Chuck Jones Animation Direction

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Wabbit season. How are we gonna keep going with

this? well god we could do that for an hour i

think one of my favorite okay so in this final

episode folks we're gonna be talking about the

man the myth the legend the awesome mister chuck

jones uh... his trilogy of uh... rabbit duck

season cartoons you have duck rabbit duck you

have rabbit seasoning and you have rabbit fire

i think rabbit fire is my favorite but the other

two have so many great lines in them in rabbit

seasoning it's the one where it's the one where

at one point in the cartoon bugs dresses up like

he is known to do And Daffy comes up to me, he's

like, out of sheer honesty, don't you have anything

to say? Hmm? Out of sheer honesty, yes, I would

just love a duck dinner, bam! You know, just...

And in Duck Rabbit Duck, it's... Oh God, it's...

Would you like to shoot me now or wait till you

get home? No, that's rabbit season. Oh, okay.

That's where I was in duck rabbit duck. It's

um That's the one where it's like the multiple

seasons. It's like it's it's fiddler crab season.

No, it's Just a parboiled minute here But yeah

duck rabbit duck is is the multiple seasons and

by the end of it Daffy just goes ape shit and

it's like It's this season. It's that season

and I believe I'm not looking at the the credits

on that I believe that was Carl stalling on the

music for that one. I could be wrong I'm not

laced. I'm not looking at any information right

now Yes, but if it was him the whole every time

bugs puts a sign up that It's like oh my god.

This is the best musical key to go with the side

ever So awesome, um, I There's only I I love

Chuck Jones and I love his Looney Tunes stuff

And we'll talk about Tom and Jerry later, but

just starting with Looney Tunes. I think the

Only Roadrunner cartoon that really cracks me

up like the only ones that really make me laugh

anymore as an adult Are the ones that he does

and he did one called soup or sonic? so so up

or sonic and in this The coyote chases the Roadrunner

into this giant pipe and they come out really

really tiny So the coyote stops He just taps

his foot and he's like... He whistles at the

roadrunner, because let's face it, by this time

the Coyote couldn't talk. We'll talk about that

later. He whistles at me, he motions like, ugh,

come on. And they go back through the same pipe,

except it doesn't have the same effect. The Coyote

is still small and Roadrunner grew back to normal

size so the Coyote jumps over his feet. He goes

back and he realizes and he hugs the Roadrunner's

leg and he just looks up. and you get this giant

me you know sound effect in at the end of it

is like he holds up a sign he says all right

wise guys you always wanted me to catch him he

sold of the second side now what do i do uh...

uh... uh... yet there are uh... quite a number

of roadrunner cartoons that chuck jones did not

do in they're pretty much instantly recognizable

as the ones where other The Coyote makes a bunch

of derp faces because Chuck Jones owns the face.

He has so many ways to make it expressive in

all the most hilariously subtle ways. And yeah,

you could tell when it's not him just by how

many several steps down it is in terms of creativity.

And then sadly the because it was the same character

model, but sadly some of the Sam the dog and

and Ralph the the wolf in the in the sheep cartoons

My god Those are poor ass coyote drawings. Yeah

in some of those I Never under like I understand

those cartoons, but I never really got the whole

lake It's a coyote and it's it's the coyote and

he wants something to eat. He wants sheep to

eat and it's but I still never Other than you

know, just having it be funny, you know, right?

But I still never got the whole purpose of the

actual jokes behind those but It did enjoy them

Chuck Jones has a massive Massive body of work

You know pretty much Even in the music even when

stalling or whoever was doing the music at the

time for Looney Tunes You could always tell even

before you saw his name you could just tell in

the title or And even if you hadn't watched him

in in so long You could always tell do you remember

the very first Chuck Jones cartoon you ever saw?

Oh, I have no idea, because there's such a body

of work that he's done. Even if we narrowed it

down to just the Looney Tunes, I couldn't tell

which one I saw first. Wait, why does IMDB have

him as a credit on Mrs. Doubtfire? What the hell?

He's done some movie work. As long as we're on

that topic. Oh, he was the animation supervisor.

Yeah, he's made cameos in movies like Gremlins.

I know he's done animated bits for movies. I

think he did something for Gremlins too. I didn't

check it out before the show though. It says

here, opening and closing animation sequences.

He was an animation consultant on Who Framed

Roger Rabbit. He was the director of original

animation for Looney Tunes 50th Anniversary TV

movie in 86. Oh my god, he did a chipmunk Christmas.

Yep As a character does as a character designer

Yeah, totally random thing that he did. It's

like you wouldn't you wouldn't associate that

that particular Thing with Chuck Jones, but yeah,

there there it is There it is And once again,

you could totally tell it's out. Oh, yeah. Well,

you know What you can really tell that it's him

that has nothing to do with Looney Tunes His

heart grew three sizes that day. Oh Man just

the stylings of the like the Grinch is effectively

Daffy Duck. Oh it is Especially that evil smile

that he does when he gets the wickedly awful

idea and this this smile just keeps growing and

growing It just was so so many things and just

so many There was a documentary about him On

in 2001 the Chuck Jones show That's interesting.

Oh, yeah, there was a Chuck Jones show. It was

basically just like the tech savory show or the

show But you know he did a lot of different things

Oh my god, Super Sonic was 1980. I didn't realize

it was only that old. I thought it was older

than that. Huh. Yep. Wow. Yeah, that's right.

He did a few cartoons in the very early 80s when

he came back. Yep. Some of those are better than

others. Yeah. I mean, the man is just... Just

amazing. You really really is one of the very

last cartoons. He did was a Roadrunner cartoon

and Aside from a couple cues in the animation

you you could barely tell that it was a modern

cartoon because he Because he's got he's like

really got the old style theory of coloring and

and and Character design and so it doesn't it

doesn't really Look like the modern cartoons

or modern cartoons are pretty simplified now

But it's still got the Chuck Jones style to it.

So it's very strange I don't remember the name

of that cartoon, but it's very strange to watch

it and think wow This was done in like, you know

the last few years of his life Yeah It yeah,

it's just crazy The I'm trying to see if this

one is shut you up. The one Chuck Jones cartoon,

there have been several, but the one that I absolutely

love has nothing to do with any of the classic

Looney Tunes characters. It is House Hunting

Mice from 1947 with Yubi and Bertie. I love this

one because it's them going into the house of

the future and whatever else. It's them versus

the automatic sweeper. They just want the giant

plate of cheese that's in the kitchen. The reason

why I remember this so well is because I remember

seeing this over and over and over as a kid.

You flashed to 1996 when Space Jam came out.

You flash to the end the big game and The two

of them. Are you ready? Sure sure riot They're

the announcers for the game. Oh The craziest

thing about that scene though is there are two

human announcers that have fallen asleep In that

booth, but this one house hunting mice, oh god

see I i always i never really remembered the

the title of it because i always get it confused

with uh... texas house of tomorrow not the actual

content but the actual title and i thought it

was you know something along those similar same

lines uh... uh... this is one short i can watch

over and over and over again it just is another

one that i found that i absolutely love by chuck

is no barking with with Frisky the dog and Claude

the cat yeah you know if you ever really want

to have one of the cats in Looney Tunes be sympathetic

you know be a sympathetic character watch that

one because poor Frisky Frisky always hands it

to Claude by barking him up a tree or whatever

oh man it's so hilarious Well, what are some

of the ones you love by the Chuck is done specifically

the looney tunes like I said, we'll talk about

Tom and Jerry a little bit later All right the

I Would say well just the one you just mentioned

I like I like the clawed the cat cartoon just

because uh you would He'd like to make his own

characters. I noticed he uh He used clawed the

cat in place of like Sylvester I think I don't

know what his opinion of Sylvester was, but he

didn't seem to gravitate toward that character,

so he made his own. You could tell that the man

had a cat, because Claude is definitely a cat.

He acts like a cat. He's berserk like a cat.

And then there's also the, I always forget the

name of the character, was it Pussy Face or Pussy

Boots or something? It's like the little baby

kitten that Mark Anthony. Oh yes, yes, yeah,

I never knew the name of that cat. Yeah, it's

like, that cat and Marva the Martian were like

the two characters I didn't realize had names,

because you'll never hear the name Marva the

Martian in any of the Looney Tunes shorts. I

used to, I know a buddy of mine out in San Diego,

I do talking about my generation with him, Doug

Abel, he can do a Marva the Martian voice. I

used to be able to. But my Illumina I Let's see

isn't that lovely? Yeah You are about to make

me very angry it's not exact when I was younger

I used to be able to do it a hell of a lot better

Oh God, yeah, there was supposed to be a shattering

kaboom My favorite Marvin the Martian cartoons

is when it's him and canine. Poor canine. I almost

like it more when it's Marvin and Daffy going

up against each other. Really? Yeah, there are

a couple of Marvin and Daffy Duck Cartoon. Oh,

that's right. I had to think about that for a

second. I'm like, yeah Duck Dodger. Yeah No,

no, no, this isn't well. Yeah. Yeah. It was it

was Duck Dodgers cuz it was the one where They

have to go find and and claim for the earth or

Mars planet X for the shaving cream Adam And

that cartoon, I love four gays like happy, you

know, hey happy birthday You you thing from the

world you boom And then they at the end of that

cartoon they rev up these super giant explosion

things and they go off and They just end up hanging

off the the edge of the planet there You know

Marvin really excelled honestly after his heyday

because eventually there would be a duck Dodgers

cartoon series in 2003 and They really added

a hell of a lot to the the whole Martian thing.

I mean hell Cassandra from Wayne's world is the

voice of the Martian Queen I mean you can't go

much more good than that, you know, and that

what that show was a loving homage to the style

of Chuck Oh, absolutely. They went out of their

way to mimic that style. Absolutely. I'm trying

to think if Stupor Duck was his. I don't think

it was. I'm pretty sure it was McKimson. Was

it really? Yeah. I was going to bring that up

because that has Thorol Ravenscroft in it as

the narrator. But but yeah, I mean Chuck Jones

he's just such a great Yeah, you're right it

is McKimson You know such a great presence with

everything that he did Such you know the comedic

timing and I know that more so goes to the writing

But I mean, the comedic timing is just absolutely

hilarious. I just absolutely love, you know,

stuff like Bugs Bunny Gets the Boyd. It's just

so funny because he shows you how to have fun.

with the cartoons that he's doing. And it doesn't

matter what, you know, what, you know, you look

at like Rabbit of Seville or What's Opera Doc?

And it's like Bugs Bunny loves opera? Really?

I just love that he could take the simplest premises

and just run with it. He was like the master

of the running gag and the... And he had a very

burlesque or, yeah, he had kind of the spirit

of burlesque -type comedy where it's just slapstick

and we'll just take the same premise and run

it into the ground. The hunter's after the rabbit

or the mice are trying to get the cheese. Yeah,

the the coyote cartoons the sheepdog cartoons

just very simple premises And he just runs with

it. He just like runs for the end zone with it

every single time even like I had something in

mind. I just lost it Yeah, those yeah, he was

great He really really was And there's so many

nuances in the comedy. It's what makes the Duck

Season, Rabbit Season trilogy so good because

of the comedy between the three characters. And

it's just written so well. Now because of the

writing, I know that he had a different... You

know, each of these directors had a different

unit, and his unit apparently was Michael Maltese,

and we can't talk about Chuck Jones and Looney

Tunes without talking about Mike Maltese because

man, that guy. Wow. I'm not sure exactly how...

I'm not exactly sure how much they collaborated

on ideas or how that was done back then, but...

What was eventually put out for them? It's just

simply amazing. I mean, I think it's rabbit seasoning.

And rabbit seasoning, it starts off with, I don't

know, it's one of them where it starts off with,

you know, are you looking for something to eat?

There's a rabbit, blah, blah, blah, blah. And

it's like, and again, the music from Stalling

and all that's, you know, Carl Stalling and all

that just, it flows so well. um the what's opera

doc that and rabidiceville those are two that

i like them but they're just too musical for

me i don't know what it is about them um i i

do love uh that uh you know at the at the end

of what's opera doc books is like you were expecting

a happy ending I do love that. I like how that

cartoon has permanently cemented Kill the Wabbit

into the vernacular. To the point where anytime

anyone hears Flight of the Valkyries, they automatically

think Kill the Wabbit. Kill the Wabbit, yeah.

Exactly. So awesome. You know, Lightning and

Met, you're... here when it was all your spirit

magic helmets spirit magic helmet magic helmet

magic helmet magic helmet And just it's so funny

how like with rabbit of Seville rabbit of Seville

is the one where he gives Elmer a haircut and

a shave It's like every time I watch that cartoon

now all I can think of is poor Roger What else

with him on Looney Tunes? Oh man, I'm trying

to think. He's had so many cool, so many awesome

cartoons. You just brought up Who Framed Roger

Rabbit. That was actually more of a Tex Avery

homage. The homage that Chuck Jones got was unfortunately

Looney Tunes back in action. I mean that is totally

in the style of Chuck Jones and it's not really

a very good movie. I mean, I kind of like it

better than Space Jam, but... But it's got Brendan

Fraser. Looney Tunes back in action. It's a spoof

on James Bond with the Looney Tunes. That's what

it is. I mean, let's face it. The best gag in

that entire film is when they're jumping through

the paintings. I thought it was kind of funny

when they hopped into the old car and it was

making the the chucking sound from I Thought

that was a nice touch. Yeah, that was pretty

awesome I'm trying to think what else for Chuck

here. Let's see as far as limitations go Damn

I'm trying to think There's just so many things

here uh... they're really are uh... see here

he did uh... see they did all these uh... you

know they they put all these shorts in the shows

later on like the bugs bunny show from sixty

to sixty two it didn't split a star is bored

i remember that as a regular old short um let's

see the mouse on 57th street oh uh what was the

uh let's see baton bunny arabian nights oh god

um oh never mind joining me i'll join you say

hello to friar duck Robin Hood Daffy is amazing.

The direction in it and just the comedy time,

the comedic timing in it and the writing is just

so good. It really, really is. Didn't he do a

hair grows in Manhattan? I don't know I thought

he did I could be wrong But you know, oh Is it

I'm trying to think is it broomstick one of the

witch hazel cartoons he did it's the one where

She has bugs trapped and she's basically barreling

down on him he looks over and you know and he

sees you know in case of emergency break this

and it turns witch hazel into a rabbit and at

the end of it all's bug says is oh sure i know

but they're all witches inside aren't they oh

that is not a politically correct statement in

today's world i think all of the witch hazel

cartoons are his because i remember the uh there's

one where uh he was sitting in for another for

like a for like a for like a old uh uh nursery

rhyme character and the joke was oh yeah it was

Hansel and Gretel and the joke was that every

time someone would say Hansel's name he would

be like Hansel? Hansel? Hansel. I don't remember

If it's his or not, but there's a big ol' Shakespeare

one called a witch's tangled hair. And in that

one they have a joke about wee women drivers.

Silly, I had it in reverse. Oh, that was Levito.

That's right, yeah. That was Abe Levito. But

Maltese was on story. And Chuck Jones and Abe

Levito would have worked together later on as

well. But it just... Yeah, I love the Witch Hazel

cartoons. She was always such a really great

character. Didn't matter who she was going up

against. I mean in that one that you're talking

about about about Hansel and Gretel He shows

up as the truant officer. Yes And then by the

time she has him captured he he puts on these

like doe eyes as you know, basically Glass looking

look on his face and she just starts crumbling

up What's the matter, dearie? You remind me of

George! Who's George? Tarantula! Tarantula! And

he's like, oh, here, drink this. And this is

the one where she has the magic mirror. And it's

the genie in the mirror. And, uh... Oh, because

the... The potion in that tea basically makes

whoever drinks it pretty. And she's so deathly

afraid of becoming pretty. Everything about Chuck

at Looney Tunes was great. It really, really

was. Every time I watch a Chuck Jones cartoon,

I cannot stop laughing. I mean, I'm not gonna

sit here and say he's the best out of all the

Looney Tunes directors There are a lot of really

fun. Like I love baseball bugs, which was I believe

frizzes Yeah, you know, I there are a lot, you

know, I love bugs and thugs, which I think is

McKimson The only reason why I even love bugs

and thug is shut up I know, you know, of course,

I'll shut up. I'm never not one to talk It's

not Fat Tony, that's the Simpsons. Mugsy. Mugsy's

like, shut up, shut nip. So hilarious. His very

first directorial in -between animator thing

was in 1932, something called The Office Boy.

So that was his very first directorial thing

So that's interesting the last thing he did before

his death That would have been that would have

been like a it's the one with with Yosemite Sam

From here to eternity. Yeah, that's it. Yep.

That was 1997 as Oh, no, not stupor duck superior

duck That's what it was. That's why I said thorough

Ravenscroft is in that because Daffy is supposedly

a superhero and tries to show off his superpowers

and oh Wow, it says that this thing stars Wow

Oh my god, no way You know who they had as Daffy

in this? It wasn't Mel. Who was it? The Riddler,

Frank Gorshin. Oh my goodness. Thor Ravenscroft

was the narrator. Eric Goldberg was Marvin the

Martian. Jim Cummings was the Tasmanian devil.

That's kind of obvious. Well, yeah, that would

make sense because this came out when it's when

the Stupor Duck came out. Not Stup - Superior

Duck, I'm sorry. Oh, let me see here. Uh, Superior

Duck. Yeah, that would make sense because came

out in 96 according to IMDB and obviously Mel

was gone by then Yeah Now said the Frank Gorshin

and Thorol Ravenscroft are both gone as well.

Yeah and Was this was that's his first role as

porky I wonder I'm trying to see if this is Bob

Bergen's first role as Porky. He went uncredited,

obviously, but... I'm just trying to see if this

was his very first... What year did I say I'd

come out? 96? No, he must have been doing...

He might have been doing Porky before then, but

I don't think so. I don't know. But yeah, no,

Superior Duck is an amazing short, because...

It it basically takes Daffy Duck and Superman

and Combines the two but thorough Ravenscroft

can never get the the saying right so they have

to stop and start stop and start It's have you

have you never saw I've never seen this Really

really man you'll you'll have to look for it

because it is hilarious Daffy's voice is a little

off -putting because it's not metal. But other

than that, it's simply amazing. It really, really

is. Alright, anything else on his Looney Tunes

stuff? Not that I can think of. Okay. We're going

to take a quick break and we're going to come

back and talk about the Tom and Jerry days of

Chuck Jones and Sib Tower 12 productions. We'll

be back. You're despicable. Alright folks, we

are back and it is time to talk about Chuck Jones

and his own production company, Sib Tower 12

Productions. Because Chuck Jones, after that

horrible, horrible era that we will not talk

about, happened for Tom and Jerry. It was given

to Jones and it was back in Hollywood, USA. You

can always tell when... The cartoons are being

made in Hollywood because on them they say a

Hollywood USA the other ones with no voices crappy

sound effects and I Said no voice and crappy

sound effects. I mean granted. Let's face it

Tom and Jerry have really never had a voice except

in that movie that happened, but But honestly

for me the Jones era of Tom and Jerry is the

best era it's The best when you compare it to

the era that shall not be mentioned I think the

guy did a serviceable job. He did better than

filmation did well Yeah, okay, I'll give you

that it you know the Deutsch era is is is roses

compared to the filmation era, but comparing

the gene -deich stuff to Hannah Barbera and Chuck

Jones. It's no contest. Do you remember when

you first saw any of these Chuck Jones, Tom and

Jerry stuff? Had to be the very early 80s. Like

I said in another show, what they used to do

with the Tom and Jerry packages is they would

cut the beginnings and ends off for the syndication

package around here. I don't know if that was

how it was in Uriaria, but We never knew who

was doing the cartoon, so I could kind of tell

that there was a difference between the Chuck

Jones stuff and the Hanna Barbera stuff, but

I couldn't really put my finger on it. Plus,

it's later Chuck Jones, so it's a lot more evolved

than what the Looney Tunes stuff was. So I didn't

even connect that it was the same guy as the

guy who was doing that. So I never really knew

that it was him until much later. Obviously the

easiest way you can tell is that the characters

are a little bit different in design. Their colors

are extremely different. Yeah, Tom's face had

heavy eyebrows. I think it was like Boris Karloff

eyebrows. I don't know if that's the right actor

I'm thinking of. During the Hannah Barbera stuff,

Tom always had like a lighter splash of gray

between his eyeballs and that was gone. for the

Chuck Jones stuff. That's like the easiest way

for me to tell the difference is that. My favorite

one out of all of these is, out of all the Chuck

Jones ones is Haunted Mouse. Haunted Mouse is

the one where Jerry's magician friend, possibly

cousin, drops by, levitating Tom. Later when

Jerry is preparing dinner, Tom accidentally grabs

the magician who hypnotizes him. While Tom is

under, the magician basically goes inside his

stomach and frees everybody. And the sound effects

in this are so well done. It's just so awesome.

And so he goes into his stomach and he then,

you know, frees all the birds and the mice and

whatever else and comes back out and gets back

into Tom's hand and unhypnotizes him and Tom

just looks at him and freaks. I remember it was

like, it was like he was, he was opening the

cell doors and you're all just clanking and clattering.

Yeah, it was hilarious. This is absolutely hilarious.

You know It's it's one of those ones that was

just absolutely amazing It really really was

another one I'm trying to think here cuz they're

like penthouse mouse from 63. That was awesome

The cat above and the mouse below That one was

good. SnowBuddy loves me from 64. That one was

good. I think it's the unshrinkable Jerry Mouse.

One of these has Tom making, and I could be,

I might be thinking of one of the Hanna Barbera

ones, but one of them has Tom making that evil

potion to give to Jerry. And it makes him strong

and muscular and basically turns him into Jerry's

cousin's cousin muscles uh... for about five

seconds uh... you know I remember when this DVD

set came out back in June 23rd let's see here

I'm trying to see here if it says... It was a

few years ago. It was a two disc set. I remember

when I got this DVD set, the Chuck Jones collection

for Tom and Jerry. As soon as I got it, I popped

it in, watched the first disc, took that out,

watched the second disc. I was laughing so hard.

All that day. I just love Chuck doing these because

it really feels like, because he had Mel there,

because Mel was doing the vocal effects for at

least Tom or Jerry. Both of them for sure. And

just thinking that Mel blank was a vocal effect

or a quote unquote voice of Tom and Jerry. along

with everything else that he's done. It's just

simply amazing. Did you have a favorite from

the Chuck Jones era here from Tom and Jerry?

I'm really having a hard time thinking because

to me his Tom and Jerry cartoons kind of blend

together. I mean, they're all really funny. The

one cartoon he did for MGM that's completely

apart from them is called The Dot and the Line,

which is the one where it's... It's the line

that falls in love with the dot, but the dot's

really into this other squiggly line, and the

end of it is that the line learns to be more

abstract, and he does so in ways that the squiggle

could never be. It's a really bizarre cartoon,

but it's really creative as well. I don't think

it has any backgrounds in it. I think it's all

just a white backdrop, and they let all the...

Yeah, they let all the animation really shine

in that one Yeah, very awesome, that's always

the one that stands out for me Yeah Yeah, I mean

for me it probably has to be the Oh God I just

mentioned it you know like I said haunted mouse

I believe it's penthouse mouse that has the two

of them running across the top of the penthouse

and that they both end up at a construction site

going through all that. I believe at one point

in that cartoon Tom actually gets pounded by

the pile driver thing. He comes out looking like

an accordion. Right. So I just absolutely love

that. you don't see like when they did other

Looney Tunes stuff after Chuck passed away and

don't get me wrong folks like I said you know

there are other directors that everybody loves

and other directors that we love but like for

me right now Chuck Jones was and forever will

be the best out of them all personally you don't

see Chuck Jones animation anymore No. I mean,

sure, you had Looney Tunes back in action in

2003, but like... It was an attempt. It was an

attempt, yes. I would say that Tiny Tunes is,

I mean, I believe he was still alive during the

Tiny Tunes era. It was a bit of an attempt to

amalgamate all of them. Between clamp it and

and frizz and McKimson and Jones and all those

guys Tom Ruger's team really kind of came up

with their own style after a while True, and

well, yeah people like Glenn Kennedy whose style

just over saturated everything else You said

Glenn and I was like wait, we're a comedy worked

on that series. Holy crap. No, thank God Everyone

would have flat fingers You did have them attempting

to do something different with the Looney Tunes

with lunatics unleashed which no one should ever

Talk about I know I know I'm sorry putting it

nice. I I'm well We'll have an episode about

that and the twenty eleven should what did you

think of them doing the the new show i don't

even think it's still on now it's on but i don't

think they're doing new episodes the looney toons

show what did you think of that it's you know

it's interesting i know why it exists but it's

not really something in a that's for me i don't

really i don't like go for that style looney

tunes like it's like okay uh... week My stance

has always been that the animators and the directors

are the stars and Looney Tunes are just kind

of like, they're more like sock puppets for those

people. It's like, really, it was Chuck Jones'

sense of humor that made those cartoons wonderful.

And when I see Bugs Bunny in a newer cartoon,

I'm just like, it's not going to be the same.

And I never find newer cartoons as funny as the

old stuff. I'd rather watch someone like Tom

Ruger who'd come up with new stuff with Freakazoid.

Yeah, well apparently and again take this with

a grain of salt because it's Wikipedia, but Let's

see it is produced by obviously I want to really

generation July 29th last year producer Tony

Cervone Confirmed that the series will not be

renewed for the third season, so it only got

two seasons It got 52 episodes I liked it. I

thought it was interesting. I think what probably

put me off was all of the ways that they worked

in the other Looney Tunes and the weird music

videos and like the Marvin the Martian thing.

That was just weird. And why is it that the show

itself has to be 2D, but the Roadrunner cartoons

are 3D? That makes no sense. That would just

drive me crazy. Yeah. yeah I mean like I said

I enjoyed it for what it was I thought it was

interesting I love that they actually brought

attention to this because we live in such a day

and age now where everything has to be politically

correct and I think it was one of the first episodes

where Bugs actually goes to jail and he wants

to actually stay in jail Porky and Daffy come

to well no Porky has to come bail him and Daffy

out. And the guards ask him, where are your pants,

son? Oh, they're in the car. Like they actively

make a joke out of the fact that Porky Pig should

be wearing pants at all times, and he doesn't.

But yeah, I'm interested to see what Warner Brothers

comes up with in the future, whether it be movies

or cartoon series or whatever, but. Nothing will

ever equal the genius of Chuck Jones and Mike

Maltese and their entire entire crew I didn't

want to bring up one of the thing here before

we go away. This isn't This isn't done by Jones,

but I think it's it very much has his style to

it You remember blooper bunny blooper bunny is

that the one where it's like the It's like an

anniversary cartoon, and they keep shooting up

stuff. 51st and a half anniversary. June 13th,

1997. It was directed by Greg Ford and Terry

Lennon. The voices were done by Jeff Bergman

and Gordon Hunt. Music by George Daughtry. Absolutely.

This is the one where... This is the one where

Elmer fires the real gun as opposed to his cartoon

gun. Which actually grazes Daffy's head. Bugs

scolds him and Elmer responds that he thought

Ed would be a great big birthday surprise if

he finally shot Bugs after 51 and a half years

of twying. Daffy starts yelling at Elmer for

not using the prop gun and neglects Bugs' insistence

on cutting. He then walks away as he tells Elmer

to expect his lawyers to call him and gets struck

in the face by the loose board Bugs had avoided

earlier. with the board going through his beacon

bugs ask if they can cut now daffy says you smug

son of a and then it it comes to a deep this

this cartoon here is it very much is a collaboration

it's very much much a mixture of all the directors

but i really feel like this is something chuck

jones would actually laugh at He might have even

seen this because this was before his death.

Oh, yeah It was quite a number of years before

he actually died. So yeah, I mean he passed away

in 2002 But you know every time I see that cartoon

Absolutely, I equal the ending to that cartoon

to what Clark Griswold did in Christmas vacation

because the Yosemite Sam rant It's just human

nature that hates rabbits. Yeah, corn siren,

itch it, rabbit. And then, of course, bugs in

the varianas, like, eh, maybe we can fix it in

the editing. And poor Elmer. When we first see

him, he's trying to do his hair tonic thing,

and he says, ah, the minoxidil method. And I'm

like, oh, god. God. Oh, it's so hilarious. I

love that one. But like I said, Chuck Jones,

a man well beyond his years as far as animation

goes. People that are listening to this, you

have to not have a soul to enjoy his work when

it comes to Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry. you

have to not have a soul yeah if you don't if

you don't someone who doesn't enjoy this stuff

does not have a soul okay because you said it

like you said it the opposite way you'll hear

you'll hear it in the editing yeah no we'll fix

it in the editing yeah I love Daffy's line in

that. No, don't cut. I want to be known to the

world while I give this two -bit Nimrod a severe

dressing down. God, so hilarious. Alright folks,

so here's the deal Tooncast Beyond is coming

back in full force in 2015 we have a plan It's

going to be a variety of different episodes with

a variety of different hosts We're gonna kick

it off with episode 58. I don't know when this

is gonna happen. We have to produce a lot of

these first I'm not sure exactly when it's gonna

happen, but episode 58 is gonna be Disney's frozen

cuz i want to get that out of the way uh... episode

sixty is going to be gargoyles uh... epa so this

see episodes seventy -five is going to be dino

saucers uh... ever since sixty nine's gonna be

celebrity deathmatch uh... appropriate uh...

it all right We are going to have a very short

discussion in episode 68 6 for the Ewoks cartoon

I cannot remember the name of the damn thing

for the life of me It's Ewoks of Endor II. I

don't know. I thought it was just the Ewoks cartoon.

Okay. Well, we'll go with that But yeah, it's

we are gonna have an episode that does discuss

Lunatics Unleashed and the Looney Tunes show.

Kind of like a compare and contrast and which

one is better. You put those two shows side by

side and a giant greater than sign will descend

from the heavens and point the larger end toward

the Looney Tunes show. I bet. But that's not

all. Even though right now I have a list of episodes

75, I actually have a list longer than that.

I don't want to give everything away, but we

are going to have a bunch of stuff this year,

which will all culminate into the first annual

Tooncast Beyond 25 Days of Christmas. That's

right. From December 1st to December 25th, 2015,

we're going to give you one episode per day.

Talking about various Christmas cartoons from

various franchises I'm trying to like just for

an example. I don't know what episode number

this is or anything like that There was a Johnny

Bravo Christmas special there was a Kim Possible

Christmas special there was You know, there's

the Mickey Mouse Christmas specials there's At

the end of year at the end of the first year

of 25 days of Christmas, we're gonna actually

go back and discuss Grandma got run over by a

reindeer. Oh boy Charlie Brown Christmas God

you think I it's Christmas sure You think I'd

freaking know what the hell the name of the damn

thing is, you know what I'm talking about. I

know the Charlie Brown Christmas special uh...

the uh... ralph uh... the real ralph the red

-nosed reindeer uh... cuz we have to actually

uh... makes it the week of july before we can

do ralph and frosty in july so uh... uh... we

will be doing frosty the snowman with jimmy geranti

the good one not the one with john goodman which

is later also in my mind does not exist uh...

so we got a lot of things twenty fifteen is going

to be the year to cast me on folks i don't know

how far open the episode numbers were to get

i have a plan uh... for weekly contents that

will start most likely middle of march potentially

so i hope everyone has enjoyed the animation

direction spotlight this just a blast with you

talking about these cartoons you have any final

thoughts for listeners mister neil nothing at

the time now Alright, well, I guess we'll, um...

We'll let Porky, um, blooper his way through,

uh... Uh, th -th -th -th -that's all, folks.

So we will catch ya in mid -March with episode

58, all about Disney's Frozen. To the vector

goes the spoils. Duck season. Wabbit season.

Duck season. Wabbit season. Duck season. Wabbit

season. Wabbit season. Duck season. Wabbit season.

I say it's duck season, and I say fire. And action.

That's all, folks. Cut. Porky, could we just

get a little bit of the stutter? Just a little

bit of the stutter. That would be great. Yes,

of course. Silly me. Not a problem. Ready? Quiet.

Ready and action. That's all, folks. Darn it.

Did it again, didn't I? You wanted the stutter.

Sorry, guys. Perfectly all right. Still rolling.

And action. That's all, folks. You're sounding

great, poor. We'll get there. You got the stutter.

Tell you what, could we get the stutter on the

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