that means anything so i i i i i i i i i i i
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i i i i i The animation in this movie is beautiful,
and the designs really suit the studio. This
is, again, one of the more expressive ones, especially
with the faces. I really enjoyed watching this.
What about you, Neil? What did you like about
this one? The fight choreography. Oh, yeah. There
were some awesome wrestling moves going on between
Wonder Woman and Superwoman. I mean I saw at
one point Wonder Woman actually dropped an elbow
on Superwoman and she did and hogtied her and
it said it said submit submit and then there
was the thing with the spear I don't know the
name of the character but Wonder Woman slams
his other character into a wall and lodges a
spear right next to her head, and then thwaps
the spear against this character's head. It was
hysterical. I love that, yeah. There was a lot
of fun with the fight choreography, I can tell.
What about you, Steve? What are your thoughts
on Crisis? I like the interesting twists and
direct parallels of the hero to villain ratio.
Nice touch for for instance like the Joker's
alternate owl man and Batman just They they look
similar enough, but to tell clearly who they're
supposed to be duplicates of and I like the the
animation style and all the fighting in it because
it's pretty much just an all -out brawl the whole
movie Yeah, I mean this one was... This so far,
out of them all, out of all the ones we've covered,
honestly, this one is probably my favorite up
to this point now. It was so well done, as Neil
said with the fight choreography, with the animation.
The fact that it almost reminds me of JL, JLU
animation style. Exactly, and what I also loved
was... Was i was watching as a friend the first
time i watched it and when batman was in the
was in the uh power loader and he showed up to
fight the uh to fight the the supers supers yeah
You know, I I me and my friend both shot at the
same time get away from her you bitch And we
couldn't help it it was just like The one thing
that creeps me out about that mechanical bat
suit on on the tower is I didn't when I first
watched this I when I first watched it was when
it first came out I haven't seen it since then
up until obviously right before this recording
the first time around I didn't notice the only
thing I noticed about that that mechanical suit
he has was the the claw arm thing And going back
and watching it today, I did not notice that
it actually has actual regular hands for his
arms and his hands. And it just creeped me out
so much that his hand movement is moving the
claw. I mean, I know that's how you normally
do it. Your hand movement moves the... the appendage,
but it's just so freaky to me. I actually screen
capped it and put it on Facebook. It's just a,
I don't know. It's a creepy, creepy image to
me. Well, you did, you did the screen cap of
him doing the, the come on gesture. Yeah. Like
I said, like I said, that's what me and my friends
shot it because that was the power loader. Come
on guys. It was. Yeah. I'd have to say, ultimately
my favorite part of this movie is the very end
where Owlman and Batman are duking it out between
not only their wills, but uh their Gadgets. Yeah,
they're gadgets. They're they're detective skills.
I mean all that is coming to a head. It's almost
like Sherlock Holmes and Moriarty against each
other at this kind of point. Oh Yeah, and what
I did love was Batman did give out man the means
to save himself about man. Just grinch and says
it doesn't matter And then Batman sends him to
another planet to blow it up Know but he did
he left he left one of those devices behind so
Alman could have saved himself if he wanted to
Yeah, because Batman doesn't kill. Yep, and I
like that man also tricked Flash's counterpart
Johnny quick. Yes It's a cause in the whole thing
to happen knowing full well that he was going
to die He did trick him but also at the end when
he came out He did scream, Johnny, you can stop.
I mean, we knew that something like that was
going to happen, but I don't know if it was to
try to save him or to stop him from maybe spontaneously
combusting from going that fast. I don't know.
When I first saw the image of him going full
speed, the first thing I thought was, oh, it's
alternate flash going into the speed force. This
movie is so awesome Every like that there is
an adult scene in this film there really isn't
I mean this another movie that I would not skip
around just to watch the cool scenes I Watch
watch all the way through scene is cool You know
I know that Mark Harmon is mainly known for NCIS
and all that stuff, but Chris Noth as as Luthor.
Oh my god What the hell's a detective from law
and order doing in a Justice League movie? Well,
he's also mr. Big Yeah, I don't give a shit about
that But no, this is this was really this was
really fun I especially I especially enjoyed
Aquaman's little fight scene in this Yeah, that
was kind of awesome. Batman's like, they're too
powerful for you, we'll see about that. As he
wipes blood off his chin. Yeah. The one thing
I really loved about this, because I was, this
character has always been a favorite of mine
ever since I was a kid watching the super power
shows and stuff like that, the super friend shows.
I love seeing Firestorm. That was awesome. Okay,
in silence. Firestorm's okay. Well, I mean if
you grew up liking the character and see I think
this is the first time He's been in animation
since then because I know he wasn't in Justice
League. He was in JLU Well, he one scene maybe
I don't think he talked did he? You know how
many heroes they had in scenes that never talked
I know I mean they had they had freaking Aztec
and the blue in the blue devil in JLU background
shots I mean the blue freaking devil who remembers
the blue devil Well Aztec did talk in a couple
episodes because he he was the one that was looking
for Luthor in the initiation. That's right. So
getting into the cast we've kind of you know
talked about the cast a little bit but I mean
this by far stellar voice casting by Andrea Romano.
just amazing. You have, as I said, Mark Harmon,
William Baldwin, say what you want about the
Baldwins, Chris Noth, Gina Torres as Superwoman,
James Woods as Owl Man, Jonathan Adams as John
Jones, Martian Manhunter, Brian Bloom as Ultraman,
Bruce Davidson as the President, Josh Keaton
as Wally West of Flash, he was also Aquaman as
well, but he was uncredited for that. Just an
overall really great voice cast and this is a
voice cast that you don't need like you would
think since this was originally for The DCIU
you would think oh, well, they're gonna get every
single Justice League voice back No, and it doesn't
need it. It doesn't even as much as I love as
much as we all love Kevin Conroy as as Ben said
William Baldwin did a fairly decent job as Batman,
and you don't need any of the DCAU voices in
this. You really don't. Like I said, it has the
DNA, but it really does stand out as its own
product. I mean, that's the beauty of it, that
you don't need the backstory. You don't need
to know two seasons of JL to jump into this.
You don't need to know where it goes from this.
It is. It simply is a great movie. Oh, yeah,
totally agree any other thoughts Neil Just that
the way they brought in the invisible jet the
way that you really didn't know that it was the
Invisible jet until the very end and then and
then it doesn't wonder on basically say can I
keep it? Yeah, yeah And then you go. Oh That
was very clever One is even more clever about
this is when she uses it in For the man who has
everything and Batman doesn't like her flying
skills cuz he almost pukes in the invisible jet
That'd be hard to clean up Steve any other thoughts
initial thoughts on crisis Initially, I almost
didn't give this one a shot being that I saw
that, what was that other Justice League movie
that I didn't care to watch? New Frontier? Yeah,
I saw part of that one and that kind of turned
me off to some of the movies. So I looked at
this one almost in that way and then heard that
the original voice cast wasn't in it so I was
kind of a little off on it but then after I started
watching it, it turned out fine for me. Like
you guys said, it does have the vibes of JLU
but it does stand on its own. I was glad I watched
it by the end of it and I would definitely say
that it's among their best of their DC animated
movies. I also love the fact that they referenced
the Jedi mind trick. That was hilarious. Poor
Flash. This is like the JMI track. This is not
like the Jedi mind trick. Yeah And I I didn't
I didn't even see this but apparently More tie
-ins for DCA you people the javelins were briefly
seen in the watchtower. I totally missed those
Yeah, I saw the invisible jet, but I didn't see
the javelins off to go back and watch it Well
watch it Getting into the box office here crisis
on two earths made a gross of Five million three
hundred thousand dollars. It's sold three hundred
and fifty eight thousand three hundred nineteen
units So it made pretty good money still nothing
at this point is gonna touch that shitty doomsday
movie again People love shitty movies Yeah, then
didn't that the other one The other shitty one
make pretty good money too Eight million. Yes.
Yeah for Gotham Knight. Yeah. Yeah, and then
the other shitty one did pretty good, too But
yeah, this is this one definitely was the best
one so far I mean in my opinion this is this
is you know, this one actually topples what was
once the best one Wonder Woman this one topples
that I mean because I Wonder Woman was great,
but this is this is so much of a So much of a,
you know, as great as Wonder Woman is, this is
much better. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. I
mean, Wonder Woman is great as a single, like,
OK, you've had three movies so far with the big
three. You've had Doomsday, Gotham Knight, which
both suck. And then you had Wonder Woman, which
was really, really awesome and great. As far
as the two team up movies so far, you've got
New Frontier and then you've got this. No, you
forgot another team up movie. the shitty one,
the turd polish. Well, we haven't done that one.
No, no, no. That's different. I mean, Justice
League team -up movies. Okay, okay, you have
to clarify. Right. You had New Frontier and then
you have this, and of course, the singular team
-up movie of Superman and Batman, Public Enemies,
which the Ecast Radio Network does not support
the opinion of Ben Carver on that movie because
that movie was awesome. Yes. We're not going
to talk about that movie again, and they sent
you the comics. You're the one that brought it
up. You're the one that brought it up. Exactly.
Anyways, this one, I like New Frontier for what
it is, but this one, because it is so close to
DCAU stuff, I love this even more. And this is,
at this point, my new number one favorite out
of all the ones that they've done. What about
you, Steve? Any other? Stuff you want to bring
up? Um, I would definitely rank it very high
among the DC Universe movies I wouldn't put it
at my number one spot because of what's coming
up in the episode Thus far thus far we go by
thus far. Yeah. Yeah, but thus far I would have
to say it's the best one and I still claim that
second for me is public enemies, but That's that's
a different topic. But anyways, uh No, the whole
movie does stand on its own So I mean that's
that's a nice thing about it and I just love
the the constant brawling in it if that's just
my favorite part is the fact that you've got
that and then Batman still the only one that
still has a freaking clue what's going on? the
only slow scenes and I don't mean slow as far
as Boring scenes, but like slowly slow paced
scenes Are the scenes with the president and
the scenes between John and and the president's
daughter? The rest of this movie is non -stop
action. Well, the interesting thing is the president's
daughter rose I mean the they were making a joke
about that because in because in all other standard
continuities Deathstroke's daughter is also a
villain a villainous named Ravager and she tore
out her own eye to be like her father and stuff
happened and yeah I got a vibe of, um... Oh,
what's that Stallone movie with Sandra Bullock?
Uh, I got a Demolition Man vibe. With John and
Rose. Are you saying they had sex in the car?
They had sex with their minds, dammit. Alright,
so we are the IGN replacement crew 024. Neil,
what do you give it? I'll give it a four. Ben?
Definitely a four. This is one I own and I don't
regret it for one moment. Steve? I'll also give
it a four. Yes, I give it a four as well and
as far as the DVD release and all that stuff
it is on DVD. Single disc, double disc, it's
on Blu -ray I believe. The 2Disc Special Edition
also includes an animated short featuring the
Spectre, which we really haven't talked about
the animated shorts too much with the films.
Was this the first one that started the animated
shorts, or was there one on Wonder Woman? I think
that's the first one that started the shorts.
This was the first one? Okay. So from here on
out, when we talk about the DVD release stuff
on Tooncast Beyond Animation and Fishnado's Crossover,
we will mention the shorts. The specter isn't
a character. I ever really knew I liked the short.
It was good. It was very gritty Yeah, and the
specter short was was interesting but at the
same time no one who really this this really
wasn't an apt introduction to the specter to
people that might be interested in this is more
of a shout out to the specter fans, right because
Because it's because it really doesn't have a
superhero feel to it. I mean that this was this
was almost a straight up golden age story, you
know, it almost felt like something from from
from, you know, LA confidential Hollywood land
or something. Yeah, yeah. And the other thing
is we mentioned earlier that, as I mentioned
about Bruce, Tim and a better world, a better
world both parts. are on here as well for the
two disc edition. So I think we're going to take
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we are back in I think we've pretty much already
settled our final thoughts, but I'll go around
the room again. Neil? Well, you know, this movie
was awesome because not only did it have Wonder
Woman, but it hit Superwoman. So the perv in
me gives it two thumbs up. Yeah, it had Superwoman
voiced by Jasmine. And oh my God, was that awesome?
I was surprised that Superwoman didn't start
eating people or absorbing people. to be some
sort of demon wench. Only fans of Angel will
get this reference. Gina Torres as Superwoman,
just amazing. Ben, what about you? This was definitely
a great movie. I say, number one, Christmas is
coming up. If you don't have any friends that
don't have it, this makes a great stocking stuffer.
You know do it, you know, make sure that you
get a couple more copies of this sold so that
way you can be thrown the doomsday Steve final
thought definitely a must -own. That's all I'm
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