Spider-Man: The Animated Series Season 5 Review

Hello folks and welcome to episode 74 of ToonCast

Beyond. I'm of course TioTio and Mike. Joining

me once again is Eduardo. Hello sir. How you

doing sir? Pretty good, pretty good. And we polish

off the Spider -Man cup - I'm going to redo that.

What the hell? You ass! Beyond good, beyond evil,

beyond your wildest imagination. Who amongst

you has ever wanted to give up their superpowers?

I have. Because I've learned time and time again

that with great power, there must also come great

responsibility. Take two. Hello and welcome to

ToonCast Beyond, episode 74. I am, of course,

TF2 and Mike, and joining me once again, possibly

for the last time, is that asshat, Eduardo. Wait,

am I Eduardo or am I his clone? Have you actually

been recording with the clone all along? Okay,

Ben Reilly. Spider carnage. All right. So we

are here. This is the last episode of Spider

-Man, the animated series, the 1994 classic animated

cartoon season five. This is a 13 episode season.

Thank God for that. And this season really does

fit. Well, I know last week I said it kind of

didn't. In between Season 4 and Season 5, I felt

that they really didn't fit all that much. But

I look at the wedding as kind of like a one -off

at this point now. I mean, it does tie, but we've

got the Six Forgotten Warriors four -parter after

that, or five -parter. I love the fact that they

did Six Forgotten Warriors. I thought that was

great. Oh yeah. No, I, the six forgot. See, this

is the thing. I mean, I've, I've been a Marvel

zombie since well before. Yeah. Well, basically

since forever before X -Men, the animated series

before Spider -Man. And I, I ate up, um, the

Marvel handbooks. So reading those things, uh,

reading all this Marvel history and then six

forgotten warriors, the fact that they actually.

pulled out some obscure characters for this i

was in heaven i was like oh my god this is so

cool absolutely it really really is um and the

fact that paul winfield is the voice of the black

marvel oh yeah that is a paul winfield his he

is another one of those people who has a voice

that you instantaneously remember even After

this, I'm like, you know, I think it was on A

&E. It might have been on another network. But,

you know, all those crime shows that they have

on, not the reality, not Duck Dynasty and all

that bullshit. Like, City Confidential is one

of the ones that I think A &E had. It was on

one of those networks. And he was the narrator

for it. And I remember a few, you know, a good

five, six years ago now, I'm like, hey. Seeing

reruns of that, I'm like, hey, it's the Black

Marvel. It's Paul Winfield. Awesome. I always

remember him as Captain Terrell from Wrath of

Khan. Having him be the Black Marvel and actually

manage to get through the adventure without getting

things in his ears, that's cool to see. Absolutely.

Um, the other thing about this, um, about this

season is we end up, uh, you know, kind of wrapping

it up in a nice little bow, but leaving us with

a cliffhanger at the end. Yeah. Yeah. I got,

I think when we, when we get, yeah, I mean, I,

well, is it too early to talk about that or?

Yeah, it's, we got to talk about some of the

other ones first. Yeah. Again, I said this last

episode, but I have thoughts about that. Once

again, like I mentioned last week, I wish I had

gotten a hold of John Semper Jr. to take part

in his Indiegogo from a couple of years ago.

I do love the Six Forgotten Warriors five -parter.

I think that was very well done. And then we

have Return of Hydro Man, where we find out that

scientist Miles Warren has cloned... This isn't

even the real Hydro Man. This is a production

line copy. Not a fan of Miles Warren, are you?

No, it's not. Okay. All right. How do I put this?

How do I put this? How do I put this in a way

that will not have me going into nerd rage? Okay.

I've got no problem with Miles Warren, the character.

Where I have a problem is, yeah, what is the

fact that this was. This was one of the moments

during the season where they decided to acknowledge

what was going on in the comics at the time,

which was the giant flaming deluxe edition bag

of clusterfuck, excuse my language, that was

the Clone Saga. Yes. The thing where it's like,

just when you, it's like, it felt like just every,

it's like. bad enough you know bad enough that

okay let's bring the jackal back to life okay

let's bring the spider clone back to life let's

basically tell fans that the spider -man they've

been reading for 25 years is not the real spidey

let's you know and it just kept building on and

on and on and you know oh let's bring back the

green goblin and you know somehow make something

up to explain he's the real mastermind behind

everything it's just It's just banging head against

the wall and going, just stop, stop, stop, stop,

stop, stop, just stop. We're begging you, stop.

So it's like, yeah, the minute I heard Dr. Miles

Warren, I'm like, oh, God, no. Oh, God, no, no,

no, God, no, no, no, no. The only good thing

about this two -parter for me is two things.

It gives Mary Jane a little bit more. Kind of

continuity to her. Even though we find out she

is also. She's basically. A water clone. Water

baby Mary Jane. What I was going to say was.

She's basically. She's Eve. To Hydro Man's Adam.

Essentially. That's what he does. He redid. He

cloned. The original Hydro Man. And then he took

a sample of that and then made the Mary Jane

clone because when he cloned the Hydra man, he

didn't just get all the powers and the physique.

He got the personality and he got the obsessiveness

and everything. So essentially they pulled an

Adam and Eve here. You know, next thing you know,

okay, everybody out of the pool. Yeah. You know.

Oh, geez. Yeah. The other thing I liked about

the Hydro Man thing is obviously because it is

Hydro Man, you have Rob Paulson returning to

the voice, so that's nice. Again, it just...

The ending to this is... And everyone says this,

the best thing about that episode is the ending.

No, no, no, no, no. Nope, I'm gonna... I just...

No. What? No, no. I'm sorry. The ending is Madam

Web taking Spidey to go take his test. Well,

yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, we got the setup

for Secret Wars, but we had to have, once again,

angst. Angst. Guess what? Your wife was a water

clone baby, and now she's gone. oh, but wait,

you can't, you know, you can't freak out about

it now because we got a, you know, we got this

big cosmic test for you. It's like, wow. Jeez.

Ugh. Oh, jeez. But yeah, it's just, wow, you

know, give the guy a break. It's like, yeah,

yep, yep, your life seems to be going great because

hey! your best girl's back, and you revealed

your identity to her, and she still loves you,

and you got married, and oh, nope, sorry, water

baby clone, sorry, sorry, your life is in the

poop hole. You know what the sad thing is? This

episode, this two -parter was released October

24th and October 31st of 1997. Two years prior

to this is when the classic TLC song, Waterfalls,

came out. And that's going right here, folks.

TLC, Waterfalls, coming up next here on TLC.

Thank you. Spice Girls to become one. Spice Girls

song that I will listen to like repeatedly and

no don't ruin it for me please. Don't do that.

Don't do that. Don't do that. That's what you

get. That's my revenge right there for that tweet

earlier you jackass. All right, folks. Now we're

going to get into Secret and Spider -War. Secret

Wars. I had never read the – I still have not

read the original Secret Wars thing. I know Marvel

– I know I have to. I know Marvel tried to redo

it a couple of years ago or something. Yeah,

they tried to do like a spiritual kind of sequel

to it. And really it was just an excuse to play

greatest hits. It's like, hey, remember Inferno?

Wasn't Inferno cool? Yeah, yeah, you remember

Inferno? Well, look, here's an alternate universe

where Inferno never ended. Hey, hey, remember

Civil War? Wasn't Civil War cool? Oh, look, here's

an alternate universe based on how that could

have ended. Oh, remember the animated X -Men

series? Remember how cool it was? Well, look,

here's a universe where, look, it's still going

on. See, see, it's all this cool stuff, remember?

Remember how cool it was? That was Secret Wars.

I mean, DC did the same thing where it's just

pulling stuff out like, hey, remember Earth 2

where it had the JSA and they were in World War

2? Yeah, yeah. Remember Batman in the 90s? The

only Batman in the 90s that matters was Batman

the Animated Series. Anyway. And Batman Beyond,

but that was the tail end of the 90s. Alright,

so Secret Wars, basically this is the big test

that Madame Rat... Wow, Madam Raz. Holy crap.

Where's the broom when you really need it? Holy

shit. How did I cross... I was going to say,

how did I cross Masters of the Universe characters

with Marvel characters? Oh my god. Wow. So Madam

Web brings Spider -Man to another dimension where

he's brought before being known as the Beyonder.

And the Beyonder sets up the whole thing. He,

you know, villains like Doc Ock and Doctor Doom

and Smythe and the Lizard and the Red Skull.

And it's up to Spider -Man to lead a team of

ragtag misfits like Captain America, Storm, the

Fantastic Four, and Iron Man to victory. Yay.

And of course, guess what Iron Man gets to do?

He gets to sit out on the bench half the time

because his suit is dead. Yeah. I don't know.

Well, see, yeah, I read the original Secret Wars.

In fact, actually, as we record this, I just

have to turn around and face one of the walls

in my home office, and there's the trade paperback

right there, lovingly on my shelf, sandwiched

between Legion of Superheroes, The Great Darkness

Saga, and the Alex Ross Kurt Busiek miniseries,

Marvels. But, yeah, it is, I mean, it deserves,

the original comic series deserves its respect.

I mean, it was a great 12 -issue miniseries.

They managed to have an epic story that really

was able to be on its own just because of the

setup. So you didn't have to worry about, oh,

crap, I didn't get this month's X -Men. I'm going

to be so lost. See, that's why I like collecting

comics and trade, whether it's physical or digital,

because at least in the trades, you know, okay,

I've got all these issues or all these, you know,

these go to all these, this story, these go to

all, and it's just in one place. Yeah, and well,

plus, you know, in the 80s, it was a little easier

to be able to collect a big storyline because

they kept all the stuff that you needed to know

in, like, the main book. And then everything

else was kind of peripheral. So you could kind

of get like, oh, if you wanted to see this battle,

but from Spider -Man's perspective, you pick

up the Spider -Man issue or, you know, things

like that. Or, oh, what was Daredevil doing when

Spider -Man disappeared? Oh, pick this up. You

know, that was kind of how Secret Wars was. The

only tie -ins that they really had to the main

series was one issue where the heroes that took

part kind of got collected. And then another

issue where they came home and it's like, wow,

you're not going to believe what just happened

to us. So, you know, so, yeah, you didn't have

to worry about, you know, you pick up, you know,

picking up an issue of Spider -Man and being

like, where's Peter? You know, and having like

a little blurb saying, if you want to find out

where Peter is, pick up Secret Wars number one

on sale this month. Yeah, they still do that,

though. I mean, they've been doing that for 70

plus years. Hell, it's probably 80 years now.

Yeah, but if I have any real... One of the things

with Secret Wars, I know that they wanted to

have more of the X -Men, but they couldn't get

everybody. I think part of it was a location

issue. Yeah. The other thing is, I don't know,

I guess they had a limited budget to play with

or anything, but I kind of would have wanted...

You had all these heroes. And then they just

picked like four villains out, technically five,

although because the lizard, you know, you had

Connors in the driver's seat. I won't count him

as a bad guy, but you had four big bad guys,

and I was kind of hoping for more bad guys to

get kind of pulled out to take part in this because

that was one of the big things about the original

Secret Wars is you had this army of heroes versus

this army of villains. winner takes all. And

it was kind of cool to see the two armies like

going at it, you know, it's so not having that

here was like, ah, this is awesome. But, you

know, so I, again, I kind of had to wonder if

it was like, I know they wanted to use Hulk,

but Hulk was on UPN. So it was like, we're not

promoting another networks cartoon show. Hell

no. So, you know, that that's why we have the

Connors, the Connors brain lizard. But, you know,

I mean, I think Spidey's got enough bad guys

that they could have, you know, had them. I mean,

even if you couldn't get the actors to come back,

you know, just at least like a silent cameo or

something so we can see them, like, engaging

in battle with Iron Man and Storm or, you know,

the Fantastic Four. Yeah, absolutely. I like

the Secret War 3 part that they did here. I think

it's interesting. Obviously for me, as everyone's

known in the last three or four or five episodes,

as soon as the black cat comes in, the claws

come out. Because Spidey, well, what was it?

Connor's got injured, so they had to replace

a member of the team, and that's when he's like,

oh, well, Mary Jane's off somewhere, and she's

not really a superhero, so bring my... Bring

me my side dish, please. Yeah. Of course, then

you get side dish flirting with Captain America,

and it's like, ah, damn it. Oh, damn it. More

angst. Yeah, I brought her in, and she's hooked

up with the captain of the football team. Damn

it. Damn it. But then, you know, she does turn

around, and, you know. Does her little wink and

smile and all the sly things that Black Cat does

and basically twists Spidey around her finger

again and whatever else. And she says, oh, it

wasn't Captain America I came for. It was you.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So is it just me?

Oh, first of all, have you seen the new Riverdale

series on CW? No. Are you an Archie fan? Because

I know of the Archie universe, but I've never

actually read any of the books. But I know of

the characters. Honestly, I'm familiar with the

Archie universe. Never been a huge reader of

Archie comics. The whole idea behind Riverdale,

I'm like, okay, alright. If you really want,

sure. I've seen the first episode because I think

they did the first two episodes as one whole

big thing or whatever it's on. Yeah, two hour.

Yeah, whatever. The only reason why I was interested

to even watch it, and this is so sad. I know

that, folks. And I'm coming back around to Black

Cat and Spidey, folks. Black Cat, Spidey, and

Mary Jane. So just go with it here for a minute.

You already know where this is going. So the

only reason why I wanted to watch the new CW

series Riverdale at first was because technically

it's the return of Cole Sprouse. I had not seen

him in anything since The Suite Life on deck

because he and his brother went off to college

and did real life stuff and kind of left acting.

So when I saw him cast as Jughead, I'm like,

oh, cool. And it's him narrating the story. And

I think it's pretty funny, but... obviously the

whole thing, Archie, Betty, and Veronica. And,

you know, of course, as soon as you hear that,

you hear, you know, Brody, or not Brody in your

head, you hear Banky in your head from Chasing

Amy. He couldn't choose between both of them

jackholes. He wanted the, he couldn't choose

between either one because he wanted them both

at the same time, you jackholes and everything

else and whatever. You look at Spidey in this

series and even though MJ's, you know, often

some alternate whatever, Spidey is Archie. MJ

is Betty and black cat is Veronica. Huh? And

I think I just broke his brain. Well, no, actually,

no, you didn't break my brain. I'm actually thinking,

you know, actually, um, that could work that,

you know, he may. He may be on to something.

He may be... Yeah, he might be... By Jove, he

may be right. So in the end of Spider Wars...

Damn it, that's the last part. In the end of

Secret Wars, apparently this was a test to prepare

him for the real test. So this is kind of like

those practice tests before school, before you

have to take the big seven -hour test. This is

the 30 -minute practice. Because we end the series

with Spider Wars, Chapter 1, I really, really

hate clones, and Chapter 2, Farewell Spider -Man.

I love this. I think these two episodes are awesome.

I can always go back and watch these. So fun.

just absolutely dig them we finally get gwen

stacy after four years of the series or five

almost five years of the series yeah well and

and i gotta give i gotta give uh i gotta give

the writing team credit i love the title of the

episode i love the title of the first episode

yeah because it it's a great it's it's just such

a fun bit of meta A fun bit of meta, you know,

metafiction, because that title pretty much reflects

a lot of people's opinions at this time. It's

like, yeah, I hate clones. I think especially

after we found out about Water Baby Mary Jane,

it's like, yeah, yeah, I know. Know what the

clones. Oh, man. But I. I do have to give, you

know, this is one of the things where I got to

give Christopher Daniel Barnes. I got to give

him kudos because he's, for like, for five seasons,

he's done such a great job as Spider -Man. And

it's really cool to see him in these episodes

playing like a, you know, basically playing a

Spider -Man who's just like, you know what? to

hell with this crap you know i i you know i i

saved the world how many times you know i i did

i fought the good fight and then when it came

time to be like oh i'm gonna do you know i'm

gonna you know do some you know just seeing him

be like all these different spider -man the first

of all the the uh the the evil spider -man the

spider spider carnage one yeah and um You know,

just seeing him like just seeing him basically

being like, OK, you know what? What you know

what? You know, just like, OK, I'm tired of this.

I, you know. Forget with great power comes great

responsibility. I just feel like. You know, I'm

just going to destroy the universe because what

did it do for me? And, you know, just that whole

thing was just really cool. I mean, and then

you and then the the the iron spider. You know,

the getting kind of sort of getting Ben Reilly.

Well, we did get a version of Ben Reilly, and

he is the Scarlet Spider, so... Yeah, and it's

the hoodie outfit. Yeah. The hoodie outfit, which

was... That's always fun. Yeah. I think also

just the... To me, you know, that whole thing,

and then... And then I like that they had, one

of the Spider -Men was actually an actor who

played Spider -Man. Yeah. And I like how in the

second episode, in the series finale, that there

was a payoff to that. Oh, absolutely. That there

was a reason behind that. Yeah. I've seen these

two episodes upon millions upon millions of times.

I know I'm exaggerating with that, but, you know.

I always knew, obviously not before the episode

aired, but I always knew after the fact that,

oh, hey, they're like, why is he here? He's not

really Spider -Man. He's not this. Oh, sure he

is. He's just Spider -Man in a different universe,

in a different way. The fact that you had Spider

-Man interacting with his creator. Oh, yeah.

You know, I mean. And see, it's, yeah, that was

a beautiful moment. It really was. I mean, that's,

I think that's almost right up there with stuff

like, for example, the scene between Dr. McCoy

and Data in Encounter at Farpoint or, you know,

or things like that. Yeah. And it's one of those

things where, you know. Spider -Man, our Spider

-Man, our universe Spider -Man, Peter Parker,

finally gets, technically, he finally gets his

comeuppance. He finally gets that people adore

him and cherish him, and it's from what Stan

is doing. And, of course, the very end. I mean,

you know, no, okay, well, not the very, very,

not the very last, not when they're flying away

through the dimensional portal, but right before

that when... when she shows up and he's like,

who is that magnificent? Oh, that's, that's my

ride. You know? And she's like, you know, he's

like, Oh, that's Stanley. He's, you know, this,

this, and this. And she's like, yes, I happen

to think I haven't. Because hello, they're married.

It's Stan and Joan Lee. You know, I thought like,

I don't know. Cause I, I've got spectacular Spider

-Man. through a certain source of mine. So at

some point in the future, not anytime soon, because

we need to do other stuff other than superhero

stuff. So there's going to be about 20 podcasts

before we go back to superheroes. And when we

go back to superheroes, we'll be celebrating

25 years of X -Men TAS. So we got to finish seasons

two through five of that series, but that's later

on in the year. But it's just one of those things

where I don't know if any other Spider -Man series

to date. Has ever really had them. Together.

Like that. Paying each other compliments. As

husband and wife. And just being able. Anyone

can say what they want. About John Semper Junior.

About the series. About the animation. I love

these stories. Like I said in season 2 and 3.

As I was watching through those. For doing these

podcast episodes. I almost didn't have to because

as soon as I started, I'm like, oh, I remember

that. I remember that. I remember that. It's

just because this series at 14 years old had

a huge impact on me. This basically took me through

my teen years, 14 to 18. This and X -Men and

to somewhat lesser extent, Iron Man and to somewhat

of an even lesser extent, hulk and silver surfer

and all that stuff and fantastic four no sorry

that's that's a bad movie joke folks um but no

spider -man animated series 1994 absolutely loved

it thought it was great uh any final thought

go ahead well i you know i did uh i did say i'd

save this for later but oh the ending Yeah, see,

the ending, yeah, we get, well, we get this very

touching thing between Spidey and Stan Lee, and,

you know, we have Stan Lee and his wife even

get to interact. But then, of course, you have,

you know, Madam Web saying, okay, guess what?

You've saved the universe. Time for your reward.

Jump on board my chair thingy, my, you know,

my Marvel version of the Mobius chair. We're

going to go find Mary Jane. I know where she

is. See, I can't help but feel. I can't help

but wonder. Is it something where... I've heard

that John Semper Jr. did have an idea for rescuing

Mary Jane. That he did have ideas for season

six, but that the powers that be were like, no,

you're done. I don't know. I keep getting this

this vibe that says, you know, that tells me

that what happened was, you know, they they had

an idea. They wanted to get Mary Jane back. They

wanted to have, you know, they want to have Mary

Jane back. And, you know, they had a they had

a they had a plan. But what happened was, you

know, the powers that be were like, no, you're

done. So what we end up getting is the, you know,

we got the finale that we did where, yeah, it

kind of ends in a cliffhanger because Spidey's

going off to rescue his lady love. But that,

you know, they put in the Stan Lee stuff so that,

well, if this is it, if this is our last hurrah,

let's at least go out with a bang. You know,

with like this awesome moment paying tribute

to Stan the man. So, you know, it just feels

to me like, oh, you know, things would have like

if things would have been different if, you know,

Fox or Saban or whoever, like whoever brought

the hammer down and said, OK, no, pack everything

up. You know, we're, you know, pack everything

up. This is, you know, we're not doing any more

episodes as of Monday that maybe we would have,

you know, maybe these episodes would have been

different. Right. Like, I kind of wonder if maybe

we would have gotten. And again, you know, I

don't want to shoot myself in the foot here,

but I may contact John and see if he's willing

to share that script thing from the GoFundMe

for War of the Rocketmen. Because, you know,

and I have no problems, you know, if he says,

yeah, sure, but, you know, it'll be... I have

absolutely no problem shooting the guy $10, $20

just to know the fate of Spider -Man and Mary

Jane. You know what I mean? They brought out

an animated series called Spider -Man Unlimited.

And for the briefest second, I was like, oh,

is this what it's going to be? Spider -Man's

adventures in the other dimension rescuing Mary

Jane. And then it turned out to be something

entirely different. And I'm just like, oh. Damn!

For just the briefest of moments, I was like,

oh, okay, we'll finally get the answer. No, but

actually took place before or something like

that. I don't even know if it's supposed to be

the same universe at this point. It does take

place during... this series at some point, but

it's pretty much... Yeah. It was developed by

Michael Reeves and Will Mignot. It was written

by Larry Brody, Robert Gregory Brown, Bryn Chandler,

and Michael Reeves. Voices of Rare. They try

to tie it into John Semper Junior's stuff. Like,

Jennifer Hale is Lady Vermin in that, and she's

supposedly supposed to be like... the black cat

of that universe and really is is not um you

know and it only had 13 episodes it only has

one season so yeah yeah um and it's not bad on

its own but it focuses on J. Jonah Jameson's

son, John, and his one -man mission to counter

Earth. Yeah. You know, so it... And it does,

I believe, does it have... John Jameson, does

it have J... Does it have J .J.? If it did, probably

like the first episode or so. Yeah, but I'm saying

that... Oh, no, he was voiced by Richard. He

was voiced by Rhinox, of all people. Okay, then.

Okay. And then Mary Jane was voiced by Jennifer

Hale, but also Jennifer Hale voiced Lady Vermin

as well. I don't know. Spider -Man Unlimited,

it's okay. I like the suit in that series. I

think the suit in that series is awesome. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know. You know, one thing, if I

could actually sit down with Dan Slott, I would

want to ask him if he watched the 90s Spider

-Man animated series, because he did do something

before we had the Secret Wars comic a couple

of years ago. There was something called Spider

-Verse. which was all these Spider -Man from

different dimensions teaming up. I mean, not

quite to face a deranged Spider -Man who wanted

to blow up the universe, but yeah, they all had

to team up to fight this menace. And I kind of

have to wonder if he was inspired by the animated

series, by these last two episodes. Because it

has that same sort of feel in the sense that,

oh, you know... putting together all these Spider

-Men. Yeah, I always wanted to read the Spider

-Verse stuff. I just never got around to it.

Once again, trying to figure out what comics

to do when and what's piquing your interest and

blah, blah, blah. It's kind of hard to deal with.

With all that at once. Yeah. And yeah. But Spider

-Man 1994, I still love it. Like I said before,

I think it's an amazing series. The animation

is solid. The voice acting is incredible. The

stories are engaging. So yeah. Any other final

thoughts from you? No, I got to agree with you.

I got to agree with you. The animated series,

it set the bar in a lot of ways. Voice acting,

the fact that they brought over some classic

stories and adapted them to TV. In some cases,

really interesting because they managed to condense

it into like one or two episodes. But yeah, definitely.

I mean, it deserves... It deserves a lot of love.

You know, I think I said this a couple of episodes

ago. I would love now that Marvel, Disney and

Sony are like breaking bread together and sharing

Spider -Man. I would just love to see a release

of like a Blu -ray DVD set with all five seasons

and give it like a really, really good, you know,

release with like. interviews and commentary

and stuff like that. I really would love to see

something like that. Yeah, that would be great,

but Disney owns Marvel now, and as we already

said, with the X -Men series thing that they

released before Disney bought Marvel, that didn't

exactly go too well, because that was just a

bare -bones DVD. Yeah, I don't know. I would

love that as well. I really, really would, but

I just don't think it's going to happen, sadly.

Which really sucks. Well, I mean, one can hope.

One can hope, and one can hope that, again, since

Disney and... Since Disney and Sony are now breaking

bread over Spider -Man, that we'll hopefully

get something like that. Because I would just

love to see that. I would too. I would too, absolutely.

Alright, folks. That's going to do it for us

here on ToonCast Beyond. You can catch us next

time in episode 75 when we will... A few other

people. I don't know who yet. It's either going

to be myself and one other person or myself and

two other people. We're going to get in touch

with our emotions because we're going to turn

this podcast inside out. And cue Eve 6. Wow,

I have so much music to put in this podcast now.

Oh, my God. Uh -huh. See what happens, you know?

Let's see. TLCs, Spice Girls, and Eve 6. Wow,

that's a whole 90s trifecta right there. He's

just shaking his head over there, folks. I can

tell. He's just shaking his head. Actually, you're

wrong. I'm facepalming you. One of the two. Oh,

Lord. It's been a giant facepalm. Where can the

people find you online, sir? Once again, I'm

on Facebook, and I'm on Twitter at WhiteBalloonKing,

W -H -T -B -L -L -N -K -I -N -G. Awesome. You

can find me at TF2 and Mike. Follow at GeekCastRadio

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Beyond Evil, Beyond Your Wildest Imagination,

Tooncast Beyond. We'll be back next week as we

turn the podcast inside out. Way to go, boss.

You did well, Spider -Man. I am proud of you.

The others can go home, but there is one more

place that you must visit. Where to now? I think

she means my reality. What am I going to find

there? More than you can ever imagine. I don't

believe what you're telling me. In your reality,

I'm a character in fiction? Yep, and I'm an actor

who plays you on TV. But there's someone here

I knew you had to meet. He's the man who created

you for fans all over the world. And I said to

Jack, what if his skin turns green? Excuse me.

I'm looking for some guy named Stan Lee. What?

Spider -Man? Uh, Pam, hold my calls for a while.

I think I've finally gone crazy. Oh, man! Wow!

You know, Spidey, I've always wanted to experience

real web -slinging. And I've always wanted to

be appreciated as a real hero. It seems you've

made me into one. Thanks. Hey. Don't mention

it. After saving all of reality, where do you

go from here? To find Mary Jane. My Mary Jane.

I've been told she's still alive. I can't wait

to see her. You know, for so long, I've thought

that I never got any breaks. But now, after all

I've been through, for once, I like my life.

I like myself. And for the first time ever, I

wouldn't want to change anything about me. Gee.

You're definitely not the same guy I've been

writing about all these years. Well, Stan, we

all have to grow up sometime, I suppose. Even

us characters of fiction. Spider -Man, it's time

to go. Who is that exotic lady? Oh, her? She's

my ride. It's been great meeting you. Take care

of yourself. You too, Spider -Man. Farewell and

good luck. Wow. I wonder how I'm supposed to

get down from here. I suppose I could wait for

the Fantastic Four to drop by and give me a lift.

That Stan Lee, he's quite a guy. I think he's

truly special. Well, Madam Webb, where to now?

Face front, true believer. We are going to find

the real Mary Jane Watson. What? It has been

a long, hard journey. And I think you are finally

entitled to some happiness. Amen to that, dear

lady. Amen to that.